Modi called France one of the most reliable defense partners

The government of India considers France as one of its most reliable partners in the field of military-technical cooperation. RIA News Statement by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

Our cooperation in the defense sector is very rich and deep, and we regard France as one of our most reliable partners in this field.

said Modi, whose words are confined to the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron that is taking place these days.

He recalled that India and France have close cooperation in the production of military products, and the military of the two countries regularly conduct joint maneuvers.

We welcome the commitment of France to the principle of “Do it in India” as regards the implementation of projects in the military-technical sphere. I believe that the agreement on providing logistic support to the armies of the two countries signed today is a turning point in stories our close military cooperation,

said the prime minister.

He stressed that India and France will continue to develop cooperation "in all areas, including in the field of maritime safety, management of marine resources, and freedom of navigation."

For this reason, today we will publish a document on a joint strategic vision of our future cooperation in the Indian Ocean. Finally, we believe that the most important dimension of our successful bilateral relations in the future are contacts between people, especially between the younger generation,

added modi.

Comments

[Herculesic]

As I listen to him all the Indians have friends, they will soon run to the Chinese to bow. He wants to buy more and cheaper weapons, so he is fawning.

[hrych]

Modi, of course, well done, requires production at home. So Bramos was born, for example, don’t worry about Russia, we have a contract with India on an aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines, tanks and planes, the market is excellent, it will soon challenge the world economy and the oceans, there are absolutely no contradictions with Russia.

[Chertt]

Quote: hrych

There is absolutely no contradiction with the Russian Federation.

In addition to Indian cunning

[hrych]

Quote: Chertt

In addition to Indian cunning

Their trick, of course, is children's I really hoped that we would quarrel with the aircraft carrier and he would stay with us however, of course, we can build a couple for the money we earn, profit from deck aircraft, plus a bunch of hidden training contracts, instructors, consumables, repairs, spare parts, weapons, ammunition, etc., etc. are also added.

[Chertt]

Quote: hrych

I really hoped that we would quarrel with the aircraft carrier and he would stay with us

Are you in a hurry with the Aircraft Carrier? Although I am an optimist, there is no exact information

[hrych]

In 2013, transferred to India, everything was gone ... like under 20 Migov-29 and under 10 turntables K-28 to it

[Chertt]

I thought you were working together on a new type of aircraft carrier

[Anyone]

Not at all. India is simply responding to Russia's rapprochement with Pakistan and China, and accordingly, seeks to diversify arms imports. Everything is logical. No "trickery".

[Setrac]

Quote: Anyone

India is simply responding to Russia's rapprochement with Pakistan and China, and accordingly, seeks to diversify arms imports.

India seeks to diversify independently of Russia's relationship with Pakistan and China.

[Cxnumx]

Quote: Anyone

India is simply reacting to Russia's rapprochement with Pakistan and China, and accordingly, is striving to diversify arms imports. Everything is logical. No "trickery".

with Pakistan, it’s rather the other way around - it is Russia that has drawn closer to it amid India’s "cunning", they diversify too much, buying often more expensive equipment with lower requirements. on the same deal with rafals - did they really get technology with them?

[Cutter]

as one of its most reliable partners in the field of military-technical cooperation

I suspect that Russia is not more reliable ...

[Alex777]

How ours worried about the French reputation after the refusal to supply the Mistrals. And it turned out ...
As for our after-sales service, it was never good there.

[Finches]

The head of state can afford such a liberty! And quite deservedly. He didn’t offend anyone with this statement, and therefore it is not necessary to betray the importance of seeking secret intent. Visiting Zimbabwe tomorrow, he can say the same thing - it completely determines the true political face of the Head of State and often these are not public remarks ...

[vlad66]

Well, as with the “Rafals,” the Frenchmen twisted their hands, so immediately

We welcome France’s commitment to the Do-In-India principle with regard to military-technical projects

[Tiksi-3]

but I remember when the guests of the site argued that without putting us the Mistral - France has lost confidence in the world .... now it's my turn to giggle ..... and everyone who has posted a heresy is discouraged!

[AID.S]

Quote: Tiksi-3

now it's my turn to giggle ..

So said Zarathustra !!!!

[helmi8]

Quote: Tiksi-3

but I remember when the guests of the site argued that without putting us the Mistral - France has lost confidence in the world .... now it's my turn to giggle

Yes, you can giggle as much as you like - it’s not about deliveries, but about “Do it in India,” that is. selling production.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: helmi8

it’s not about deliveries, but about “Do it in India,” that is. selling production.

Well, yes, well, yes .... believe in what you yourself have come up with ..

[izya top]

well, very reliable ... Russia and Australia can confirm as well as Gaddafi

[hrych]

Mistrals were sorely lacking and lacking in the Syrian Express, however, the Russian Federation did receive a number of shipbuilding technologies, returned the currency when it doubled in the domestic market, received international contracts with Egypt, including an air wing (K-52). unhappiness, but happiness helped. They returned the loot, they also sold helicopters, and also did not take landing boats near the Mistral from the French, but made their own, better.

[Rurikovich]

Quote: hrych

Mistral was very lacking and lacking in the Syrian Express

It is not necessary to drive the BDK in the Syrian Express and hastily bought (leased) third-class ancient ships, but to have large-capacity (relative to the BDK) high-speed supply vessels for the delivery of goods and equipment as part of the Fleet. Then the motor resource of the ancient BDK will be more complete, and even more cargo on one flight will be more profitable

[donavi49]

The creation of the ship + preparation for construction + construction + 2 year of force majeure and dopilok = total war will end.

In theory, it would be pragmatic to buy a river-sea RSD49 / 59.
They are serial - they are being built by a bunch of river shipyards, Sormovo, Nevsky, Nobel, they are even made nearby in Astrakhan on the Lotus. They cost a penny.

3 holds - at least load tanks, at least container, at least pallets.
Plus, you can still dock the slide (in marine deadweight it will replace for the 2 flight the most capacious naval BDK of the Tapir type).

Yes, it has a lot of flaws. Yes, he is not marine enough. It does not have its own means of unloading (that is, it requires crane infrastructure or a crane - which by the way is already in Tartus, however, the purchased secondary also has this drawback). It has a low speed (but again, it is purchased not faster, and the BDKs also go at the same speed).

[donavi49]

But if it’s multifunctional, then it would be possible to exchange% of the exchange of goods for Sushki, not for palm oil, but for Makassar or its new version MRSS. The issue price is up to 50 million for the good old Makassar or 65 for MRSS.
But this is an adult paratrooper, with helicopters, a spacious platform for 2-3 cars and a hangar, a landing battalion, equipment, 2 TDK in the docking chamber, a separate cargo deck for equipment or containers.

[SOF]

Quote: donavi49

But this is an adult paratrooper, with helicopters, a spacious platform for 2-3 cars and a hangar, a landing battalion, equipment, 2 TDK in the docking chamber, a separate cargo deck for equipment or containers.

... then finish the flight decks, redraw the hangars for our dragonflies, finish the holds and ramps for our equipment?
BU, let alone not ours, there is BU ....- not a solution to the problem, IMHO .... naturally ...

[donavi49]

There are even more take-off areas than necessary (in the western dimension).
The hangar is not a problem, there is just a hangar in the superstructure. No elevators or deck lifting.
Ramps - so under our equipment, the full-time group of Makassarov BMP-3F + M-113. They also drove Leo2A4 and the Black Tigers (their light tank to replace the PT-76).

The only real problem that cannot be fixed is the Arctic class. There is only a global alteration, which means a new project and other money.

But for the southern group with the location of the SPM-Black Sea Fleet and the projection zone to Africa / Middle East / India = this is not necessary.

As for used, I did not understand at all. The b / y just bought the MO - as a result, the 2 ship has already died (they have not been at sea for more than a year), the 1 ship is under repair, the 2 on the go on the 1 flight per month.

All that I wrote new with a period of 12-18 months from the contract:
Sormovo, Nevsky or Lotus will build RSD in 12-14 months - in fact they are doing it in series right now for private customers.

PT PAL - A new Makassar or MRSS will be built in 16-18 months. Moreover, even money can not be paid, instead of palm oil for Su-35. The issue price is up to 50mln for just Makassar, 65 for MRSS. Makassar is now building units for Peru 2, transferring the second unit for the Philippines. Universal MRSS build for Malaysia. at the shipyards PT PAL.

The main plus of these options is a guaranteed ship in the foreseeable future. No cost overruns and postponements.

[SOF]

... almost convinced ...
And what is the standard weaponry of this miracle?

[Varna]

Quote: hrych

Mistrals were sorely lacking and lacking in the Syrian Express, however, the Russian Federation did receive a number of shipbuilding technologies, returned the currency when it doubled in the domestic market, received international contracts with Egypt, including an air wing (K-52). unhappiness, but happiness helped. They returned the loot, they also sold helicopters, and also did not take landing boats near the Mistral from the French, but made their own, better.

As I understand it, the non-purchased Mistrals greatly contributed to the start of production of thermal imagers in the Russian Federation. Until 2014, Russia did not produce them (more precisely, did not produce the most high-tech component - uncooled microbolometric receivers). They were produced in the world by three countries: France (firm Tales), Israel and, naturally, the USA. So, in 2016 in Russia, suddenly, the production of uncooled microbolometric receivers (the heart of a thermal imager) began. US or Israel transferred technology? Very doubtful. There remains the French firm Tales, which perhaps someone really asked about it. Against this background, it is now becoming clear why the Russian side did not sue the non-delivery of the Mistrals and generally hushed up this case.
So thanks to the Mistrals - now with domestic thermal imaging sights we will))).

[demo]

Recall that Russia signed a contract with France for the construction and supply of two Mistral helicopter carriers in 2011. Russia paid an advance of 892,9 million euros, and also incurred the cost of training the crew, building the infrastructure for the ship in Vladivostok and creating four prototypes of carrier-based Ka-52K helicopters. In total, it is 1,163 billion euros.

Due to the situation with the Crimea and Ukraine, Paris refused to fulfill the contract. The parties agreed to return the money paid by Moscow. France returned 949 754 859 euros.

I wonder where is the profit? I see losses.

It is not worth talking about the fact that we converted rubles into currency, and then converted back.
MO has enough funds in accounts abroad.
So they paid.
And funds were returned to the same accounts.
This follows from the fact that an extra dollar in the Russian Federation is a violation of the harmony of the world outlook of the Central Bank.
They will lay down with bones, but they will not allow it.
We, like schoolchildren with ears, drive bullshit, and we substitute ears for noodles.

All right.
Got the technology. So what?
Has anyone heard about the laying of a new ship with the declared characteristics?
Me not.
So we needed them.
And why do we need them at all, if there is another problem - the lack of fuel of appropriate quality in the Russian Federation?
There is only one answer - Putin appreciated Sarkozy’s gesture for reconciling the parties (Russia and Georgia).
If everyone sat quietly under the benches, then we would have to take Tbilisi, catch Saakashvili, judge him, deal with Georgians, etc. Did we need this?
And our shobla was not ready for such a development of events then (and even now is not ready). For Ukraine would have been sorted out a long time ago. And Yanukovych would be sitting in Kiev, and not on Rublevka.
And the last.
In the ranking of countries that "roll back" to customers for military orders, France ranks first.
Draw conclusions.

[Setrac]

Quote: hrych

Mistral was very lacking and lacking in the Syrian Express

В
The Syrian Express of Russia lacked transports, and not helicopter carriers at all.

[hrych]

Quote: Setrac

not enough transports, not helicopter carriers at all.

It is a floating dock and can transport goods at a time, like our 4 BDKs, also has a drop-down hull, internal, heavy lifts, etc., which is ideal for loading and unloading, no port cranes are required, and the port is not required.

[210ox]

They haven’t thrown them with the “Rafals” yet? .. After the situation with the “Mistrals”, the Indians need to be careful in foreign policy .. In order not to succeed. The paddlers are very “faithful partners” ..

[Chertt]

Quote: 210ox

After the Mistral situation

The topic of discussion is old. But it’s good for Russia that it happened with the Mistrals

[Sergey D_2]

Quote: Chertt

Quote: 210ox

After the Mistral situation

The topic of discussion is old. But it’s good for Russia that it happened with the Mistrals

Right now, the Syrian highways would be great.

[assa67]

A theater of operations in the Indian Ocean is far from us ... and we have "land" contracts with the Indians, it will be difficult for the paddlers to push us in this matter ...

[Non liberoid Russian]

reliable partners ... as the owners in Washington say so the frogmen will ride ... I remember Medvedev spoke of them the same way, until they threw them with the Mistrals

[donavi49]

India has no interests against the United States. On the contrary, the main strategic threats - they have actually approved by the United States. Therefore, they can be calm.

[mavrus]

Now the Indians in France are arranging a scam. Stocked up with popcorn :)))

[beeper]

Something Modi is clearly disingenuous , apparently embarrassed all over the world, with “Mistrals” as megaUnreliable “partners in the defense sphere”, the French offered him a solid concession, so that he joyfully forgot about their low-base “partner image” ?!

[jovanni]

Quote: pishchak

apparently embarrassed to the whole world, with the “Mistrals” as megaUnreliable “partners in the defense sphere”, the French offered him a solid concession,

They didn’t embarrass anything. To deceive Russia - this is regarded in the West as "steepness" and the triumph of the great mind of a Western man over an ingenuous barbarian ...

[kit88]

Yes, just the same embarrassed. Who is buying weapons? Not the West, but the Indians, Arabs, Negroes. And according to your statement, throwing them is regarded as steepness - the triumph of a great Western mind over barbarians. :) :) :)

[dog breeder]

East is a delicate matter. Their concept of honor is very different from ours. Even death is understood in different ways.

[polpot]

Why, without fear of sin,
Does the cuckoo praise the Rooster?
For praising the Cuckoo.

[kit88]

Mentioning France in conjunction with a Trusted Partner is causing laughter worldwide.

[Dormidont]

Life teaches them nothing

[ul_vitalii]

Some yummy broke off, caught and received.

[Govorun]

Modi called France one of the most reliable partners in the defense sector ....
YES, YES, YES ... exactly as long as the US says NO ... naive Indian boys.

[donavi49]

Hindus are tough against China - before the shootings. Therefore, the United States will welcome any arms supplies to India. Especially if not from Russia (money not to Russia).

[23424636]

the Indians are still those flatterers, there was such a case: -one plant signed contracts for the supply of rolls of rolling mills, these sophisticated convinced negotiators to sign a guarantee for 10 years of operation! ? 9.5 years passed and then these turban-bearers wrote off guarantees and collected their money without even notifying the supplier of the fact of marriage. .Of course, the old friendship with the USSR, which allowed them to easily overwhelm East Pakistan and intensify resistance to China, is not forgotten. but still a very complex customer.

[SOF]

Quote: 23424636

but still a very complex customer.

... yes, and the dog with them ...
The main thing is that, thanks to their cunning, we, at a certain time, preserved our armored industry ...

[Berkut24]

Modi probably doesn’t know what place in these times they are sticking multi-vector.

[alex007i]

Bhagavanov Orevoire can visit at the most unexpected moment.

[weddu]

India and China are eternal rivals with mutual territorial claims. If Russia again began to supply China with the most advanced weapons, which even in Russia are small, even knowing that China will copy it 100% ... What is India to think? The fact that India is merging our US technology is also 100% fact ....

[rehev931]

Quote: Alex777

How ours worried about the French reputation after the refusal to supply the Mistrals. And it turned out ...
As for our after-sales service, it was never good there.

and the Hindu Frogs have not yet thrown, just like the Mistals! since Americans are more focused on Pakistan, they can again bend the French

[nathanael]

France’s commitment to the Do-It-Yourself Principle in India- ......... And as for the rafals, they threw it.

[wicked pinnochio]

so to take something from these brahmanas they are always ours and yours

[Guillon]

Modi turned a blind eye to the betrayal of France in the person of Sarkozy and what he did with Libya and Gaddafi! And what did France do with "our" Mistrals? !!
The litter of Americans, by definition, cannot be a reliable partner! Modi with Macrushnik is talking! The only question is time and opportunity!