The marines of the Pacific Fleet received a batch of new armored personnel carriers

Pacific Marines Brigade fleet replenished with 20 new BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, reports Interfax the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

It is reported that "practical training in the development of new technology will be held on March 16 at the Bamburovo training ground in Primorye."

Under the guidance of experienced instructors with crews of combat vehicles, they will conduct practical training on driving armored personnel carriers in difficult-to-pass, rugged terrain with overcoming various obstacles, and they will also have to perform exercises in firing weapons from armored personnel carriers,

says release.

The press service recalled that the BTR-82А is “a deep modernization of the BTR-80 and BTR-80 armored personnel carriers; instead of a machine-gun turret, the new machine received a combat module with an automatic 2A72 cannon of the 30-mm caliber, paired with a PKTM 7,62-mm machine gun. On the new BTR installed a more powerful engine and splinter protection.

To improve team control, the armored vehicle is equipped with 5-generation communication devices and a topographic orientation system.

Comments

[tchoni]

Yeah ... the new technique is very good. But, not a boomerang .... not a boomerang ...

[RASKAT]

Yes, the boomerang is so expensive that I think even with its massive deliveries to the troops, the good old armored personnel carrier will still remain as a cheaper and more massive alternative. Plus the boomerang is quite heavy, and the same armored personnel carrier can, if desired, be thrust into the helicopter.

[Hunter 2]

Quote: tchoni

Yeah ... the new technique is very good. But, not a boomerang .... not a boomerang ...

Unfortunately, the Marine Corps, of all the quick reaction forces, is supplied and financed according to the “residual principle”. Of course it's a pity, but at least something!

[Genry]

Quote: tchoni

But, not a boomerang .... not a boomerang ...

But the Boomerang is not the Kurganets ... And the Kurganets is not the T-15 (Armata) ... But the T-15 is not the T-14 .... But the T-14 is not ...... You always You will be unhappy.
And this armored troop carrier is good! Allows you to solve a bunch of tasks that are not related to frontal attacks.

[cast iron]

As a carrier of soldiers he has long been outdated. It is crowded, uncomfortable. The engine compartment occupies half the armored car !!! And this is in the 21st century. I have no complaints about the side exits, but they are really small and inconvenient for a fully equipped fighter. The best solution is a spacious rear exit and 2 lateral ones in case of emergency.

[Genry]

Quote: cast iron

As a carrier of soldiers he has long been outdated. It is crowded, uncomfortable.

Cramped, of course ... But you know how much the armored corps, for example, an intercity bus, will weigh. And he will not swim already, and will lose patency, and what target he will become. So that cramped space is the eternal companion of armored vehicles.
In fact, the current specialization of these armored personnel carriers is cross-country firing points that allow you to quickly take advantageous positions for defense and simultaneously throw a few fighters or ammunition.

Quote: cast iron

The best solution is a spacious rear exit and 2 lateral ones in case of emergency.

Take the "Tiger", there you definitely have enough doors.

[cast iron]

The tiger cannot swim. In general, I am sure that with a modern compact ICE, you can also make an additional rear door in the BTR-80 and increase its internal living space. The BTR80 has a medical modification, in which the case is slightly "bloated". Why not take it as a basis? In general, for a long time it was time to build something similar and more convenient from aluminum and composites.
By the way, where did you get the idea that the armored car will not be able to swim? Steel battleships swam pretty tolerably. This is by the way about armor and volumes.

[tun5t]

The armored troop-carrier then grew up, you will not bury from the ATGM, although maybe right now everyone in the cities gathered to fight, not in the field

[poquello]

Quote: tun5t

The armored troop-carrier then grew up, you will not bury from the ATGM, although maybe right now everyone in the cities gathered to fight, not in the field

and why are you going to dig in? there is a module on top

[tchoni]

Quote: tun5t

The armored troop-carrier then grew up, you will not bury from the ATGM, although maybe right now everyone in the cities gathered to fight, not in the field

Some, such, have already dug up aviation ... Schaub did not find the enemy .. So they still hung the most important thing ...

[poquello]

Quote: tchoni

Quote: tun5t

The armored troop-carrier then grew up, you will not bury from the ATGM, although maybe right now everyone in the cities gathered to fight, not in the field

Some, such, have already dug up aviation ... Schaub did not find the enemy .. So they still hung the most important thing ...

so Hussein was also dug up (more precisely, the basement of his caches), if sold, they’d be dug up, not dug up ...

[poquello]

instead of a machine-gun turret, the new machine received a combat module with an automatic gun 2A72 30-mm caliber coaxial with a 7,62-mm PKTM machine gun. "

and target tracking system, nice car

[Doliva63]

20 armored personnel carriers - how many battalions of marines? Or mouth? Or 1 per platoon? Reminds a joke of how tanks shared

[faiver]

Well, if the people it turns out two companies

[Doliva63]

Oh, got it. The third company of armored personnel carriers received last year. Well, they don’t run on foot

[Korax71]

Well, judging by the 414 rifle camps in Kaspiysk, there are 30 units of battalion-3 infantry companies, a company of 4 platoons, 3 rifle units with equipment of 3 units per platoon, plus an infantry fighting vehicle dowry, and one company control unit for the entire battalion. then not so long ago, at the beginning of the XNUMXs, an entire brigade was deployed. cut it as unnecessary, as all the troops from Chechnya withdrew.

[wicked pinnochio]

and you can put a large gun on it

[cast iron]

It is impossible. The body of the BTR80 is weak and deformed at first, even from the recoil of a 30mm autocannon. Designers put a lot of effort to remove this very deformation.

[Ingvar0401]

the new machine received a combat module with an automatic gun 2A72 30-mm caliber coaxial with a 7,62-mm machine gun PKTM
Recently, one marine complained that the combat module for the BTR-80 is heavy when it is afloat ....

[Torsion]

Here are the questions. Why is the Marine Corps such a machine? A floating armored bus? That floats is good. But the fact that no weapons is a minus. Wheels? And where are they going to drive them? Landing on model beaches? Who will let you get to the shore in real life, and can a wheeled armored personnel carrier get on it?
Here is the BMD-3. Why not buy it. Floats. Armament is quite decent for its class. Caterpillar that sharply increases cross-country ability. The Marines are for this purpose not to depend on circumstances, but only on themselves ...

[surgeon61]

If only ... yes! All over the world they use wheeled vehicles. There are pros .. there are cons. Of the pluses, wheeled vehicles, high speed of movement on roads, without destruction .... which is sometimes important. And if I had visited a training ground in Bamburovo (Primorsky Territory, Khasansky District) ... then I didn’t talk about patency anymore.

[andrewkor]

But I still liked the BTR-90!

[Ingvar0401]

I won’t tell you exactly, but about a year and a half ago two BTR-82A drowned during the landing (thank God no one died) and then they were lifted by a crane ....

[assa67]

20 armored personnel carrier is good ... and the Japs in spite of us the destroyer ...

[Doliva63]

1 vs 20? Will not pull

[assa67]

Yeah ... kaak will float, kaak will be surrounded .... it's not me thinking

[Radical]

Quote: faiver

Well, if the people it turns out two companies

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Torsion

Here are the questions. Why is the Marine Corps such a machine? A floating armored bus? That floats is good. But the fact that no weapons is a minus. Wheels? And where are they going to drive them? Landing on model beaches? Who will let you get to the shore in real life, and can a wheeled armored personnel carrier get on it?
Here is the BMD-3. Why not buy it. Floats. Armament is quite decent for its class. Caterpillar that sharply increases cross-country ability. The Marines are for this purpose not to depend on circumstances, but only on themselves ...

30 mm no weapons? Well, they still have tanks and artillery, don’t worry. Wheeled vehicles are always more mobile than tracked ones. And APCs can not only drive along the beaches. It’s immediately obvious that they didn’t sit at the wheel. and then on an armored personnel carrier, there would be nothing to compare. And the BMD is inferior to the armored personnel carrier in terms of protection, and the armament is almost the same, plus 5 troops, compared to 7 per armored personnel carrier. And the fact that the tracked vehicle is much more passable than wheeled nonsense. In the swamps, yes, I don’t argue. And so, of our caterpillar equipment, the most normal is the good old MTLB. It just exactly corresponds to its name. Tractor. And it will drive everywhere, and even drag it in tow.

[Torsion]

I answer. How is it that I did not drive? Management experience BMP-2 and MTLB available. Yes, I was driving a “70” just a couple of times. But do you know what experience is available? Pulling out an APC with polygons ! There, at one time, the neighbors of VV managed to put almost half into the mud of two dozen cars ... I’m sure that this would not happen with tracked vehicles. And this, I emphasize, at the training ground! The thing is that in a real situation no one can guarantee the availability of roads and good weather when capturing a coastal bridgehead.
A 30mm cannon, especially on an armored personnel carrier, is not a weapon. What can she do? To scare away sparrows? An anti-tank missile system was installed on the BMD, which makes it possible to gloatily examine the puzzled hari of enemy tankers. And the presence of a 100mm cooler allows you to talk in elevated tones with any LME of the adversary and watch how quickly machine gunners / snipers of the enemy write a testament.
The marines have no tanks and artillery at the time of the seizure of the bridgehead. It will all be later. Later. If not thrown back. Therefore, in order not to be thrown off, it is necessary to equip efficientBM

[cariperpaint]

I saw how they were being taken.

[k_ply]

If there were the 22nd BTR-90 “Berezhok” (“buried alive”), it would be worth rejoicing, and this c.n. "so-so ..." with 10 mm of armor at best.
Vaughn, never having waited for our military-industrial complex to spawn a new wheeled BM, even the Kazakhs were forced to start their own project.

[Xscorpion]

Quote: Torsion

I answer. How is it that I did not drive? Management experience BMP-2 and MTLB available. Yes, I was driving a “70” just a couple of times. But do you know what experience is available? Pulling out an APC with polygons ! There, at one time, the neighbors of VV managed to put almost half into the mud of two dozen cars ... I’m sure that this would not happen with tracked vehicles. And this, I emphasize, at the training ground! The thing is that in a real situation no one can guarantee the availability of roads and good weather when capturing a coastal bridgehead.
A 30mm cannon, especially on an armored personnel carrier, is not a weapon. What can she do? To scare away sparrows? An anti-tank missile system was installed on the BMD, which makes it possible to gloatily examine the puzzled hari of enemy tankers. And the presence of a 100mm cooler allows you to talk in elevated tones with any LME of the adversary and watch how quickly machine gunners / snipers of the enemy write a testament.
The marines have no tanks and artillery at the time of the seizure of the bridgehead. It will all be later. Later. If not thrown back. Therefore, in order not to be thrown off, it is necessary to equip efficientBM

I’m talking about Che and I don’t have any practical experience with driving an armored personnel carrier. And just because you had killed shaggy training vehicles that you pulled out at the training ground, this does not mean that all armored personnel carriers are like that. I personally was glad when I moved from BMP-2 , on the BTR-80. It’s as if from a tractor to a foreign car. By the way, on the BMD-3 it’s 30 mm, not a hundredth, you are confusing with the BMP-3. As for the ATGM, I beg you to. I will see how you will under fire equip the enemy on top of the tower. There are anti-tank platoons for this, which also have armored personnel carriers, they will need to deploy anti-tank guns on armor, they will need to be shot from the ground. And crews of combat vehicles will not have to be distracted by this. Before landing marines, the coast will be handled by aircraft and fire ships At the same time as the armored personnel carrier is afloat, landing ships with armored vehicles and artillery will go to the shore, landing helicopters with reconnaissance will go through the air. Aviation will cover from the air, and parachute landing will be possible from the sea. And as always, you will have one armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting with tanks.