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In Ukraine, offended by Russia for the "fairy tale" about "Sarmat"

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The newest intercontinental ballistic missile "Sarmat" will not appear with the Russian military in the coming years, the director of the Ukrainian National Institute for Strategic Studies, Volodymyr Gorbulin, said, informs agency "Defense Industrial Courier."


In Ukraine, offended by Russia for the "fairy tale" about "Sarmat"


Gorbulin said that he was “frankly offended” by the recent speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin in front of the Federal Assembly, during which the Russian president “scared the world with tales” about the new heavy Sarmat Russian missile system, comparing it with the Voyevoda missile developed in the Ukrainian SSR (Satan according to the NATO nomenclature).

According to him, “telling tales of what kind of a rocket it is” in order for “everyone to get scared” is very incorrect.

Gorbulin added that he doubted the appearance of the “Sarmatian” on the combat duty of Russia in the near future, since it is also the so-called mass-sized dummy that passed the stage of throwing tests at the end of 2017.

Experience shows that 4-5 years pass from the first throwing test to the commissioning of such a complex on combat duty
- he said.

Gorbulin also doubted that in the near future Russia would be ready to get rid of “Voevod”.

Because there are no better rocket complexes in the world. This is not my assessment, it is an assessment of the Pentagon and the US Missile Defense Agency
- added the director of the Ukrainian National Institute for Strategic Studies.

We remind you that the newest heavy-duty Sarmat rocket is planned to be adopted in the 2019-2020 years. Work on the project began in 2011, the missile created will replace the Voyevoda complex developed in the USSR and mass-produced in Ukraine. In March, 2018, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov announced that their utilization would begin shortly.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 15 March 2018 11: 28
    +23
    In Ukraine, offended by Russia for the "fairy tale" about "Sarmat"
    On the offended balconies fall. Reminds all this around our new military developments this joke:
    Dad brings his son to the sea, brought him to the beach and explains:
    Dad: You see, son, this is the sea ..
    Son: (stupidly) Where?
    Dad: Well, this splashing is the sea ...
    Son: (still stupid) Where?
    P: (inflamed) Well, we are sitting on such yellow is sand, and there it is
    blue is the sea ..
    S: ... where?
    P: (furious) What you don’t understand, this is dry, yellow is
    sand, and then it’s blue, splashing, wet-THIS SEA !!!
    S: (stupidly) Where?
    Dad’s nerves can’t stand it, he grabs his son in extreme rage,
    and dunkes his head into the water with a cry "Here is the sea !!! Here it is !!! Here
    this is the Sea!! Here! "The son is choking, somehow escaping and with difficulty
    breathing asks
    -Dad, what was that?
    -Sea,% * "!!!
    -WHERE?
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 15 March 2018 11: 31
      +5
      Well, he doesn’t believe and do not, but they carry water to offended laughing .
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 15 March 2018 11: 40
        +4
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Well, he doesn’t believe and do not, but they carry water to offended ones.

        believe when the head falls
        1. Crowe
          Crowe 15 March 2018 12: 05
          +7
          With them, the Iskander is enough. It’s not good to spend such an expensive contraption on the “offended” ones. This is not Orthodox.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 15 March 2018 12: 08
            +3
            Quote: Crowe
            With them, the Iskander is enough.

            and the top ten will not be believed. stubborn laughing
            1. Crowe
              Crowe 15 March 2018 12: 56
              +4
              Quote: LSA57
              stubborn

              Stubborn yes
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 15 March 2018 13: 09
                +1
                Quote: Crowe
                Stubborn

                I don't want to laughing
      2. figwam
        figwam 15 March 2018 11: 50
        +3
        Experience shows that from the first throw test to the delivery of such a complex on combat duty takes 4-5 years.

        Testing and adopting the Voivode went on for 2 years, and this is in 70-80 years.
      3. vlad66
        vlad66 15 March 2018 11: 50
        +18
        The USSR created the "Satan" and indeed carry water offended. fool
        One girl is still brave. laughing
      4. CHARM
        CHARM 15 March 2018 19: 09
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        Well, he doesn’t believe and do not, but they carry water to offended laughing .

        Offended by itself causes pity. And carry water on this, .. either splashes, or does not drag.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 March 2018 11: 37
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      It reminds all this around our new military developments, this joke

      WHERE ??? laughing
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 March 2018 11: 39
        +2
        Andrey Yuryevich
        WHERE ???
        Where, where. In. Where necessary laughing
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 15 March 2018 12: 10
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          Where, where. In. Where necessary

          in Karaganda, for sure, no; laughing
    3. MoJloT
      MoJloT 15 March 2018 11: 50
      +2
      Khokhloma laughs.
    4. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 15 March 2018 12: 24
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      On offended balconies fall

      this media added the word "offended" ... propaganda in action
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 March 2018 12: 30
        +3
        Tiksi-3
        this media added the word "offended" ... propaganda in action
        So they apparently didn’t take offense? This of course radically changes the matter laughing
    5. chikenous59
      chikenous59 15 March 2018 14: 36
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      -Sea,% * "!!!
      -WHERE?

      Neighing from the heart)))
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 15 March 2018 11: 28
    +10
    The country is forever “offended” beggars! laughing
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 15 March 2018 12: 13
      +12
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The country is forever “offended” beggars!

      and you can’t alter them anymore

  3. tchoni
    tchoni 15 March 2018 11: 31
    0
    [b] [/ b] For once, from Ukrainians you can hear adequate speech ...
  4. Altona
    Altona 15 March 2018 11: 34
    +3
    After resentment against the “soviet” weapon, Ukrovermaht was left without ammunition. After another "resentment" at Gazprom, Ukraine risks being left without gas. And then they decided to take offense at the rockets? request
  5. Egorovich
    Egorovich 15 March 2018 11: 37
    +9
    What could be the insult of this hohlopitek, because personally there is not a single gram of his participation in the creation of the Voivode. Why then make yourself upset. Nonsense. wassat
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 15 March 2018 12: 56
      +5
      Quote: Egorovich
      What could be the insult of this hohlopitek, because personally there is not a single gram of his participation in the creation of the Voivode. Why then make yourself upset. Nonsense. wassat
      Yes, they are offended all their lives. Even the fact that we have more snow than them)))
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 15 March 2018 13: 04
        +3
        laughing Now that they have less snow than Russia, they are hardly offended. In Hohland, horseradish and little left, but the winter continues. lol
    2. faridg7
      faridg7 15 March 2018 14: 04
      +6
      Quote: Egorovich
      What could be the insult of this hohlopitek, because personally there is not a single gram of his participation in the creation of the Voivode. Why then make yourself upset. Nonsense. wassat

      In what? The governor is led by Yuzhmash, maintenance and engineering support of products is the penny that Yuzhmash brings to the ukrovermaht budget. And then there was the prospect of staying with a hole in my pocket
  6. Falcond
    Falcond 15 March 2018 11: 38
    +1
    Because of what the noise raises ??? Khokhlam does not shine from dying of such a rocket - too much honor! Or maybe the toad presses on the fact that they sold their VoenProm !!!
    1. cats
      cats 15 March 2018 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: FalconD
      Or maybe the toad presses on the fact that they sold their VoenProm !!!

      But as it sounds, the Institute for Strategic Studies .. laughing
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 15 March 2018 11: 40
    +4
    Inexorably, the “experts” became (after Putin’s message) ... ready to order to deny anything, even if their reputation later becomes an anecdote .. Who is smarter - they remain silent or express themselves vaguely, understanding that the “stage of denial” is short-term ....
  8. basmach
    basmach 15 March 2018 11: 40
    +1
    Enough sores. Sarmat is Voevoda, which will be done at our facilities, taking into account new technologies. The principle of the Chinese, copied and, if possible, finalized. Watch the movie "King Rocket"
  9. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 15 March 2018 11: 48
    +2
    Gorbulin added that he doubts the appearance of “Sarmat” on the combat alert of Russia in the near future, since it is still the so-called oversized model, held at the end of 2017
    Many of the Rogulin’s people still don’t believe in the Crimean bridge, so what else can you hear from the Gorbulin?
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 15 March 2018 11: 48
    +1
    So the Voivode is already filmed in fact. Missiles stand in mines without warheads
    1. figwam
      figwam 15 March 2018 11: 52
      +10
      voyaka uh

      Of course you know better ...
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 15 March 2018 12: 29
        +8
        Quote: figvam
        voyaka uh

        Of course you know better ...

        An amazing place - Israel! From this patch of semi-desert everything and everyone on Earth can be seen in full view! Happy people live there, everyone in the world knows, they are the ultimate truth and can’t touch or tell them anything - genocide is called! request
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 March 2018 12: 52
        +1
        I just carefully read the discussions on the VO forum. fellow
        I have no secret information.
      3. Operator
        Operator 15 March 2018 13: 38
        +3
        Netanyahu himself told the warrior about this - like giving a tooth laughing
    2. Lantau
      Lantau 15 March 2018 11: 56
      +3
      Have you personally checked this ?!
    3. Sailor
      Sailor 15 March 2018 12: 00
      +4
      Where does this information come from? Although I'm sorry, I forgot that in our country, Jews rule.
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 15 March 2018 12: 25
      +8
      Quote: voyaka uh
      So the Voivode is already filmed in fact. Missiles stand in mines without warheads

      Well, actually, Alexei Batkovich check it on his own head, those who wish are not observed repeat
    5. sabakina
      sabakina 15 March 2018 21: 51
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      So the Voivode is already filmed in fact. Missiles stand in mines without warheads

      Apparently, our Jew Lech himself shot warheads! laughing Lyokh, what about the warheads? wink
  11. Sailor
    Sailor 15 March 2018 12: 05
    +3
    Once the hunchback is offended, then let him pick Mr. G. on the mouth and spit. But there is also a part of the truth in his words, about the delivery time of the first missiles, I think for at least 3-4 years, of course, Beria would speed up this process.
  12. assa67
    assa67 15 March 2018 12: 24
    +4
    "openly offended" .... that is, he admitted that he was specifically omitted ... "Voevoda" was developed in the USSR, assembly was carried out on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR ... that is, according to the current Kuev policy, in the occupied zone ... from this we can conclude that Russia forced slaves to make their own missiles ...
  13. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 15 March 2018 12: 26
    0
    Quote: Kotovsky
    Quote: FalconD
    Or maybe the toad presses on the fact that they sold their VoenProm !!!

    But as it sounds, the Institute for Strategic Studies .. laughing


    This is a branch of the Moscow Institute of Space Policy, where the first "authoritative" comment on the GDP report came from!
  14. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 15 March 2018 12: 43
    +2
    Of course, the Voivode will be removed gradually as the Sarmatians arrive .... well, the Ukrainians in their repertoire, even to read it is disgusting to their conclusions soaked through flattery to the United States ....
  15. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 15 March 2018 12: 50
    0
    iksperd made a conclusion on the conclusion of the decaying iksperds of the pentagon ... and so they took them here, they dedicated them to the secret of creating Sarmatian, at what stage and so on
  16. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 15 March 2018 14: 13
    +1
    Imbeciles and about the Crimean bridge were blathering something ... It’s not even interesting to discuss ... They brought a scientist loyal to hopelessness for the greater importance, they gave TsU, he mumbled ... The curtain ...
  17. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 15 March 2018 14: 25
    +1
    German intelligence before the war of 41 also reported to Hitler that the USSR did not and could not make tanks equivalent to German, explaining it simply - a country that buys toothbrushes is unable to do something technologically advanced and modern.
  18. 23424636
    23424636 15 March 2018 18: 53
    0
    the hunchback dog is stinking, the best is secret, and Kuchma (named Baikonur's nickname Glass) did everything in order to surrender this missile to enemies. .Makeevites great performers once were able to create the best. I would be happy with my brains for my colleagues, otherwise the whole American agency, etc.
  19. Old26
    Old26 15 March 2018 21: 59
    +1
    Quote: faridg7
    In what? The governor is led by Yuzhmash, maintenance and engineering support of products is the penny that Yuzhmash brings to the ukrovermaht budget. And then there was the prospect of staying with a hole in my pocket

    No longer leads. After Parashenko banned all military-technical contacts with the aggressor country, Yuzhmash lost this money. We are design support. The truth is that the GRC them. Makeeva. Of course, not exactly that, but you’ll become a cancer-free fish

    Quote: basmach
    Enough sores. Sarmat is Voevoda, which will be done at our facilities, taking into account new technologies. The principle of the Chinese, copied and, if possible, finalized. Watch the movie "King Rocket"

    Sarmat is not a Voivode. According to its mass-dimensional characteristics, it differs from the Voivode. Yes, they do with us, and new technologies ...

    Quote: voyaka uh
    So the Voivode is already filmed in fact. Missiles stand in mines without warheads

    Yes stop nonsense to flog. All data exchanges show that some are still with warheads. Yes, from July to October last year, 20 Voivode was removed from the database, but this was immediately reflected in the number of deployed carriers and the number of warheads (it decreased by 200)

    Quote: Alexey-74
    Of course, the Voivode will be removed gradually as the Sarmatians arrive ....

    Even without admission. Probably a check and shooting showed that a certain batch should be removed. And part has already been removed
  20. Eugene Besfamilny
    Eugene Besfamilny 16 March 2018 12: 40
    0
    Experience shows that Ukraine without Russia is a poor, wretched bunch of idiots.