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Armored Car "Tiger" will receive new modifications

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In addition to the existing 30 versions of the Tigr armored car, new modifications will soon be added, said Alexander Krasovitsky, general director of Military Industrial Company (“VPK”).


Armored Car "Tiger" will receive new modifications


Work is underway that is at a different stage of readiness, to create a whole range of special machines on the Tiger chassis - these are command and staff vehicles, control vehicles, EW machines, space communications, radiation and chemical reconnaissance, the Gibka -With "and 120-mm Highlander" self-propelled mortar, service reconnaissance vehicle and many others
- said Krasovitsky.

He also said that recently the "MIC" was created armored medical machine "Tiger" BMA with an increased armored volume and installed medical equipment, providing medical assistance in the movement of four wounded at once. The same machine is offered as a chassis for command and staff vehicles and hardware communication vehicles.

In addition, the issue of the production of the Tigger with a 30 caliber mm gun is being studied.



As for the fate of the "Tiger" with the 30-mm cannon, I would say that we have created a prototype of an operating sample, and test shooting was carried out. A number of structures showed interest in the car, currently there is a negotiation process and preparation of the necessary documents for further work
- said the general director of "MIC".
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  1. Vard
    Vard 17 March 2018 16: 08
    +2
    The car is good ... but ... it's still a car ... and turn it into a tank, you need to think carefully ...
    1. Fedor egoist
      Fedor egoist 17 March 2018 16: 14
      +9
      Quote: Vard
      turn it into a tank, you need to think carefully

      If you think about it, a car with a 30mm autocannon is never a tank or even an armored personnel carrier. But how easy ZSU for working on drones, the destruction of jihadmobiles and weakly protected firing points - that's it.
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      2. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 17 March 2018 19: 55
        +3
        Quote: Fedor Egoist
        But how easy ZSU for working on drones, the destruction of jihadmobiles and weakly protected firing points - that's it.

        as a ZSU, this machine is completely nonexistent. Starting with the fact that it does not have any means of detection, and ending with the fact that of all the means of guidance - a simple sight. I'm afraid that to bring down the mini-UAV, even from its place, the entire BC will not be enough. Pampering is
        1. Dedall
          Dedall 18 March 2018 11: 17
          +1
          That's right, comrade, say it! I remember that I once shot at the final of the KPVT at BRDM-2 degrees by 60 in the direction of movement. So the buildup was such, it didn’t hit, but directly in the movement from the first stage.
      3. Doliva63
        Doliva63 17 March 2018 19: 59
        +4
        And the unforgettable Terminator then why?
      4. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 March 2018 20: 52
        +1
        It’s good in the city to work on floors, if the gun rises normally ...
      5. the most important
        the most important 17 March 2018 23: 39
        +4
        Quote: Fedor Egoist
        Fedor Egoist (Fedor) Today, 16:14 ↑ New
        Quote: Vard
        turn it into a tank, you need to think carefully
        If you think about it, a car with a 30mm autocannon is never a tank or even an armored personnel carrier. But how easy ZSU for working on drones, the destruction of jihadmobiles and weakly protected firing points - that's it.

        But in the city traffic jams to disperse it generally no price !!
        1. mac789
          mac789 18 March 2018 10: 12
          0
          Do not disperse traffic jams, but shoot down cameras from poles ... And of course, bring up tow trucks ... Otherwise they built humane men without parking lots, and now cars from yards dig at the creatures at night. And so modestly you drive up and so peacefully ask: What are you doing here? - Putting thirty gauge on the platoon. laughing
    2. user1212
      user1212 17 March 2018 16: 18
      +7
      Quote: Vard
      and turn it into a tank, you need to think carefully ...

      Each departmental "special forces" commander, who divorced like dirt, wants a tank for himself
    3. Grenader
      Grenader 17 March 2018 17: 49
      +4
      The tiger is primarily good as a platform. Compared with the American HMMWV, its functionality is much wider. In general, a rather successful military vehicle turned out. And you can turn it into anything, depending on the tasks.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 17 March 2018 18: 19
        +2
        Quote: Grenader
        The tiger is primarily good as a platform. Compared to American HMMWV

        "Humvee" removed from service. So do not compare with him.
        But compared to what replaces the HMMWV, Oshkosh L-ATV, Tiger, to put it mildly, not very good.
        1. Grenader
          Grenader 17 March 2018 19: 37
          +5
          Oshkosh L-ATV is in a heavier category than the Tiger and it is not correct to compare them. We have similar cars for example KamAZ-52949.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 17 March 2018 19: 58
            +2
            Quote: Grenader
            Oshkosh L-ATV is in a heavier category than the Tiger and it is not correct to compare them.

            Absolutely correct. For it is on them that the absolute majority of the Humvee will be replaced

            Quote: Grenader
            We have similar cars for example KamAZ-52949.

            I agree. And it is precisely them that must be purchased instead of a misunderstanding called the Tiger. They are better protected, according to the declared characteristics, they have better cross-country ability and, most importantly, unlike the Tiger, they have a sufficient reserve volume.
            1. abc_alex
              abc_alex 17 March 2018 22: 20
              0
              Hmm ... And if the United States thinks it’s enough to replace Oshkosh with heavy tanks, will you even compare them with the Tiger? :)

              However, my opinion is that you don’t need to stuff any crap on the Tiger. For example, a 30 mm gun. This thing deflects the 18 ton helicopter in return, and the Tiger will swing like a cradle when fired.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 17 March 2018 22: 26
                0
                Quote: abc_alex
                Hmm ... And if the United States thinks it’s enough to replace Oshkosh with heavy tanks, will you even compare them with the Tiger? :)

                Exactly. Only not tanks but, for example. TBMP-TBTR

                Quote: abc_alex
                However, my opinion is that you don’t need to stuff any crap on the Tiger. For example, a 30 mm gun.

                And then why would he be needed?
                1. abc_alex
                  abc_alex 17 March 2018 23: 44
                  +2
                  Exactly. Only not tanks but, for example. TBMP-TBTR

                  Shtatovtsy have a TBMP project weighing 70 tons. Will you compare it with the Tiger? :)

                  And then why would he be needed?


                  Well, why Willis and UAZ were in the troops? Again, some means of instrumental reconnaissance, antennas of electronic warfare systems / electronic warfare, launch UAVs and their control systems. MANPADS on it have a perspective. ATGM or other missile systems only in the horizontal version with third-party target designation. Well, at least a mortar ....

                  But not guns with a flat trajectory ...
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 18 March 2018 09: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: abc_alex
                    Well, why Willis and UAZ were in the troops?

                    And how many of these UAZs were there? One for the regiment commander, one for the NS and one for the sappers with the DIM installed on it?
        2. Nehist
          Nehist 18 March 2018 00: 28
          +4
          According to the reviews of my comrades, those who exploited the Tiger opinions about him are far from flattering. And these are people from the riot police. Operated the car almost in greenhouse conditions. Bottom line: everyone is in the ranks
      2. Doliva63
        Doliva63 17 March 2018 20: 01
        +5
        I did not use it, I can’t say anything good. Have you used it?
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 17 March 2018 16: 14
    +6
    In addition to the existing 30 versions of the Tiger armored car, new modifications will be added soon,
    Normally they spun the car ... Personally, it would be interesting for me to climb inside on KShM-kah and hardware ...
    1. san4es
      san4es 17 March 2018 17: 03
      +5
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      ... inside on KShM-kah and hardware ...

      hi So far, that’s so ... R-145BMA command and staff vehicle (KShM) based on the GAZ-233036
      soldier The equipment of the R-145BMA machine includes:
      - a short-wave radio station R-168-100KB (T) with a transmitter with a power of 100 W (frequency range from 1.5 MHz to 29.9 MHz), providing communication via a simplex channel at a distance of up to 350 km when working on the Dipol antenna in the parking lot, and up to 50 km when working on the antenna ASH-4A;
      - an ultra-short-wavelength radio station R-168-25U with a transmitter power of 25 W (frequency range from 30 MHz to 108 MHz), providing communication via a simplex channel at a distance of up to 20 km when operating on an R-168-BShDA antenna;
      - Erika 201-048P45 and Erika 201-048P23 operational communication radio stations (frequency range from 450 MHz to 463 MHz), providing communications at a distance of up to 15 km in the parking and on the move;
      - radio station ICOM IC-110; - a set of antenna mast and antenna feeder devices, including antennas ASH-4A, ASD-34, R-168-BShDA, "Dipole" and the telescopic mast YAG4.115.010;
      - telephone set TA-88 with an inductor call, providing work on two- and four-wire telephone lines;
      - T-231-2A equipment, providing closed radio communication in HF and VHF networks, as well as closed communication via an external four-wire channel;
      - Rosa radio-mobile government communications equipment, providing closed government communications when the CABG is in the coverage area of ​​the base stations of the government communications system;
      - a mobile subscriber satellite terminal GSP 1600 of the Globalstar system with the GSK 1410 car kit, providing the ability to transmit voice or data over an open channel;
      - navigation equipment SN-3001;
      - personal portable computer ES1866 with the ability to transmit data through the channels of radio stations R-168-100KB (T), R-168-25U and satellite communications terminal;
      - a body heater that provides heating for the inhabited compartments in the cold season;
      - Car air conditioner Webasto Compact Cooler-4E, ensuring the maintenance of the necessary temperature conditions for the normal operation of the calculation and equipment in the hot season;
      - G-3000BV electric generator driven by the engine of the machine to power the installed equipment in motion; - Autonomous diesel electric unit AD-2,0U-P / 28,5-C with a rated power of 2 kW for power supply in the parking lot - a 12ST-85RM battery;
      - equipment for input and distribution of power supply, providing, inter alia, the possibility of power supply in the parking lot from an external AC network of 220 V.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 17 March 2018 17: 20
        +6
        Thank you for the information, but in general terms, so to speak, separately, almost everything is familiar ... I would like to use the complex winked Nostalgia for sure. Everything is intuitive in the picture. It’s a pity the little one is weak and not 220 - otherwise it would be gorgeous in the fields, the kettle would be shaved or dried there ...
        1. san4es
          san4es 17 March 2018 18: 25
          +1
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          ... I would like to poyuzat in the complex winked Nostalgia is probably ...

          ...It happens hi
  3. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 17 March 2018 16: 18
    +7
    Photographed in a store in the city of Dnepropetrovsk

    Tiger with humanitarian anti-tank systems

    Well, how could it be without a patriotic tiger from the Crimea on posters
    1. reibert
      reibert 17 March 2018 16: 43
      +4
      Yeah .. Once again, demonstrates the powerful intelligence of Ukrainians))))))
      1. igor67
        igor67 17 March 2018 16: 55
        +3
        Quote: reibert
        Yeah .. Once again, demonstrates the powerful intelligence of Ukrainians))))))

        where did you get the idea that this model demonstrates the intelligence of Ukrainians, I’m 100 percent sure that the toy was made in China, and then marketing
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 17 March 2018 22: 40
          +1
          Maybe. But the conclusion is the same - Ukraine is a non-state.
  4. TOR2
    TOR2 17 March 2018 16: 39
    +2
    GAZ Group would not be bad to develop a version reduced to the size of LuAZ. Such cars can be produced both for the civilian market and for law enforcement agencies. For example: spec. units operating behind enemy lines. A special version of such a vehicle can be equipped with a gas generator in addition. If necessary, the role of the gas station will be performed by a dry tree.
    Belarusian craftsmen distinguished themselves in this direction. good
    Gas generating UAZ. Ultimately, the gas is powered by a standard 2,4-liter UAZ gasoline engine. Fuel tanks are also available, and in the absence of firewood, the machine can also run on gasoline. As Sergey notes, the UAZ gas generator consumes about 20 kg of wood chocks per 100 km, so two bags behind the rear seats are enough for a range of up to 200 km.

    http://feedcars.ru/avtobiznes/5002-vmesto-benzina
    -drova-samyy-neobychnyy-uaz-video.html
    1. reibert
      reibert 17 March 2018 16: 45
      +5
      Just wondering: what do you smoke?)
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 17 March 2018 19: 02
        +1
        I’ll see what you and people like you smoke when you’re trailing a bunch of equipment on yourself behind enemy lines.
        1. faiver
          faiver 17 March 2018 19: 26
          +2
          dear, and if instead of two bags of chocks you put five 20 liter cans with gasoline behind the seat, you can drive seven hundred kilometers .. hi
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 17 March 2018 20: 14
            +5
            Quote: faiver
            and if instead of two bags of chocks put five 20 liter cans of gasoline behind the seat, then you can drive seven hundred kilometers ..

            Behind enemy lines? belay drinks
            1. faiver
              faiver 17 March 2018 20: 47
              0
              well if necessary laughing drinks
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 17 March 2018 20: 56
                +5
                No, not a ride laughing drinks
                Even in the desert.
        2. Doliva63
          Doliva63 17 March 2018 20: 12
          +6
          “Plus” for understanding the specifics, but “minus” for not knowing the practice. I’m not that they will trample everything that is needed (although, of course, they will trample), but to the fact that there was already a practice of using cars in reconnaissance - companies of deep reconnaissance, for example. Despite the pile of firewood around, they abandoned them. laughing Maybe it’s not a matter of firewood? what drinks
          1. TOR2
            TOR2 17 March 2018 21: 41
            0
            Yes, there was a time. It was for the needs of reconnaissance and assault companies that the LuAZik was developed at one time. It just turned out a car suitable for landing without a platform, just on a parachute system. Frankly, I am not familiar with the specifics of DDR. The guys who served there called LuAZik a one-time car. And to the question - why did they answer, the fuel will run out and it will become without a useful piece of iron, and borrowing an idea from the enemy is not always suitable.
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 17 March 2018 22: 27
              +6
              For information, as an artist to an artist. In the DDR there were only parachutes and armored personnel carriers. Well, BRDM is still in special intelligence. And in the companies of deep reconnaissance were only GAZ / UAZ-69 and motorcycles. In helicopters they were supposed to be delivered to the rear, and there themselves with a mustache. To the guys "who served there", send greetings from 32, 11 and 30 DDR. And my father commanded a deep intelligence company when I went to school. drinks
              About LuAZ - he was only in the ODSHBR / ODShB, he never met anywhere else. Mostly with doctors. drinks
              Maybe somewhere it was different, but "what I see, I sing" drinks
              1. TOR2
                TOR2 17 March 2018 22: 49
                0
                Guys will definitely "poke" when I see. laughing
                There were several modifications of LuAZika, not only the honey version.
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 18 March 2018 20: 43
                  +5
                  The main purpose of LuAZiks (in the army) is the front edge conveyor (TPK, “tablet”, etc.). And there, at least put LNG on him, even if you carry wounded. But it was not long. Disappeared along with the "classic" DSB during the USSR.
                  As for the DDR, I had the opportunity to serve in a company consisting not of WDS, like everyone else, but of the DShV, each of which consisted of hell who would guess! - from reconnaissance assault groups. In this regard, there was such a cool incident - my 4th RCG was assigned to parachute to the rear of the “enemy” during exercises of reconnaissance forces and reconnaissance equipment. It is clear that the “Chizhiki” from the GRU came in large numbers. And they were surprised - where did such a group come from, we don’t have such! laughing
                  It was this company in the 68th that, while still a company of deep intelligence, arrested and sent the government of Dubcek to the Union, about which my father left a memory - the artist’s album, which they had as the minister of culture, with the inscription “To the Victor from the vanquished, and autographs of all of these "democratizers." It was a good company, with traditions - the heiress of reconnaissance 9 Guards VDD.
                  1. TOR2
                    TOR2 19 March 2018 20: 00
                    0
                    You told a lot of interesting things.
  5. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 17 March 2018 18: 12
    0
    Good technique !!! Dream!!! On such a yes in the vast! Who understood support ...
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 17 March 2018 20: 16
      +5
      Who drove through the open spaces on the BRDM-2, will not appreciate. In any case, I do not see the benefits. Not a retrograde, I just didn’t use it, I don’t know. It would be nice to compare.
  6. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 17 March 2018 18: 22
    +1
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Thank you for the information, but in general terms, so to speak, separately, almost everything is familiar ... I would like to use the complex winked Nostalgia for sure. Everything is intuitive in the picture. It’s a pity the little one is weak and not 220 - otherwise it would be gorgeous in the fields, the kettle would be shaved or dried there ...

    I wouldn’t refuse to poyuzat the city ...

    [Quote] [/ quote]
  7. Monarchist
    Monarchist 17 March 2018 19: 01
    0
    Quote: Fedor Egoist
    Quote: Vard
    turn it into a tank, you need to think carefully

    If you think about it, a car with a 30mm autocannon is never a tank or even an armored personnel carrier. But how easy ZSU for working on drones, the destruction of jihadmobiles and weakly protected firing points - that's it.

    And for me it’s like this: jihad mobiles and bunkers are better to wet from BMP 2. Unfortunately, we like extremes: to make corn in the joint venture and to make unevirsal from a light armored car, and then some uncle in the General Staff will say: “I like Fiat, everyone rushed to make Fiat a station wagon, etc.
    Unification is good, but it is necessary to comply with the measure, and even with this universal “tigging * I’m starting to suspect personal interests. I am not asserting anything, but I am pondering that this is possible in our time and ghosts were
  8. serge siberian
    serge siberian 17 March 2018 19: 57
    0
    So it’s like he was back in the 90s. In Zhirinovsky, Wolfovich himself boasted, he bought a car at the same time. And he had a fundamentally good platform for cars. In Novosibirsk I saw this on the mail and baggage platform in the 2000th. .
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 17 March 2018 21: 18
      +5
      Quote: serzh sibiryak
      Wolfovich himself

      Siberia has lost its brains. My mother is over 90, she is from Tulun, she still says about Zhirik - he is still a clown. laughing
  9. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 17 March 2018 20: 51
    0
    Tiger 30 mm and module close-up:

  10. Dedall
    Dedall 18 March 2018 11: 07
    +1
    I saw how at the KSM training ground, on the basis of this shit, I sat in a puddle where the "shisharik" quietly passed. I think that he sat down because of the low clearance. The wheels quickly raked out the clay and the machine stood up. And if they add a gun to him ...
    1. Fedor egoist
      Fedor egoist 18 March 2018 12: 20
      0
      With such a gun, patency will increase: stuck somewhere - turned the gun back, gave a long line and jumped at the recoil laughing
  11. serge siberian
    serge siberian 18 March 2018 13: 57
    0
    [B] [/ b]
    Quote: Fedor Egoist
    With such a gun, patency will increase: stuck somewhere - turned the gun back, gave a long line and jumped at the recoil laughing

    It’s not economical, however, but I really like your idea! You can even use any machine, or attach a machine gun or a cannon, depending on the class of car, and go. laughing good hi
  12. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 18 March 2018 17: 03
    0
    And in the last photo, isn't it a 12,7 mm module?
    30 mm gun is not too much for this machine?
  13. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 18 March 2018 17: 05
    0
    Quote: Incvizitor
    Tiger 30 mm and module close-up:


    And this 30 mm gun doesn’t look like a serial model in your photo. What is a stripped-down option?
    Is this exactly a 30 mm gun? Not 14,5 or something else? Is there a photo of the stand with this module?
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 19 March 2018 18: 53
      +2
      Quote: glavnykarapuz
      exactly 30 mm gun?

      "Thirty" set, yes. But not 2A42 from the deuce, but lightweight 2A72 from the BMP-3
      The strange appearance is explained by the fact that all sorts of impossible constructions are welded onto the 2A72 (frames, amplifier shells), because before that the gun had been made easier that when firing the barrel had a serious "chat" (on the BMP-3 the thirty barrel was paired with a 100-mm gun, what stiffness is achieved)
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 19 March 2018 19: 16
      0
      on the Tiger

      "Jib"


      Ukrainian crafts: