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In the State Department talked about the consequences of the "Nord Stream-2" for the European Union and the United States

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The implementation of the project “Nord Stream 2” will mean large-scale geostrategic consequences for the EU and the USA, RIA News Statement by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Sandra Oudkirk




This will result in massive geostrategic consequences for several generations. Because it affects our partners, it will have an impact on us,
Oudkirk told reporters.

According to her, “it’s impossible to treat this project exclusively as a commercial one, since we are talking about money that will, among other things, come from the pockets of EU taxpayers”.

A representative of the ministry called the worst scenario for the United States "closing the market for alternative LNG and strengthening at the expense of" Nord Stream 2 "of Russian Gazprom - up to the monopolization of the market."

This will put our partners, in particular the Baltic countries, at risk
she added.

Recall that several countries oppose the project, in particular Ukraine, which is afraid of losing revenues from the transit of Russian gas, and the United States, which have big plans to export its liquefied fuel to Europe.
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  1. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 13 March 2018 10: 57
    +19
    The EU will be left without expensive LNG from the United States. It is worthy of sympathy ... for both.
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 13 March 2018 11: 00
      +17
      Germany considered the losses, including from possible sanctions by the United States, and made a unanimous decision - to be “Nord Stream”.
      And then there is the emerging economic war of the European Union-USA related to the introduction of tax duties.
      1. Nasrat
        Nasrat 13 March 2018 11: 04
        +15
        If the Germans miss this straw from Putin in the form of SP-2, then she will never see independence from the United States ...
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 13 March 2018 11: 09
          +5
          True, and the United States will therefore press the Germans to the last German.
        2. Berber
          Berber 13 March 2018 11: 10
          +6
          That's for sure. And if you do not dissemble, then they will depend more on us. Yes, and it is necessary to squeeze out striped from Europe, on all fronts.
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 13 March 2018 11: 44
            +1
            Quote: BerBer
            And if you do not dissemble, then they will depend more on

            and if you do not dissemble even more, then our penisioners and other alarm clocks will be more dependent on the Germans and Europe.
            1. Berber
              Berber 13 March 2018 16: 52
              0
              Enough is enough. We drove this record.
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 13 March 2018 12: 05
            +1
            Quote: BerBer
            Yes, and it is necessary to squeeze out striped from Europe, on all fronts.

            this is true yes only the "front" is leaky
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 13 March 2018 12: 04
          0
          Quote: Nasr
          If the Germans miss this straw from Putin in the form of SP-2, then she will never see independence from the United States ...

          and it will not be until the gold reserves of Germany and striped. and they will never give it back
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 13 March 2018 13: 06
            0
            Half seemed to be taken home, for the rest, as it were, "the pan of the chieftain dumb gold reserve."
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 13 March 2018 13: 11
              0
              Quote: dzvero
              Half seemed to be taken home, for the rest, as it were, "the pan of the chieftain dumb gold reserve"

              they don’t even show him
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 March 2018 11: 16
      +12
      The USA does not have transport and infrastructure facilities.
      The funny thing is, but in order to fully cover Europe’s gas needs, the United States must drive 70 gas tankers a month. And the United States has only 12. There is also a need to pull up networks to 2-3 ports and re-equip the ports themselves on the East Coast.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 13 March 2018 11: 36
        +5
        Quote: Sith Lord
        The funny thing is, but in order to fully cover Europe’s gas needs, the United States must drive 70 gas tankers a month. And the United States has only 12 in stock.

        Hello, Sergey.
        Yes, funny. But the funniest thing is that the United States, which robbed "Europe", actually appropriated their gold reserves, imposed their discriminatory conditions and taxes on European products, suddenly became concerned about the money of the EU taxpayers. This is not insanity, but a direct mockery of the so-called European partners. wassat
      2. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 13 March 2018 11: 38
        +3
        For LNG from the USA to be equal in price to Gazprom's from the pipe, Trump needs to hire not tankers, but fairies with magic pollen and rainbow unicorns.
        1. Berber
          Berber 13 March 2018 16: 55
          +1
          And then everything is in Ukrainian - "not winter, so bite." First of all, they want to stop us from trading.
      3. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 13 March 2018 12: 50
        +4
        Quote: Sith Lord
        The funny thing is, but in order to fully cover Europe’s gas needs, the United States must drive 70 gas tankers a month. And the United States has only 12. There is also a need to pull up networks to 2-3 ports and re-equip the ports themselves on the East Coast.

        That's right, but ... if the United States managed to force the EU to phase out gas from Russia, with its replacement by American LNG, then there would be investors and investments in the construction of all the missing infrastructure. I really do not exclude that the builders of this major investment project would be from the States and Canada. For several years, if desired, everything necessary would be done. The fact that for the EU in every sense this LNG would become gold is another story.
      4. Valdemar One-type
        Valdemar One-type 19 March 2018 08: 29
        0
        and then Somali pirates will blow up 1 gas carrier and everything will be covered with a copper basin
    3. Finches
      Finches 13 March 2018 11: 18
      +2
      Like Zadornov’s there:"they have it there, everything is like we have in the zone. By the notions! Have you heard a song? ... All because of dibs! And don’t have to soar the octopus. And not only ours. I’ll answer!" - vaunted Western democracy, when 10% of the oligarchs dictate their conditions to 90% of the land, using tools such as, for example, the Armed Forces and only suckers believe that when they go to the polls, they decide something there ... laughing And the USA is generally an ordinary CJSC! The Germans, despite the fact that we are constantly fighting with them, I respect, but if they bend under the Anglo-Saxons in this matter, they will stand on a par with these ghouls!
  2. Altona
    Altona 13 March 2018 10: 58
    +10
    The USA is generally a strange country. They suggest using a gas spray in the presence of a powerful gas network.
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 13 March 2018 11: 21
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      The USA is generally a strange country. They suggest using a gas spray in the presence of a powerful gas network.

      + well noticed! laughing
      And at the same time they suck in a spray at the price of a gunny, and even if they want, they can bomb the oil prices and they can “tighten” the gas.
  3. smart ass
    smart ass 13 March 2018 10: 58
    +2
    It’s clear what the consequences are: a cheap gas is an efficient economy, funny Europeans. All contrary to the plans of the USA
  4. solzh
    solzh 13 March 2018 10: 58
    +5
    Nord Stream-2 is beneficial for both Russia and Europe. It is beneficial due to the ejection from the chain of a non-serious transit country in the form of Ukraine. Well, let the Baltic states buy gas from the United States.
  5. assa67
    assa67 13 March 2018 10: 59
    +15
    if taxpayer money doesn’t go into the US pocket, this is a threat to democracy
    1. assa67
      assa67 13 March 2018 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: assa67
      This will result in massive geostrategic consequences for several generations. Because it affects our partners, it will have an impact on us,

      Quote: assa67
      A spokeswoman for the agency called the worst-case scenario for the US “market closure for alternative LNG and reinforced by Nord Stream 2”

      as always care only about yourself
      1. helmi8
        helmi8 13 March 2018 11: 12
        0
        Quote: assa67
        Quote: assa67
        This will result in massive geostrategic consequences for several generations. Because it affects our partners, it will have an impact on us,
        Quote: assa67
        A spokeswoman for the agency called the worst-case scenario for the US “market closure for alternative LNG and reinforced by Nord Stream 2”
        as always care only about yourself

        They call this "competition" ... Intimidation, again, sanctions ... All measures are good, so as not to let anyone into the market. But then they broke off. Let the Baltic states and the Poles suck in their LNG.
    2. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 13 March 2018 11: 03
      +7
      But appreciate the argument!
      According to her, “it’s impossible to treat this project exclusively as a commercial one, since we are talking about money that will, among other things, come from the pockets of EU taxpayers”.
      winked Tell me something like this in negotiations, I would doubt the mental health of a potential partner .. lol
      1. assa67
        assa67 13 March 2018 11: 36
        +3
        "alternative LNG" ... WHAT is it alternative? ... so that it is mattress and expensive?
      2. cats
        cats 13 March 2018 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Tell me something like this in the negotiations, I would doubt the mental health of a potential partner.

        So first he says that this is a problem in Europe, then he nevertheless agrees
        what america .. laughing
        The American yolks are increasingly compressed by the aggressive paw of the Kremlin .. wassat
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 13 March 2018 11: 03
    +1
    The USA is a bunch of lying bastards doing business constantly under the guise of state interests ... the scandal with Siemens ended up (and therefore was inspired by the USA) that the General Electric will supply turbines (they have their own opinion on sanctions ... they are for suckers) .. . and the whole business problem has been solved perfectly ... exactly the same with gas ... there is a large-scale LNG project from the USA ... but it’s just one and a half times more expensive)) ... we need to squeeze out the competitors ... and here any means good ...
    1. taiga2018
      taiga2018 13 March 2018 11: 08
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      USA bunch of lying scum

      why be surprised, because these are the descendants of any European rabble: adventurers, adventurers, a quick way to get rich, plus the descendants of black slaves who believe that they owe everything to them ...
  7. Dormidont
    Dormidont 13 March 2018 11: 05
    +2
    What is bad for the State Department is good for Russia. And vice versa
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 March 2018 11: 06
    +1
    And then true intentions erupted. To capture the European market, the striped-eared do not disdain anything ...
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 March 2018 11: 06
    +6
    This will put our partners, in particular the Baltic countries, at risk.
    The ability to get cheap gas is a threat. That's just not for Europe, but for the United States with a few jackals. This is not just unfair competition, but a full-blown energy war declared by the Americans of Russia.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 13 March 2018 11: 23
      +6
      For how it sounds!
      This will put our partners, in particular the Baltic countries, at risk

      The states are so "worried" about triebalt that they can’t eat ... laughing
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 13 March 2018 11: 31
        +4
        Characterization
        triebalt
        I liked it very much. Pleased, thanks.
        1. BAI
          BAI 13 March 2018 13: 20
          +1
          It makes sense to quote.
  10. svp67
    svp67 13 March 2018 11: 10
    +1
    This will put our partners, in particular the Baltic countries, at risk
    How is this? They opened LNG terminals there, so let them buy it ...
  11. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 13 March 2018 11: 21
    0
    Where the United States can not win by economic methods, it involves politicians, special services and the military ....
  12. eugraphus
    eugraphus 13 March 2018 11: 35
    +1
    When Europe abandoned the South Stream, the Turks rejoiced and announced that Russia should extend this pipeline to them. And that they will sell to Europe at $ 500 per thousand cubic meters, and they will be very grateful to the Turks for this. Then this statement seemed very presumptuous, since gas to Europe went from us for 200 with something, and Ukraine demanded a discount of generally 100 with something. But when Ukraine this year bought from Poland at $ 1000 per 1000 cubic meters, then you understand that reality can be even cooler. And cheap gas is primarily a competitive economy.
  13. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 13 March 2018 11: 35
    0
    Here Merikos are worried for themselves, and not for their partners, that they will not be able to suck in Europe their gas! And if they are so compassionate, let them buy gas from the Nordic countries! They will support the allies, so to speak, in rubles! fellow
  14. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 13 March 2018 11: 54
    0
    This will put our partners, in particular the Baltic countries, at risk

    Will not endanger, but in a pose. Definitely!
  15. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 13 March 2018 12: 20
    0
    Quote: K.A.S.
    Quote: BerBer
    And if you do not dissemble, then they will depend more on

    and if you do not dissemble even more, then our penisioners and other alarm clocks will be more dependent on the Germans and Europe.

    And if you say it bluntly, it's not up to you to judge this! Defender of pensioners and state employees, damn it ...
  16. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 13 March 2018 12: 23
    0
    Quote: Masya Masya
    For how it sounds!
    This will put our partners, in particular the Baltic countries, at risk

    The states are so "worried" about triebalt that they can’t eat ... laughing

    Koshatnitsa, admins kick you, seeing a hidden obscenity ... You’d have learned how to use your brains ... I’m something ... but somehow ... for a trifle show off ...
  17. savage1976
    savage1976 13 March 2018 12: 48
    +1
    So Gazprom supplies pipe gas to Germany, and the Baltic zadoliz can safely buy LNG from the master, we don’t mind. Everyone is happy.
  18. faterdom
    faterdom 13 March 2018 14: 33
    +1
    That’s who is the owner of the money of German taxpayers! So worries for them-can not eat! It remains, too, all Europeans (and not only the most advanced vanguard of the Sumerians) to convince them to lower the temperature in their homes by 2-3 degrees every month!