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In Israel approved the purchase of Eitan BTR and the development of a new ACS

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The Israeli government approved the plan of the Ministry of Defense to strengthen the Ground Forces: the purchase of hundreds of wheeled armored personnel carriers "Eitan" and the development of a new ACS, reports bmpd.




“The development department is engaged in the creation of the Eitan armored personnel carrier tank "Merkava" and BTT at the Defense Ministry (MANTAK). The BTR should go into series with 2020 to partially replace the M113 BTR. The Ministry of Defense declares that Eitan will be the most advanced and most protected wheeled armored personnel carrier in the world. It will have a KAZ similar to that installed on the Bamer "Namer" and the Merkava-4 tank, as well as other special protection systems, ”the publication said.

The machine is based on the principle of open architecture, which makes it possible to simply integrate with it new systems and weapons in the future.

Creating a new ACS is engaged in the R & D Management (MAFAT). It is planned that the self-propelled gun will begin to enter service in the next decade to replace the ACS M109.

Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman:

The procurement project was approved unanimously, and now it can be announced that substantial improvements will be made in the IDF ground forces over the course of a decade. For the first time, we will provide the IDF with hundreds of wheeled armored personnel carriers with an active defense system and other advanced capabilities. A real revolution will also occur in the artillery troops. There was approved a project to develop a new generation of tools. In ten years, ground forces will look completely different. More efficient, faster, more technological. In addition, these solutions will be a real help for local industry, from Kiryat Shmona to settlements on the border with the Gaza Strip, which will participate in the development and production of products, totaling billions of shekels over ten years.
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  1. Firework
    Firework 13 March 2018 12: 14
    +1
    this armored personnel carrier hit from RPG can sustain? Jews traditionally have their own well-armed equipment.
    1. Maz
      Maz 13 March 2018 12: 17
      +9
      It will survive, do not be afraid, there is a naphano of protection against RPGs and ATGMs for the very tomatoes. The question is different, in the peace of Israel, which he is so proud of ... Why should a peaceful state arm itself with such means of attack. BO: The main purpose of the armored personnel carrier is to deliver infantry to the battlefield, support by fire and evacuate the wounded ... Why should the infantry be brought somewhere from safe Israel? Likely to have a picnic to the neighbors ... not otherwise. why go to the neighbors on an armored personnel carrier? Are there buses, rav kav for a month, libraries at stops? Probably again humanitarian aid will be taken to Syria, planes flew off, missiles too. Remained art. Oh well.
      1. Firework
        Firework 13 March 2018 12: 18
        +1
        and with simultaneous shelling from different angles? and with a broken KAZ?
      2. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 13 March 2018 12: 29
        +1
        Quote: Maz
        Why should a peaceful state arm itself with such means of attack? The main purpose of the armored personnel carrier is to deliver infantry to the battlefield, support by fire and evacuation of the wounded ... Why should the infantry be brought somewhere from safe Israel? Likely to have a picnic to the neighbors ... not otherwise.

        They identified a new capital, to the neighbors .... not otherwise. Carry infantry, and the wounded ... soldier soldier soldier
      3. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 13 March 2018 12: 31
        +4
        And this:
        Defense Ministry says Eitan will be the most advanced and most protected wheeled armored personnel carrier in the world.

        It is a synonym for "nonsense". Well, how gentlemen are the Jews? Do you find yourself also having "no analogues in the world"?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 March 2018 12: 34
          +5
          Analogues - wheeled armored personnel carrier - is complete.
          But with KAZs - very little.
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 13 March 2018 12: 36
            +1
            Warrior, do not go away from the direct question of verbiage. I said that the words of your Secretary of Defense are synonymous with "having no analogues in the world." So why aren't you joking?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 March 2018 12: 39
              +4
              "the most advanced" and "unparalleled in the world" - not
              are synonyms.
              There are three products - analogues. One of them is the most advanced. Or the second (who thinks).
              What's so incomprehensible? winked
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 13 March 2018 12: 42
                +3
                First, understand the concept of SYNONYMS, words are different in spelling, but the same in meaning. Unparalleled - no one has it.
                Liberman’s words - the most advanced and most protected in the world, no one has it. Fershteen? Analogue, analogous, SAME. I do not hear laughter and mockery at the words of your MO.
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 13 March 2018 13: 03
                  +2
                  Sorry, Nicht Furstein hi
                  1. cats
                    cats 13 March 2018 17: 21
                    +3
                    The best.. lol
                    Or is it possible for the Jews? repeat
                2. Oleg7700
                  Oleg7700 13 March 2018 15: 04
                  +3
                  “Declares” bmpd, citing Oleg Granovsky, who allegedly cites a statement by the press service of the Ministry of Defense (not Lieberman) in the usual, most often inadequate re-singing from Hebrew of Russian-speaking Israeli media.
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 13 March 2018 19: 32
                    0
                    Why are you immediately refusing? I'm not talking about armored car shit. Perhaps he is the best in the world. I am talking about "selectivity", double standards.
                3. KonoGon
                  KonoGon 13 March 2018 15: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  I do not hear laughter and mockery at the words of your MO.
                  will the most advanced and most protected wheeled armored personnel carrier in the world. That is, they will have analogues in the future, but not now. And so, yes, your truth.
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 13 March 2018 19: 34
                    0
                    I am not against armored personnel carriers, I repeat that perhaps the best in the world, which has no analogues now. I am against selectivity.
                    1. KonoGon
                      KonoGon 13 March 2018 20: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Okolotochny
                      I am against selectivity
                      I understand, although you yourself know who started wink hi
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 14 March 2018 07: 44
                        0
                        Do you mean Mattresses? laughing good hi
      4. Essex62
        Essex62 13 March 2018 12: 38
        +2
        Fighting is better to conduct on foreign territory and with little blood. All right. It is difficult to be peaceful when the neighbors dream of devouring. We have the same fate.
      5. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 13 March 2018 12: 39
        +8
        Quote: Maz
        It will survive, do not be afraid, there is a naphano of protection against RPGs and ATGMs for the very tomatoes. The question is different, in the peace of Israel, which he is so proud of ... Why should a peaceful state arm itself with such means of attack. BO: The main purpose of the armored personnel carrier is to deliver infantry to the battlefield, support by fire and evacuate the wounded ... Why should the infantry be brought somewhere from safe Israel? Likely to have a picnic to the neighbors ... not otherwise. why go to the neighbors on an armored personnel carrier? Are there buses, rav kav for a month, libraries at stops? Probably again humanitarian aid will be taken to Syria, planes flew off, missiles too. Remained art. Oh well.

        Maz, the main thing is not to worry. Nobody will reduce your old age allowance. So our army does not concern you sideways.
        1. Maz
          Maz 13 March 2018 13: 05
          +1
          Well, how can I not worry, you’ll stick into Syria, and the NS warned that if anyone sticks around, then we’ll enter not only by means of delivery, but also by carriers, and I have children here. But little does not seem, I know. So without golden cabinets we’ll figure it out. And then you will have no one Keren Ishtalmud to pay for poverty in disability benefits, In your army. And no KAZ will save. And by the way, right now your army concerns all the neighbors, despite its microscopic nature .., What, is there little territory? Or gasoline prices in Jordan prick? Liter 1 shekel sixty garden - half a dollar, in Israel - 6 shekels. More than in America. Almost two bucks.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 13 March 2018 13: 15
            +3
            Quote: Maz
            Well, how can I not worry, you’ll stick into Syria, and the NS warned that if anyone sticks around, then it’s not only delivery vehicles, but also carriers, but I have children here. But it won’t seem a little, I know that. So without golden cabinets we’ll figure it out. And then you will have no one Keren Ishtalmud to pay for poverty in disability benefits, In your army. And no KAZ will save. And by the way, right now your army concerns all the neighbors, despite its microscopic nature .., What, is there little territory?

            It will be necessary. Fuck on us. Received in response. If it’s hard for you here, you can safely pick up the children and go to your homeland. You are not kept in chains here. Departure is free. And the policy of Israel does not concern you at all.
            1. Maz
              Maz 13 March 2018 13: 16
              +1
              Fuck and for me. As for the. Are you sick of this? Humble yourself wherever I want and live free, entry is free :) laughing . And you only have enough Brains for American promises. And you will be overwhelmed with advice - go, fight with the orthodox - death. Grown parasites.

              On Tuesday, as part of the teachings of the Logistics Directorate throughout the country, two air defense sirens “Tseva Hell” will be sounded - at 11:05 and at 19:05.

              The warning about the siren will be sent to all electronic mass media, on television and on the radio, citizens will receive a message on the phones, in applications and on the website of the Logistics Directorate.

              Management reminds that in the event of a real attack, the siren will sound twice and the corresponding message will appear in the media.


              There is no such thing in Russia
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 13 March 2018 13: 29
                +5
                Quote: Maz
                Fuck and for me. As for the. Are you sick of this? Humble yourself wherever I want and live free, entry is free :) laughing . And you only have enough Brains for American promises. And you will be overwhelmed with advice - go, fight with the orthodox - death. Grown parasites.

                Live it. Suffer I do not care. Moreover, you import money from Russia to Israel.
                PS Orthodox are our parasites, they do not concern you.
      6. igor67
        igor67 13 March 2018 17: 10
        +4
        Quote: Maz
        Why should a peaceful state arm itself so

        in 2014-
        Golani soldiers killed in an armored personnel carrier of an outdated model
        The armored personnel carrier, in which seven servicemen of the Golani brigade died last night, was an old model - this was announced on Sunday, July 20, the Haaretz publication reported.

        According to the source, we are talking about the M-113 armored personnel carrier - this is the oldest model currently in service with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Armored personnel carriers of this brand began to produce in the United States, and they first came to Israel in 1971. Some of them have been used for several decades.
        High-ranking officers sharply criticized the decision to send obsolete armored vehicles to the Gaza Strip, to the area where the heaviest battles were expected. Moreover, the Golani brigade has newer and much better protected vehicles - heavy Akhzarit armored personnel carriers and modernized Hamers, which is why the article says to replace obsolete 113 m,
      7. Spike Javelin Touvich
        Spike Javelin Touvich 13 March 2018 23: 26
        0
        But didn’t you think about selling it?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 13 March 2018 23: 34
          0
          Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
          But didn’t you think about selling it?

          Our army is fighting on cardboard. Not up to the sale.
    2. Vard
      Vard 13 March 2018 12: 24
      +2
      It depends on where to shoot ... if it’s stupidly on board ... then yes ... it will withstand ... but if it’s on the way ... then it’s a completely different matter ... The car is high ... getting into is not a problem ...
      1. Firework
        Firework 13 March 2018 12: 29
        +1
        in 2006, Israeli tanks in Lebanon often burned when hit from grenade launchers and ATGMs, and this is a tank weighing 60 tons, but here just a wheeled armored personnel carrier can not believe that it is sufficiently protected against cumulative warheads. The same goes for mine protection
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 March 2018 12: 35
          +4
          In 2006 there were no KAZs on tanks.
          1. Firework
            Firework 13 March 2018 12: 38
            0
            KAZ is vulnerable to small arms fire and especially heavy machine guns?
            Imagine a situation, a column of Israeli equipment is ambushed. The front car is blown up by a landmine and, using the closing bar, open heavy fire from machine guns and RPGs, which is guaranteed to put it out of action, it will be difficult to escape from this trap and the KAZ of other cars will also be swept away by machine gun fire and they will finish off the equipment from RPGs and ATGMs
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 March 2018 13: 05
              +6
              Add more heavy artillery and nuclear weapons, and the meaninglessness of the KAZs will become even more obvious. smile
              1. Firework
                Firework 13 March 2018 13: 07
                +1
                but the weapons that I have listed terrorists can bring with them, it is quite light
            2. Wilderness
              Wilderness 13 March 2018 13: 35
              +1
              And if the situation is: the front car is blown up on a land mine, the next one after it crashes into her ass (I block the ramp)? Can I get out only through the upper hatch (judging by the photo - small)? The whole department, in turn, to the full height (well, to the waist for sure), with a rather high height of the car? With a working KAZ? The enemy may not have nuclear weapons and heavy artillery, only a bunch of explosives and old Kalash?
            3. Korax71
              Korax71 13 March 2018 20: 47
              +1
              Do you think that the tanks will just stand and wait for them to be burned? such tactics are good either in mountainous areas or in dense urban areas. and a wagon has already been developed for counteracting methods.
        2. Vard
          Vard 13 March 2018 12: 38
          +1
          Mina is likely to withstand ... V shaped bottom ... but RPGs without gratings are unlikely ...
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 13 March 2018 12: 49
      +2
      Well, now Israel will move the Egyptian pyramids to "liberate." They will avenge the expulsion of Moses, and Giza will be proclaimed their third capital. winked
    4. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 13 March 2018 13: 02
      +3
      A hit from the old RPG-7 of the 60s can and will withstand, but a nuclear strike from Iran - no.
      All this "superprotected" and "unparalleled" technique is good for children with stones and Molotov cocktails to disperse ....
      Leoperd 2 was also considered invincible (like the Tiger and Panther, once), and there, they burn for a sweet soul in a war against a semi-literate militia.
      1. Korax71
        Korax71 13 March 2018 20: 57
        +1
        Tell this to 131 brigades about children with stones and bottles and about a semi-literate militia. Any technique is defenseless in case of poor crew training or improper use.
  2. Dormidont
    Dormidont 13 March 2018 12: 21
    +3
    Stopudovo vs. Palestinian Tank Wedges
    1. stone
      stone 13 March 2018 12: 50
      +5
      Dude changed his account, and this phrase as it imprints in almost every thread about Israel, so it imprints, it's not the first year in my opinionwink Only graduation changes! Not tired, dear! lol
  3. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 March 2018 12: 25
    +5
    As always, a double-decker car, not an armored personnel carrier! The trend is such a stupid one, in the whole world, to make good targets, instead of normal baeters. Is the crew and the landing there clearly standing?
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 13 March 2018 12: 34
      +5
      Israel has all the large machines of its own design. Hanged “dynamo protection” on “puff pies” Everything for maximum protection of the crew and the landing force. KAZ on the bat is cool. And very expensive. Well, the war among Jews is specific and there are few people, they need it so much.
    2. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 13 March 2018 13: 14
      +5
      In vain you worry about the height, the height of the inhabited compartment (which is the most dangerous hit) is not much more than usual there (although a different approach to anthropometry is also present), but under the inhabited compartment any "shmurdyak" in which if they get into is not so critical. And from the mines the landing and the crew away.
      In addition, the placement of new DZ blocks requires space so that not any RPG can take it.
      And yet, everyone was fixated on RPGs (whose accuracy is so-so), and the main task for the future is protection against ATGMs. Modern ATGMs do not care, 1,5 meters target height or 2, guidance systems are completely different steel.
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 13 March 2018 17: 48
        +3
        Quote: Dreamboat
        In vain you worry about the height, the height of the inhabited compartment (which is the most dangerous hit) there is not much more than usual

        With increasing height, the center of gravity shifts. The car becomes less stable at the same bends or slopes.
        Quote: Dreamboat
        And yet, everyone was fixated on RPGs (whose accuracy is so-so), and the main task for the future is protection against ATGMs. Modern ATGMs do not care, 1,5 meters target height or 2, guidance systems are completely different steel.

        Systems are systems, but it’s easier to hide a XNUMX-meter armored personnel carrier than a two-meter one. In addition, transportability (air and sea) is lame. For Israel, this is of course not critical, but for Russia, for example, it’s a hindrance.
  4. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 13 March 2018 12: 41
    +5
    About him there have already been several articles on HE:
    https://topwar.ru/99153-izrail-predstavil-novyy-b
    ronetransporter-eytan.html

    https://topwar.ru/113118-novosti-proekta-btr-eyta
    n-izrail.html
    Field tests of the wheeled armored personnel carrier "Eitan"

    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 13 March 2018 12: 49
      +3
      Our people still look more elegant and pleasing to the eye. And KAZ is a matter of time.
    2. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 March 2018 12: 50
      +4
      Interior. Pictures are not new. This is also a prototype for testing.

  5. Des10
    Des10 13 March 2018 12: 51
    +4
    smile There is something similar now with us: Israel and Russia.
    Around there are many envious, spiteful and simply wishing us.rat ()).
    Therefore, all attention is given to the army.
    Well done.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 13 March 2018 13: 10
    +3
    It’s a pity they didn’t write what kind of self-propelled guns will be - tracked or wheeled.
    We would have a new caterpillar with a semi-automatic charging, like Msta-S ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 March 2018 13: 17
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      It’s a pity they didn’t write what kind of self-propelled guns will be - tracked or wheeled.
      We would have a new caterpillar with a semi-automatic charging, like Msta-S ...

      Alas, the first 5 divisions will be wheeled. Then they plan to accept caterpillar options.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 13 March 2018 13: 40
        +4
        I still fear that the new Eitan will squeeze out Namer in the military budget.
        One at the expense of the other. Something I do not believe Eitan's patency
        enough in Lebanon, for example.
  7. Horst78
    Horst78 13 March 2018 13: 25
    +1
    Something Boxster recalls. Like a bunch of other armored vehicles divorced recently.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 13 March 2018 13: 30
      +3
      Quote: Horst78
      Something Boxster recalls. Like a bunch of other armored vehicles divorced recently.

      If it goes in this configuration, it will be better.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 13 March 2018 13: 38
        +1
        So I think, "Without a tower, no where." Nobody needs a grenade from the top (especially in the city).
    2. MadCat
      MadCat 14 March 2018 04: 34
      0
      Quote: Horst78
      Something Boxster recalls. Like a bunch of other armored vehicles divorced recently.

      this is a classic layout, they are all alike, only the devil is in the details wink
  8. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 13 March 2018 13: 27
    +2
    Everyone is doing the right thing in Israel (it’s a pity that we still don’t) any armored vehicles, now they must have both DZ and KAZ, otherwise they are just expensive moving targets at the enemy’s shooting range ...
  9. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 13 March 2018 14: 04
    +2
    Quote: Okolotochny
    Warrior, do not go away from the direct question of verbiage. I said that the words of your Secretary of Defense are synonymous with "having no analogues in the world." So why aren't you joking?

    Where did you see the direct polygonal? Question to question is their strategy, verbiage is tactics ...
    1. cats
      cats 13 March 2018 17: 37
      +5
      Even the unflappable Aron boiled .. request
      The professors are probably holding seven now ... lol
      Around now there is so much incomprehensible, and what will happen next ...
      Noticed that even aggressive Jewish provocateurs
      drove into the booth, if something did not work out .. wink
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 13 March 2018 19: 14
    0
    BTR "Eitan"
    How was the name chosen? Is this a strong strong man like that or also in memory of General Eitan?
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 March 2018 21: 07
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      BTR "Eitan"
      How was the name chosen? Is this a strong strong man like that or also in memory of General Eitan?

      Names of new military equipment are handled by the commercial sales department of the manufacturer. Naturally, such heroic pathos is seen in the names. The word "eitan" has many meanings, but they are all alike in direction: strong, stable, unshakable, strong, unbreakable, powerful, stable, solid, solid, confident, strong. Our blessed memory, General Raphael Eitan, was born as Raphael Kaminsky, and his mother, in general, was Orlova from the Russian Subbotnik.



      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 13 March 2018 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Our blessed memory, General Rafael Eitan, was born as Rafael Kaminsky, and his mother, in general, is nee Orlova from Russian subbotniks.

        Yes, I read about him.) If so, then if your armored personnel carrier enters the troops, our General Staff will christen it, in our opinion, simply “Eagle Stone”))).
      2. Firework
        Firework 13 March 2018 23: 46
        0
        great one word eitan, and meanings are darkness
  11. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 13 March 2018 20: 06
    +2
    Quote: Okolotochny
    Why are you immediately refusing? I'm not talking about armored car shit. Perhaps he is the best in the world. I am talking about "selectivity", double standards.

    Dear forum member! In the original Hebrew-language messages, most often there is nothing that is then broadcast (using Google translation and guesswork, for a true connoisseur costs money, and Hebrew Russian-speaking employees are weak ...) in usual terms, a completely different “conceptual” structure. This applies to almost all Israeli Russian-language media. Have a good week.
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 13 March 2018 21: 05
      +2
      Often they can’t normally translate from English either, although many people study it from school. What can we say about Hebrew yes
      1. Oleg7700
        Oleg7700 13 March 2018 21: 45
        +3
        It turns out that the quotation is not even the IDF press service, but "journalism", which, as always, are not responsible for anything, but issue their conclusions for officialdom:. https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=10
        01227296