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During exercises in the Central Military District, specialists of the RCB troops hid the plant with the help of thermal smoke machines.

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In the Samara region, special tactical exercises of the radiation, chemical and biological (RCB) forces of the Central Military District (CVO) were held, during which nine of the latest KamAZ-based TDA-3 thermo-smoke machines were used to disguise the conditional plant from the "enemy" ", the press service of the district


During exercises in the Central Military District, specialists of the RCB troops hid the plant with the help of thermal smoke machines.


Specialists of radiation, chemical and biological protection of the Central Military District used the latest tactical smoke machines TDA-3 on the basis of KamAZ at the tactical and special exercises near Samara for aerosol masking of the plant from aviation conditional adversary
- the report says.

It is noted that with the help of thermal smoke machines, which entered the units of the second combined arms army at the end of 2017, a continuous aerosol curtain was created on an area of ​​six thousand square meters, with the result that the object remained inaccessible for about one hour for visual reconnaissance and missile guidance systems aviation conditional enemy.

The exercises were held at the Chapayevsky training ground as part of the final stage of the monthly camp gathering of RCB protection troops of the Central Military District, in which more than 1,5 thousands of servicemen take part, more than 400 units of equipment are involved, the report says.


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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 19 March 2018 18: 19
    +2
    Is it special or something like that about the smoke picked up?
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 19 March 2018 18: 21
      +1
      Let them practice, and let the Ukrainians fumigate their Birch.
  2. Tersky
    Tersky 19 March 2018 18: 21
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    We used nine of the latest TDA-3 thermal smoke machines based on KamAZ for aerosol masking of a factory from conditional enemy aircraft
    Not guys No. , disgusting your disguise, learn from a country of neighboring nationality, in the leading news on VO The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine purchased a mixture for fumigating trees instead of smoke screens they completely free of charge share their experience in acquiring and using the "right" smoke screens. yes
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 19 March 2018 20: 08
      +3
      Quote: Tersky
      they completely free of charge share their experience in acquiring and using the "right" smoke screens

      Well, how free ... They poured 72 million hryvnia to share the "experience". wassat laughing
  3. Falcond
    Falcond 19 March 2018 18: 25
    +1
    A curtain of 6000 square meters is a square of 77 by 77 meters approximately !!! What kind of plant is this ????
    "Conditional";)
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 19 March 2018 18: 30
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      Quote: FalconD
      What kind of plant is this ????

      Conditional.)))
    2. Megamarcel
      Megamarcel 19 March 2018 18: 59
      -1
      The mountain gave birth to a mouse ... The main headline is beautiful. Hid the factory.)
    3. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 19 March 2018 19: 21
      +1
      Who needs smoke around a stationary object when its coordinates are?
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 19 March 2018 20: 47
        +1
        The coordinates along which the weapon is guided under certain conditions can be shifted .. this time.
        A cruise missile, Tamagawk, for example, at the final stage of flight optically evaluates the object of impact, raising the trajectory ... so the chances of missing or getting not so accurately increases with the consumption of ammunition ... these are two. In Iraq, there were cases when pilots refused to use weapons, because they were not seen in the optical spectrum ...
        Well, we must understand that these funds are effective in combination with other types of disguise ... these are three.
        Another question is what kind of forces and means do the military have to use these smokes ... I think that it is miserable ... that's why they smoke only "conditional" plants 70/70 meters ..., and something more worthwhile - into a puddle sit down.
    4. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 19 March 2018 19: 45
      +6
      Quote: FalconD
      A curtain in 6000 square meters is a square 77 on 77 meters approximately !!! What kind of plant is this ????

      I have a metal fabrication workshop in my company. True, I don’t call it a factory, I always say “workshop”, but more than 50 people work on an area of ​​86x36 meters (hangar from “sandwiches”). Three welding sites, machines for cutting, bending, chopping, drilling, milling metal - in general, everything you need for the manufacture of almost any metal structure. Plus the outside area is slightly smaller. Such a "cloud" will completely cover.
      By the way, according to modern Lithuanian statistics, Lithuania was an incredibly industrial country before the Soviet "occupation". Because according to today's assessment criteria of that time, an “industrial enterprise” was considered an economy in which at least three hired workers worked and there was a boat motor. laughing So "factory" or not "factory" is how to look ...
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 19 March 2018 19: 59
        +4
        Alexei, people are sitting here who believe that the plant should be no less than the Kirovsky or Volgograd tractor. About VAZ, I am finally silent.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 19 March 2018 20: 23
          +5
          Vyacheslav hi !
          Quote: sabakina
          here are people who believe that the plant should be no less than the Kirovsky or Volgograd tractor. About VAZ, I am finally silent.

          Sometimes a little "cloud" ah! how by the way would it be so easy to roll over one stone after another .... There wasn’t a "cloud", as it somehow cost .....
          And to cover the VAZ - there, three dozen of such cars smoke for a week. Yes, so that this smoke does not settle and does not blow down the wind. Well, I’m far from VAZ.
      2. Falcond
        Falcond 19 March 2018 20: 35
        +1
        Overlap is performed several times .. plus false objects are smoky ... for example, if your object is 300 squares, it smokes in an area of ​​up to 1500 squares .. plus 2-5 false objects ... total for 300 sq.m. smoking area up to +/- 8000 squares ...
    5. Glory1974
      Glory1974 19 March 2018 21: 00
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      A curtain in 6000 square meters is a square 77x77 meters approximately!

      If you calculate differently, it will be 60 acres, 10 suburban areas in 6 acres. This is a different scale. But in principle, I agree with you that there is not much use from such smoke. The plot is small, the time is short, and expensive.
      At one time, they tried to smoke in the Khankala airfield to exclude targeted launches of MANPADS, but there was little sense.
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 19 March 2018 21: 55
        +1
        In Khankala, at one time they tried to smoke the airdrome to exclude targeted launches of MANPADS

        Well, why ... there was no sense ... the vessels visually approaching the landing were not visible, and therefore it was already problematic to aim from MANPADS
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 21 March 2018 10: 04
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          it was a good thing ... the visually approaching ships were not visible

          The militants who shot down several helicopters directly over Khankala did not even know about it. In my opinion, a column of smoke only showed from afar the location of the airfield.
    6. awl
      awl 19 March 2018 21: 41
      0
      Administrative building laughing In general, the filters are turned off at the factories at night, they are not visible together with the city! sad Chelyabinsk is an example of this!
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 19 March 2018 18: 27
    +3
    Well, suppose you masked an object, and so what? Has he become less vulnerable? It seems to me that these smoke systems for the advanced are much more relevant ... In general, there should be systems that impede not only the optical, but also the radar and thermal channels at the same time ...
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 19 March 2018 18: 30
      0
      The main thing is that chemists themselves believe in what they do ...
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 19 March 2018 18: 40
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        Quote: FalconD
        The main thing is that chemists themselves believe in what they do ...

        Yes, I wanted to say something else. I’m not even trying to question the qualifications of the “chemists”. They perfectly understand what and when they will do ... I’m just trying to formulate (as completely uncomplicated) the idea that the cloud of “smoke” should be multi-band, or something ... I don’t know how to formulate correctly ...
    2. svp67
      svp67 19 March 2018 19: 52
      +1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Has he become less vulnerable?

      In light of the special love of our "Western partners" to use strike UAVs, it’s quite.
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      In general, there should be systems that impede not only the optical, but also the radar and thermal channels simultaneously ...

      All this is and is hidden behind the thick clouds of evaporated diesel fuel ... There are means distorting the object in the radar and thermal intelligence channels.
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 20 March 2018 00: 10
        0
        There are means distorting the object in the radar and thermal intelligence channels.

        What are these?
        1. svp67
          svp67 20 March 2018 17: 13
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          Quote: FalconD
          What are these?

          Tell you everything ... Read about aerosol masking and the use of heat traps.
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  7. svp67
    svp67 19 March 2018 19: 48
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    During exercises in the Central Military District, specialists of the RCB troops hid the plant with the help of thermal smoke machines.
    The letter "Z" disappeared from the name of the troops ...Зdefense ...
  8. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 19 March 2018 21: 42
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    Quote: SHURUM -BURUM
    Who needs smoke around a stationary object when its coordinates are?


    The smoke contains metal additives that guarantee masking of the object in the optical, infrared and radar ranges. Not one of the modern missiles will reach the target in such conditions.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 20 March 2018 00: 11
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      Do not carry nonsense, teach the mat.chast !!
  9. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 19 March 2018 21: 52
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    Quote: glory1974
    A curtain in 6000 square meters is a square 77x77 meters approximately!

    If you calculate differently, it will be 60 acres, 10 suburban areas in 6 acres. This is a different scale. But in principle, I agree with you that there is not much use from such smoke. The plot is small, the time is short, and expensive.
    At one time, they tried to smoke in the Khankala airfield to exclude targeted launches of MANPADS, but there was little sense.


    And a lot of turntables were shot down over Khankala, since there was little sense in your words? They always smoked there when take-offs and landings were carried out, and not at one time, as you say.
  10. Palagecha
    Palagecha 19 March 2018 22: 21
    0
    Large-scale ... and progressive ...
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 20 March 2018 00: 13
      0
      Large-scale ... and progressive ...

      You are hopelessly behind the times ....
  11. Beltasir matyagu
    Beltasir matyagu 19 March 2018 23: 37
    0
    Do you see the plant? And I do not see. But he is.
  12. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 26 March 2018 18: 52
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    Quote: FalconD
    Do not carry nonsense, teach the mat.chast !!


    I know her, unlike you, probably