National Interest refused to recognize the "Dagger" hypersonic weapon

The new Russian airballistic missile of low radar visibility and high maneuverability “Dagger” cannot be considered hypersonic weaponsleads Lenta.ru report opinion of experts of The National Interest.

According to the authors of the publication, “Dagger” cannot be considered “a cruise missile operating on the basis of a hypersonic ramjet engine”, respectively, “it cannot be called a hypersonic weapon, despite the fact that during flight ballistic missiles are accelerated to hypersonic speeds”.

At the same time, the magazine notes that today “except for Russia, no one in the world has aeroballistic missiles” For this reason, the authors believe, the "Dagger" has no analogues in other countries.

Recall aviation the “Dagger” missile system was first introduced by Russian President Vladimir Putin in March 2018. According to reports, the “Dagger” is a “modernized version of the quasi-ballistic single-stage guided solid-fuel rocket 9M723 of the Iskander complex, the carrier of which is the MiG-31 long-range all-weather supersonic fighter-interceptor."

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[Irek]

And it’s violet for us that you think and think there ...

[Crowe]

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?
Maybe she feels not hypersonic? - Tolerantly.

[Thrall]

Damn, what do we do now?

[Crowe]

Do you want Belarusians? - enjoy the latest developments of the Russian Federation!

[cniza]

According to the authors of the publication, “Dagger” cannot be considered “a cruise missile operating on the basis of a hypersonic ramjet engine”, respectively, “it cannot be called a hypersonic weapon, despite the fact that during flight ballistic missiles are accelerated to hypersonic speeds”.

Even English scientists were envious of this conclusion.

[AnpeL]

you don’t understand anything. it’s just a translation difficulty. the literal translation looks like "We do not believe our eyes"

[Thrall]

Quote: Crowe

Do you want Belarusians? - enjoy the latest developments of the Russian Federation!

Any problems with the Belarusians?

[Red_Hamer]

Any problems with the Belarusians?

There are problems with cockroaches, they live, they also whisper in the ear, and sometimes they smoke there!

[bulvas]

National Interest refused to recognize the "Dagger" hypersonic weapon

So, we are sure that they will not use Dagger on them
What difference does it make?

If the dagger cannot be intercepted and it successfully sticks where it should be, even if they call it subsonic

Just for what reason it will not be used? Ours can not be solved, or the Americans will not be substituted?

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Quote: Thrall

Quote: Crowe

Do you want Belarusians? - enjoy the latest developments of the Russian Federation!

Any problems with the Belarusians?

Never mind,
At best, Crowe blurted out without thinking, worse if for a specific purpose, but in this case, few would support him

[Crowe]

Quote: Thrall

Any problems with the Belarusians?

Same as Sherkhan and Tobacco.
No need to speak on our behalf. Do not want a single state, then stand on the sidelines. We are "north" - without you.

[askme]

Well, to tell the truth, the Old Man organized everything there. On the other hand, Belarusians do nothing against the Russian Federation. Russians are not oppressed. So as a wish you should not react so violently)

[Crowe]

Quote: askme

Russians are not oppressed

Russian? And who are the Belarusians? Aren't the Russians?
This is the problem: they found a self-identity based on a language that is only an offshoot of Russian. We have such branches - a dime a dozen. Paul Russia speaks on “surzhik”, especially in villages.
When they return to the roots, cling to Russia, then the problems will disappear. Will become "netbooks" - they will become a part of "Sherkhan" Maybe even fangs. And while there are no fangs, we will use the "steel tooth" - the "Dagger" is called.

[AnpeL]

In October last year, he traveled by car to Belarus, to Grodno. Almost reached the Polish border. The goal was to see the castles that are there as museums (Lida, Mir, Nesvizh, Novogrudok, Grodno and others). In general, we can say that none of the Belarusians have ever said a bad word to us. In my opinion, wonderful people. I heard Belarusian speech only on TV, on some specific channels. And so in everyday life, apparently, only in Russian. Here in the museums themselves sometimes there is an incomprehensible type of picture or diagram of some reflection of the Belarusian militias in the Polish (or Lithuanian or some other) army from the attack of the Russian imperial army !! Why did you even need to imagine it and what to say ... is not very clear ((
And so the Belarusians, in my opinion, are very good towards Russians, read even in the west.

[Observer2014]

Thrall

Any problems with the Belarusians?

[Dashout]

Quote: cniza

Even English scientists were envious of this conclusion.

Absolutely a bullseye! Learned ..

[Dashout]

In essence: there is a technological challenge - to provide controlled flight at supersonic. This is the final beneficial effect!
According to the "exceptional" solution to this problem can be provided by a hypersonic ramjet engine (function).
Our guys proposed an innovative solution, with a different function: The beneficial effect is provided by the “Dagger” aviation missile system.
The final beneficial effect is obtained! What's wrong?
Once again they wiped their nose "exceptional", showed how to solve technological problems!

[x.andvlad]

National Interest refused to recognize the "Dagger" hypersonic weapon
Yes, it's all from their nerves ...

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: x.andvlad

National Interest refused to recognize the "Dagger" hypersonic weapon
Yes, it's all from their nerves ...

Oh no! It’s just that NI “NATO grandmothers” said that only cruise missiles (CR) with “hypersonic” ramjets can be counted as “hypersonic weapons” ... grandmothers forgot (age!) About hypersonic anti-aircraft missiles (kinetic) being developed in the same Merika with solid propellant rocket engines ... hypersonic "artillery shells" without engines for railguns ... interceptor missiles for missile defense ... In Russia, C-500 will use hypersonic 77H6 with solid rocket engines.

[sogdy]

As if not quite so. It is necessary to remove the resistance, the sphere, and the jet stream cannot be slower than the flight speed in the medium ...
Something NI is not friends with physics.

[x.andvlad]

And the "British scientists" have long been causing laughter.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Crowe

... to you - Belarusians? - enjoy the latest developments of the Russian Federation! ...

And we with Belarusians, not a single state?
What is this speech for?
The “dagger” will cover both us and the Belarusians from threats.

[askme]

I support) Belarusians are the closest of the neighbors.

[DOC]

Belarus is an independent state in Eastern Europe with its beloved president. A close neighbor and everything like Kazakhstan itself, etc. There are no questions, but still .. first of all, we need to think about the Russian Federation and the development of “Daggers” and all the more so, we invest in their production directly, as citizens of the Russian Federation. Therefore, a close "neighbor" is not a problem, at least to take the MZKT plant .. I think I will protect myself, or welcome to the Russian Federation for a single state.

[RECORHE]

You better think what you write.

[Vadim237]

Wait for the construction of a new nuclear power plant.

[210ox]

Yes, nothing .. Well, there is a ramjet engine .. But then it flies with awesome speed ..

Quote: Thrall

Damn, what do we do now?

[DMB_95]

Quote: 210ox

. Well, there is no ramjet engine ... But then it flies at an awesome speed ..

If they are most worried about the lack of accuracy of the wording, even if they call the “Dagger” at least an airplane - this will not affect its combat characteristics.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: 210ox

.Well, there is no direct-flow engine ..

Duc, and the Americans have a "hypersonic" ramjet so far .... "not worth it!"

[Now we are free]

At the same time, the magazine notes that today “no one in the world disposes of Russia aeroballistic missiles. "
1) The National Interest has created another high ... ahem, MEM. There is no such thing as an aeroballistic missile; there is a concept of a ballistic missile launched from an air carrier.
2) It should be borne in mind that the upgraded version of the 9M723 quasi-ballistic single-stage guided solid-fuel rocket of the Iskander complex is launched from the MiG-31, which can raise it to a height of (20 km) and tell it its original speed up to (3000 km / h) ... And accordingly, in the rocket itself it is no longer necessary to spend so much effort to achieve the desired height and speed, respectively, the saved weight can be used for ... And why let The National Interest themselves ask themselves a question ...

[Conserp]

Quote: Now we are free

There is no such thing as an aeroballistic missile; there is a concept of a ballistic missile launched from an air carrier.

Did the Boy in Mask school tell you this?

"Launched from air carrier" = "aircraft".

“Aeroballistic” has nothing to do with air launch. This term is about the use of aerodynamic lift.

[Thrall]

Quote: Conserp

“Aeroballistic” has nothing to do with air launch. This term is about the use of aerodynamic lift.

Would you like to write a little article on Wiki?

[Mihail28]

There is no such thing as an aeroballistic rocket

Reminded "winged": * oops there, but no words.
Threat. I am not an expert in the field of ballistics, so quotes (from the Internet):
"Work: Formation of maneuverable sections of the trajectories of aeroballic aircraft.
Moscow Aviation Institute,
Military Academy of the Strategic Missile Forces.
Abstract: The paper proposes methods for the formation of maneuvers of aeroballistic aircraft ... "
As I understand it, this is about the movement of the Non-Spherical Horse in the Non-Vacuum.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Thrall

Damn, what do we do now?

We will pick our nose: "And we spit on your opinion" ...

[Skif83]

But to test in practice on such experts here, they will survive - it means not hyper -..., but not ... then there will be no one to recognize!
But seriously, the DOG Barks, the CARAVAN IS GOING ...

[shinobi]

But no way! Neighing and forget.

[Crowe]

Quote: shinobi

Neighing and forget.

Squealing - yes, forgetting - never. I’ll also write it down. Let's see what they sing when the Congress begs money.

[DMoroz]

not, to declare to sworn partners that a missile from the "Dagger" class called "Misericord" has already been developed ...

[smart_ups]

Most likely, a hypersonic rocket can be considered which 80-100% of the flight flies in hypersound. if this is only a certain flight section, then there are such missiles now.

[Mihail28]

If so harsh, then with supersonic aviation is generally a disaster. That is, only those aircraft in which supersonic speed is cruising should be considered supersonic?

[smart_ups]

Well, we don’t call all ballistic missiles hypersonic? Although they all enter the atmosphere in hypersound.

[Eflintuk]

After the election it will be possible to call !!!

[smart_ups]

In general, it is a medium-range air-launched ballistic missile that misses the INF. The original goal is likely.

[san4es]

Quote: Crowe

... - How shoud I understand this?.

... No way ... This is a paradox (for them)

[dog breeder]

Crowe
It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?
What do you resent? They are experts and legislators in this field! And plus our all-wearers! So everything is logical!

[cats]

Quote: dog breeder

They are experts and legislators in this field!

What difference does it make at all, how do you ... get hyper or not hyper ..
They’ll get it anyway.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?

Yes, even if they call it a pot. But f-35 - the fifth generation, of course, yes.

[LSA57]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic -

Does she know about this?

[siberalt]

The "dagger" is not hypersonic. Who cares, die a minute earlier or later?

[Vadim851]

Most likely they have a different classification. Hypersonic - there must be a scramjet, or, alternatively, hypersound when meeting with a target.
But on the other hand, after all, everything that overcomes 5M is hypersonic, the basic version 9M723 gives out, so the dagger is hypersonic.

[Bykov.]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?

Not only everyone can understand this. Few can do this. ... (with.)

[Fisher martin]

Estonian air defense does not believe in the existence of supersonic aviation :)

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?

And so to understand: the Yankees consider that a hypersonic missile in which hypersonic speed is provided by an engine that works most of the flight time. Otherwise, the same antique AGM-69 SRAM and other air-to-surface ballistics can be recorded in the hypersonic class.

[mark1]

Quote: Alexey RA

AGM-69 SRAM

Speed ​​3M - alas.
hypersound only where it is possible to propagate to sound waves - i.e. in the atmosphere, not every aircraft is able to withstand prolonged heat load, so antiques do not roll.

[voyaka uh]

"She flies with hypersonic speed, but she is not hypersonic" ////

All warhead ballistic missiles are hypersonic. Already 60 years.
But they are not called the Kyrgyz Republic.
Hypersonic flying is hypersonic flying in the atmosphere, not falling
into the atmosphere from above from space.

[Conserp]

Quote: voyaka uh

Hypersonic flight is hypersonic flight in the atmosphere, and not a fall into the atmosphere from above from space.

Absolutely.

National Interest once again wrote enchanting stupidity.

[_Ugene_]

At the Dagger, the warhead does not fly in hypersound, but the entire rocket, and it does not fall from space. Why is this comparison?

[Bykov.]

Quote: voyaka uh

"She flies with hypersonic speed, but she is not hypersonic" ////

All warhead ballistic missiles are hypersonic. Already 60 years.
But they are not called the Kyrgyz Republic.
Hypersonic flying is hypersonic flying in the atmosphere, not falling
into the atmosphere from above from space.

Something I did not understand, but who fell from space? "Dagger"?

[Ushly_bashkort]

No, it's like with the Crimean bridge - it is, but it is not, and in general Mosfilm. As they say - with whom you will lead from that and will be typed.

[Cube123]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?
Maybe she feels not hypersonic? - Tolerantly.

Her abilities widerthan hypersonic with ramjet engine. It can move in an airless space, where there is NO sound, as you know!

[Vato dobro]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?

So understand. A hypersonic missile can be considered as such if it maintains hypersonic speed on almost the entire portion of its route. If it reaches such speeds on limited segments, then it is not hypersonic. Although Putin did not say anything about the "hypersonic missile," but about hypersonic weapons. Those. it could be implied that this weapon is capable of reaching hypersonic speeds of up to 10 max.

[MY THOUGHT]

hypersonic but not winged, they mean, it uses a different principle of achieving hyperspeed, and that we did not solve the problem that they solved simply achieved results in a different way
, it's all exactly what to launch a blizzard into space with the help of mri or with the help of an energy rocket

[Metallurg_2]

No, it just flies silently - that's why Hyper, but not Sound ...

[CHARM]

Quote: Irek

And it’s violet for us that you think and think there ...

What the English experts write is not for our eyes, but for the English, American and European inhabitants. There’s nothing to worry about. First they said that it’s a fake, now they say that it’s not a fake, but nifiga is not hyper-speedy ... tomorrow they will declare that all US and EU institutions are working on systems for intercepting Russian high-speed missiles.

[K-50]

Expert Opinion of The National Interest magazine. : The new Russian aeroballistic missile of low radar signature and high maneuverability “Dagger” cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon

What naive !!
Yes, we actually do us army, what do you think / do not think. We have the main thing !!!! Everything else is not even secondary, but in the top ten, especially the opinion of such "experts."

[Dezinto]

Well, let’s not call it hypersonic, even if they call this rocket cardboard, our pilots and designers know better, and it’s not cold or hot from “their” opinions.

[novel66]

at the same time, it will be cold and hot on that aircraft carrier to which it will fly (although not for long)

[KVU-NSVD]

From playing with words, the complex will not become less deadly, so call it whatever you want ... When such a thing arrives, then the terminology becomes secondary ..

[Azazelo]

We probably should burst into tears about this ??? ..

[CAT BAIYUN]

National Interest refused to recognize the "Dagger" hypersonic weapon

Oh well. We survive and without recognition.

[Dezinto]

National Interest refused to recognize the "Dagger" hypersonic weapon

Yes, in general, we close production, dismiss everyone, it's all over - we were not recognized! Urgently sad .... Once a magazine did not recognize!

[CAT BAIYUN]

Yes, in general, we close production, dismiss everyone

Indeed ... In another way, there’s no way .. Such a clumsy thing ... We burst into tears.

[sergey32]

And what is easier to die, realizing that on the arrived ... is not a direct-flow, but a solid-fuel engine?

[DMoroz]

the layman is reassured that America is still not completely lost in terms of promising weapons ...
And so, at least call it hypersonic, even aeroballistic

the "Dagger" has no analogues in other countries.

[CooL_SnipeR]

Radish horseradish is not sweeter ... or they rely on Vrungel with his Po-Poor

[shinobi]

And, well, yes, this is our hypersound. Poor! He's like that gopher
- Do you see him? -
-No-
-And he is-

[Hariton laptev]

Well, how did this American exclusivity get it !!! Well, someone can not appear earlier than them! And if it appears then before the shrimp ... they will yell that this is anything but not that. What is not news because of the puddles is only abomination.

[next322]

strange, but the magazine "PLAYBOY" considers the hypersonic rocket ........ and who to believe now?

[Fisher martin]

And believe him. We must believe the magazines with beautiful girls :)

[Sasha_Sar]

In the message to “Finkinton,” Putin said that we have “......” more than theirs. As such, they should have more of this a priori. Then what are they masters of the world. Something like this reminds me of a sandbox in kindergarten

[Alex-a832]

With the same logic, a wheeled tank cannot be scattered with a tank - it’s not on caterpillar tracks ... Puddle experts ...

[Romanenko]

Quote: "National Interest refused to recognize the" Dagger "as a hypersonic weapon"
Everything was lost, it was not recognized as hypersonic, and right away the rocket speed dropped to 20 km / h, but there’s nothing to say about power and all because the National Interest did not recognize ...
We'll have to rivet a new rocket so that they like ...

[saveall]

I don’t understand this rocket can overcome hypersound only if it is launched from an airplane? And if you run from the ground? The plane is an additional accelerating element in this case ... Or do I not understand something? The plane can then be destroyed before the launch of the rocket. Although, if he launches from his territory, then who dares to bring down ...

[Ascetic]

Quote: saveall

The aircraft is an additional accelerating element in this case ..

The dagger is a hypersonic rocket complex.Where is the keyword complex ... You can not consider separately the product from the carrier, controls. guidance and aiming ... The speed of the rocket is an important element here, but not the main one, as well as the remote control whether it be a gas scramjet, a turbojet engine or poison ...
This is the error of the iksperds that they consider the characteristics of the product in isolation from the entire missile complex

[saveall]

So the plane is part of this missile system or what? No plane, no launch, as I understand it ...

[Bykov.]

Quote: saveall

So the plane is part of this missile system or what? No plane, no launch, as I understand it ...

What about without an airplane?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Ascetic

The dagger is a hypersonic missile system.

Actually, the new "Dagger" -aviation-missile system (!) ...

[mark1]

Quote: saveall

I don’t understand this rocket can overcome hypersound only if it is launched from an airplane?

It’s just simply bypassing the INF system that the second step cannot be put on Iskander ...

[viralig]

Found something to scare - they say not hypersonic. Yes, as in FIG, they recognize it as hypersonic or not, the fact is that no one else has it and there is no protection against it. And they do not recognize, they do not recognize at all.

[rotmistr60]

From that recognized or not recognized National Interest "Dagger" hypersonic weapons TTX of this product will not change. It is possible to discredit (belittle) what is not, but what is already tested has already been discredited (to belittle) is impossible.

[flicker]

The new Russian aeroballistic missile of low radar visibility and high maneuverability “Dagger” cannot be considered a hypersonic weapon, leads Lenta.ru opinion of experts of The National Interest magazine.

It would be strange if the experts of The National Interest magazine called the Dagger a hypersonic missile - they do not want to be unemployed, and even with a wolf ticket.

[Anchonsha]

Why, it is necessary to somehow support the image of the United States, which collapsed after the development of the latest weapons by Russia. Yes, we are indifferent to our weapons or not perceiving exceptional barbarians - the main thing is that the Merikans will now sharply change their behavior in Syria and in the whole world otherwise they will receive a return. It's just that we are tired of observing the principle of not harming even more, that evil is conquered by good. This does not work with regard to mattress covers - they are even more impudent and consider this a Russian weakness.

[viralig]

Ordinary Americans are mostly normal people, but their elite ........ The principle rules there -
"Money is power, and power is money." that's why they steal the budget - and the largest budget is the military, and then space. And here Russia began to squeeze out the arms market - and so they scream. And look where they are fighting - where there is oil or other valuable resources, or against Russia (but all Anglo-Saxons have a fad here, except perhaps Germany). Yes, and what to expect from a state whose ancestors were mostly women of easy virtue, exiled convicts and pirates (JP Morgan - the primary capital from piracy - for example).

[Mountain shooter]

And what does the direct-flow source have to do with it? Hypersound is a characteristic of AMS SPEED, not an engine type Weak experts in this magazine ...

[Old26]

Quote: Crowe

It flies at hypersonic speed, but it is not hypersonic - how to understand this?
Maybe she feels not hypersonic? - Tolerantly.

Everything is quite simple. Hypersonic weapons are missiles, winged, which can accelerate to hypersonic speeds. This is a breakthrough
If an aeroballistic missile equipped with a tevrd fuel or liquid rocket engine, then such a missile and weapon system is not considered hypersonic, since the velocity at the end of the active section of any ballistic missile is hypersonic. Any Russian land-based or sea-based missile can be considered hypersonic. And the American "tridents" and "Minutemans" are also hypersonic. Many modern anti-aircraft missiles are also hypersonic. So, by and large, NI magazines are right. Of course, for complacency, this weapon can be considered hypersonic, but only for personal reassurance.
Here Zircon - yes, this is a breakthrough and the creation of hypersonic weapons. By the way, no one can say exactly what Dagger is. An aeroballistic missile or nevertheless a hypersonic winged aircraft is hidden under a dropable casing. Then this is also a breakthrough. And also a new hypersonic weapon. And some minor details indicate precisely the possibility of such an option.

Quote: Now we are free

There is no such thing as an aeroballistic missile; there is a concept of a ballistic missile launched from an air carrier.

By the way, there is. And this term was enshrined in one of the strategic arms agreements along with the term BRVZ. This refers to a ballistic missile launched from an aircraft and moving toward a target along a ballistic trajectory. An example of aeroballistic missiles was our X-15 and the American SREM

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Old26

Hypersonic weapons are cruise missiles, which can accelerate to hypersonic speeds.

Quote: Old26

If an aeroballistic missile equipped with a teplofuel or liquid rocket engine, then such a missile and weapon system is not considered hypersonic, since the velocity at the end of the active section of any ballistic missile is hypersonic.

Quote: Old26

Hypersonic weapons are cruise missiles, which can accelerate to hypersonic speeds.

And why all this "high-wisdom"? :( "device" flies at hypersonic speed, but we will not consider it "hypersonic" because it does not fit into the US qualification table (!) Again, "arrangement" of an old song about a gopher, which "is, but no one sees it" ? We have long been accustomed to operate with concepts: subsonic (transonic), supersonic, hypersonic based on the speed of sound in air (331 m / s).!

[Fedor egoist]

Comments already almost completely leafed through in the hope of seeing at least one that reflects my opinion on this issue.
Thank you for saving me from writing this comment. Everything is clearly written. I completely agree.

[Nitarius]

Well, well .. let them dare to test on their own skin!

[rocket757]

How so? They unwound their planning bombs, like something irresistible ... like from afar, the "invisibility" dropped it and quietly faded it!
It seems that the quiet will not work and will they finally let you enter the discharge zone? All the same, 100km, in the medium-range air defense strike zone!
The planning bomb is good, barely noticeable, corrects and wags a little, but logically the carriers will be wet, this is the most effective option.
A high-speed missile launched outside the anti-aircraft defense zone has good chances to hit where it is needed and the carrier has good chances to wash off whole!
Anyway, this fuel is in the furnace, not the world of course !!! So you can probably be proud, but there’s nothing to rejoice about!

[Prisoner]

Will it make it easier for them when he arrives?

[cosmonaut]

I immediately recall the famous film, yes grenades, he has the wrong system)))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHaPCiKwUq8

[tank66]

If so, the question is posed. Let according to the NATO recognition system be SHUTKA.

[Esoteric]

Until they try the language, they will call it what they want. On that they and "experts". By the way, it’s not only “About Igor’s Regiment”, but to reflection at the front door of the Pentagon: Some still doubt the capabilities of the S-400, Su-57 (although they caught up with fear), the SPG “Coalition”, T-14 ... yes you never know? Or do you think that military equipment designed to protect sovereignty should wind kilometers and spend resources in "ceremonial columns"? Apparently therefore, our salaries and pensions are so low. If we do not have the opportunity to buy a ticket to the World Cup for more than 66 thousand, this does not mean that we will be glad to see the capabilities of our weapons in pictures and animated videos.

[Sverdlov]

This I wrote here yesterday on the resource:
The Iskander stub shown to us is not a hypersonic missile. A-priory. No closed thrust source with hypersonic speed. And, by definition, an object cannot move faster than the speed of an outgoing jet.
Samples of hypersonic rockets available in pictures are direct exhaust pipes. But their survivability in this mode is seconds, minutes.
Iskandek's “Hypersound” is pseudo-hypersound. A missile maneuvers at launch, on approach. Then he makes a mountain and resets the warhead. And now it already falls on the enemy with hypersonic speed using the potential energy of gravity of the Earth. Like warhead ballistics.
Shoot both in attack mode is almost impossible.

[sogdy]

Beautiful reasoning. But what about torpedoes?

[Jurkovs]

The main thing is that it can fly and maneuver at hypersonic speeds in dense layers of the atmosphere. And what kind of engine is it worth ten. A turbojet engine will be more reliable than a ramjet, cheaper, and may be in constant combat readiness.

[Alexey-74]

As stripes like to attach the abbreviation to something ..... yes, what difference does it have (straight-through or not), is one rocket flying at a speed of 10 Mach, and you can’t do anything with it

[bratchanin3]

In my opinion, a hypersonic missile is characterized not by a propulsion device (ramjet or nuclear, or whatever), but by the hypersonic speed with which the missile travels in the enemy’s missile defense zone. There is not even a definition for a hypersonic missile, if I am not mistaken, what is the proportion of hypersonic speed in a certain section, relative to the entire flight path of the rocket. And not necessarily a hypersonic missile should have this speed throughout the movement.

[ARES623]

Yes, even call a banana, the main thing is an elusive splinter at your fifth point!

[Berkut24]

According to the authors of the publication, the “Dagger” cannot be considered “a cruise missile operating on the basis of a hypersonic ramjet engine”, respectively, “it cannot be called a hypersonic weapon, despite the fact that ballistic missiles accelerate to hypersonic speeds during flight”

Firstly, no one ever said that hypersonic weapons must necessarily have a ramjet engine. The new warheads of ballistic missiles have hypersonic gliding charges. Those. no engine at all, but no one disputes that they are hypersonic. For hypersound is not an engine, but a speed.
Secondly, I would express a greater doubt that this is a cruise missile. For on hypersound, wings are not needed at all as a bearing surface, but only thrusters are needed.
Thirdly, I think that the commander of the ship, as a potential target, does not care about the opinion of the authors of this publication. He knows that there is no protection now. And this is karma for many years.

[Conserp]

Quote: Berkut24

the commander of the ship, as a potential target, do not care about the opinion of the authors of this publication. He knows that there is no protection now.

Strictly speaking, there was no protection before.

In 2011, a scandal came when they summed up the large-scale test program conducted in 2008-2010.

All anti-aircraft missile systems in service with the U.S. Navy failed to intercept supersonic anti-ship missiles. Both the SAM itself and the radars showed themselves poorly.

Since then, nothing has changed, and every ship commander understands this - simply by the fact that training firing on such targets is not carried out at all.

So that there are no questions about where such information came from: anyone can download "Justification Book Weapons Procurement, Navy" for different years and look at the purchase figures of the GQM-163A Coyote: 5-7 pieces per year. This is in the presence of 22 Ticonderoges and 64 Berks in the ranks.

[Archivist Vasya]

"Dagger" is a "modernized version

Soviet rocket X-32 actually.

[mark1]

no, if only because. that the X-32 is liquid, and in appearance the Dagger is the brother of Iskander

[Archivist Vasya]

So they modernized it. The X-32 was ready by the year 2000, only then it wasn’t taken into service for unknown reasons ... And in order not to re-create the missile from scratch, they used the Soviet development, improving and changing its characteristics. Peremoga. Speaking of the economy, Putin, as he did not particularly spread during his message, is sad to see things.

[mark1]

Digging deep and wide, Archivist Vasya, but still - no ...

[keeper03]

Can't admit it? ... Well, a dog with him - what difference does it make to die!
The Americans can only not recognize the hypersound and impose sanctions on their pants!

[Pacifist]

Something they generally ceased to be friends with logic. And here the type of engine is generally incomprehensible. Hypersonic is an object moving with speeds exceeding 5 max. Does the dagger complex rocket move at such speeds? Yes, moving. I understand that they just felt insulted and they started to carry the blizzard because, as usual, they suddenly saw that the result was achieved not for $ 100 billion, but for 100 rubles and they look like idiots. That's dusting.

[Kostadinov]

According to the authors of the publication, “Dagger” cannot be considered a “cruise missile operating on the basis of a hypersonic ramjet engine”

No one ever claimed that the dagger is a CR with hypersonic ramjet.

[svp67]

According to the authors of the publication, “Dagger” cannot be considered a “cruise missile operating on the basis of a hypersonic ramjet engine”

And who, besides you, calls her WINGED? She is from a new subspecies of “aeroballistic” missiles and she is HYPERSONIC.
And I really wish you to avoid a "very close acquaintance" with her.

[Lester7777]

"What does the name mean? A rose smells like a rose,
At least call her a rose, at least not. "

[Kyrgyz]

Well, apparently it means you and have nothing to worry about

[Zina389]

1) It will take years to equip the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with new weapons. So far, the US missile defense focused on old missiles is acting to the extent that it was counted on. 2) Missile defense from countries such as the DPRK, or in the near future, Iran, is also worth something. 3) It is quite obvious that a new round of the arms race is beginning. So work can and will be more, but life will be poorer. 4) It is likely that the United States will consider that the Russian Federation violated treaties on offensive weapons and medium-range systems with its new developments. So you need to urgently call to Cuba. How's it going?

[Clumsy]

Op pa shah and checkmate, on. development work, but we don’t recognize it))) English, scientists, nervously smoke aside)))

[Gravy]

How children get rid of what scares, such as turned away - and there is none ... Does not exist.

[Yaro Polk]

This they made a conclusion on that 2 second video on YouTube?)

[Dart]

like ostriches in the sand ... if something is not visible, then it is not there, they hid.

[Nikolaevich I]

Crowe,
"Jupiter, you are angry, so you're wrong ..."

[Zomanus]

Yes, let them recognize. And we do not have a Sarmatian nuclear weapon.
But let them not try to check it on their own skin and everything will be fine.
Because this is all a weapon for such a case. after which the living will envy the dead.
Moreover, regardless of the country of residence, at the time of use of this weapon.

[Bastion Eagle]

Yes, we remember...Su57 is not the fifth generation, T 14 is not a revolution in tank building, "Sarmat" is a Soviet development, nuclear engines are not environmentally friendly and do not exist at all....like only a nuclear apocalypse (which does not correspond to the term apocalypse) ... ...

[Bykov.]

Quote: Hold Eagle

Yes, we remember...Su57 is not the fifth generation, T 14 is not a revolution in tank building, "Sarmat" is a Soviet development, nuclear engines are not environmentally friendly and do not exist at all....like only a nuclear apocalypse (which does not correspond to the term apocalypse) ... ...

Reality is too unpleasant for them to take it for granted. All that remains is to deny its existence.

[Bibabo]

As I understand it, this assessment has the meaning of a forecast: a solution was found only for one specific case; the creation of this product does not mean that Russia is capable of producing other types of hypersonic missiles. That is, it is not a fact that Russia is capable in the near future of creating a rocket capable of launching from the ground or from a ship and moving at hypersonic speed. And experience shows that such decisions often turn out to be the limit of our possibilities.

[gloomy fox]

What did they blurt out, but what did they even understand?

[Pbs2]

Hmm, “Military Review” is gradually turning into “Censor.net”. Both in content and comments. And also by the activity of the moderators)))

[not main]

AnpeL,
The whole question is that you went, but when you live it’s completely different! I am not saying this unfoundedly; I left the Republic of Belarus in 2001. I won’t say that it’s widespread, but it exists! I heard a lot of things addressed to me: why don’t you go to your Russia? So I left. I have a positive attitude towards Belarusians; basically, they are literate and competent people.

[pvv113]

"Dagger" cannot be considered a "cruise missile"

Hitler didn’t like the Katyushas either, but no one was interested in his opinion

[mann-mann]

American “strategists” decided to offend Russia because the missile is not hypersonic! But they will never understand that we never get offended, but only get angry, and even with such a missile!