OSCE: the question of admission of Russians to the vote should be independently decided by Moscow and Kiev

The process of ensuring that Russians vote in presidential elections in Ukraine should be determined by bilateral agreements between Moscow and Kiev, the correspondent was told TASS in the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR).

Due to the lack of international standards or agreements on ensuring voting in foreign elections, I think that such voting processes are determined by bilateral agreements between the two participating countries (Russia and Ukraine),

said ODIHR spokesman Thomas Rymer at the request to comment on blocking the access of Russians to voting in Ukraine.

He emphasized that “the OSCE / ODIHR has placed an observation mission at the presidential elections in Russia and is engaged in monitoring only in the territory of the Russian Federation”.

Our observation mandate covers only the voting process in Russia,

added Rymer.

At the same time, the OSCE headquarters in Vienna recalled that “the two authorized OSCE election monitoring institutions and the voting process are the OSCE / ODIHR and the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly”.

On March 16, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine announced that “the protection regime of Russian diplomatic missions on the territory of Ukraine - in Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa and Lviv - will not provide access to these objects for Russian citizens to vote in elections”.

On the night of March 18, the embassy’s buildings in these cities were cordoned off by Ukrainian security forces. Ukrainian nationalists also joined the blocking of polling stations. As a result, so far only diplomats and employees of the diplomatic missions of the Russian Federation could take part in the voting.

According to the CEC of the Russian Federation, 72 thousand Russians who have the right to participate in elections stand on the consular register in Ukraine.

Comments

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

One more confirmation: the hypocrisy and double standards - these are the "Western values". The meaninglessness and futility of the OSCE has become even more evident.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

the question of the admission of Russians to the vote must be independently decided by Moscow and Kiev

We do not mind ...

And for a long time already we want to vote ...

[gippernano]

It has long been necessary to check whether voting by the dollar or Iskander is more effective.

[Dead duck]

nuuu ... in the air (popular masses), and so long ago, there is an opinion that in vain they stopped the attack on Mariupol in due time, followed by advancements to the western border of the outskirts ...

[ancestors from Don]

We have remembered this “advice” and will solve the problem of the DPR and LPR without the OSCE, on our own!

[vlad66]

Our observation mandate covers only the voting process in Russia,

Ahem, but next year the elections will be in dill and if we also block all the diplomatic missions of Ukrainians and how much will the OSCE howl about the violation of human rights in Russia?

[ancestors from Don]

Quote: vlad66

Our observation mandate covers only the voting process in Russia,

Ahem, but next year the elections will be in dill and if we also block all the diplomatic missions of Ukrainians and how much will the OSCE howl about the violation of human rights in Russia?

The best answer is not to block the 404 embassy, ​​but to completely close it with the simultaneous deportation of all "voters" located in Russia.

[vlad66]

Quote: ancestors from the Don

The best answer is not to block the 404 embassy, ​​but to completely close it with the simultaneous deportation of all "voters" located in Russia.

I absolutely agree with you Colleague! Plus the introduction of a visa regime.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: vlad66

Quote: ancestors from the Don

The best answer is not to block the 404 embassy, ​​but to completely close it with the simultaneous deportation of all "voters" located in Russia.

I absolutely agree with you Colleague! Plus the introduction of a visa regime.

+ complete economic blockade !!!

[gippernano]

They until next year, still need to live.

[assa67]

Vlad, welcome ... in dill, an abomination is happening ... not admitting 70 thousand Russians to the elections is a violation of all norms, and the OSCE’s runny nose about an “independent decision” once again convinces us that Russia has nothing to do in this sipulkaria

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: assa67

convinces once again that Russia has nothing to do in this sipulkaria

just like there is nothing to do there for these 70 thousand Russians in Hohland !!!

[assa67]

maybe it's not the Russians? .. although this is infa from our election commission .....

[Antares]

Quote: assa67

maybe it's not the Russians? .. although this is infa from our election commission .....

The election commission takes data from consulates. Consulates are registered with all arrivals and residents of the district. Data on holders of a red passport
Something like this

Of course they are not Russians ... and are registered with the Russian consulates ...

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Antares

Quote: assa67

maybe it's not the Russians? .. although this is infa from our election commission .....

The election commission takes data from consulates. Consulates are registered with all arrivals and residents of the district. Data on holders of a red passport
Something like this

Of course they are not Russians ... and are registered with the Russian consulates ...

By the way, as the 16th vote in the Duma showed, a large percentage of some overseas sections were given for liberals like the Yabloko !!! along the way, there are too many "our" "fellow citizens" poisoned by the "Durach0k" gas !!!

[assa67]

But you shouldn’t be rude.

[assa67]

there are thousands of such passports in gunpowder, since the 14th year it has been shaking

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: assa67

maybe it's not the Russians? .. although this is infa from our election commission .....

I can tell from personal experience ... my parents have friends ... their daughter was dumped in hohland in the mid-90s ... and lives there ... at the same time, she has ... a Russian passport ... against Khokhlyat he doesn’t get ... here is such a squiggle ... the stump is clear that it is considered there to be a civil Russia, which has the right to vote !!!

[gippernano]

ODIHERS are somewhat finished)))) Dismiss, do not pay salaries.

[Kent0001]

And what did you expect from these political IMPOTENTS. Then let them not bother with us on any issues at all, we will figure it out ourselves, and with anyone.

[Mikhail m]

Valerik, I see the flag, but judging by the grammar, I am tormented by vague doubts about belonging to the carriers of the great and mighty. Gentlemen of modera, here is a striking example of the need for minuses.

[Tersky]

Quote: Mikhail M

Gentlemen of modera, here is a striking example of the need for minuses.

You were silently mistaken Michael, this is a vivid example of how to ask for directions to the "bathhouse".

[Reserve officer]

Something I did not understand - human rights are determined by bilateral agreements? So you need to understand the response of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR)?

[d ^ Amir]

Sincerely, you are not looking for logic, it got stuck in Washington, while writing a training manual ...

[Topotun]

Honestly, there is no logic in this office for a long time. And the point is to continue to pay fees for participating in this talking room?

[d ^ Amir]

Good afternoon!!! the only goal is a sort of meteorological station, to determine the direction of the "political wind" and related smells

[Topotun]

Where the wind blows is so clear. To a little war game - preferably in Europe and very desirable without nuclear weapons ....

[ARES623]

Quote: Reserve officer

Something I did not understand - human rights are determined by bilateral agreements? So you need to understand the response of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR)?

That is exactly what you need to understand them. And after understanding it is necessary to get out of the Council of Europe with its OSCE and others. Neither a platform for negotiations, nor a system for restoring order in international relations, nor a body for enforcing compliance with the adopted principles of the Council of Europe is. What are we doing there? Why do we keep our money? Soon the Council of Europe will begin its meetings with Alah Akbar. Why do we need this? Question to the new president ....

[askort154]

OSCE where were you when Russia, as it were, chose Trump.

[Methane]

They should be decided by Moscow and Kiev, you say? Well, that’s Moscow. And we need to solve this issue with Kiev, that is, leave smoke with great soot from the Kiev rulers (authorities)!

[K-50]

Quote: askort154

OSCE where were you when Russia, as it were, chose Trump.

So Trump was not chosen in Europe. Here they were silent.

[Dormidont]

Did someone expect a different answer? Universal people for Russia will not hit a finger on a finger. Only to the detriment

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Dormidont

Did someone expect a different answer? Universal people for Russia will not hit a finger on a finger. Only to the detriment

Everything is clear with the OSCE .... And what about the State Department ?!
Usually this "gag" screeches about violations of rights even when there are no violations, but here ..... numb fuck.

[d ^ Amir]

translated into Russian, this activist said that we were set up to look for (create and publish) voting violations on the territory of the Russian Federation, and what the rest are doing is not our concern, our commanders are there ... you know such a bureau for democratic institutions. ..

[DPN]

the owner does what he wants. Moreover, at home.

[Masya masya]

as expected, abstracted ...

[Dezinto]

abstracted ..

There is still such a method of discussion when the opponent carries such wildest heresy in response to your prudent statements that you simply fall into a stupor, because well, it’s just not clear what to say to “this”.
Like this:
"2 + 2 = 5, I know that for sure, but you seem to be poorly versed in the topic, and stop talking here"

So just what is the answer? Already shaking as infuriates. Pure provocation.

The OSCE showed this excellently in Ukraine, when shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces took place, they were sitting in a hotel and scribbling rubbish on the Internet. When everything died down they went to their places and thoughtfully thought - "hmmmm, and who could it be?"

[Lelek]

Quote: DEZINTO

Already shaking as infuriates. Pure provocation.

Man, spit without rubbing. Take care of your nerves. "For physical and moral strength, to preserve maximum, drink natural juices - strengthen your chest and shoulders." Elections are held in the Russian Crimea calmly and according to plan, as noted by foreign observers. The rest is the vanity of dirty tricks.

[Dezinto]

Take care of your nerves.

No, I'm calm as always.
This is just an example just said. Our armored train doesn’t.

[Masya masya]

Quote: DEZINTO

Our armored train doesn’t.

but he is in pairs, stands on the siding !!!

[Dezinto]

under pairs, stands on the siding !!!

And start at the appointed time ....

[Lelek]

Quote: DEZINTO

Yes no, I'm calm as always

That's nice, I also wish the rest the same.

[Dezinto]

I would not want to start life all over again - I will repeat everything exactly exactly the same. This will endless recursion.
It seems to have already learned to distinguish lies from truth.
In short, the third option. :)

[Lelek]

Quote: DEZINTO

In short, the third option.

Again - I agree.

[KVU-NSVD]

According to the CEC of the Russian Federation, 72 thousand Russians who have the right to participate in elections stand on the consular register in Ukraine.

To collect their statements and file a class action with the Strassburg Court for Human Rights and look at the reaction, but from all the sites ten times a day, this case and its course to remember and comment on ... We would stir ... wouldn’t go anywhere ..

[krasnyiy.partizan]

Not enough for you Stockholm court? Didn’t you understand that the 404 is an instrument in the hands of the EU and the USA against Russia, which they will never punish?

[Vard]

The question is ... why the hell is it for the OSCE ... How to pour mud, they’re right there ... like something on the case ... we’re kind of out of business ...

[Flexsus]

It is necessary to sue Avakov, for obstruction in the conduct of elections)))

[taiga2018]

it means in 2019 to answer in the same way, no election in Russia ...

[iliitchitch]

Quote: taiga2018

it means in 2019 to answer in the same way, no election in Russia ...

Actually, why? Let yourself vote. I doubt that those Ukrainians who work for us will be two hands for soundly sober Petsu. Fascists to throw Pistons on a sofa - just the time, apparently, has not come yet. It is necessary to work methodically on the return of Russian coastal cities, and this Ukrainian misunderstanding is split into pieces in order to return to its original state. The bits from the process - to catapult to Poland. Garbage to the trash.

[taiga2018]

Quote: iliitch

I doubt that those Ukrainians who work for us will be two hands for soundly sober Petsu

it is a very big mistake to think that those Sumerians who work for us are less Maidan than those who constantly reside in their own country ...

[Kurare]

Ukraine - tse Evropa or did I miss something? Or is she only selective in Europe when it comes to relations with Russia. OSCE - my hut from the edge, I don’t know anything!

[razved]

Well, why the hell are they so "good" needed? But on the account of bilateral agreements - the eternally offended non-brothers next year also have elections ...

[Terenin]

OSCE:... must be decided independently by Moscow and Kiev
Russian Foreign Ministry, write down this moronic answer and always read it to all questions from their side on our relations with Ukraine

[Rurikovich]

Class! Now it’s possible to poke ODIHR mails and other rubbish in their own rights and duties if one decides to read morals about some of the rights of the people there. .Handsomely....

[Non liberoid Russian]

Well, OK, if so)))) it is possible in 2019 when there will be elections in the outskirts, the same situation will arise in Russia, the nationalists will be lowered to ukrov, they will post the guard at the entrances of ukrov consulates and they will not let anyone except the workers))) but on all the screams obscure this phrase with a proposal to shut up and roll off

[Antares]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

and at the entrances of consulates ukrov they won’t let anyone except the workers))) and all phrases will enclose this phrase with a proposal to shut up and roll off

yes please (our partners will answer yours this way) ... ours are not interested in these 5 million .. they also always vote for the opposition and all sorts of smartly and oppobloki ..
On the contrary, if you want to change something, then you need all that you have described to make all blue passport holders come and vote! 5 million passport holders can swing the swing be healthy!

[K-50]

such voting processes are determined by bilateral agreements between the two participating countries (Russia and Ukraine),

If Russia for some reason (?) Did not allow the Sumerians to vote, then the howl would stand on the whole universe, so much so that even gray men would fly to look at the reason for it.

[krasnyiy.partizan]

It should be done the same way, when in a year in 404 there will be a prezik election. If the OSCE begins to resent the actions of Russia, then it should immediately be sent in a certain direction, as well as the Salophilic "Sumerians."

[iliitchitch]

ODIHR OSCE. ABYRVALGI. The worm creeps, the roof goes. How did they become honored at Leonardo da Vinci, O sons of misery. But "human rights" above all, this is not discussed. They don’t discuss it, they are silent in a striped rag. The wall, the wall from these banderlogs, winter is near.

[Thunderbolt]

independently decided by Moscow and Kiev

How is it ... to introduce the Kantemirov and Taman Guards divisions to Kiev, and on the Bug and Vistula to take the line to our Guards airborne divisions, with the task of holding out until the approach of our Siberian and Far Eastern divisions? I see no other option reach an agreement and to ensure the admission of voters to the ballot boxes and the disarmament of the enemy to the points of temporary deployment of prisoners of war.

[bald]

Their mandate covers only Russia, where, in essence, they do nothing to them. But in Ukraine - their direct responsibility. The main goal of the OSCE is “... to prevent the emergence of conflicts in the region, resolve crisis situations, and eliminate the consequences of conflicts.” With intent, a lazy OSCE day.

[loginovich]

Election of the President of the Russian Federation: people are not allowed to enter the precinct in the Consulate General under the pretext of mining (updated)
http://timer-odessa.net/news/vibori_prezidenta_rf
_na_uchastok_v_genkonsulstve_lyudey_ne_puskayut_p
od_predlogom_minirovaniya_789.html

[Antares]

Quote: loginovich

people are not allowed to the site in the Consulate General under the pretext of mining (updated)

there was a call, checked pretty quickly. But they didn’t let him go before and after. All who wanted to vote ahead of schedule and one went under the Russian anthem today ... would find out who it is.

[Wolka]

and why do we need then the OSCE with its human rights and other "democracy" ...

[iscander]

That is, a "civilized and humane" Europe washed its hands, such as - "figure it out yourself!".

But let’s imagine if Russia would have done something like this with any country - what a howl and high would rise to the whole world from these "democrats"!

Although of course - no double standards!

West - he is such a "West"!

[svp67]

Due to the lack of international standards or agreements on ensuring voting in foreign elections, I think that such voting processes are determined by bilateral agreements between the two participating countries (Russia and Ukraine),

And why then is the OSCE needed if it IS NOT ABLE to solve something there within the framework of its organization, in the country that is part of this organization .... Here we can run into our elections, and here, excuse me, we didn’t "smash"

[krasnyiy.partizan]

I wish all adherents of the sect of the fraternal Ukrainian people to feel their love in their own skin! And do not whine about the deceived and frightened residents of the Nenki, whom the damned Americans deceived into shouting "Muscovites on knives!", Throwing feces at the Russian diplomatic institutions, prohibiting the Russian language and killing dissenters. These censored do everything quite consciously, so there should be no remorse for pilots of the Russian Air Force ...

PS I am Russian!

[Dezinto]

I was expecting such videos, and they actually rained down,
and only one thought - .... how did they check at the end! Well, really adult people do like garbage! I just don’t understand! Watch either nauseous or funny.
The courts grew. shoby-toba and we’ll sleep, sorry I couldn’t listen to the end .... I really like this "beautiful and flowing tongue" especially performed by bearded degenerates. ! I came to learn because I got carried away with politics - but I’m more humble from this language than from Chinese!
AND! inspected, - "covered with blood" ....... where? there nafig in the Crimea even drops droplets !?

Putin really is the most important there!

[Antares]

Quote: DEZINTO

such videos

Shary informational napalm situation as usual.
And usually he is right.

[iaroslav.mudryi]

Quote: krasnyiy.partizan

... These censored are doing everything quite consciously, so there should not be any remorse for pilots of the Russian Air Force ...

... but the pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force began a strong remorse -
URGENT NEWS from Colonel Kassad (COLONELCASSAD):
Ends in the water

In Nikolaev the pilot Vladislav Voloshin shot himself, who was accused that his Malaysian Boeing shot down his Su-25 https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3512242.htm
l.
Allegedly "committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest with a Makarov pistol." Before his death, Voloshin led the Nikolaev airport.
When he quit his job last summer, he ended his message to colleagues at https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3533633.htm
l with the phrase "we will live." With the "live" did not work out.
Whether he himself laid hands on himself under the weight of the crimes committed or whether they helped him, we will learn over time.
Other participants in the Ukrainian provocation with the Boeing should think about it - obviously not only everyone will survive, few will be able to do it.
source: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com

[krasnyiy.partizan]

The reptile who bombed the civilians of Lugansk died!

[Antares]

Quote: krasnyiy.partizan

brotherly Ukrainian people

Russian and Ukrainian nationalists are very similar ..
then they are together in the PMR, then they are against each other in the ORDILO ..
By the way, almost all nationalist organizations came to the installation, I did not even know that there are so many names ..

[Des10]

OSCE is impotent.

[astepanov]

In fact, Ukraine blocked the entry of Russian citizens into Russian diplomatic missions on its territory. This means a blockade of embassies. Isn’t it time to break off diplomatic relations with this bastard? How much can you fuss? Spit in the face - just wipe ourselves off.

[jovanni]

Our observation mandate covers only the voting process in Russia,
added Rymer.

The children's joke was remembered. Vasily Ivanovich and Petka arrived at the congress of soldiers' deputies, and they decided to proceed to the buffet first. And there Kotovsky was at the door, and so sternly said to them: “Mandates!” Well, Vasily Ivanovich was taken aback, first, and then he barked: - "This is who M ..., it's me M ..? Yes, look at yourself! And if you, for example, chop off your ears with a sword, then generally ... you will be like! "
Not afraid to see this rimer behind his ears ...

[gm9019]

These are real Judas! Just for a second, to imagine that we wouldn’t be allowed here to vote Ukrainians for their president, what would start! What a high rise!
It is from this impunity that they become impudent, and it will be even worse ..

[tuts]

that is, if something is needed from Russia, then you must the world community and all that, and if from Ukraine then you yourself agree

[tochila]

These ENEMIES WITHOUT BORDERS have already been pulled up !!! When do we start to respond in Russian? By the very tomatoes !!! I’ll immediately turn to the draft board !!

[Zomanus]

In short, they sent us. Which is quite predictable.
Although I’m sure that Russia does not provide an opportunity
Ukrainians vote on their territory on the day of the election of the President of Ukraine,
we would have been kicked by the whole world for a long time and would have been introduced 100500 sanctions against us.

[eugraphus]

The key to success - stay away from losers.
Ukrainian losers, fighting with Russia, helped Putin. The Russians living under the Bandera regime, in fact, measured off with this state of affairs in Ukraine. Moreover, they do not blame themselves or even the Ukrainian authorities for their failures and difficulties, they consider Russia and Putin personally to blame for everything. And they would vote, another question, for whom. Most likely for Yavlinsky or Sobchak. The diplomatic workers naturally naturally for the most part vote for power, for Putin. There you have it, the Ukrainian authorities cut off dissatisfied Putin from participating in the elections, leaving only those who are guaranteed to vote for Putin.
The calculation that Russia will respond in the same way will prohibit the voting of Ukrainians in Ukrainian missions in Russia. And these figures are completely different. There are an order of magnitude more Ukrainians in Russia than there are Russians in Ukraine. And the bulk of them are unlikely to vote for Bandera. It turns out to be beneficial for Russia so that Ukrainians in Russia have the opportunity to vote. Beneficial for any result. Even if suddenly something connects and everyone votes for Bandera, well, no question, the degradation process will go faster.

[-ш-]

what for then this sharaga is necessary?

[Pacifist]

Those. as soon as something is not to their liking, that "a flagrant violation of international law! fundamental human rights have been violated! the international community must firmly respond to the violation of rights and freedoms!". And then, directly, brazenly, are all these norms violated and "decide for yourself"? Messrs. from the OSCE - hypocritical creatures. Useless bunch of alternative sexually oriented dumbasses.

[Siberian]

Logically, the elections in Crimea should not worry the Pindohalifat collection. We just wanted it