Ambitious Russian project can give new impetus to space exploration

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One of the most ambitious Soviet-Russian projects in the field of space exploration is close to completion and is entering the stage of direct practical implementation. This is the creation of a megawatt class nuclear power plant. The creation and testing of such an engine can significantly change the situation in near-Earth space.

The megawatt class nuclear propulsion system (NESA) is a joint project of a group of Russian enterprises that are part of Roskosmos and Rosatom. This project aims to develop a megawatt class NPS. It is designed specifically for equipping a new spacecraft with the working title TEM (transport and energy module). The lead contractor for the project for the creation of the nuclear power plant is the FSUE “Keldysh Research Center” (Moscow). The goal of the ambitious project is to bring Russia to the leading position in the creation of energy complexes for space, with high efficiency and capable of solving an impressive range of tasks in outer space. For example, studies of the Moon, as well as the distant planets of our solar system, including the creation of automatic bases on them.



Currently, space flights in near-Earth space are carried out on rockets that are driven by combustion in their engines of liquid or solid rocket fuel. Liquid rocket fuel is divided into an oxidizer and fuel. These components are located in various tanks of the rocket in a liquid state. The components are mixed in the combustion chamber, usually with the help of nozzles. The pressure created by the work of the displacement or turbopump system. In addition, the fuel components are used to cool the rocket nozzle. Solid rocket fuel is also divided into fuel and oxidant, but they are in the form of a mixture of solids.


Over the past decades, the technology of using these types of rocket fuel has been worked out to the smallest detail in many countries. At the same time, rocket scientists themselves admit that the further development of such technologies is problematic. The former head of the Federal Space Agency of Russia, Anatoly Perminov, noted: “Roughly speaking, all existing rocket engines, whether liquid or solid propellant, are squeezed. Attempts to increase their thrust, specific impulse, are simply unpromising. ” Against this background, other technical solutions are of interest. For example, nuclear power plants that can provide an increase in thrust and specific impulse at times. Anatoly Perminov gave an example of a flight to Mars, to which you now need to fly 1,5-2 back and forth. With the use of a nuclear power plant, flight time could be reduced to 2-4 months.

Taking this into account, in Russia, starting from 2010, a project is being implemented to create a space transport and energy module based on a megawatt-class nuclear power plant, which has no analogues in the world. The corresponding order was signed by Dmitry Medvedev. For the implementation of this project before 2018, the federal budget, Roscosmos and Rosatom planned to send 17 billion rubles, 7,2 billion rubles from this amount was allocated to the state corporation Rosatom to create a reactor plant (Research and Development Institute of Power Engineering) Dollezhal), 4 billion rubles - Keldysh Center for the development of a nuclear power plant, 5,8 billion rubles - RSC Energia, which was to create a transport and energy module. In accordance with the new federal space program in 2016-2025, further 22 billions of 890 million rubles were planned for further work on the project.

All these works are carried out in Russia not from scratch. The possibility of using nuclear energy in space has been considered since the middle of the 50 of the last century by such prominent domestic specialists as Keldysh, Kurchatov and Korolev. Only from 1970 to 1988 years, the Soviet Union launched into the space more 30 reconnaissance satellites that were equipped with low-power nuclear power plants of the type Topaz and Buk. These satellites were used to create an all-weather surveillance system for surface targets in the entire water area of ​​the World Ocean, as well as issuing target designation with transmission to command posts or carriers weapons - systems of sea space reconnaissance and target designation "Legend" (1978 year). Also, in the period from 1960 to 1980, the year in our country was developed and tested at the Semipalatinsk nuclear test site, the TASS news agency reported.

Nuclear reactor-converter "Topaz" (reduced layout)

Experts identify the following advantages of nuclear power plants:
- The ability to fly to Mars in the 1,5 month and go back, while the flight using conventional rocket engines can take up to 1,5 years without the ability to go back.
- New features in the study of near-Earth space.
- The ability to perform maneuvers and accelerate, in contrast to installations that can only accelerate, and then fly along a predetermined path.
- Reduced maintenance costs, which is achieved due to the high resource possible 10-year operation.
- A significant increase in the mass of the payload put into orbit due to the absence of large fuel tanks.

20 July 2014 was obtained a patent of the Russian Federation for the number RU2522971 for the “Nuclear power plant” (YAEDU), author Academician A. Koroteev. Later at the exhibition “State order - FOR fair purchases 2016”, which took place in Moscow from 23 to 25 in March , JSC “NIKIET” named after Dollezhal presented a model of a reactor facility for a megawatt class nuclear power plant. It is known that the nuclear power plant developed in our country consists of three main elements: a reactor installation with a working fluid and auxiliary devices, such as a turbo-generator-compressor and a heat exchanger-recuperator; electric propulsion system and a radiator radiator (system of heat release into space). Given the progress of work, it can be noted that the Russian Federation has every chance of first launching into orbit a spacecraft that will be equipped with a nuclear power plant.

It is planned that the model of nuclear power unit in the gland for testing will be created by the year 2019. And the first flights into space using a similar power plant will take place in 2020-s. Dmitry Makarov, director of the Institute of Reactor Materials (IWM, Sverdlovsk Region), told reporters as early as April of 2020 about the fact that the first flight tests of a nuclear space propulsion system were planned for 2016-s. Responding to questions from TASS journalists, he noted that in the near future, a ground-based prototype of this device will be created in Russia, and in 2020-s will pass the first flight tests in space. Such an installation of the megawatt class will allow the formation of powerful electro-nuclear engines that can accelerate interplanetary spacecraft to serious speeds. As part of the work on this project, Rosatom creates the heart of the facility - a nuclear reactor.

Ambitious Russian project can give new impetus to space exploration
Model of a reactor facility for a megawatt class nuclear power propulsion unit

According to Makarov, the IRM successfully completed tests of heat-conducting elements (TVEL) for this installation, adding that full-scale TVELs that are planned to be used in such reactors were tested. Makarov has no doubt that, on the basis of the experience and competence of the Roskosmos and Rosatom institutes, it will be possible to create a nuclear power plant that will allow our country to reach not only the nearest, but also distant planets of our solar system. In fact, a platform will be developed through which it will be possible to implement serious research programs aimed at exploring deep space.

The development in Russia of a nuclear power unit carries the following practical benefits. First, this is a significant expansion of the capabilities of Russia and humanity in general. Spaceships equipped with a nuclear power plant will make the journey of people to Mars and other planets real.

Secondly, such ships will significantly enhance human activity in near-Earth space, giving a real opportunity to begin the colonization of the moon (there are already projects to build nuclear power plants on the Earth’s satellite). “The use of nuclear power plants is considered for large manned space systems, and not for small spacecraft that can fly on other types of installations using ionic engines or solar wind energy. It will be possible to use nuclear power plants on reusable inter-orbit tugs. For example, to move various loads between low and high orbits, to fly to asteroids. You can also send an expedition to Mars or create a reusable lunar tug, ”says Professor Oleg Gorshkov. Such ships are able to change the entire economy of space exploration. As RSC Energia experts note, the nuclear launch vehicle will be able to reduce the cost of launching the payload into circumlunar orbit by more than two times compared to missiles equipped with liquid-propellant rocket engines.


Thirdly, this development is new technologies and materials that will definitely appear during the project implementation. They can be implemented in other branches of the Russian industry - mechanical engineering, metallurgy, etc. This is a breakthrough project that, if successfully implemented, can give a new impetus to the Russian economy.

Information sources:
http://expert.ru/2013/01/31/vyijti-iz-tupika
https://lenta.ru/news/2016/04/26/nuclear
http://tass.ru/kosmos/3238375
https://riafan.ru/998650-rossiya-pervoi-vyvedet-na-orbitu-yadernyi-kosmicheskii-korabl
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  1. +3
    16 March 2018 06: 32
    First you need to master the moon! And then to swing at Mars.
    1. +69
      16 March 2018 06: 43
      First you need to master Russia, and then swing to the moon and Mars. Yes
      1. +41
        16 March 2018 06: 47
        If you do not strive for more, there will be no small.
      2. Fox
        +23
        16 March 2018 07: 10
        Quote: Greenwood
        First you need to master Russia,

        in 6 years they will master ... and there will be no trace.
        1. +14
          16 March 2018 07: 47
          Yes, you sho? Can not be! And what, Katz offers to give up? ©
          1. +7
            16 March 2018 09: 56
            No, this time Katz offers to take everything away from the “wrong”, and divide between the “right”.
            In general, the same pipe, only in profile.
            "Not by washing, so by Catania"
      3. +7
        16 March 2018 09: 53
        Do not go to you ....... State Department bot.
      4. +4
        16 March 2018 22: 08
        Quote: Greenwood
        First you need to master Russia, and then swing to the moon and Mars.

        What part of Russia is not mastered?
        1. +8
          17 March 2018 10: 07
          The question is posed incorrectly. It is more logical to ask which one is mastered.
          1. +2
            17 March 2018 13: 09
            Quote: Greenwood
            The question is posed incorrectly. It is more logical to ask which one is mastered.

            Is the glass half empty or half full?
          2. +4
            18 March 2018 14: 52
            Moscow and Peter. According to the slaves of the Russian oligarchy, other regions of the Russian Federation do not need to be mastered, because there is no life beyond the Moscow Ring Road.
            1. +1
              18 March 2018 21: 42
              By what criteria do you determine which territory is developed and which is not?
        2. +10
          18 March 2018 06: 35
          All of Siberia and half of the Far East. Drive 50-80 km away from the main highway and the Russian Railways and you will be enlightened. The desire to ask stupid questions will also disappear.
          1. +4
            18 March 2018 21: 38
            Quote: shinobi
            The desire to ask stupid questions will also disappear.

            So, take care of arranging undeveloped territories, for example, laying a railroad beyond the Arctic Circle - so that they do not beg for stupid answers.

            By what criteria do you determine which territory is developed and which is not?
            1. +2
              20 March 2018 19: 09
              Quote: Setrac
              So, take care of arranging undeveloped territories, for example, laying a railroad beyond the Arctic Circle - so that they do not beg for stupid answers.

              Take care.
              And the questions ... only you ask here, what do you want to say?
              1. +2
                20 March 2018 19: 19
                Quote: badens1111
                Take care.
                And the questions ... only you ask here, what do you want to say?

                I want to say that your pathos words about undeveloped territories would sound appropriate from the lips of a person who is engaged in this same development, and does not sit all day in a warm office. All these discussions about undeveloped territories are just a way to fool money from the state! The reality is that in Russia unfavorable living conditions for people and people go to where the climate is better - to the southern regions, abroad, and to invest huge sums to where no one lives - this is not very smart and negatively characterizes those people who this issue raise.
                1. +2
                  21 March 2018 11: 22
                  You do not transfer your fantasies to the heads of other people.
                  Quote: Setrac
                  The reality is that in Russia unfavorable living conditions for people and people go to where the climate is better - to the southern regions, abroad, and to invest huge sums to where no one lives - this is not very smart and negatively characterizes those people who this issue raise.

                  This is called the absolute stupidity of the tradesman who does not completely understand what Russia is in general and what its tasks are, including the development of territories.
                  1. +2
                    21 March 2018 21: 31
                    Quote: badens1111
                    You do not transfer your fantasies to the heads of other people.

                    That is, you do not even know that Russia is the coldest country in the world.
                    Quote: badens1111
                    This is called the absolute stupidity of the tradesman who does not completely understand what Russia is in general and what its tasks are, including the development of territories.

                    You don’t need this balabol about tasks and higher goals, you remember about the higher race, we are not discussing “my struggle” here. Ride and live a couple of years in the Far North. I’ve lived for ten years in the glorious city of Kogalym, so I’ll tell you directly - nifiga is not the Krasnodar Territory.
        3. +2
          18 March 2018 09: 04
          For the Urals for example. People are moving to the western regions. And Mars is good too.
          1. +1
            18 March 2018 21: 43
            By what criteria do you determine which territory is developed and which is not?
        4. 0
          18 March 2018 13: 25
          Moscow and Rublevo - Uspenskoe highway
          1. +1
            18 March 2018 21: 42
            Quote: mac789
            Moscow and Rublevo - Uspenskoe highway

            Quote: shinobi
            shinobi

            Quote: zoolu350
            zoolu350

            Quote: Greenwood
            Greenwood

            How children have to chew! By what criteria do you determine which territory is developed and which is not?
            1. +4
              18 March 2018 23: 43
              You come to Rublevek and immediately see where my taxes go. So there to master and master. Although, of course, something thermobaric would be better there ... At least more justly.
              1. +2
                19 March 2018 12: 03
                Quote: mac789
                Although, of course, something thermobaric would be better there ... At least more justly.

                So are you one of these? Which "select and share" !! Practice has shown that sharing always goes in favor of the divider. You do not care about justice!
                Quote: mac789
                You come to Rublevek

                You want to participate in the section to your advantage.
                1. +1
                  20 March 2018 09: 18
                  Do you want to join?
                  Well, then take back my share ... I will have enough moral satisfaction.
                  By the way, your penny in each of these estates is also available ...
                  1. +2
                    20 March 2018 19: 01
                    Quote: mac789
                    By the way, your penny in each of these estates is also available ...

                    There is, lodge. However, if the world is not perfect, this does not mean that it must be destroyed.
                    1. +1
                      20 March 2018 19: 14
                      Quote: Setrac
                      However, if the world is not perfect, this does not mean that it must be destroyed.

                      In this case, your role under gentlemen is one serf who pays taxes for everything and everyone. It remains to recall only Senor Tomato and the tax on rain, thunder and wind ..
                      You are asking one question to everyone here-
                      Do you call for such an organization of society? In this case, Mars and the Moon are not needed.
                      Quote: Setrac
                      By what criteria do you determine which territory is developed and which is not?

                      You yourself then answer him, not balabolstov, but have the answer?
                      And it’s not enough that the country's connectivity has already been broken, due to the exorbitant prices for many transport, so you’re also talking about the criteria ... They were going to seize the railway completely, what is this criterion?
                      1. +1
                        20 March 2018 19: 23
                        Quote: badens1111
                        In this case, your role under gentlemen is one serf, paying taxes for everything and everyone.

                        Do you suggest not paying taxes? Generally abandon statehood? Are you out of your mind?
                        Quote: badens1111
                        You yourself then answer him, not balabolstov, but have the answer?

                        The answer is simple - the territory is developed in proportion to how favorable it is for living in climatic conditions.
                        Apparently, I can’t wait for your option, well, not everyone is given.
                    2. +1
                      20 March 2018 21: 45
                      Funny ... "... the world is not perfect - this does not mean that it must be destroyed" ...
                      What is it that has accumulated in the Rublevka area, that a small thermobaric cracker will tear the World apart, like a drop of nicotine - a hamster? ...
                      Methane accumulated as a result of decomposition? ... laughing
                      1. +1
                        20 March 2018 22: 36
                        Quote: mac789
                        What is it that has accumulated in the Rublevka area, that a small thermobaric cracker will tear the World apart, like a drop of nicotine - a hamster? ...

                        This ruble was given to you !!! Those who steal from the state don't buy mansions in rubles, but in completely different countries.
      5. +4
        19 March 2018 16: 21
        I agree with a colleague! We have roads beyond the Urals, only federals! The rest is winter roads and frozen rivers .... what moon, what mars? There is space, only people live!
    2. +4
      16 March 2018 06: 55
      Quote: Theodore
      First you need to master the moon! And then to swing at Mars.

      late ... the Americans "mastered" almost 50 years ago ... though now they cannot reach the ISS ....
      1. +4
        16 March 2018 09: 25
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Americans "mastered" almost 50 years ago
        Not mastered, but subdued!
        Between conquest and development, usually 100 years pass.
        And do not always master the conquerors.
    3. +10
      16 March 2018 07: 42
      Quote: Theodore
      First you need to master the moon!
      If the spacecraft can shuttle between the Earth and Mars for 5-10 years, then is it worthwhile to get hung up on the moon?
      Enter one transporter per year and carry cargoes alternately.
      The “trick” is different: with the advent of the current megawatt, interplanetary flights are simplified, but leaving the planet is still difficult, because it will primarily be aimed at asteroids.
      Another thing is that with a RNSTK carrying capacity of, say, 150 tons, about 50 tons will go to the moon, and if there is a transport spacecraft with nuclear propulsion in orbit - 120 minimum.
      As far as I understand in "sausage scraps", the refrigerator-emitter is the most difficult part of the system ...
      1. AUL
        +9
        16 March 2018 08: 48
        In an article on a serious topic - as usual, a mistake:
        According to Makarov, the IRM successfully completed testing of heat-conducting elements (TVEL) for this installation
        TVEL - a fuel element!
        Journalists, their mother is chicken ...
      2. +5
        16 March 2018 09: 09
        Quote: Simargl
        If the spacecraft can shuttle between the Earth and Mars for 5-10 years, then is it worthwhile to get hung up on the moon?


        Helium 3
        1. +8
          16 March 2018 09: 11
          Quote: Simargl
          meaning go in cycles on the moon?

          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Helium 3
          To begin with - let them work out the technology of use.
          1. +2
            16 March 2018 10: 00
            Quote: Simargl
            To begin with, let them work out the use technology


            morning helium, evening technology

            the technology will probably be, and the prospects for the supply of helium are foggy,
            1. +3
              16 March 2018 10: 19
              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              the technology will probably be, and the prospects for the supply of helium are foggy,
              You are not on the topic, as I understand it: the fact is that the use of Helium-3 applies both to fundamental (there is no sufficiently stable commercially favorable reaction) and applied fields of physics, but you can start its production on the Moon with the current level of technology (the issue is the cost).
            2. 0
              20 March 2018 13: 33
              Gazprom is building a helium plant, and there you can separate Helium-2 and Helium-3.
              1. +1
                20 March 2018 19: 03
                Quote: Gogia
                Gazprom is building a helium plant, and there you can separate Helium-2 and Helium-3.

                It will be cheaper to get Helium-3 on the Moon, but they will also work on the option with their own production.
      3. +10
        16 March 2018 11: 30
        Quote: Simargl
        Another thing is that with a RNSTK carrying capacity of, say, 150 tons, about 50 tons will go to the moon, and if there is a transport spacecraft with nuclear propulsion in orbit - 120 minimum.

        That's what bothers me. The claimed thrust of electric rocket engines is 750 mN with a power consumption of 35 kW. It follows that with a power of 1 MW and several engines, the thrust will be 21,4 N. Your 120-ton ship with this thrust will receive an acceleration of only 0,00018 m / s / s - 15,4 m / s per day, 460 m / s per month. Not much. For a twenty-ton, it looks a little more gracious - 92,4 m / s per day, 2772 m / s per month, but still not very cool. It can be assumed that the first ships will be even lighter, or multi-reactor circuits will be used (but where and how then to place radiators?), Or (and this seems more likely) electric rocket engines with a specific impulse of less than 7000 will be used, but with a larger one (at that same power) traction. But do they exist? Time will tell, we will see how events will develop. Not long left.
        In general, it seems to me that at first this gizmo has more military uses than scientific and space ones. Reconnaissance, the fight against enemy satellites, changing orbits and repairing your own - is it enough?
        And one more thing: an underwater autonomous apparatus, a cruise missile, an electric missile transport system - clearly the fruits of one project. And if everything goes well, then Mask will deflate like a punctured condom. If only we had not been eaten up to that time.
        1. +3
          16 March 2018 13: 30
          Quote: astepanov
          With this traction, your 120-ton ship will receive an acceleration of just 0,00018 m / s / s - 15,4 m / s per day, 460 m / s per month. Not much.
          That you took the lower bar of 30% efficiency. You can (not boldly feel ) hope that there are options at 60%. Still not a lot ...
          However, for the first flyby, only about 30-50 tons are needed, taking into account the nuclear power plant (I do not think that it is light).
          In addition, she should not be alone (3-5 pieces, I suppose, otherwise you can get stuck), so ...
          You can count on an acceleration of 0,0012, or 100 ++ m / s per day ... or even 300 ++
          Well, a truck in 120 ++ tons is not 1 MW, but 15-20 should be a minimum.
          The joke is that this thing should work for 10 years on one "charge", i.e. drag a lot over your life cycle. Hence, many conclusions can be drawn.

          Quote: astepanov
          And if everything goes well, then Mask will deflate like a punctured condom.
          So far, he is only pushing it out at the NOU. And succeeded in this. I don’t think that NASA doesn’t work on nuclear power plants, but if they do, they’ll hand it out to anyone.
          1. +2
            16 March 2018 15: 33
            Quote: Simargl
            That you took the lower bar of 30% efficiency.
            In the announcement of the engine efficiency is indicated - 65%. Google "The role and place of electric rocket engines in the Russian space program" is a good article, from which it seems to follow that there are no necessary engines yet.
            1. +1
              16 March 2018 16: 05
              Quote: astepanov
              In the announcement of the engine efficiency is indicated - 65%
              Then the thrust is 30-35 N, if not more.
              Quote: it seems to be normally described, although there is little information relevant today
              fb.ru/article/192506/yadernyie-dvigateli-dlya-kos
              micheskih-ships

              Above, offhand, pretty accurately estimated the parameters
              Quote: Design parameters of MB “Hercules”
              useful electric power of a nuclear power unit is 550 kW;
              specific impulse ERDU - 30 km / s;
              draft ERDU - 26 H;
              Resource NPI and ERDU - 16 000 h;
              the working body of the propulsion - xenon;
              Tug weight (dry) - 14,5-15,7 t, including NPI - 6,9 t.
              Two will give more than 50N (we live !!! fellow )
              1. 0
                16 March 2018 16: 59
                Quote: Simargl
                Tug weight (dry) - 14,5-15,7 t, including NPI - 6,9 t.
                Two will give more than 50N (we live !!!
                Well, this is already something: acceleration of 3 mm / s / s, 275 m / s per day. But this is for a “dry” tugboat, but you also need to carry a payload.
        2. 0
          20 March 2018 13: 36
          You forgot that the satellite already has speed in orbit. The working fluid, depending on what to use. The heavier the molecules, the better.
      4. +1
        17 March 2018 07: 56
        At least because on the Moon it is possible to organize the construction of more capacious and stronger ships, due to the fact that on it gravity is almost 6 times less than on Earth. Relatively speaking. On the moon, you can build and launch a ship that, under the conditions of Earth's gravity, could not withstand its own weight. There you can at least build space "Trucks" and "Buses".
        1. +2
          17 March 2018 13: 45
          Quote: Mustachioed Kok
          on the moon it is possible to organize the construction of more capacious and stronger ships, due to the fact that on it gravity is almost 6 times less than on Earth.
          What for?! At the DOE, this is more convenient.
        2. 0
          18 March 2018 13: 31
          Well, then you can build such things on earth ... And put them into orbit ... Only show ingenuity.
      5. 0
        18 March 2018 14: 56
        Yeah, only how much will they accelerate it with engines with a thrust of several kilograms?
        1. 0
          20 March 2018 09: 22
          Well, yes. To orbit, at least as if on a burner ... Although ... If you are smart (I can not stand the word creativity)
    4. +7
      16 March 2018 13: 32
      First, you need rockets to fly to space before laughing not fall into the ocean! Article written by Ragozin or something lol
  2. +14
    16 March 2018 06: 48
    What a pity it will end soon. The elections will be held, and again they will forget about these "projects" ...
    And so you read, and you rejoice for Russia, and at once a dream! I want to live in Russia! laughing
    1. +6
      16 March 2018 07: 51
      Quote: Bastinda
      What a pity it will end soon. The elections will be held, and again they will forget about these "projects" ...
      Well, why? About a megawatt for about five years they ring.
    2. +4
      16 March 2018 08: 19
      Well, this is the main goal of such projects ... Dreaming of a good life.
      1. +15
        16 March 2018 08: 28
        Russian can laugh at the backwardness of Russia, they can criticize the authorities, but if someone else tries to do it .... am laughing
      2. +15
        16 March 2018 10: 00
        The dream of a good life is a normal state of a healthy psyche. The only question is what is a good life?
        For example, for representatives of one nation it means more money, and power over humanity. Relatively speaking.
        But for us Russians, the dream to master space is the same about a good life, it turns out.
        But lovers of sausage well-being certainly do not understand this.
        The mysterious Russian soul ... Take it as a fact.
  3. 0
    16 March 2018 06: 51
    very beautiful layouts, like in films about the future!
    1. +3
      16 March 2018 07: 54
      Quote: Salute
      like in films about the future!
      Yeah! Sinenky in more laughing
      The first photo is the Union on Kura.
  4. +5
    16 March 2018 07: 19
    The last picture, where Mars is not scaled to the scale of the Earth, comprehensively characterizes this project.
    As well as a list of sources of "information" from the four state-owned washers.
    1. +3
      16 March 2018 10: 24
      Quote: Cherry Nine
      where Mars is not scaled to the Earth
      And so they will be “not on a scale” relative to each other, from somewhere in the orbit of Pluto.
      And the fact that there they took photoshopped magazines does not characterize the project!
      1. +1
        17 March 2018 14: 06
        Quote: Simargl
        And so they will be "not on a scale" relative to each other, from somewhere in the orbit of Pluto

        A dot in the middle of the right light bar.

        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot
        1. +1
          17 March 2018 14: 16
          Quote: Cherry Nine
          A dot in the middle of the right light bar.
          Now take normal optics with zoom, increase and ...
          If it’s not clear, I’ll explain: look at the nearest planet and the Sun — don’t you notice that the planet occupies a significant part of the field of view? Now try to imagine yourself on the moon: that planet is already roughly equal to the sun.
          So there you go! It's all about angular sizes!
    2. +2
      16 March 2018 11: 33
      Thirty bucks, sitting in Mattress, do you want to work out? But the owners, it seems, takes envy. If everything grows together, then they will have to start up the Mask around the world and use our transport.
  5. +5
    16 March 2018 07: 36
    Putin said yesterday that he would send a mission to Mars in 2019 ... (On a trampoline, probably ...)
    1. +3
      16 March 2018 09: 13
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Putin said yesterday that he would send a mission to Mars in 2019 ...
      A clunker like Phobos-soil or Ilomobile - at least every year.
      1. +1
        16 March 2018 09: 41
        at least every year.

        laughing lol love You can promise correctly, at least every year ...
      2. +1
        16 March 2018 10: 03
        But what about the ilonomobile - did Putin also launch?
        I knew it...
        1. +2
          16 March 2018 11: 09
          Immediately from the start, the fancy-car ilomobile decided to go into an asteroid cuvette instead of Mars.
      3. +2
        16 March 2018 22: 17
        Quote: Simargl
        car

        maskomobile - sounds better
    2. +2
      16 March 2018 11: 35
      Oh, another "Judah from there" drew. Are you afraid of an umbrella with meldonium? Your masters also poke - for political reasons. Before they say: "Nothing personal ..."
    3. SVD
      0
      16 March 2018 13: 26
      Take your time to torment! You will be the second series of "SATELLITE"!
  6. +3
    16 March 2018 07: 59
    All this, of course, will be. But then. After the election. In the meantime, (this year) Roskosmos has fewer launches than Japan.
    1. +12
      16 March 2018 09: 16
      Quote: ares1988
      In the meantime, (this year) Roskosmos has fewer launches than Japan.

      But don’t you tell me, is Kanai Norishige going to start on the ISS on March 21, from such a Japanese spaceport?
      1. +2
        16 March 2018 10: 04
        Do not react, this is a troll in its purest form, and unwise.
        1. +2
          16 March 2018 12: 10
          Mestny IQ test deigned to take from me? I do not remember this.
        2. 0
          17 March 2018 03: 53
          But I do not agree with you. Most likely not a troll. hi
      2. 0
        16 March 2018 12: 14
        Of course not. Cosmonauts are delivered to the ISS at the Unions - who argues. Which does not negate the fact that the RK flies extremely rarely this year (as already mentioned - less often than Japan). And the monopolies of the Republic of Kazakhstan for the delivery of astronauts to the ISS did not remain long - the second Dragon was on its way.
        1. 0
          17 March 2018 03: 26
          You know, statistics, it’s a peculiar thing. The Russian rocket with the Russian starting crew this year left Kourou, but Wikipedia (you got the data from there, right?) Considers this to be a European start. Strange, but why not for the Guyanese, for example. So with Japan, Roscosmos now has parity. So, by the way.
  7. FID
    +8
    16 March 2018 08: 50
    Too few mentions of Medvedev ... He issues decrees, and the rest will follow ... And the whole Universe, sorry Univers, is before us ...
  8. +1
    16 March 2018 08: 59
    The engine has successfully reached Mars and back is good, but have you solved many other problems with the same radiation protection, for example?
    1. +1
      16 March 2018 09: 11
      Quote: Voyager
      a wigger successfully reaching Mars and vice versa is good, but have you solved many other problems with the same radiation protection, for example?


      as well as the problems of hormonal balance of potential colonizers
  9. +4
    16 March 2018 09: 36
    Science fiction in the pages of VO. It's time to introduce a new section with this name .... And the section "photos and videos" to add the word "cartoons".
    1. +8
      16 March 2018 09: 51
      And the subheading is pre-election science fiction, where the phrases are obligatory ... "not having .... in the world", "before 2019", "until 2020-2025",
  10. +6
    16 March 2018 09: 45
    you definitely need to look at the moon, set there by Hollywood, the mattress flag ..... Nevertheless, I think that nobody will find him there .... Of course, the stellar will say that it was blown away either by the wind and the lunatics were stolen, like ---- you don’t you see, but it is there ......... The second moment that comes to mind immediately is all sorts of intergalactic tournaments, starting with chess and so on, will we also participate in them without a flag and anthem? If at all allowed ..... laughing
    In general, the news is certainly interesting, pleasant! And I completely agree with the statement of Comrade Koschey -
    [/ quote] [quote = К0ше] If you do not strive for more, there will be no small.
    ... Very true rule !!!!! "Do you want a beer, ask for vodka !!!"
    Frankly, such news, against the backdrop of all events, brightens the current reality .... good
    1. +6
      16 March 2018 12: 37
      "installed there by Hollywood, a mattress flag ..." ///

      Five flags. Four are standing, one is lying (fell during take-off of the landing module)
      Here is a photo from Lunar Orbiter. Sharp rectangular shadow - from a standing flag
  11. +6
    16 March 2018 09: 47
    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Quote: Voyager
    a wigger successfully reaching Mars and vice versa is good, but have you solved many other problems with the same radiation protection, for example?


    as well as the problems of hormonal balance of potential colonizers

    Yes, there can be no talk of colonization, at least fly without losing health and make a flyby around, even without landing, this is a big step forward.
    1. +2
      16 March 2018 10: 29
      Quote: Voyager
      Yes, colonization is out of the question so far
      I wrote above that between conquering (the first visit, proving the very possibility of this) and development (in particular - colonization) - about 100 years usually pass. That is, if people visit Mars by the age of 40-50, then they will begin to gain a foothold by 2150 and beyond.
      1. +2
        16 March 2018 12: 50
        Perhaps, but not a fact. There is not even experience and an example as such, and we have no idea what might happen in 20 years, not like in 50-100
        1. +1
          16 March 2018 13: 51
          Quote: Voyager
          Experience and example as such are not even
          Uh ... actually, almost everywhere. Now, it seems, it has become faster: the first flight of 1961, that is, by 2060 there will be a routine.
          1. +1
            16 March 2018 14: 59
            Flying and colonization are kind of different things, aren't they?) And now it's not the 2060s to know what will be there
  12. +9
    16 March 2018 10: 01
    Of course, I am happy for our scientists, but when I get a pension, I think about something completely different. I agree if everyone lived like that, then for science it is possible to tolerate, but I know that people like me must endure. Explain to me why I need the moon and Mars? Missiles and tanks so that there is no war, and the moon and Mars? There is no money, but you hold on! Down with Putin!
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    2. +1
      16 March 2018 11: 50
      This crap is not so much for the moon and Mars as for fighting the satellite constellation of our "partners." Consider the same space tank.
    3. +1
      16 March 2018 13: 41
      Quote: steel maker
      Explain to me why I need the moon and Mars?
      Maybe so that I can then receive a pension? Or your grandchildren ...
      After 100 years, it will turn out that there will be countries mastering the solar system and the rest.
      Quote: steel maker
      Missiles and tanks so that there is no war, and the moon and Mars?
      The moon is supposed to have energy for the production of rockets and tanks. Mars - other minerals ...
      I understand that looking a little further than the day after tomorrow is hard.
      Quote: steel maker
      There is no money, but you hold on! Down with Putin!
      Weak connection.
      1. +3
        16 March 2018 16: 25
        The connection may be weak. But why do we need the moon. I conquer it every single day. I make my little old moon rover in the morning and where in 2 bands, where in 3, where at 0.5 lol and every time I dream about conquering neighboring planets, interrupting for selective Russian speech, remembering the road tax, excise tax, and road workers, when the lunar rover’s wheel falls into another crater lol I feel like they’ll soon become square. I’ll finish the work and again go to ride around the lunar landscape to my home. The moon and Mars in the future is excellent good but eat hotstsa at least 3 times a day hi
        1. +2
          16 March 2018 22: 22
          Quote: Korax71
          why do we need the moon

          Why do you need a pension? No reason.
          And nobody offers you the moon. Why do you need Siberia? Ask the English.
          1. 0
            17 March 2018 03: 33
            And let's, as in China! There is haraso autumn, there are communists. There are decent pensions. (well, every one of the four people is of retirement age, the other three have no pensions)
            1. +1
              17 March 2018 13: 11
              Quote: tanit
              And let's, as in China!

              This Korax71 is just as duplicitous as an American politician. You see, he doesn’t need the moon, and he requires pensions for income from Siberia, which, like the moon, doesn’t need him.
              1. +2
                17 March 2018 16: 30
                Quote: Setrac
                This Korax71 is just as duplicitous as an American politician.

                Also a whiner.
                Quote: Korax71
                in the morning I’m looking for my little old moon rover and where in 2 stripes, where in 3, where in 0.5
                Eats not 3 times a day, but has a "moon rover" ?! Means, eats 4 or more times a day ?!
                Quote: Korax71
                falls into another crater I feel soon square will
                On a high profile (old CheпFor example, there would be nothing to worry about, therefore - lying again (the "lunar rover" is also not quite cheap)!
                On shoulder straps you need to write and position - brehlo bully !
        2. +1
          17 March 2018 07: 50
          Quote: Korax71
          Communication may be weak
          So can or weak?! Or you do not know (then why talk?)
          Quote: Korax71
          but why do we need the moon
          No us, You! For all of humanity and Russians in particular, do not dare to speak, as you voluntarily withdrew from building a future for yourself and your descendants! And why the moon in the future - I already wrote above. It’s not clear - re-read until you insert it! am
          From my life experience I can say that despite his young age, he didn’t always eat 2 times a day, while we had seams with space! As soon as space began to improve, Doshirak disappeared in the diet and meat appeared! Communication may be weak, but somehow!
    4. +3
      16 March 2018 17: 19
      ... when I get a pension, I think about something else .... Explain to me why I need the moon and Mars?

      Well, like “why?” You will fly to Mars for your "retirement", and for "compensation" - to the Moon ...
    5. +3
      16 March 2018 17: 59
      It’s better to ask why I don’t need the Moon and Mars, but why do I need all kinds of “Moonlit Glades”!
      But the Moon and Mars - there is no need in themselves, but cosmos should be explored and “mastered” in order to protect the Earth and humanity from the dangers emanating from there: known - asteroids, and still unknown, distant, but inevitable. Powerful engines and other space technologies are needed for all this. But now, to launch a nuclear engine, we need safe rockets with payload rescue like rescue astronauts of the union, ships suitable for repairing satellites in space, such as shuttles, international agreements, etc. Since Russia does not have all this, and not is expected, then all this fuss so far is similar to the fruit of sick fantasies.
  13. +4
    16 March 2018 10: 35
    Quote: Fox
    Quote: Greenwood
    First you need to master Russia,

    in 6 years they will master ... and there will be no trace.

    Traces of the "development" and "optimization" of Russia will remain, but it is very sad. winked
    1. 0
      16 March 2018 11: 11
      "Don’t cry the girl will rain"
  14. +7
    16 March 2018 11: 20
    ... tested full-scale fuel elements, which are planned to be used in such reactors.
    “Buki” and “Topaz” were used to create an all-weather system for monitoring surface targets throughout the oceans and issuing target designation with the transfer of weapons to command vehicles or command posts - the system of marine space reconnaissance and target designation (ICRC) “Legend” (1978) . The ICRC “Legend” included two types of spacecraft: a satellite with an on-board radar station and a US-A nuclear power plant, as well as a satellite with a US-P radio-reconnaissance space station equipped with a solar power plant.

    ... starts / stops of nuclear reactors from different countries of the World. Blue glow - Vavilov-Cherenkov effect, caused by the passage of particles through water at a speed exceeding the phase velocity of light inside the medium bully .
  15. +3
    16 March 2018 12: 50
    Experts identify the following advantages of nuclear power plants:
    - The ability to fly to Mars in the 1,5 month and go back, while the flight using conventional rocket engines can take up to 1,5 years without the ability to go back.
    Hmm, it’s impressive ... new opportunities for the development of world astronautics, opening up thanks to the successes of Russian scientists and designers, I think, will cheer up all forum users here on the VO website. laughing
    1. +2
      16 March 2018 13: 33
      People, well, of course everything can be crap and it’s easiest to do it, especially when you don’t understand anything in physics, in thermodynamics, or in sound technologies .... I honestly don’t understand a damn thing .... but to believe something I want in our bright future .... well, I understand something in physics and radio waves, in engines .... I don’t understand shit .... everyone just bends their fingers like a fan .... even if someone admitted that he’s stupid ))) wink
      1. +1
        19 March 2018 16: 43
        The successes of Russian scientists and designers are just amazing, but for many Russophobes here on the site this will not cause joy, but gloom - and the expression "will cheer up" applies to all forum users, some in the literal sense (who is really happy for our successes) and others in figurative.
        Z.Y. To be correctly understood. Yes
  16. 0
    16 March 2018 13: 36
    if they do, the DESIGNER, it will turn out, if the academics will succeed, the Collider.
  17. +1
    16 March 2018 13: 46
    To begin the practical implementation of the project, it is necessary to exhaust all theoretical developments. But there are problems with this.
    1. 0
      16 March 2018 22: 30
      So when, my friend Gridasov, will we see your nuclear engine, yes without nuclear materials, as you promised? I ask you everything, I’m afraid, I still can’t answer. sad
      1. +1
        16 March 2018 22: 40
        And I ask you everything and ask where the report should be sent.
        1. 0
          16 March 2018 22: 49
          What report do I not understand? Send me the answer to the question here.
  18. +1
    16 March 2018 13: 48
    All this is good. But we badly need a reusable spaceship. The Americans have already created a dangerous space group for us. They have special ships that spend a lot of time with an unknown task in outer space. One such ship all summer 2010, when we had fires hung over the territory of Russia. Today, when the United States intends to dramatically strengthen space troops and threaten us from outer space, we urgently need a space fighter (to destroy their satellites), and urgent development of a space bomber project.
    1. +4
      16 March 2018 22: 45
      We need a lot more. For example, free healthcare, and not bullshit and fiction, as it is now, etc. etc. Through space - reusable rockets, payload rescue systems, spacecraft with Shuttle capabilities, and much more.
      1. +1
        17 March 2018 07: 58
        Quote: Falcon5555
        We need a lot more.
        Cookies
        I dare to assure: without a well-developed space program there will be nothing!
        1. 0
          17 March 2018 14: 06
          Cookies
          Cutlets?
          I dare to assure: without a well-developed space program there will be nothing!
          And how dare you? belay
          1. +2
            17 March 2018 16: 31
            Quote: Falcon5555
            And how dare you?
            Impudent tongue
  19. +2
    16 March 2018 14: 05
    Quote: Greenwood
    First you need to master Russia, and then swing to the moon and Mars. Yes


    All your and our "predecessors" were just doing this - "mastered" and appropriated Russia .. It’s time to already begin to equip! hi
  20. +2
    16 March 2018 14: 31
    Quote: steel maker
    Of course, I am happy for our scientists, but when I get a pension, I think about something completely different. I agree if everyone lived like that, then for science it is possible to tolerate, but I know that people like me must endure. Explain to me why I need the moon and Mars? Missiles and tanks so that there is no war, and the moon and Mars? There is no money, but you hold on! Down with Putin!


    Why does a person volunteer for war, and do not hide in an abandoned village, knowing that they are likely to be killed? Why does a parent build a house on his "grave" son, the last-born, not being sure that he will see at least one grandson? Why do doctors and relatives save the crippled, knowing that he will still be tormented? .. Why does a real woman give birth to a daughter alone. knowing that pretty hinted at?

    Here you are, old, experienced, seen a lot .. But you still have not learned to understand life and its meaning, alas ...

    Unit! -
    Who needs it ?!
    Unit voice
    thinner squeak.
    Who will hear her? -
    Is the wife!
    And then
    if not in the market,
    but close.
    The people are
    it
    single hurricane
    compressed from votes
    quiet and thin
    From him
    burst
    strengthening the enemy
    like a cannonade
    from guns
    membranes.
    Bad man
    when he is alone
    Woe to one
    one is not a warrior -
    every hefty
    him lord
    and even weak
    if two.
    And if the
    among the people with shoulders
    small crowded -
    surrender, enemy
    stand still
    and lie down!
    The people are
    one million hands
    compressed
    into one
    ripping fist.
    Unit is nonsense
    the unit is zero,
    one -
    even
    very important -
    will not raise
    simple
    five-hole log,
    a fortiori
    five-story house ....

    (PS: Replaced some words, but not the meaning ..)

    The people and the motherland are not only this hour, they are both in time and space ..

    I live geographically not in Russia, although on Russian soil, but I feel a kinship with my kindred, our land, ancestors, with all Russian, in the past and future. I’m already pretty good for years, and almost certainly during my life they won’t get anywhere seriously ... But if they only start trying, they try, if people become even a little happier. smarter and calmer, it will be easy and joyful for me to leave!
  21. +2
    16 March 2018 15: 00
    From the article it seems that the reactor is separate, and the engine is separate. Those. the reactor gives electricity, and then in the engine ... and FIG knows what, in order to get such magical parameters. In this case, heat is discharged, i.e. the reactor is quite a classic. Why is heat not being utilized with the flow of exhaust gas? In short, there is little information, and what is - some kind of crap.
    1. +1
      16 March 2018 15: 13
      Quote: groks
      Why is heat not being utilized with the flow of exhaust gas?
      Probably because heat is energy?
      Another thing is that the working fluid (potassium, or what will be there?) Can be heated, but there is such a small consumption of the working fluid ... does it make sense to bother?
      1. +1
        16 March 2018 20: 29
        This NRE is rather the same liquid-phase NRE, plus the power plant - hydrogen + oxygen fuel with an impulse when passing the active zone of 8927 m / s But there is a project “Nuclear rocket engine on a homogeneous solution of salts of nuclear fuel” In the concept proposed by Zubrin, nuclear fuel, in fact, at the same time plays the role of a working fluid ejected from the nozzle of the engine. Such fuel is an aqueous solution of uranium tetrabromide enriched up to 20% in the U-235 isotope. The concentration of this salt in an aqueous solution can reach 30%. For such a solution (in the case of one storage tank), the critical mass will be several tens of kilograms. To prevent the onset of a chain reaction in containers, the latter should be made of neutron-absorbing materials corresponding to the geometry — for example, in the form of thin tubes of boron carbide. The device of the engine itself is as follows. Fuel from the storage tanks is supplied to the reaction chamber in such an amount and at such a rate that the chain reaction (starting in the chamber) reaches its maximum near the end of the engine block (respectively, of the ship). In essence, an area of ​​constant “nuclear combustion” or “slow nuclear explosion” is created directly behind the engine nozzle. The high temperature in the reaction zone evaporates the water of the working fluid and creates draft by the exhaust of high-temperature gas. So, according to some estimates, with a nuclear fuel burn-up efficiency of 0,8, the working fluid expiration velocity for such a nuclear engine will be 66000 m / s, specific impulse is 6730 seconds, engine power is 427 GW, thrust is 12,7 meganyewton, thrust ratio = 40, mass engine 33 tons.
        1. +1
          16 March 2018 22: 32
          Nonsense is all that.
        2. +1
          17 March 2018 01: 33
          these developments have been going on for many years, and the engine for deep space cannot be used in the Earth’s atmosphere - (or not?). And the fact that there are developments and can be used is clear from the use of engines with nuclear power plants in the Cosmos series satellites. The most important thing is that the time format for use is very many years (no exact mathematical calculus is given due to the lack of an experimental sample).
  22. +3
    16 March 2018 15: 24
    What can I say a promising thing. happy that people are working on it, look in the near future we will see similar things
  23. 0
    16 March 2018 16: 23
    that's just the "PROGRESSIVE PART" of this humanity for some reason do not consider RUSSIA to be part of humanity !!! they already live on another planet
  24. +2
    16 March 2018 19: 48
    Funny right. All here the lips rolled out not childishly. It is as if in a year or two our nuclear-powered rockets will plow space. Not everything is done so quickly with us as it is written on paper. It may take five or even ten years.
    1. +2
      16 March 2018 20: 33
      Well, somewhere after 2030 - the offices of various departments and the Russian Space Agency will surf.
  25. +9
    16 March 2018 21: 54
    What is the difference between the current Russian cosmonautics and the Soviet?
    In the USSR, they first launched the first satellite in the world, the first astronaut in the world, for the first time in the world went into outer space, launched the first automatic station on the moon, etc. etc. And only after that the world was notified in a tremendous voice of Levitan about another victory. The older generation remembers this historical phrase: "Moscow says! All the radio stations of the Soviet Union are working!" And frost on the skin. And the whole world is in shock and awe.
    Now, at first, a tremendous drum rumble and trumpet are heard in the timpani and the world learns that in about a lot of time an unprecedented, “having no analogues” achievement will be achieved. And then along Nasruddin.
    By the way, the author should pull up the basic knowledge.
    "Liquid rocket fuel is divided into oxidizer and fuel. These components are in various rocket tanks in a liquid state."
    For the author’s information, there are also single-component or unitary rocket fuels, for example, hydrogen peroxide, if we talk about liquid rocket fuel, or nitrocellulose, if we talk about solid.
  26. +3
    16 March 2018 23: 24
    The ability to fly to Mars in 1,5 months and return

    That crap, which is being developed, will never and never allow it to be done in a month and a half. This can only be possible with a completely different semi-fantastic NRE design, which is unlikely to ever be created.
    1. 0
      18 March 2018 00: 24
      In order to fly to Mars in 1,5 months and return back, it is necessary to develop a speed of about 40 kilometers per second, this task is also achievable on kerosene - hydrogen LRE, but this will require significant amounts of fuel.
      1. 0
        18 March 2018 10: 37
        According to rough estimates, it turns out that something is about 76 km / s at least, and then with aerodynamic drag both at the Earth and at Mars, otherwise add something of the order of 20 km / s. I don’t have accurate calculations right now. In general, accurate calculations say that a prohibitive amount of fuel will be needed, and such a rocket will never be built. For example, according to the Tsiolkovsky formula (without taking into account the rejection of steps) with a final mass of 10 tons, and if everything else is fuel, and at an outflow speed of 5 km / s to reach 76 km / s, the initial mass should be 40 million tons! laughing
        1. 0
          18 March 2018 11: 00
          Amendment to the first sentence - with aerodynamic braking from the second space velocity.
        2. 0
          19 March 2018 22: 24
          There is only one way out: to bring the ship to the GSO, and then the engines in the assembly with hydrogen and oxygen fuel tanks - it will be possible to add fluorine and magnesium to the fuel components, in order to reach a speed of 70 kilometers per second of a 10 ton apparatus, 1500 tons of this four component fuel will be needed.
          1. +1
            20 March 2018 00: 19
            Magnesium? Is it that she made a salute from orbit? Eh, sorry the opus disappeared, he would now, I suspect, familiarize you with the list of swear words he knows. laughing For a month and a half to Mars and for the same amount of return on any chemical fuel can not be reached, forget about it.
        3. 0
          30 May 2018 15: 57
          The megawatt class nuclear facility is supposed to generate electricity. Electricity is supposed to be used in plasma engines with an outflow rate of 100 m / s.
    2. +2
      18 March 2018 15: 30
      Of course, Yaedu is incapable of this with existing electric rocket engines (even plasma ones), theoretically kk with a ffard is capable of this.
  27. 0
    17 March 2018 13: 03
    storytellers, such storytellers. Reactor atom. The e-station is cooled by water from near. a reservoir (cooling towers, etc.), on a submarine and an aircraft carrier - onboard water, atmospheric nuclear - on an incoming air stream. How to cool the reactor in a vacuum, where there is no heat transfer?
    1. +1
      17 March 2018 14: 27
      Thermal radiation: "... a refrigerator-emitter (a system for the release of heat into space)"
    2. 0
      18 March 2018 02: 05
      Just as the aforementioned Topazes cooled on the Legend system satellites, all of a sudden.
  28. +1
    17 March 2018 14: 12
    Mother of God Skochitskaya !!! You leave me alone from the Moon and Mars! They don’t touch us, and we want to make them swine! Maybe first we’ll start living normally in our country! After all, the aliens can get angry in real life and give them crap guarantors, and presidents, and leaders. And no "Daggers" and lasers can save!
    1. 0
      18 March 2018 00: 25
      Now this is a race and Russia unfortunately lose it.
  29. +1
    18 March 2018 13: 38
    In the next 10-15 years, things are unlikely to go any further.
    1. 0
      19 March 2018 22: 26
      A working sample of nuclear power reactor is already at the stage of R&D completion.
      1. 0
        19 March 2018 23: 14
        About three years ago, I had to work a little on this topic - it was rotten, not a hat for Senka. Especially today, during the period of the next lack of money. We are no longer working in this direction.
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    1. +2
      18 March 2018 17: 20
      The author is not a specialist, the author is a propagandist-agitator. A command came to kick "Urya", he struck. Here the main thing is volume and not accuracy.
  31. +1
    18 March 2018 16: 12
    For a craving to appear, what substance will this engine emit? If in a dense atmosphere it is enough to twist the turbine and turbojet engine compressor like an airplane.
    But in a rarefied environment of space, what will we repel? We are being poisoned here, they say there will be no large tanks of fuel, oxidizer, displacer. But in my opinion, this is pure profanity - engine power will necessarily increase, but the working fluid for emitting a jet stream will also be required, it just doesn’t need an oxidizing agent, so you can simply take more “fuel” and the “fuel” itself can be non-combustible, by the type of water that will sufficiently evaporate and emit water vapor through nozzles.
    1. +2
      19 March 2018 22: 35
      This is a salt-water NRE - at the moment, the best fuel is a mixture in the combustion chamber of a liquid-propellant liquid propellant, hydrogen, fluorine, magnesium, and beryllium. The pulse is 560 seconds at a combustion temperature of 4800 degrees.
  32. 0
    20 March 2018 14: 06
    It is very good! Anyone who has mastered the cosmos and planets of the solar system will lead humanity and lead him forward to the stars.

    I think the concept is as follows:
    1. Nuclear Power Module
    2. LLC module
    3. Command module
    4. Residential module
    5. Takeoff and landing module

    All this is going to the space transport system (the same principle as the ISS MIR), radiation protection, etc. is mounted. Moreover, the configuration of the system may vary depending on the tasks. And then, colonists, supplies and other things necessary for the expedition arrive in the Soviet Union.
    This is all real and so close, if only they would not refuse to implement the idea conceived for the sake of earthly excesses
    1. 0
      21 March 2018 00: 30
      Wonderful ... ISS on 10 G ... Sprats will die again ... From laughter ...
  33. rbt
    0
    20 March 2018 14: 10
    Hooray, give the technological revolution!
    1. +1
      20 March 2018 19: 04
      Quote: rbt
      Hooray, give the technological revolution!

      She is at least ten years old.
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  36. 0
    21 March 2018 00: 26
    SetracIt seems to me you are a ruble deputy. How are the Cossacks - "... Lucifer himself secretary ..." laughing
  37. 0
    1 March 2019 13: 28
    Well done. Mo-lo-dts! Now tell us how you solved the problem of engine cooling? Without reliable cooling, this entire project is a fantasy.
  38. 0
    April 7 2022 11: 14
    I am from the future, ancient alliances continue to fly with us.