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Footcloths need to be washed every day!

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With all the comparative advantage of tarpaulin boots over boots, they have one important nuance, which I once, many years ago, told war veteran Anatoly Tabakov, now deceased. He had a very interesting frontline biography, the brightest part of which was participation in the liquidation of the UPA in Western Ukraine. He talked a lot and willingly about his life and participation in battles, and once he remembered his boots.
“Tabakov: I went to the army in the 1943 year, after FZO. I just turned 18 years. We were accompanied by the whole village. The old men, who went through the imperialist and civil war, taught us the finer points of the soldiers' life. They taught, for example, how to wear boots properly.

I: How is it right?
Tabakov: You need to have two pairs of sisters, preferably three. Always have a piece of soap with you. And footcloths need to be washed every day from the evening so that in the morning you can put on a clean pair. I have always done this, and I have never had problems with my legs. If you rub your leg, then you need to wash it, and if there is fat, then smear the rubbed area with lard. ”
Interesting things told me a veteran and an ordinary soldier of the Communist Party. It turns out that footcloths should be washed every day, not once a week. Later, having considered and summarized my own experience of wearing boots, I came to the conclusion that he was completely right.

From the theory of nose holes

It all starts with one of the protective functions of the body - the secretion of sebum, synthesized by the sebaceous glands, located throughout the skin, including on the legs. Sebum is mixed with sweat secretions and forms a thin protective layer that does not allow the skin to overdry, and also the antibacterial barrier matters to a certain extent. Increased sebum secretion is observed in people under the age of 30 years, more often in men, as well as under stress, increased physical exertion, temperature increase, with poor hygiene (oily skin should be washed more often). In general, more severe sebum is secreted, so the body is protected from adverse conditions.
Further, this mixture of sebum and sweat is mixed with dust and dirt, which inevitably, albeit in small quantities, get into the shoes. In the composition of dust and dirt there is always a fairly large proportion of solid microparticles. For example, in air dust, the proportion of quartz (the main component of sand) can reach 40% of all solid particles. Solid quartz microparticles, derived from dust, mixing with sebum, form an excellent abrasive paste, which clings to the fibers of the cloth of the footcloths or socks.

Footcloths need to be washed every day!

Here so microscopic particles of quartz from tests of air dust look. Very small and very hard crystals - ready abrasive.

When walking, the shoes are constantly experiencing stress, tension and displacement of fabrics of footcloths or socks. If this fabric is covered with abrasive paste from sebum and quartz microparticles, then these solid particles tear and cut the fibers of the filaments. The combination of cuts and the load on the fabric leads to the fact that the threads eventually break.
In this place it is important to note the difference between a footcloth and a sock. The threads of tissue, of course, are torn and burst in both cases. But the sock is a knitted fabric, or knitted, in which the fabric is formed by loops. That is why it is soft and can stretch. But it is enough to burst a few warp threads or broaches, as this knitted fabric begins to creep away and a hole is formed. The footcloth is made from harsh cotton twill, a fabric with a dense weave of warp and weft. Moreover, twill is woven into a diagonal, which gives it greater resistance to tearing. Therefore, for the thread fabric, the breaking of several threads is not terrible, since the neighboring threads hold the structure of the fabric. For this simple reason, the footcloth is much more durable than a sock; it takes a long time to bring it to the holes.
In addition to the footcloth or sock, the abrasive paste mentioned also plasters the skin of the legs, cramming into its folds and pores. Under the influence of loads while walking, the solid particles begin to tear and destroy the skin epidermis, until they break through it, to the dermis - the skin layer in which nerve endings and blood capillaries pass. There is a wound that begins to bleed and hurt. Through it, bacteria enter the skin and blood that multiply rapidly in moist sebaceous paste. Hence, less than half a step to infection and serious illness.
To avoid this, you need to wash off the abrasive paste from sebum, sweat and solid particles, both from the skin of the feet, and from what the legs are wrapped around. This is the meaning of daily washing of footcloths or socks. The less of this greasy-quartz abrasive on the legs and on the toes or footcloths, the less damage to the skin and the less likelihood of a prolonged failure of the soldiers' legs - this most important means of warfare.

Pocket wash experience

As is often the case, what is easily proclaimed is very difficult to accomplish. Performing such a simple recommendation, such as washing footcloths or socks every day, faces many obstacles, such as the lack of or clearly inadequate access to water and detergents, the extreme lack of time and energy for this work. It is good if the soldier is so disciplined that he takes time from his rest, but is washed. However, it is impossible to issue such an important question as daily washing of footcloths or socks, that is, health and fitness for a march and combat of soldier’s feet, to be given entirely and entirely only to the mercy of personal discipline of servicemen. Appliances should be developed and introduced to facilitate washing to the very minimum of expenditure of energy, time, water and detergents.
Ideally, it should be a very simple device, so affordable that it can be included in the mandatory set of equipment of each soldier. The most interesting thing that such a device is. This is the so-called. "Laundry bag". The idea is not that new, and probably opened several times on its own.


One type of laundry bag in the hands of its inventor, Ashley Newland.

Its essence is to place an erasable item (for example, socks), water and detergent in a bag of sufficient size. Then the bag closes and shakes for a few minutes. After this operation, the dirty water is drained, pure water is poured instead. Again the bag closes and shakes for a few minutes. Finally, the water can be drained, the socks pressed and hung for drying, and the package folded until the next time.
After reading about it, I decided to immediately put the experience and check whether it really is. I found a bag of durable white plastic with a length of 28 cm and a width of 22 cm. It includes 1,6 liters of water, so that the bag can be closed easily onto the linear fastener he had. Socks and about 15 grams of laundry detergent followed.
Package was closed on the clasp. Then I took it by the upper corners and began to shake it. It is most convenient to shake horizontally, side to side, as in this case there is no risk that water will flow out of the bag. After a minute of shaking, the result was obvious: the water turned gray. After about five minutes of shaking, I replaced the water with clean water, shook it up for a couple more minutes to rinse, and soon hung up the washed socks for drying.
What can be noted for this method of washing? First, it is less labor intensive than washing in a basin. Shaking does not burden the muscles of the hands and forearms, and therefore the hands do not get tired. Secondly, the whole operation can be done completely without contact of hands with water and detergents, moreover, practically without smell. Thirdly, the washing does not take any container (basins, buckets, etc.) and does not take sinks washbasins. Since the water from the bag is not spilled, this washing can be done in any room, not necessarily in the bathroom. Fourthly, with this method, water consumption is the lowest. It seems that a pair of socks can be washed in a liter of water, and for a pair of footcloths with a total weight of 320 grams, you will need about one and a half liters.
In general, surprisingly convenient was the way of washing, despite even the improvisation used.

Army washing package

Of course, just a bag of durable polyethylene or plastic is not very suitable for the manufacture of such a washing bag for military needs. It can be used, but its vitality will be relatively low. Polyethylene and other plastics are quickly torn due to frequent tensile deformations that occur when shaking a bag. Let them be small, but if the package is used every day, as it is supposed to be, then soon it will burst and flow.
In my opinion, it is better to make a washing bag of rubberized fabric. It will be somewhat heavier than polyethylene, but you cannot quickly erase it. The chemical resistance of nitrile-butadiene rubber (also known as Buna, one of the most common types of synthetic rubber) is quite enough to make a package of rubberized fabric resistant to alkaline washing solutions.
The bag should have a wide neck, of sufficient size to push through the socks or footcloths through it, but it is hermetically sealed. Tightness is very important. This is the convenience of washing, and the ability to wash outside bathrooms, in any room, and even on the go, on the march. It seems that it is best to use a wide screw cap, used in some types of rubber bags for water. This bag (pictured below) has a neck diameter of approximately 14 cm (with a total width of the bag 18 cm), which is quite enough.



A washing bag with such a tight mouth on the stopper allows you to wash on the march without any effort at all. It is enough to put a dirty thing inside, pour water on it, fill it with washing powder, close it and put it in a backpack. At the next stop, pour out the dirty water, rinse it, and the wash is over.
The weight of such a washing package, depending on the design, volume and material, will be approximately 250-300 grams, which is quite acceptable for inclusion in the mandatory set of personal equipment of each fighter. It can be folded to carry in the pocket of unloading, in a bag or tactical backpack.
Water for washing suits almost any, including from puddles (although it is advisable to give dirty water a little to settle). Any soap is also suitable if it is cleaned, any washing powder or liquid detergent. In the absence of all this, it is possible to wash with the help of good old liquor, which is prepared from wood ash. Lye is convenient not only for ease of manufacture, but also because it can be used in liquid form.


What sprawled? It's time to wash footcloths!

If footcloths can really suffer before washing for a day or two (although on the second day they begin to soak threateningly into folds that can rub a leg badly), then for a sock-shoe army such a washing bag is an absolutely necessary item. Without it, there is a serious risk that such an army in the conditions of war will quickly lose both a sock and a significant part of the fighters who rubbed their feet with dirty and torn socks. An individual washing package - that’s probably the most correct way to name it - is a cheap, simple and very important thing to neglect.
And yes, it is worth noting an important thought, more than once already expressed, that soldiers should be taught hygiene in the same way as personal cleaning is taught. weapon. This idea is absolutely correct, and you can add to it only that you need to equate neglected hygiene with self-harm, with all the ensuing consequences.
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  1. Mihail28
    Mihail28 19 March 2018 15: 17
    +9
    - In this form, I can’t ...
    I have to take a bath, have a cup of coffee ...

    And at the expense of washing everything is much simpler. Enter the laundress into the staff of the rifle department: at the end of the day, it launders all. Accordingly, each compartment should be provided with a bathtub, because without an evening bath / shower it is difficult to imagine the life of a modern person.
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 19 March 2018 18: 01
      +10
      And not only launders ... laughing
    2. kava61
      kava61 20 March 2018 01: 20
      +6
      Laundresses in civilian life, in a war, women will not fight for you.
      1. Jerk
        Jerk 21 March 2018 14: 25
        +1
        Busy: all the horses are stopped)))
  2. the most important
    the most important 19 March 2018 15: 21
    +15
    Complete nonsense ...
    1. mmaxx
      mmaxx 19 March 2018 15: 44
      +11
      To the desert of his Gobi. Wash footcloths every day. There is just a lot of sand. Not every soldier has time to wash his footcloths every day. And to dry .... and where ??
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 19 March 2018 16: 08
        +10
        Quote: mmaxx
        There is just a lot of sand.

        You can always punch in a bag.
        1. Zebus
          Zebus 21 March 2018 16: 53
          +1
          Five points!!! wassat
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 19 March 2018 16: 43
        +9
        Quote: mmaxx
        And to dry .... and where ??

        But this is not a problem at all. At the feet when you sleep.
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 20 March 2018 12: 18
          +1
          By the way, excellent drying on the body (from personal experience), however, if the street is above 0 and you are not really doing anything laughing
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 20 March 2018 15: 33
            +1
            Quote: self-propelled
            By the way, excellent drying on the body

            Almost on the body. At the feet under the sheet. Or between the flap and the sleeping bag itself, also at the feet
      3. dauria
        dauria 19 March 2018 17: 39
        +51
        Not every soldier has time to wash his footcloths every day.


        Well, yes, whining and running abscesses he has time. Especially in the Gobi desert, as you put it, in those parts, every scratch turns into a non-healing purulent wound. It was like that in Afghanistan. And they washed themselves and bedding and clothes. Yes, the officers washed, do not laugh. In winter, it’s even easier - snow is thrown alternately with kerosene into the zinc from under the cartridges, above this “bonfire” there is a 20 liter can from AMG. Here is the laundry.
        For me, nothing was more practical than cadet boots and footcloths. And in the summer their legs do not sweat in them, they are bastards. The only thing is that the hair on the shins is wiped, on the beach you can easily distinguish a warrior from a civilian. laughing
        And the article and the author are a plus.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 20 March 2018 00: 47
          +8
          Quote: dauria
          Especially in the Gobi desert, as you put it, in those parts, every scratch turns into a non-healing purulent wound.

          On Kola, the same garbage, festering "at a time" (and in the summer, to the heap, the infamous midge added ulcers). The main thing was to curb the moment when it begins to rub in order to quickly rewind. Well, at least, there were no problems with the heat, due to the lack thereof. laughing And as for washing ... not always, but regularly dabbled in a samostyre. yes
          1. Senior manager
            Senior manager 24 March 2018 15: 13
            +3
            Quote: Paranoid50
            On Kola the same garbage, festering "at a time"

            In the north, fighters are usually not local, drafted from the middle lane and from the south, so this type of acclimatization was common, plus a lack of vitamins and a lack of sun. Six months later, they became like new. Such an experience.
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 24 March 2018 16: 12
              +2
              Quote: St. Propulsion
              Six months later, they became like new. Such an experience.

              So it was. hi
        2. kava61
          kava61 20 March 2018 01: 22
          +3
          We washed in gasoline, 5 minutes and everything was clean and got rid of the mandate, then the main thing is to rinse, otherwise you will burn.
      4. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 20 March 2018 07: 34
        0
        Well, you choose the hairstyle as much as possible and do it on top of the hill, if even the slightest breeze dries for a moment at all, and even more so in the sun
      5. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 28 March 2018 09: 44
        0
        I just pulled a line there. Once a week it was possible to wash, and nothing - survived. And not a single callus in two years, except in a training session once after a 15-km march-throw happened. And even then because there was no time to rewind the footcloth - the battalion would then be tortured to catch up.
    2. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 19 March 2018 16: 05
      +11
      Quote: the most important
      Complete nonsense ...

      Well, why? It’s still not bad to take a jacuzzi every day - it’s both clean and stress relieved. I remembered life in the fields and smiled.
    3. captain
      captain 19 March 2018 19: 57
      +14
      Quote: the most important
      Complete nonsense ...

      Not just nonsense; schizophrenia. I remember in Afghanistan in the mountains cherished every gram of water. What washing footcloths?
      Quote from the author: “Tabakov: You need to have two pairs of footcloths, preferably three. There should always be a piece of soap with you. And footcloths should be washed every day in the evening so that you can put on a clean pair in the morning. I always did this, and I never "there were problems with the legs. If you rubbed your leg, you need to wash it, and if there is lard, then smear the rubbed place with lard."
      Interesting things were told to me by a veteran and an ordinary soldier of the Communist Party. It turns out that footcloths should be washed every day, and not once a week. "
      I don’t know where his uncle fought, but in the infantry, people didn’t always get into the bathhouse every 10 days, and then wash the footcloths daily. During the week of the offensive in infantry divisions, losses reached 60 percent. People sometimes could not crawl out of the fire of the Germans for days.
      1. kava61
        kava61 20 March 2018 01: 25
        +5
        It was necessary to carry ammunition in the mountains, and also to help the mortar men, they threw away the grub so that it was easier, but here footcloths, soap, bags and still free water. Bullshit couch warriors.
      2. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 20 March 2018 07: 35
        +4
        If only at the headquarters of the division or somewhere in the train .... three pairs .... some kind of fairy tale
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 20 March 2018 09: 21
      +2
      "" Footcloths should be worn in the morning and on .. fresh head! "" lol
  3. realist
    realist 19 March 2018 15: 35
    +3
    the information is so interesting and so outdated, it seems that the army does not use boots and footcloths. Of course there are individual characters in Russia who continue to wear kirzachi and footcloths and do not know that they need to be washed as soon as the smell starts to interfere, but now they are in the know! thanks to the author for taking care of us .....
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 19 March 2018 16: 28
      +16
      Do not consider it intrusive. but in my opinion, everyone who wears kirzachi and footcloths now. this people know what it is and how to wear it! for it is a conscious choice from fashion to practicality! pampering is socks!
      interesting article!
      1. realist
        realist 19 March 2018 20: 10
        +1
        I was trying to joke ....
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 19 March 2018 16: 49
      +23
      Socks should be washed all the more.
      And it’s not the smell, dirty socks are even more likely to cause scuffs
  4. Oleg Jacket
    Oleg Jacket 19 March 2018 16: 26
    +6
    complete nonsense am
    socks, yes, and footcloths every day, but not in the field laughing
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 19 March 2018 16: 28
    +20
    Who wants to, he will find a way to wash socks or footcloths without special devices - there would be water ... But to have spare footcloths or socks for several days - that’s right ..
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 19 March 2018 16: 54
      +6
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      But to have spare footcloths or socks for several days - that’s right.

      Exactly! When we went to the exercises for several days (and even in rainy weather), we tried to take footcloths "in reserve" with us. Because in the taiga, when climbing up the hills in the rain or in marshy areas, it was necessary, sometimes .. . "knee" knead the dirt, pulling out the stuck equipment ... and then also arrange a "bivouac" .... again, in the rain.
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 19 March 2018 18: 04
        +8
        still does not prevent a bag of potassium permanganate in NZ to have ... and disinfect water, and saves from the fungus at times
        1. Cetron
          Cetron 19 March 2018 23: 46
          +5
          Better than potassium permanganate and baking soda is easier, the fungus plagues the infection, does not stain and is affordable and cheap. Tested for years.
          1. imrek_ua
            imrek_ua 24 March 2018 20: 07
            0
            And can you read more about the use of baking soda? I do not mock, but seriously interested.
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 7 March 2021 20: 54
              -1
              They are not seriously interested in this. Only medicines, of which there is a huge abundance now, help from the fungus, from Nitrofungin to Nizoral.
              1. imrek_ua
                imrek_ua 8 March 2021 18: 25
                0
                Almost 3 years have passed since the receipt of the answer to my question about the procedure for using soda. I used the advice several times. An excellent remedy for the prevention of fungus after long hiking tours, sometimes in wet shoes.
                And you most likely did not understand my comment. In this case, "seriously" means that the question is not asked to laugh, but to learn how to use baking soda to fight fungus.
                1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                  Sergey Aleksandrovich 15 March 2021 09: 31
                  0
                  Baking soda doesn't help fight fungus in any way, it's really serious. The medications that helped me, I have already mentioned above. Now there is a more affordable Mycozoral, but Nitrofungin has become a rarity and, on the contrary, has significantly risen in price.
                  1. imrek_ua
                    imrek_ua 15 May 2021 17: 28
                    0
                    You are inattentive. I'm talking about prevention, not treatment. I hope I shouldn't tell you the difference?
                    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                      Sergey Aleksandrovich 15 May 2021 21: 27
                      0
                      On the contrary, he is very attentive. Sometimes you really want to achieve the persecution of such medieval healers who recommend either potassium permanganate, or soda, or washing your feet with cold water.
                      There is no prophylaxis in this case and cannot be. Or do you suggest pouring soda into your boots?
                      1. imrek_ua
                        imrek_ua 17 May 2021 15: 59
                        0
                        I am not recommending anything to you. Do what and how you want. For this I end the discussion.
  6. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 19 March 2018 16: 46
    +6
    On woolen socks, you can put on top old female nylon stockings trimmed to the level of socks or “tracks”, borrowed from the female half of the family. Then the socks in boots (worn with rubber) will never tear. Footcloths in the dummies and without it do not break. About everyday washing - hehe. laughing
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 19 March 2018 16: 54
      +4
      Quote: Falcon5555
      Old woolen nylon stockings trimmed to the level of socks can be worn on woolen socks, or “tracks” borrowed from the female half of the family.

      This is, let's say, the budget option 8)))
      Coarse-knit tailor made tailoring is much better. Especially from dog hair
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 19 March 2018 18: 07
        +4
        that's for sure ...
        And nylon tights are best worn on the air intakes of electric tools. The brushes and lamellas of the anchor will live longer.
  7. atesterev
    atesterev 19 March 2018 16: 55
    +2
    Actually, the penultimate photo shows a camelback for drinking water in a bike backpack wink . As I imagine, washing socks in a tank for drinking water is a somewhat dubious idea.
    1. Michael_Zverev
      Michael_Zverev 19 March 2018 18: 05
      +4
      It is shown as an example, it says so above: "It seems that it is best to use a wide screw plug used in some types of rubber water bags. Here on this bag (in the photo below) the neck diameter is about 14 cm (with the total width of the bag 18 cm), which is enough. "
  8. fiberboard
    fiberboard 19 March 2018 16: 56
    +7
    It has long been necessary to return the boots and footcloths in the army. The author is a big plus, if everything as he writes it is just wonderful. Well, if someone is used to expressing anywhere, he can even dry in his pants
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 20 March 2018 11: 41
      +1
      Quote: fiberboard
      It has long been necessary to return the boots and footcloths in the army. The author is a big plus, if everything as he writes it is just wonderful. Well, if someone is used to expressing anywhere, he can even dry in his pants

      Right! What about the checker? What about a war horse? A soldier with a spear is more convenient - it’s hard to break and the cartridges will not end!
  9. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 19 March 2018 17: 26
    +6
    When he served, the clerk or foreman, once a week, on the bathing day, gave out clean linen and footcloths. No one had any problems.
  10. Terenin
    Terenin 19 March 2018 17: 29
    +5
    Foreign cars and shoes no longer fit. Some sort of pampered all armies.
    1. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 21 March 2018 13: 57
      +1
      These are the consequences of wearing shoes on socks. This does not happen in footcloths.
  11. Ace Tambourine
    Ace Tambourine 19 March 2018 18: 10
    +10
    For his 2 years, he was so used to kirzach and footcloths that later on in a civilian for a long time he could not refuse this pleasure.
    Yes, for the ankle, berets are the best option in the mountains, but there will be no better kirsa in the field. Yes, and then you can put a footcloth in the hand in the hand of the enemy in the nose and calm down the "tongue" ... laughing
    1. ruslann004
      ruslann004 19 March 2018 20: 33
      +3
      I'm just a lantern from this nonsense that you wrote here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Are you friends with the head ?????????????????????????
      Each serviceman as soon as it becomes possible to remove kirzachki and footcloths and exchange them for socks and normal shoes, he does it right there.
      Only a complete stupid person can miss the footcloths!
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 19 March 2018 20: 43
        +10
        Quote: ruslann004
        Each serviceman as soon as it becomes possible to remove kirzachki and footcloths and exchange them for socks and normal shoes, he does it right there.

        That is, in the PDP. Walk on the parade ground. 8)))
        And in the fields "normal shoes" are not particularly good, to say the least.
      2. philosopher
        philosopher 19 March 2018 21: 59
        +16
        Citizen Ruslan, do not be rude. If you have not had the chance to experience the conditions of service under which, at the first opportunity, berets change to kirzachi with footcloths, I can only envy.
        I served urgent in the far north. I wore Bertsa only on dismissal and on leaving for the city on service (in summer, on asphalt). In the off-season in the tundra in berets - there is nothing to do if health is not superfluous.
        Oddly enough, in the summer (I do not take the extremely hot southern regions as an example) footcloths made of thick cotton with fleece allow you to keep your legs in comfort until the evening. By the way, the speed to properly wrap kirzachi with footcloths is much faster than socks with berets and lace up.
        I'm not saying that boots are always better than boots, but they also have undeniable advantages in certain conditions, which should not be forgotten.
      3. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 20 March 2018 07: 41
        +1
        Apparently you didn’t use the boots and stretched out, the charm of the kirzach, at least I had it, they eventually took on the shape of their legs, elegantly flew inside their legs like clockwork. Well, now in the shoes so that moisture and sweat are removed well by women's pads, they perfectly absorb
      4. al.schenaev
        al.schenaev 22 March 2018 21: 44
        +2
        Fanare is further, but still stock up with a dozen socks, meters of laces, preferably cotton, so that when the bundle gets wet, you can only cut it with a knife:
        Memo to the participant of the 1121 parade in Moscow:
        ... the socks should be sewn to the underpants, the laces are wetted and tied (double reef knot). When dry, fuck you will untie them.
        I watched as pantoners in berets ran on water. Sometimes I go out to the fire in berets, then my legs are wet knee-deep, the kirzachs stay a little longer, but sometimes they get wet.
        1. al.schenaev
          al.schenaev 22 March 2018 21: 45
          +1
          Typo: 111 parade, November 7, 1984, KVVMKU im. S.M. Kirova
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 March 2018 22: 13
      0
      You are my friend, a campaign masochist.
      1. Cheldon
        Cheldon 19 March 2018 22: 45
        +4
        Quote: Vadim237
        You are my friend, a campaign masochist.

        All 4 years in footcloths, put on socks a couple of times and spat on it. I did not wind up a footcloth, put it on top and put in my foot, I never rubbed it.
        1. philosopher
          philosopher 22 March 2018 20: 51
          +1
          We called it "parachute." smile I did it too at first, but unexpected long runs were a good pill from the “paratroopers”. The footcloths dressed with a parachute do not protect the leg at all and it stumbles to blisters in half an hour of running. And if you sit in the headquarters - no matter how to dress.
  12. alovrov
    alovrov 19 March 2018 18: 24
    +5
    Quote: 16112014nk
    When he served, the clerk or foreman, once a week, on the bathing day, gave out clean linen and footcloths. No one had any problems.


    That's right - five years passed in footcloths, every day did not wash, once a week. I have never knocked down my legs. True, the boots of the cruisers were yuft.
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 19 March 2018 19: 02
      +5
      Right! The practical thing is footcloths. At a convenient moment, rewound and forward. The rewound portion on the drumstick dries quickly. With socks, such a trick will not work. And in the evening, if necessary, before going to bed, you can rinse in any water.
      1. urman
        urman 19 March 2018 21: 09
        +8
        Quote: ltc35
        Right! The practical thing is footcloths. At a convenient moment, rewound and forward. The rewound portion on the drumstick dries quickly. With socks, such a trick will not work. And in the evening, if necessary, before going to bed, you can rinse in any water.

        And if the footcloth is wound correctly, then after removing the boot, it remains on the leg like a sock.
        During the rewind and the leg is always dry.
        \\\\\ soldiers must be taught hygiene \\\\\\
        IF IN KAZARMA THAT NAILS NEED EVERY DAY WASH,
        and the Nemtykov-chukhanov, we kicked him into the soap box in the evening, that's all the study,
        it can be tough, but effective, hygiene rules are instilled.
        And to whom it was still difficult for someone on duty to throw it up a couple of times a night, to wash their feet and wash, because you don’t stink.
    2. 97110
      97110 19 March 2018 20: 35
      +4
      Quote: alovrov
      I have never knocked down my legs

      To understand how and why it is necessary to wind the footcloth carefully, from the first tactics I came a little later than my assault rifle. I am considering what came out of the legs. Well? ”The platoon asks. Erased my legs - I report. You can be punished. During the war, self-harm was considered - brought the platoon to my attention. I realized that I was in the army. Ehh, that was a long time ago.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 20 March 2018 02: 17
        +4
        Quote: 97110
        Erased my legs - I report. You can be punished. In the war, self-harm was considered - brought platoon to mine

        Dad taught me how to wrap footcloths ... in front of the army.
        1. 97110
          97110 20 March 2018 07: 19
          +1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Dad taught me how to wrap footcloths ... in front of the army.

          Unfortunately, Bati, not without the efforts of her grandmothers, had a different family. And not far, but without a road - I was at a party, but on the ship, I need a day there, a day back. Now I’ll come to visit my mother, my brother or nephew will drive by car, half an hour’s business. Roads are normal, a bridge was built across the Small Northern Dvina.
  13. family tree
    family tree 19 March 2018 19: 17
    +7
    "It is enough to put a dirty thing inside, pour water, cover with washing powder, close and put in a backpack. At the next halt"
    Plus one and a half kg on the march. You are angry sad
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 19 March 2018 20: 45
      +4
      Quote: perepilka
      Plus one and a half kg on the march.

      Drop the machine drum. Infantry now almost no pawn.
      1. family tree
        family tree 19 March 2018 21: 37
        +6
        Well, that's not the point either. That way and the legs dry out, and, finally, walking strengthens the genitals, the company said request
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 19 March 2018 21: 54
          +11
          Quote: perepilka
          Well, that's not the point either. That way and the legs dry out, and, finally, walking strengthens the genitals, the company said request

          This, of course, is important. Endurance, march throws and more ...
          But for a modern motorized rifle, shuttle running must be worked out first of all, and in the old version, from the emphasis on lying. As well as both lanes and "filthy distances" from 400 to a kilometer. And everything is in body armor.
          Other infantry requirements now.
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 20 March 2018 16: 36
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: perepilka
            Well, that's not the point either. That way and the legs dry out, and, finally, walking strengthens the genitals, the company said request

            This, of course, is important. Endurance, march throws and more ...
            But for a modern motorized rifle, shuttle running must be worked out first of all, and in the old version, from the emphasis on lying. As well as both lanes and "filthy distances" from 400 to a kilometer. And everything is in body armor.
            Other infantry requirements now.

            We and the 10-ku ran as part of the study group on the CCM, and the OKU-32 strip almost the entire group on the CCM ran. But when they introduced a new general control strip, it was only "excellent". So I agree drinks
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 20 March 2018 17: 45
              +1
              Quote: Doliva63
              But when the new general control strip was introduced, it was only "excellent"

              As far as I remember, "Excellent" is in the third category. In general, a pretty simple thing, if a good teacher got caught and driven in the technique of passing.
  14. garri-lin
    garri-lin 19 March 2018 19: 18
    +12
    And the idea with the laundry bag is pretty robust. Sometimes “in the field” with washing real problems and the shift can end quite suddenly.
    Personally, I had several moments in my life when such an ersatz of a basin would be very useful. Think it over correctly and put it into trial operation, plus sell it to tourists.
    The inner surface is not even but like a washboard. In a massive lid, a container for several servings of detergent. Silver spraying on the inside of the lid for a disinfecting effect.
    1. beeper
      beeper 20 March 2018 00: 54
      +4
      Impressed by your creativity, with these improvements you have significantly developed and brought to an entirely competitive, salable appearance the author’s idea good ! In the Wild West, big businesses grew out of such interesting, comprehensively thought out and patented ideas ...
      hi
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 20 March 2018 01: 44
        +4
        Alas. I am a patriot of my homeland. If I wanted to get to America I would have asked to serve in the Strategic Missile Forces. So use the ideas of everyone who needs absolutely free. Lish would be good
        1. beeper
          beeper 20 March 2018 13: 47
          +1
          Like all of us, dear Garri-lin yes
          hi
  15. Micfoster
    Micfoster 19 March 2018 19: 27
    +4
    And I erased my HB and footcloths with gasoline. He put things in capping from a tank charge, closed them with a lid and rolled them for about 30 minutes. Then he put things out in the sun and dried. The most interesting thing is that they dried quickly and did not smell of gasoline at all. When they told me about this method, I thought the comrades were lying godlessly, and when I saw it live and tried it, it turned out to be true.
  16. tractor driver73
    tractor driver73 19 March 2018 19: 29
    0
    An alien from other worlds!
  17. Wolka
    Wolka 19 March 2018 19: 44
    +3
    very useful article ...
  18. DA TAK
    DA TAK 19 March 2018 20: 39
    +4
    WASHING FEETS NEEDED every day, and footcloths were changed in the Soviet army once a week and this was enough (if it is good to dry). Even as an officer I wore footcloths and changed them at most once every 3 days.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 20 March 2018 16: 46
      +8
      It is clear that the feet should be washed daily, and with cold water, if at night.
      And footcloths were washed on an urgent basis daily. Both healthy legs and grace in the barracks laughing
      And as an officer, he often changed his footcloths by lunchtime — they ran from the training ground, showers, changed all the clothes, because everything was sweaty and dirty. If in the mountains, then they went in boots, for this case there were knitted socks. Washed every day in the evening. In, damn it, the romance of the service! laughing drinks
  19. SAF
    SAF 19 March 2018 21: 17
    +1
    Quote: 16112014nk
    wash off

    Quote: ltc35
    Right! The practical thing is footcloths. At a convenient moment, rewound and forward. The rewound portion on the drumstick dries quickly. With socks, such a trick will not work. And in the evening, if necessary, before going to bed, you can rinse in any water.


    That's it! Rewind - that is, the worn part above or in the opposite direction - more or less a sense of purity.
    And you won’t turn your socks upside down.
    That is, when turning the footcloths - relatively clean - for 2-4 days
  20. svp67
    svp67 19 March 2018 21: 18
    +4
    allows you to wash on the march without any effort. It is enough to put a dirty thing inside, pour water, fall asleep washing powder, close and put in a backpack. At the next halt, pour dirty water, rinse, and the wash is finished.
    The author is BEAUTIFUL and I wish him to test his rational offer FOR YOURSELF ... And then let him decide if such a method is worth using or is it better to bring along an extra pack of cartridges or a can of canned food ... and wash in the halt
    1. wehr
      19 March 2018 21: 32
      +3
      So I started with the test. laughing
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 19 March 2018 21: 58
        +3
        Quote: wehr
        So I started with the test.

        And what has practice shown? Hands stretch easier? 8)))
        1. wehr
          19 March 2018 22: 02
          +3
          Article did not read, or what?
          The part under the heading "pocket wash experience".
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 20 March 2018 07: 13
            +1
            Was reading.
            Not convinced.
            I think your option for the army is more complicated than washing the little things manually.
            1. wehr
              20 March 2018 12: 54
              +1
              Well, yes, it can be easier manually, when there is a bathroom, water and basins in the barracks, you can decompose and do not rush to wash.
              And when the water is running out, time and effort are also running out and there is no basin at hand? What will you do?
      2. svp67
        svp67 20 March 2018 03: 45
        0
        Quote: wehr
        So I started with the test

        And how is it? How is the feeling of an extra couple of kilograms behind you on a camping trip?
  21. Palagecha
    Palagecha 19 March 2018 22: 33
    +5
    Will I never again wake up in a tiny cockpit with bunk beds and breathe this wonderful symbiotic smell of pretty boots, unwashed footcloths, products of flatulence, unwashed bodies, odorous ointments from fungus and sweat from hundreds of snouts reaching for knowledge ...
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 19 March 2018 22: 49
      +1
      What . Igor Ivanovich. did the nostalgic barracks go up in the barracks?
      1. Palagecha
        Palagecha 21 March 2018 02: 57
        0
        It is very nice that someone remembers me ... hi It’s so good to serve now ...
    2. Sewer krainiy
      Sewer krainiy 19 March 2018 23: 41
      +3
      Excuse me, but in cockpit I wore boots (burnouts) with socks. On dismissal - chrome. We had no boots and footcloths. The Marine ??? hi
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 20 March 2018 16: 50
        +4
        We also called sleeping quarters as cockpits. And the officers' offices, in addition to company offices, were called cells laughing Reconnaissance Panzer Division drinks
        1. Sewer krainiy
          Sewer krainiy 20 March 2018 19: 55
          +1
          So people are potential morphlot wink hi drinks
      2. Palagecha
        Palagecha 20 March 2018 21: 54
        +1
        I thought that someone would pay attention to this! No, not a Marine, it’s just that our location was divided ... into two cubicles ... for some reason they called it ...
        1. al.schenaev
          al.schenaev 22 March 2018 21: 59
          +2
          I work in the fire department:
          - summer jacket with a zipper (such as our black navy), in a fire "officer" calls a tunic, would completely kill mediocrity;
          - a winter jacket with a zipper is also called pea jacket, I would cut off all the ignoramus’s eggs.
          It simply disturbs some of the “leaders” who want to give out what they wish for reality.
          You can’t erase 17 years in the fleet from life, and when the army uniform is called naval names, it just takes evil, but also pride in the fleet.
          Hit the fleet - be proud, did not hit - rejoice.
          1. imrek_ua
            imrek_ua 24 March 2018 20: 28
            0
            Yes, terminology sometimes kills. By the way. in Russian there is no word stupidity, but there is a word stupidity;)
  22. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 19 March 2018 22: 54
    +1
    Quote: the most important
    Complete nonsense ...

    I completely agree. We live in an interesting time ... The author, according to the fiery fighter of the Communist Party, will teach people who have run away / jumped in boots for two years, and many more. Interesting, but the author even knows what a footcloth is.
    It is written here that the berets protect the ankle. A correctly wound footcloth fixes the ankle of a hoo!
    And about hygiene: wash your hands before eating !!! Just a footcloth is a story !!!
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 20 March 2018 01: 36
      +3
      Don’t tell me. The footcloth even goes with berets. And also, doing better than good socks.
  23. Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 19 March 2018 23: 00
    +5
    Che Guevara came across this: "a partisan who neglects washing his dishes after dinner is a saboteur and a crossbow that plays into the hands of our enemies!"

    Hygiene is the first step to reducing losses.
  24. beeper
    beeper 20 March 2018 00: 34
    +8
    I liked the article very much good and raises important, not only for the army, issues of everyday hygiene! yes
    The theoretical “eyeliner” is also interesting, even a snapshot of quartz particles (in ordinary dust and in desert sand, they are so run-in as in the center of the picture, without sharp edges, and in the abrasive dust formed during sharpening and grinding, just with sharp-to-light gets, does not return, accumulates ...).
    There are some nuances in the footcloths, first of all they need to be able to wrap correctly on the leg, those who have not mastered this skill will rub their leg with the most sterile footcloths instantly! yes It is better to have a larger boot (a small "backlash" can always be wound with a footcloth, and even if the leg swells, bandaged, abscess or swelling for some reason, such a slightly loose boot can be easily put on and removed) than a tight one!
    The nuance of the second one is that the footcloth has two ends, one soak is sweating on the leg, you wind it around with the second, which is drier and the wet one is up on the shin, where it is dried. It is possible to release up the shafts, if in the field or on the march, in the warm season, it dries faster ...
    About the package, it’s rightly noticed, I myself (and I wasn’t alone!, So cunning) erased it a couple of times when there was nothing, but I didn’t like such a shaky method — off-the-shelf. IMHO
    If "super fast (by match or by stopwatch winked ) where you need to jump out nearby, then you put the deployed footcloth on top of the boot and put your foot ... it's a trickster to the extreme, you won’t go that far, you will need to rewind right away, and this trick is well-known ...
    It’s better to have boots with footcloths, if you have mastered everything correctly, there are no everyday shoes for the “all-terrain” soldier, as if someone had not convinced me otherwise! But my son got to serve already in the boot-toe "era" .. well, at least in technology, and not in the "infantry" ...
    Well, of course, the author correctly emphasizes that in any situation it is important to observe personal hygiene and, if possible, organize regular laundry, ..
    Respect and respect to the author! good
    hi
  25. tracer
    tracer 20 March 2018 02: 59
    +3
    By the way, no one ever mentioned this, that the footcloth is clean or what it is, was used as a bandaging material for the wounded. Not hygienic, oh yes ..... But when you think about hygiene, once instinct tells you what a wide strip of blood-absorbing tissue is. Everything else will come later. And everything must be done so that this "later" comes.
  26. Good
    Good 20 March 2018 04: 29
    +2
    Uncle on Sakhalin served in the early 70's. So he said that when everything was swept in the winter, and they cleaned the snow in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk all day, the boots in the boiler room were dried in boilers, the boiler room barely worked. And footcloths wrapped themselves in a circle for the night. And in the morning they were dry.
  27. awl
    awl 20 March 2018 07: 51
    +3
    Footcloths are much better than socks when wearing boots, berets, up to 12 hours a day! Even while walking in berets, he still shook his footcloths! good
  28. Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub 20 March 2018 09: 20
    +1
    But the topic itself is not tired? Elephant or whale? And how much laundry for footwear should the unit additionally carry with it?
    1. wehr
      20 March 2018 21: 47
      +3
      This is an eternal topic. We are still mars dusty trails kirzachami stomp laughing
  29. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 20 March 2018 13: 37
    +2
    “Interesting things were told to me by a veteran and an ordinary soldier of the Communist Party. It turns out that footcloths should be washed every day, and not once a week. Later, after thinking over and generalizing my own experience of wearing boots, I came to the conclusion that he was completely right.” - can a severe veteran also teach that you need to wash your feet every day? And change panties more often? The author’s pearls - you don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
    1. Andrea1278
      Andrea1278 20 March 2018 22: 44
      +2
      You will laugh, but in our company the fighters began to suffer from cholera en masse. It turned out that they took water for drinking in a stream, upstream in which the corpse of an insurgent was lying. To my question why? one "warrior" answered good-naturedly: "But whoever has no health - he will fall ill, whoever is healthy - he will not have anything!" and drank water without even boiling, just scooping up a mug from a stream ... And this is our valiant army! 21 century!
  30. Sigoulin Andrei
    Sigoulin Andrei 20 March 2018 14: 23
    0
    not from a good life in our homeland there are so many adherents of footcloths and pickaxes, but from the lack of normal shoes and socks. Good trekkinks or mountain mendel, plus a few pairs of good socks (not Chinese shit) and god help
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 20 March 2018 17: 09
      +8
      A long time ago, somehow I allowed the soldiers to use any comfortable shoes in the fields. They wore sneakers, boots (different), even rubber boots. A month later, everyone stupidly wore yuft laced boots, and their favorite shoes lay in the taxiway. Practice is the criterion of truth, so to speak drinks I had beautiful boots, but when I had to go to the forest with swamps, I always chose boots. The choice was, however.
    2. Andrea1278
      Andrea1278 20 March 2018 22: 39
      +2
      Highly specialized shoes are perfect only in highly specialized conditions. You can’t walk through the swamps in mountain boots, and the bootleg will protect you better from snake bites when combing.
  31. Andrea1278
    Andrea1278 20 March 2018 22: 35
    +3
    A washing bag just for washing socks? But isn't it too wasteful and narrowly specialized? The dimensions of the bag should be increased and made not “ears” for attaching the string, but strong rings. The rope to carry the bag should already be included. And a purely practical question. Alright on the march - I threw the washing bag on the behu or put it in the duffel bag - and order. And on the positions? In order to carry it in a duffel bag you need to shake everything out of it and throw it in a pile ... and this is not an ice. So the option when a washing bag can be worn for a long time without a bag should be the main one. So a strong rope and rings are required initially. The diameter of the neck should be such that the brush of an adult man passes quietly into it. After all, it is necessary to wash the washing bag both outside and inside.
    1. wehr
      20 March 2018 23: 29
      +1
      It is possible to wash any items whose weight does not exceed a kilogram (socks, footcloths, underwear, etc.). To make it larger in size and capacity, in my opinion it is not practical - it will become harder to erase.
      In addition, the package itself is small, a maximum of 30х20 cm, with a capacity from 1,5 to 2 liters of water. Weight is empty somewhere in 300-50 grams. An empty package can be minimized.
      Rings can be added. The 14 diameter neck cm is enough, even with a margin.
  32. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 21 March 2018 13: 56
    +2
    With the transition of the army from boots to berets, I didn’t even think of abandoning the “porosiks”. In Tajikistan, in hot weather, a foot in socks becomes wet once, that at least squeeze the socks, and there was no such nonsense with footcloths. If necessary, wash more often. A good idea is proposed by the author for implementation in the army (in field equipment), especially taking into account the fact that the armada was transferred to socks.
  33. PENZA
    PENZA 21 March 2018 18: 13
    0
    A lot of text meaning is not clear
  34. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 21 March 2018 21: 32
    -1
    I don’t want to offend anyone, but they used to say: ,, ... only ... the soldier in the service about women, and with women about women ... ''
    Guys, again, no offense !!!
  35. north_ok
    north_ok 22 March 2018 15: 26
    +4
    Already after 2005, the Chief intelligence officers gave instruction before the trip to the south, one of the main recommendations for a long trip was just to wear footcloths (shoes, boots or berets, at their discretion) + spare ones. Their output could last sometimes up to 2 weeks, so the guys knew what they were saying. We sometimes washed sometimes just rinsing in the nearest relatively clean puddle. dried under the uniform on the belt. I knew one eccentric who had cashmere footcloths)).
    1. wehr
      22 March 2018 15: 45
      +1
      Cashmere footwoman ... laughing He is a connoisseur, however!
  36. Palagecha
    Palagecha 23 March 2018 18: 51
    0
    I re-read everything and thought ... if so much can be written about the footcloth, then what can I write about the tank !!! fellow
  37. 72jora72
    72jora72 24 March 2018 09: 14
    +5
    Quote: Michael28
    And at the expense of washing everything is much simpler. Enter the laundress into the staff of the rifle department: at the end of the day, it launders all. Accordingly, each compartment should be provided with a bathtub, because without an evening bath / shower it is difficult to imagine the life of a modern person.
    In vain, humor, the personal hygiene of a fighter (including clean and dry socks or footcloths) is just as important as, for example, the presence of BC.
  38. SergeyZel
    SergeyZel 24 March 2018 13: 37
    0
    What foot wraps? What are you talking about? The first contribution of S. Shoigu to strengthening the combat readiness of the RF Armed Forces, which the media conveyed to every Russian citizen, was precisely in the replacement of footcloths with socks.
  39. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 24 March 2018 14: 34
    +2
    Quote: dauria
    Not every soldier has time to wash his footcloths every day.


    Well, yes, whining and running abscesses he has time. Especially in the Gobi desert, as you put it, in those parts, every scratch turns into a non-healing purulent wound. It was like that in Afghanistan. And they washed themselves and bedding and clothes. Yes, the officers washed, do not laugh. In winter, it’s even easier - snow is thrown alternately with kerosene into the zinc from under the cartridges, above this “bonfire” there is a 20 liter can from AMG. Here is the laundry.
    For me, nothing was more practical than cadet boots and footcloths. And in the summer their legs do not sweat in them, they are bastards. The only thing is that the hair on the shins is wiped, on the beach you can easily distinguish a warrior from a civilian. laughing
    And the article and the author are a plus.

    Sweat feet in boots and especially in the summer. Yes, and not sugar in the fall. Especially in kirzach. Life in war is all. He didn’t wash his socks; he erased his legs. did not wash your shirt and underpants- get lice! bully bully
  40. Wilderness
    Wilderness 24 March 2018 14: 42
    +3
    The article is interesting, the author is a huge plus !!! But as for the washing in the bag ... Maybe my legs are so crooked, but usually in the field the socks do not live to wash (alas, I did not wear footcloths, I don’t know). The usual life cycle of a sock (ideal scenario): put it on in the morning, it already had two holes on it (under the fingers and on the heel) - turned it upside down, in the evening there were already four holes (in fact one cuff with lace rags) - threw it into the bushes. Knitwear (any) is convenient, but alas, unstable and unrepairable, it’s not an option for war.
  41. martin-159
    martin-159 24 March 2018 15: 06
    0
    The author of an article about footcloths, someone told how to wear them.