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Poisonous gallery

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Do we know that the Russian army experienced the first chemical attack of the enemy a dozen years before we were aware of the facts related to history World War I - in December 1904, during the December storming of Port Arthur by the Japanese army?


Fort Port No. 2 was very important in the Port Arthur fortification system. Therefore, in early December 1904, the Japanese army made a number of attempts to seize this fortification, using all available means. Along with other species weapons Japanese use and chemical warfare agents. In the morning of December 2 (15) of 1904, in the outer pit of the fort number 2 occupied by the Japanese, Russian observers noticed a suspicious movement.

Poisonous gallery

Fort No. 2.

At 15 hours of the day, the Japanese lit a fort in the counterscarp gallery of the fort number 2, impregnated with a poisonous substance, giving asphyxiated gases during combustion. Gases through loopholes began to penetrate into the part of the gallery occupied by the Russians.

Russian troops were forced to retreat to 40 steps - for the next defensive traverse. The plot they left was immediately occupied by the Japanese.

Attempts by the Japanese to capture the traverse were repulsed by hand grenades. Then the Japanese again began to use poisonous substances (arsenic compounds) of the suffocating effect - and the Russians were forced to leave the gallery. Russian fighters, in order to show the Japanese that the gallery was not abandoned, took turns rushing into it and, having fired a shot at the traverse of the traverse, again ran away, giving way to others.


Fort Gallery.

These facts were reported to the head of the eastern defense front of Port Arthur, Major General V. N. Gorbatovsky, who, after checking the report, and 18 45 minutes of hours reported to the headquarters of the fortress: “In the counterscarp gallery on the fort No. 2, the Japanese set fire to their front the traverse felt and tags filled with the composition that give stifling gases during combustion, which made the gallery defenders move back for the next traverse, i.e., almost 40 steps back, where we are now. Several times the Japanese tried to run up to this traverse, but were driven away by the bombs of our shooters, led by sergeant-major of the 12 th company of the 26 th regiment Kornienko. Following this, the Japanese set fire to some arsenic compounds, in which the child was almost impossible to stay, had to change people in 2 - 3 minutes, and Lieutenant 26 regiment Sinkovich was taken to the hospital of the poisoned and unconscious. Currently, the gases are somewhat scattered. If the Japanese managed to capture the whole gallery, I consider it best to blow up the area we occupy. ”

The report of V.N. Gorbatovsky was recorded in a review of military operations near Port Arthur: “To drive us out of the counter-escalarp gallery to fort number 2, where we held very hard, the Japanese began pumping suffocating gases into the gallery, why were sentinels standing at the embrasure, towards the Japanese side, I had to change every 2 - 3 minutes. ”

On 3 hours of 3 (16) on December 1904, the Japanese forces once again tried to capture Fort XRUMX’s counter-scarp gallery with toxic agents, but the commandant of the fort ordered to open the rear opening of the gallery - a draft was formed that cleared the gallery of accumulated gases. In the afternoon, the Japanese once again, unsuccessfully, tried to use toxic substances. This fact was reported to the headquarters of Port Arthur: “In the afternoon, the enemy fired artillery fire from a lit. B to strengthen number 2. At the fort number 3, the Japanese again lit the felt in the counterscarp gallery and smoked out the defenders of this gallery. ”

As a result of the use of poisonous substances and because of the destruction of the fortifications with artillery fire, the Russians ordered the 5 fort No. 18 on the orders of the Chief of the Port Arthur ground defense chief, Major General A.V. Fock 1904 (2) in December X. X.

Thus, it can be considered as documented that during 2 (15) and 3 (16) December 1904, the Japanese army at Port Arthur repeatedly used war toxic agents. But even they could not break the Russian soldier - and the fortifications were left in accordance with the order of the command.
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  1. Streletskos
    Streletskos 22 March 2018 06: 53
    +18
    Very interesting fact
    Russian fighter held in any situation
    1. Cheburator
      Cheburator 22 March 2018 08: 40
      +18
      Very interesting fact

      That yes
      Russian fighter held on in any situation

      That's why he is Russian
  2. XII Legion
    XII Legion 22 March 2018 07: 02
    +20
    Interesting little-known fact
    Defenseless gallery defenders of fort No. 2 faced with new weapons
    And they survived.
    Competently acted and command
    Thank you!
    1. Cheburator
      Cheburator 22 March 2018 08: 39
      +18
      That's right.
      You are absolutely right
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 22 March 2018 09: 07
      +3
      Quote: XII Legion
      Defenseless gallery defenders of Fort No. 2 encountered new weapons

      But whether it was "fighting poisonous substance "?
      Rather, they were gases that were NOT fatal, because no one died and:
      The site they left was immediately busy with the Japanese ..

      If "immediately", then OB was clearly not fatal.

      According to the Hague Conventions of 1899, 1907, BOV were also prohibited. adhered to of these provisions even in WWI, even Germany-until April 1915.

      And here are the tear non-lethal Gases were also used in 1914, shopping mall. they were not banned
      1. Cheburator
        Cheburator 22 March 2018 09: 13
        +18
        The document is talking about arsenic compounds
        People fainted
        And in WWII also OM were for various purposes.
        And since they were used for military purposes - and not in order to poison prisoners, for example
        Hence BATTLE
        In any case, the reflection of the chemical attack, whatever one may say
        1. XII Legion
          XII Legion 22 March 2018 09: 34
          +17
          And in WWII also OM were for various purposes.

          Yes you are right.
          Yes, and some classifications of OM were based on what period of time is needed for the affected person to be neutralized from OM.
          Mustard lasted longer (for 2-3 days, even in warm weather, and when it is cold and damp - up to 7-10 or more days, depending on the temperature drop), other OM - less. Depending on tactical expediency.
          For example, in 1916-1917, Russian gunners received chemical shells that were equipped with a mixture of chloropicrin and sulfuryl chloride and colgite (a mixture of phosgene and chlorine tin). The manual recommended that the areas fired by these shells be taken no earlier than 15 to 20 minutes after the ceasefire. That is practically immediately.
          1. Some kind of compote
            Some kind of compote 22 March 2018 11: 43
            +17
            XII Legion
            The manual recommended that the areas fired by these shells be taken no earlier than 15 to 20 minutes after the ceasefire. That is, almost immediately.

            Yes, in a battle of 15-20 minutes this is actually "immediately."
            If the substance allowed, the area was occupied. And without chemical protection.
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 22 March 2018 09: 52
          +2
          Quote: Cheburator
          People fainted

          But they did NOT die.
          Quote: Cheburator
          And since they were used for military purposes - and not in order to to poison prisoners BATTLE for example

          that is, Auschwitz “Cyclone B”, according to your logic, is not a combat agent?
          Be that as it may, the use of imprite in April 1915although non-lethal gases were used much earlier -in 1914 city
          Quote: Cheburator
          In any case, the reflection of the chemical attack, whatever one may say

          That yes hi
          1. Cheburator
            Cheburator 22 March 2018 10: 13
            +17
            But they did NOT die.

            Well, I wrote to you - that OMs were also used differently in WWI. According to the classification of OM DIFFERENT.
            To be a BATTLE OF - it is not necessary to die.
            Strongly poisonous substances (for example, hydrocyanic acid, carbon monoxide) cause immediate death - as they said in those years “from suffocation”. Others (chlorine, phosgene, diphosgene) - cause various degrees of damage to the respiratory system up to pulmonary edema. A number of other fighting gases incapacitated a soldier for a certain period of time: tear gases (iodide and bromide benzyl and xylyl, chloropicrin, bromobenzyl cyanide, etc.), mustard gas, arsines (irritating the nasal mucosa).
            1. Cheburator
              Cheburator 22 March 2018 10: 15
              +17
              Olgovich
              the use of imprite in April 1915 is considered the beginning of a chemical war in the WWI

              The beginning of the chemical war in WWI - yes.
              But the case of the use of BATTLE OM is not the first as we see.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 22 March 2018 12: 28
                +2
                Quote: Cheburator
                But the case of the use of combat agents - Not the first as we see.

                Один из first famous is 3rd century BC.- during the siege of the city of Dur, the Persians in the tunnels poisoned the Romans with lit sulfur and bitumen-20 corpses were found by archaeologists with respectively. traces of
                1. naidas
                  naidas 24 March 2018 17: 42
                  0
                  Spartans during the war with the Athenians (431–404 tt. BC)
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 22 March 2018 12: 24
              +2
              Quote: Cheburator
              Well, I wrote to you - that OMs were also used differently in WWI. According to the classification of OM DIFFERENT

              According to the Hague Conventions, only agents causing human death.
              Therefore, the use of non-lethal gases to April 1915 (first mustard gas) and was not considered chemical warfare.
              I tried to draw attention to this difference.
              You are certainly right in the fact that, by definition, combat agents are, including temporarily incapacitating an adversary hi
              1. Cheburator
                Cheburator 22 March 2018 14: 32
                +16
                One of the first known is the 3rd century BC - during the siege of the city of Dur, the Persians in the tunnels poisoned the Romans with lit sulfur and bitumen-20 corpses were found by archaeologists with respectively. traces of

                So we are talking about the first experience of the Russian army.
                Therefore, the use of non-lethal gases until April 1915 (first mustard gas) was not considered chemical warfare.

                Yes, are you dear Olgovich, the Lord is with you.
                In April 1915, chlorine was used.
                FIRST PRIET - 1917.
                After all, a lot of articles were published - and in VO including, these are widely known facts.
                It is time.
                According to the Hague Conventions, only agents causing the death of a person were banned.

                Therefore, the Germans used the GAS-CYLINDER method in 1915, because it was forbidden to use OM in ammunition.
                Well, then - they waved a hand.
                And to combat toxic substances are temporarily disabled. This is the classification.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 22 March 2018 16: 19
                  +2
                  Quote: Cheburator
                  So we are talking about the first experience of the Russian army.

                  If the first use against the Russian army, then it was during the Sevastopol defense in 1854. .
                  Quote: Cheburator
                  In April 1915, chlorine was used.

                  Under the city IPROM applied (like mustard gas). Hence the typo, the Lord is with you.
                  Quote: Cheburator
                  Therefore, the Germans used the GAS-CYLINDER method in 1915, because it was forbidden to use OM in ammunition.

                  Gas is also an ammunition. Ammunition (ammunition), a component of weapons and military equipment, directly designed to destroy manpower and / or weapons. And what is it delivered with a shell or a cylinder, what's the difference? No one accepted the German explanation.
                  Quote: Cheburator
                  And chemical warfare agents are also temporarily incapacitating. This is the classification.

                  I wrote two hours ago:
                  Olgovich (Andrey) 4 Today, 12:24 ↑
                  by definition, fighting are, inter alia, and OV, temporarily incapacitating the enemy
                  1. Cheburator
                    Cheburator 22 March 2018 16: 26
                    +16
                    Okay Olgovich
                    I will not argue with you
                    Let there be a typo about chlorine and mustard gas. Also, probably a typo and about the year - 1915 and 1917. Everyone happens.
                    Under Sevastopol WANTED to apply OV.
                    Gas is also an ammunition. Ammunition (ammunition), a component of weapons and military equipment, specifically designed to engage manpower and / or weapons. And what is it delivered with a shell or a cylinder, what's the difference? No one accepted the German explanation.

                    Of course I didn’t accept the explanation and then the gas war unfolded to its fullest .. But because gas from the cylinders was then released for the first time, then at that time it was still not considered ammunition. At least that’s how the Germans tried to get around the convention.
                    Thank you for your communication. hi
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 22 March 2018 16: 47
                      +3
                      Quote: Cheburator
                      Let there be a typo about chlorine and mustard gas. Also, probably a typo and about the year - 1915 and 1917.

                      I have indicated the year (1915) correctly, in connection with the generally accepted time of the beginning of the chemical war in the WWI in April 1915, where is the typo? . And this attack by lethal gas occurred near the city of IPR, and therefore wrote automatically "mustard gas.
                      Quote: Cheburator
                      But since gas from the cylinders was then released for the first time, then at that time it was still not considered ammunition.

                      Only the Germans and was not considered, and the rest, very even considered.
                      Quote: Cheburator
                      Thank you for your communication.

                      Best regards hi
                      1. Cheburator
                        Cheburator 22 March 2018 16: 52
                        +16
                        Clear drinks
                        Best regards hi
  3. antivirus
    antivirus 22 March 2018 07: 55
    +2
    nothing is eternal under the Moon
  4. Victor_B
    Victor_B 22 March 2018 08: 15
    +2
    Yeah ...
    Live and learn...
    In fact, it was customary to believe that the Russo-Japanese war was the last to which the laws and customs of war were observed (in general). A kind of "gentleman" (God forgive me!) Unwritten agreement. By the way, they were quite written. For example, the treatment of prisoners.
  5. nivander
    nivander 22 March 2018 08: 27
    +4
    during the siege of Breda (1624), the Spaniards lit sulfur and feathers and with the help of furs pumped into the galleries of the Dutch. Marshal Türren ordered the burning of cinnabar and blowing of the mercury vapor formed in the British gallery during the siege of Tournai
  6. Cheburator
    Cheburator 22 March 2018 08: 38
    +20
    Already in the era of antiquity, in the Middle Ages and in modern times, there were attempts to combat the use of various substances (sulfur, resin, nitrate, vegetable oils, raw wood and just straw). In 1855, the British command considered a project to destroy the garrison of Sevastopol using sulfur dioxide. Substances such as chlorine and phosgene were already known in the 1885th century .; diphenylchloroarsin was discovered in 1888, and the famous mustard gas (mustard gas) was first obtained (in unclean form) and described in XNUMX.
    But the Russian soldier experienced the first chemical blow in Port Arthur.
    Interesting information.
  7. Lieutenant Teterin
    Lieutenant Teterin 22 March 2018 10: 42
    +6
    Interesting article. I did not know anything about the use of sending substances by the Japanese. The author - my heartfelt gratitude for the work done!
  8. Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha 22 March 2018 10: 58
    +5
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: XII Legion
    Defenseless gallery defenders of Fort No. 2 encountered new weapons

    But whether it was "fighting poisonous substance "?
    Rather, they were gases that were NOT fatal, because no one died and:
    The site they left was immediately busy with the Japanese ..

    If "immediately", then OB was clearly not fatal.

    According to the Hague Conventions of 1899, 1907, BOV were also prohibited. adhered to of these provisions even in WWI, even Germany-until April 1915.

    And here are the tear non-lethal Gases were also used in 1914, shopping mall. they were not banned

    And you try to breathe this muck for a long time without any means of protection. The fact that the Japanese immediately took these positions suggests that they had these means.
    1. saigon
      saigon 22 March 2018 17: 20
      +2
      Yes, the Japanese didn’t have a damn from the word at all, but they didn’t cherish the soldiers at all.
      They did not have mosquito nets in the WWII in the tropics, there was no tropical uniform, what can we say about 1905.
    2. naidas
      naidas 24 March 2018 17: 44
      0
      The reasons why the Japanese failed to achieve significant results when using asphyxiating gases are the low effectiveness of toxic substances and the lack of protective equipment. Using gases, they also suffered losses from poisoning. Poisoning substances found in the forts' concrete structures and in the underground galleries prevented both the Japanese and Russian soldiers from conducting hostilities.
  9. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 22 March 2018 11: 37
    +17
    It’s amazing.
    An interesting episode of the REV.
    Thanks, great good
  10. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 22 March 2018 12: 28
    +3
    Author plus! We give them mortars, and they give us OV. Very Japanese-Asian!
  11. Black joe
    Black joe 22 March 2018 14: 41
    +2
    Thanks to the author for the article introducing interesting new facts.
    It is as it should be
    hi
  12. Monarchist
    Monarchist 22 March 2018 17: 39
    +1
    Actually, for the first time, chemical weapons against Russians were used even earlier: in 1854 during the Crimean War. The English fired several bombs equipped with a poisonous substance.
    This can be read from Shirokorad: "The miracle weapon of the Russian Empire."
    1. Cheburator
      Cheburator 22 March 2018 17: 54
      +16
      Generally respected Monarchist
      There is basic work on chemical weapons
      Here's a

      And it says there. S. 14.
      The first attempt at the combat use of chemicals by the bourgeois armies in the era closest to us dates back to 1855. The English engineer D'Endonald, who studied sulfur smelting, suggested that the British-French command take Sevastopol by poisoning the garrison with sulfur dioxide. On August 7, 1855, this project was approved by the British government, but the capture of the Allied forces by storm of the Malakhov Kurgan and the fall of Sevastopol left this project without implementation.

      So here it is -
      for the first time, chemical weapons against Russians were used even earlier: in 1854 during the Crimean War. The English fired several bombs equipped with a poisonous substance.
      - NOT TRUE
      1. Brutan
        Brutan 22 March 2018 18: 05
        +3
        Yes, the author of the article managed to establish the first case of Russian troops in chemical conditions.
        Great, interesting, thanks
  13. Declarant
    Declarant 24 March 2018 08: 47
    0
    The Germans during WWII were also going to use CW. But our partisans managed to steal chemical ammunition. It was stated that then we will use chemical weapons in bombing German cities. Hitler immediately changed his mind.
    1. naidas
      naidas 24 March 2018 17: 48
      0
      Against the Adzhimushkais - a special case in World War II 1942 (Crimea) - the Germans used poisonous gases.