US media: Trump is ready to present a plan of reconciliation of Israel and Palestine

Newspaper The New York Times Publishes material stating that in the near future the administration of US President Donald Trump will announce a plan of action for a Middle East settlement. Recall that earlier Trump declared his readiness to offer a “deal” that would lead to peace between Israel and Palestine. It is noteworthy that the US President made this statement after he recognized Jerusalem as the Israeli capital.

A few days earlier in the Arabic-language media it was stated that Saudi Arabia was also ready to join the “peace” process. In particular, the official Riyadh intends to offer Israel joint participation in the “megaproject” (quoted by Arabic-language publications) for the construction of an ultramodern city, part of which will be located on islands belonging to Saudi Arabia. In exchange, Israel, as stated in the Middle Eastern media, "could lift the blockade from the Gaza Strip and resume negotiations with the Palestinian leadership."

Earlier in Washington stated that they could recognize one of the eastern suburbs of Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state as a "compromise". In Palestine, they say that such a proposal will be ignored, since the “exchange” with Israel in this case would be clearly unequal.

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[Thrall]

Ready - provide, not ready - do not provide. Why bother something?

[Monos]

Trump announced his readiness to offer a “deal” that will lead to peace between Israel and Palestine.

In the place of the Israelites, I would be wary. They need to take a closer look at their audits and understand that they have something that interests the States.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Monos

In the place of the Israelites, I would be wary

That is yes. The only PEACEFUL way is to stop the killing on both sides that violate the world of scumbags together, and only then, after about forty years, when the pain of loss settles in the souls, you can agree on something. Neither Israel nor Palestine will do this.
So the way is NOT PEACEFUL. It looks like a very simple and quick way. Destroy all those who are against, on one side. Then destroy those who are outraged by the massacre. And that’s it. Peaceful silence of the cemetery (s).

[Chertt]

Man, of course, restless. You won’t get bored with him. Not like the previous "tanned dove of peace" Obama

[vlad66]

Quote: Thrall

Ready - provide, not ready - do not provide. Why bother something?

He has such a position - a trepak.

[cats]

Quote: vlad66

He has such a position - a trepak

The word "deal" cuts the ear.
The antichrist to be expected should not be a redhead case?

[svp67]

Well, let's see ... For so many years no one could, and Donald ...

[Hurricane70]

Desert vagrants advised him to see something!

[Alex-a832]

It will offer on the principle of approximately how the Yankees "reconciled" with the Indians. Indians are not Jews.

[Guru]

Arabs think Delighted. A deal is always Good. You just have to give Jerusalem to the palestine, and that's all, business. ;)

[HAM]

Once the springboard took up Israel, wait for the trouble. Somehow it’s embarrassing for him to create the world!
Unrestrained on the tongue and actions-peacemaker

[flicker]

US media: Trump is ready to present a plan of reconciliation of Israel and Palestine

Already as suggested: joint marriages of Jews and Arabs. At first glance it seems unrealizable, especially in the near future ... and if in the future?

[Strips]

At first glance, and not only the first glance, it is not so much unrealizable as it is simply stupid.

[flicker]

Stupid or not stupid, as long as we leave aside.
I would like to know the answer to one question: here in VO, in one of the topics, it was said that if the Arab accepts Judaism, then he will still remain an Arab. But I wonder what will happen to a Jew if he suddenly embraces Islam? Will he remain a Jew or not? I would like to receive an answer from knowledgeable Jews.

[brigadier]

1. The Arab will become a Jew.
2. A Jew will cease to be a Jew. What he will become is not clear. Because it is impossible to be a Jew and not a Jew.
Gaft was baptized - he ceased to be a Jew, but did not become Russian.

[sogdy]

Quote: brigadir

if he becomes, it’s not clear. Because it is impossible to be a Jew and not a Jew.

It's funny It is possible to be a non-Semitic Jew, but Semite cannot be a Jew.
Do not you think that your "Jewry" is worse than Femenism?

[sogdy]

Quote: brigadir

Gaft was baptized - he ceased to be a Jew, but did not become Russian.

Nothing confused? Time, for example. Gaft was Soviet, "Russianness" did not interest anyone.

[brigadier]

Nothing confused? Time, for example.

Gaft is a cross, like Konstantin Raikin or Joseph Prigogine and many others (Levitan, Rubinstein, Alexander Men ...)
On such in the Jewish families sat "shivaU" - a week of mourning for the dead.

[Dormidont]

It is true - at baptism they renounce Satan

[sogdy]

Quote: brigadir

cross

Quote: brigadir

On such in Jewish families sat "ShivU"

So what? Your problems should concern us? Remind Anatole France?
And how do your beliefs deny that Gaft is Soviet?

[flicker]

Is this your personal point of view, or this point of view of the Rabbi, or the opinion of a sufficiently wide sections of the Jewish ethnos?
Why I clarify, there was a discussion and the idea was expressed that an Arab who converted to Judaism would still remain an Arab.

[brigadier]

Is this your personal point of view or this point of view of the Rabbi

This is the point of view of Jewish Halakha - religious law.
Born to a Jewish mother - a Jew.
He converted to Judaism - a Jew.
Converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam - ceased to be a Jew.
An Arab who converted to Judaism becomes a Jew.

[flicker]

Thanks, this is clear. It turns out that joint marriages between Arabs and Jews (daughter for an Arab) are quite possible - history knows many examples when political marriages between countries and peoples were solved by such marriages.

[Professor]

Quote: brigadir

1. The Arab will become a Jew.
2. A Jew will cease to be a Jew. What he will become is not clear. Because it is impossible to be a Jew and not a Jew.
Gaft was baptized - he ceased to be a Jew, but did not become Russian.

1000 apologies, but you are wrong.
1. An Arab will remain an Arab even if he accepts Orthodoxy. We have Christian Arabs and Muslim Arabs. So there will be another Arab Jew. Yes, there are already many of them here.
2. A Jew accepting another faith does not cease to be a Jew (Jew). Paradox. Judaism is a one-way ticket.

[brigadier]

So there will be another Arab Jew

This does not happen. As there is no Russian Jew or Polish Jew. A person who converted to Judaism becomes a Jew. This is the whole thing and the abnormality of Jewry.

A Jew accepting another faith does not cease to be a Jew (Jew). Paradox. Judaism is a one-way ticket.

Ceases. Even the return law does not apply to a Jew who has converted to another religion.

Although ...
- Abram, tomorrow the pogrom!
- And I'm on the passport - Russian.
- So they will beat not according to the passport, but in the face.

[Professor]

Quote: brigadir

This does not happen. As there is no Russian Jew or Polish Jew. A person who converted to Judaism becomes a Jew. This is the whole thing and the abnormality of Jewry.

... only now he does not cease to be an Arab. So the Arabs shout at us at Memuna at night and give out mufflets to everyone.

Quote: brigadir

Ceases. Even the return law does not apply to a Jew who has converted to another religion.

The Law of Return is not a religious law. According to this law, non-Jews are also entitled to repatriation. For example, even the grandchildren of the Jews with a cross on their necks at least life-size. However, Judaism does not have the reverse giuru procedure, i.e. the abolition of Judaism. Once a Jew is always a Jew. I once thought like you and once argued with a religious colleague and ... argued. Go to the next yeshiva and ask for a rabbi.

Quote: assa67

Oleg, welcome ... oh, this “peacemaker" ... a deal with North Korea, now with Israel and Palestine ... what can he offer? general disarmament? ... I don’t remember exactly who said in the promised: “if the Arabs lay down their arms there will be no more war ... if Israel lay down her arms, there will be no more Israel "... what can Trump offer in this case?

He can offer nothing. The Philistines are not negotiable.

[brigadier]

So the Arabs scream at us at Memuna at night and give out mufflets to everyone.

Six months ago I went to Morocco as a tourist. It is now clear to me where the legs grow from. Imagine a whole country of Ars, such lazy idlers without money, work but with show-offs.
The only thing is that women in the pen are quieter than water and lower than grass, at least on the street. About our Arab Jews differ strikingly.
What struck me was the absolutely tasteless food. I was expecting a culinary adventure, but they explained to us that delicious food left Morocco with the Jews in the fifties of the last century. Everything was tasteless, and in hotels and restaurants ... everywhere. Only indigestion was guaranteed.

[assa67]

Oleg, welcome ... oh, this “peacemaker" ... a deal with North Korea, now with Israel and Palestine ... what can he offer? general disarmament? ... I don’t remember exactly who said in the promised: “if the Arabs lay down their arms there will be no more war ... if Israel lay down her arms, there will be no more Israel "... what can Trump offer in this case?

[KonoGon]

Quote: professor

1000 apologies, but you are wrong.

In this case, you are wrong. Convert to Judaism He is a Jew - Ger. Regardless of its ethnic origin.

[sogdy]

Quote: KonoGon

He who converted to Judaism is a Jew - Ger

Quote: professor

Judaism does not have a reverse giuru procedure

In Russian: "messed up - do not wash off."
Boys, why are you different from Muslims ?!

[Professor]

Quote: sogdy

Quote: KonoGon

He who converted to Judaism is a Jew - Ger

Quote: professor

Judaism does not have a reverse giuru procedure

In Russian: "messed up - do not wash off."
Boys, why are you different from Muslims ?!

And you?

[KonoGon]

Quote: professor

And you?

And they are Muslims and are, in potency, through two three generations.

[sogdy]

Quote: KonoGon

And they are Muslims and are, in potency, through two three generations.

Therefore, I divide the Jews (in the Russian understanding), the Jews and the Israeli sect.
The synod before Alexy II officially recognized the Israeli interpretation of Judaism as sectarian.

[sogdy]

And we appeared as a Family long before your religions. I grew up in a Lamaist environment. We served Orthodoxy and the Synodal Church as a representative of all our religions.
Our Jews are Jews of self-determination. They don’t want - and they won’t. Samsem. We have many Jews - not Jews. And not associating themselves with the Jews. Judaism is over 8 thousand years old. And he went out of Hindustan, where, at that moment, there was no smell of Semites.
But we have a problem with neo-Muslims. With neophytes there is always a problem ...

[MKPU-115]

"Trump is ready to present a plan for reconciliation between Israel and Palestine" - yeah, the plan will be limited to the supply of weapons, they are so reconciled with the Indians

[bald]

At the same time, the president, the “peacemaker,” will coordinate joint exercises in Israel with 2.5 thousand American soldiers. And such "peacekeepers" as America and Saudi Arabia - Palestinians saw in a coffin. About relations with Israel-generally ass.

[Dormidont]

Rather, the sun will revolve around the earth

[Zina389]

In fact, Israel is not interested in a "peace" with the so-called "Palestinians." And interested in a world with rich Arab countries. Such as, for example, Saudi Arabia. On the other hand, the same interest is visible, and the “Palestinian” issue is an unfortunate obstacle along the way. So if there is an agreement, it is most likely fictitious for certain purposes. Such an agreement can be signed with the “president of the Palestinian autonomy” deprived of de facto power. Refuse? Remove from allowance. Even the most evil Islamists who settled in Gaza have loopholes in the Qur'an. Like a temporary truce with the wrong, etc. So let them put a crap on some paper, or something like in Eastern Ghout ... Enough of putting up with these terrorists in their backyard.