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Trump: China stole our trade secrets - we will hit fees

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The President of the United States decided to introduce additional duties for Chinese goods entering the United States market. According to Trump, the current situation strikes at the American manufacturer and leads to a decrease in the number of jobs for American citizens.


Trump said the following:
This can not continue further.


Newspaper The Washington Post With reference to sources in the presidential administration, reports that by the end of this week, Washington will impose duties on a number of Chinese goods. In this case, the total amount of "anti-Chinese" duties will be about 60 billion dollars.

It is noteworthy that initially Trump advisers and other members of the administration proposed measures to increase duties totaling about $ 30 billion. However, the US president ordered to double this value.

Trump: China stole our trade secrets - we will hit fees


In Washington, the following argument is cited as an excuse for imposing additional duties on nearly hundreds of Chinese goods: China allegedly stole information constituting a commercial secret from the United States and, taking advantage of it, began to produce and promote its products to the American market.

In the Chinese media, meanwhile, reminded the United States that China is the largest holder of US debt.
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 20 March 2018 06: 17
    +3
    With Chinese goods, everything is littered in the US and other countries, so this will specifically hit their business. Again, China may begin to demand a return of debt, and it is the largest whom the Americans owe.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 20 March 2018 06: 25
      +13
      The trade war will hit both countries, and the third will go to it. Beijing has something to answer - after all, one of the main holders of American securities.
      The states themselves are pushing China and the Russian Federation towards each other. It will be more profitable for us if the Chinese do not invest in the States, but invest in our economies. hi
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 20 March 2018 09: 48
        +3
        Quote: Kasym
        The trade war will hit both countries, and the third will go to it. Beijing has something to answer - after all, one of the main holders of American securities.

        The founders and propagandists of the WTO in the USA, taking advantage of leading positions in the field of economics and technology, imposed for themselves a world trade model and, predictably, as a result of unceasing competition for even a minute, the time has come when the USA itself began to suffer from its own laws, an interesting trend began to be observed, the United States began to apply protectionist measures, which fundamentally contradicts WTO rules, but in fact shows that the US economy has become uncompetitive and is moving into a new lower role, so gradually, the economic hegemony of the United States disappears and they no longer have leverage that could stop this trend.
        Quote: Kasym
        It will be more profitable for us if the Chinese do not invest in the States, but invest in our economies.

        Under the laws of the global economy, the Chinese have no other choice, as long as the United States rebuilds and protects its domestic markets, including from Chinese goods, China will be forced to redirect flows and seize global and not only commodity, but also higher order investment that were previously traditionally American.
        Something tells us that smart people in Russia predicted this a long time ago and it was precisely on this understanding that an economic development strategy was actually being built. Being over the battle, controlling resources and getting bonuses in the form of cheap technologies and goods, nor spending a lot of effort on it ...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 20 March 2018 10: 01
          +3
          "To be above the battle, controlling resources and getting bonuses in the form of cheap technologies and goods, nor spending a lot of effort on this" ///

          This is briefly called: raw materials appendage.
          1. teron
            teron 20 March 2018 10: 46
            0
            Like Sweden during the 2nd World War?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 20 March 2018 10: 52
              +1
              Now there is no military action. Only
              tension called the cold war. So the comparison is inappropriate.
              During real ("hot") wars, any country has the right
              observe neutrality.
              If war breaks out between the US and China, Russia may
              take a neutral position. Can do the same
              China during the war between Russia and the United States. And so - in any combination.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 20 March 2018 10: 56
                0
                For once agrees ..... laughing
                Only today, the difference between the “hot” and “cold” phases was leveled to a minimum - if you want, it's hard to make out. This is not in the Middle Ages - "I'm Going to You" with a long exchange of letters and accusations.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 20 March 2018 11: 05
                  +2
                  "Only today, the difference between the" hot "and" cold "phases leveled to a minimum" ///

                  Exactly the opposite: now - bangs so bangs! There used to be a distant "hot" front and a safe rear. Now everything will break out (physically - by fires on the ruins) at the same time. With millions killed in the early days. sad
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 20 March 2018 11: 07
                    0
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Exactly the opposite: now - bangs so bangs!

                    I did not mean the depth of the theater of war, but that time gap between the cause and the decision to press the red button.
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 20 March 2018 11: 18
                      +4
                      So far, Russia and the United States, although sharing threats,
                      but strictly abide by the strategic arms reduction treaty.
                      And other international treaties. And in Syria, cooperation between the military is excellent.
                      Nobody wants to die. Neither American millionaires, nor Russian.
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 20 March 2018 11: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        And in Syria, cooperation between the military is excellent.
                        Nobody wants to die. Neither American millionaires, nor Russian.

                        Thank you .... you, in the "stalls" is clearly more visible.
                        hi
                      2. SPACE
                        SPACE 20 March 2018 12: 41
                        0
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        Nobody wants to die. Neither American millionaires, nor Russian.

                        Of course, no one wants and does not need, peace is our goal. And the goal of the Chinese is to put the exceptional exactly on the ass and in the general row.
          2. DMB_95
            DMB_95 20 March 2018 11: 33
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            "To be above the battle, controlling resources and getting bonuses in the form of cheap technologies and goods, nor spending a lot of effort on this" ///

            This is briefly called:raw materials appendage.

            This is the name of Russia for states that themselves are constantly someone’s appendage. Only without raw materials.
          3. SPACE
            SPACE 20 March 2018 12: 29
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            This is briefly called: raw materials appendage.

            It doesn’t matter, it’s not important three times if we are talking about Russia, which, having unlimited resources, is the only country that alone possesses all kinds of sophisticated technologies.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 20 March 2018 12: 36
              +1
              The most complicated ones are in mobile phones. wink
              1. SPACE
                SPACE 20 March 2018 12: 53
                +1
                Quote: voyaka uh
                The most difficult - in mobile phones

                Well, maybe for you they are complicated, for me, it’s of medium complexity for household consumer goods, the mass production technology of which will be available to everyone very soon. Another thing is a nuclear reactor or a rocket engine.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 20 March 2018 13: 11
                  0
                  Reactors and rocket engines are cool, but not everyone needs them.
                  You can own unique technology ... typewriters
                  or mechanical arithmometers. But why?
                  And everyone needs mobile phones.
                  1. SPACE
                    SPACE 20 March 2018 14: 46
                    +3
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    And everyone needs mobile phones.

                    And everyone needs vitamins, vegetables and fruits.
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    Reactors and rocket engines are cool, but not everyone needs them.

                    For that, everyone wants to recharge their cell phones and fly fast on an airplane.
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 20 March 2018 15: 29
                      +1
                      Okay! Vitamins and fruits You convinced me and defeated me. drinks
                      I’ll go have some fresh fruit juice. fellow
    2. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 20 March 2018 06: 42
      +9
      Quote: Spartanez300
      With Chinese goods, everything is littered in the US and other countries, so this will specifically hit their business. Again, China may begin to demand a return of debt, and it is the largest whom the Americans owe.

      Everything is much more complicated here. Yes, - restricting price competitiveness in the US market will hit the sales volume of Chinese goods. However, I have no doubt that the Chinese are pushing most of this volume with good discounts to other markets. Debt recovery is currently not profitable for China, because the return is made not in gold, but in dollar wrappers, albeit non-cash. The United States will need to repay the debt to increase the money supply in circulation by this amount, because I doubt that they will find this out of their budget, which means that it will be an inflationary money supply. This will lead to a depreciation of the dollar and an increase in the competitiveness of goods produced and sold for dollars compared to Chinese, as yuan to the dollar will jump sharply. Although in the USA this will also have a negative effect, so China’s response will be completely different.
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 20 March 2018 10: 06
        +2
        Quote: Alex-a832
        Debt recovery is currently not profitable for China, because the return is made not in gold, but in dollar wrappers, albeit non-cash. The United States will need to repay the debt to increase the money supply in circulation by this amount, because I doubt that they will find it out of their budget, which means that it will be an inflationary money supply .................. Therefore, China's response will be completely different.

        Yes, and this other answer, especially in the long run, may turn out to be much worse for the US than the requirement to repay the debt. In addition, more recently, Trump announced an increase in duties on goods from Europe and the Europeans, although they are protesting, but for now they are habitually suffering. And China is not Europe.
    3. Simargl
      Simargl 20 March 2018 08: 29
      +1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      Again, China may begin to demand a return of debt
      GyGymon can throw everyone and depreciate the currency.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 20 March 2018 10: 44
        +1
        Quote: Simargl
        GyGymon can throw everyone and depreciate the currency.

        Or introduce a new one ... with the possibility of sharing at a fun rate ...
    4. 23424636
      23424636 20 March 2018 11: 40
      0
      the Chinese will quickly orient themselves and buy out American assets, deliver their contingent there and establish production using their technologies. A nephew in Kaluga works on a Chinese glass-work always work shaft.
    5. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 20 March 2018 17: 43
      0
      Again, China may begin to demand a return of debt

      Can not
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 March 2018 06: 23
    +4
    Trump: China has stolen our trade secrets

    Do not open the mittens. laughing And the Chinese would not have been Chinese if they had not slammed someone who benefits them.
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 20 March 2018 06: 27
    +3
    The United States will simply forgive themselves all their debts, and the Chinese will be left with worthless pieces of paper.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 20 March 2018 06: 43
      +1
      There are possible answers: for example, to nationalize all the factories of American corporations located in China.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 20 March 2018 08: 33
        +3
        Quote: Metallurg_2
        to nationalize all the factories of American corporations located in China.
        So, what is next? After 5, maximum 10 years, they will become obsolete.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 20 March 2018 10: 48
          +2
          Quote: Simargl
          So, what is next? After 5, maximum 10 years, they will become obsolete.

          Not a fact. Now the Chinese are not the same as 15-20 years ago. No wonder their hundreds of thousands studied in the USA ...
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 20 March 2018 08: 48
      0
      Herculesic (Vitalevich) hi
      The United States will simply forgive themselves all their debts, and the Chinese will be left with worthless pieces of paper.
      Not so simple in this life.Money is such a thing because of which they kill. Literally.The Americans understand this. And they understand what they want. They came up with the rules of the game and implemented their Bucks project. Now that others have accepted the rules of the game. And they started to beat them. Any wiggling of them will be reflected in their health.
  4. Fedorov
    Fedorov 20 March 2018 06: 28
    0
    In the Chinese media, meanwhile, reminded the United States that China is the largest holder of US debt.

    Well, to sense .. request 3 percent per year. And if you throw all this stuff on the exchange, Russia will still connect. ? Kapets global economy. I will not envy China and the USA. Russia escapes with fear. Although, as Putin said, nothing personal. Probably he is happy to drive billions into green pieces of public debt .. I hope he knows what he’s doing.
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 20 March 2018 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      Well, what's the point


      Sarah and Abram went to bed. Abram does not sleep, sighs, tossing and turning ... Sarah:
      - Why you do not sleep?
      - Yes, I owe Moishe a hundred rubles, so I’m thinking how I will give ...
      Sarah gets up, opens the window and shouts "Moishe, Moishe!"
      The window opposite opens and Moishe asks: “What do you need, Sarah?”
      “Does Abram owe you a hundred rubles?”
      - Yes!
      - So, he won’t give them to you !!!
      He closes the window and says: “Sleep, Abram, now let Moishe not sleep!”
    2. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 20 March 2018 17: 53
      0
      3 percent per year

      This is more than the Russian economy grew in two years)))
  5. Turgon
    Turgon 20 March 2018 06: 29
    +1
    China is made clear that it would not support Russia in a possible near clash with NATO. Now the PRC is thinking what to do.
  6. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 20 March 2018 06: 35
    +11
    The trade war with China is yet to come, but Trump did not want to congratulate V. Putin on his election, this is not good, there should still be a frame of decency.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 20 March 2018 06: 45
      +4
      He just wants to prove to the authors of the investigation about interference in the elections that he is not an agent of Putin laughing
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 March 2018 06: 40
    +2
    we will hit duties
    Such a thing as a sense of proportion in Trump is completely absent. Well, he really wants to blackmail China already can not eat. But what can this turn out to be for the US economy, which is strongly tied to China?
  8. Tarasve
    Tarasve 20 March 2018 06: 44
    0
    As they say, we will see what happens next. What China will answer is decent money, even for them.
    1. vitinka
      vitinka 20 March 2018 06: 57
      0
      God forbid, live in an interesting time, but many more interesting
  9. Petr1
    Petr1 20 March 2018 06: 53
    0
    Yes, the Chinese will rub off, say thank you a big trump, give us a cup of rice and that's enough for us.
  10. Nix1986
    Nix1986 20 March 2018 07: 03
    +2
    The United States and China are tied with trade and economic ties more than with all other countries, and these sanctions look like a wife’s abandonment of a bed in a prosperous family. Probably the reason is that the model in the US economy has changed - in the USA, workers are engaged in research and administrative functions, China's production site and staff are all cheap, as a result, the USA receives cheap Chinese FMSG products, which is one of the pillars of American prosperity. Now, China itself can be in R&D and administration and this is a problem.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 20 March 2018 07: 08
    +1
    Not everything is so clear ... If China begins to sell "traders" in large volumes - this will cause a collapse in their prices. What will allow the United States to buy them from the market at a reduced price wassat
    The press is THERE! When you have a printing press, you can afford a lot.
    But in any case, the United States alone cannot win the trade war with China ...
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 20 March 2018 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But in any case, the United States alone cannot win the trade war with China ..

      But do we need China to win? We need them both to weaken, and ideally fall apart.
      1. assa67
        assa67 20 March 2018 11: 34
        +2
        Sergey, welcome hi Russia doesn’t need a weak China either. We’ll build the Power of Siberia, put it on a gas needle ... and there we’ll see .. The SC has been elected for life. And he respects Russia ...
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 20 March 2018 11: 56
          +1
          hi I would just like to be safer than the poor and evil China, aimed at the offender by a wise party ..
          Quote: assa67
          SC elected for life. And he respects Russia ...

          I don’t really trust the whole cunning east. Let the Crimea be recognized first. Such allies should always be kept in sight. It is very good that they are cut off from us by Kazakhstan, Mongolia, the desert and the mountains ...
          In any case, in the future, the Chinese issue will have to be solved. The Americans have begun. Here let them butt, weakening each other. Well, we will support the Chinese ... morally.
          If a powerful and modern Chinese army is created against the Americans, it will also be extremely dangerous to us. Who will guarantee that the United States and China do not make friends in the future and attack us allied?
          1. assa67
            assa67 20 March 2018 12: 37
            +2
            East is a delicate matter ... lose face for them, what for Russian to send to x .....
            Quote: Barkhan
            Who will guarantee that the USA and China in the future will not make friends with us and will not strike together?
            Reply Quote Complaint

            do not make friends ......... despise
  12. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 March 2018 07: 25
    +1
    Which thief would like it if something was stolen from him.
  13. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 20 March 2018 07: 37
    0
    Quote: Alex-a832
    Quote: Spartanez300
    With Chinese goods, everything is littered in the US and other countries, so this will specifically hit their business. Again, China may begin to demand a return of debt, and it is the largest whom the Americans owe.

    Everything is much more complicated here. Yes, - restricting price competitiveness in the US market will hit the sales volume of Chinese goods. However, I have no doubt that the Chinese are pushing most of this volume with good discounts to other markets. Debt recovery is currently not profitable for China, because the return is made not in gold, but in dollar wrappers, albeit non-cash. The United States will need to repay the debt to increase the money supply in circulation by this amount, because I doubt that they will find this out of their budget, which means that it will be an inflationary money supply. This will lead to a depreciation of the dollar and an increase in the competitiveness of goods produced and sold for dollars compared to Chinese, as yuan to the dollar will jump sharply. Although in the USA this will also have a negative effect, so China’s response will be completely different.

    But what prevents that in the process of the transaction on the return of public debt to transfer at the final stage wrappers in yellow metal? And there will be no “inflationary” mass of money, only the internal volume of the room in which China’s gold reserve is stored will expand! laughing
    1. Vladislav_2
      Vladislav_2 20 March 2018 09: 06
      +1
      There is not so much real gold on the market 10000 tons, this is ~ 520 billion dollars at the current rate.
  14. You Vlad
    You Vlad 20 March 2018 07: 37
    0
    And the Chinese found their newcomer yes
  15. sgr291158
    sgr291158 20 March 2018 07: 43
    0
    Kakosy work tirelessly. It is necessary to sit and constantly compose sanctions.
  16. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 20 March 2018 07: 47
    +2
    The Americans handed shovels to the Chinese, because the Chinese are digging cheaper and faster. And now they suddenly declared that the Chinese had stolen these shovels ... Are they completely holding global business for naive fools, or was Zadornov a priori right?
  17. Evil 55
    Evil 55 20 March 2018 07: 56
    +1
    So, it's time for the Chinese to present checks for payment .. Enough with the Americans to clatter around the world ..
  18. bald
    bald 20 March 2018 08: 02
    0
    Let goat (s) into the garden. wink One hell will eat the whole cabbage.
  19. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 20 March 2018 08: 16
    +2
    Themselves moved their production to China, and now they behave like the last gopnik.
    If I were an American, I would be ashamed of such a coarse government behavior
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 20 March 2018 08: 22
    0
    Brave claim! "Rusty belt" like however! I wonder what Comrade C will say?
  21. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 March 2018 09: 03
    0
    Trampnash. laughing Maybe the Chinese will be more accommodating with us.
  22. tap
    tap 20 March 2018 09: 13
    0
    So China stole something from Russia ... But we do not care ... Do we still have islands for a present?
    1. KonoGon
      KonoGon 20 March 2018 11: 10
      0
      Quote: zapfen
      Do we still have islands for a present?
      Islands? Next in line is Baikal. Follow the news.
  23. Babur_Imperat
    Babur_Imperat 20 March 2018 09: 57
    0
    Pahan dissatisfied fellow
  24. Dormidont
    Dormidont 20 March 2018 10: 53
    0
    I’ll sell the goat to enemies, so that the children wouldn’t drink milk ...
  25. naidas
    naidas 20 March 2018 12: 10
    0
    I wonder what the Chinese say with US citizenship (5 million)?
  26. tank66
    tank66 20 March 2018 14: 13
    0
    It is encouraging in the situation that the patly god’s blight again confirms the fact of his belonging to the vaisya caste / merchants, usurers, etc. This is not a warrior.His destiny is scam. As in the case of Gaddafi, which he is proud of:
    "... the events of 2009, when Gaddafi was supposed to speak at the 64th session of the UN General Assembly and his assistants were looking for a place where the Bedouin tent could be pitched for the Libyan leader. After the authorities denied them the right to install it in New York Central Park, as well as northern Manhattan and Englewood (New Jersey), Libyan representatives tried to negotiate with Trump, who owned a piece of land in the vicinity of Bedford (New York). The city authorities opposed and threatened Trump "However, the tent was erected, but Gaddafi never used it."
    “He paid me one night more than this site brings in a year or two. And then I did not let him use this site. That’s what we should do.” Donald Trump
  27. amr
    amr 21 March 2018 10: 27
    0
    Quote: Spartanez300
    With Chinese goods, everything is littered in the US and other countries, so this will specifically hit their business. Again, China may begin to demand a return of debt, and it is the largest whom the Americans owe.

    Do not tell my slippers))). start demanding a return of debt ..... this is from which series of the Simpsons ??