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Media: "Vanguard" is planned to be adopted not later than 2019 year

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The newest avant-garde hypersonic strategic missile system is planned to be put into service no later than 2019 of the year, TASS reports, citing a source in the Russian military-industrial complex.


Media: "Vanguard" is planned to be adopted not later than 2019 year


The Avangard complex, after the release of the first series of planning combat units and in the case of a successful test launch of a single rocket with this combat equipment, can be adopted at the end of 2018 of the year. The deadline for adopting and setting on combat duty - 2019 year
- Said the source agency.

The source noted that with the adoption of Avangard, the number of missile divisions in the combat squad of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) will not increase: the newest systems will go into service with existing missile units.

Earlier, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov said that the military department had signed a contract for the production of a hypersonic Avangard strategic complex. The commander of the Strategic Missile Forces, Sergei Karakaev, clarified that the tests of the Avangard were successfully completed.

Avangard is a strategic complex with an intercontinental ballistic missile equipped with a planning hypersonic winged combat unit.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 15 March 2018 10: 41
    +6
    It is not clear that the tests are already completed, they are still ongoing. But the advertisement went off with a bang.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 15 March 2018 10: 44
      +9
      We are talking about a test launch in combat equipment, and not about flight tests.
      1. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 15 March 2018 10: 47
        +4
        And that a control start-up does not apply to testing until it is put into service and put into serial production, all parameters are being tested.
        1. _MaX_
          _MaX_ 15 March 2018 10: 50
          +5
          In fact, all this is so cool that the question arises - is this true? But in any case, the statements in the message made regarding new types of weapons are in principle timely. After all, such statements are made not in order to attack someone, but to warn against attack (or provocation).
          1. aszzz888
            aszzz888 15 March 2018 10: 55
            +8
            _MaX_ Today, 10:50 ↑ New
            In fact, all this is so cool that the question arises - is this true?

            I suppose the Darkest would not bluff on such matters to the whole world ...
            1. _MaX_
              _MaX_ 15 March 2018 11: 26
              +4
              Quote: aszzz888
              I suppose the Darkest would not bluff on such matters to the whole world ...

              Bluffing is also a fighting tool that forces the adversary to move in the wrong direction, or invest in growths that require large financial costs. So whether it is true or not, it is an instrument of psychological influence in any case.
              1. Firework
                Firework 15 March 2018 13: 02
                0
                how do you think the intelligence agent
              2. CHARM
                CHARM 15 March 2018 19: 15
                +4
                Quote: _MaX_
                Bluffing is also a fighting tool that forces an adversary to move in a false direction,

                Not in this case. Such a “frank” bluff Western intelligence would have figured out relatively quickly. And GDP for 20 years of rule in such a blunt bluff was not noticed. I am convinced that all the weapons that have been shown are true.
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 16 March 2018 11: 16
            0
            in 96 g at the hotel of the Ministry of Industry and Trade on Seleznevka (3 Samotechny per) spent the night with the director of the Miass factory: here at last they got born, they gave me money, we sign a contract (?), the first thing is I’ll pay off all my salary arrears and increase my salaries "

            it's about Poplar. HOW MUCH TIME HAS PASSED FROM "BORN" TO SERIAL PRODUCTION AND SETTING ON B \ D IN SOME DIVISIONS?

            here is the answer to the readiness for WWII in 41g !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and 2019 (or even later?)
        2. Dreamboat
          Dreamboat 15 March 2018 12: 05
          +1
          Control launches are also being adopted. For each batch or to check the preservation of combat readiness (extension of storage periods).
      2. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 15 March 2018 10: 47
        +6
        Eh, still a vigorous steam locomotive to launch (BZHRK) - it would be completely comme il faut !!! winked
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 15 March 2018 10: 54
          +6
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Eh, still a vigorous steam locomotive to launch (BZHRK) - it would be completely comme il faut !!! winked

          Well, the BZHRK is being replaced by the Topol2M mobile complexes, but for Barguzin, it’s still silent. hi
          1. basmach
            basmach 15 March 2018 11: 45
            +1
            In principle, BZHRK cannot replace poplar - the sizes of the database area are simply not comparable
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 15 March 2018 12: 55
              +2
              BZHRK, in modern conditions, with our transparent border - does not make sense. Expensive and difficult.
              They stopped working on it correctly. hi
          2. ver_
            ver_ 16 March 2018 14: 50
            +1
            .. well, if between the lines? .. Powerful diesel locomotives are launched ..- they don’t need electric networks, a new tunnel on Baikal * was punched * ..., and short trains can be invisible on any access roads and bases ...
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 16 March 2018 11: 18
          0
          the Chinese as an achievement - the speed of troop deployment along the HSR for several thousand kilometers per day,
      3. novel66
        novel66 15 March 2018 10: 50
        +3
        and how many good goals, for a control!
        1. Crowe
          Crowe 15 March 2018 11: 00
          +6
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and how many good goals, for a control!

          The goal is always the same - a landfill in Kamchatka. And I hope others are not expected. "Do the Russians want war?"
    2. 100502
      100502 15 March 2018 10: 44
      +3
      Maybe just fairy tales before the election?
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 15 March 2018 10: 57
        +8
        Quote: 100502
        Maybe just fairy tales before the election?

        Yes tales, tales fellow laughing
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 March 2018 10: 58
        +7
        100502
        Maybe just fairy tales before the election?
        Are you comforting yourself like that, or are you trying to impress us? laughing "Vanguard" will replace conventional warheads on ICBMs. For elections, not elections. This is already inevitable. And American missile defense. Well, let them console themselves further. And spend money.
      3. flicker
        flicker 15 March 2018 12: 41
        +6
        Of course, tales:
    3. Dimontius
      Dimontius 15 March 2018 10: 53
      +3
      But do not you think that the announcement of a weapon from which no one will have salvation, before it enters the arsenal, is a reason for an enemy attack? Yes + reform 2020 is still not completed ...
      1. Yura Yakovlev
        Yura Yakovlev 15 March 2018 11: 03
        +9
        The Crimean bridge is also not yet built, but you can already ride!
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 16 March 2018 11: 26
          0
          it’s better to walk 1 time, then they’ll forbid
          rare lucky pass to "anti-terror, prohibited"
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 15 March 2018 11: 10
        +9
        Dimontius
        But do not you think that the announcement of a weapon from which no one will have salvation, before it enters the arsenal, is a reason for an enemy attack? Yes + reform 2020 is still not completed ...
        You tell our guys at least one of these boats here. They are heartbreaking.
        And then, judging by your comment, Russia before the message of Putin did not have the ability of anyone on planet Earth in a pose of a broken birchlaughing
        1. Dimontius
          Dimontius 15 March 2018 11: 32
          +2
          I just asked a question to the audience. Looking at my avatar you will understand that I have the same opinion as you))
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 15 March 2018 11: 33
            +1
            Dimontius hi Sorry if I misunderstood you. Well for understanding drinks
    4. Observer2014
      Observer2014 15 March 2018 10: 53
      +6
      Spartanez300
      It is not clear that the tests are already completed, they are still ongoing. But the advertisement went off with a bang.
      What don't you like? Americans just won’t even really have cartoons on paper. And nothing. The representatives of mini countries are given the same cartoons and they are proud of America laughing
    5. Warrior-80
      Warrior-80 15 March 2018 10: 58
      +2
      The Su-35s are already being riveted and used at all, but they haven’t been taken into service, they are testing an experimental batch, everything has its time
      1. Dimontius
        Dimontius 15 March 2018 11: 01
        +1
        yeah prototypes squadrons to China send laughing
      2. Muvka
        Muvka 15 March 2018 11: 06
        0
        The Su-35 was accepted last year. And in this Su-30SM
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 15 March 2018 11: 52
          +2
          Quote: Muvka
          Su-35 last year adopted.

          I apologize, but the Su-35 in the Russian Aerospace Force did not accept No. In the second half of last year there was an order to adopt C-35C. Do not confuse this different cars. However, with the Su-35С operated in the front shelf is not all cloudless. For a long time, the fighters were operated without medium-range missiles, and for this reason they could only conduct close combat.
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 15 March 2018 12: 44
            +3
            I am sure that the comrade had in mind just the Su-35S, we do not produce others in series. The old Su-35 can only be remembered with a kind word and thanks for the experience.
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    7. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 15 March 2018 11: 52
      +1
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It is not clear that the tests are already completed, they are still ongoing. But the advertisement went off with a bang.

      why not? need to be silent silently in a rag? it seems to me here we should take an example from Westerners and actively advertise ourselves.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 March 2018 12: 00
        +1
        All this in one and the same firebox! And it will not be peaceful heating for the afflicted!
        There is a concept - it is NECESSARY, NECESSITY - but how it doesn’t please everyone.
    8. Svarog
      Svarog 16 March 2018 15: 40
      +2
      Quote: Spartanez300
      It is not clear that the tests are already completed, they are still ongoing. But the advertisement went off with a bang.

      What is incomprehensible here? Pre-election propaganda .. 90% of the cartoon is half-truth, developments are going on, but they are still very far from adoption .. Look at Armata. You need to critically learn to think and just see that the further you go, the more lies ..
  2. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 15 March 2018 10: 54
    0
    It is now important for us to put these "Vanguards" in the Strategic Missile Forces in the right quantity. The United States should clearly understand that this is not a bluff or a joke, and this "Domoklov sword" will always hang over their heads ...
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 15 March 2018 12: 45
      +1
      Interesting at least the approximate number of Vanguards in the plans of Moscow Region
  3. Operator
    Operator 15 March 2018 11: 00
    +1
    The hypersonic gliding warhead Avangard is routinely installed on the existing Voevoda ICBM (Sarmat prototype).

    The meaning of the development of the Vanguard is to increase the firing range of ICBMs when fully loaded with warheads from 11000 to 20000 km (+9000 km distance of the Avangard flight along the Senger trajectory). It is possible to perform a lateral maneuver within the specified 9000 km.

    Those. "Voevoda" / "Sarmat" with military equipment "Vanguard" gets anywhere in the world, regardless of the location of the silos am
    1. Bronevick
      Bronevick 15 March 2018 11: 31
      0
      So the Sarmat rocket has an unlimited flight range. After all, the Supreme said so. And also a cruise missile with a "nuclear" engine.
    2. dim7ka
      dim7ka 15 March 2018 12: 39
      0
      Quote: Operator
      The hypersonic gliding warhead Avangard is routinely installed on the existing Voevoda ICBM (Sarmat prototype).

      The meaning of the development of the Vanguard is to increase the firing range of ICBMs when fully loaded with warheads from 11000 to 20000 km (+9000 km distance of the Avangard flight along the Senger trajectory). It is possible to perform a lateral maneuver within the specified 9000 km.

      Those. "Voevoda" / "Sarmat" with military equipment "Vanguard" gets anywhere in the world, regardless of the location of the silos am

      Finish the addiction. No one in their right mind will put the Vanguard on the decommissioned missile. There were no tests on the Voivode, all launches took place on the Stylet.
    3. Voyager
      Voyager 15 March 2018 12: 46
      +2
      Vanguard can not only be installed on Sarmat, but also on the border. I just heard somewhere that Sarmat is capable of carrying as many as 3 Vanguard Blocks in itself if necessary. But I can’t know for sure how true this is.
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 15 March 2018 11: 01
    +4
    The source noted that with the adoption of Avangard, the number of missile divisions in the combat squad of the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) will not increase: the newest systems will go into service with existing missile units.
    If the source is not another "source", then this phrase means that the carrier is not essential for the Vanguard and can be installed on the ICBMs of the previous generation ... But in the test-adoption bundle there are some differences in versions ... although I and not an expert, with a specific character familiar cap.
  5. Vlad Morozov
    Vlad Morozov 15 March 2018 11: 01
    +2
    Weapons created! Now preparing for the production and running-in exercises
  6. XXXIII
    XXXIII 15 March 2018 11: 04
    +1
    The Avangard complex, after the release of the first series of planning combat units and in the case of a successful control launch of one missile with this military equipment, can be put into service at the end of 2018. The deadline for its adoption and arming on combat duty is 2019.
    - Said the source agency.

    Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Army General S.K. Shoigu at an expanded meeting of the Board of the Ministry of Defense made an unprecedented open report on the state of the domestic Armed Forces.
    Prototypes are already in service - Army General S.K. Shoigu

    wink laughing
    1. -ш-
      -ш- 15 March 2018 11: 15
      +2
      supply and accept different things)
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 15 March 2018 12: 31
        +1
        Quote: -sh-
        supply and accept different things)
        It’s different, the fact is that there were tests, so there are similar samples that can be put into service with a light hand. In fact, why put them into service when the Ministry of Defense itself tested them and also took part from the creation to the flight of the Vanguard. The question is when they were testing someone else had to track an object of increased danger or tracked and are silent, so as not to confirm their weakness in front of a new type of weapon. If we reduce all this simply to a “joke,” then what about the words of the president of a nuclear country, which is a strategic threat to another country. Indeed, now the Russian Federation can deliver a preemptive strike, hence it can be assumed that the enemy’s problems have only increased. The states fell into their own trap, stamped and sold weapons must now be serviced, and now it is necessary to create new ones, of course there will be enough budget, the question is whether there will be enough countries and people. hi
    2. flicker
      flicker 15 March 2018 15: 25
      +3
      War block and rocket.
      These are, like, different things. The unit could be tested with one carrier (for example, the Zenit rocket - this may be enough to test the unit), and it is planned to install this unit on another (say, Sarmat). Each individual product may be functional, but they may, for some reason, be incompatible.
      Prototypes are already in service - Army General S.K. Shoigu
      An experienced warhead mounted on a temporary carrier with range limitations.
  7. watchmaker
    watchmaker 15 March 2018 11: 08
    +3
    sad and the West has already decided what part of it they don’t need too much so that the Russian Federation would prove that this is not a fake ...... ???? Here is the United States, for example, to show the USSR the presence of an atomic bomb, it simply dropped it on Japan, and nothing, friends are still friends, Japan even consists of NATO ......
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 15 March 2018 12: 51
      0
      I heard on the Internet about someone's offer to Ukrainians to play roulette)) They jump and laugh, they say, cartoons are all fantasies, but what about checking out this fantasy or reality in Ukraine itself? For them, they say, are some pluses. If the new armament is "nedaletit", you can continue to laugh with a clear conscience. If it arrives and as it should, then don’t have to suffer in the Donbass anymore. the reaction seemed to be very serious and offended, they say, "well, you Muscovites and"

      Cruel, but ... will correct the hunchback grave?
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 15 March 2018 13: 42
      +2
      Quote: watchmaker
      the West has already decided which part of it is not needed too much for the Russian Federation to prove that it is not a fake

      Yes, I decided. yes Any of the countries (or all at once) where the mattress missile defense is located. Poland, Romania, Yukoreya (these, however, Kim spuds) ... in short, there are goals. laughing
      1. watchmaker
        watchmaker 16 March 2018 16: 42
        +1
        for me it’s better to start with Romania .....)))) In Transnistria, it will become easier for us to breathe yes
  8. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 15 March 2018 11: 27
    +1
    I think that everything is extremely clear. At least in the next 10 years, the American missile defense system everyone who needs to be able to overcome without the “Vanguard”. But Russia already has something like that in 10 years, and if the United States succeeds in a comprehensive and effective missile defense from real ICBMs, it can penetrate this missile defense.
  9. gig334
    gig334 15 March 2018 12: 28
    +1
    Something I didn’t understand, Putin of which overthrew everyone with this weapon?
    After all, he shouted to everyone that Vanguard had already gone into mass production. Excerpt from VO article for March 3
    The Avangard strategic complex, with a hypersonic planning and maneuvering warhead, has been put into mass production, reports RT with reference to a military diplomatic source.

    Believe this, yesterday said one thing, today is different. In short, as I understand it, we don’t have any shit, it’s all the election gundosh. One could have guessed that the frigate Gorshkoov has been under construction for 10 years, they cannot finish it, but here hypersonic missiles and nuclear engines have fallen into trouble. Gorshkov though finish, finish to mind.
    https://topwar.ru/137158-istochnik-raketnyy-kompl
    eks-avangard-zapuschen-v-seriynoe-proizvodstvo.ht
    ml
    IN and you do everything normally so that links can be added humanly. And then neither copy, nor go through them.
  10. Operator
    Operator 15 March 2018 12: 51
    0
    Quote: dim7ka
    No one in their right mind will put the Vanguard on the decommissioned rocket

    "Your mustache has come unstuck" (C) - this must be such a beat to call the Governor deductible bully

    On the Stylet, the Vanguard was worked out, and the Voivode will be used for another 5-10 years in the process of replacing it with Sarmat.

    Learn the materiel - in the series Vanguard starts earlier than Sarmat.
  11. Old26
    Old26 15 March 2018 23: 02
    0
    "O Lord, your wonderful deeds" ... Putin’s speech opened the gateways and now everyone "carries what he can." In rezultat everything confuses

    The latest Avangard hypersonic strategic missile system is planned to be adopted no later than 2019, TASS reports citing a source in the Russian defense industry ..

    At first, one “source” says that everything, almost a contract has not been signed, now the deadline for adoption is postponed to 2019.
    In general, in a normal country with a normal situation (unless this country is behind the Looking Glass), they first take something into service, and then sign a contract, and not vice versa, as storytellers tell us

    The Avangard complex, after the release of the first series of planning combat units and in the case of a successful test launch of a single rocket with this combat equipment, can be adopted at the end of 2018 of the year. The deadline for adopting and setting on combat duty - 2019 year
    - said the interlocutor of the agency ..

    Explain to me this. If you plan to carry out a test launch with one rocket, why release a series? And if the product does not pass the test, that is, the control shooting will give a negative result, the first series where, "for scrap" ???

    The source noted that with the adoption of "Vanguard" the number of missile divisions in the combat structure of the Strategic Missile Forces (Strategic Missile Forces) will not increase: the latest systems will go into service with existing missile units ..

    Well, the fact that the number of divisions will not increase is understandable. Still, there are ceilings on START-3. It is clear that they will go into service in the compounds that exist. The question is, which ones? This combat equipment was created taking into account the putting into service of the SARMAT complex. To put it on others? For what? The dimensions of this unit are quite large, it is unlikely to put more than one on the same “Yars” (and even then, it is not known what alterations this installation will require)

    Earlier, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov said that the military department has signed a contract for the production of the Avangard hypersonic strategic complex. Strategic Missile Forces commander Sergei Karakaev said that the tests of the "Vanguard" have been successfully completed ..

    The deputy minister says one thing, the Commander-in-chief says another. Well, flight tests can be completed on a specialized carrier. But what about the tests on the base? "SARMAT" only at the beginning of its test journey ...

    Quote: siberalt
    We are talking about a test launch in combat equipment, and not about flight tests.

    On what?

    Quote: vlad66
    Well, the BZHRK is being replaced by the Topol2M mobile complexes, but for Barguzin it is still silent

    Already "Topol-2M" ??? But nothing that products with the name "Poplar" are already 7-8 years old, how not to produce? And why "Topol-2M" and not "Yars-S" or "Yars-K"

    Quote: Crowe
    The goal is always the same - a landfill in Kamchatka. And I hope others are not expected. "Do the Russians want war?"

    Well, why ... Maybe they will shoot at the “Water Area”

    Quote: Dimontius
    But do not you think that the announcement of a weapon from which no one will have salvation, before it enters the arsenal, is a reason for an enemy attack? Yes + reform 2020 is still not completed ...

    No, this is just a magnificent election move. Putin multiplied all his competitors (which he actually are not competitors) multiplied by zero. Sometimes after work I go into one "institution." There is very good brandy. so earlier men and women talked about anything. About sports, football, construction, men (if women). Now everyone is talking about one thing. About new missiles. And regardless of who he (she) is - an archaeologist, journalist, driver, builder ... Everyone has become experts. But competitors to GDP are almost inaudible. Is it only in the news feed that you read that Zhirik was swearing or Ksyusha was brought to tears ...

    Quote: Voyager
    Interesting at least the approximate number of Vanguards in the plans of Moscow Region

    I think I will not be mistaken if I say that the number of carriers will be well, let's say 20-25 pieces. if you look at the fairing approximately, you can estimate that 3-4 will fit into the Sarmat. That is, pieces of 80 or 100 “Vanguards” can and will do. Hardly more

    Quote: Bronevick
    So the Sarmat rocket has an unlimited flight range. After all, the Supreme said so. And also a cruise missile with a "nuclear" engine.

    Each rocket has limitations. Take the same old Soviet 8K67. It carried about 3-4 tons of combat load (the cast weight was about 5,5-6 tons. And it could carry it for 20 thousand. True, the load of this so-called orbital rocket was about 1,3 tons. There are no miracles Either a lot for a relatively short range, or a little, but for a huge one. And if through the North Pole it can reach the warhead at a distance of 11 --- km, then through the south this range will be approximately 16000 km. True BG will be less than with the first option

    Quote: dim7ka
    There were no tests on the Governors, all launches took place on the Stylet

    And note, redone, not regular. The missile turned out 7 meters longer than the standard one. Even the name received a new one - 15Y71 (she's 15A71, she's 15A35-71)

    Quote: Voyager
    Vanguard can not only be installed on Sarmat, but also on the border. I just heard somewhere that Sarmat is capable of carrying as many as 3 Vanguard Blocks in itself if necessary. But I can’t know for sure how true this is.

    On the line, he does not rise only because of its length. "Frontier" is a new missile, which, unlike the existing ones, does not have breeding steps. And she has every warhead equipped with an engine. But no one planned to put this block on it. the rocket was still being created BEFORE THAT and passed flight tests BEFORE THAThow did the first LI "Vanguard"

    Quote: XXXIII
    It’s different, the fact is that there were tests, so there are similar samples that can be put into service with a light hand.
    .
    The tests were from an experimental medium. With staff DID NOT HAVE, since there is still no regular carrier

    Quote: XXXIII
    In fact, why put them into service when the Ministry of Defense itself tested them and also took part from the creation to the flight of the Vanguard.

    The participation of the MO in the creation of any weapon is usually limited to the allocation of finance and control over the implementation of the stages. And only at the testing stage, which the OIICH together with the MO fisheries conduct, are actually involved in the person of these parts at the training ground ...

    Quote: XXXIII
    Indeed, now the Russian Federation can deliver a preemptive strike, hence it can be assumed that the enemy’s problems have only increased.

    There is parity. They can also deliver a preemptive strike and then ours will be oncoming, reciprocal-oncoming or retaliatory

    Quote: flicker
    These are, like, different things. The unit could be tested with one carrier (for example, the Zenit rocket - this may be enough to test the unit), and it is planned to install this unit on another (say, Sarmat). Each individual product may be functional, but they may, for some reason, be incompatible.

    You are absolutely right. The block was tested on an experimental medium. On a regular one - no. Namely, with a regular one, he will have to fly
    It is only at first glance that you can take and put this winged block on any carrier. But during installation, all the seats, electrical, pneumatic and hydraulic connectors on the block and on the carrier must match. Moreover, this is generally a new product

    Quote: gig334
    Believe this, yesterday said one thing, today is different.

    Especially when it says some military-diplomatic source. A military source - I know, a diplomatic one - too, a source in the defense industry - there is one. But the military-diplomatic is something like an agency "One grandmother said "
  12. Vitauts
    Vitauts 16 March 2018 11: 14
    0
    is it like an arnat tank ...? Only bluffs and promises
  13. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 16 March 2018 11: 41
    0
    Quote: watchmaker
    Japan even consists of NATO ......

    What fast! This is when they had time, cursed? :))
  14. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 16 March 2018 22: 30
    0
    Quote: Vitauts
    is it like an arnat tank ...? Only bluffs and promises

    You yourself are a bluff bought for 270 lards of green cut paper - tell yourself that with a "smart" look. laughing