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Modern Cossacks: problems, forecasts, prospects

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His reflections on the current state of the Cossacks with the correspondent of "Military Review" shares the "outstanding Moscow region fighter" - a Cossack and a lifeguard, the repeated winner of various possible saber-cutting championships Alexei Teterin. Alexey is not only chopping. In his narrow circle he is known as a Cossack connoisseur. stories, traditions and cultures, which inspired us to interview him.


Modern Cossacks: problems, forecasts, prospects


Who are we and where are we from

- Alexey, how did you get to this life? You work as a lifeguard in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, at your leisure you cut with a sword. Doesn't live quietly?


- I remembered my roots when the guys dragged me to one of the ethnic festivals near Moscow, where the Cossack component was announced.

- Sang and danced?

- No, they cut and fought. Although between fights really danced - Cossack lezginka. In the evening they played songs. They gave me a piece of sword in my hand. And I suddenly felt: this is mine, my dear. Already a chill on the back ran. Well, and then it started. When deadly steel writes circles or a blade over you like a razor, cuts a target, you are overwhelmed with a stream of emotions. Experiencing incomparable feelings.

- What do you think about the revival of the Cossacks?

- Here, without an excursion into history can not do.

- Just for short. We are not in the lecture department.

- I will try ...

“Nasty dirty tricks” in “Russian antiquities”

- It is well known that the Norman theory about the arrival of foreigners and the formation of statehood in Russia is bursting at the seams. By the way, even Putin spoke about this. The theory of the origin of the Cossacks from runaway serfs, too, crumbled into dust. Why, for example, the fugitives did not hide in the woods, but left for the steppe, where by definition it is impossible to hide? Why did they settle where you can control the main arteries of any state — along roads and rivers? But these are key areas. Through them were trading routes - the blood vessels of the state economy. The Cossacks also engaged in the development and conquest of new lands - which is worth one trip Ermak for the Urals. Tolstoy said: "The border of Russia passes through the front bow of a Cossack saddle." Obviously not a damn thing - the swing and impertinence are too large. Yes, and how from the fugitive in some magical way turned out great warriors with perfect organization and clearly the genetic ability to fight? A lot of questions and to the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke. Another theory about invaders from Mongolia is also actively criticized by historians. Where is the visible confirmation that it really was the Mongols or Asians? There are a lot of such distortions in history. Cinema inspired us that the Horde is a narrow-eyed Asian. But is it? At one time, exclusively aliens — Miller, Schlesser, Brier — were engaged in creating the history of the Russian State. Even Lomonosov suffered in the struggle against these comrades. “What kind of vile dirty tricks the cattle allowed in them cannot do in Russian antiquities!” - so he spoke about these comrades. And some of them even beat the muzzle of the spiritualized "historical" person.

Since its inception, the Cossacks not only intervened everywhere, but in fact created the history of the state. Of course, they carried out an independent policy and acted primarily in their own interests. This explains both the war with external enemies - the Ottoman Empire, the Turks, the Poles, and the raids inside Moscow lands. Even John 4 (Grozny) said that he had a lot of Tatarwas, and different, not only Kazan ... What an interesting pattern: there are raids on Russian principalities - there are "Tatarwah" and a horde. There is a defense of Russian lands and raids on Osmania — Cossacks and troops appear. For me, it is the same people.

Sabers over the letters

In the Time of Troubles, the Cossacks also took an active part. As the historian Ivan Kharlamov said, “the role of the First Militia, which besieged Moscow from the 1611 year, where the Don Cossacks played the leading role, is modestly silent. ... Despite the first failures, it was the Cossacks who remained to besiege the Poles in the Moscow Kremlin and awaited the approach of the Second Militia of Minin and Pozharsky. And at the crucial moment of the battle, having come to the aid of this militia, they determined the victory of Russia. ” Also, historians are slyly silent about the true cause of the contradictions of the First and Second militias. Both Minin and Pozharsky preferred to see foreigners on the Russian throne. Cossacks also advocated the enthronement of the "sovereign Orthodox." They were the ones who raised Romanov to the throne. Several thousand Cossacks took to the streets of Moscow and presented an ultimatum to the Zemsky Sobor demanding that Mikhail Romanov be approved. They confirmed the seriousness of their intentions with sabers over the letter. By the way, in Poland, the first Romanov was nicknamed for this “Cossack king.”

- Many modern Cossacks are distinguished by some kind of heightened piety - such as "this, too, went from the ancestors ...".

- Has anyone seen a Cossack in the church on his knees beating his forehead? Cossack faith is special. That says it all.

- But the Cossacks went to the service to the king. And now the state is trying to control and regulate this process. Is it good or bad?

- Again - "a drop of history." As a result of the growth of the Russian Empire, its borders expanded and the Cossacks went to work as early as the Russian tsar. They settled on the borders of the empire, and the original lands of the Cossacks were far in the depths of Russia. The connection between generations was lost, languages ​​mixed up, turning into adverbs. The Cossacks assimilated, the differences have already gone and within themselves. They began to make a military class, assigned Cossacks appeared. And now, along with the natural, tribal Cossacks, there are many of them. Often, such turnouts can and can be much more generic. And here it is appropriate to recall the proverb that "it is not enough to be born a Cossack, they need to be and they need to die." It is necessary to remember about the basic qualities of the Cossack - he must be stately, fair and dashing.

- The fact of the revival of the Cossacks in society is extremely ambiguous attitude - as well as the Cossacks themselves.

- For many, their revival as an independent people capable of self-organization is simply dangerous. Therefore, in its time, a wheel full of blood bones rolled across the villages. The dangerous and warlike people survived the terrible genocide. Everything that is being created - the Cadet Cossack corps, the Cossack registries and estates, and at least the Cossack circles of interest - can be managed. Everything is possible, except for the patrimonial independence of the people, who for centuries ruled the fate of the state, put up and overthrew kings, stood on its defense and suppressed internal riots, a people who are not afraid of any features, nor of God, nor of themselves, nor even of strangers.

- In the first years after the beginning of perestroika, everybody felt like a Cossacks.

- The history is repeated twice: once in the form of tragedy, the other - in the form of farce. The Cossacks have already experienced the tragedy. Nobody wants repetitions. But to avoid the "lamp farce" was not easier. Adventurers of various suits and calibers rushed into the Cossacks, who expected to receive some dividends from their new status. With them a heavy internal struggle among the Cossacks is still going on. Someone really imbued with Cossack ideas, from someone - those who are called "mummers" - you need to get rid of.

It would have been my will - I would accept the Cossacks, as in the "krapovye berets." As long as “on the teeth and nerves” you do not pass an obstacle course on the verge of the possible, you cannot stand in hand-to-hand combat against fresh and experienced rivals - not a Cossack. I also heard this: until I got to war, I didn’t smell powder — you are not a Cossack, regardless of whether it is tribal or registered.

There was a time in the Cossacks on the ground impose. But the time was different, and the requirements were different. Ready to fight? Are you not afraid of death? Do you believe in our God? Everything, now you are ours. Go to Kuren, get ready for a hike. Here are just "mummers" I would cut off on the threshold. From them, the Cossacks only harm ...

- And how do you look at the division of the Cossacks in the registry and all the rest?

- This is another split that crushes the unity of the people. The entire function of the registry, from the point of view of the authorities, comes down to law enforcement. Cossacks just help the police at all sorts of mass events, that's all. In my opinion, this is wrong. Warriors should not only carry guards. Warriors must fight. And to learn this can and should, and all the time.

- Well, how do Cossack military-patriotic teen organizations differ from clubs of a young paratrooper, a border guard, a marine?

- Our traditions are stronger. And they are instilled since childhood. There are purely Cossack martial arts - dzhigitovka, flanking (working with a sword), working with pike, arapnik, whip, and plunger knife. There are also their own masters of martial Cossack arts - Pavel Polyakov, Alexander Bereznikov, Nikolai Yeremichev, Yegor Sirkov, Leonid Polezhaev, Viktor Pavlyuchenkov, Bogdan Gaidenko. Some of them, unfortunately, are more known abroad than in Russia. Nikolai Eremichev created the Federation for cutting logs, regularly holds competitions in different parts of the country. Leonid Polezhaev now once again gives a master class of the Plastun battle in China - for local martial arts masters. Even they pay tribute to his skills. Many people, including myself, learned how to work with a checker by the rollers of Pavel Polyakov. Bogdan Gaidenko is just a virtuoso of flanking (twists with a checker). Many Cossack classes in the country are engaged in his educational films.

- Does the horse-stunt training in modern Cossacks present? Or do they prancing only on iron horses?

- And how. The leaders of horse-stunt groups Pavel Polyakov, Alexander Shcheglov and Dmitry Zaskalov are our everlasting pride. Their young horsemen, along with riders of the Kremlin riding school and equestrian escort of the Presidential Regiment, perform at the most prestigious European equestrian shows. They demonstrated their skills in front of Queen Elizabeth and in front of Angela Merkel. Cultivated by them dzhigitovka - the top of the Cossack martial arts.

A landmark event for all of us is the world tiger race. It takes place in the middle of summer, approximately 15 July, in the equestrian complex "Favorite" near Lytkarino near Moscow. In addition to the Djig Cossacks, riders come here from all over the world, including the descendants of the White Guard Cossack emigrants from Europe. Cossacks from different parts of the country gather there - communicate, share experiences.

“I Can” - Blindhouse

- And how did you get on the Yakubovich “I Can” show?


- I was invited. Though I was nervous (it was my first experience on TV), in general, I think it was a good idea. An interesting challenge was the cabin blindfolded. Try a regular stick with your eyes closed and wave - and then sharply honed steel with a deadly chill.

Book-icon

- There is a great book - "Quiet Don." It is for us - as "War and Peace" for all mankind. I can reread it endlessly. There is no other such book where the originality of the Cossack way of life and the tragedy of the Cossacks would be so figuratively conveyed. Especially since the main character, Grigory Melekhov, had a real prototype - Kharlampy Ermakov, the St. George Cavalier, an active participant in the Don uprising, a man with a difficult fate, a reeling personality.

- And how, after all that has been experienced, is it now reborn?

- But the people stayed. True, they were then brought up in a different vein - purely anti-caste. Therefore, the Leningradskaya village appeared in the Kuban (instead of the former Umanskaya) and the Serafimovichsky district on the Don - in place of the old Cossack village of Ust-Medveditskaya - in memory of the writer Serafimovich, who saw the Cossacks as hellish fiend.

- And what, they were angels?

- No, of course not. I think they were no better and no worse than others. Although probably more violent. But this is understandable - their centuries-old life style, which they so valued, was crumbling. At that time there were no angels - the country flew forward in a muddy bloody whirlwind. Red terror was replaced by white, and vice versa. The Bolsheviks won, and their ideology won.

- She was bad?

- No, she was our bond. I grew up on it, and for the time being, everything was fine with me. But at some time she began to disperse from real life. I remember the pathos of the stands and the laughter of smokers during the times of stagnation. Even then, I had a slight suspicion that this could not last long. And then the Soviet Union collapsed overnight under the weight of accumulated problems. And I agree with those who believe that this was the worst tragedy of the century. As a matter of fact, all the wars raging to this day are the result of the collapse of the Red Empire. But what is characteristic: it was enough to collapse the official ideology - and people's memory in the farms and villages flashed like bright coals during a gust of wind.

Kamo Simeashi

- But are natural and tribal Cossacks now enough to revive a full-blooded people?

- I look at our future with optimism. Cossack family no translation. Here I have three guys grow up. They will already know who they are, who their grandfathers are. Language, blood and history of the Cossacks and Russians are inseparable. I sing Cossack songs, do Russian dance. I work with the sword and study the history of ancient Russia. The Cossacks are definitely part of the Russian world, one of its most striking components. After all, there were earlier tribes of lutets, Krivichi, glades. All became Russian. This is our strength. I think that the Cossacks, as a people, are able to be reborn, but they are already inseparable from a single family of Russian peoples.
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  1. Spez
    Spez 16 March 2018 06: 38
    +26
    Already not funny. Moses, grace yourself.
    1. Vard
      Vard 16 March 2018 06: 44
      +33
      Cossacks ... I don’t know where and in the case ... And we have their name mummers ...
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 March 2018 06: 50
        +16
        Quote: Vard
        . And our name is mummers ...

        the same garbage ...
        1. FID
          FID 16 March 2018 08: 42
          +13
          When you see a “Cossack” with yellow stripes in the Moscow Region, the thought arises: either he’s not the same, or everything’s wrong .... You can’t think of any other "mummers" ... But they are baptized, it hurts ....
          1. avt
            avt 16 March 2018 09: 30
            +15
            Quote: SSI
            When you see a "Cossack" with yellow stripes in the Moscow Region, the thought arises: either he is not the same or everything is wrong ....

            So be it ... hide the historical truth! Cossacks near Moscow ..... RUBLEVS founded! wassat bully Well, like chopped there. bully
            Quote: SSI
            But they are baptized, it hurts ....

            So after all, it was they who, together with the Poles of the siege of the Trinity Sergius Lavra, learned in the Time of Troubles.
            Despite the first setbacks, it was the Cossacks who remained to besiege the Poles in the Moscow Kremlin and waited for the approach of the Second Militia of Minin and Pozharsky.
            bully Aha - besieged in Tushino, under the command of the future next license plate False Dmitry in a common people called Tushinsky Thief. There, the future self-proclaimed patriarch, the father of the Orthodox Tsar Misha, was still rubbed,
            Both Minin and Pozharsky preferred to see foreigners on the Russian throne. Cossacks advocated the enthronement of the “Orthodox sovereign”. It was they who elevated Romanov to the throne. Several thousand Cossacks took to the streets of Moscow and presented an ultimatum to the Zemsky Sobor with the demand to approve exactly Mikhail Romanov. They confirmed the seriousness of their intentions with sabers on top of the letter. By the way, in Poland the first Romanov was nicknamed "the Cossack king" for this.
            This current connoisseur of true, not Norman gishtoria prefers not to notice WHERE Pozharsky was with Minin, when they thieves the fellow-brother-in-law Misha, the "Orthodox", on the throne and anointed the papa. bully He would say right away - Pozharsky and Minin were chasing after the Poles, well, they were catching up to return the “foreign king”, and the Tushinsky “got ahead of them - they put theirs on the throne.” bully Zhirik is right - the Unified State Examination should be abolished and those who passed through it again should be taught. bully
          2. novel66
            novel66 16 March 2018 09: 37
            +10
            I immediately remembered -: "when the Jewish Cossacks revolted ...."
          3. Serge Gorely
            Serge Gorely 16 March 2018 10: 10
            +9
            Quote: SSI
            When you see a “Cossack” with yellow stripes in the Moscow Region, the thought arises: either he’s not the same, or everything’s wrong .... You can’t think of any other "mummers" ... But they are baptized, it hurts ....

            Yes her, this is not so funny. And how do you like the Baltic !!!! Cossacks with blue stripes in Kaliningrad ??? That's where the scumbag!
        2. raw174
          raw174 16 March 2018 08: 51
          +4
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          And our name is mummers ...

          Similarly. They tried to strengthen police squads (tap DND), there is no result, because they have neither authority nor special desire.
          I believe that Cossacks today can find application in patriotic work with youth (work in clubs and camps) and in the tourism sector (identity, flavor). For war there is Moscow Region, they go to service on a common basis, that’s all.
          1. SERGUS
            SERGUS 16 March 2018 12: 18
            +5
            Quote: raw174
            I believe that Cossacks today can find application in patriotic work with youth (work in clubs and camps) and in the tourism sector (identity, flavor).

            Nowadays, I do not see any perspective of the Cossacks, it could exist only at a certain point in time under certain conditions, but in modern realities it is more of a hobby, but no more. In modern Europe there is no chivalry!?
            1. Dedall
              Dedall 16 March 2018 20: 12
              +4
              Respected SERGUS, I would like to explain to you that the Cossacks, in the form that it has been preserved in our history, formed under the chieftain and, along the way, the column (!) Platov. It was this historical figure who proposed concluding an agreement between the Cossacks and the ruling house of the Romanovs. So to speak, summed up the legislative framework under the status of Cossacks.
              According to this agreement, the Autocrat allocated the Cossacks with land. And her ownership was not taxed, like the Cossacks themselves. He also agreed with the introduction of a specific form of self-government that existed on the lands of the Cossack army. And in return he demanded only one thing - going on a hike at any time at his request. Therefore, the Cossack should have had everything for military operations: a horse, harness, saddle, uniform and weapon.
              The Cossacks acted as separate military units with their own Charter. Hence the specific military ranks, and even the methodology of teaching military affairs. That is, in fact, the Russian territories that were transferred to the Cossack troops were a fee for performing military service. So, they were a kind of hired army, personally subordinate to the Tsar.
              If we talk about the prospects of the revival of the classical Cossacks according to the precepts of Platov, then they are none. Nobody in today's Russia is interested in having a crowd of armed people without sane leaders and clear tasks with an appropriate legislative base.
              1. SERGUS
                SERGUS 17 March 2018 16: 42
                0
                Quote: Dedall
                Nobody in today's Russia is interested in having a crowd of armed people without sane leaders and clear tasks with an appropriate legislative base.

                Well, probably the reason is not entirely in this, otherwise how are private military companies, talks about which periodically pop up?
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 16 March 2018 15: 45
        +2
        Quote: Vard
        Cossacks ... I don’t know where and in the case ... And we have their name mummers ...

        ===
        current, yes, but not all. the main thing is the Cossack cadet corps, on them, and the guys from there, all hope.
      3. andrewkor
        andrewkor 16 March 2018 16: 35
        +5
        1998, somewhere near Tyumen. The local chieftain is a Jew, the Tyumen is a German, my brother-in-law is a Tatar also a Cossack. On a wall carpet, a checker hanging from a spring is beautiful, but heavy !!! It’s impossible to wear it. much, but under the tsarist time it is obligatory, in a boot a nagayka with her can be easily killed. Circus, and only only. I don’t know how now, I haven’t seen it live for a long time. Zyatek all dreamed that the Cossacks would allocate land and signed up. They have a documentary document, like they were before. Well, to grab it myself, that where it’s badly lying, it’s even more correct than simple, I dabbled with it myself!
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 16 March 2018 17: 00
          +2
          Quote: andrewkor
          The local chieftain is a Jew, the Tyumen is a German, my son-in-law is a Tatar

          =====
          Cossack is not a nationality, if you mean it. way, traditions, faith and service made people of all nationalities Cossacks
          1. andrewkor
            andrewkor 17 March 2018 05: 34
            0
            Of course you are 100% right, but still cool. Or am I a latent chauvinist?
          2. your1970
            your1970 19 March 2018 09: 05
            +2
            Quote: Victorio
            Quote: andrewkor
            The local chieftain is a Jew, the Tyumen is a German, my son-in-law is a Tatar

            =====
            Cossack is not a nationality, if you mean it. way, traditions, faith and service made people of all nationalities Cossacks
            -only here about the aliens, they said: "hohls", "wet", and the like Jews ...
            and categorically did not accept the Cossacks .. at least our Ural Cossacks ..
  2. Serge Gorely
    Serge Gorely 16 March 2018 06: 46
    +12
    Modern Cossack "troops" remind the Romain Theater a lot of tinsel ... and that's it.
  3. populist
    populist 16 March 2018 06: 54
    +13
    An attempt to create loyal servants of the regime and divide the people along another line.
    1. aleks_29296
      aleks_29296 16 March 2018 08: 16
      +7
      Faithful servants of the regime have already been created, only a little south. And they are not from that people at all.
    2. 23rus
      23rus 16 March 2018 08: 38
      +1
      Yes, as a national squad.
  4. Deck
    Deck 16 March 2018 06: 59
    +10
    Dangerous and warlike people


    So all the same people, not the estate. Rather, a small nation that all the time tries to teach the Russian people how to live.
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 16 March 2018 07: 09
      +12
      One of the main Yeltsin crimes is the creation of a new "people" instead of the estate. As for the unity of this "people" from the Cossacks von Panwitz to the current Ukraine, where the Cossacks are fighting against each other. The article is delusional.
      1. Dimagan
        Dimagan 19 March 2018 16: 33
        -1
        This Panwitz was given to you. There was Krasnov, and that was the Russian General Vlasov with the Russian Liberation Army (ROA). In Chechens, Uzbeks, Georgians, no one is dressed up, do not know why?
        1. Serge Gorely
          Serge Gorely 19 March 2018 16: 39
          +1
          Quote: Dimagan
          This Panwitz was given to you. There was Krasnov, and that was the Russian General Vlasov with the Russian Liberation Army (ROA). In Chechens, Uzbeks, Georgians, no one is dressed up, do not know why?

          Panwitz was not given to me. Here the conversation that the CONDITION is trying to make the PEOPLE is the first. And the second - when the clowns in stripes try to give themselves up as the salt of the Russian land, then to put it mildly, not true.
          1. Dimagan
            Dimagan 21 March 2018 07: 23
            +1
            The Cossacks themselves will figure out how to live, including with the "mummers". And in order to judge the Cossacks, it is advisable to know the subject of conversation and not from a few silly and empty articles. And the second - the Cossack has a prize, and he doesn’t need his own salt. Thirdly, if the progressive democrats are writhing from the Cossacks, then everything is going well and in the right direction.
            1. Serge Gorely
              Serge Gorely 21 March 2018 13: 55
              +1
              Let the Cossacks understand. Exactly until the moment when they began to draw the "Cossack people", hang on themselves St. George's crosses and marshal's epaulettes, and until they begin to talk about Cossacks - the highest race.
    2. Pingo
      Pingo 16 March 2018 07: 26
      +3
      go to a Chechen dressed in his national say.
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 16 March 2018 10: 13
        +2
        Quote: Pingo
        go to a Chechen dressed in his national say.

        Why poke, bro?
        1. Pingo
          Pingo 17 March 2018 04: 36
          0
          and you too, about
          Quote: Serge Gorely
          theater romain

          etc
          1. Serge Gorely
            Serge Gorely 17 March 2018 09: 19
            0
            And where did I poke there, mournful are you ours?
            1. Pingo
              Pingo 18 March 2018 06: 22
              +1
              everywhere you wrote nothing but such rubbish.
              1. Serge Gorely
                Serge Gorely 18 March 2018 13: 02
                0
                Listen, dear. I will respect the arguments. You just bark, and then I’m not interested. Take a walk. Breathe in the air. Drink haloperidol.
                1. Pingo
                  Pingo 18 March 2018 15: 01
                  0
                  you came here to mow, how do you know such clever names for drugs?
                  go with your friends in real life to their Chechens "respect",
                  There are almost no adequat in the comments.
                  1. Serge Gorely
                    Serge Gorely 19 March 2018 06: 47
                    0
                    Do not forget to take the pill.
                    1. Pingo
                      Pingo 19 March 2018 07: 01
                      0
                      "mad pussy" to help you laughing
                      hungover, and again this world became interesting? you can’t take off the clown’s cap when you approach their Sharia patrol, there will be more chances to survive.
                      1. Serge Gorely
                        Serge Gorely 19 March 2018 07: 22
                        0
                        And after the pill, the bainki. Do not bite the orderlies.
                    2. Pingo
                      Pingo 19 March 2018 07: 29
                      0
                      Tell me more about the orderlies.
                      and bacon without garlic before this you howl.
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 19 March 2018 09: 06
                        +1
                        Eka smoothes you ....
                      2. Pingo
                        Pingo 19 March 2018 18: 16
                        +1
                        Oh, someone has already called friends.
                        I’m not there, go 101 times write your sathya why a Russian peasant can’t give a gun, because Switzerland is small like Chechnya and Russia is big and there is no culture because you need to go to the regional center to the nearest shooting range through the forest 300-400 km.
  5. Bastinda
    Bastinda 16 March 2018 07: 09
    +5
    "By the way, even Putin spoke of this."
    This phrase explains everything! laughing
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 16 March 2018 09: 08
      +9
      Cossack faith is special. That says it all.
      - and here it is. Even faith is special. And that's it. So here.
      Quote: Bastinda
      This phrase explains everything!

      Mentioning Putin gives + 200 to the credibility of the lecturer and + 300 to scientific credibility.
      1. Bastinda
        Bastinda 16 March 2018 09: 16
        +3
        And yet - 500 to the intellect. laughing However, like the "special faith."
  6. groks
    groks 16 March 2018 08: 00
    +15
    About 99% of modern Cossacks Igor Malinin sang well "Fogs spread, fools bred, some rushed to dushmans, and others to Cossacks."
  7. Alceers
    Alceers 16 March 2018 08: 34
    +20
    If you think about it, the interview is terrible. And it shows what kind of mess in his head. The individual in all seriousness preaches the superiority of his "people" over other inferior ones. Directly contrasting the Cossacks and the rest of the people of Russia. Accuses the state that it does not encourage this "superiority". He complains about the "split that breaks up the unity of the people", meaning by the people only Cossacks. And the rest didn’t come out with a snout?
    He claims to know the story well. Did you understand her lessons?
    Summary - this subject is already at any moment ready to yell “Docland Uber Alles” or “Glory to the nation death to thieves” (underline as necessary) and without a shadow of a doubt will smite with whips “” at his stable. Like his ideological brothers in the Civil and Patriotic
    1. Romey
      Romey 16 March 2018 09: 59
      +4
      Quote: Alceers
      If you think about it, the interview is terrible. And it shows what kind of mess in his head. The individual in all seriousness preaches the superiority of his "people" over other inferior ones.

      Where? Quite the opposite. No better and no worse than others.
      Quote: Alceers
      Directly contrasting the Cossacks and the rest of the people of Russia. Accuses the state that it does not encourage this "superiority". He complains about the "split that breaks up the unity of the people", meaning by the people only Cossacks. And the rest didn’t come out with a snout?

      The fact is that the author, like many ethnic Cossacks who seek themselves in this world, has porridge and confusion in their heads. This is quite natural. And the main mistake of modern Cossacks is the dream of returning to some ideal past, which was far from ideal. In general, the author speaks here only and only about Cossacks, as an ethnic phenomenon. The rest have nothing to do with the Cossacks. Therefore, when it comes to a split among the Cossacks.
      Quote: Alceers

      Summary - this subject is already at any moment ready to yell “Docland Uber Alles” or “Glory to the nation death to thieves” (underline as necessary) and without a shadow of a doubt will smite with whips “” at his stable. Like his ideological brothers in the Civil and Patriotic

      Again another set of superficial stereotypes. As if there were no Russians who took the white side or there were no Russian colo-collaborationists. And about flogging with whips in general it’s ridiculous ... Or, to disperse unauthorized processions and rallies, was it better to expose artillery and fire a volley of shrapnel? In general, the light converged on the Cossacks and they are to blame for everything. And no one wondered: why the bulk of the Cossacks were against the Soviet regime? Is it because the Soviet government made no efforts to attract the Cossacks to its sides? But it was easy enough ...
      In general, we don’t have to idealize us and we don’t have to demonize us. Cossacks were the same as everyone. No worse and no better. And the main mistake in assessing the events of the Cossack history is an absolute misunderstanding of the differences in mentality and worldview of Cossacks and Great Russians, and Ukrainians too.
      1. urman
        urman 16 March 2018 13: 00
        +2
        Quote: romey
        And no one wondered: why the bulk of the Cossacks were against the Soviet regime?

        And because the bulk of the government owls were from the God-chosen, and the Cossacks were like a bone in the throat.
        1. Alceers
          Alceers 16 March 2018 13: 46
          +11
          Here it is! You with such nonsense in the magazine "light" for 86 years T.E. is it the Jews who are to blame and not because the Cossacks organized their own dwarf states and chieftains and began to genocide all non-Cossacks with gang raids in the vicinity? Two of you on the story.
      2. your1970
        your1970 19 March 2018 09: 15
        +1
        Quote: romey
        why the bulk of the Cossacks was against the Soviet regime?

        why did the peasants gnaw their horses out? did not hesitate, didn’t they? Why did they burn the furniture? Why did they cut down fruit trees?
        Indeed, according to the peasant sense, all this in the economy is not "possible to use", but NECESSARY use !!! but no - gouged, burned, chopped ...
        Just the peasants clearly remembered how they CHANGE on these horses / furniture ...
        And the Cossacks are the same gentry, without taxes, without hardships, even without participating in wars, in which they kind of MANDATED participate...
        But for some reason, oooooh, very few Cossacks participated in the WWI — and even less fell to the front. The peasantry put up much more percentages of recruits. The word "corruption" was not invented in the 21st century - and the Cossacks always had money ...

        here for all this in aggregate, and the Cossacks deduced as an expense in the 20th.
        And do not about "Moscow ordered !!" - Moscow then had practically no power, local (who knew everything about the Cossacks) - destroyed the Cossacks.
        1. Pingo
          Pingo 19 March 2018 18: 17
          0
          erupted ... a Cossack on a "local" armored train
          1. your1970
            your1970 20 March 2018 09: 31
            0
            and you easily get hysterical ...
  8. Alex_59
    Alex_59 16 March 2018 09: 05
    +14
    I am not a supporter of the Cossacks in the form described in this interview. Russia is already a patchwork quilt from different nationalities and nationalities, and here we see an attempt to create another, separate branch, already inside purely Russian people. Yes, the Russians are not monolithic, but nevertheless, the condition of self-identification “I am Russian”, and not “I am Uralian”, “I am Siberian”, “I am Cossack” should be in the first place. This is not necessary. We have little grief with Ukrainians, who are essentially the same Russians, only South Russians. Let's set up crushing within our country. Then, after all, it may not stop at one Cossacks. There are Pomors - also a very distinctive culture within the Russian ethnic group. Let them also begin to push that they are not just Russian, but Pomors. With its deep history and unique traditions. Well, of course, history and traditions are unique - they are generally unique in each region. There are Urals, Volga, Siberians. Are these all different nations or what?
    And from personal communication with the Cossacks - they really love the indicative side of the issue. Medals, uniforms, everything that works for the image. My father-in-law entered the Cossacks as he retired. They gave out some ribbons. Now they sometimes have training camps - with ambition and ambitions for a kind of “deep historical tradition”, but apart from having a pair of caps and these ribbons, I did not notice any differences from the usual drunken gatherings of pensioners.
    1. Romey
      Romey 16 March 2018 09: 34
      +6
      Quote: Alex_59
      I am not a supporter of the Cossacks in the form described in this interview. Russia is already a patchwork quilt from different nationalities and nationalities, and here we see an attempt to create another, separate branch, already inside purely Russian people.

      I, too, am not a supporter of the current attempts of the "revivalists," but nevertheless, if we talk about those same, real Cossacks, they categorically did not consider themselves Russian. Like or dislike someone this, but nevertheless it is a fact. And this is the main difference from the current clowns. If we want to preserve the crumbs of the Cossack spiritual and material culture that were left to us by our grandfathers and great-grandfathers, then for this it is enough to officially recognize the Cossacks as a small, endangered people and not to impede the creation of national-cultural autonomies in the places where the Cossacks compactly reside. Or do you also think that 48 thousand people of both sexes, according to the 2010 Census, are scattered throughout the Russian Federation, moreover, in the large cities, the next "sacred bonds" will undermine? We don’t need anything more. We can do without any "services", epaulettes and other tsatsk. To do this, there are relevant state institutions like the army or the police. And a Cossack, like any citizen of the Russian Federation, has the right to choose who and how to be. And then here some have already agreed that they say if you are not in mummers, it means not a Cossack. Although the majority of these most loyal to the Cossacks have nothing to do, and I unearthed a pedigree, I know and honor all my ancestors starting from ser. 18th century. And some ghouls now tell who the Cossack is and who is not .... am
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 16 March 2018 10: 29
        +5
        If we want to preserve the crumbs of the Cossack spiritual and material culture that were left to us by our grandfathers and great-grandfathers, then for this it is enough to officially recognize the Cossacks as a small, endangered people and not to impede the creation of national-cultural autonomies in the places where the Cossacks compactly reside.
        I personally think that the conditions for preserving the spiritual and material culture of all the peoples of Russia have already been created and do not require the creation of unnecessary entities. For me personally, for example, nothing decisively prevents me from preserving the spiritual and material culture of my family and family. I do not see such obstacles for those who consider themselves to be Cossacks. And if we declare every cultural community a “disappearing people”, then after the Cossacks, Pomors, Urals, Siberians, Volga, Vyatichi, Krivichi, Polyana, Drevlyans, etc. will line up. Will it benefit Russia? I think not really.
        Quote: romey
        Or do you also think that 48 thousand people of both sexes according to the 2010 Census of the year, scattered throughout the Russian Federation, moreover, in the large cities, the next "sacred bonds" will undermine?

        For a penny - a ruble to pile up, for a drop - the sea. Only the Cossacks will probably not greatly undermine our national unity. Only my question is - why is it possible for the Cossacks, but not for us Pomors? And the crowd will follow them. And what will happen in a hundred years? Commonwealth of specific principalities?
        Quote: romey
        And the Cossack, like any citizen of the Russian Federation, has the right to choose who and how to be.
        That's it. And no laws on the Cossacks are needed. Everything is already there.
        1. already a Muscovite
          already a Muscovite 17 March 2018 09: 06
          +1
          Quote: Alex_59
          Only my question is - why is it possible for the Cossacks, but not for us Pomors?

          In-in ... Just give free rein, they will begin to revive and demand money, land, a coat of arms, a flag, an anthem .. etc ... They see a separate people, and they themselves will determine who belongs to this people and who no ... But the people, the people consist of different social elements. Thieves, maniacs, stupid people are imbeciles, citizens with low social responsibility, all kinds of blue and other bad things ... So no, they don’t want to see these in their people ... It's supposedly all the alien "Russian" elements ...
      2. Dimagan
        Dimagan 21 March 2018 09: 41
        -1
        quote = Romei] And some ghouls now tell who the Cossack is and who is not ....
        [/ quote] Well said!
        Many who simply work as Cossacks.
      3. Dimagan
        Dimagan 21 March 2018 09: 52
        -1
        Here the planes are not the same and the army is not right. So the Cossacks are not tact, and live wrong! It was already in the 20s, passed!
    2. zoolu350
      zoolu350 17 March 2018 18: 38
      +1
      You're right. “Cossacks” is one of the directions of atomization of the Russian people by the oligarchy of the Russian Federation into thousands of unrelated parts, so that it cannot merge into the Monolith and gain indestructible power. Therefore, small but cohesive groups of Caucasians often rule in groups consisting mainly of Russians. In the 21st century, the practical meaning in the activities of the "Cossacks" is absent as such, another subculture such as Goths, punks, emo, etc.
  9. BAI
    BAI 16 March 2018 09: 15
    +8
    Revive the Cossacks, then the nobility, merchant guilds, etc. And why this ethnographic circus? Yes, the monarchy still needs to be revived - all to the roots, all to the roots. ROC - in the heat, we return to the wise men and priests of Perun. This is our original, this is our salvation, if there is nothing more to do.
    1. novel66
      novel66 16 March 2018 09: 36
      +4
      be careful! if you dig too deep - we’ll run into protoukra lol
  10. Korax71
    Korax71 16 March 2018 09: 39
    +12
    My neighbor is also a Cossack. Is he a top manager, or a policeman, who would still know their ranks. So after each Cossack gathering, a Boska crackles for a week, but there’s a new medal on his chest from the series “for taking a sofa.” already heeling on his side. another comrade, a terrible ensign retired when he was serving together, he had a rebellion from hell, his face was noticeable. On his chest there were 2 medals and stripes red-yellow long almost in a footcloth. from whom of them two more did history of the state create history and who benefits more? hi
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 16 March 2018 10: 22
      +3
      Tell me who your friend is and I’ll tell you who ... Doesn’t work here! They will not take you to their army! Looks like something did not work out? And in komenta, the bile of envy and malice is spilled, do you trap yourself with drinking buddies in garages and gateways? And instead of "medals" the bottoms of empty cans?
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 16 March 2018 16: 59
        +11
        You know, in order to communicate with you on the same level, I will have to lie down. I have not a bit of bile in my comment, but with a medal-bummer. Canning cans will not work. I have money from me. The whole commander of the Guards of the Civil War handed over. So all your grievances, by. who needs it, I have already proved everything and there are documents yes Well, if I offended your Cossack feelings, then I'm sorry, now it’s definitely not worth taking me to your Alcodivision. But somehow we will survive hi
  11. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 16 March 2018 10: 11
    +5
    Well, that's wonderful! Everyone who was not too lazy spoke up. I wrote it off last time — in relation to the Cossacks, you can determine exactly what kind of Russian you are and how patriotic you are!
    So the next Cossack racer revealed the true essence of those hanging out in the VO. It is unclear what they are doing on the site. The site is kind of patriotic (it’s not for nothing that the editors bring this topic to light from slumber), but the bulk have already prepared a shit bucket and a fan on! I will know that the fifth column is everywhere among us! Here they are real mummers clowns! All tear shirts on my chest - I'm the most patriotic patriot! And the davidshlomo themselves sparkles in the ass!
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 16 March 2018 10: 56
      +12
      Quote: sib.ataman
      So the next Cossack racer revealed the true essence of those hanging out in the VO. It is unclear what they are doing on the site. The site is kind of patriotic (it’s not for nothing that the editors bring this topic to light from slumber), but the bulk have already prepared a shit bucket and a fan on! I will know that the fifth column is everywhere among us! Here they are real mummers clowns! All tear shirts on my chest - I'm the most patriotic patriot! And the davidshlomo themselves sparkles in the ass!

      You know, there is such a wonderful Russian proverb: There is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the mug is crooked. People judge the Cossacks by the Cossacks they see. And they see, for the most part, precisely mummers who, having clothed a richly decorated uniform, at best defile along the streets and require special treatment. And in the worst - they organize another private security company and begin to "protect" themselves. In short - the next Atamans of the Paramonovs.
    2. Alceers
      Alceers 16 March 2018 13: 51
      +11
      You have interesting logic. Who is opposed to the fact that the crowd in parrot feathers and a hangover syndrome give some privileges and set aside that unpatriot in a separate estate? Are you in yourself at all?
    3. Romey
      Romey 16 March 2018 19: 17
      +1
      And there is nothing, Your Excellency, to disgrace us (ethnic Cossacks) by persecuting grandmothers at train stations and all kinds of cosplay. Therefore, the attitude of people towards you is appropriate ...
    4. Old warrior
      Old warrior 21 March 2018 10: 29
      0
      Patriotic site, and where does the Cossacks? Have you seen many RUSSIANS among them? And ask in the forehead - even quite adequate men think.
  12. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 16 March 2018 10: 50
    +4
    “In 2017, Cossacks, together with Russian border guards, will guard the border with Lithuania and Poland (Cossacks of Kaliningrad), Japan and China (Trans-Baikal and Ussuri Cossacks) and Georgia (Kuban Cossacks). In total, it is planned to attract three thousand Cossacks from the indicated Cossack troops. This decision has been agreed with the FSB Border Guard
    It was right there for all Cossacks on the border and there was always a place, because in tsarist times the tsar decided where the Cossacks should be and where not. Today the Orenburg Cossacks are already guarding the border with Kazakhstan, the longest Russian border. Don Cossacks guard the border with Ukraine - the most explosive.
    1. zoolu350
      zoolu350 17 March 2018 18: 45
      +1
      Useless event. It’s better to have some of these “Cossacks” for a contract in the FSB FS of the Russian Federation, and some are simply in the DND without any “clowning”.
    2. Old warrior
      Old warrior 21 March 2018 10: 33
      0
      Well, of course, there’s nobody else. They thought up hemorrhoids on their heads, but now they don’t know where to put it (because they don’t need figs), so they are trying to stick it somewhere.
      1. Vlad Petrov
        Vlad Petrov 24 March 2018 11: 01
        0
        The creation of border Cossack settlements in Transbaikalia, on the Amur, the border of Kazakhstan makes sense. For land development, forestry, agricultural activities, industrial production. And participation in protecting the state border.
  13. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 16 March 2018 11: 04
    +5
    Many modern Cossacks are distinguished by some increased piety - such as "it also went from the ancestors ..."

    Modern Cossacks are mostly mummers of clowns who themselves assign ranks and hang awards. Any shelupon creeps into the Cossacks to fall under the action of 154-FZ
    1. Pingo
      Pingo 18 March 2018 15: 14
      +1
      and over the real they took and put on the mummers of a non-Russian general from the federals yes those who were before him were depressed, deprived of everything and driven out.
      who said that after this country the Cossacks need? laughing
      1. your1970
        your1970 20 March 2018 09: 36
        0
        Quote: Pingo
        who said that after this country the Cossacks need?
        But who of the serious people said this?
  14. alatanas
    alatanas 16 March 2018 11: 26
    +5
    that the Cossacks are like a people

    They will come up with another “Cossack language”, and then they will want autonomy and a “Cossack alphabet” based on the Latin, maybe created. lol
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 16 March 2018 15: 49
      +2
      Quote: alatanas
      that the Cossacks are like a people

      Yet "Cossack language" they’ll come up with, and then they’ll want autonomy and they will create a “Cossack alphabet” on the basis of the Latin one. lol

      ===
      why fool around without knowing the question. the ethnos was, something was left, something was reborn. ancestors and himself from the Kuban, there is also a local dialect, for your information
      1. alatanas
        alatanas 16 March 2018 16: 20
        +3
        My respect, but not "foolishness" at all. In my family, too, the Kuban Cossacks are on the line of my mother, but attributing them to a separate ethnic group because of the local dialect is completely frivolous.
        We in Bulgaria know this very well, as we did artificially from the Bulgarians who remained outside the borders of Bulgaria of all kinds:
        Southern Serbs (Macedonians since 1946)
        Slavic Greeks (Bulgarian-Mohamedans in northern Greece), etc!
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 16 March 2018 17: 12
          0
          Quote: alatanas
          but to classify them as a separate ethnic group - it is not serious at all.

          ====
          you wrote nonsense they will come up with a "Cossack language", and then they will also want autonomy and a "Cossack alphabet" based on Latin, they answered you. ethnos, estate, cultural and ethnic group - the decision is up to specialists, and you are discussing with them.
          1. alatanas
            alatanas 16 March 2018 17: 38
            +1
            I'm sorry you didn’t understand the humor request
  15. maxim1987
    maxim1987 16 March 2018 11: 37
    +3
    Nehai go to the Far East to master the Caucasus, Semirechye, etc., as their grandfathers
  16. Glory1974
    Glory1974 16 March 2018 11: 51
    +7
    raids are going on in the Russian principalities - a “Tatarva” and a horde appear. There is a defense of the Russian lands and raids on Osmania - Cossacks and troops appear. For me, these are the same people.

    That is, before the Cossacks - this is the "Tatars" and "horde"
    The Cossacks assimilated, differences have already begun and within themselves. They began to make a military class of them, ascribed Cossacks appeared.

    Then the horde settled in place, assimilated
    Since its inception, the Cossacks not only intervened everywhere, but actually created the history of the state. Of course, they pursued an independent policy

    Then they began to lead the state
    Dangerous and warlike people survived the terrible genocide.

    Survived the repression
    That's just "mummers" I would cut off on the threshold. From them only harm to the Cossacks ...

    He began to revive and try to fight the "wrong" Cossacks
    Cossacks are definitely a part of the Russian world, one of its most striking components.

    now they are like Russians, but some are better or better

    The author has a mess in the head from fragmentary knowledge. I do not want to seem like a reinsurer, but it seems to me that Ukraine also started in the beginning of the 90's with a small one. Now we are enemies, and Ukrainians consider themselves ancient Russia, and we are Finno-Ugric.
    Don't you think that "the same training manual"?
  17. Blue fox
    Blue fox 16 March 2018 12: 07
    +4
    In St. Petersburg there are two extremes on the streets: mumbled in worn-out lame men on bicycles and in the subway and tinted Mercedes of the latest model with the inscription "Cossack guard". And besides this, a growing number of land plots allocated free of charge to the newly formed Cossack societies in the format of NPOs for their events and obscure development.
  18. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 March 2018 12: 32
    +8
    Why, for example, the fugitives did not hide in the forests, but went into the steppe, where by definition it is impossible to hide? Why did they settle where the main arteries of any state can be controlled — along roads and rivers?
    Because they hid, of course, in the forests. Only in the forest you yourself have to plow. Work hard. To suck Not for the Cossack, right? You can’t hide in the steppe ?! Wow! Is this from royal helicopters? Because if there is no aviation, then you can hide, and even how, not a single dog will find. Anyhow the horse was. Good conic - and catch the horse stomp, people!
    And then the arteries. And veins. And other blood vessels, from which the hand stretches out to pump out a little, having gathered a vigorous mock-up, which has nothing to lose at all - "they didn’t go to that city because there was waiting for their block. But they didn’t go to another either, because the gallows were waiting there ! " As we did not dream of people, but the Cossack roots are gangster roots. And the reluctance to admit it strengthens the chest of the Cossacks with cartoons, making of them a miserable sight and a little even shameful.
    And also, not wanting to recognize their true roots, they cut off the future for themselves. It's a pity. The tsarist government has made great strides in making the warriors out of a gangster free-will - proud, free and strong, devoted to their people, mother motherland, faith and the Fatherland. But as soon as the Power wobbles, it immediately climbs out of the Cossack milieu to an unrecognized, but the same, heartfelt, ancient, living in darkness and not dying in any way.
    Banditry. Oh, in 90 and the Cossacks showed all the Cossacks, well, beauty, tree-stick. Yes, and now enough, as I understand it ...
    1. your1970
      your1970 20 March 2018 09: 45
      +1
      not only Cossacks were hiding in the steppe, but also Old Believers, runaway and others dissatisfied with the authorities ...
      and about "robbing" (this is holy !! "bribe" was not taken - bribe is a small amount of money in Central Asian dialects) - there were other ways to fix it. Cordons had the right to take a toll on Cossack (not sovereign !!) roads - and go find out where we have in the steppe of the sovereign ..
      and a well - and water for a money to the owner is generally like two fingers ...
  19. urman
    urman 16 March 2018 12: 52
    +1
    We must remember the basic qualities of the Cossack - he must be stately, reference and dashing. \\\
    Her paternal grandmother, her kingdom of heaven, recalled, she herself was a Cossack, like her grandfather.
    As he says to marry a man, the Cossacks are all slender, neat.
    and men forever in torn pants and so on.
    1. Alceers
      Alceers 16 March 2018 13: 48
      +2
      T.E. Cossacks according to your own words did not know how to work
      1. Serge Gorely
        Serge Gorely 16 March 2018 16: 24
        +5
        Quote: Alceers
        T.E. Cossacks according to your own words did not know how to work

        Well no. Here about something else.
        Quote: urman
        We must remember the basic qualities of the Cossack - he must be stately, reference and dashing. \\\
        Her paternal grandmother, her kingdom of heaven, recalled, she herself was a Cossack, like her grandfather.
        As he says to marry a man, the Cossacks are all slender, neat.
        and men forever in torn pants and so on.

        Here, the Cossacks go on to say that they are the highest race, and the male sivolapoe is the lowest. In the words of Old Man von Panwitz Ubermenschi and Untermenschi.
        1. urman
          urman 16 March 2018 17: 22
          0
          For example, when I come to a car service and see a dirty as hell locksmith, I leave immediately.
          T to his appearance immediately suggests that he simply does not know his job and his hands are growing from the wrong place, does not know what he will grab.
        2. urman
          urman 16 March 2018 17: 31
          +1
          When I read the next comments about the Cossacks.
          I immediately recall Chubais’s statement about the Russian people; his love for Dostoevsky was not the same as that of the liberals.
          So I come to the conclusion that on the website chubaysyat divorced is not measured.
          Do you even look at the mat parts to look at the map of Russia and the geographical names given by the Cossacks.
          All of these anti-commentators on the sucks of the State Department, Russian history is so derided with such joy.
          1. avt
            avt 16 March 2018 18: 25
            +11
            Quote: urman
            I immediately recall Chubais’s statement about the Russian people; his love for Dostoevsky was not the same as that of the liberals.

            And if you also study, study and again - study, start, well,
            Quote: urman
            , Russian history
            and not alternative, then a lot of things else you will learn not only about
            Quote: urman
            geographical names given by the Cossacks.
            , as well as who sent them in different directions, bestowed and supported with regular units of the army in service. Well, at the same time you will find out how sometimes the Cossacks repaid cleanly in Orthodox Russia and the current government. Start with ,, Time of Troubles "and smoothly move on to," everything is ours "to Pushkin. Well, his stories of the Pugachevsky rebellion. Well, you know, for example, that Lenin called Duboevsky Doboyevsky a crappy old man, unlike Tolstov, who for him was, “A block, a baby man” So there is a hat, a boot and bootlegs, and a scream -call ,, Liu-yu-yu-yuba-ah-ah! " There is no indulgence for a direct entry into paradise with a mandate sealed - a patriot of the fatherland. For presenting to the Apostle Peter at the entrance. But since, knowledge multiplies sorrow and do not want to be upset at thoughts, it is possible to do this like jumping on a skipping rope, waving a checker, I will chop it off from the State Department.
            1. urman
              urman 16 March 2018 19: 01
              0
              Well, and how are you different from the liberals?
              Or from the previously present political leaders?
              They also quoted Lenin right and left.
              Only in 93 they forgot about their oath.
              Only pensions were required.
              Well, in order to hide their worthlessness, they are ready to at least attack anyone, as they say on a thief and the hat is on fire.
              1. avt
                avt 16 March 2018 19: 43
                +3
                Quote: urman
                Well, and how are you different from the liberals?

                From you ? As well as from the idiots? Knowledge and diligence to know the world in comparison.
                Quote: urman
                Well, in order to hide their worthlessness, they are ready to at least attack anyone, as they say on a thief and the hat is on fire.

                Here you are the same thief
                The present intelligentsia is such a spiritual sect.

                What is characteristic: they don’t know anything, they don’t know anything, but they judge everything

                and absolutely do not accept dissent
                That in fact, at least I have stated, well, about
                Quote: avt
                Start with ,, Time of Troubles "and smoothly move on to," everything is ours "to Pushkin. Well, his stories of the Pugachev riot

                Can you tell? Nothing, but only with the perseverance of the sectarian
                Quote: urman
                Well, and how are you different from the liberals?

                Quote: urman
                Or from the previously present political leaders?

                So those though
                Quote: urman
                They also quoted Lenin right and left.

                that is, at least something, even if they were forced to, read, some knowledge received. But you, as a true intellectual, do not need this - you get rich with your thoughts, but in fact you give someone else's investment to you, but sincerely believing that it’s both a prosecutor and a judge to yourself, as a true liberal, to yourself at the same time. what others condemned in absentia
                Quote: urman
                Well, in order to hide their worthlessness, they are ready to at least attack anyone, as they say on a thief and the hat is on fire.
                1. urman
                  urman 16 March 2018 20: 08
                  0
                  Yes, for me, that Kovalev, that Latin, that kovtuns with Koreans, that you, all of you are of the same field of berries, demagogues and Ivanes who do not remember kinship.
                  Eck how sausages you, from the history of Russia, give such a free rein everything would be rewritten as Bolsheviks in 17 and as liberalists in 91
                  1. avt
                    avt 16 March 2018 21: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: urman
                    Yes, for me, that Kovalev, that Latin, that kovtuns with Koreans, that you, all of you are of the same field of berries, demagogues and Ivanes who do not remember kinship.

                    bully From the fact that they are richer in thought, that is actually confirmed
                    Quote: urman
                    Eck how sausages you, from the history of Russia, give such a free rein everything would be rewritten as Bolsheviks in 17 and as liberalists in 91
                    That is NEVER specific
                    Quote: urman
                    Russian history

                    You do not know, from the word AT ALL, but only virtual reality you live sprinkling saliva if real life does not coincide with thoughts. That is, all lies and Pushkin, too bully Although, unlike you, he is crucifying here, he wrote his story of the Pugachev rebellion through the places of events and on the basis of archives. But actually, who am I? A victim of a sect ordered in bootlegs with a whip?
                    Bring me to prison
                    For any term -
                    All this one science
                    Do not go to me, fool, for the future!
                    Jump further on a skipping rope, with a choir of the same performers of artistic whistle with a dance. bully
                    1. avt
                      avt 16 March 2018 21: 38
                      +3
                      Quote: avt
                      Jump further on a skipping rope, with a choir of the same performers of artistic whistle with a dance.

                      Yes ! about
                      Quote: urman
                      Ivana do not remember kinship.

                      My great-grandfather, never a Cossack, wore a full bow, but yours?
                    2. urman
                      urman 16 March 2018 21: 40
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                      Everything is numb, such as you, the sloths and demagogues, first in 17 countries were destroyed then in 91.
                      Would you hold a rally, yes gulpovanit, yes to look for the guilty, did not try to work?
                      1. avt
                        avt 17 March 2018 08: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: urman
                        Everything is numb, such as you, the sloths and demagogues, first in 17 countries were destroyed then in 91.
                        Would you hold a rally, yes gulpovanit, yes to look for the guilty, did not try to work?

                        bully Well, which of us is specific
                        Quote: urman
                        sloths and demagogues

                        quite sputtering on a monitor in a fit of lack of facts
                        Quote: urman
                        to rally, yes to gasp, and to look for the guilty,

                        bully With the answer to
                        Quote: avt
                        My great-grandfather, never a Cossack, wore a full bow, but yours?

                        issued
                        Quote: urman
                        did not try to work?

                        Go in jumps and look for the gistoria of your ancestors, then come and see if I’ll talk with an adult. bully
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          2. Old warrior
            Old warrior 21 March 2018 10: 38
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            Cossacks by TITLE, as well as archers, reytar and so on ...
      2. avt
        avt 16 March 2018 19: 56
        +5
        Quote: urman
        As he says to marry a man, the Cossacks are all slender, neat.
        and men forever in torn pants and so on.

        So after all, in a uniform it’s convenient to run around the girls only, and in the new one no one will go
        Quote: Alceers
        T.E. Cossacks according to your own words did not know how to work

        bully I mean on earth, or what other labor for food? Well, so the king sent lead with gunpowder and a bread salary to them when they were at the service or didn’t run for swag. Read the correspondence of Lyosha, “The Quietest” with the Nogai khan, where the khan thanks the king for calling and complaining about the bread-loaf He didn’t send, we are starving, but at the same time he makes excuses for his myth - he went to KAZAKI without his knowledge and permission. So what is the geographical name for this uh-uh, so what does the khan make excuses for the tsar? Cossacks that the Khan was waiting for a royal decision bully This is sweat, when the authorities combed the freemen, little by little they began to plow the land.
        1. your1970
          your1970 20 March 2018 09: 59
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          geographical names came from power - and not by Cossack whim
          Orlov Gai, Novorepnoe, Aleksandrov Gai, Chizhi 1,2,3, Osinov Gai, Uzen Fortress, all power data.
          The only one out of this series is Lukov Cordon, where the Cossack Luka managed to breed up to 120 people in 70 years. Where was the power to go - if on a farm all Onions, but no newcomers - they did not let me ....
          It really hurt the local nobleman on Uzen - the big river, the border, estuaries, the road, the middle of the path between Novouzensk and Aleksandrov Gai and all other charms for collecting dough
  20. Hlavaty
    Hlavaty 16 March 2018 14: 22
    +6
    Everything should be meaningful. Revive the Cossacks "Schaub Bulo" is meaningless. But there are no real tasks for the Cossacks today: they do not need to conquer new lands, border guards guard the border, riots pacify the internal troops. On all former Cossack affairs there are sovereign people. Yes, maybe they do this job not so well, but no one guarantees that the current Cossacks will do better.
    But it’s necessary to know the history of the clan, it is imperative to remember the ancestors and not only the official history, but also the one that the grandfathers told. And the songs are good to know and dance. If the soul is drawn to study Cossack science - that's great. In any case, you need to keep traditions. The world is changing rapidly, and if today there are no serious tasks for the Cossacks, then tomorrow they may well appear. And then the Cossacks will be reborn without any orders from above.
  21. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 March 2018 14: 55
    +1
    The only place for Cossacks at present is patriotic camps; there may be a roof for PMCs and ethnographic tourism projects.
  22. 82т11
    82т11 16 March 2018 20: 24
    +2
    Ladies and gentlemen)

    well, tell me who is against the fact that his children would learn hand-to-hand combat, could ride a horse (if there is a desire), and in general were brought up like wars?

    These Cossacks were those Russians who had the right to have weapons, in contrast to the simple peasantry. This moment, by the way, is forgotten by those who say that Russians cannot have weapons, but there were Russian people who had weapons. Now the truth is, many "comrades" begin to tell that the Cossacks are a separate nation, let it be on their conscience.

    I don’t know if the Cossacks were a separate nation or estate, but now they are being formed as an estate where anyone can come. By the way, I hope everyone remembers that the USSR was falling apart on a national basis? Why do we step on this rake again? Cossacks is a way of life for those Russians who consider themselves a warrior and defender of their people. Cossacks (according to the stories of my grandmother - I believe her more than all historians put together) were working people, armed and NOT DRINKING.

    Someone, of course, can say that there is a junior army, various clubs for children, and DND for adults, but these are all notions of officials, there is no tradition behind them.

    Russia has long needed initial military training and the traditions of the Cossacks are well suited for this.
    1. avt
      avt 16 March 2018 21: 33
      +3
      Quote: 82т11
      These Cossacks were those Russians who had the right to have weapons, in contrast to the simple peasantry. This moment, by the way, is forgotten by those who say that Russians cannot have weapons, but there were Russian people who had weapons.

      bully Another jumped jump rope to get rich! When do you finally at least something on a topic of interest deign to search before digging. bully
      Quote: 82т11
      (according to the stories of my grandmother - I believe her more than all historians combined)

      Even the newspapers of the tsarist era, which advertised weapons on free sale, including short-barrels, revolvers and pistols Before the revolution, weapons were sold freely.
      Quote: 82т11
      Russia has long needed initial military training

      This is what the Soviet authorities did by creating OSAVIAHIM-DOSAAF, when the preparation was really MASSOVO, but with a significant limitation of the circulation of weapons, you won’t erase words from the song.
      1. 82т11
        82т11 16 March 2018 22: 03
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        Weapons in tsarist Russia do not argue freely about food, only ordinary peasants and workers did not have money to buy it.
        As for the USSR, tell me, how many millions came to defend it when it was destroyed? Where are those who are now tearing a PotSSSR shirt on themselves then? Do you know what answer my friends tell me? They say, "Nothing depended on us and we didn’t decide anything!" What kind of country is this and who did she bring up, that no one opposed its collapse ?!

        But the Cossacks, as it were here, did not rinse them for the most part for the tsar (unfortunately) for which the Red Terror walked along them.

        Here is the difference between DOSAAF and education in the traditions of the Cossacks!
        1. avt
          avt 17 March 2018 09: 05
          +3
          Quote: 82т11
          Weapons in tsarist Russia do not argue freely about food, only ordinary peasants and workers did not have money to buy it.

          Attempt to merge is not counted! Sit down, two. Since once again
          Quote: avt
          When do you finally at least something on a topic of interest deign to search before digging.

          Even if there is no desire to raise statistics on wages and prices, then at least read “Mother” by M. Gorky, he still lived in those days and even fired a pistol at a depresnyak, well, about how a striking master with salaries sent to pacify Then he didn’t have to carry nonsense. A skilled worker could easily get the barrel, but in the village,
          yes, beyond the Ural stone, it’s exotic to live without a gun at all. Hunting is a good help,
          Yes, and from dashing people does not hurt.
          Quote: 82т11
          As for the USSR, tell me, how many millions came to defend it when it was destroyed?

          bully Again, this once again breaks up the Svanidzelemensky ravings that the Soviet people defeated in the Patriotic War, contrary to Stalin and the CPSU / CPSU. For those who are especially dull - without a specific leadership from top to bottom, no one just protects anything and does not win.
          Quote: 82т11
          But the Cossacks, as if here they were not rinsed for the most part were for the king

          bully Oh, I can’t! bully And where was the Cossack corps led by Krasnov ??? Why did Nikolashka not get the bottom out of the station ??? Everything exactly
          Quote: 82т11
          As for the USSR, tell me, how many millions came to defend it when it was destroyed?

          Only instead of the USSR is the tsar. bully Yes, against your Cossack background, the “Wild” division looks even more worthy with its decision on the gangway - we say we won’t get into Russian affairs, they are yours, and if the king wants to, he’ll come to us and take him as a dear guest.
          Quote: 82т11
          for which red terror followed them.

          For Krasnovskaya Cossack walked and quite a fierce fact. And who was just in Civil? And what exactly did the Cossacks do beyond the Urals to remember reluctance? If it weren’t for the atrocities of them and the whites, such a powerful partisan movement would not have been there.
          Quote: 82т11
          Here is the difference between DOSAAF and education in the traditions of the Cossacks!

          bully The difference is huge! In contrast to the class stratum in which the Cossack, troops set up, the Bolsheviks were engaged in the preparation of a mass mobilization reserve. What actually proved to be true in practice.
          1. 82т11
            82т11 21 March 2018 00: 55
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            1. Do you happen to be a descendant of a prince?) Everything was fine with you in tsarist Russia, and the peasants all had guns without exception?) After all, we are talking about Cossacks as part of their military service. If I’m wrong, then you can link to the numbers that show what the salaries of the peasants (not the craftsmen — this elite of workers, namely ordinary hard workers) how much a simple gun cost. And most importantly, do not forget to include here another horse and uniform. And after all this, tell me how many years will the peasant or worker need to buy all this?)
            2. Leaders, of course, are needed, but if the majority of the people don’t care, then no one will appear. If Sobchak had come to power and said give Crimea, surrender the DNI and LC and let's return the 90s, would you be silent too?
            3. Why would Nicholas be pulled out from somewhere if he renounced the crown? Yes, even thought of doing this during the war!
            4. Excuse me, where does the women and children in the Cossack farms? It was a civil war, there on both sides there were hands up to the elbow in blood. And different adventurers from both sides pitted people.
            5. I do not argue that at the end of tsarist Russia, the Cossacks began to turn into a closed caste. Which ultimately played against the Cossacks.
            And what was good for the USSR will not pass in Russia, the people are corrupted by the benefits of civilization. Even from such a simple thing as the TRP, people are scared like hell from incense, and here you are talking about the preparation of the mobility reserve. Tell a lot of your friends, you’re ready in the evenings not to lie on the couch and the TV channel, but to go to the gym, do hand-to-hand fighting and spend money on a shooting gallery. And in another way you won’t create a normal mob reserve.
            So it is necessary to change the consciousness of people, citing the example of ancestors.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 19 March 2018 10: 42
          +2
          Quote: 82т11
          But the Cossacks, as it were here, did not rinse them for the most part for the tsar (unfortunately) for which the Red Terror walked along them.

          For themselves they were. For the garden, the hut and the independent Don Army. And for this, the Cossacks did not disdain anything, up to relations with the emperor of Germany, promising that neutrality and the supply of products.
          The Great Don Army undertakes for the service of Your Imperial Majesty to maintain complete neutrality during the world struggle of the peoples and to prevent the armed forces hostile to the German people from entering its territory, to which Ataman of the Astrakhan Army, pr. Tundutov and the Kuban government, and upon accession, the rest of the Don Caucus Union.
          The Great Don Army grants the German Empire the right to preferentially export surpluses to meet local needs of bread, grain and flour, leather goods and raw materials, wool, fish products, vegetable and animal fats and oils and products from them, tobacco products and products, livestock and horses, wine of grape and other horticultural and agricultural products, in return the German Empire will deliver agricultural machinery, chemical products and tannin extracts, expedition equipment procurement to the state paper with an appropriate supply of materials, equipment for cloth, cotton, leather, chemical, sugar and other factories and electrical equipment.
          © Letter from Ataman Krasnov to the Emperor of the German Empire, William II.
          So the Cossacks were for the king.
          1. 82т11
            82т11 21 March 2018 00: 59
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            Among the Cossacks there were traitors to whom power struck the head, as they say in the family, not without a freak. And among the whites there were those who were ready for anything for the sake of power. And the Reds generally shouted at that time about the world revolution, and that such survivals as families should be abolished.
        3. Old warrior
          Old warrior 21 March 2018 10: 51
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          Only here, many Cossacks at Budyonny served - wasn’t everything so smooth in the Danish Kingdom?
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    3. your1970
      your1970 20 March 2018 10: 11
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      Quote: 82т11
      These Cossacks were those Russians who had the right to have weapons, in contrast to the simple peasantry. This moment, by the way, is forgotten by those who say that Russians cannot have weapons, but there were Russian people who had weapons.
      - Cossacks (when they began to obey the king) GOT weapons from the king. Then, towards the end of the 19th century, they became required to be "horse and arm" if there was not enough money for ammunition belay belay - "society" was MANDATORY equip such a wimp. If the society refused to equip - and it happened like that - it was obliged to take all measures to replace such a "Cossack", the land allotment was selected and he was evicted from the village by pendal

      about the "non-drinkers", this is the grandmother told you a beautiful fairy tale, but you were small and believed her. Existed local names for liquor containers Cossacks have “non-drinkers” laughing
      1. 82т11
        82т11 21 March 2018 01: 05
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        1. And you can read more about obtaining weapons from the king links to documents, otherwise I can also say that the Cossacks, on the contrary, supplied weapons to the tsarist army))?

        2. And as for the drink, then according to your logic, if in the Russian language there is a phrase "Russian vodka" then all Russian drunkards?))))
      2. 82т11
        82т11 21 March 2018 01: 06
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        1. And you can read more about obtaining weapons from the king links to documents, otherwise I can also say that the Cossacks, on the contrary, supplied weapons to the tsarist army))?

        2. And as for the drink, then according to your logic, if in the Russian language there is a phrase "Russian vodka" then all Russian drunkards?))))
  23. Dedall
    Dedall 16 March 2018 20: 29
    +3
    Gentlemen, why do we need this article about an athlete-rector? Well, he has such a whim - to swing a piece of iron and ride a horse, so now he will describe all the cockroaches in the head of the “Vikings” and other “ninjas”?
    It would be better to write about the fact that the stables at the villages that have the status of Cossack, made paid. Moreover, the board is very decent. And how much does a saddle with a bridle cost, you know? The same can be said about shooting ranges with all kinds of shooting ranges. In short, the enthusiasm of such entities, which are described in the article, serves as the basis for the existence of ordinary commercial structures.
    1. 82т11
      82т11 16 March 2018 22: 06
      +1
      In our village, a farmer (he is a Cossack) is engaged in horse breeding, and at the same time, he teaches children and adolescents for free to teach them how to groom and ride horses. So here it depends on people.
  24. ARES623
    ARES623 16 March 2018 21: 00
    +5
    Cossacks are not a nationality, but an element of the state structure. Their time has passed. Today, the Cossacks have no place in the system of state power agencies. This institute has died. Outdated itself. In modern life, Cossacks are present only as public, funny clowns, with rare exceptions, when local authorities find them practical use as an analogue to voluntary squads to protect public order.
    1. 82т11
      82т11 16 March 2018 22: 10
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      Part of these as you say clowns when needed in 2014 went to the Crimea, the LC and the DNI. Where were you at that time?
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 16 March 2018 22: 35
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        Quote: 82т11
        Part of these as you say clowns when needed in 2014 went to the Crimea, the LC and the DNI.

        And how many of them were in Crimea from the number that claim to be “registered”? A special case does not reflect the pattern. In the 90s I had to work with them at public events. The impression is better not to voice ... Today, we have heard about them. The fashion of hats, wooden sabers and orders from cans passed. Although, I repeat, in places where municipal authorities managed to integrate them into the "system", there is some benefit from them.
      2. Old warrior
        Old warrior 21 March 2018 10: 53
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        So what? Not they returned the Crimea. Yes, and in the Donbass they are not the majority.
    2. 82т11
      82т11 16 March 2018 22: 10
      +1
      Part of these as you say clowns when needed in 2014 went to the Crimea, the LC and the DNI. Where were you at that time?
      1. your1970
        your1970 20 March 2018 10: 14
        +1
        Quote: 82т11
        Part of these as you say clowns when needed in 2014 went to the Crimea, the LC and the DNI. Where were you at that time?
        - how many were there? 500-1000-1500?
        No less were there from NOT Cossacks
        1. 82т11
          82т11 20 March 2018 23: 32
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          But there were! So there’s nothing to run into, Cossacks don’t like, make your organization that can replace them and then perform!
  25. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 16 March 2018 21: 08
    +1
    The mobilization of human reserves, that is what the Cossacks should be. So it was and it should be so. And you need to work on it.
    1. 82т11
      82т11 16 March 2018 22: 21
      +1
      Yes, no one argues about this and the Cossacks (normal Cossacks and not mummers) are always ready to serve.

      The problem is that many people think that such a reserve can be made simply by issuing the necessary laws. But simply issuing laws is not enough. Everyone has families that need to be fed, not everyone is ready to spend their time training with weapons and going to the gym. Here it is necessary to instill people in a new way of life, and Cossack traditions are just right for this.
  26. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 17 March 2018 19: 58
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    Lubo Brother !!! Become and the train of thought by five points!
  27. Spnsr
    Spnsr 17 March 2018 22: 14
    0
    The problem of the Cossacks! 25 years of contract service, after which, a soldier receives housing in the city in the dangerous direction of our partners, a certain boarding house on condition of two times. Take a continuing education course in a year, i.e. fees.
  28. tracer
    tracer 18 March 2018 17: 50
    +2
    My grandmother, Elena Mikhailovna used to say so .... "Oh Cossack ...." I used it as a household name. There was no faith in them. Always fought for money, who will pay for it and fight. We never really considered ourselves a part of the Russian people ... "we are Cossacks, we are not Russian" .. I speak from the words of my grandmother, a resident of the Samara region (province). Since the birth of which has passed more than steel
  29. tracer
    tracer 18 March 2018 18: 08
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    I know the Cossacks himself, by hearsay, he lived in the Krasnodar Territory in one of the villages. Real Cossacks don’t go dressed and grandfathers don’t catch on themselves. For they are not deserved. The fisherman at the Kubanka asked the fishermen “what if the Ukrainians trample?” Smiling answered "let them try" ...
  30. Serge Gorely
    Serge Gorely 19 March 2018 08: 46
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    Quote: Pingo
    Tell me more about the orderlies.
    and bacon without garlic before this you howl.

    bye Bye. will work soon.
  31. Pingo
    Pingo 19 March 2018 18: 22
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    Quote: Serge Gorely
    bye Bye. will work soon.

    good-bye, you’ll write it after you approach the Chechens.
    to each his own.
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 20 March 2018 14: 12
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      Quote: Pingo
      Quote: Serge Gorely
      bye Bye. will work soon.

      good-bye, you’ll write it after you approach the Chechens.
      to each his own.

      Right To each his own. This is the Nazis wrote over the entrance to the concentration camp. Approve?
  32. Old warrior
    Old warrior 21 March 2018 10: 11
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    The biggest problem of the present Cossacks is why it is necessary for present-day Russia. Their time has gone 100 years ago. As a small nation, no matter where else it went, but no more.
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 April 1 2018 18: 02
      +1
      small folk the way to separation like dill, all this is paid from London, and the clowns are not funny at all
  33. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 22 March 2018 12: 55
    +1
    After the words that the Norman theory is bursting at the seams and runaway slaves, the article can not be read. From the first lines the game went.
  34. raif
    raif 28 March 2018 19: 28
    +1
    some set of "fashionable and modern" stamps - Cossacks are a separate people, there was no yoke, etc. they even chose Romanov - oh how! and they planted Poles in the Kremlin for a year. he is only silent about how much they plundered Russia — he uttered one phrase. Ermak’s campaign in Siberia without the support of merchants and the state would have ended in nothing. in general, another article for the number of bukoff. maybe enough already to post this on the site? or problems with the material?
  35. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 April 1 2018 18: 00
    +1
    in a beautiful sauce they’re boiling up a new people, Ukrainians of Ukrainians, there have never been a Ukrainian people like the Cossack, but now they are fighting ... in the Donbas, they want to chop off the Kuban and the Don from Russia, in the future