Alexander Matrosov. Part of 3. On the identity and nationality of the hero

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Alexander Matrosov. Part of 3. On the identity and nationality of the hero


Continuing the theme of the exploit of Alexander Matrosov, I want to touch on the theme of the hero's nationality, which is ailing for some critics. Russia has long been trying to draw into interethnic clashes. World politicians are well aware that Russia, like the USSR, is a multinational country, a country that unites more than a hundred and fifty nations.



The materials that we will use in the article today have long been in the public domain. We simply systematize the known facts.

So, there is in Bashkiria, in Uchalinsky district, an ordinary village called Kunakbaevo. There is a "zest" in the village - a monument to the Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Matrosov. And it is unusual in this monument that after the name and surname of the Hero, in brackets, a different name is written - Shakiryan Mukhametianov.



Many residents of Kunakbaevo will tell you that this was the name of Alexander Matrosov in childhood. And this monument is set here because it is from here that Alexander - Shakiryan was born. Even those who knew him personally once called. Bashkirs are very honored history his people, his village, his own kind. More precisely, revered, remembered and passed on to children.

How did it happen that the Bashkir version of the birth of the Hero does not coincide with the official one? Any schoolchild from history textbooks knows that Alexander Matveevich Matrosov was born on December 5 on 1924 in the city of Yekaterinoslav (Dnepropetrovsk). He was brought up in the aunt's family. He lived in her separate apartment. He worked at the factory as a turner 6 discharge. An orphan. Father was killed by fists, and mother died from grief. There is even a museum in Dnepropetrovsk.

And in another museum, in Velikiye Luki, where the Sailors died, they will tell you exactly this version of the birth of the Hero. However, no document confirming these stories will not show. Everything died during the occupation. Therefore, the main evidence of the history of the birth of Alexander Matrosov will be copies of documents from military units.

Where did the second version come from? Oddly enough, it was museums that contributed to its appearance. More precisely, the painstaking work of museum workers and historians.

Agree that the life story of the 19-year-old guy can not be long. That is why museum workers searched for any information about Alexander. Documents, photos, reports of commanders, descriptions of the feat witnesses. Even the machine gun and the Komsomol ticket stored in the Central Archive of the Moscow Region in Podolsk were studied and made copies.

The history of the Matrosov Komsomol ticket is the subject of a separate investigation. It exists in duplicate. With the same number. The first is in the Museum of the Armed Forces in Moscow, the second is in the Museum of the Great Onions. Which of the two is genuine is difficult to say now.



It is good that there are photos.

The appearance of photographs was a turning point in the history of Matrosov. In 1952, one of the residents of the village recognized in the photo his fellow villager who had left the village in 1933. And then, remember the relations of the Bashkirs to their own history, and the true history of Matrosov began to appear.

A great work was done by Bashkir writers Anver Bikchentayev and Rauf Nasyrov.

Alas, not everything in the life of this person was the way the official version said. More precisely, as always, they made up with three boxes.

The boy was born in an ordinary family of Yunus Mukhametyanov. He was the fourth child. In 1932, I went to school. And just then, 2 September 1932, first hit the camera lens. Was filmed in a group of local school students. It is important.





From the history we remember that it was in 1932-33 that the USSR overtook the second wave of famine. For the family of the future hero, it became a personal tragedy. Died mother. My father started drinking from grief. The children were left unattended. The farm has fallen into decay.

It was then that the compassionate neighbors decided to send the youngest of the Mukhametyanovs to an orphanage. That is how the record of the village council appeared at all, an entry that was not typical for the time against the name of Shakiryan - dropped out.



So it was not Shakiryan who went to her aunt, but to the orphanage. Actually, this saved, most likely, his life.

How was it sent? Yes, the whole world. They gathered the village, who could, and sent to the Melekessky orphanage of the Ulyanovsk region.

In the orphanage Shakiryan got the nickname "Sailor". Today it is difficult to say what was the reason, but the fact remained in the memory.

The fact that life in the orphanage was, to put it mildly, not sugar. The struggle for survival, in which the strong and the stubborn won. Shakiryan-Sailor survived.

And then it happened that in November 1935, he was transferred to the Ivanovo orphanage. And here, as it often happened then, the boy showed forgetfulness. According to the documents of the orphanage, the newcomer is recorded as besfamilny. But, it is in the Ivanovo orphanage that the guy receives official documents in the name of Matrosov Alexander Matveyevich.

Everything is logical. Shakiryan became Alexander, the surname of the Sailors took from the nickname, the middle name was given by one of the tutors. Normal practice of the time.

What is the background? Most likely, in the reluctance to be the "black sheep". Shakiryan is good to be in Bashkiria or Tatarstan. But in the Ulyanovsk or Ivanovo regions, Alexander is still better.

Children in general are cruel creatures. In orphanages in particular. So the transformation of Shakiryan Mukhametianov into Alexander Matrosov is normal, logical and justified. The Soviet people, as a community, will appear later.

With the documents received, Alexander repeatedly arrives in his native village for the holidays. And according to the memories of local residents, he asks to call him not Shakir, but Sasha. Memories are recorded and stored in the village council of Kunakbaevo.

They pushed the local authorities to insist on conducting an official examination of Matrosov’s personality. Photographs of Matrosov were sent to the Research Institute of Forensic Examination under the Ministry of Justice. One, about which we wrote above, 1932 of the year and three, which were in the personal affairs of the Hero.

The answer of the experts was unequivocal. All photos show, albeit with reservation, the same person. Thus, Alexander Matrosov and Shakiryan Mukhametianov are one and the same person.

The further fate of the future Hero of the Soviet Union is also interesting. He graduated from the seven-year school in an orphanage and was sent to work in Kuybyshev, to the car-repair plant. However, he escaped and was caught by the police in Saratov. For the lack of documents, he was arrested and sent to the Ufa children's labor colony of the NKVD.

It sounds ominous, but in the fate of Matrosov the colony played a positive role. It was from there that he was drafted into the army in 1942. But they were sent not to the front, but to the Krasnokholmsky Infantry School in the Orenburg Region. Sensible and smart young man took care of a command post.

They were also taken to the Komsomol.

Matrosov was not destined to graduate from college. As often happened at that time, at the beginning of 1943, the order came to send cadets to the active army. Alexandra is sent to the 2 battalion of the 254 Guards Regiment 91 of the Stalinist Corps 6 Brigade. This compound was formed by the NKVD.

We wrote about the exploit of Alexander Matrosov in the previous article. But one question remains, the answer to which can finally close the topic of the birth of the hero of the article. Where did the official version of the pre-war life of the Hero come from? Why does any schoolchild tell about Matrosov exactly that made-up story?

The indirect reason for this was ... Stalin! It was he who, personally, wrote on the documents about the death of Alexander Matrosov: "A fighter is a hero. The corps is a guards". Thus, the award should have been quick. But at least some documents were needed to complete the case of the Hero of the Soviet Union.

An officer of the political department of the front was sent to the 91 brigade, who, based on the documents sent from the Krasnokholmsk school, compiled Matrosov’s biography. Tu, beautiful, in accordance with the spirit of the times. You can't disobey the leader, but also talk about the realities of that time ... About the orphanage, escapes, the children's labor colony ...

Apparently, the officer was not a fool and did not seek adventure. And just wrote a suitable story.

The final version of the life and death of Alexander Matrosov was invented by the director of the famous film “Two Fighters” (1943) Leonid Lukov.

It was he who in 1947, made the famous film "Soldier Alexander Matrosov". He took off ingeniously, mentally, but ... As an artist, he even embellished a bit the official version, thought out some details, from a young, inexperienced soldier Alexander turned into an experienced warrior who had smashed fascists for more than a year.

Rebuke Lukov for a brilliant, but not truthful film, it is impossible. The director shot not a documentary, but a feature film. And took off well. Probably every boy of the post-war time saw the “movie about Matrosov” several times. Yes, and most of today's readers, too.

So, in the fate of one nineteen-year-old soldier, the fates of many famous and nameless heroes of that war crossed. 75 years ago, a Bashkir with a Russian surname accomplished a feat that was later repeated by more than 200 people.
And now what are we doing all this for?

Have you ever wondered why even today the heroes of military films are not perceived by Russians, Ukrainians, Yakuts, Kazakhs, Bashkirs, Tatars, Ossetians? Even in modern films it is present. The famous "28 Panfilov" remember.

Does it matter where this soldier comes from? Does it matter what language he spoke? Does it matter what his nose, hair color, eye shape? This is a Russian soldier. This is the protector. Who cares whether he is Alexander or Shakiryan?

In principle, no. Thousands of Alexandrov and Shakiryanov died far from their native places, fighting for their village and for the whole country. And they won in the end.

And we, all normal people, say: "Eternal memory to the heroes!". Without any division into nationalities or nationalities.

And the residents of the Bashkir village did the right thing when the first name was written by their countryman. But the truth is that the second they wrote his generic name. This is our common hero, Alexander Matrosov, and the Bashkir hero Shakiryan Mukhametianov.

Speaking of the fact that in our history, unfortunately, there were many inventions and frankly unnecessary corrections, it is simply necessary to recognize that, yes, it did. Invented, thought out and embellished. And nothing can be done about it.

But how much do all these notions belittle Matrosov's feat? Kosmodemyanskoy? Talalikhina? Gorobets and many others?

Yes, someone remained unknown and not marked by awards, respect and memory. As the first junior politruk Ponkratov who closed a machine gun, for example.

Does the feat of Matrosov become less valuable? Still not. Not getting. And it is really mean to dig in the past, looking for absurdities, on the basis of which one can say loudly that all this is a lie and fiction.

We will go so far. Before that, 2 of May was not above the Reich Chancellery banner. This, too, was invented by the damned communists. Well, and so on.

Do not shit on the dead, they do not care. On the contrary, finding and telling about an unknown feat is a more noble task.

But for this you can not collect likes. Nevertheless, we will continue our historical stories about famous and not so heroes of that war.

Our heroes. These.


Alexander Matrosov. Part of 1. Gods are not overthrown from pedestals

Alexander Matrosov. Part of 2. Anatomy of the feat
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  1. +12
    17 March 2018 06: 29
    Loved the article. Authors ---- Respect !!!!!!

    It sometimes seems to me that soldiers who have not come from the bloody fields,
    They didn’t die in our land once, but turned into white cranes.
  2. +31
    17 March 2018 06: 58
    Nationality is just not important here.
    Soviet man
    1. Cat
      +5
      17 March 2018 13: 50
      Alas, I am a different nationality - it is important! Understanding of the clan (family), land and the Fatherland is our Everything! When behind a family, home, homeland, a person goes on a feat and sacrifices himself!
      Perhaps this is the key to understanding the victory that the Soviet people won during the Great Patriotic War.
      Just add to the scales the motives and aspirations of the peoples of the Soviet Union and Fascist Germany and its allies?
      Findings? The conclusions are obvious!
      Now to the question of nationality.
      Russia was originally a multinational state. So, starting with the squad of Prince Rurik and ending with the present day, a multinational army always stood shoulder to shoulder against a common enemy. Remember who warned Prince Alexander Yaroslavovich (not yet Nevsky) about the landing of the Swedish army, Jarl Berger? Local Izhora. You can continue further, both to the day past and today.
      Ultimately, the main thing is different, that in the Russian state there is always a place for Russians and non-Russians. Moreover, for everyone it is native. And so much so that it is not a sin to give up life.
    2. +16
      17 March 2018 15: 10
      From the point of view of the Immortal Feat, it is not nationality and / or even personality that matters
      A - Feat
      1. Cat
        +1
        17 March 2018 17: 32
        The problem is not a feat, but his awareness. A person’s understanding of what exactly he needs to do now is that which will possibly cost him his life.
        In the late Soviet Union, a lot was said about the concept of "mass heroism"! Later, this term was decided to criticize, but if you really look at things. Whether exploits, conscious or unconscious (random), will be equal. I think no!
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    4. +3
      18 March 2018 07: 23
      [/ quote] Is it so important where this soldier comes from? Is it important what language he spoke? Does it really matter what his nose, hair color, eye shape? This is a Russian soldier. This is the protector. What difference does it make, Alexander or Shakiryan?


      Cheburator (Mikhail)
      Nationality is just not important here.
      Soviet man [quote]


      The author TREASURES ... Well, after all, everything seems to be correct and kindly writes, about the cut of eyes there and all that -
      but still Cunning! .. That ALL THIS becomes "not important" in a country that 26 years ago was the Russian Empire - it is necessary that a person in it becomes massively S-O-B-E-T-S-K-I-M

      And he is completely and fundamentally right - Cheburator (Mikhail)!

      I have read all 3 parts of this article. And I can say: the feeling that the author dislikes the Communists is distinct. Not that he has about it in every line, but - in at least two places of the general text "is". The second of them is, in fact, this cited quote, which gradually replaces the fundamental (i.e., political) meanings of the Second World War. The nature of the heroism of the victors in this unprecedented war in the history of civilization is unrivaled POLITICAL! And not "ethnic", "cultural-soil-based", "religious-mystical" or whatever. The invincibility of fascism by 1941 was the invincibility of a new civilizational type. And SUCH - only an ideology could overcome, EXCEEDING the ideology of fascism in its civilizational novelty. If, as you know, school teachers win in an “ordinary” war, then in this war the Komsomol and Party organizers won. But this truth hurts all anti-communists ... The author seems to rightly unleash his anger at the "five-columnists" who are doing everything to defame our history - but at the same time, replacing the "Soviet" with the "Russian", he himself is doing exactly the same thing . What is so Soviet? We do not know such. Russian. And this crafty finale, quite in the spirit of liberal upholstery / fanning of the Lenin Mausoleum for the parades, quite in the spirit of double-headed eagles on one and a half November 07.11.41, XNUMX - says a lot ...

      ... On the same topic: why did they begin to celebrate Victory Day in the Great Patriotic War with a ribbon under the strange name "St. George's"? .. And why didn’t they name it as it should according to HISTORICAL justice: "ribbon of the Order of Glory"? .. Question to backfill ... But I will tell you especially stubborn lovers of bakery crunch and other "historical restorers": the question is - everything is on the same topic ...
      1. +1
        18 March 2018 22: 27
        Quote: Arthur Evnevich
        ... On the same topic: why did they begin to celebrate Victory Day in the Second World War with a ribbon under the strange name "St. George's"? .. And why didn’t they name it as it should according to HISTORICAL justice: "ribbon of the Order of Glory"? ..

        In Soviet times, this ribbon was called the "Guards", I once took the oath in the Navy with such a ribbon on a peakless cap.
        1. +1
          19 March 2018 00: 33
          Quote: Alexander Green
          Quote: Arthur Evnevich
          ... On the same topic: why did they begin to celebrate Victory Day in the Second World War with a ribbon under the strange name "St. George's"? .. And why didn’t they name it as it should according to HISTORICAL justice: "ribbon of the Order of Glory"? ..

          In Soviet times, this ribbon was called the "Guards", I once took the oath in the Navy with such a ribbon on a peakless cap.


          Yes of course! The amendment is accepted!
      2. +1
        19 March 2018 18: 48
        Quote: Arthur Evnevich
        ... On the same topic: why did they begin to celebrate Victory Day in the Great Patriotic War with a ribbon under the strange name "St. George's"? .. And why didn’t they name it as it should according to HISTORICAL justice: "ribbon of the Order of Glory"? .. Question to backfill ... But I will tell you especially stubborn lovers of bakery crunch and other "historical restorers": the question is - everything is on the same topic ...

        And what difference does it make? Do you think that if it was called the guards it would not be banned in Ukraine?
        1. +1
          21 March 2018 04: 57
          There is a difference. And in a sense, my kament was dedicated to her alone. In short: there is desovetization (decommunization). Both in the Russian Federation, and in Ukraine. Yes, and throughout the "CIS". In particular, the Russophobe (Yarosh, Aven, Korchinsky, Chubais, Kolomoisky, Kokh, Yushchenko, Sobchak, Teliga, Sakharov, etc.), who is interested in making his fight against the Russian people effective, should be an anti-communist. Just as a demolitionist, wanting to effectively overwhelm a building, does not lay a landmine at all, but under load-bearing supports. And vice versa. A smart anti-communist, not a banal planter with a whip, but an anti-communist intellectual (approximately like the same gruppenführer Müller from "17MB"), wherever he lives on Earth, in whatever language he thinks, he will calmly die only knowing that he is not with the Poles , not with the Australians, not with the Armenians, etc., but it is with the Russians — that is finally over. On the topic of the ribbon, this debate goes on and will go on as long as there will be people who do not understand what Teligi and Müllers understood very well. And Brzezinski. Why is there such a dependency? .. An extensive and deep topic ... Revealing the simple truth that history lives in nations and moves with IDEAS. Personally, you can disagree with everything written above, especially since how do I know, maybe you are just the anti-communist. I hope that this is not so.
  3. +4
    17 March 2018 07: 22
    Alexander is sent to the 2nd battalion of the 254th Guards Regiment of the 91st Brigade of the 6th Stalinist Corps.

    In the 91-separate rifle brigade there was no regiment neither with such number, nor with any other. There were generally no state regiments in it, only separate battalions. Sailors was sent to one of them, namely to the 2nd separate rifle battalion.
    1. +3
      17 March 2018 08: 36
      Quote: x917nt
      Alexander is sent to the 2nd battalion of the 254th Guards Regiment of the 91st Brigade of the 6th Stalinist Corps.

      In the 91-separate rifle brigade there was no regiment neither with such number, nor with any other. There were generally no state regiments in it, only separate battalions. Sailors was sent to one of them, namely to the 2nd separate rifle battalion.

      Why are you digging in dirty laundry? What do you want to find and prove?
      1. avt
        +10
        17 March 2018 09: 31
        Quote: free
        Why are you digging in dirty laundry? What do you want to find and prove?

        No. Sloppiness in trifles allows you to erase the very historical fact of the Feat! That in OUR memory since the time of the hunchback has been done more than once. Recall the mockery of 28 Panfilov’s reluctance? They also started with tsifiri.
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        1. +2
          17 March 2018 12: 47
          I consider actions such as you to be dirt, those who, under the guise of "truth-tellers", are trying to denigrate our common victories, downplay the merits of our common heroes. Those that act in the context of saying that "Russian barbarians, where they got victories from, are they all by accident or get drunk! "These attempts to denigrate vile things, these clings to individual numbers and words are petty.
          1. +2
            17 March 2018 13: 11
            Quote: free
            trying to denigrate our common victories, downplay the merits of our common heroes.

            My quote, please, where I was trying to denigrate something or someone of the above.
            1. +3
              17 March 2018 13: 16
              If you seek out inaccuracies you try not to allow them yourself. But the direction of your thoughts is felt unequivocally. No!? So explain why this meticulous digging in numbers and dates? Not the first time you do it!
              1. +5
                17 March 2018 14: 38
                The authors made an obvious mistake. This is what I pointed out.
                So where is the dirt or blackening from me towards Matrosov or any of the Soviet fighters that you attributed to me here? Or, as comments on the article, only enthusiastic and laudatory statements in the form of oaths of allegiance to the cause of veterans are allowed, and the discussion of the article itself is prohibited?
                1. +3
                  17 March 2018 14: 57
                  avt Today, 09:31 ↑
                   Sloppiness in the details, allows you to erase the very historical fact of the Feat! That in OUR memory since the time of the hunchback has been done more than once. Recall the mockery of 28 Panfilov’s reluctance? They also started with tsifiri.
                  So see?
                  1. +3
                    17 March 2018 16: 11
                    Quote: free
                    Sloppiness in trifles allows you to erase the very historical fact of the Feat!

                    Report this to the authors of the article. That they suffer from sloppiness in the details.
                    The first “mock” of the Panfilov’s was the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office 70 years ago, in 1948
                    Tie with a flood.
                    So see?
                    1. +2
                      17 March 2018 21: 02
                      Quote: x917nt
                      Quote: free
                      Sloppiness in trifles allows you to erase the very historical fact of the Feat!

                      Report this to the authors of the article. That they suffer from sloppiness in the details.
                      The first “mock” of the Panfilov’s was the Main Military Prosecutor’s Office 70 years ago, in 1948
                      Tie with a flood.
                      So see?

                      There is nothing to blame if the erysipelas are crooked.
              2. +2
                17 March 2018 19: 19
                Quote: free
                But the direction of your thoughts is felt unequivocally. No!? So explain why this meticulous digging in numbers and dates?

                Probably because it is a historical article, and if someone has an actual addition, he has the right to voice them. Flood ends, refute with facts and figures, if you do not agree.
          2. +1
            17 March 2018 19: 16
            Quote: free
            I consider dirt as actions by people like you, those who, under the guise of "truth-tellers", are trying to denigrate our common victories and downplay the merits of our common heroes.

            Stand on the podium, otherwise it is hard to hear.
            1. +1
              17 March 2018 21: 01
              Quote: Prometey
              Quote: free
              I consider dirt as actions by people like you, those who, under the guise of "truth-tellers", are trying to denigrate our common victories and downplay the merits of our common heroes.

              Stand on the podium, otherwise it is hard to hear.

              You hear your conscience badly, but you heard me once in a hurry with refutations.
      3. BAI
        +6
        17 March 2018 12: 45
        Why are you digging in dirty laundry? What do you want to find and prove?

        Inaccuracy in the details gives rise to ill-wishers to question all the work. It is unacceptable.
        1. Cat
          +1
          18 March 2018 05: 04
          Quote: BAI
          Why are you digging in dirty laundry? What do you want to find and prove?

          Inaccuracy in the details gives rise to ill-wishers to question all the work. It is unacceptable.

          First of all, this is an occasion for discussion. Everything, literally everything is not possible to know. Mistakes have been made and are made by many venerable academics, and it is simply not reasonable to require a journalist who works with sources of second and third order. Moreover, a similar mistake was made in their works by professors of history and academicians of the Russian Academy of Sciences, even one minister of culture.
          So “but the truth is more expensive” is good, but why create enemies instead of friends? Alexei You surprise me! Moreover, Free Rights is not the first time you are doing this.
  4. +3
    17 March 2018 07: 42
    For me, all our warriors who defended their native land are holy ...
  5. +4
    17 March 2018 07: 50
    On the content of the article and the submission of the material there is nothing to add !!!
    Very nice cycle!
  6. +8
    17 March 2018 08: 04
    In April of the 1943 of the year, the 74 and 91 brigades were sent for reformation in the 4 kilometers south of the city of Gzhatsk. In May 1943, these two brigades in the 6 corps were transformed into the 56 Guards Rifle Division, which included the 254 Guards Regiment, formed on the basis of the 91 brigade. The regiment was awarded the battle flag. In June 1943, the regiment received a decree on conferring the title of Hero of the Soviet Union on Matrosov.

    On 8 of September 1943, by order of the People’s Commissar of Defense 254, the Guards regiment was named after Hero of the Soviet Union, Private Alexander Matrosov. By this order, Alexander Matrosov was forever enlisted in the 1 lists of the 254 company of the Alexander Matrosov Guards Rifle Regiment.
  7. +4
    17 March 2018 09: 36
    Our dead will not leave us in trouble. Our Fallen are like sentries ... Authors, plus, definitely!
  8. +3
    17 March 2018 10: 21
    So, in the fate of one nineteen-year-old soldier, the fates of many famous and nameless heroes of that war crossed. 75 years ago, a Bashkir with a Russian surname performed a feat, which was subsequently repeated by more than 200 people

    So the Buryat divisions were and are !!
    Chezh Bandera advise? - Lie down and die
    1. 0
      17 March 2018 17: 13
      No. Oh, I would not advise to meet with the Buryat special forces. I'm not kidding. The guys are really great fighters. Prepared and capable of a lot.
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    1. 0
      17 March 2018 17: 15
      What is easier to take and read the Soviet textbook for high school
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    1. BAI
      +1
      17 March 2018 12: 54
      February 12, 1943 as part of a marching company Red Army Arrives in Brigade Sailors. Alexander directed serve as an automatic rifleman of the 2nd separate infantry battalion (osb). It is an honor. Then only every fifth infantryman received a machine gun, the rest were still armed with rifles. At 6 sk there were 36 personnel, with 130 armed with rifles and only 24 with machine guns644. According to the requirements of the Combat Charter, "an automatic machine gunner may be only the best, best fighter. Speed, courage, surprise and independence in actions must always accompany a machine gunner."
    2. +1
      18 March 2018 00: 07
      Quote: Almera
      By whom and to what position are they assigned? He did not graduate from an allegedly infantry school. Not sent, but called up for service. I did not read the article further.

      The fact that he did not finish school is not his fault. And cadets are military men with ranks! Therefore, DIRECT, not call !!!
  12. +1
    17 March 2018 11: 25
    The article is a fat minus.
    1. +2
      18 March 2018 00: 10
      Quote: Almera
      The article is a fat minus.

      Maybe they will return the cons? And so just unfounded to you one cons!
  13. +5
    17 March 2018 13: 07
    Turner 6 category? This is generally the highest qualification, which is probably achieved not earlier than by the age of 35, or even later .. Well, the Sailors could not have rank 6 in any way. At this age, the maximum rank is 2 or 3.
    This is by no means a rebuke, but an inaccuracy is striking.
  14. +1
    17 March 2018 14: 36
    2 May the Banner of Victory was raised not over the Reich Chancellery, but over the Reistag ... But the author’s mistake does not detract from the deed of Matrosov. By the way, about political instructor Po (a) Nkratov, a poster was issued in the USSR (there was a series about the various exploits of our soldiers in the war), where his exploit is described in detail. I don’t know if he was awarded, but he is marked in the lists of war heroes.
    1. +1
      17 March 2018 17: 17
      And the Hero was given a year later ...
  15. 0
    17 March 2018 14: 46
    The article is certainly wonderful! And the topic is raised in it, one of the key for Russia! But I would like to point out another important side for all of us, especially on the eve of the elections, about our future path. Not for birch trees and sunsets and blue eyes heroes lie on embrasures (well, think about it yourself?), Lie down for faith! For faith in a better life on earth, in a country that will necessarily come after their sacrifice. Otherwise, why sacrifice if nothing changes? Donate for justice. This eternal idea of ​​the Russian world is justice and faith! True, the power-holders like to fool the Russian eccentric, promising him a bright future, there is no money, but you are holding on ... So, whatever projects the presidential candidates would nominate, but this people and this country are predetermined, probably by God himself, to live only in a society of social justice, without oligarchs, bureaucrats-thieves, privatizators-ghouls. No matter how many "civilizers" come up with different mules for us about foreign paradise for universal human beings, our path will lie only along the track of social justice, apparently, God wills it.
    1. 0
      17 March 2018 16: 23
      sib.ataman
      True, the power-holders like to fool the Russian eccentric, promising him a bright future, there is no money, but you stay here.

      And if so: by 1980 we will build communism (Khrushchev)
      by 2000, each family will receive an apartment (Gorbachev)
  16. +3
    17 March 2018 15: 24
    Personally, the nationality of the hero is not important to me. At that time, everyone was Soviet citizens. I have a Tatar friend and a Bashkir colleague. And I, in general, never had any kind of discomfort in communicating with them. Something like this!
  17. 0
    17 March 2018 16: 21
    Getting ready. When will a monument be demolished in Dnepropetrovsk? Now Bandera himself ordered.
    1. 0
      18 March 2018 21: 09
      Quote: aleks700
      When will a monument be demolished in Dnepropetrovsk?

      First, they demolished Dnepropetrovsk, only the Dnieper remained ...
      1. 0
        19 March 2018 04: 44
        This is for Bandera Dnepr, And for normal people Dnepropetrovsk. Was and will be.
        1. 0
          19 March 2018 04: 46
          Quote: aleks700
          And for normal people, Dnepropetrovsk. Was and will be.

          And for those who live abroad and for younger generations? And why not Yekaterinoslav? Great name for a great city.
          1. 0
            19 March 2018 10: 40
            Why? The name is not bad. Who remembers him besides the two of us? And everyone knows Dnepropetrovsk.
            1. 0
              19 March 2018 10: 45
              Quote: aleks700
              And everyone knows Dnepropetrovsk.

              Unfortunately, we are replaced by those who do not remember this
              1. 0
                19 March 2018 20: 05
                And I remember Stalingrad!
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                  19 March 2018 20: 20
                  Quote: Alexey Z
                  And I remember Stalingrad!

                  Congratulations. But do you remember Tsaritsyn?
  18. +3
    17 March 2018 17: 49
    The feat of A. Matrosov is immortal, the authors' attempt to defend the hero is a good thing, but the series of articles is damp ..., but the plus is all the same .. hi
  19. +4
    17 March 2018 18: 34
    Quote: faiver
    The feat of A. Matrosov is immortal, the authors' attempt to defend the hero is a good thing, but the series of articles is damp ..., but the plus is all the same .. hi

    The feat was !! A. Sailors is not a fictional character? How many years have passed? and in general, what right we have to discuss what our parents did. They are WINNERS !!! and only that GREAT victory belongs to them, and our business is to remember !!! and not to forget !!!
  20. +4
    18 March 2018 00: 16
    6th category of a turner !?
    If this is even true, then this is a reservation and no one will send him to the front for fear of punishment.
    Turners of the 6th category in the rear solved where the tasks are more important than the infantry at the front.
    And the damage from their work was much more to the enemy.
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  22. +1
    18 March 2018 14: 18
    Quote: Kyzmich
    6th category of a turner !?
    If this is even true, then this is a reservation and no one will send him to the front for fear of punishment.

    At that time, the categories were 12-14th, and the 6th approximately corresponded to the 2nd-3rd. by ETKS, after the crap.
  23. +2
    18 March 2018 20: 27
    The first to accomplish a feat was a Jew! Private 679 rifle regiment Abram Isaakovich Levin accomplished his feat on February 22, 1942 - a year before the deed of Matrosov, in the battle for the village of Khomets of the Kalinin Region, he closed the embrasure of the DZOT with his body. He was not given the title of Hero; he was posthumously awarded the Order of the Patriotic War only in 1967. During the war, nine Jewish wars accomplished such a feat. Due to anti-Semitism, many Jews were not given the title of hero.
    1. 0
      18 March 2018 20: 35
      Quote: Victor19
      The first to accomplish a feat was a Jew! Private 679 rifle regiment Abram Isaakovich Levin accomplished his feat on February 22, 1942 - a year before the deed of Matrosov, in the battle for the village of Khomets of the Kalinin Region, he closed the embrasure of the DZOT with his body.

      I do not underestimate the feat of this fighter of the Red Army, but the first such feat was back in 1941 ...
      The first in the history of the Great Patriotic War, Alexander Pankratov, the junior political instructor of a tank company, closed the embrasure of Dota with his body. This happened a year and a half before the famous battle near the village of Chernushki - 24 August 1941 year - on the island of Nelezen, which is located on the Volkhov River. On the island, the Germans set up a bridgehead for firing on Veliky Novgorod ...
      Quote: Victor19
      He was not given the title of Hero; he was posthumously awarded the Order of the Patriotic War only in 1967.

      Then it was far from an isolated case and it is difficult for me to find an explanation for this ...
      ..... machine gunner of the 28th Guards Rifle Regiment of the 10th Guards Rifle Division Pavel Streltsov gloriously fought and was awarded the Star of the Hero. And on October 26, 1944, near a small settlement near the Norwegian Kirkenes, he died, rushing to the embrasure, but he was not awarded for this feat of self-sacrifice.
      .... Private Leonty Yakovlevich Tupitsyn performed his feat on January 24, 1944 in the Tosno region of the Leningrad Region. In Soviet times, the hero was never awarded. Forgot! And only on May 6, 1994, thanks to a letter from his fellow soldier, Tupitsyn was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of Russia.
    2. 0
      18 March 2018 22: 40
      Quote: Victor19
      Due to anti-Semitism, many Jews were not given the title of hero.

      Well, why talk language, in the USSR in those years, especially during the war, they did not hear about anti-Semitism. Look on the Internet how many Jews became heroes of the Soviet Union.
      1. +1
        18 March 2018 22: 50
        Even as they heard! And you talk with your tongue - you. So, the head of the Main Political Administration of the Red Army, Colonel General Shcherbakov, issued a directive in early 1943: "Reward representatives of all nationalities, but Jews - on a limited basis." A number of Jewish heroes of the USSR were awarded the title tens of years after the end of the war, when they themselves were no longer alive (Isai Kazinets, Lev Manevich, Shika Kordonsky), and many, despite repeated submissions, the title of Hero was never awarded ( Eugene Volyansky, Isaac Presaisen, Ion Degen, Benjamin Mindlin, Semyon Fischelson and others - only 49 people). Five times represented the commander of the partisan detachment named after Hero of the Soviet Union. Voroshilov Evgeny Fedorovich Miranovich (Evgeni Finkelshtein).
        1. +1
          19 March 2018 04: 23
          Quote: Victor19
          So, the head of the Main Political Administration of the Red Army, Colonel General Shcherbakov, issued a directive in early 1943

          Yes, these are the interesting things ... he became Colonel General in SEPTEMBER 1943 ...
          from 06.12.1942/17.09.1943/XNUMX Gen.-Leith., from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX Gen.-Paulк
          Quote: Victor19
          issued at the beginning of 1943 the directive: “To reward representatives of all nationalities, but Jews - to a limited extent”

          You represent how many in the Red Army were people of Jewish nationality and how many of them worked in the headquarters and in the same GlaPur, how do you think, having read this, how would they feel? And where could it be READ, this directive?
          I’ll tell you right away - NEVER WHERE. GlavPur could not issue such a directive.
        2. 0
          19 March 2018 20: 03
          Quote: Victor19
          Colonel General Shcherbakov, the head of the Main Political Directorate of the Red Army, issued a directive in early 1943: "Reward representatives of all nationalities, but only limited Jews."

          Give this directive, I deeply doubt something that it says so.

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