US Navy held exercises in the Arctic

Two US nuclear submarines have worked the ascent from under the ice on the exercises in the Arctic ICEX-2018, writes "RIA News"with reference to the website of the country's naval forces.

Exercises are held in the Beaufort Sea. The submarine of Great Britain also takes part in them. The Hartford multi-purpose submarine (Seawolf project) and Connecticut impact submarine (Los Angeles project), armed with cruise missiles, conducted an ascent in the Arctic Circle north of Alaska.

Details of the exercises are not given, but the message has a photo in which cuttings of submarines stick out from under the thickness of the ice at a distance of several hundred meters from each other.

We must constantly train with our submarine units and partners to remain experienced in this hemisphere. The presence of both submarines on the surface is a clear demonstration of our skills in the Arctic

- said the commander of the center of submarine warfare, the US Navy Rear Admiral James Pitts.

Earlier it was reported that during the exercises, two American submarines and the British "Trenchant" will conduct arctic transitions, ascent to the North Pole, and collect scientific data.

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[Spartanez300]

Amerikosy can bungle any picture, even the one that they landed on Mars. As they have not yet shown that they crawled out from under the ground .

[amirbek]

Quote: Spartanez300

even such that they landed on

ice is not thick football you will not play

[dik-nsk]

The presence of both submarines on the surface is a clear demonstration of our skill

what is the skill? ice 40 centimeters, maybe it is generally in the Hudson?)))

[DEDPIHTO]

[quote = dik-nsk] [/ quote]
So let them sit there, wait until the ice melts. Probably surfaced in the wake of the caravan, on beaten ice ....

[Brylevsky]

What caravan can go to the Beaufort Sea? You at least look at the globe first ... A relatively thin ice, or rather wormwood, is sought by the echo-meter.

[Shurik70]

That is yes. In vain they smear. A very alarming signal, before we only did this.
However, sooner or later they would inevitably come to this. But we still haven’t thrown something into the American analogue of SOSUS in the North Sea. Now you have to hurry.

[Bulrumeb]

40 centimeters ice, maybe it’s generally in the Hudson

Yes, and only cuttings stick out

[mishaia_23]

Ascent in the area of ​​the Arctic Circle north of Alaska was carried out by a multi-purpose submarine "Hartford" (project "Seawolf") and an attack submarine "Connecticut" (project "Los Angeles"), which are armed with cruise missiles ...
Surfaced beautifully, but from this position to carry out firing cruise missiles ... impossiblebecause torpedo tubes and vertical shafts are under the miracle of ice breaking through the cabin of a submarine ...
Because Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles (up to 50 missiles) are launched only through 8 torpedo tubes (Seawolf project); 12 vertical mines and 4 torpedo tubes (up to 20 missiles) (project "Los Angeles").

[Prisoner]

They will shoot from personal weapons ... at the bears. Are there bears there?

[CHARM]

Quote: Amirbek

ice is not thick football you will not play

But for the public and taxpayers will do. People picks. No one will pick there how thick the ice is and where this photo came from and at what latitudes it surfaced.

[You Vlad]

Quote: Spartanez300

Amerikosy can bungle any picture, even the one that they landed on Mars.

It is not visible in the photo, but we are already there, in camouflage!

[210ox]

No, why. And they and we floated out from under the ice. That's just two nearby, I didn’t see it. And yet. The Beaufort Sea is north of Alaska ... Yes, for God's sake swim, only away from us ..

Quote: Spartanez300

Amerikosy can bungle any picture, even the one that they landed on Mars. As they have not yet shown that they crawled out from under the ground .

[forester]

Of course let them SWIM. According to the Mooreans - shit floats, and the sailors WALK !!!!))))

[siberalt]

And what's so surprising about that. With such a thickness of ice, not every of our anglers go fishing for fish.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

ours are also swimming there ...

[jjj]

But how did the adversary’s boats not collide, maneuvering so close to each other?

[Brylevsky]

The navigator is good. And sonar equipment, which we can only envy.

[amirbek]

on the first periscope jammed ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: Amirbek

the periscope is jammed ...

yes yes, cool!
There is an antenna on the second, but on the first it stuck !!!! :))))))))

[210ox]

That’s the whole point of who surfaced before. The distance from the photo is earlier. When surfaced under similar conditions, all the retractable devices are in the lower retracted position.

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Amirbek

the periscope is jammed ...

yes yes, cool!
There is an antenna on the second, but on the first it stuck !!!! :))))))))

[amirbek]

Quote: 210ox

When surfacing in such conditions, all the retractable devices are in the lower retracted position

well then the hatch jammed

[Svarog51]

well then the hatch jammed

Yes, they are waiting for when an emergency lot with crowbars approaches from another boat and removes the ice block from the cabin. Otherwise, do not get out

[Mountain shooter]

Exercise more carefully, waterfowl. Just don’t break your head

[Vadim851]

Judging by the debris in the photo, the ice thickness is not too large. For a solid case, this is nonsense, so there is no super achievement here, ordinary maneuvers.

[amirbek]

Quote: Vadim851

The thickness of the ice judging by the debris in the photo is not too large

therefore, they did not begin to venture onto the ice

[Vadim851]

Well, you never know, everything can be

[ankir13]

and before the cabin the shadow looms, apparently from the cameraman, the sun closes, some layman, it would be better, in fact, to shake off the ice from above ...
The boat is clogged, shooting in this position is only suicide, and photojournalists take pictures ...

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Vadim851

Judging by the debris in the photo, the ice thickness is not too large. For a solid case, this is nonsense, so there is no super achievement here, ordinary maneuvers.

Yeah! By the same principle, a port tug can be used to chip the ice around ships into the Arctic class.

[annodomene]

For a PC, such an ice thickness is really bullshit. Only around him there are a lot of light (permeable) structures. And here the situation is worse. Although with such a thickness, you can do without support ...

[rotmistr60]

We must constantly train

We realized that. Ours have worked for a long time in 1963 and at the North Pole.

[Brylevsky]

Yes, only the Americans were the first to reach the North Pole in a submerged position on a nuclear submarine ... It was Nautilus, 1958 ...

[rotmistr60]

They were the "first" on the moon. Ours at 63 surfaced and showed the whole world what and where the Americans were doing underwater in question. And if they did, does it change something?

[Brylevsky]

This shows the level of technical development of the nation. I am simply stating a fact. In some ways, we are significantly ahead of the Americans, but at sea we are behind them: in quantity and quality. Alas.

[annodomene]

Well, if you wish, you can send to Jupiter. But why? And the states are not able to use weapons in high latitudes. Unlike us.

[prorab_ak]

Do they seem to do this for the first time?
And I don’t remember something about the double ascent of our boats .... well, yes it’s all

[not main]

Quote: prorab_ak

Do they seem to do this for the first time?
And I don’t remember something about the double ascent of our boats .... well, yes it’s all

And the meaning of this "pair" ascent? Or do Americans admit that one boat has no chance of hitting targets on the territory of the Russian Federation?

[annodomene]

And nobody will tell you about this. But ... It was, it was. The truth is not at the pistol distance.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: rotmistr60

We realized that. Ours have worked for a long time in 1963 and at the North Pole.

The other is excusable, but you were kind of a leader on an all-Union scale, and there ...

On August 3 1958 of the year, the Nautilus nuclear submarine (USA) became the first ship to reach the North Pole (underwater). Another American nuclear submarine, the Skate, surfaced at the pole of 17 on March 1959 of the year, becoming the first ship on the surface of the water at the North Pole. 17 July 1962 year, the Soviet nuclear submarine Leninsky Komsomol became the first Soviet submarine to reach the North Pole.

Facts are a stubborn thing ...
But no one disputes the championship of NK on the “cap”.

On 17 of August 1977 of the year, the Soviet atomic icebreaker "Arctic" for the first time in the history of navigation reached the North Pole in surface swimming.

Somehow, however.

[Firework]

the flight time of ballistic missiles from American nuclear submarines near the borders of Russia is about 10 minutes, not much time remains to report to the supreme commander in chief if it is night and he sleeps.

[Archivist Vasya]

Nothing special, although it looks funny)

[Elizar Zadunaysky]

if ascent is an achievement for s then it only speaks of their inferiority for us

[Brylevsky]

Quote: dik-nsk

what is the skill?

In the distance between boats while sailing under the ice. In the picture between them there are no more than 2 cable ... For some, this figure will not say anything, for the sailor it will say a lot ... you still need to add the relative position of the boats. Let's just say that the navigator is very good there.

[Mih1974]

And it would be just for such an ascent - he then unscrewed the Bosko navigators .That would take this photo and "finish" the location of the buildings and see how they risked. And I suspect that the collision of two submarines under an ice field is more than not a gift. Well, if one torpedo bay bends (if it doesn’t smell), then the second can bend the screws - and then what? HOW would they pull her out of there, that they would beg to bow to the terrible Putin to beg to send our icebreaker?

[annodomene]

Exactly, the photo somehow looks implausible. Even to discard the possibility of damage to the extremities - all the same, there remains the possibility of damage to the buildings.

[annodomene]

But nothing, that such a distance is critical? 2 kbt is 370,4 m with a body length along the terminal extremities of 140 meters. Plus a very strong limitation on maneuver in two planes.

[watchmaker]

surfaced? Great !!!! So, what is next?

[Palagecha]

The Americans are real professionals and those who don’t notice this type are simply stupid.

[annodomene]

And what is professionalism in this photo? To speed up the OP in the ice, and then heroically try to dive without a move? M-yes, with ballast, you can sort out, although the depth under the keel allows. No, it's some kind of madhouse.

[Grits]

It is not clear why they do not completely pop up? ours always pop up completely. And then the sailors run around the rocket deck and the ice floes are dropped from the covers of the mines. It’s also a kind of training.
But the skill of the Americans can be envied - knowing the decent length of their submarines, it can be estimated that Los Angeles almost ran into the screws of Sivulf.

[annodomene]

Ours also do not completely pop up. Positional position is not above water. Usually enough 1 ... 2 GBS to emerge in the wormwood.

[thinker]

There is still a photo, frostbitten frost, or a mask like that.

http://navylive.dodlive.mil/2018/03/08/icex2018/

[Old26]

Quote: Amirbek

therefore, they did not begin to venture onto the ice

Yeah. And the camera itself ran out onto the ice and photographed both boats ...

Quote: rotmistr60

We must constantly train

We realized that. Ours have worked for a long time in 1963 and at the North Pole.

This is not the first time they have been doing this either. But when did our boats float in the north for the last time ???

[Yura Ehlakov]

I didn’t understand what they were doing there, or didn’t I understand something?

[Yura Ehlakov]

Who will say what it was?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Yura Ekhlakov

Who will say what it was?

Group trip. Working out joint swimming in difficult navigational constraints. By the way, the second unit was on KU-140 * l / b leader. Therefore, the Elk could not "rest on the screws" Wolf. And the Wolf (like Virginia) was specially built for ice hunting. By the way, part of the Elk is also equipped for Arctic missions. The Yankees know that our SSBNs from under the ice can greatly upset their States, and so they are preparing for an ice war. We, too...

[barbiturate]

The Americans are training, well done, and ours must keep up, although with such a difference in financing and economics ... By the way, the article is confused, Hartford is the 688 project (Los Angeles), and Connecticut is the Sivulf project.

[annodomene]

Most likely this is a fake:
1. Being under water at such a distance from each other (and at the same level of depths !!!) is fraught with consequences for life.
2. The ice is very thin for the Arctic at such a time
3. Surfacing with ice breaking (and not in wormwood) without a good reason (usually emergency) is the height of the staff’s “fantasy”.

[pafegosoff]

Let them try to get out in the Kara Sea ...

[annodomene]

Breaking with pack ice ....

[Brylevsky]

Quote: annodomene

But nothing, that such a distance is critical?

This, in fact, is mastery. You can joke over "dumb Americans" as much as you like, but sometimes these dumb ones do very smart things. So smart that we have something to learn from them. Submarine fleet accidents, for example.