Suitcase with gases: Toxic substance could be in the luggage of Skripal's daughter

British newspaper The Telegraph publishes new materials related to the poisoning in London of a former GRU officer, Sergei Skripal, and his daughter, a citizen of the Russian Federation. The material of the publication, referring to a source in the special services, states that the toxic substance was in the suitcase of the defector’s daughter.

From the material of the British newspaper:

One of the items related to clothing or cosmetics was probably soaked with poison. The suitcase was to be unpacked at the Fiddle House in Salisbury.

As you can see, the term "probably" becomes the main in British coverage of this entire stories.

Recall that the British government even before the announcement of the preliminary information on the progress of the investigation filed an accusation against Russia. United Kingdom Premier Teresa May said that Scripal was poisoned by a substance called "Newcomer."

Against the background of the publication of new data on the course of the investigation in Britain, notes appeared that the killer’s goal (if it exists at all, and if this whole story is not a fake of the British special services - no video and photo materials with poisoned people in London are still known. never published) was not at all Skripal, and his daughter. Moreover, the materials state that the motives could have been quite domestic, and this was already the British authorities who inflated the scandal in a favorable light for them - with the mention of the nerve gas and the Kremlin’s hands.

Comments

[Herculesic]

The British do not need to write the words "probably" or "maybe" - they themselves poisoned themselves know how it really was! That is, the newspaper wrote the truth by inserting a couple of unnecessary words like “probably” for the look!

[Tatyana]

It seems that the British with Skripal poisoning completely lied. At the same time, May, in her lie to the world community, as they say, bit a bit and started racing against Russia!

[In h]

So where to go to the horse .. or neigh and run .. or to sausage .. and really want to be an iron lady .. but not a wooden horse. Only besides shitting .. nothing happens .. the level is different and the breed is not the same

[For example]

Gas was sewn into the skripal’s underpants during his time in Russia. After the exchange, he came to England in shorts in which gas was sewn. A few days ago, cowards were activated to release gas. And ... voila!

Be vigilant, comrades! Buying underpants and other clothes you become dependent on the hands of the Kremlin!

Well, or wash more often and change your panties more often than people who live on islands where they speak English do it.

[Tatyana]

There is an INTERESTING detail in the story of Skripal poisoning, which the British media chose not to mention, but which experts pay attention to. Namely.
Noteworthy is the village itself, where Skripal was poisoned.

Former GRU officer Sergei Skripal was poisoned in Salisbury, where the Chemical Weapons Protection Center will be located. Moreover, they will place it on the territory of an existing base - namely, the Laboratory for Scientific and Technical Defense Research (DSTL) - of a military institution.
This laboratory is more than 100 years old - it has existed since the WWI - and it is also located next to Salisbury, on the territory of the Porton Down defense research park. The Porton Down base itself enjoys ominous fame.
It was in this "Porton Down" that the British developed the Neg. things in VX. Created near Salisbury neg. in VX, by analogy with Novichok, it was the "progenitor" of a whole class of poisonous substances, to which the Novikov family belonged.
VX was the "progenitor" of a whole class of toxic substances, which were then transferred to the Americans, and they already took it into service.
Experts believe that Porton Down may be involved in the organization of Skripal poisoning, especially since the center itself later engaged in the analysis of the substance with which the defector was poisoned.
At the same time, experts draw attention to the fact that Skripal and his daughter still did not die immediately from the poisoning, as it should have been, and for a week doctors have been saving them with injections with an antidote. And for this, doctors needed to know the tests to determine this OM, and which antidote should correspond to it. Otherwise, they could not decipher the structure of OM so quickly.

Simply put, experts believe that the British themselves poisoned Skripal. If this is not a staging at all for manipulating public consciousness on the part of members of the May cabinet.
Therefore, the world will never receive any evidence of Russia's participation allegedly in the poisoning of the Skripals!

[Romario_Argo]

Skripal was a double agent, merging English developments on a hybrid of chemical and biological weaponsbut burnt down. The courier was his daughter. MI-6 cleaned up.

[qQQQ]

Quote: Romario_Argo

Skripal was a double agent, merging English developments on a hybrid of chemical and biological weaponsbut burnt down. The courier was his daughter. MI-6 cleaned up.

He also immediately voiced such a version.
We were saved by a policeman who was poisoned unambiguously in Skripal’s house, otherwise they would have voiced the version that he was poisoned in some pub, sprayed a small dose, marked everyone and voila, there is a firm belief that there was some junior assistant from our embassy somewhere , everyone would throw it at him, and so a problem.

[Baloo]

Quote: Tatiana

At the same time, experts draw attention to the fact that Skripal and his daughter still did not die immediately from the poisoning, as it should have been, and for a week doctors have been saving them with injections with an antidote. And for this, doctors needed to know the tests to determine this OM, and which antidote should correspond to it. Otherwise, they could not decipher the structure of OM so quickly.
Simply put, experts believe that the British themselves poisoned Skripal. If this is not a staging at all for manipulating public consciousness on the part of members of the May cabinet.

I also got the impression that this whole tragicomedy is impromptu. Russia thwarted chemical attacks lured by a Western coalition of terrorists in Syria, threatened to shoot down rockets and pepilats in the event of a missile attack on Damascus. Now, in order to make Russia a terrorist state and justify further provocations, they quickly travailed and “saved” dad and daughter. And why not show how to save the victims?
And yet, when a person is ill, he falls, and these are sitting. Moreover, if it is, as the citizens declare nerve poison — where the cramps are, the victims should lie and not sit, as if they had brought them from somewhere and put them down for presentation. Where are the footage from the intensive care unit?
I think that Russia's response should be tougher — send 50 diplomats, create problems for the rest, restricting their movement and generally nightmare everyone.
Not the case when it is possible to agree. It can hit in the nose too early, but you can’t humiliate yourself.

[Reptiloid]

And why gas can not be in a box of English cookies?
There are good words ---- water with gas !!! After all, in England they drink English water with gas, and not Russian! We ate in a restaurant, drank some water ..... We sat on a small bench, opened a little water .....

[Romario_Argo]

take it "wider": the carrier is chemistry, and the weapon is a selective strain of the virus
just fly over Russia in the framework of the "Open Skies"

[AlexVas44]

Quote: In H

..or sausage.

Already a very tough option. How many people can suffer. It will carry it so that they may not run ...

[Romario_Argo]

we can’t take us with nuclear weapons - that's why only (!)

[Senior manager]

Yes, they didn’t find what kind of object was saturated with poison. On the other hand, our media are also able to operate on a half-truth basis and present real facts at the level of a semitone, and the translation of texts, again, provides a sea of ​​opportunities for various interpretations. The information war, however, but I want to know the truth.

[Alex777]

And they know how to "gas" things!
Dvoechnikov picked up and out of control.

[Mountain shooter]

In a suitcase? And how was it then packed? Well, in general, the fantasy of these little Britons simply knows no bounds! Precisely about "Miss Marple" have read.

[milling machine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

In a suitcase? And how was it then packed? Well, in general, the fantasy of these little Britons simply knows no bounds! Precisely about "Miss Marple" have read.

Could and pour at the airport.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

such information also slipped through: "And why does everyone think that it was Sergei who wanted to be poisoned?" - quotes the Telegram channel Mash of Skripal’s relatives. According to the relatives of the victim, an “outraged woman” could have stood behind the attempt on him and his daughter.
Julia Skripal allegedly was going to get married, but the mother of the groom, who is an employee of the special services, was against marriage, because she did not want her son to connect fate with the daughter of a fugitive ex-GRU ex-employee.

"Why is Great Britain hiding information about Uncle Seryozha’s condition? What is the point of this attempt? Why is it? Neither Russia nor England needed it," Telegram-channel quotes the words of the family of Sergey Skripal. According to his relatives, someone is trying to use what happened for personal purposes.

Victim's niece Victoria recalled that "one of the agencies stated that he allegedly (Skripal. - approx. Ed.) Contacted the police because of surveillance." HERE-https: //www.dni.ru/society/2018/3/14/393305.h
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[Baloo]

There is even more interesting infa on the internet. The gas could be the same one that poisoned Un's brother (who lived where for a long time?), And gas was invented in Nagliya in the 50s, supplied to Saddam Hussein, and was used by him in the 70s, and even the naglitsy built a factory for Saddam.

No wonder the citizens are afraid to provide materials and will not allow Russia to investigate.

[Servisinzhener]

Then there should be victims and from there in a large enough quantity. Of those who were near or touching the suitcase.

[mole]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Precisely about "Miss Marple" have read.

Poisoning is a purely English murder. With our performance would disappear somewhere or on the head would be poked.

[Uncle lee]

the poisonous substance was in the suitcase of the defector's daughter.

It was not a daughter, but a secret agent Red Pashechka. She poisoned the traitor.

[novel66]

kamikaze smacks of

[Amurets]

Recall that the British government even before the announcement of the preliminary information on the progress of the investigation filed an accusation against Russia. United Kingdom Premier Teresa May said that Scripal was poisoned by a substance called "Newcomer."

And what rubbish Theresa May drinks what so tears her roof?

[Herculesic]

And there is poured urine of a young steam her favorite drink!

[Uncle lee]

More like the blood of babies!

[Baloo]

Quote: Amurets

And what rubbish Theresa May drinks

Dies of binge, again, the Russians are to blame?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Amurets

And what rubbish Theresa May drinks

Why not afraid? After all, gas can be in the BOTTLE !!!!!!!

[In h]

Probably an infusion of hay .. a drink determines consciousness, otherwise why did she decide that Russia would be scared of the arrival of the royal member and members of the government .. and probably her own .. we like a grandmother in ruffles and hangers, etc. members deep in .. Found a scarecrow. a royal family without a kingdom and a government led by itself ..

[ul_vitalii]

Breathe smoothly, live on, we do not need additional gray hair. There is no need to justify, we still won’t be heard, only an extra reason for verbal skirmishing and bullying.

[Amurets]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Breathe smoothly, live on, we do not need additional gray hair.

What gray hair? Smart gray hairs are already leaving their bad heads.

[novel66]

transition from combing to polishing - a positive!

[victorsh]

The "Novice" was stored in the Carpathian Military District and in the countries of the internal affairs department (closer to the theater). We draw conclusions.

[Kent0001]

Normal people have already made them.

[demo]

It doesn’t matter how to pack the substance, it doesn’t matter how to bring it in and not poison yourself, it doesn’t matter what they can open at either time or place. This is all not important.
Another thing is important.
The level of provocation training is indicative.
General management is very bad.
The participants did not think through everything to the smallest detail.
All threads stick out from all sides.
The obviousness is that it seems that the operation was not prepared by MI5 and MI6 employees, but by “specialists” in cutting heads from ISIS.
Thus, a clear message has been given to the country's intelligence community - you can not strain and make a blunder.
For us, the Russian Federation - this is wonderful, but for the British - probably not great.
The times of Bond have sunk into oblivion.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: demo

Another thing is important.
The level of provocation training is indicative.
General management is very bad.

I support. It seems that this Skripal and his daughter settled ... poisoning themselves in a local tavern with stale oysters, which the cunning owner of the restaurant gives to inexperienced customers (the waiter’s code word for the cook is "Novice"), and from this the universal scandal was fanned.

[ZVO]

Quote: demo

For us, the Russian Federation - this is wonderful, but for the British - probably not great.
The times of Bond have sunk into oblivion.

What is wonderful then?
if all their society believes them. all these billions around the world - it is their media that believe ...
If a 12-year-old Spanish girl - believes that all Russians are Putin's propaganda, then you understand how prepared their society is for hatred of the Russians and for war with the Russians.
They are already prepared.
They know. Russians are bad. they are enemies and war with them is a matter of time.

[Amurets]

Against the background of the publication of new data on the course of the investigation in Britain, notes appeared that the killer’s goal (if it exists at all, and if this whole story is not a fake of the British special services - no video and photo materials with poisoned people in London are still known. never published) was not at all Skripal, and his daughter. Moreover, the materials state that the motives could have been quite domestic, and this was already the British authorities who inflated the scandal in a favorable light for them - with the mention of the nerve gas and the Kremlin’s hands.

Yes. There is a statement from the Skripals family on the news:
"Representatives of the family of ex-colonel of the GRU Sergei Skripal said in an interview with the media that some" indignant woman "could organize an attempt on him and his daughter.
As follows from their words, in the near future Julia Skripal was going to marry a high-ranking groom. However, his mother was “deeply against” this wedding.
"Mom is a high-ranking employee of one of the structures, Julia for her is the daughter of a traitor," - said the interlocutors of journalists. "Https://tsargrad.tv/news/ishhite-zhenshhinu-semja
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[Reptiloid]

Yeah, Nikolai! High feelings, high relationships. I heard reports that Skripal’s relatives were also dying strangely. .Spouse, brother, son .....

[Amurets]

Quote: Reptiloid

Yeah, Nikolai! High feelings, high relationships. I heard reports that Skripal’s relatives were also dying strangely. .Spouse, brother, son .....

Dima! Yes, there is a lot of strange, but the fact is that they were not interested in our intelligence in any way.
Even the death of Berezovsky and his friends seems strange, especially since the GDP responded positively to Berezovsky’s repentance letter.

[Reptiloid]

If to hammer in a search engine: HOW did Skripal's relatives die? It turns out a lot of strange and contradictory. Looks like many who did not like family members.

[tralmaster.]

In the suitcase ?? But what about gas analyzers at the airport when passing luggage. Is it that in this country you can import everything by plane ?????. Complete nonsense.

[oracul]

Absurd version. On the one hand, a terrible nerve gas, on the other hand, victims are found on a bench near the shopping center, i.e. They opened the house for those who took advantage, and then wandered off somewhere. And, the strangest thing is, luggage could simply be lost, but this happens sometimes. It is unlikely that a suitcase was dragged into the cockpit. When they show an American brandishing a test tube with supposedly poisonous substance from Iraq at the UN walls, I get utter bewilderment from this nonsense. No expert chemist in his right mind and full memory will do this without special precautions. And the world not only swallowed it, but no one even expressed weak protest against such graphic demonstrations. It turns out that already many years ago the symptoms of the current West’s disease were on the face, but they didn’t take measures and now the disease seems to require cardinal treatment, but the “patient” does not want this.

[Moskovit]

Some enchanting nonsense. Did his daughter come with a suitcase to the meeting? There she opened for the first time and says, dad, smell my things quickly and put your lips on my lipstick!
How can I bring a suitcase, open it, take it apart, and send it and take it myself in a few days! This is an explanation of a 3 year old child!

[Strashila]

Maybe everything is more prosaic ... before that they were in a restaurant ... maybe he should have worked there ... ??? Calculate the consequences. It turns out that a patch on the release ... they decided to check what the cant was ... they made sure that everything was working ... personally.

[g1washntwn]

Sure, they went to a restaurant with a suitcase, just like in Prostokvashino the whole company went mushrooming with a chest. My version is probably the perfume from "(not as an advertisement)" entered into a chemical reaction with a deodorant from "(not as an advertisement)" resulting in a binary poisonous substance. :)

[thinker]

First, a poisoned bouquet, now a suitcase, and maybe a beer "peppy".

[fif21]

All this hype around Skripal is most likely a cover. We need to wait for something serious. Syria and Ukraine are my guess. Putin said, “Listen to Russia,” the West listened and .........

[Strashila]

As Alice said ... Stranger and weirder !. This is some interpretation of poisoning ... a cemetery, a restaurant ... in short a public catering ... now a suitcase. True, a strange couple who goes to the cemetery, then carrying a suitcase with them to a restaurant ... it might all be easier, a provocation with a poisonous substance was being prepared ... but the bookmark in the suitcase for some reason worked earlier ... sadness, now to the British special services, like it’s necessary to explain ... that their agent was walking with his daughter, who was a courier with weapons of mass destruction ... to whom they carried this suitcase, who is the planned victim of a terrorist attack or provocation ... ??? That's all the causes of hysteria in Britain. With Litvinenko, they got the same cant ... the poison was taken by their agent, not guests from Russia.

[Lena Petrova]

A poisoned suitcase, shelling of the dome of Rada from a mortar - what subtle matters! An ice ax is our simple and safe method.

[Strashila]

Well or not that sublime ... a syringe pistol with potassium cyanide - hidden in a newspaper rolled up in a tube or with an injection of an umbrella in the leg, whereby a metal capsule with ricin was implanted in the calf of the leg ... this is how fighters of an invisible front act ... but you can and an ice ax.

[roofing hedgehog]

why a suitcase, not a cosmetic bag or wallet? it would be more logical (in British) if they sat down on a bench in the park, pulled out their daughter’s purse and opened it, put it in their heads and began to smell the smell of native rubas .. such a normal version is no worse than others.

[Strashila]

Let the visitors of the Italian restaurant Zizzi, put candles on their saints and consider this day another birthday ... maybe they were the goal of this couple ... but the Almighty is not a fraer, he saw everything and saved them.

[Hariton laptev]

Quote: frezer

Quote: Mountain Shooter
In a suitcase? And how was it then packed? Well, in general, the fantasy of these little Britons simply knows no bounds! Precisely about "Miss Marple" have read.

Could and pour at the airport.

yeah with such toxicity as claimed, that day no one would be able to fly away from there. The British lied, another week or two and they themselves will not know how to get out of this. It's like in the yard or you admit that you are lying or you have to go to the end and start a fight to hide a lie behind a scuffle.

[sleeve]

Beautifully scratch. Chemistry means in the suitcase of a daughter who flew in from Russia. Well, here is the evidence. And someone hoped it would be different? Of course there is a little thing impregnated with OB. But how can she not appear? Logic truth will not be investigative. No one will bother to answer how it turned out that the pre-lethal condition in half a kilometer from the suitcase happened? How did the soaked clothes at the time of inspecting things not send the entire investigation team out? In life, we will never see a medical examination, where the “affected area” would be clearly visible (inhaled either through the skin or some other poison in the body). SUITCASE FROM MOSCOW! What more do you need? According to FIG on gas analyzers at airports (and in Heathrow anyway), I don’t care that in this situation the phrase “impregnated OM” would mean, taking into account the pressure drops during the flight, the arrival of a real sarcophagus in Britain with a bunch of corpses. All according to FIG. SUITCASE FROM MOSCOW !!!!

[sleeve]

In short now, we will observe the “fitting of the logical picture”. With a terrifying creak on arguments. But amid the howling of their media, this squeak will not be heard. Maybe we will even see the "Russian scouts", under the weight of the guilt of surrendering to the authorities of sunny Britain. Where is science investigative heading ?!

[Operator]

Russia and another state are clearly not included in the circle of suspects in the poisoning of the British national Skripal and his daughter, a citizen of the Russian Federation, since the UK has not yet activated the official mechanism for controlling chemical weapons established by the Convention on the Prohibition of this type of weapon - namely, it did not apply to the OPCW’s core organization to investigate the Salisbury incident.

This means that Britain does not have a single fact of participation in this incident of government structures of any of the countries - parties to the Convention. The same is confirmed by the refusal of the NATO Council to use Article 5 of the organization’s charter (on collective defense in the event of aggression by a state) in response to a corresponding appeal from Great Britain.

Those. the poisoning of the British Skripal and the Russian woman Yulia is a purely criminal showdown with the aim of influencing the elections in the Russian Federation, revenge Skripal for interfering in the affairs of the Ukrainian mafia or for participating in the collection of dirt on Trump commissioned by Clinton, etc. etc.

[Victor_B]

Suitcase with gases: Toxic substance could be in the luggage of Skripal's daughter

And it could not be!
But the Prime Minister could have a brain in his head, but he couldn’t!

[BAI]

And soon a message will appear - We have not found evidence, but this means that the FSB has learned to well cover up traces.

[Amurets]

Quote: BAI

And soon a message will appear - We have not found evidence, but this means that the FSB has learned to well cover up traces.

Yeah! A nanometer from Chubais appeared; no brooms, no marks.

[flicker]

Everyone continues to pull the owl on the globe. Oh well.
“Those who drip poison somewhere will themselves swallow it in the end, they themselves will be poisoned by this poison. We have a good saying: don't spit in the well (it’s useful to get some water to drink). Just about right. This is the case, it all ultimately turns against those who do it, ”said the head of the Russian state.

[pavelty]

Well, it’s clear that they won’t come out of a coma ...

[Laayoune]

This is what the poison-soaked item looked like from a suitcase according to British investigators:

[Nyrobsky]

I thought that the invasion of clowns affected only Urkaina, but no - this infection captures the entire "civilized" world.

[svp67]

One of the items related to clothing or cosmetics was likely to be saturated with the poisonous substance.

Does anyone even imagine what a BOW is before writing this? One of the items is impregnated ?????????? Well, how many people should have been harassed when this suitcase was traveling. Lord save us from such experts ....

[HMR333]

dumber version until there was this in their opinion someone stole suitcases poured poison gas into a bucket, dipped things, put them in a suitcase and slipped a suitcase back!))) I’m silent about the version itself, you know about it ....... but the suitcases could have been stolen from them and many more options, so the calla version!

[Romanenko]

With the same success, the poisonous substance could be put in a suitcase in the baggage handling area, or at the customs control in Heathrow.
Has anyone thought about this?
There it is generally no problem.
A bag or a suitcase is marked with an isotope upon departure to Russia, and on the way back it is selected from the stream and “completed”.
Old as a world, I don’t understand why ours haven’t yet presented it to the Anglo-Sos?

[Hiller]

the little shaves act according to the Goebbels textbook: "misinformation must be monstrous - like a drawing of a savage! then they will not believe in it." So this propagandist from the past, for example, explained the accumulation of Wehrmacht troops on the border with the USSR: supposedly Stalin allowed the Wehrmacht to pass through the territory of the Soviet Union .... to conquer India. Nothing new