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Shoigu urged military and civilian scientists to unite to work on artificial intelligence

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The head of the Russian Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu called on Russian military and civilian scientists to unite to develop artificial intelligence, stressing that it is necessary to repel possible threats in the field of technological and economic security of Russia.


The corresponding appeal is contained in the welcoming speech of Shoigu sent to the participants of the first conference “Artificial Intelligence: Problems and Solutions”.

Shoigu urged military and civilian scientists to unite to work on artificial intelligence


The conference was organized at the site of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the initiative of the Russian Academy of Sciences with the assistance of the Ministry of Education and Science.

It is noted that during the conference civil and military scientists will develop proposals for organizing the joint work of the scientific community, the state and industrial enterprises to increase the defense capability of the Russian Federation. This in turn will allow creating optimal conditions for the development and application of new technologies with artificial intelligence, robotics, unmanned systems and complexes.

Together with highly qualified specialists and scientists, talented Russian youth will take part in this work, including scientists working within the framework of the Military Innovation Technopolis "ERA".
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  1. high
    high 14 March 2018 15: 59
    +3
    FSB and Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation acquire equipment of an Israeli company that helped the FBI[i] [/ i]

    The regional departments of the FSB of Russia, the Investigative Committee and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation acquire UFED computer programs and equipment from the Israeli company Cellebrite. This was reported by the BBC, citing data from the public procurement website.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 14 March 2018 16: 09
      +3
      Well yes. You can’t keep track of everything. Need an artificial assistant. There is more trust in him. No kickbacks to you, no bribes. winked
      Meanwhile, in London they found strangled Berezovsky’s friend - Glushkov. But there were no scarves.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 14 March 2018 16: 16
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        in London they found a strangled friend of Berezovsky - Glushkov.

        May will say that Russia did not have a “newbie” for him ...
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 14 March 2018 16: 17
          +1
          May is in complete prostration. She hit in full. winked
          1. taiga2018
            taiga2018 14 March 2018 16: 19
            +7
            Quote: siberalt
            May in general in full prostration

            I generally get the impression that she is the very "famous cook" who decided to rule the state ...
            1. For example
              For example 14 March 2018 16: 23
              +8
              Quote: taiga2018
              she is the same "famous cook" who decided to rule the state ...

              She must not be allowed into the kitchen. This mouse does not know how to cook. They can only eat, but they themselves can only create shit. Which we are observing.
          2. Dashout
            Dashout 14 March 2018 17: 40
            +3
            Quote: siberalt
            May is in complete prostration. She hit in full.

            It seems to me that Trump did not agree on a certain chosen program. She agreed with Tylermon, and he was fired (suddenly)! Trump said yesterday that he would study the facts after talking with May in the evening. Apparently, Trump did not agree with the boddy that they started with Tylermon
          3. jovanni
            jovanni 14 March 2018 18: 14
            0
            Quote: siberalt
            May is in complete prostration. She hit in full.

            She didn’t get anywhere. She was there ...
      2. okko077
        okko077 14 March 2018 17: 29
        0
        Shoigu urged military and civilian scientists to unite to work on artificial intelligence
        Why not fly to Mars?
        Our army is blind и deaf , we do not have modern target designation systems, information reconnaissance and information gathering ... Without them, new weapons systems cannot work effectively, without them a modern war cannot be waged ... And these nonsense come up with a new toy ....
        1. melelele
          melelele 14 March 2018 17: 59
          +4
          Where already there is the Ministry of Defense, Shoigu and the rest, here on the KOKO007 forum, the most intelligent, in his prez ...
          1. okko077
            okko077 14 March 2018 18: 04
            0
            Thank you, very convincing argumentation of a smart person!
            1. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 14 March 2018 19: 40
              +2
              In general, the most informed guys from the deaf Baltic farms, or kryzhopyly, that Svidomo thorns ... They always know everything .. Because in Ukraine there is such a wise power!
      3. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 14 March 2018 17: 37
        +1
        Meanwhile, in London they found...
        As the saying goes: "the places there are ruinous, to catch there not a fig ..."
      4. iouris
        iouris 14 March 2018 23: 58
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Need an artificial assistant. There is more trust in him. No kickbacks to you, no bribes.

        Do not say, AI will open new horizons for ideological fighters for banknotes.
    2. Nasrat
      Nasrat 14 March 2018 16: 36
      0
      Quote: alta
      FSB and Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation acquire equipment of an Israeli company that helped the FBI[i] [/ i]


      Hint that Russian specialists will study the program and open FBI computers ??
      1. Alexey Sommer
        Alexey Sommer 14 March 2018 17: 10
        +2
        The whole branch is a dull offtopic!
    3. Artek
      Artek 15 March 2018 15: 31
      0
      can this be said the priority task for the army and navy, but will they give money for this task or from internal reserves?
  2. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 14 March 2018 16: 09
    0
    Didn’t look at the terminator? yes
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 March 2018 16: 39
      0
      This becomes an urgent necessity. For we can lag behind. Quite.
      Quote: Archivist Vasya
      Didn’t look at the terminator? yes
  3. flicker
    flicker 14 March 2018 16: 14
    +1
    work on artificial intelligence
    Well, that's just an interesting topic ... not to mention how much AI is necessary and relevant in almost all areas of human life.
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 14 March 2018 16: 34
      0
      Artificial intelligence is we humanity and what have we given to the Creator?
      1. flicker
        flicker 14 March 2018 17: 11
        +2
        And who is our Creator?
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 14 March 2018 17: 22
          +7
          My creator personally left me a middle name, raised, educated and helped with education. Now he lives and lives relatively well - as much as possible in 90 with a ponytail. Praise the creator!
        2. ML-334
          ML-334 14 March 2018 22: 41
          0
          The question is very interesting, it seems that even our curators from the Council do not know, those who have the opportunity to correct our fate, there are examples of the recovery of a seemingly incurable disease and vice versa a "birth curse." I am inclined to think that the Creator-Mind because the Bible created by rational in its likeness. Something like Cheops’s pyramid, whether it’s moving from another World or those who were driven through Darwin through the pyramid and were introduced by Reason. These are just my thoughts.
          1. flicker
            flicker 15 March 2018 09: 08
            +1
            I don’t know, I think that if there were such a Creator, then there would be a lot of questions to him.
            1. ML-334
              ML-334 15 March 2018 09: 19
              0
              To the extent that God the Creator in us, ask yourself questions and honestly answer, it will be very difficult. It is almost impossible to live according to the Commandments - there are many temptations to violate them and we are breaking them.
              1. flicker
                flicker 15 March 2018 10: 50
                +1
                ask yourself questions and honestly answer
                only this remains smile , it’s true that “Creator God”, which in us, does not know much more than us. what but handling in this way is useful ... in philosophy and psychology this is called reflection.
                Z.Y. If you can teach the AI ​​to reflect, then the quality of the AI ​​will increase significantly.
    2. okko077
      okko077 14 March 2018 17: 16
      0
      AI is important, but for any system, information is important for making decisions at the entrance ... We have a deep crisis in the creation of information systems, and the army is just a disaster! What data will this AI operate on? Why do we not have conferences on information systems in the army, this question, which can not even be posed? In the system of priorities, it goes much earlier, or rather, is it the first? !! What happens, is the topic forgotten, or prohibited? Not a hint, not a grain of attention - a black hole ....
  4. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 14 March 2018 16: 18
    +2
    that's how skynet began
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 14 March 2018 16: 34
      0
      In the film, he has been raging for more than 20 years
      1. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 16 March 2018 10: 48
        0
        yes there is fiction on the topic of Russian AI))) predictors x ... s
  5. Falcond
    Falcond 14 March 2018 16: 41
    0
    We need to attract personnel for such a thing for a lot of money .. for example, large companies such as Google or Yandex ... you can’t get rid of scientific companies ... even if we assume that they really recruit sensible fighters, and not sons, whose parents shelter them from real service!
  6. Bypassed
    Bypassed 14 March 2018 16: 46
    +2
    Why the so-called AI will not soon catch up with the human brain, which operates on completely different signal processing principles, is well described by S. Savelyev (RF). In nature, initially there is no concept of 0 - 1, there is no concept of a point, a straight line, a plane. He (the brain) does not operate with these concepts, but at the same time up to 500 signals differing from each other can be passed through an axon.
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 14 March 2018 17: 18
      +1
      And he does not need to be compared with the human. A crane is much less dexterous than a gymnast - but it does not remove the need for cranes.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 March 2018 18: 53
      +4
      "In nature, initially there is no concept 0 - 1," ///

      Of course there is. When a neuron is active, it passes “one” to the synapse (junction), when it is passive,
      transmits a "zero". The brain is a computer.
      1. Bypassed
        Bypassed 14 March 2018 19: 40
        +1
        A neuron is not active. Inactive neuron - dead neuron. Read the textbooks.
        in addition, the brain can rebuild its neural network depending on the complexity of the task or vary the number of areas occupied by solving the problem
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 March 2018 19: 46
          0
          In any case, the brain is just a very complex computer. And nothing more.
          With flexible restructuring of the hardware and all sorts of evolutionary hedges / bells and whistles.
          But any signals can always be divided into “sub” signals. And again on the sub-signals.
          To 1-0. And present in the form of a network of points and lines.
          1. Ace Tambourine
            Ace Tambourine 14 March 2018 20: 00
            0
            Yah...?
            "and when asked, answer yes, yes, yes, or no, no, no, for all that is above all from the Evil .."
            That’s the whole dual logic imposed on us.
            And the human brain is far from a computer. This is a super system, only we savages cannot learn how to use it.
            Well, to create an AI, which I explain and warn once, is to create problems on your seat.
            One super duper sage has already created ...
            Yes, only this AI got drunk of apples and sent the creator to his mother. Okay, not yet the UG. Andoshil ...
            And created by man will be much trickier and smarter, and will not make mistakes homo sapiens.
          2. Bypassed
            Bypassed 14 March 2018 21: 48
            +1
            Type in a search engine: Savelyev S.V. Brain blow. Artificial Intelligence
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 15 March 2018 14: 19
              0
              Lord, I looked.
              And this one ... negative - Your authority?
              1. Ace Tambourine
                Ace Tambourine 15 March 2018 15: 42
                0
                And I looked ...
                But he dug up a less rational grain.
                In essence, we ourselves are biorobots. With a dual system of actions and decisions.
                In fact, of course, there are a lot more options for actions, but who will choose what.
                Take, for example, the situation when RUSSIAN (I emphasize) commits a reprehensible act for which he faces death.
                What should he do?
                1. To realize and humbly bear the punishment.
                2. Hit the run.
                Missed nothing?
                Yes, only he instead of these 2 options will go to the pub and get drunk .. (sarcasm, if Che), and the next morning he will come to repent ...
                Where is the logic ?
                And you are all talking about multi-level logic, and in general God knows what.
                I will give you another example. All have heard of the 10 commandments.
                So I have a question for Warrior Wow; Here, honestly, admit that you violated at least 3 of these commandments and more than once.
                Or do you pretend to be Jehovah or Jesus?
                So I mean, if we, with a clear conscience, circumvent the laws prescribed for Us, then what does it cost a machine that does not have feelings and Conscience?
                1. demo
                  demo 15 March 2018 22: 09
                  +1
                  It refers to the human race - to compromise with conscience.
                  With a program and a ban, the machine cannot cross it.
                  This is not the person who said that tomorrow I quit drinking, pouring a second bottle into myself. At the same time, he forgot that he spoke exactly the same yesterday.
          3. flicker
            flicker 15 March 2018 14: 12
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            In any case, the brain is just a very complex computer. And nothing more

            Rather, a computer - well, a very very simplified brain.
        2. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 14 March 2018 20: 23
          0
          So I'm talking about it ...
          What is the difference between an automaton (robot) and an AI?
          The fact that the robot is a closed system, obeying software commands and laws.
          And AI is an Open system, in which its creator cannot put commands, laws and algorithms, because again it will turn out to be a robot.
          Now think ... Do you need it, your uncontrollable intelligence? There is no there with their little ones, but you eat brown substance. And with this child prodigy how will you coexist? Walking in diapers or immediately running to the cemetery?
    3. flicker
      flicker 15 March 2018 14: 09
      +1
      Quote: PASSED BY
      In nature, initially there is no concept 0 - 1

      There is a choice in nature. And 0 - 1 is a simplified model of choice.
      1. Ace Tambourine
        Ace Tambourine 15 March 2018 16: 15
        0
        in Nature there is little choice ... Either you eat, or you .. Either safely run away from this until the next time.
  7. astepanov
    astepanov 14 March 2018 17: 16
    +5
    Why not work on natural intelligence first? The level of university training fell below the plinth.
    1. Vladimir_R
      Vladimir_R 14 March 2018 23: 50
      0
      You can’t say more precisely! The comment is just a bullseye.
      The level of education is terrifying. The level of teaching staff is below any criticism.
      I had a chance to talk with schoolchildren and students - you can't even call it depressing. And parents who invest relatively significant personal savings in the education of their children prepare them for study / work abroad, and not otherwise.
  8. Sverdlov
    Sverdlov 14 March 2018 17: 31
    +3
    When our brains are not enough, we begin to rely on AI.
    And behind the hill for a long time primitive Exel, Timeline were used. Now it is the most powerful planning and programming system. And the iPhone and its team still rely on the invisible hand of the market. Does not understand even 1/1000 of the capabilities of the machine that he holds in his hands.
    He was engaged in scheduler programs - production optimizers. This is AI. So what? The manufacturers and bosses, in the first place, laid it all. And the warriors will do the same. Urya, to the attack !!!
    We need educated tech-managers who are able to understand this AI. And at the manager level with the exam no AI will help. He will not think for us.
  9. tank64rus
    tank64rus 14 March 2018 18: 22
    0
    To do this, it would be necessary for our scientists to be engaged in science, and not in poverty. Interestingly, he sold in the Duma the abolition of the previous salary tariff schedule and gave all the money to “effective managers” from science. It turns out the leadership and friends of their girlfriends and so on. they do not live in poverty, and scientists are again driven into poverty. They also require publication in foreign journals for which the scientist must pay the same thing from his own pocket for inventions or simply give them to the institution. The fact that young people are disfiguring the USE and others has long been known to everyone. As well as the fact that the teachers turned into officials and fill out a bunch of different papers and reports instead of their work .. That in the Ministry of Education the bulk of the people have never taught where, where else they know firsthand about science. All this must be changed, otherwise Russia cannot survive.
  10. In100gram
    In100gram 14 March 2018 20: 42
    +1
    I think a couple of scientific companies will do more than the whole "acamedia" of sciences. Under the right guidance, as in "sharashka". But one should not forget about talents from a citizen. Beria needs a new one. He led the creation of nuclear weapons of the USSR. And everything became good. We still use that reserve. Although a new one also appeared
    1. Mussasi
      Mussasi 15 March 2018 05: 37
      +1
      You offer slavery, and only free people can not create slaves!
      1. demo
        demo 15 March 2018 22: 13
        +1
        There is no free man and cannot be, in principle.
        Everyone yes depends on something. In more or less degree. Maybe Diogenes sitting in a barrel did not depend on anyone. Although not. From the weather and durability of the barrel.
        And about the water supply system, "still worked by the slaves of Rome," have you heard?
  11. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 14 March 2018 21: 24
    0
    Quote: melelele
    Where already there is the Ministry of Defense, Shoigu and the rest, here on the KOKO007 forum, the most intelligent, in his prez ...


    He just in the shaggy years saw the army the last time, and then on television. I suppose that they offended him by expelling him from the relevant department, that he’s still upset. Everyone grinds about his network-centric networks. He doesn’t know that drones have been flying for a long time, and for hundreds of kilometers in real life they give information. In his opinion, calibers for 2000 km are carried to the point of falling on hands and it’s impossible to control drones in our country from a distance of more than 50 km. I’ll reveal a terrible military secret. From one airport, drones take off and patrol one the border with the notorious country, the distance to the border is about 250 km, and they not only fly and return, but also transmit a picture in real time. Also, periodically, as part of the exercises, they conduct guidance of the Iskander OTRK, a couple of hundred kilometers from its location. In principle, it’s not even a military secret, everything is regularly covered in the press, but it’s just that he’s better seen from the sofa than I say, who is directly in the center of events.
  12. earloop
    earloop 14 March 2018 22: 01
    0
    The creation of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the resuscitation of the Ministry of Defense, create hope that the work that has been started will be successfully completed. This is not scandalous, in which: "confused, there with the X, confused in the zeros," but with the development of the budget, everything is fine! "Gamma radiation can hold back a day!"
  13. sabotage
    sabotage 14 March 2018 22: 26
    0
    I trudge, dear edition! He is calling! Unite! He didn’t organize, didn’t even allocate funds, but called, as if he had no other resources to solve this problem ... Something tells me that he needs artificial intelligence in view of the terrible limitation of his own.
  14. Palagecha
    Palagecha 14 March 2018 22: 51
    0
    "This is" zhzhzhzhzhzhzhzh-not without reason "- as Winnie-the-Pooh said. After Putin leaves, we will be ruled by artificial intelligence!
    1. I am
      I am 15 March 2018 07: 46
      0
      President EDEM is back ?????????? oooooooooooooo ...
      You can create, the question is different. what for ??? The Russian Federation has heaps of other problems, why come up with an expensive toy, in which case it can be neutralized by cutting the power cable?
      1. komis55
        komis55 April 12 2018 11: 43
        0
        the wisdom of fiction is more expensive than spending
  15. iouris
    iouris 15 March 2018 00: 02
    0
    Too late to unite. For a long time already everything controls AI, therefore such results.
  16. Vladimir_R
    Vladimir_R 15 March 2018 00: 23
    0
    Quote: In100gram
    I think a couple of scientific companies will do more than the whole "acamedia" of sciences. Under the right guidance, as in "sharashka". But one should not forget about talents from a citizen. Beria needs a new one. He led the creation of nuclear weapons of the USSR. And everything became good. We still use that reserve. Although a new one also appeared


    I think this approach is fundamentally wrong. I will have the courage to recommend Robert Jung’s book “Brighter Thousands of Suns” for reading, this is about people who invented nuclear weapons. The USSR stole the secret of nuclear weapons, thanks to Klaus Fuchs. Yes, stealing the secret of such an invention is very difficult, it deserves a kind of respect, but the “parents” of this invention are people who are passionate about their idea. Like, in fact, many others. It is much more effective to give people work, to create comfortable conditions for them. On the side of my opinion is world history: antibiotics, vaccines, drugs, nuclear weapons, bulletproof vests, aircraft, the screen from which you read this comment, the machine on which you will go to work tomorrow, the phone from which you will call your loved ones, even the ballpoint pen which check the next ballot. All these inventions became possible due to the conditions created by the inventors, and not fear.
    1. Sverdlov
      Sverdlov 15 March 2018 07: 58
      +1
      Well, they created the atomic bomb with a fright so that the Germans did not have time. And Los Alamos was still that “sharashka” like a concentration camp.
      And who stole a club from someone is also a question.
      “When it became known that the French city of Hehingen was about to take over, at the request of Boris Pasha, American troops changed the direction of the offensive and were the first to enter the city. Thanks to this maneuver, they managed to remove a large German nuclear laboratory from the city and transport the outstanding German Physics of Max von Laue. "
      1. Vladimir_R
        Vladimir_R 16 March 2018 00: 35
        0
        You definitely haven't read Jung. Correct this misunderstanding. Watch the movie "Trinity and Beyond" (available in the u-tube with the Russian translation).

        You can’t invent this with a fright, Los Alamos was not a concentration camp (you, apparently, do not fully understand what a concentration camp is, a place where people were destroyed under inhuman conditions, including our compatriots). Read, I sincerely hope that you will be impressed by how the Germans worried about their "repressed" colleagues - the Jews, and, under pain of being in the camps themselves, tried to protect them. How they tried to prevent the emergence of this terrible weapon from the Nazis. How they risked their lives. How the Soviets recruited inventors, how Rosenford related to socialism. This is our story, forgetting it, you risk repeating it.
        And listen to the music for the film I mentioned, this is a symphony orchestra of our country with you.
  17. komis55
    komis55 15 March 2018 05: 29
    0
    I’m from 12 years old, I have to put in knowledge, and now, well then, but I don’t need this, I need more: ™ Lizenziya O.P. in all languages ​​in which it is possible to prove limit theorems. machine ones too (well, first let’s say fish language, bird’s ..., put it in the pocket of the 3D language model, only then it will come out: The first robot law. The robot is God's creation, its a man created, and then the coding methods and rules. M is not really cool it’s not required, ideally, you need to compare the course with history, who wants to get to the North Star?
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 15 March 2018 16: 21
      0
      No way Gridasov outlined ...
      1. komis55
        komis55 April 12 2018 11: 47
        0
        Cryptocurrency
  18. Antonio_Mariarti
    Antonio_Mariarti 15 March 2018 12: 47
    0
    To create artificial intelligence that really has consciousness, and does not follow any algorithm, you first need to uncover the secret of our brain, but as I know, everything is very, very, very much solved there. So sho ...
  19. komis55
    komis55 28 March 2018 18: 30
    0
    ™ notarized translation of an open source license in all languages ​​in which it is possible to prove limit theorems + machine = 3D language model, and then secrets.