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The United States sent to Europe "Avengers"

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The US Department of Defense sent the first batch of self-propelled short-range anti-aircraft missile systems Avenger AN / TWQ-1 (Avenger) to Europe, reports "Warspot" with reference to the portal armyrecognition.com.


The United States sent to Europe "Avengers"


Air defense systems Avenger AN / TWQ-1 were developed in 80-s and represent the army off-road vehicle HMMWV in the pick-up version, in the back of which is located a turntable with a mounted anti-aircraft missile system consisting of two launchers, totaling eight FIM- missiles 92 Stinger. Recently, the complex is almost never used by the American army. Combat vehicles for Europe were removed from storage in one of the military units in Pennsylvania, where they were awaiting disposal.

To modernize the complexes in 2017, the US Army successfully tested a new version of Stinger MANPADS with a contactless fuse. During the tests, the military launched two Stinger missiles with the M1097 Avenger on MQM-170C Outlaw target drones and successfully hit them.

The European Command of the American Army, EUCOM (United States European Command), requested the Avenger 72. The first batch in the number of 36 machines has already gone to Europe, the second completes the passage of the re-entry and modernization.
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  1. AlexYa
    AlexYa 17 March 2018 18: 43
    +11
    Right now vparit sodomites at the price of weapons "Doomsday".
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 17 March 2018 18: 47
      +16
      Avenging Avengers will be terrible wassat
      Read TTX FIM-92 Stinger:
      Maximum range: 4,8 - 8 km .:
      Maximum target height: 3,8 km;
      Maximum / average speed: 750 / 700 m / s (2,2 / 2,06 M).
      Helicopters will be able to shoot down, attack aircraft "gaping" or descending below 4000 meters.
      Su-25 Major Roman Filipov in the sky of the Syrian Idlib, with a high degree of probability was shot down by the "Stinger".
      Can they prepare for drones? repeat
      Or raise the "fighting" spirit of the Baltic states, they are noble scrap metal collectors laughing
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 17 March 2018 18: 49
        +6
        Fighting vehicles for Europe were removed from storage in a military unit in Pennsylvania, where they were awaiting disposal.

        "God be with you, that we do not care!" USA in its repertoire: disposal was successful. yes
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 17 March 2018 18: 58
        +9
        Andrey K E.hi soldier
        Read TTX FIM-92 Stinger:
        laughing USSR 60s of the last century
        The creation of the Strela-10SV self-propelled air defense missile system (ind. 9К35) began according to the Resolution of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the USSR Council of Ministers on 24.07.1969.
        In times of time! Avenger It's like a Maxim machine gun with a picatinny rail laughing
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 17 March 2018 19: 11
          +15
          Quote: Observer2014
          ... "Avenger" It's like a machine gun, "Maxim" with a picatinny rail ...

          Greetings Sergey hi
          To simplify at all, I would not.
          The stingers that are installed on their "Avengers", at one time in Afghanistan, "heartburn" instilled in us not sickly.
          MANPADS is outdated - but not less dangerous request
          1. The_lancet
            The_lancet 17 March 2018 19: 15
            +10
            MANPADS is outdated - but not less dangerous

            They are powerless against some helicopters laughing
            (Need to watch to the end)
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 17 March 2018 19: 21
            +3
            Andrey K
            The stingers that are installed on their "Avengers", at the time, "heartburn" we were added to Afghanistan is not sickly
            . Here the situation is different. Generally different. When the partisans in the mountains. From the shoulder they shot this one. And then pack those same stingers in the mountains and it would be just a gift for our Air Force. What can you say about all this in modern realities? Yes, it’s just that our armies have different tasks. They keep their troops at all costs. We do. (See my comment below)
            We are not going to change the system in their countries anymore.
            That’s all said. So on the European theater. This is a machine. To put it mildly. Well, in general, very much not relevant. lol
            1. Andrey K
              Andrey K 17 March 2018 19: 31
              +6
              Quote: Observer2014
              ... Well, in general, it is very not relevant. lol

              So I about the machine suggested that in some "young democracies" this scrap metal would be happy yes
            2. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 17 March 2018 20: 45
              +5
              Quote: Observer2014
              So on the European TVD. This is a machine. How to say softer. Well, in general, very much not relevant.

              laughing in vain. How is the Avanter fundamentally different from our Bending or Pine? Yes, nothing - the same MANPADS on a mobile chassis. Before starting, the machine does not detect itself (the radar does not have anything), and there will be a lot of problems for attack aircraft, turntables and UAVs. Mobile chassis - the ability to quickly change position. The thing, though not ultramodern, but no less dangerous. In addition, the missiles themselves are far from obsolete versions.
              1. Observer2014
                Observer2014 17 March 2018 20: 58
                +5
                Grigory_45
                laughing in vain. How is the Avanter fundamentally different from our Bending or Pine? Yes, nothing - the same MANPADS on a mobile chassis
                good drinks laughing wassat Nothing !!!! ??? Ha ha ha. What kind of MANPADS on the "Pine" !!!? Teach materiel hi "Gibka-S." This is a radar. To increase the combat potential of MANPADS !!!!! Do you launch a rocket from the Pine complex from your shoulder? wassat I want to see it!
                1. Grigory_45
                  Grigory_45 17 March 2018 21: 12
                  +5
                  admire)

                  Quote: Observer2014
                  Do you launch a rocket from the Pine complex off your shoulder?

                  Is that all you saw? Sadly .. would have looked at least at the principle of its work and at the affected area. Well, okay, the main thing is that it doesn’t bother you to make fun of mattresses) For "Bending", which is a complete analogue of the "Avenger", and which is still being prepared to receive, will there be no laughter?
                  1. Observer2014
                    Observer2014 17 March 2018 21: 15
                    +2
                    Grigory_45
                    admire)
                    Here it is! This is precisely the Sosna air defense system
                    A complex air defense "Bending" Military Review ● IN
                    Anti-aircraft missile system "Gibka-S"
                    12 September 2016
                2. Grigory_45
                  Grigory_45 17 March 2018 21: 36
                  +5
                  Quote: Observer2014
                  "Gibka-S". This is a radar to increase the combat potential of MANPADS

                  Yeah, the Sentinel mobile radar AN / MPQ-64 for the same purposes can be included in the Avenger. Those. "Bending" is a complete analogue. Irrelevant, but not yet adopted for service?
            3. chingachguc
              chingachguc 18 March 2018 14: 31
              0
              Our "Arrows" and "Pines" are the same packed in a car ... And this is far from a gift. Great confusion is coming, everyone is arming themselves, utilization programs are canceled, obsolete weapons are again at the combat post.
        2. Hiller
          Hiller 17 March 2018 21: 05
          +4
          Well, throwing hats is wrong. And Afghanistan is a confirmation of this. Hard practice. The same General Rutskoi on MiG 25 was shot down by Stinger. For 86-87 years, losses from missiles of about 50 units of our helicopters and aircraft. More than a regiment. Objective for the sake of: not only the Stingers, but also our Arrows from Egypt .. Mattress mattresses from the spirits then bought them back in the 90s for almost 200 thousand dollars per piece.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 17 March 2018 21: 10
            +2
            Hiller
            Well, throwing hats is wrong. And Afghanistan is confirmation of this. Hard practice. For 86-87 years, losses from missiles were about 50 units of our helicopters and aircraft. More than a regiment. Objective for the sake of: not only Stingers, but also our Arrows from Egypt .. Mattress mattresses from the spirits then bought them back in the 90s for almost 200 thousand dollars per piece.
            "Stinger" in the execution of MANPADS is one thing. Packed in the Avenger drindulet is another! Ahhhh. All I have to sleep! Bye everyone. Until tomorrow hi
          2. hohol95
            hohol95 17 March 2018 23: 02
            +3
            If Rutskoi flew on the MiG-25 ... He flew and was shot down twice on the SU-25!
            And the first defeat of SU-25 Rutsky on April 6, 1986 is attributed not to Stinger, but to the Red Eye (MANPADS "Red Eye"). "
            1. Hiller
              Hiller 18 March 2018 11: 50
              0
              "flushed up - it was wrong" .. "an otopyatka"))) of course SU -25, commander of 90 OSHAP .. well, about "Red Ey" or "Stinger". ??? a question for military intelligence ... in general MANPADS .. Shot down twice - lucky,. even met with the Pakistani F-16 pilot, who dumped Rutsky
          3. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 18 March 2018 06: 43
            +2
            Quote: hiller
            The same General Rutskoi on MiG 25 was shot down by Stinger.

            Rutskoi was shot down on a Su-25 (attack aircraft).
            1. Hiller
              Hiller 18 March 2018 11: 56
              +1
              already corrected
        3. Simargl
          Simargl 17 March 2018 21: 15
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          Avenger It's like a Maxim machine gun with a picatinny rail
          There is AK with Picatinny rail!
          And the Avenger is like a Maxim machine gun ... without Picatinny slats!
          ... a dumb joke of humor: any MANPADS is + a problem.
      3. Alexey g
        Alexey g 18 March 2018 00: 14
        +2
        They are dangerous for helicopters, so there isn’t much funny here.
      4. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 18 March 2018 04: 35
        +1
        Quote: Andrey K
        Read TTX FIM-92 Stinger:

        A feature of FIM-92 is the thermal imaging seeker. The missile was developed for use in the Avenger air defense system. I do not know that this version of the Stinger was released in the MANPADS version ...
    2. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 17 March 2018 20: 01
      +3
      In vain you laugh. Any transfer of enemy weapons to our borders, especially in the quantities of tens of units, is not good.
      And the installation itself is an analog of our Bending-S, which is only being adopted for service. She does not fight with small drones due to the fact that she works on optical and thermal imaging channels, but front-line aviation can create a lot of problems. Moreover, since there is no radar from it, no stealth technology and electronic warfare do not interfere with it.
      If obsolete missiles were replaced in it, then the thing is dangerous.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 17 March 2018 22: 53
        0
        Quote: Dreamboat
        In vain you laugh. Any transfer of enemy weapons to our borders, especially in the quantities of tens of units, is not good.

        hi
        Of course it’s not good, given how much has been crammed in previous years.
        1. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 18 March 2018 10: 34
          0
          Only in this and last year hundreds of military vehicles have already been deployed. And all this is not done from good intentions.
      2. chingachguc
        chingachguc 18 March 2018 14: 33
        0
        It is planned to additionally put lasers on the Avangers to combat drones.
    3. Maksus
      Maksus 17 March 2018 22: 26
      0
      The Avenger also has a 30mm gun, this is such a very light version of the Shell.
      1. Dreamboat
        Dreamboat 18 March 2018 10: 35
        0
        Only a Browning machine gun for self-defense ...
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 18 March 2018 16: 03
          0
          Yes, I'm sorry, there really is a machine gun, but it is not only for self-defense, but also for firing at low-speed and unarmored air targets.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 17 March 2018 18: 46
    +3
    The United States sent to Europe "Avengers"
    I take revenge and my revenge is terrible recourse laughingAgainst Iskander, Dagger and other long-range missile nomenclature of Russia is what you need good
    P / S We are not going to change the system in their countries anymore. bully amAnd let's say that it was.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 March 2018 19: 27
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      I take revenge and my revenge is terrible

      The name is absolutely correct. With its range of application, it is unable to protect. Well, on the “revenge” all the same there are chances
    2. chingachguc
      chingachguc 18 March 2018 14: 34
      0
      Avanger in its class is a formidable weapon ... what's the point of comparing horseradish with your finger?
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont 17 March 2018 18: 52
    0
    Scrap metal
  4. Dezinto
    Dezinto 17 March 2018 18: 53
    +4
    I look there, under the hood, each basin has basins, .... does the oil leak from the engine?
    Well it’s clear that there’s not, of course, but it looks funny. And yes, the United States, like England in its repertoire, ...
    the English sold their "Samsons" to dill, the United States sent their most ancient and decommissioned "Humves" ...
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 17 March 2018 18: 53
    +1
    laughing Well, the miracle weapon of the mattress against the "Kanzhalov" is already ready and goes to Geyropu. negative
  6. san4es
    san4es 17 March 2018 18: 59
    +2
    EUCOM (United States European Command) requested 72 Avengers

    Mattresses together with the Romanian air defense units in the exercises on July 19, 2017. The mattresses used their Avenger Mobile Air Defense missile systems to shoot down targeted drones in Capu Midia, Romania. Charlie Battery Unit, 2nd Battalion, 263rd Air Defense Artillery Regiment am

    Jul 2017 year
    1. dog breeder
      dog breeder 17 March 2018 19: 17
      +3
      On the chevrons of hemp, faces smeared with brilliant green ... Bulked?
      1. san4es
        san4es 17 March 2018 19: 24
        +3
        Quote: dog breeder
        On the chevrons of hemp, faces smeared with brilliant green ... Bulked?

        ... together with the Romanian units
        ... - Romanians bully .
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 17 March 2018 19: 34
          +1
          san4es :.
          - romanians
          . laughing wassat
          1. KOMA
            KOMA 18 March 2018 02: 20
            0

            Here they are Romanians, in the Urals, the air defense of the times of the missile systems Berkut. But in height, range and power ...
    2. faiver
      faiver 17 March 2018 19: 34
      0
      so they knocked down cheonite?
    3. Hiller
      Hiller 17 March 2018 20: 52
      0
      some kind of gypsies on mattresses "on the beach by the Russian avenger I’m threatening" and the results of the launches are not visible ... although the appearance is "million in a million" .. greenhouse conditions
  7. poquello
    poquello 17 March 2018 19: 03
    0
    nifiga did not understand, all this evil design to carry 8 missiles?
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 17 March 2018 20: 52
      +3
      Quote: poquello
      all this evil design to carry 8 missiles?

      and another 8 - spare. Recharge in just 4 minutes
      1. poquello
        poquello 17 March 2018 23: 06
        +1
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Quote: poquello
        all this evil design to carry 8 missiles?

        and another 8 - spare. Recharge in just 4 minutes

        Well, in the sense of not in a pencil case ?, so they can still carry a bag on a cart
        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 17 March 2018 23: 42
          +3
          Quote: poquello
          so they can still carry a bag on a cart

          can. And how much TPK should be on the launcher? As much as you can shoot in a short time (for repelling one attack). More missiles - the risk of damage to the TPK by fragments, more dimensions and mass of the rotating part, which is not great. Recharging does not take much time. On the domestic "bending" six missiles hang
          1. poquello
            poquello 18 March 2018 00: 11
            +2
            Quote: Gregory_45
            On the domestic "bending" six missiles hang

            but not how much they hang, how much they hang? bending is much slimmer
  8. ihtamnet
    ihtamnet 17 March 2018 19: 09
    0
    The first batch of 36 cars has already gone to Europe, the second completes the passage of re-conservation and modernization.
    And what is modernization?
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 17 March 2018 20: 51
      +1
      Quote: ihtamnet
      And what is modernization?

      most likely, but the air defense system's adaptation to the use of new missiles of the FIM-92E Block II type with an all-aspect multi-spectral seeker (IR and UV) that are insensitive to IR traps
      1. ihtamnet
        ihtamnet 17 March 2018 21: 45
        +1
        It turns out a new rocket and already used PU. But did the Amer’s Stinger also be withdrawn from service as MANPADS or was it just Avenger that was removed from service? Or not removed and just canned?
        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 17 March 2018 22: 01
          +3
          Quote: ihtamnet
          A Stinger amers also withdrawn from service

          "Stingers" no one took off weapons. They especially did not use them - there was no enemy. More recently, the U.S. Army has begun training MANPADS operators again.
          “Avengers” at one time tried to merge into storage tanks, they were replaced by a more expensive, but advanced ADATS, but he never entered service. The Avengers regularly serve in the United States. Americans in general have always been rather careless in providing their own military air defense, relying more on aviation. Now ancient machines have been extracted from under the naphthalene layer. They have no short-range air defense systems in Europe
          1. chingachguc
            chingachguc 18 March 2018 14: 38
            0
            The Americans of all means of land defense only Stingers, Avangers and Patriots. And that’s it. Their air defense is relatively weak, with an emphasis on aviation. Like, the planes will protect them. What I'm personally not sure about.
            1. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 18 March 2018 15: 03
              0
              Quote: chingachguc
              Of all the means of ground defense, Americans have only Stingers, Avangers and Patriots

              There are still a small number of NASAMS. But in general, you are right, they rely on aviation specifically. And the land phase should, according to their concept, begin only when complete domination in the sky is established. In the case of UAVs, they flew a little
              1. chingachguc
                chingachguc 18 March 2018 15: 11
                0
                This, by the way, is an offensive doctrine. In my opinion, they don’t have a defensive one at all. And this is their big minus.
  9. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 17 March 2018 19: 09
    +1
    Fighting vehicles for Europe were removed from storage in a military unit in Pennsylvania, where they were awaiting disposal.
    The mattresses thought - "Why should the good disappear when you can put this rubbish on to terriers, ie NATO partners, for quite real money? In vain do they unfasten 2% of GDP)))
    1. faiver
      faiver 17 March 2018 19: 35
      0
      recycling also costs money, but here such luck :)
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic 17 March 2018 19: 31
    0
    They waited, and apparently waited for recycling, but not the same as they thought in the United States! lol
  11. Graz
    Graz 17 March 2018 19: 51
    0
    go to the Balts, the British intelligence tanks Skimitar of the 70s produced 600 bucks for 000 pc.
  12. Varna
    Varna 17 March 2018 20: 22
    0
    Judging by the bowls under the crankcase - this is really old, unnecessary trash
  13. A.
    A. 17 March 2018 20: 33
    +1
    Quote: Herkulesich
    They waited, and apparently waited for recycling, but not the same as they thought in the United States! lol

    Recently, nine commandos, their dealers, were disposed of in plastic bags in Syria, a trifle, but nice. Keep it up. A little earlier, a plane with two pilots disappeared - this is nothing at all. But the positive trend is encouraging.
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    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 17 March 2018 22: 40
      +1
      Are there speech therapists in the usa? winked
      1. Fox
        Fox 18 March 2018 08: 23
        +1
        Quote: Captive
        And there are speech therapists in the usa

        people from different countries are sitting on the site ... and not everyone in the school taught Russian. Some people learn it themselves and, in general, it’s clear that they write. hi
  15. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 March 2018 22: 39
    0
    Is that how they avenged their European partners? winked
  16. General70
    General70 17 March 2018 22: 44
    +2
    Interestingly, but nothing more serious mattresses could not send something? lol lol lol
    1. chingachguc
      chingachguc 18 March 2018 14: 39
      0
      on combat alert after a week they will catch up, so be it))
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 March 2018 00: 31
    +1
    I won’t be surprised if the cars end up in Syria or Ukraine.
    It’s already taken so seriously for us,
    fit to talk about preparing for an attack
    to our troops.
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  19. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 18 March 2018 07: 00
    0
    Quote: DEZINTO
    I look there, under the hood, each basin has basins, .... does the oil leak from the engine?

    Technique with conservation. For a long downtime, engine oil partially loses its properties. As a result, it is recommended to change the oil in order to increase engine life. In the process of changing the oil, the oil filter always changes, and oil inevitably flows from the filter. In order not to stain the site, they put a pan under the filter ... As I understand it, you do not have your own car.
  20. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 18 March 2018 07: 21
    +1
    Quote: Varna
    Judging by the bowls under the crankcase - this is really old, unnecessary trash

    Another ... Have you ever changed engine oil yourself? When you make money on your first live, amazing discoveries await you ...
  21. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 18 March 2018 07: 24
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    "Why goodness disappear when you can vparit this trash terpilyah ie NATO partners,

    Oh God ... What are the partners? This is for the American army in Europe ...
  22. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 18 March 2018 13: 33
    0
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Quote: Andrey K
    Read TTX FIM-92 Stinger:

    A feature of FIM-92 is the thermal imaging seeker. The missile was developed for use in the Avenger air defense system. I do not know that this version of the Stinger was released in the MANPADS version ...


    This refers to the IR GOS, the translation is incorrect
  23. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 18 March 2018 13: 50
    0
    Quote: Andrey K
    Avenging Avengers will be terrible wassat
    Read TTX FIM-92 Stinger:
    Maximum range: 4,8 - 8 km .:
    Maximum target height: 3,8 km;
    Maximum / average speed: 750/700 m / s (2,2 / 2,06)


    Wrong TTX from you. If you take it from Wikipedia, then there is an incorrect translation. In reality, TTX is more modest. Range 4 km, height 3.
    Those who translated had a level of knowledge of the English language of elementary school, plus complete ignorance of military terminology. Rank means the range of application, not the range. Roughly speaking, the diameter of the circle in which you can hit the target.
    Here is part of the original:
    Specifications

    Primary function To provide close-in, surface-to-air weapons for the defense of forward combat areas, vital areas and installations against low altitude air attacks.
    Manufacturer Prime - Hughes Missile System Company
    Missile - General Dynamics / Raytheon Corporation
    Propulsion Dual thrust solid fuel rocket motor
    Length 5 feet (1.5 meters)
    Width 5.5 inches (13.96 centimeters)
    Weight 12.5 pounds (5.68 kilograms)
    Weight fully armed 34.5 pounds (15.66 kg)
    Maximum system span 3.6 inches (9.14 cm)
    Range 1 to 8 kilometers
    Light ring 10 mils
    Fuzing penetration, impact, self destruct
    Ceiling 10,000 feet (3.046 kilometers)
    Speed ​​Supersonic in flight
    USMC Units Low-Altitude Air Defense (LAAD) Battalions: 3 active duty, 2 reserve
    Crew 2 enlisted
    Guidance system Fire-and-forget passive infrared seeker
    Warheads high explosive
    Rate of fire 1 missile every 3 to 7 seconds
    Type of fire "Fire-and-Forget"
    Sensors passive infrared
    Introduction date 1987
    Full-rate production 3QFY94
    Unit Replacement Cost $ 38,000
    Total program cost (TY $) 1060 systems $ 7281M
    Average unit cost (TY $) $ 6M
    Inventory ~ 13,400 missiles

    In short Range 1-8 km means that the range is from 500 m to 4 km on both sides of the arrow. If you explain in simple terms.
    You can see that the height is 10000 feet, i.e. 3,046 km. It is indicated here as Ceiling, i.e. translated as Ceiling or ceiling level
  24. gukoyan
    gukoyan 19 March 2018 08: 09
    0
    Wow ... Until today, I did not even know about such a modification.