What and how are they taught at Skolkovo vocational school?

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It so happened that we were taught to pay for any initiatives in the development of "unparalleled." And we kind of like and do not mind. After all, it's a righteous thing, we are developing the country, sir. And our country is developing in the technical direction. They show us (not always) inventions, and even the word for this is picked up by the beautiful - “innovation”. This is an abbreviated "no analogy in the world."

Where most of the “breakthroughs" come from, I think, no need to tell. A great place with the underground nickname "Naukograd" regularly pleases us the news and statements about the next invention, the usefulness of which borders on neuropsychiatric medical examination.



Here we have the “Exoatlet” super-exoskeleton for the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the order for which was won by the Research Institute of Mechanics of Moscow State University in 2011. However, a commercial organization has already appeared in 2013, which until now sells medical versions for people with disabilities at a reasonable price 1,5 million rubles. The price tag for the ordinary ordinary citizen, institutions - more expensive. The order for the Ministry of Emergency Situations has not been fulfilled, by the way.

We are promised a moped- “iphone”, a computer made of “magic dust” and make up a list of future professions, spending very good money on all this.

But the reason for the article were not these sad moments. With particular love, the best minds reacted to our future - children, or rather, schoolchildren. We were shown a unique tablet for the student, developed in conjunction with Rosnano. Who does not know is a braked e-book, in which they saved on everything. The tablet can not call the language. From a quality product here only the price for 20 thousand rubles.

In principle, one can come to terms with this, but from what kind of Internet project launched Technopolis for schoolchildren, hair stands on end not only on the back of the neck. Meet the YaClass project.



Portal designed to create unique tests for each student. Here the gentlemen from Skolkovo also fly by, the idea is not new. This method of additional training has already been tested in the mills of Europe since 2009. These are Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Great Britain, Slovakia.

In 2013, Vesna Investment invested 2 million dollars in the development of this system in Russia. And quite successfully. At the beginning of the 2015 of the year, the Moscow Seed Found already allocates 12 million rubles to expand the portal throughout the country. According to statistics for the 2016 year, more than 500 000 students use this system.

And everything seems to be good, and it seems that we are again raising the country from its knees by the power of Skolkovo’s powerful managers. That's just a closer look I want to cry. It is enough to study the list of items:

What and how are they taught at Skolkovo vocational school?


The list is definitely poor. On the other hand, the future citizen who knows history, literature and legal foundations of their state is not needed. He does not need to think, they have already thought for him, it’s not for nothing that they receive half a million wages. A crowd without education is not even a population, it is a herd. Stupid and controlled. A separate meteorite in the direction of the Ministry of Education and Science. In this they succeeded.

But that's not all. Let's see what kind of “additional” tests we are offered by scientists managers who believe that such an innovation will certainly raise the level of education in the country.



To begin with, it may seem like a “duck”. Honestly, it's hard to believe. We check the mobile application. And what we see?



I would like to separately pay attention to the means that this poured into us, the taxpayers. By the way, the estimated budget for 2020 year, at the time of the signing of the order by President Medvedev, was 125,2 billion rubles. (Federal Law of the Russian Federation No. 244-FZ “On the Skolkovo Innovation Center” was signed by President of the Russian Federation D. A. Medvedev on September 28 on 2010) Let's be honest, it is known from open sources that so far Skolkovo administrators have failed to meet the budget. At the same time, Skolkovo extortionists constantly receive investments from commercial funds.

It turns out that we ourselves pay for the degradation of our children and, accordingly, the future of the whole country. The carousel of insanity is just beginning to unwind, the same project has already been launched in Armenia and Belarus. I would not like to personally see the results of such education.

But while the same figure of Chubais is behind Skolkovo and Rosnano, one should not hope for progress. It is not for this that Mr. Chubais is put up.
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  1. +49
    13 March 2018 06: 55
    What and how are they taught at Skolkovo vocational school?
    -TO SAW !

    1. +45
      13 March 2018 07: 07
      The whole country considers Chubais a thief and a traitor, and only Putin considers him an effective manager! laughing
      Probably we don’t know something. bully
      1. +25
        13 March 2018 07: 33
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Probably we don’t know

        Here, no kidding, the situation is mystical. A bunch of Putin-Chubais, this is not even absurd, it's some kind of parallel universe.
        1. +19
          13 March 2018 07: 49
          Quote: Chertt
          it's some kind of parallel universe.

        2. +62
          13 March 2018 08: 45
          Personally, I do not see any mysticism here. Putin is a man from the Yeltsin team, tucked up by Sobchak and Berezovsky with the approval of the same Chubais. And the fact that he, through the efforts of PR specialists, built himself the image of the coolest savior of Russia over these 18 years, does not cancel the previous fact and the facts of his support of people from this team. But here, unfortunately, a significant part of the population separates the good Putin from the bad oligarchs, thieves-ministers and multibillionaires-heads of state corporations.
        3. +4
          13 March 2018 14: 05
          it pleases them and makes them happy
        4. +7
          13 March 2018 17: 06
          Quote: Chertt
          Here, no kidding, the situation is mystical. A bunch of Putin-Chubais, this is not even absurd, it's some kind of parallel universe.

          What, it’s not so clear what is happening in the country? Do you live right in a parallel world?)) Well, if you focus on our (Putin) media, then yes .. no, why, it’s not clear, I agree)))))
      2. +16
        13 March 2018 09: 13
        This tablet needs to be exchanged with Medvedev for a suppressed iPhone, can it grow wiser? winked
        1. +3
          15 March 2018 20: 40
          Respected siberalt, and I also remembered such a huge LED light bulb, which the red "Ice" showed GDP. Having modestly lowered his eyes, he said that the initial cost of this figovina would be about 1000 rubles. And then I thought how good it would be to put these bulbs in both in rectum to indicate the reaction of the people to such a cut in the budget.
          And the project of the "Electronic textbook" already forgotten ?! You have to come up with the same thing - pull out the most primitive reader and report that its development was carried out by RUSANANO for some 7 billion!
      3. +6
        13 March 2018 10: 14
        For 10 years, the Rusnano Corporation has created 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters "from scratch"
        The debate about what role the state should play in creating an innovative economy has not stopped for years. An objective assessment of the Russian experience in high-tech government investment is possible using the example of RUSNANO formed just over 10 years ago.
        The creation of the Rusnanotech corporation in 2007 cost the treasury 130 billion rubles. An alternative to this decision was the replenishment of the Reserve Fund. Now, of course, this money would not be in the way of the Ministry of Finance, but would it last for a long time? If we consider that the federal budget expenditures in the “three-year period” from 2017 to 2019 are set at 16 trillion rubles, then 130 billion rubles would be enough for the country for three days.
        For the past three years, the company has reported profit under IFRS. This means that many projects have been successful, the profit from their implementation has paid off the remaining investments. Official data indicate that over 10 years the Group has created 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters built by RUSNANO for the most part from scratch. The annual turnover of portfolio companies exceeds 350 billion, and over 10 years has reached 1,4 trillion rubles. By the end of 2016 alone, in the form of taxes to the budgets of various levels, the state received 80 billion rubles from portfolio companies. This year, this figure should reach 104 billion rubles. Another year or two, and the initial investment will pay off only through tax revenues.
        However, for the state financial return should not play and never played a decisive role. The side effects are much more important, for example, the creation of a nanotechnological products market. According to the research company DISCOVERY Research Group, its volume in Russia is 4,4 trillion rubles. But how comparable is the quality and technological level of the domestic nanoindustry to world analogues? According to RUSNANO, on average about 20% of the products of portfolio companies are exported. According to the report for 2016, this figure amounted to 53 billion rubles, and if you add this figure over several years, you get 136 billion rubles. This figure is an objective indicator that the enterprises built by RUSNANO are able to successfully compete in the global market.
        Another curious indicator from the category of concomitant effects is 33,4 billion rubles, which RUSNANO project companies sent to research. Private investments in R&D are not only encouraging in themselves, but also serve as proof that the players of the relatively young nanoindustry intend to play long.
        Skeptics argue that without private investors, an innovative economy cannot be built. The RUSNANO leadership does not argue with this. The new business model provides for investment through funds that are formed, inter alia, at the expense of private investors. By the end of 2017, 7 new funds were created. For two years, a record 49 billion rubles have been raised from outside investors. This year RUSNANO plans to bring the total amount of attracted investments in new funds to 60 billion rubles.
        For the money that the state could “eat” in three days, the country received a mechanism capable of generating taxes, innovative solutions, and creating tens of thousands of highly qualified jobs. Against the backdrop of the 10-year stagnation of the Russian economy, which actually coincided with the existence of RUSNANO, the result looks quite good.
        1. FID
          +12
          13 March 2018 10: 50
          Quote: RedFox11
          For 10 years, the Rusnano Corporation has created 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters "from scratch"

          I'm sorry, is this good or bad? And what Rusnano produced is enough for us sinners ???
        2. +7
          13 March 2018 13: 48
          Impressive: By the end of 2016 alone, in the form of taxes to the budgets of various levels, the state received 80 billion rubles from portfolio companies. This year, this figure should reach 104 billion rubles. Another year or two, and the initial investment will pay off only through tax revenues.
          I would like to somehow help a good cause and accelerate. I suggest:
          - Add 4 times more funds to RUSNANO next year and introduce a progressive personal income tax scale. Then, only due to tax revenues, the initial investment will pay off not in a year or two, but in a quarter of a year! How much for saved money - you can still create portfolios! Well this is how we trample horror !!! And how joyful for the budget ...
      4. +15
        13 March 2018 10: 58
        Chubais (chubys in Ukrainian, the red cub) - in mythology, a small malicious house spirit in the form of a bellied red rat "with a face like a human." Rat red in the year of the red dog
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      6. +14
        13 March 2018 12: 33
        Keep your hands off the “holy and inviolable”! Don’t you understand?! We say “Putin!” - we mean “Chubais” ... We say “Chubais!” - we mean “Putin!” ..
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        The whole country considers Chubais a thief and a traitor, and only Putin considers him an effective manager! laughing
        Probably we don’t know something. bully
        1. AUL
          +9
          13 March 2018 19: 38
          Can someone enlighten me? What kind of "ten and a few years" was really created - released, developed, researched - by this corporation? Well, besides a poor tablet. What exactly do "created from scratch" 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters "do?
          1. +1
            13 March 2018 20: 24
            Quote from AUL
            Can someone enlighten me? What kind of "ten and a few years" was really created - released, developed, researched - by this corporation?

            Personally, I know two people who are developing their startups on their grandees (in Russian, they create a new product, which was not the case before). Ordinary people, and they ask strictly for money, because private money is present without fail. Try yourself there to get a grand project, but believe me, this is possible. And failures in advanced developments will always be. Because it is not clear what will bring profit and what will not. You can’t fully calculate any new project. Venture investments are the most risky, but also the most profitable.
            P.S. In no case do not justify the privatization of the 90s. And I don’t like redheads. There he is not the one who decides everything, advice. First you work for the name, then the name works for you. In the case of the redhead, the first part of the proverb in a positive sense did not work.
            1. AUL
              0
              14 March 2018 12: 42
              Quote: In100gram
              Quote from AUL
              Can someone enlighten me? What kind of "ten and a few years" was really created - released, developed, researched - by this corporation?

              Personally, I know two people who are developing their startups on their grandees (in Russian, they create a new product, which was not the case before).
              So I did not raise the question about this. The question is, what’s the output? What do these 95 enterprises produce? What do these 15 "nanocenters" do?
              Specifically?
              And one more question. Chubais at the corporate party boasted that he had a lot of money, that huge profits. Due to what profit? IMHO, this is a purely speculative sharaga, makes grandmother and air.
      7. +3
        13 March 2018 21: 05
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        The whole country considers Chubais a thief and a traitor, and only Putin considers him an effective manager! laughing
        Probably we don’t know something. bully

        You do not read textbooks: for example, our bikes ride at such speeds:
        Two cyclists left at the same time to meet each other from two villages. The speed of one cyclist is 200 m / min and the other 300 m / min ...
        1. +1
          17 March 2018 02: 19
          Quote: naidas
          The speed of one cyclist is 200m \ min, and the other is 300m \ min


          So what? 12 kilometers per hour, and 18 kilometers per hour. Normal bike speed.
      8. +1
        15 March 2018 20: 28
        Respected Ingvar 72and here you need to remember the ancient proverb: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend!" And when there is a friend of our enemy, then who is he to us?
  2. +11
    13 March 2018 08: 03
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    What and how are they taught at Skolkovo vocational school?
    -TO SAW !


    What kind of infantility? All adults have long known that Chubais is put by the United States looking to Russia.
    Until Putin squeezes the United States out of Russia, Chubais will be her gray cardinal and a frequent guest at various Bilderberg, western gatherings.
    Russia pays the U.S. a tribute of a BILLION of greenery per day, the U.S. spends part of this money on anti-Russian propaganda in the media, on fueling the fifth column, NGOs, including Chubais, whom the United States put on Skolkovo to avert their eyes. It’s strange that you don’t know this ...
    See the root. Such is the fee for surrendered in the nineties by Bob, a friend of Bill, the sovereignty of Russia.
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin!
    1. +18
      13 March 2018 08: 29
      Quote: cedar
      Until Putin squeezes the US out of Russia

      18 years I didn’t succeed, do you think for 6 I’m finishing it?
      it turns out a great chess player with a tiger look, put the dagger, Sarmatian, USA zircon on his knees, returned the Crimea,
      Quote: cedar
      pays US tribute

      Quote: cedar
      Sovereignty. Russia. Putin!

      bye this wishes
      1. +28
        13 March 2018 08: 48
        Can you imagine what limits the level of idiocy reaches ... uh ... jingoism among Putininoids ?! They write that Russia is a US colony and glorify a person who supports such a development of affairs. Hand face!!!
        1. +8
          13 March 2018 11: 38
          Quote: Greenwood
          Can you imagine what limits the level of idiocy reaches ... uh ... jingoism among Putininoids ?! They write that Russia is a US colony and glorify a person who supports such a development of affairs. Hand face!!!

          No, here he asks for a nogalice! But seriously, the cedar seems to me to be sent by a Cossack.
      2. +4
        13 March 2018 14: 13
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
        18 years crushed failed

        Rather, he withstood the pressure and did not sell out completely, but managed to play it.
        To make it clearer: I vote in the 1st round for Grudinin.
        But Putin does not need to take away his victories. Even without us, he has beyond measure the sickness of "ill-will": from the series "at least someone - if only not for Putin."
    2. +15
      13 March 2018 09: 22
      Quote: cedar

      What kind of infantility? All adults have long known that Chubais is put by the United States looking to Russia.
      Until Putin squeezes the United States out of Russia, Chubais will be her gray cardinal and a frequent guest at various Bilderberg, western gatherings.
      Russia pays the U.S. a tribute of a BILLION of greenery per day, the U.S. spends part of this money on anti-Russian propaganda in the media, on fueling the fifth column, NGOs, including Chubais, whom the United States put on Skolkovo to avert their eyes. It’s strange that you don’t know this ...
      See the root. Such is the fee for surrendered in the nineties by Bob, a friend of Bill, the sovereignty of Russia.
      Sovereignty. Russia. Putin!

      One day the other day, in a minute of leisure, after the enchanting speeches of the cedar, I decided to inquire about where such powerful old giants of thought come from. A thread logically led to a certain E. Fedorov, inveterate ederas and the head of the so-called GCD. After watching several of his fiery matches in the same vein with all sorts of “sovereignty, Russia, Putin” and his manner of holding public in debate. once again sincerely neighing and began to come to the conclusion about the sluggish schizophrenia of the character, rallying the urban crazy around him. However, when studying the biography, it turned out that this miracle was at one time a member of the budget and tax committee in the Duma. And they don’t keep idiots there. With a more careful attitude to the subject, it turned out that he was reaching for a needle like a thread, guess who? You will not believe. For A.B. Chubais.

      So that we see the root !!! Isn’t it, dear cedar, or how are you in the world?
      1. +11
        13 March 2018 16: 09
        Fedorov pushes his speeches for a modest deputy 400 thousand rubles. per month. Well, plus a social package (company car, apartment, cottage, company driver, secretary, assistant and much more). And Fedorovsky’s speeches are repeated for free. So think who has schizophrenia and who does not ...
      2. +3
        14 March 2018 07: 52
        There is still putinoid s Petrov there smile he explains with kudrins words why the age of retirement should be increased lol And he thinks that he himself thinks wassat
  3. +15
    13 March 2018 09: 02
    So the power cannot touch the redhead! For she (power) is a vassal of the west. A redhead looking for vassalage.
  4. +5
    13 March 2018 09: 02
    Practice shows that ANY redistribution carried out by government officials is inefficient and enriches not society, but redistribution.
    For comparison - a private school "Letovo" for 50 million dollars.

    http://www.forbes.ru/milliardery/319459-otkrytoe-
    prostranstvo-zachem-vadim-moshkovich-stroit-nekom
    mercheskuyu-chastnuyu-s
    1. 0
      13 March 2018 09: 47
      what you wrote
      Quote: Cheerful
      Practice shows that ANY redistribution carried out by government officials is inefficient and enriches not society, but redistribution.

      this is liberalism! The commentators on VO are generally mountainous for state regulation, so that the state builds schools and parades, and officials distribute the money fairly!
      1. +4
        13 March 2018 10: 33
        In principle, the state mechanism can be effective, BUT! for this, the state must be essentially a private company of one family, that is, a monarchy. For example, the Scandinavian states, the Middle East monarchies. hi
        Otherwise, even the highest official (President) essentially acts as a temporary manager, who is almost impossible to resist the appropriation of national wealth. And for the lack of a controlling subject (people cannot be a subject), his theft will remain unpunished until he is overthrown by another candidate for the position of manager either through electoral procedures or through a coup.
  5. +15
    13 March 2018 09: 14
    In Russia, a large-site assembly of foreign cars is carried out. Exclusive labor of domestic designers and engineers. They are not in demand. Where does science come from ???
    1. +23
      13 March 2018 09: 27
      The raw material colony of Euroraich (de facto) is not a science in status. Essentially, Hitler won:
      1) Belarus and Ukraine are separated from Russia
      2) Education, science, healthcare in ruins
      3) There is a quiet genocide of the Russian people (up to 30 thousand people die on roads alone
      4) The Russian economy - the raw materials appendage of the European Union + screwdriver assembly; machine tools, mechanical engineering are essentially absent
      5) The functions of law enforcement agencies are limited to punitive, protests are actually prohibited, people are prosecuted for dissent
      6) The country is ruled by a permanent Gauleiter, to whom “there is no alternative,” elections are not a mechanism for the legal transfer of power, but a ridiculous farce
      The list goes on ...
      1. 0
        13 March 2018 10: 14
        1. and what's wrong with that?
        2. It's only for people like you that everything quickly rises from the ruins, chatted and done!
        3. I am embarrassed to ask, but on the roads only Russians die or Kalmyks come across Dagestanis Ukrainians and others?
        4.without comments! rare stupidity, learn materiel. Many machine tools equipment are made in Russia! (about the components of these machines, a Japanese machine was brought so it is assembled from units assembled from around the world). When you talk about the European Union, you get the impression that the Russian Federation is an appendage of some Baltic states.
        5. Protest actions are prohibited ala maidan (as in all normal countries). about the persecution for dissent, probably that's about this "Egor Savin: another" victim of the Putin regime "from Radio Liberty" https://topwar.ru/137539-egor-savin-esche-zhertva
        -rezhima-putina-ot-radio-svoboda.html
        6. just did not understand this about China, Germany, or England? don't you think that Putin is trusted and Russians like stability? Enough experimentation
        When you continue the list, do not forget to mention other countries as well, otherwise it seems that Russian genocide is in Russia. and in Germany where the Germans are diluted with Arabs no! Does your flag match your location?
        1. +13
          13 March 2018 10: 31
          Quote: K.A.S.
          1. and what's wrong with that?
          2. It's only for people like you that everything quickly rises from the ruins, chatted and done!
          3. I am embarrassed to ask, but on the roads only Russians die or Kalmyks come across Dagestanis Ukrainians and others?
          4.without comments! rare stupidity, learn materiel. Many machine tools equipment are made in Russia! (about the components of these machines, a Japanese machine was brought so it is assembled from units assembled from around the world). When you talk about the European Union, you get the impression that the Russian Federation is an appendage of some Baltic states.
          5. Protest actions are prohibited ala maidan (as in all normal countries). about the persecution for dissent, probably that's about this "Egor Savin: another" victim of the Putin regime "from Radio Liberty" https://topwar.ru/137539-egor-savin-esche-zhertva
          -rezhima-putina-ot-radio-svoboda.html
          6. just did not understand this about China, Germany, or England? don't you think that Putin is trusted and Russians like stability? Enough experimentation
          When you continue the list, do not forget to mention other countries as well, otherwise it seems that Russian genocide is in Russia. and in Germany where the Germans are diluted with Arabs no! Does your flag match your location?


          Ingenious. An attempt to refute convinces us that the formation rose from its knees and rushed to the stars. "chatted", "shy", "just" ... These are not hands and not T9. This is the brain.
          PS In Russian, there are punctuation marks and algorithms for their placement. And these are not symbols randomly scattered throughout the text.
          1. +12
            13 March 2018 10: 51
            Ingenious. An attempt to refute convinces us that the formation rose from its knees and rushed to the stars. "chatted", "shy", "just" ... These are not hands and not T9. This is the brain.

            It seems that the "Olgins" are paid very little, since it’s possible to attract to work only such a "contingent" hi
          2. 0
            14 March 2018 06: 45
            Quote: sergo1914
            In Russian, there are punctuation marks and algorithms for their placement. And these are not symbols randomly scattered throughout the text.

            Hands and feet are in favor. I suggest that moderators write illiterate comments without comment.
        2. +17
          13 March 2018 10: 46
          Okay, feed the Olga Trolls.
          1. and what's wrong with that?

          The fact that the once single market was destroyed, and millions of Russian people were subjected to Ukrainization / zmagarization, being torn away from Russian culture and the Russian nation.
          2. It's only for people like you that everything quickly rises from the ruins, chatted and done!

          18 years already recovering from the ruins, the economy all this time only simplified.
          I’m embarrassed to ask, but on the roads only Russians are dying

          My comment is not about the road, but about quiet genocide. As can be seen from the map below, population growth is almost EXCLUSIVELY in the national republics, the Russians are literally EXTINCT.

          Many machine tools equipment are made in Russia!

          Can you give examples?
          banned protests ala maidan

          Any actions are prohibited, except for pro-government ones, and you have to drive people forcibly for money. That is the reality.
          don't you think that Putin is trusted and Russians like stability?

          “Russians” may like “stability” - why not like what is not, those who are not. Russians are not given a choice, in principle.
      2. +2
        13 March 2018 17: 09
        Quote: Cheerful
        The raw material colony of Euroraich (de facto) is not a science in status. Essentially, Hitler won:
        1) Belarus and Ukraine are separated from Russia
        2) Education, science, healthcare in ruins
        3) There is a quiet genocide of the Russian people (up to 30 thousand people die on roads alone
        4) The Russian economy - the raw materials appendage of the European Union + screwdriver assembly; machine tools, mechanical engineering are essentially absent
        5) The functions of law enforcement agencies are limited to punitive, protests are actually prohibited, people are prosecuted for dissent
        6) The country is ruled by a permanent Gauleiter, to whom “there is no alternative,” elections are not a mechanism for the legal transfer of power, but a ridiculous farce
        The list goes on ...

        For Stable and Strong Russia !!! Vote for Putin !!!
        1. +2
          14 March 2018 08: 48
          I vote for the daughter of Peskov !!! lol
    2. +1
      13 March 2018 09: 52
      I have a message. It is not made by our designers, engineers? not our workers?
      About the large assembly! take an interest in such a concept as localization and find out what percentage in our factories where foreign cars are collected.
      1. +12
        13 March 2018 10: 29
        Quote: K.A.S.
        I have a message.
        I'm sorry. lol We would have raised you a mockery.
        1. +1
          13 March 2018 10: 57
          where is it with us?
          and what is sympathy? I am happy as an elephant. not a used one, but a new one. and not expensive.
          1. +3
            14 March 2018 03: 41
            Quote: K.A.S.
            where is it with us?
            In Primorye. Ride on Lada with us zashkvar. Better to walk.
            Quote: K.A.S.
            not used
            In-in, when there are no other virtues, it remains only to recall that "not possessed." wassat
            Quote: K.A.S.
            and new
            Is that all? Did the benefits end there?
            Quote: K.A.S.
            yes and not dear
            It would be better if they bought import. Fair.
            1. +4
              14 March 2018 05: 14
              Import to import strife.
              In the Far East and in Primorye.
              All vehicles from garbage cans in Japan.
              Or recessed cars after Fukushima.
              There (you) have nothing to be proud of.
              1. +2
                14 March 2018 08: 51
                Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                Import to import strife.
                By itself.
                Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                All vehicles from garbage cans in Japan.
                Do you know what the "garbage" of Japan looks like? I give a hint, not at all like a garbage can in Poland or the Baltic states.
                Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                Or recessed cars after Fukushima.
                "... yawned loudly ..." This myth has long gone out of fashion, come up with something more interesting.
                Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                There (you) have nothing to be proud of.
                And you have something to be proud of? Lada? lol
                1. +4
                  14 March 2018 09: 28
                  Wow!
                  6 (six) years of youth
                  traveled to the VAZ 2109.
                  And now you can’t talk about it out loud.
                  Now on foot
                  and his wife Opel.
                  By the way, I once had Karina and
                  something from a Japanese garbage dump.
                  So-so guano, right-handed, uncomfortable.
                  My nephew Fun Cargo. Sells.
                  At the acquaintance of Ipsum.
                  Going to sell.
                  And one relative
                  Niva-85g.v.
                  Sell ​​for some reason
                  not going to.
                  And as for the "zashkvara",
                  it's about you, probably they say.
                  Well, or your kind.
                  Eight walkers.
                  Five shoots (around the zone)
                  Drive, scooter.
                  1. +1
                    15 March 2018 04: 31
                    Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                    6 (six) years of youth
                    traveled to the VAZ 2109.
                    I'm sorry.
                    Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                    And now you can’t talk about it out loud.
                    Yes, say no one forbids.
                    Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                    So-so guano, right-handed, uncomfortable.
                    And what is inconvenient?
                    Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                    My nephew Fun Cargo. Sells.
                    At the acquaintance of Ipsum.
                    Going to sell.
                    It’s funny to listen to how the domestic tazoprom is trying to praise to the detriment of the Japanese. Who do you hang this noodle for?!? !! laughing
                    Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                    And one relative
                    Niva-85g.v.
                    Compare warm to soft. Where the thread in the deep Siberian taiga Niva can be a normal car, but in the city I somehow lost the habit of driving without automatic transmissions, power windows, heated seats, climate control and a whole bunch of features that most Japanese women have.
                    Quote: Crane operator Nahamkinson
                    And as for the "zashkvara",
                    it's about you, probably they say.
                    Well, or your kind.
                    Eight walkers.
                    Five shoots (around the zone)
                    Drive, scooter.
                    Oh, and let's not get personal. I understand the complexes there, children's grievances, etc. etc., but the forum must behave in the framework of decency.
            2. +1
              14 March 2018 09: 23
              I thought the truth. SOMEWHERE!!! and this is on the bars boo! the young man is proud of nothing when he goes to the designers and boo!
              . so 10-20 year old is cool?
              I’m not so rich to buy an imported bu for 800 tons. and then another 100 thousand to invest. and on the news from our only icon!
        2. +5
          14 March 2018 11: 44
          Quote: K.A.S.
          I have a message.

          Quote: Greenwood
          I'm sorry.

          I remembered: smile
          What to buy a car (from the Internet):
          Year of issue.
          1. used - shit, they will be strewed
          2. new ones - shit, too, will be strewed, and even expensive
          Manufacturer country
          1. German - shit, no real Japanese quality
          2. Japanese - shit, no real German quality
          3. Korean shit, no quality at all
          4. French - shit, because r and all
          5. American - shit, because there is neither Japanese nor German quality
          6. Chinese - shit, everything is clear here, there’s nothing to talk about.
          7. ours - shit, well, they can’t do normal cars in a country where bears walk the streets
          Engine
          1. Gasoline - shit, eats a lot
          2. Diesel - shit, expensive to repair
          3. Hybrid - shit, big money batteries
          4. Gas - shit, will certainly explode and stink
          Transmission
          1. The handle is shit, it must be pulled all the time, and even the clutch is sometimes changed
          2. Robotic handle - shit, yanks on the switches and generally not a fig is not automatic
          3. The machine is shit, it switches the wrong and wrong, and repair is expensive
          4. CVT - shit, will certainly die
          Drive unit
          1. Front - shit, it is unclear how to get out of a skid
          2. Rear - shit, it is unclear how not to get into a skid
          3. Full - shit, nothing is clear at all, you’ll definitely kill yourself
          Body
          1. Sedan - shit, the refrigerator will not fit
          2. Hatchback - shit, small trunk
          3. Wagon - shit, fig this barn
          4. Coupe - shit, it’s inconvenient to climb back
          5. Convertible - shit blowing
          6. Bus - shit big too
          Car class
          1. A - shit, a moped with a roof
          2. B - shit, rides like a moped, eats like a car
          3. C - shit, like big, but really small
          4. D - shit, we thought it was almost E, but it turned out to be big C
          5. E - shit, so how to park this cow?
          6. F - shit, have you seen how much it costs?
          Руль
          1. Right - shit, overtaking will not work
          2. Left - shit, expensive and there is no real Japanese quality
          Other
          1. Toning - shit, nothing is visible
          2. Lack of tinting - shit, everything is visible from the street and it's hot
          1. +1
            15 March 2018 04: 33
            hi
            Conclusion, we must walk. And saving for the budget and for health is beneficial.
      2. Fox
        +14
        13 March 2018 11: 45
        Quote: K.A.S.
        I have a message. It is not made by our designers, engineers? not our workers?
        About the large assembly! take an interest in such a concept as localization and find out what percentage in our factories where foreign cars are collected.

        do not flatter yourself ... most high-tech Pribluda on Vesta are foreign ... the paddlers only haven’t learned how to make motors, so they put Soviet ones ... and all the other Renault buckets on the B0 platform are assembled exclusively from Romanian parts. even stamping comes from there ... everything is actually dull and sad ... like the salary at the VAZ.
        1. +2
          13 March 2018 12: 04
          I will not argue with you, as you know better, but before that I had several foreign cars and when I bought spare parts for them I often found out that high-tech and not very stray can be made anywhere. and manufacturing companies like that didn’t bother ,!
          That's always surprising when they say: buckets from Renault. credit washes from Hyundai, and Ford. consumer goods from the Chinese, what’s the problem go and buy a BMW or Audi. which are not buckets, not garbage dumps, not consumer goods. the truth is three times more expensive and the service is not cheap!
          Regarding salaries in a vase. I know from several sources that they are different there! Salary is actually not taken from the ceiling. it is necessary to earn it. and to earn it is necessary that cars would be bought! and what to buy you need to do better than competitors.
          When I bought Vesta. talked to the manager. so he said. that the margin from Vesta Cross is minimal for the plant. And I was still surprised to think how it was like that: competitors with similar configurations cost under a million or even more. and then they kept within 800 and the car was bigger!
          1. +5
            13 March 2018 13: 22
            Quote: K.A.S.
            competitors in a similar configuration are worth a million or even more. and then they kept within 800 and the car was bigger!

            For 800 tyrov, instead of the pelvis, it’s Renault, it’s better to take stuffed rapid or even empty octavia. Save both money and nerves. IMHO personal experience request
            1. +5
              13 March 2018 13: 47
              One could add quite well-packed Solaris or Rio to this. Although a friend went to Duster 2 liters in December, they got almost full stuffing. They got out a little for 800. They found us in the rollercoat. In our country they were at least more expensive by stolnik and ordering laudatory odes to me, as a person working with cars every day, is completely incomprehensible, if only because God already knows how many analogs ride on our roads, which have proven themselves pretty well.
              1. +2
                13 March 2018 14: 20
                Solaris machine. with inflated prices. . puzoterka with a weak chassis. Yes, she infuriates me outwardly. Vyshtampovka - such a stream of urine along the side. pah. nasty stuff and the interior is small. and a torpedo in front of persons meter !!!!!
                thought about the duster. but this is a car for an amateur or love or dislike. and the price tag for horse parts. for 800 this is because the end of the year. and you need to get rid of last year’s cars. But was it not white? Duster is a separate song. but in picking what we needed for a million! and operation is not cheap!
                Odes of skill are not laudatory but truthful. just the difference between the news. Solaris Rio and other Logans did not notice, except for the price! so this is a conscious choice after comparing the price, the quality of the equipment of the Solaris. rio. rapid and other logans.
                1. 0
                  14 March 2018 03: 10
                  Well, the chassis is not weaker than on the same west. Moreover, in the last body it is much richer and more comfortable. Yes, and like ours developed two motors for it, thank God they removed the air flow meter, but this solution with swirl flaps is very doubtful, let's look at the bottom after 40-60k run. What is presented on the spot as a breakthrough already God knows how many cars exist on other cars. I understand that everyone will remain with his own. Someone likes oranges, and someone drawers from under them lol
              2. +4
                14 March 2018 05: 27
                Quote: Korax71
                comrade no more than in December went to choose Duster 2 liters, almost full stuffing. a little over 800 got out.

                Do not blow into your ears about Duster full stuffing for 800 in December 2017! At the official dealer in December 2015 I took a 2,0 889 set without special stages! And there is also a luxury privilege! Stuffing)))) Dreamer))) Storyteller and liar!
                1. 0
                  17 March 2018 16: 18
                  Don't blow hi December 17, white, 2 liters, on a stick, in front of electric windows, but if you didn’t know, you could agree with the manager and buy the car through an online store, yes !!! Renault has such a service even in Russia , well, a little bargaining, and the most important thing is to get a special offer at Rolf. I said somewhere about the officers ???? they have more than a steward more expensive. I read diagonally about all the trips and travel expenses , but it cost about 835 to eat. Under a lying stone, water does not flow. If there was a desire, I would have found it cheaper le.i what this manner of reproach someone because of their laziness?
                  1. +1
                    18 March 2018 08: 20
                    Quote: Korax71
                    with all the trips, the cost of the trip, but it cost to eat at 835.

                    Brad. And this is not “full stuffing!” If it’s white and sticky)) And what equipment? Authentic? Express? Privilege? Well, if authentic for 835, yes !!! Twisted people))))
          2. +6
            13 March 2018 17: 36
            Quote: K.A.S.
            Regarding salaries in a vase. I know from several sources that they are different there!

            The Fox above answered you about the components, but I will answer about the salary. Yes, Z \ P are different - on the conveyor 20-25 tr, and in the "candle" over 100 tr And believe me, the work is terrible on the conveyor belt, you can’t get a pee. I know for sure, because he worked.
            Quote: K.A.S.
            talked to the manager

            Is the manager so informed that he knows the amount of VAZ’s margin? belay You are either too gullible, or .... I do not want to offend you. hi
            1. +1
              13 March 2018 22: 05
              My friend does not want to insult you, but before you draw conclusions and put pictures you need to know the specifics of the manager. Moreover, writing about a specialty in which you most likely did not work, unlike me.
              1. +1
                14 March 2018 06: 49
                Quote: K.A.S.
                Moreover, writing about a specialty in which you most likely did not work, unlike me.

                Manager specialty? belay The specifics of the work of the trading manager is an increase in sales, and nothing more. What's in the VAZ candle, what's in your car dealership.
                And unlike you, my friends and acquaintances at VAZ work, including in a candle. hi
                1. +6
                  14 March 2018 07: 10
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  The specifics of the work of the trading manager is an increase in sales, and only

                  You, for example, even with a "sale" (for free, note) your "ideas" in the VO are already problems.
                  Doesn’t hint at anything?
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And unlike you, my friends and acquaintances work at VAZ,

                  About nothing. What kind of region are you there? wink
                  1. +2
                    14 March 2018 07: 18
                    You are Kitty’s master by writing comments without meaning! good
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Your "ideas" in

                    I do not sell anything, but only defend my opinion. You are in terms of career growth, work here. wink
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    About nothing. What kind of region are you there?

                    There is enough information from them. Or do you need financial documents in the studio? laughing
                    1. +6
                      14 March 2018 07: 23
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      You are Kitty’s master by writing comments without meaning!

                      You, Osya, have a problem with understanding. And this problem, it seems ... progresses.
                      You were told that the manager (even the corrupt one) is from you, like a dog’s sieve. Only request
                      It’s easy, right?
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      I do not sell anything, but only defend my opinion

                      Somewhat intrusive, IMHO.
                      This is what is called "selling" if you did not know Yes
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      You are in terms of career growth, work here

                      Zadolbali cardboard epaulettes and likes already. Like children, she’s right.
                      Do you want to give you? Helllessly?
                      1. +2
                        14 March 2018 07: 34
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        You were told that the manager (even the corrupt one) is from you, like a dog’s sieve.

                        On the basis of what you made such "smart" conclusions? lol
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Somewhat intrusive, IMHO.
                        This is what is called "selling" if you did not know

                        I will not explain the concept of the word “sale”; look at the explanatory dictionary. wink
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Do you want to give you? Helllessly?

                        Ask for Smirnov. I think in a personal request, he will not refuse you, and he will degrade. But imagine how you rise in the eyes of opponents? wink
                      2. +5
                        14 March 2018 07: 37
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        On the basis of what you made such "smart" conclusions?

                        All. "Medicine is powerless" request
                        He explained twice, sort of ...
                        Happily "fight", and I will go to earn a little money. Lazy, of course ... but necessary laughing
      3. +6
        13 March 2018 17: 30
        Quote: K.A.S.
        It is not made by our designers, engineers?

        Mostly the French worked, our STC was almost completely cheated. The news account for more than 50% consists of imported parts, X Ray for 70%. And there is also hidden import - this is when a Russian-made part is delivered to the conveyor, but the same is assembled using imported parts. hi
      4. +2
        14 March 2018 05: 24
        Quote: K.A.S.
        About the large assembly! take an interest in such a concept as localization and find out what percentage in our factories where foreign cars are collected.

        I have been interested for a long time ... Here are the engines that make Unas in Elabuga. on imported equipment, almost automated, even the crankcase is cast, also automatically. As a result, such an engine has a localization percentage of 35 percent, taking into account the energy spent on casting the crankcase, as well as the work of security guards and sweepers. When assembling Vesta, this engine is already considered as 100% ours! ..... Vesta is going to the platform and assembly line Renault Nissan. those. she did not see the labor of the designers of Russia. Designers from abroad. And the question, after all, is that Happiness is the feeling of the Perspective, Education is the possibility of the Perspective, and there is no demand for this very education !!!!
  6. +21
    13 March 2018 09: 27
    The strange thing is that everyone still believes that Putin is a lone warrior, "a good, kind king," "that the people will convey his aspirations to him and he will change everything ..." And this despite the fact that Putin himself I have repeatedly repeated in public that he is not responsible for the economic development of the country and that his duty is simply to be the guarantor of the Constitution, that is, to ensure that Russia does not deviate from the capitalist path of development, does not have any state ideology and is based on liberal values ​​are everything. More than once he said that on all economic issues it is necessary to turn to the Prime Minister and the Government, and not to the President.
    1. +5
      13 March 2018 17: 12
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      The strange thing is that everyone still believes that Putin is a lone warrior, "a good, kind king"

      Yes, nothing mystical ... If you watch TV .. and 99% of adults watch it one way or another ... then the only person who says smart things, does real things, is witty jokes, looks worthy of it .... guess who? The rest are "smeared" ... EVERYTHING .. What to pretend to be, it's mysticism. People for the image receive money of norms ... this is work, not mysticism ... I found the same thing, Cagliostro.
  7. +1
    13 March 2018 10: 19
    For 10 years, the Rusnano Corporation has created 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters "from scratch"
    The debate about what role the state should play in creating an innovative economy has not stopped for years. An objective assessment of the Russian experience in high-tech government investment is possible using the example of RUSNANO formed just over 10 years ago.
    The creation of the Rusnanotech corporation in 2007 cost the treasury 130 billion rubles. An alternative to this decision was the replenishment of the Reserve Fund. Now, of course, this money would not be in the way of the Ministry of Finance, but would it last for a long time? If we consider that the federal budget expenditures in the “three-year period” from 2017 to 2019 are set at 16 trillion rubles, then 130 billion rubles would be enough for the country for three days.
    For the past three years, the company has reported profit under IFRS. This means that many projects have been successful, the profit from their implementation has paid off the remaining investments. Official data indicate that over 10 years the Group has created 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters built by RUSNANO for the most part from scratch. The annual turnover of portfolio companies exceeds 350 billion, and over 10 years has reached 1,4 trillion rubles. By the end of 2016 alone, in the form of taxes to the budgets of various levels, the state received 80 billion rubles from portfolio companies. This year, this figure should reach 104 billion rubles. Another year or two, and the initial investment will pay off only through tax revenues.
    However, for the state financial return should not play and never played a decisive role. The side effects are much more important, for example, the creation of a nanotechnological products market. According to the research company DISCOVERY Research Group, its volume in Russia is 4,4 trillion rubles. But how comparable is the quality and technological level of the domestic nanoindustry to world analogues? According to RUSNANO, on average about 20% of the products of portfolio companies are exported. According to the report for 2016, this figure amounted to 53 billion rubles, and if you add this figure over several years, you get 136 billion rubles. This figure is an objective indicator that the enterprises built by RUSNANO are able to successfully compete in the global market.
    Another curious indicator from the category of concomitant effects is 33,4 billion rubles, which RUSNANO project companies sent to research. Private investments in R&D are not only encouraging in themselves, but also serve as proof that the players of the relatively young nanoindustry intend to play long.
    Skeptics argue that without private investors, an innovative economy cannot be built. The RUSNANO leadership does not argue with this. The new business model provides for investment through funds that are formed, inter alia, at the expense of private investors. By the end of 2017, 7 new funds were created. For two years, a record 49 billion rubles have been raised from outside investors. This year RUSNANO plans to bring the total amount of attracted investments in new funds to 60 billion rubles.
    For the money that the state could “eat” in three days, the country received a mechanism capable of generating taxes, innovative solutions, and creating tens of thousands of highly qualified jobs. Against the backdrop of the 10-year stagnation of the Russian economy, which actually coincided with the existence of RUSNANO, the result looks quite good.
    1. +2
      13 March 2018 10: 50
      a superficial article, designed for people who are too lazy to check information, and to be interested in details and reports, the main thing is to point out theft to couch economists and patriots!
      Thank you for the detailed comment !!! Well, I think he will not play a role! people are mostly susceptible to the simple and understandable. And Vproho some investments, portfolios. nanotechnology! it is easier to please a layman-thieves' power, stole, the Unified State Examination sucks, dumb youth, Chubais is a pest !!!
      at the beginning of the article, the author sprinkles with numbers, for example, that an exoskeleton costs 1,5 million rubles and this is a drawback. I want to ask local experts about how much a high-tech product should cost at the beginning of its production?
    2. +14
      13 March 2018 11: 19
      Quote: RedFox11
      Against the backdrop of the 10-year stagnation of the Russian economy, which actually coincided with the existence of RUSNANO, the result looks quite good.

      I’m climbing something on an Internet, I’m looking for effective nanoscale enterprises, but I come across more
      1. +1
        13 March 2018 13: 51
        Sorry that a little off topic, but tempting to ask feel on the avatar of krugergan ??? if it's not your secret or just like the photo?
        1. +2
          13 March 2018 17: 39
          Quote: Korax71
          krugergan

          He is in my opinion.
        2. +1
          13 March 2018 20: 58
          Quote: Korax71
          on the avatar krugergan ??

          yes, my toy, in a crocodile, I have two of them, child and dad
  8. +9
    13 March 2018 10: 36
    Remember the song of the fox Alice and the cat Basilio?
    About the "field of miracles" in the "country of fools" ........
    Here it is.....
  9. +9
    13 March 2018 10: 47
    Quote: K.A.S.
    what you wrote
    Quote: Cheerful
    Practice shows that ANY redistribution carried out by government officials is inefficient and enriches not society, but redistribution.

    this is liberalism! The commentators on VO are generally mountainous for state regulation, so that the state builds schools and parades, and officials distribute the money fairly!

    And you name at least one state where everything is left to chance. In the USA, the Reserve Fund reports every twelve days. Each cent is counted. And we have a huge horde of officials, and money flows past our Reserve
    Fund.
    1. +11
      13 March 2018 10: 55
      Well, why does the accounting chamber conduct audits, identify billions of dollars in shortfalls / "inefficient use of funds", but then "stopmash" - criminal cases are not opened or go down on the brakes, if they find the perpetrators, they give very ridiculous terms and those are "conditionally" .
      In general, the problem is impunity.
  10. +3
    13 March 2018 11: 16
    Learning from other countries is not shameful. Such a policy has been since the time of Peter and Queen Elizabeth, when sent abroad
    talented guys, regardless of origin. You need to find talent among the people. Shame. Of our graduates, only five
    percent find a job, and even that is not a specialty. And the rest, as lucky. And these are graduates of prestigious universities.
  11. +8
    13 March 2018 11: 31
    But while the same figure of Chubais is behind Skolkovo and Rosnano, one should not hope for progress. It is not for this that Mr. Chubais is put up.

    There is nothing to argue. The situation with school education and textbooks is annoying. We must return to the Soviet system.
    1. +10
      13 March 2018 11: 54
      what’s most interesting - everyone says what is needed, but no one does anything in this direction ...
      1. +2
        13 March 2018 17: 19
        Quote: faiver
        what’s most interesting - everyone says what is needed, but no one does anything in this direction ...

        It is with this that Putin goes for a new term !!!! Russia is waiting for a new round of history !!!
        1. +6
          13 March 2018 17: 50
          Remind me what he went to previous terms? :)
  12. +7
    13 March 2018 12: 46
    Quote: Greenwood
    Personally, I do not see any mysticism here. Putin is a man from the Yeltsin team, tucked up by Sobchak and Berezovsky with the approval of the same Chubais. And the fact that he, through the efforts of PR specialists, built himself the image of the coolest savior of Russia over these 18 years, does not cancel the previous fact and the facts of his support of people from this team. But here, unfortunately, a significant part of the population separates the good Putin from the bad oligarchs, thieves-ministers and multibillionaires-heads of state corporations.

    Yes good hi
  13. +1
    13 March 2018 12: 47
    If it’s serious, then first you need to teach children to think with an expanded imagination based on mathematical methods of big data analysis. Only then will an inexhaustible storehouse of ideas and solutions in all areas of knowledge open. Analysis methods for functions of a constant value of a number can create a completely new person, corresponding to the level and modern development, and most importantly of the future, which is characterized by a high capacity of events, its dynamism, contrast, etc.
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  15. +12
    13 March 2018 12: 59
    RedFox11 Today, 10:19 am New
    For 10 years, the Rusnano Corporation has created 95 enterprises and 15 nanocenters "from scratch"
    List of enterprises in the "studio", pliiz - I want to see what they are famous for! wassat
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  17. +5
    13 March 2018 13: 19
    So while the pro-Western Leberast upstairs, it will be so! Everything as they have, huge grandmothers stand out to tipananauchnichnyh sharagami and they .... invent glasses for a mole or a rear-view mirror for gulls ... and to no avail ... and about 5-10 years ... But it masters the grandmother and gives reports to the mountain that just about ... some more ... almost done ...
  18. +5
    13 March 2018 13: 46
    And what do you want from a very tolerant right-wing government, they have exactly ZASHKVAR and they really want the whole population to OPARAFIN. such a word is not studied school slang ?? Looking at these words, I definitely know in WHICH SCHOOLS teachers from vocational schools named after Medvedev studied.
  19. +2
    13 March 2018 13: 54
    Horror! How to save children when they are a third of life in school and a third on the street?
  20. +3
    13 March 2018 15: 35
    Dear, moderator. Please explain the reason for deleting my comment. Which rule did I break?
    Why did I fall out of favor ???
    (For the umpteenth time).
    Or I’m not verb
    What angered you so much ???
    1. 0
      13 March 2018 17: 17
      Quote: AA17
      Or I’m not verb

      You need to filter the verb, go and do not liberalism here))))
  21. 0
    13 March 2018 17: 17
    Russia is directly ruled by God. And if this is not so, then it is not at all clear how it exists.
  22. +3
    13 March 2018 18: 59
    This yaklass “Yaklass” is also paid, if you want to know the correct answer)))
    1. +3
      13 March 2018 19: 34
      At the word "education" I want to grab the gun, so you can rephrase Goebbels's word. But here firewood is broken on both fronts, as are the supporters of the Bologna system, and those who advocate the return of the Soviet system. I recently, with bulging eyes, watched an "educational" cartoon funded and approved by the ROC "Children Against Wizards", designed to protect the influence of "Westernism" on Russian children - look, too, ofigete. If propaganda is conducted like this, as in this cartoon, then this will only cause rejection of such propaganda among children ....
    2. +4
      13 March 2018 19: 44
      List of 95 enterprises. built by Rusnano is probably a secret. fails to fish him out on the internet
      1. 0
        14 March 2018 09: 04
        He is nano lol not find him wassat
  23. +2
    13 March 2018 19: 29
    It is fashionable now to ask why these people are so drawn to the image of Stalin. Skolkovo, the Higher School of Economics and other similar offices should be seriously reformed. They really need Stalin.
  24. 0
    13 March 2018 21: 34
    This is beyond comprehension ... Secret intention.
  25. +1
    13 March 2018 22: 06
    Putin is a Chubais product.
  26. 0
    14 March 2018 15: 04
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    All. "Medicine is powerless"

    Only you Kitty is not a doctor, but a quack! laughing And you are trying to explain the lack of logic in your commentary by the stupidity of your opponent. hi
  27. +1
    14 March 2018 15: 35
    Today I went to a friend, life is vain, figs you will find time. We are standing, talking, I’m somehow uncomfortable. I’m saying, Igor, you have one letter missing in your ad. He laughed, and said: Volodya, for 3 years, you are the second who noticed. The reason, unfortunately, to visit, was sad, two senior comrades, an old school, passed away. And so we meet, intermediaries to each other. And with Scoop, in every book, if there was a typo, there was a footnote, where and how. There is no doubt for me where the education was better, but damn it! It's a shame for the Power! Sorry for the confusion! fool
  28. 0
    15 March 2018 09: 34
    Quote: Balu
    But while the same figure of Chubais is behind Skolkovo and Rosnano, one should not hope for progress. It is not for this that Mr. Chubais is put up.

    There is nothing to argue. The situation with school education and textbooks is annoying. We must return to the Soviet system.

    The Soviet system is a phantom. Simply from this system you need to choose the most necessary for the present day, and not to bury and sell.
  29. 0
    17 March 2018 02: 15
    Quote: naidas
    The speed of one cyclist is 200m \ min, and the other is 300m \ min


    So what? 12 kilometers per hour, and 18 kilometers per hour. Normal bike speed.
  30. 0
    21 March 2018 08: 36
    Each vegetable has its own time. At a time when the whole country expects the construction of industrial enterprises with the latest
    technologies. I do not understand the wide activity of Rusnano. Maybe I do not understand something. But in my opinion, it's like giving
    Vitamin to a hungry man. In the comments, the role of a manager was discussed. In my opinion, their work comes down to the routine reporting work on the sold product. Compare the American management agent. "I have to sell the Eskimo a refrigerator,
    otherwise my work is worthless. Why are such expectations of return from VAZ? Because it’s a satellite city created for the automotive industry. The intervention of dishonest people has unsettled the clear mechanism of this giant. If he
    worked continuously, the country would have a world-class car. This is an unrealized project.
    modern industry.
  31. 0
    21 March 2018 18: 20
    Any research and development institution should work on the orders of ministries. For example, the city of Norilsk
    buried in inclement weather in a fog saturated with sulfur gas. Yes and copper smelters, probably, until the whole shift
    breathe with a pipe in his mouth. If this is not the case, and the workers work in white coats, spit in my face. In the 70s of the last century Trudeau came to Norilsk, he was met by Kosygin. From the Canadian side there was a proposal to build a new plant. They showed on TV Canadian workshops, and ours only drooled. The contract did not work out. Why the order or task is so important. Even in Soviet times, half of January, the workers hung around the workshop without receiving a new order. Under the current bureaucratic machine, the enterprise would be closed. Take the WHA. If unscrupulous leaders had not intervened there, VAZ would have produced world-class cars. Now everything
    market economists saw the reason for the low GDP in the small population. The way out of this situation is the influx of literate migrants. I wonder what was the GDP in ancient Egypt?

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