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Musk has published a new video of the launch of the rocket with the car Tesla Roadster

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The head of SpaceX, Ilon Musk, posted on Twitter a new video launch of the launch of the Falcon Heavy with the Tesla Roadster car, held in early February, reports RIA News.




Why Falcon Heavy and Starman (dummy, sitting behind the wheel of a car)? Life cannot be just a solution to one boring problem after another. It should contain things that inspire you, thanks to which you happily wake up in the morning and become part of humanity. That's why we did it. We did it for you,
wrote the head of the American company.

The video presented was created by friend Mask director Jonathan Nolan.

This is not a movie trailer. This is not a trailer for TV shows. We hope that this will be a trailer for one part of the next chapter of human stories,
Nolan said after showing a video at the South by Southwest annual festival on Saturday.



The video includes new footage that the public has not yet seen. “They show preparation for launch, the reaction and exultation of the audience, the launch of a rocket into space and video footage of Tesla Roadster flying in space with a dummy at the wheel. In addition, the video shows the time of the crash of the central accelerator of the first stage of the Falcon Heavy launch vehicle that failed to land on a floating platform, crashed into the waters of the Atlantic Ocean at a speed of more than 480 kilometers per hour and crashed, ”The Verge writes.

Recall, the launch of the newest carrier rocket Falcon Heavy took place in early February from the launch site at Cape Canaveral (Florida). The side blocks of the rocket returned to Earth shortly after launch, and the central one crashed during landing.
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  1. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 March 2018 12: 18
    +34
    Without any fanfare, in early March, Space-IH launched the anniversary 50 Falcon-9.
    A satellite weighing in 6 t the size of a bus was successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 11 March 2018 12: 23
      +32
      Minivan or something this time? And to the super-heavy rocket right away, Abrams will hang up - a space version, with a rocket engine? Russia is the only country in the world that creates a fundamentally new weapon, while the Yankees are doing nothing more than a show, but a rotten Klaunade!
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        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 11 March 2018 13: 21
          +9
          Yes, they are not proud of their standard of living.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 12 March 2018 15: 24
            +1
            only in Russia there are homeless people, because Putin!

        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 11 March 2018 13: 34
          +19
          Quote: sefevi
          People are proud of their standard of living.

          Tell the bums American)))
          1. flicker
            flicker 11 March 2018 14: 45
            +4
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Quote: sefevi
            People are proud of their standard of living.

            Tell the bums American)))


            For example, recourse
        3. sir_obs
          sir_obs 11 March 2018 13: 35
          +17
          People are proud of their standard of living, good living and working conditions,


          And how many of these people as a percentage of the population? But what about the pillars of the poor sleeping on the street? Are they proud too?
          No need to drive the blizzard, about the standard of living. It used to be that we evaluated it from Amer’s films, now is not the time to hang noodles over your ears.
          1. My doctor
            My doctor 11 March 2018 16: 19
            +4
            Quote: sir_obs
            And how many of these people as a percentage of the population? But what about the pillars of the poor sleeping on the street? Are they proud too?
            No need to drive the blizzard, about the standard of living. It used to be that we evaluated it from Amer’s films, now is not the time to hang noodles over your ears.

            All those who left Russia for Europe with one voice say, "You can’t even imagine how badly you live here."
            Who to believe? TV or familiar and distant relatives? I find it difficult to answer.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 11 March 2018 17: 12
              +8
              There is a flip side. Many are returning. Who to believe? And why are you in Belarus escho, if you feel so bad, but in Europe a paradise? Because neither you nor I are needed there. By the way, they say there is an option if you declare that you are a fagot and oppress you. If you want, then you can dare.
            2. Korax71
              Korax71 11 March 2018 23: 00
              +1
              Someone just doesn't fly back in caravans. I also have familiar patriots who have been living in Germany for 10 years already. E, once a year they come to visit us, tell us how bad it is, what kind of cattle there are, what a good mother Russia is. Every year they say that’s bad, let's throw it all back. We’ll only know who will pay the peasant 300 Euros for the flight on the long request and so they are patriots to the marrow of the bones. although the GDP formulation about low social responsibility is more suitable for such people.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 12 March 2018 12: 52
                +1
                You, I look clung to me. Okay, are you measuring everything in euros? So either do it yourself, or move where it is. Since neither one nor the other, then whine not just live.
        4. poquello
          poquello 11 March 2018 14: 03
          +4
          Quote: sefevi
          although I don’t think that Russia has something that Americans do not have

          you better not think at all
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          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 14: 09
            +10
            Quote: sabakina
            rats climbed ....

            Do not offend smart animals.
            What you said are cockroaches ...
            Welcome hi
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 11
              +7
              Greetings to Roman! Yes, I don’t even know what to call these?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 14: 12
                +9
                Quote: sabakina
                I don’t even know what to call these?

                Only without a damn thing! Moderator does not sleep laughing
                Although, I admit, sometimes I really want to repeat
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 11 March 2018 21: 19
            +12
            Quote: sabakina
            Quote: sefevi
            When you have people like Musk, Gates, etc., then you will have the moral right to denigrate the great achievements of ALL mankind. Although this seems never to be!
            Oh, the rats climbed ....

            Yes, where are we, Sivolapim ... Everyone, except Russia, has long known that Marconi invented the radio, Edison bulb, and Sikorsky fed milk from mares in Texas, Zvarykin from somewhere in the Mississippi, and Hitler was defeated by America, and the first man in space is an American ....
            All listed that we did not invent or what else remained ???? lol
        6. Winnie76
          Winnie76 11 March 2018 14: 06
          +12
          Quote: sefevi
          People are proud of their standard of living, good living and working conditions, long life, and here ... WEAPONS

          My grandfather as a kid, standing on a box, sharpened blanks in besieged Leningrad. TELL HIM ABOUT COMFORT, Woodpecker.
          Quote: sefevi
          although I don’t think that Russia has something that the Americans do not have. This is at least. Envy silently.

          I ... what are you thinking about.
          Quote: sefevi
          Some comments only cause contempt!

          For example yours
          Quote: sefevi
          When you have people like Musk, Gates, etc., then you will have the moral right to denigrate the great achievements of ALL mankind.

          The main achievement of these ghouls - unleashed wars around the world and a machine for green paper, helping to rob the planet.
        7. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 11 March 2018 14: 19
          +7
          Okay, "comrades" from Israel. They even have industry. And standard of living. What do you have? Tea, coffee, pasties? So envy silently.
          1. vatrpas
            vatrpas 11 March 2018 14: 38
            +2
            They have I. Aliyev.
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 11 March 2018 17: 10
              +1
              And now Mehriban Aliyeva. laughing
        8. flicker
          flicker 11 March 2018 14: 55
          +10
          People are proud of their standard of living,
          Is it in Azerbaijan or in the USA? Occupy Wall Street to help you. There is probably no more police state in the world than the USA.
          UN Special Rapporteur on extreme poverty, Philip Allston, said after a visit to the United States that one in eight Americans is below the poverty line.
          “The American dream is rapidly turning into an American illusion. This happens due to the fact that now in the USA people have the lowest opportunities to improve their social status in comparison with any other rich country in the world, ”Alston said in his report.
          More than 40 million people live below the poverty line ... and examples of such in the USA are a wagon and a small cart.
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 11 March 2018 23: 04
            0
            And below the poverty line, they have an income of not more than 800 Baku per family member recourse if we compare that the average salary in the Russian Federation can be a little over 500 bucks, then we have 70 percent of the poor, and they have 12 percent belay
        9. starogil
          starogil 11 March 2018 17: 42
          +5
          Well, what is the standard of living of about 50 million US citizens becoming
          in line for free food? Isn’t it enough to talk about good living conditions,
          sleeping under bridges in TV boxes, about GDP of more than $ 50 per
          soul ......?
        10. Setrac
          Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 00
          +3
          Quote: sefevi
          I don’t think that Russia has something that Americans do not have

          Russia has honor and dignity. For the sake of the "standard of living", Russians do not destroy peoples and do not destroy countries.
          Quote: sefevi
          Envy silently.

          Well, of course, an electric car in orbit - there is something to envy laughing
          Quote: sefevi
          When you get people like Musk, Gates, etc.,

          Well, here you generally compared
          Quote: sefevi
          the great achievements of ALL mankind.

          I repeat once again - they launched the CAR into orbit !!! Now it remains to launch the paver team. This is your mask such a nerd.
      2. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 11 March 2018 12: 58
        +9
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Minivan or something this time? And to the super-heavy rocket right away, Abrams will hang up - a space version, with a rocket engine? Russia is the only country in the world that creates a fundamentally new weapon, while the Yankees are doing nothing more than a show, but a rotten Klaunade!

        Surely, to frighten the whole world with a "fundamentally new weapon" is a much more worthy occupation?
        "Our newest systems are necessary for our country to achieve negotiations with other states". (V.V. Putin)

        "Other states" that refuse to talk to the Russian Federation? Do you have to get their attention this way? Apparently, really, a bad thing ... recourse
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 11 March 2018 14: 30
          +12
          Alexander, I personally don't care if they want to talk or not. They do not want - yes, it is not necessary. Pro achievements - after the GDP message, the US Senate Committee held hearings, the topic was the topics in the Message. By Mask - IMHO of course, but it smacks of cheating. The network has a lot of materials and for the "availability" of electric vehicles and infrastructure for them. And for rastiarenny Solarsiti - the cost of not him and that output. For a space contract - the state intentionally left this area, minus the competitor, specialists began to work for it, plus unlimited crediting. Where does the genius smell here? How was the counteraction of NASA (read Max) and Roscosmos, and it remained. Here we were accused of bluffing videos, so Mask had a bunch of them, which is a hyperlump. This is not even a bluff, but afferizm. Compare the Mask with Bezos and Kaspersky. Here are the second two yes - a kind of genius, and the first conman, who enjoys the support of the state.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 11 March 2018 14: 53
            +3
            Quote: Okolotochny
            Alexander, I personally don't care if they want to talk or not. They do not want - yes, it is not necessary. Pro achievements - after the GDP message, the US Senate Committee held hearings, the topic was the topics in the Message. By Mask - IMHO of course, but it smacks of cheating. The network has a lot of materials and for the "availability" of electric vehicles and infrastructure for them. And for rastiarenny Solarsiti - the cost of not him and that output. For a space contract - the state intentionally left this area, minus the competitor, specialists began to work for it, plus unlimited crediting. Where does the genius smell here? How was the counteraction of NASA (read Max) and Roscosmos, and it remained. Here we were accused of bluffing videos, so Mask had a bunch of them, which is a hyperlump. This is not even a bluff, but afferizm. Compare the Mask with Bezos and Kaspersky. Here are the second two yes - a kind of genius, and the first conman, who enjoys the support of the state.

            I cannot agree with you, but I will not argue either, because very soon we will see with our own eyes how the completely fantastic projects of Mask will come to life. (For example, I am waiting for the "World Wide Web"). I'm not talking about his projects already embodied (more successful, or less successful), which go and fly. In the end, he walks on his, and returns the loans on time. In any case, his projects work more on civilians than on military ones, and this is good! hi
            1. poquello
              poquello 11 March 2018 15: 12
              +4
              Quote: A. Privalov
              I'm waiting for "World Wide Web"

              ))) I have a good internet
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 11 March 2018 15: 48
                +3
                Quote: poquello
                Quote: A. Privalov
                I'm waiting for "World Wide Web"

                ))) I have a good internet

                You have a good, and I'm waiting for the world. drinks hi
            2. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 11 March 2018 16: 41
              +2
              Alexander, yes, there are problems with a hypersonic missile, and Max promises such transport on Earth. No, I agree that l5t through ...... maybe something will work out. But there is a video of what is not and cannot be now.
              For projects that ride and fly - Tesla on Chinese batteries. The price is from the plane, but I don’t want to talk about the service. Compare the development of electric vehicles with China. Musk smokes quietly on the sidelines. Falcon? So it's not him, from NASA got it. What else?
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 11 March 2018 17: 14
                +3
                Quote: Okolotochny
                ... I agree that l5t through ...... something can happen and succeed. But there is a clip of what is not and cannot be now.

                You can not compare with China. Where are the Russian batteries? Where are electric cars from the Russian Federation? We recently and Vladimir Vladimirovich showed videos that not everyone believed. Someone sees a mask of genius, and someone a charlatan. I like his launches and landings on the platform.
                Mask showed the concept of an unmanned electric bus for its underground tunnels. He has a point - high-speed tunnels between cities. He announced plans to build a tunnel system from New York to Washington at the end of 2016. In July, 2017, Musk received government approval for the construction of a test site in Los Angeles.
                The development of the new urban public transport company is Mask The Boring Company. It is assumed that the electric bus will move in underground tunnels at a speed of 240 kilometers per hour. The car will automatically switch between tunnels and thousands of small elevators that lift the electric buses to the passenger loading stations - sites the size of a standard parking space. Fantasy? For now, yes. But I, too, terribly tired of traffic jams. belay
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 17
                  +2
                  And where are the Russian batteries? Do not be like some of your compatriots to answer an opponent like himself. You see, basically PROMO ROLLERS. Putin showed what hundreds of enterprises have worked and are working on. The mask showed just his fantasies. The work of several web designers. And for China - he does (and successfully) without pomp what Musk ONLY talks about with pomp. You yourself answered - he has nothing but fantasies (world wide Internet, electric buses, etc.).
                2. Korax71
                  Korax71 11 March 2018 23: 30
                  +4
                  Hello, Alexander. About pure Chinese batteries provocation. Mask works with Panasonic. Now in the states they are opening a joint venture, more precisely by 20, it will reach full capacity, well, it may delay a little. But it is important that for all Tesla products it supplies batteries Only Panasonic and only from its enterprises in Japan. With Chinese enterprises, Panasonic Mask is not supplied anything from the word sovme.p Anasonik and Tesla exclusive partners, and the first invested in the brainchild the mask "giga factor" about 2 billion pl. the factory is around 200, with 6500 staff, and according to the mask, this office alone will have as many batteries as the whole world in 2013. we just all learn its activities on the forums of Comrade Karmanov, who frankly breshet. study from official sources recourse
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 12 March 2018 09: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: Korax71
                    Hello, Alexander. About pure Chinese batteries provocation. Mask works with Panasonic. Now in the states they are opening a joint venture, more precisely by 20, it will reach full capacity, well, it may delay a little. But it is important that for all Tesla products it supplies batteries Only Panasonic and only from its enterprises in Japan. With Chinese enterprises, Panasonic Mask is not supplied anything from the word sovme.p Anasonik and Tesla exclusive partners, and the first invested in the brainchild the mask "giga factor" about 2 billion pl. the factory is around 200, with 6500 staff, and according to the mask, this office alone will have as many batteries as the whole world in 2013. we just all learn its activities on the forums of Comrade Karmanov, who frankly breshet. study from official sources recourse

                    I am not very closely following the supply of components for Mask, but this is an amusing fact. Thanks for the information. drinks
                    1. Korax71
                      Korax71 12 March 2018 11: 27
                      +1
                      hi always please. not all the time I torment you with questions on the part of the Israeli military companies repeat if it is interesting, then I can throw off the information, there is a blog of a person who is directly connected with the production in Nevada and personally with Mask I know. He has more detailed sources.
                      1. A. Privalov
                        A. Privalov 12 March 2018 13: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Korax71
                        hi always please. not all the time I torment you with questions on the part of the Israeli military companies repeat if it is interesting, then I can throw off the information, there is a blog of a person who is directly connected with the production in Nevada and personally with Mask I know. He has more detailed sources.

                        I would greatly appreciate the link. hi
                  2. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 12 March 2018 12: 48
                    +2
                    Now they are opening a joint venture in the states, more precisely, by the year 20, it will reach full capacity

                    When were the plans supposed to be the opening of the plant and production? What is the total capacity of the plant? How many products are currently manufactured?
                    According to the plans, the plant was supposed to produce already in 2017. That is, "right shifts"? And why are there no screams of atu, as due to shifts in Russia? Are the technologies new? Well, you yourself said - from Panasonic. Are Li-ion batteries? No one else releases?
            3. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 11 March 2018 17: 18
              +1
              Yes, and for loans. It would be nice buh.otchetnost his firms look. I saw something completely different on the net. SolarSiti for 2016 year worked with a huge loss. There is such a thing as refinancing.
              1. A. Privalov
                A. Privalov 11 March 2018 17: 22
                +5
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Yes, and for loans. It would be nice buh.otchetnost his firms look. I saw something completely different on the net. SolarSiti for 2016 year worked with a huge loss. There is such a thing as refinancing.

                Are you an auditor? With billionaires, banks have their own business. It is you and me that the debtors will eat up with shoelaces, and he will get out. I'm not worried about him. yes
                1. the lord
                  the lord 11 March 2018 21: 31
                  +2
                  And here in more detail, how is it to get out of loans there?
                  I watched a film about one composer for a long time (I won’t remember his name, that’s not the point of my comment). In his times, the major ruled on his path. I got to the point that elephants were released on stage during their operas. And this one just got the better of him with his music, he turned out to be more elegant and talented. So with your mask and with all the Yankees, 90% get puffed up, and 100% are done by others.
                  And it seems like Jews are honored for smart ones, but such strange claims to us that we have no trillions of dollars in budgets, as if they do not know that, unlike Amer, we are at arm's length from our enemies, but they are beyond the oceans. They still have less problems. And nevertheless, we have something that they do not have and will not appear for a long time. And it turns out better with us, they have a chep (in the same Syria, for example) But these are real things that bring peace. And the mask ... smart-ass is always the end. Do you know)))))
                  PS is a solid uncle to the avatar, and it’s like to bend about “intimidation of the world with new weapons” - the kindergarten, after school, school. Are we threatened? ...
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 12 March 2018 09: 38
                    0
                    Quote: znavel

                    And it seems like Jews are honored for smart ones, but such strange claims to us that we have no trillions of dollars in budgets, as if they do not know that, unlike Amer, we are at arm's length from our enemies, but they are beyond the oceans. They still have less problems. And nevertheless, we have something that they do not have and will not appear for a long time. And it turns out better with us, they have a chep (in the same Syria, for example) But these are real things that bring peace. And the mask ... smart-ass is always the end. Do you know)))))
                    PS is a solid uncle to the avatar, and it’s like to bend about “intimidation of the world with new weapons” - the kindergarten, after school, school. Are we threatened? ...

                    I, as an Israeli, well understand how hard it is to live "from your enemies at arm's length." Of course, hypersonic rockets with nuclear engines, underwater speed baubles and other devices that were shown to us in cartoons are against them. It’s not for nothing that an elderly military commander near Chelyabinsk leads people to dig trenches and build anti-tank barriers. My condolences. Keep it up! drinks good
                    1. the lord
                      the lord 14 March 2018 22: 55
                      +1
                      AAA, another Jewish degradant for the fun of the Iranians))))))
                      "Cartoons"? And you, of course, do not know about the test of the same underwater bauble in the Barents Sea the other day, yes .... How do you know, though ... it’s your Ibonatov ghouls nearby who watched it, right? And the launch of another hypersonic "bauble" Oh, yes, there the "Blochers" noticed that in the beginning they showed board No. 93, and at the end No. 91, yes ... Boys just didn’t notice that two people were flying up in the air sides ... so, detail ...))))
                      And yes, of course it is against those who are at arm's length - and against those who finance their show off)))). Do not finance, it will not be scary. In general, it’s funny as an elementary warning about the inadmissibility of rudeness in relation to us, poor people, such convulsions and defecation cause. So let's go the right way! Accept my condolences on your, in the near future, prematurely deceased relatives from the IDF Now it will not fly like that))))
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 12
                  +3
                  Yes, in my current activities I am engaged, including in matters of auditing the financial and business activities of an enterprise. The balance sheet can say a lot about the success of the enterprise. And I did not expect such a turn from you. I understood, you have no arguments against it. Good luck.
                  1. A. Privalov
                    A. Privalov 11 March 2018 23: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Yes, in my current activities I am engaged, including in matters of auditing the financial and business activities of an enterprise. The balance sheet can say a lot about the success of the enterprise. And I did not expect such a turn from you. I understood, you have no arguments against it. Good luck.

                    I quote myself: "I can not agree with you, but I will not argue, because very soon we will see with our own eyes how the absolutely fantastic projects of Mask will come to life." Then we will communicate. And to you, all the best. hi
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 18
                      +3
                      Quote: A. Privalov
                      in the very near future we will see for ourselves how completely fantastic Mask projects will come true. "Then we'll talk.

                      In short - never talk
            4. Setrac
              Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 12
              +1
              Quote: A. Privalov
              For example, I'm waiting for the "World Wide Web"

              He will not be.
        2. starogil
          starogil 11 March 2018 17: 52
          +5
          Whose cow would moo .... Get out of the occupied territories, demolish the buildings you built
          walls, give the opportunity for millions of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes, to their
          land, destroy nuclear weapons, disarm, and most importantly, stop on the sly,
          bringing up some neighbors on others to kindle discord and conflict between them ....
        3. Lex.
          Lex. 11 March 2018 18: 53
          +1
          Surely, to frighten the whole world with a "fundamentally new weapon" is a much more worthy occupation?
          Really, did Trump of Korea threaten with nuclear weapons what Russia cannot do?
          It’s just that we warned you to scold you and our politicians are constantly attacking Iran. Do you think this is normal?
        4. amr
          amr 11 March 2018 23: 32
          +2
          Quote: A. Privalov
          "Other states" that refuse to talk to the Russian Federation? Do you have to get their attention this way? Apparently, really, a bad thing ... recourse

          Well, you’re talking the same way in Palestine?
          .... just let’s not begin whose Palestine and what moral right does the God-chosen people have in “their native land,” but the methods are the same ...
          .... moreover, Israel is distinguished by a clear, forceful method of struggle.
          And then there is such criticism!
        5. Setrac
          Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 07
          +2
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Surely, to frighten the whole world with a "fundamentally new weapon" is a much more worthy occupation?

          Quote: A. Privalov
          "Other states" that refuse to talk to the Russian Federation? Do you have to get their attention this way? Apparently, really, a bad thing ...

          The point is really bad. These are the military bases of NATO and the USA near our borders and not vice versa. We have to pacify the inadequate by force.
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 12 March 2018 09: 00
            +1
            From the 12th to the 14th, the NATO military budget was reduced. The Baltic countries themselves joined NATO and asked for the deployment of the contingent. To remind you what happened in the 14th year. If you look a little deeper and more closely, then the entire NATO expansion is an external product state policy.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 12 March 2018 13: 23
              +1
              Quote: Korax71
              if you look a little deeper and more closely, then the entire expansion of NATO is a product of the state’s foreign policy.

              And this state is the USA
      3. poquello
        poquello 11 March 2018 14: 01
        +4
        Quote: Herkulesich
        Minivan or something this time? And to the super-heavy rocket right away, Abrams will hang up - a space version, with a rocket engine? Russia is the only country in the world that creates a fundamentally new weapon, while the Yankees are doing nothing more than a show, but a rotten Klaunade!

        for sure, cinematographic film-makers inflating from an elephant’s flies, Russia opens up the present future by creating a working nuclear installation for flights, starships and light flights to other planets - it’s already nearby
      4. siberalt
        siberalt 11 March 2018 14: 09
        +1
        If the Mask rockets are so cool, then why does he launch foreign satellites into space? lol
      5. viktor_ui
        viktor_ui 11 March 2018 14: 52
        +5
        Herculesych ... THE FROBLE SHOWER from the successes of others - valerian popey wassat
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 11 March 2018 12: 25
      +17
      So what? And in French Guiana launched the "Union" with 4 communication satellites. Quietly, without a pump ...
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 11 March 2018 12: 27
      +7
      Quote: voyaka uh
      in early March, Space-Ikh launched the 50th anniversary Falcon-9

      You can consider me biased (and it is). But I would be much happier if this "anniversary" crashed into the White House. okr. Colombia
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 March 2018 12: 35
        +25
        This is a well-known factor: “when the peasant’s greatest joy is
        when will he have a good crop? No. When the cow dies at the neighbor " smile
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 11 March 2018 12: 40
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          known factor: “when the peasant’s greatest joy is

          It is what it is. laughing
        2. vlad66
          vlad66 11 March 2018 12: 45
          +9
          Quote: voyaka uh
          when will he have a good crop? No. When the cow dies at the neighbor "

          Actually, the drum on Ilona Mask and his falcons is neither cold nor hot, for example, I would have been glad if Israel had launched such a damn thing, by God I would be glad to see Alexey Batkovich for you, and rubbed pooh on the striped ones. hi
          1. Boribasar
            Boribasar 11 March 2018 17: 55
            +2
            Quote: vlad66
            but on the stripes I’ll puff it and grind it.
            Of course, pah and grind, but it’s only recourse you are now directly using the Internet shit invented in the USA, but if you hadn’t striped, you would have nowhere to say publicly about "pah and grind" wink ...
            1. vlad66
              vlad66 11 March 2018 18: 59
              +8
              Quote: Boribasar
              You would have nowhere to say publicly about "fie and grind" wink ...

              Yes, there will be no Internet I will die or something, or a cataclysm will happen, for 47 years I have not died, however, so fie on the striped and rubbed ..
              1. Boribasar
                Boribasar 11 March 2018 19: 20
                +3
                Quote: vlad66
                Yes, there will be no Internet I will die or something, or a cataclysm will happen, for 47 years I have not died, however, so fie on the striped and rubbed ..
                "Finally, I hear the speech not of the boy, but of the husband" (c)
                A man said a man did drinks
                Come on Vlad, cut off the godless American Internet angry good
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                    2. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Boribasar
                      Quote: vlad66
                      And if I chop off an Amerz, I’ll kiss in the back seat, huh?

                      А laughing , "Pidogas" hi And how are you 47 years old in Russia? wassat You need to Geyropu ..
                      Write "Notes of the Old Pidogas" wink There will be a bestseller ..

                      It’s strange. This phenomenon is flourishing in your country, even the Oscars are handed over for their “hard mining work”, but are you blaming us? Are you one of them? Do not cry, they say that in the West this is already art, so CREATE love lol
            2. the lord
              the lord 11 March 2018 21: 38
              +2
              The Internet was invented in the USSR - the OGAS system, you are illiterate. Not implemented just for the reason. that 20 lard in gold only for the control system in the national economy (the initial purpose of the OGAS) for the post-war USSR in the Cold War regime (not started by us) was unbearable. So the Internet in Amer’s by birth and on servers is not theirs for a long time.
        3. ASG7
          ASG7 11 March 2018 12: 49
          +4
          We would be glad to have a good harvest from a neighbor, but it’s a bad luck - instead of wheat, he weeds have grown, but there’s not much fun in this, you must agree.
        4. askort154
          askort154 11 March 2018 12: 55
          +8
          voyaka uh ...This is a well-known factor: "when the peasant's greatest joy is
          when will he have a good crop? No. When the cow dies at the neighbor "

          This, of course, does not apply to you. Your neighbors have no cows, only camels. wink hi
        5. lis-ik
          lis-ik 11 March 2018 13: 32
          +6
          Quote: voyaka uh
          This is a well-known factor: “when the peasant’s greatest joy is
          when will he have a good crop? No. When the cow dies at the neighbor " smile

          Alexei, is Musk a Jew too, if we’re tearing him up for him like that, or can’t you be happy for the former country?
          1. cats
            cats 11 March 2018 18: 52
            +5
            Quote: lis-ik
            Alexei, is Musk a Jew too, if we’re tearing him up for him like that, or can’t you be happy for the former country?

            It’s just that the latest news is that Jews are keeping quiet. lol
            And here at least some reason for a portion of the poison towards Russia.
            Look at the pluses to his comments. wink
        6. sir_obs
          sir_obs 11 March 2018 13: 41
          +5
          No. When the cow dies at the neighbor "


          Do not confuse us with Ukrainians.
        7. viktor_ui
          viktor_ui 11 March 2018 14: 55
          +2
          voyaka uh - they cannot be remade in terms of envy and malice. Bolt on them and their "opinion."
        8. starogil
          starogil 11 March 2018 17: 54
          +2
          Around you, from your "love" to your neighbors soon some ruins will remain.
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        10. Setrac
          Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 23
          +4
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "when the peasant’s greatest joy is
          when will he have a good crop? No. When the cow dies at the neighbor "

          It’s just the opposite, you applaud while standing that the mask launched a dead cow (car) into space and wonder why others do not share your enthusiasm for such an idiotic occasion!
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 11 March 2018 12: 49
        +4
        Quote: Chertt
        if this "anniversary" collapsed on the white house. okr. Colombia
        They don’t let you sleep at night? Caught under the door?
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 11 March 2018 12: 53
          +2
          Quote: Greenwood
          They don’t let you sleep at night? Caught under the door?

          You are healthy ? How is this even possible?
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 11 March 2018 16: 39
            +1
            I yes. Therefore, I do not fantasize about the White Houses, Washington and the DCs, and I do not write such nonsense in the comments. And you?
    4. Muvka
      Muvka 11 March 2018 12: 29
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Without any fanfare, in early March, Space-IH launched the anniversary 50 Falcon-9.
      A satellite weighing in 6 t the size of a bus was successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit.

      And what is supernatural about this? Proton is also capable of this. Remind me how old Proton is?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 March 2018 12: 38
        +1
        And I don’t argue. Proton has about a hundred successful launches
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 11 March 2018 12: 46
          +11
          If we had a cosmodrome at the same latitudes, Proton would be able to take 9m to such a height. But alas, all of our spaceports are much north.
      2. iwind
        iwind 11 March 2018 13: 23
        +5
        Quote: Muvka
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Without any fanfare, in early March, Space-IH launched the anniversary 50 Falcon-9.
        A satellite weighing in 6 t the size of a bus was successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit.

        And what is supernatural about this? Proton is also capable of this. Remind me how old Proton is?

        exactly. How old is he? He can no longer compete.
        this year 2 launches, well, if you are an optimistic up to 3

        Quote: Muvka
        Those. the rocket is 10 times cheaper, but they don’t want to use it. As for me, this is strange. Read the news in full.


        iwind
        A compromise will be possible. Supply on FH the rest on SLS is about the moon.

        Month passed
        "Nasa rewrote the launch of the first module of the lunar base for 2021. private rockets will be used, equipped will use private rockets in the same way as they are now used to supply the ISS"
        a couple of days
        "US resident Donald Trump held a meeting in his office, the central element of which was the issue of the cost of launching a payload into space." I noticed that the cost of launching SpaceX rockets is about $ 80 million. In the case of a rocket that the state creates, the price tag in 40-50 times more. When I heard the figure of $ 80 million, I immediately remembered that I received completely different numbers from NASA, "Trump said during a conversation with White House representatives and reporters. The money spent on developing SLS and building ground systems would be enough for 86 launches of the Falcon Heavy booster rocket. A rhetorical question arises - why use an ultra-expensive (about 3 billion dollars per launch) state-run disposable rocket if there is a budget (80-90 million) reusable private option? "

        But that’s all for the Russian Federation, it’s not important that’s where the questions need to be touched ...
        "Dmitry Rogozin instructed speed up the pace of deployment of serial production of Angara not since 2022, and since 2021. Up to this point The Khrunichev Center will create two missiles: a light Angara-1.2 (it should be manufactured by May 2019) and a heavy one (by 2021). "

        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3565630"
        This is how many years between starts recourse
        1. poquello
          poquello 11 March 2018 14: 20
          +4
          Quote: iwind
          exactly. How old is he? He can no longer compete.

          oversleep, what kind of competition, when the bourgeoisie can - they fly on their own, chatter about competition is 90% chatter
      3. Paul 1
        Paul 1 11 March 2018 16: 38
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Without any fanfare, in early March, Space-IH launched the anniversary 50 Falcon-9.
        A satellite weighing in 6 t the size of a bus was successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit.

        And what is supernatural about this? Proton is also capable of this. Remind me how old Proton is?

        By the way, most likely not capable. There are 6 tons in geostationary orbit. The proton at the geostationary is only 3.7 tons. With a new hydrogen booster unit they promise 4 tons will be. But it's still one and a half times less
    5. penal battalion
      penal battalion 11 March 2018 12: 32
      +15
      Lord! A strange position for you Jews is: I believe I do not believe.
      About 3-4 months ago you laughed at Status6 and the Dagger ........ did not believe.
      And the Americans showed you a good movie, they blew your ears and you believed ....... repeat
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 March 2018 12: 45
        +5
        "And the Americans showed you a good movie" ///

        In the sense? Has Falcon Heavy not taken off? belay
        1. penal battalion
          penal battalion 11 March 2018 12: 56
          +7
          Taki, and Apollo-11 is not a fact!
          “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” - “Only work, without entertainment, dulls Jack”,
          Creed Ilona Mask
        2. penal battalion
          penal battalion 11 March 2018 13: 00
          +14
          I’ll ask just a couple of questions .... if you can find the answer to them, I think everything will become clear for you ...
          1. How did the Americans overcome the Van Allen belt and did not die from radiation (14 times according to the Americans)?
          2. If they really flew then, back in 1969, what prevents them from flying now?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 11 March 2018 13: 05
            +7
            Why die? Soon, the Chinese, the Americans, and the Russians
            fly to the moon again. The second stage of development ... more commercial,
            not a political race.
            And the Russian flag is stuck there, and the Chinese. Enough space for everyone.
            1. Genry
              Genry 11 March 2018 14: 18
              +7
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Soon, the Chinese, the Americans, and the Russians
              fly to the moon again.

              Are you sure about the word "again"?
              And where did the Americans do hundreds of kilograms of lunar soil brought. No one was given. There is no fact of confirmation of this soil, there is only a statement that it disappeared somewhere.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 31
                +2
                Quote: Genry
                And where did the Americans do hundreds of kilograms of lunar soil brought.

                But they didn’t tell you honestly-honestly - the cleaners threw out, quite by accident!
            2. sabakina
              sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 19
              +7
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Why die? Soon, the Chinese, the Americans, and the Russians
              fly to the moon again. The second stage of development ... more commercial,
              And the Russian flag is stuck there, and the Chinese. Enough space for everyone.

              Alexei, why did you get the idea that I would release them outside the low Earth orbit?
          2. slipped
            slipped 11 March 2018 16: 07
            0
            Quote: Penalty
            I’ll ask just a couple of questions .... if you can find the answer to them, I think everything will become clear for you ...
            1. How did the Americans overcome the Van Allen belt and did not die from radiation (14 times according to the Americans)?
            2. If they really flew then, back in 1969, what prevents them from flying now?

            1. Started through the South Pole.
            2. Very expensive.
        3. mvg
          mvg 11 March 2018 13: 00
          +1
          I’m embarrassed to ask, where is your friend Vatnik?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 11 March 2018 13: 11
            +6
            I myself am surprised ... Whether the Iranians ran out of budget for
            "a positive image of Iranian-Russian relations,"
            is he tired of it? He was a good man, he talked a lot
            about Israel.
        4. poquello
          poquello 11 March 2018 14: 22
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          In the sense? Has Falcon Heavy not taken off?

          )))) took off - flew somewhere
      2. brigadir
        brigadir 11 March 2018 13: 16
        +5
        For clarity. For those who, besides the Solovyov and Popov shows, have no wife and no other sources of information: Putin is not trusted. Worldwide. And in Israel. And no one is shocked and does not bother. And no one is afraid. Here is such a pichalka.
        Only Kedmi, a rubber contraceptive, on Solovyov’s show says that he was asked. No offense. Purely true. The elections are coming soon.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 13: 35
          +13
          Quote: brigadir
          For those, who except for the show of Solovyov and Popov with his wife has no other sources of information: They don’t believe Putin. Worldwide. And in Israel. And no one is shocked and does not bother. And no one is afraid

          Please name yours sources of information.
          They are undoubtedly worthy of attention.
          Especially interesting about
          Quote: brigadir
          Worldwide

          Exactly
          Quote: brigadir
          To clarify

          Thank you yes
          1. brigadir
            brigadir 11 March 2018 13: 54
            +2
            Please indicate your sources of information.

            Hebrew-speaking and English-language news resources. Both print (Internet) and media - news television channels. You just need to own languages ​​at a sufficient level.

            I myself wonder how the president of a great power can bluff, to put it mildly, telling about already flying nuclear-powered rockets or silent torpedoes already armed with speed of a fast train. Of course, and there is a bunch of videos on YouTube with names and markings and years, all the military developments described by Putin began back in the days of the Soviet Union. But if they weren’t brought to mind then or refused, then now .... Given that for example such an important and relatively simple development as KAZ Arena was never implemented.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 13: 57
              +10
              Quote: brigadir
              Hebrew speaking

              Keep it to yourself.
              Quote: brigadir
              English-language news resources

              To the studio.
              Quote: brigadir
              You just need to be fluent in languages

              Let's figure it out ... using scrap and mother (s)
              So: a couple of three links to English-speaking, worthy (in your opinion) trust, with the information that you set out above.
              I clarify: it’s with this one:
              Quote: brigadir
              Putin is not believed. Worldwide

              Thank you yes
              1. brigadir
                brigadir 11 March 2018 14: 04
                +2
                wink
                Do you like being scared of you? Or are you proud of the scientific potential of your country?

                If you know English, you can easily find related articles yourself. If you do not know - why do you need it.

                By the way, the Hebrew language analysis should not be immediately discounted. There are enough military analysts in Israel who are relatively unbiased and objective.
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 25
                  +6
                  Quote: brigadir
                  wink
                  Do you like being scared of you?
                  We do not like to think that we are afraid!
                2. sabakina
                  sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: brigadir
                  By the way, the Hebrew language analysis should not be immediately discounted. There are enough military analysts in Israel who are relatively unbiased and objective.
                  Judging by the text, you are the first of them.
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 11 March 2018 15: 00
                    +6
                    14:58 as it is surprisingly friendly, our native Jews left the site. Did they sit in one room?
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 11 March 2018 15: 29
                      +3
                      Quote: sabakina
                      14:58 as it is surprisingly friendly, our native Jews left the site. Did they sit in one room?

                      Well, they have a scheduled lunch. Eat, digest and fight laughing
                    2. askort154
                      askort154 11 March 2018 15: 43
                      +3
                      sabakina ....14:58 as it is surprisingly friendly, our native Jews left the site. Did they sit in one room?

                      Change These went to write reports. The next shift from the briefing has not yet arrived. hi
                3. Genry
                  Genry 11 March 2018 14: 35
                  +5
                  Quote: brigadir
                  If you know English, you can easily find related articles yourself. If you do not know - why do you need it.

                  How old are you that merged so fluidly?
                  Quote: brigadir
                  By the way, the Hebrew language analysis should not be immediately discounted. There are enough military analysts in Israel who are relatively unbiased and objective.

                  The ItonTV channel was popular for some time (thanks to exclusives with Kedmi), where there were “experts” with saliva proving how good they now have the F-35 fighter, and the Russians will not succeed. That the Kerch bridge is a PR campaign and it will never be built.
                  Yasha is now on Russian television and ItonTV with jokes is no longer interesting.
                4. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 11 March 2018 14: 36
                  +4
                  Well, yes, if Putin had not been believed, then your BB would not have flown to Sochi as a job. Stop poking around in the garbage, and turn on your head and analyze the facts.
                5. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 14: 50
                  +9
                  Quote: brigadir
                  If you know English, you can easily find related articles yourself. If you do not know - why do you need it

                  I know English well.
                  And you do not read well in Russian:
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  a couple of three links to English, worthy (in your opinion) trust

                  Main thought highlighted in red.
                  We need exactly those articles that you refer to, saying:
                  Quote: brigadir
                  Putin is not believed. Worldwide

                  And not those that "I can find."
                  So clearer? wink
                  Quote: brigadir
                  Hebrew language analysis should not be immediately discounted

                  I do not dump it. I just don't know Hebrew. Somehow it happened in life request
                  Well, so there will be links, or how?
            2. Muvka
              Muvka 11 March 2018 13: 57
              +4
              Well, do not be unfounded, give us links. After all, is it not difficult? On a dozen publications. For the whole world is a trifle
            3. poquello
              poquello 11 March 2018 14: 29
              +4
              and still there is a society of supporters of flat land
        2. starogil
          starogil 11 March 2018 17: 58
          +2
          Why then, Netonyah, how does the shuttle go back and forth and breaks the phones?
    6. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 11 March 2018 12: 36
      +9
      If without any pump, then the US government does all this, and Musk is just a buffoon to divert attention.
      Space X suffers tremendous losses from decade to decade, but miracles still remain afloat.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 March 2018 12: 58
        +6
        Space X was in a small “plus” in 2017. According to analysts
        profitability of about 3%. Without any American government.
        If this year they make about 20 successful launches as planned,
        then earning somewhere around 1,5 billion dollars will yield 5-7% profitability.
        Profit from Space X Mask is pumped to Tesla, which is unprofitable.
        1. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 11 March 2018 13: 22
          +6
          Yeah, without the American government at all) Musk is such a brilliant all by himself, all by himself)
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 11 March 2018 13: 42
            +5
            Elon Musk is a pretty wealthy man. In his personal wallet about
            21 billion dollars. And he is able to choose the best engineers for his firms
            in different areas and pay them high salaries for good work on time.
            He himself does not need to be a brilliant rocket launcher or a brilliant auto designer.
            1. Black_Vatnik
              Black_Vatnik 11 March 2018 14: 06
              +3
              And did the engineers develop patents for all of their little things-dryuchki? Patents cost a lot of money. Space patents cost huge money. And those patents that are of strategic importance do not just fall into the wrong hands for nothing. In such things, the political factor always plays an important role.
              Honestly, I'm not a connoisseur in space. But knowledgeable people scattered about me on the shelves that what Musk is doing is unprofitable from the point of view of commerce, but very profitable from the point of view of defense interests.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 18
                0
                And patents are an empty place, without well-functioning production of products.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 14: 20
                  +7
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  patents - an empty place, without a smooth production

                  Great-aavilno ...
                  Only the production of something serious without a patent is called counterfeiting and other bad words.
                  PS: does not apply to garage service and sliding bearings, do not worry laughing
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 47
                    0
                    I have a lot of garage services for bearings, and everything else has rights, permissions and patents - official.
            2. Sirocco
              Sirocco 11 March 2018 14: 27
              +5
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Elon Musk is a pretty wealthy man. In his personal wallet about
              21 billion dollars.

              At the expense of Ilon Mask, I have doubts about his stunning success in the field of astronautics, how the devil jumped out of the snuff-box, with such successful projects, all as if from his notes, well, there’s no such thing in principle where institutes, specialists, launching sites they built and created?
              Now about the main thing.
              In the late 60s, if you remember, the USSR lost the K-129 nuclear submarines, just like what was a separate issue. So the CIA, under the guise of billionaire Howard Hughes, opened the Azorian project, which distracted the attention of the masses from the CIA, it was he who, on a disinterested basis, organized a search and rise, a submarine. (Under the slogan of the extraction of mineral resources from the bottom of the ocean)))) For his hard-earned money just like that))) built such a vessel as the Hughes Glomar Explorer, with such special equipment for lifting submarines from a depth of 5 thousand meters. He turned a project like Musk today.
              This is not fiction, and not fake information in the public domain, I suppose that the CIA ears stick out behind this MASK project, but what is the purpose?
              1. Black_Vatnik
                Black_Vatnik 11 March 2018 14: 35
                +3
                I suppose that the CIA’s ears stick behind this MASK project, but what’s the purpose?


                The goal is the militarization of space.
                1. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 11 March 2018 14: 39
                  +1
                  Quote: Black_Jacket
                  The goal is the militarization of space.

                  This is an option. who will have any other suggestions?
                  1. Black_Vatnik
                    Black_Vatnik 11 March 2018 14: 42
                    +1
                    What other suggestions could there be? Or do you believe in the idea of ​​the colonization of Mars?)
                    1. Sirocco
                      Sirocco 11 March 2018 14: 52
                      +2
                      Quote: Black_Jacket
                      Or do you believe in the idea of ​​the colonization of Mars?)

                      Oh, stop saying, as they say in Odessa))) I’d have to figure it out with the Moon)))) I can smell it somewhere, they want to drag it somewhere, but I don’t understand where and for what purpose, because on the poster they have reusability, and return the steps.
                      This does not suit us, and ours has a different view on this topic.

                      According to the publication, the Russian engineers were not inspired by the experience of Ilon Mask, the founder of SpaceX, who puts the first stages of the Falcon 9 rocket on a barge in the Atlantic Ocean. Khrunichev is designing the winged first step, which will be able to return to the cosmodrome like an airplane and land on the runway.

                      “I am convinced that for Russian conditions, the returning first stage with outgoing wings is the best option,” said A. Medvedev. “The scheme by which the first stage of SpaceX lands is not suitable for us, since missiles do not fly from our cosmodromes above the sea and we have "there’s no way to bring a barge to the right place. Even if there was such an opportunity, it’s not the fact that this is the optimal way: lateral wind and rocking almost always interfere with the sea.
                      1. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 11 March 2018 17: 38
                        0
                        The guys said that Baikal is a complex and expensive system for launches - and therefore work on it was closed - in the future, BMK Molot.
                    2. Setrac
                      Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 41
                      +1
                      Quote: Black_Jacket
                      What other suggestions could there be? Or do you believe in the idea of ​​the colonization of Mars?)

                      We believe in the idea of ​​space exploration, but not Mask, rather we believe in spacecraft with nuclear power plants.
                  2. flicker
                    flicker 11 March 2018 15: 26
                    +1
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    Quote: Black_Jacket
                    The goal is the militarization of space.

                    This is an option. who will have any other suggestions?

                    Intrigued right. Are you going to breed someone for the extraction of lunar minerals?
                    1. Sirocco
                      Sirocco 11 March 2018 17: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: flicker
                      Intrigued right. Are you going to breed someone for the extraction of lunar minerals?

                      And there was no thought)))) The moon is that there are still a lot of questions on the fact of where they were))))) Then they divorced the Moon race, now they are making noise with Mask and Co., although I'm 100% sure Musk and the CIA are one gang of watering can.
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      To all conspirators - Moon and Kubrick

                      I was not there, judging by your awareness, you are a patron of those resources))))
              2. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 11 March 2018 15: 49
                +3
                All conspirators - the Moon and Kubrick, the CIA and Musk, the Rothschild and reptilians, etc. - I recommend many wonderful alternative sites.
                There your versions will be accepted with a bang.
                And come up with even cooler options in three minutes fellow .
                Here boring technique understands.
            3. sabakina
              sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 31
              +3
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Elon Musk is a pretty wealthy man. In his personal wallet, about $ 21 billion. And he is able to choose the best engineers for his firms in various fields and pay them high salaries for good work on time. He himself does not need to be a brilliant rocket launcher or a brilliant auto designer.
              Mdyayaya ... If Korolev had such grandmothers, we would fly outside the Solar System right now!
              1. adrianjensen
                adrianjensen 11 March 2018 16: 09
                +2
                Quote: sabakina
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Elon Musk is a pretty wealthy man. In his personal wallet, about $ 21 billion. And he is able to choose the best engineers for his firms in various fields and pay them high salaries for good work on time. He himself does not need to be a brilliant rocket launcher or a brilliant auto designer.
                Mdyayaya ... If Korolev had such grandmothers, we would fly outside the Solar System right now!

                The queen would have been dissipated with such grandmothers)) By the way, he is a Ukrainian from Zhytomyr.
                1. the lord
                  the lord 11 March 2018 21: 45
                  0
                  He is Russian from Zhytomyr, there is not a mono-ethnic city right now)))))
                  1. adrianjensen
                    adrianjensen 11 March 2018 22: 05
                    +1

                    Nope, nevertheless he is an independent
                    1. the lord
                      the lord 14 March 2018 22: 57
                      +1
                      And you, miserable, carefully looked at the date of birth? He was born in 1906, what the fuck is he .. Ukrainian. There were no mention of them then. Again, from the sites of pots you collect fake documents?))))))
                2. Setrac
                  Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: adrianjensen
                  By the way, he is a Ukrainian from Zhytomyr.

                  Korolev hails from the Russian Empire, at that time Ukraine STILL did not exist physically.
              2. Setrac
                Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 45
                0
                Quote: sabakina
                Mdyayaya ... If Korolev had such grandmothers, we would fly outside the Solar System right now!

                If the Russians were given as much money as the Jews, we would have landed on Alpha Centauri.
        2. Genry
          Genry 11 March 2018 14: 23
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Space X was in a small “plus” in 2017. According to analysts
          profitability of about 3%.

          According to the calculations of some analysts.
          What commercial projects made a profit if each launch is on the verge of payback, if there are a large number of non-commercial launches.
    7. Finches
      Finches 11 March 2018 12: 36
      +6
      The kid has money and he is happy to spend it on a hobby that is useful for all of humanity - why not! And the largest NASA state corporation is actually in the anus, let someone say that Roscosmos is not better, but so far astronauts fly to our ISS on our rockets, and not vice versa ... laughing
    8. ASG7
      ASG7 11 March 2018 12: 45
      +7
      Against the background of the former Shuttles and even former Saturns, Mr. Max’s technology is the sucking of a finger, and I don’t see anything to be proud of here. In the age of nuclear technology, we invent a bicycle - that’s the joy. This is firstly, and secondly, whoever will take out the garbage from space for him (in the form of his favorite car), he could launch it to Mars, however, he cannot.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 21
        +1
        At the cost of the load removed, a clear breakthrough, as well as the return and reuse of the first stages with a rocket engine. And he kicked the development of private astronautics.
        1. ASG7
          ASG7 12 March 2018 15: 59
          0
          Thus, we will soon learn how to launch satellites using the forces of young rocket science circles, and almost free of charge, here is just a breakthrough. And for the return of the first stages from the liquid propellant rocket engine, sorry for my French, from the point of view of the cost of fuel for landing (because it also needs to be lifted into space), the Shuttle concept is more cost-effective. But by the way, you probably know that in Russia they are moving towards lowering the cost of production of rocket engines - for me this is a more correct direction.
    9. san4es
      san4es 11 March 2018 12: 46
      +7
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Without any pump ....
      A satellite weighing in .... successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit
      wink
    10. Genry
      Genry 11 March 2018 14: 10
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Without any fanfare, in early March, Space-IH launched the anniversary 50 Falcon-9.

      Waiting for the message: Space X launched the 150th anniversary Falcon-9 with a 100th car and a 200th manikin on board.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 23
        0
        150th, it will likely be BFR - with the landing of a man on Mars, in the year so 28-30th.
        1. Genry
          Genry 11 March 2018 18: 05
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          50th, it will likely be BFR - with the landing of a man on Mars, in the year so 28-30th.

          While this has been written with a pitchfork on the water .... But the Mask, for sure, will not be close anymore.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 March 2018 18: 48
            0
            I would not be so sure - the Raptor engine for this interplanetary transport system has been undergoing fire tests since last year.
            1. Genry
              Genry 11 March 2018 19: 19
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              The Raptor engine for this interplanetary transport system has been undergoing fire tests since last year.

              They write that the tests passed, but no one will say how they ended.
              Judging by the name, this is a dead and dead end development. Although I really want all Maskolubs to fly to Mars. At that side at least.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 11 March 2018 21: 30
                0
                We have such engines remained experimental loners, if everything goes well then Raptor will be the first in the world serial rocket engine with a full-flow closed cycle.
    11. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 11 March 2018 14: 50
      +3
      Musk brought out unnecessary garbage to anyone in the form of a car - everyone howls with joy and throws their caps into the air.
      Russia quietly and without pump displays satellite communications to improve the quality of life of earthlings - nobody cares.
    12. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 11 March 2018 21: 11
      +5
      Alex, hi !
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Without any fanfare, in early March, Space-IH launched the anniversary 50 Falcon-9.
      A satellite weighing in 6 t the size of a bus was successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit.
      Why don't astronauts fly on Mask rockets? Surely there would be less headache than passengers asking for us? Okay, about “Saturn” and “Atlas”, in order to avoid the city of ss ... ch, we will not remember - that is the lost knowledge of ancient civilizations ... But here it is! I don’t want to fly! Gagarin was launched - and so many successful launches were not ...
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 49
        +1
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Okay, about “Saturn” and “Atlas”, in order to avoid the city of ss ... ch, we will not remember - that is the lost knowledge of ancient civilizations ...

        Strongly said
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 12 March 2018 00: 54
          +6
          Quote: Setrac
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Okay, about “Saturn” and “Atlas”, in order to avoid the city of ss ... ch, we will not remember - that is the lost knowledge of ancient civilizations ...

          Strongly said

          No sarcasm lol - if we take into account the age of the Great American Civilization, then the 1960-th, say, a year - and in fact it will be "a deep old tradition" ....
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 March 2018 12: 23
    +3
    Mask obviously did not work. In vain, he sent a car to no one knows where ... When will this scam burst, finally ...
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 11 March 2018 12: 25
      +4
      The next crew to Tesla will fly Musk himself, otherwise the mannequin is worn alone to rub somewhere! wassat Complains that one is bored lol
      1. Trevis
        Trevis 11 March 2018 12: 28
        +2
        Musk will personally fly to Mars! laughing Only radiation protection bungles and forth.
    2. penal battalion
      penal battalion 11 March 2018 12: 28
      +6
      Columbia Pictures Film Company Doesn't Present: Sequel from director Justin Lin "Star Trek Ilona Mask"
    3. Simple
      Simple 11 March 2018 12: 45
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In vain, he sent a car to no one knows where ...



      By the way, the trajectory is known so that lovers of rarity, so in fifty years, will have something to do.
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont 11 March 2018 12: 26
    +3
    I bow to Hollywood and MMMmask
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 11 March 2018 12: 29
      +1
      Indeed, this is how Putin will outnumber the pepelats and the gravitational in animated form ...
    2. Simple
      Simple 11 March 2018 12: 48
      +1
      Quote: Dormidont
      Bow to hollywood and MMMmask


      Spit three times on this MMM
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 25
      +1
      This is MMM translated as Mask - Manager, Marketer, Well done.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 14: 41
        +8
        The last word is different only.
        The end of the "ring", I suggest yes
    4. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 11 March 2018 16: 03
      0
      Kremlin elders were led just before the Reagan clown show "Star Wars". I hope the fools are over.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 11 March 2018 12: 28
    +7
    (mannequin sitting at the wheel of a car)

    someone explain why, for what purpose? will they be sent next time? and he will drive the vast expanses of the universe behind the wheel of a car? recourse
    1. penal battalion
      penal battalion 11 March 2018 12: 38
      +6
      someone explain why, for what purpose?

      Striped bastards decided to take scrap metal in the area of ​​Alpha Centauri ......
      Here is the first piece of iron and sent laughing wink and a mannequin .....- like a scarecrow, from humanoids ....
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 11 March 2018 12: 43
        +5
        Quote: Penalty
        Striped bastards decided to take scrap metal in the area of ​​Alpha Centauri ......
        Here is the first piece of iron and sent

        they could take a closer look, they take metal on the edge, and they pay extra for it ... wink
        1. penal battalion
          penal battalion 11 March 2018 12: 45
          +5
          Agree! But already such pomposity will not be !!!
          And here - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxies !!! laughing wink
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 11 March 2018 14: 07
      +1
      Usually they send a metal blank meaningless and merciless. From which no use, but then made a huge advertisement.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 37
        +4
        I'm not special, but I think, after a year in outer space, this car and dust will not remain.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 11 March 2018 16: 00
          0
          If space were so destructive, there would be no problems with garbage. Presentation will lose, but will fly very long
    3. Genry
      Genry 11 March 2018 18: 08
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      (mannequin sitting at the wheel of a car)
      someone explain why, for what purpose? will they be sent next time? and he will drive the vast expanses of the universe behind the wheel of a car?

      This is how he gets rid of objectionable critics.
  5. assa67
    assa67 11 March 2018 12: 34
    +6
    Quote: voyaka uh
    A satellite weighing in 6 t the size of a bus was successfully launched into geo-stationary orbit.

    at the beginning of March there was supposedly a launch ... the leaders of NATO countries and the hangers-on would cram into this bus ... sorry there isn’t such a bus ...
  6. emwave
    emwave 11 March 2018 12: 42
    +2
    That’s exactly what I’ll never understand - why the hell should a passenger car with a mannequin run? Something is obvious with the brains of the guys. Was there a payload? All this is strange ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 11 March 2018 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: emwave
      to hell a car with a dummy run?
      This is a private company. And Musk is a rather eccentric person. He wanted to have fun, pinned. Can afford it. Take it easier.
      1. emwave
        emwave 11 March 2018 12: 53
        0
        Because of such pranksters in orbit all shit is immeasurable. Tesla’s likelihood of getting into the American astronaut who went out into space is because Mask will sue, if anything, his own.
        1. Topgun
          Topgun 11 March 2018 13: 50
          +4
          you have very vague ideas about space - just look out the window and look at any car and the whole background, which is visible from the window - does it take up a lot of space? But this tiny piece of land is visible to you from the window ... the orbit of the earth is even more space than the surface of the earth itself, moreover, this space is three-dimensional ... and when you consider that the machine is not in orbit of the earth, but in the orbit of the sun where the earth itself is already with respect to all this space - a grain, you can imagine the likelihood that some cosmonaut will fall under the wheels of the roadster less than if an elephant falls somewhere in Siberia on his head ...
          1. emwave
            emwave 11 March 2018 13: 55
            +2
            Theorist, jokes must be understood. And there is really a lot of garbage and it is very dangerous in orbit.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 11 March 2018 14: 08
              +1
              Usually they put a blank into the trashy Earth’s orbit at the entrance of the test launch, and instead Musk launched it into the orbit of the Sun. On the contrary, he sharply reduced the usual garbage of such a launch
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 41
                +4
                Stop! What is the orbit of the sun? Does it still revolve around someone?
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 14: 52
                  +5
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Does it still revolve around someone?

                  Essss good laughing good
                2. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 11 March 2018 15: 30
                  0
                  Around the earth of course.
                  1. Topgun
                    Topgun 11 March 2018 16: 22
                    0
                    no car mask revolves around the sun
                    https://smoliarm.livejournal.com/364236.html
                3. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 11 March 2018 16: 02
                  +1
                  First, the Earth moves around the Sun, i.e., in the orbit of the Sun.
                  Secondly, the Sun moves in an orbit around the center of the galaxy.
                4. sabakinashkura
                  sabakinashkura 11 March 2018 16: 14
                  +2
                  It’s good that we invented the Internet and ruined coincidence, otherwise the housewives would have expressed themselves))))
                5. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 12 March 2018 01: 10
                  +5
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Stop! What is the orbit of the sun? Does it still revolve around someone?

                  Vyacheslav! Do not disappoint me! crying Sorry, a little picture - the rest is easily available on the Internet at astronomical sites ...

                  Just to spin, like the Sun, around the center of the galaxy, you need to have a speed of 47 km per second relative to the Sun .... The sun itself moves in orbit at a speed of about 260 km per second. Does Musk already know how?
  7. gig334
    gig334 11 March 2018 12: 47
    +6
    As I understand it, something heavier than the car, these missiles can’t lift. Simply put, Brown's disease in the United States has remained. They still cannot create powerful rocket engines, so they chose the lightest for the place of full load, this is a car. Simply put, while it is only a beautiful toy, no more. So the United States will continue to buy rocket engines from Russia. And it’s not progress now, it was progress at the time when Gagarin flew into space, but this achievement belongs to Russia (USSR). But the nuclear engine that Russia created, this is the progress of the present time.
    1. emwave
      emwave 11 March 2018 12: 55
      +2
      Let the guys have some fun. Hollywood deep in the brain.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 11 March 2018 13: 20
      +4
      The first (test) launch was with a test load of 1.5 tons.
      Instead of the usual piece of concrete, they took (for advertising purposes) a car of the same company owner.
      The second launch of Falcon Heavy will be with commercial multi-ton cargo.
    3. mvg
      mvg 11 March 2018 13: 24
      +6
      When you were still walking under a table on a pawn, the US Space Shuttles launched. Somewhat heavier than Tesla and returned them, which is funny, without the USSR’s engines. Yes, and Apollo also flew like that.
      PS: Tie a bang-idiocy, start thinking not a booty. It’s time to grow up.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 45
        +4
        Saturn flew maximum to the Atlantic, Apollo only to orbit a few turns!
      2. gig334
        gig334 11 March 2018 17: 17
        +2
        Quote: mvg
        When you were still walking under a table on a pawn, the US Space Shuttles launched. Somewhat heavier than Tesla and returned them, which is funny, without the USSR’s engines. Yes, and Apollo also flew like that.
        PS: Tie a bang-idiocy, start thinking not a booty. It’s time to grow up.

        So grow up and learn history, and do not show your ignorance, and your youthful maximalism. Let them take their shuttles then, and put a payload into orbit,
        it’s cheaper than buying rocket engines from Russia. More precisely, your Apollo did not fly anywhere, because Brown's rocket engines were unsuccessful, they could not put the necessary cargo into orbit, for which he was removed from his high position. And its engines, as unpromising, stopped developing. Enough already vtyuhivat all the canoe about it, about flying Americans to the moon, etc. For yourself, leave these nonsense.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 March 2018 18: 52
          0
          Video for fools - 60 million Americans do not believe in landing on the moon - for that they believe in Superman.
        2. mvg
          mvg 11 March 2018 20: 49
          +2
          We were not talking about the commercial component of the Shuttle, but that the Americans are able to make RD-180 class engines themselves. What are they doing now (will do).
          Saturn 5 is the most load-bearing rocket, the Shuttle took off in 81, and Buran in 88, ALWAYS the Americans were one step ahead. Despite the fact that Gagarin is the first.
          PS: Regarding the withdrawal of goods - just look at the statistics of launches in 2017. One Musk launched as much as Russia. And the statistics are getting worse every year.
          PPS: And we still don’t have a normal solid fuel engine. Commercial.
      3. pak1100
        pak1100 11 March 2018 17: 30
        +5
        Quote: mvg
        When you were still walking under a table on a pawn, the US Space Shuttles launched. Somewhat heavier than Tesla and returned them, which is funny, without the USSR’s engines. Yes, and Apollo also flew like that.
        PS: Tie a bang-idiocy, start thinking not a booty. It’s time to grow up.

        Tie yourself up with cheers-idiocy, and don’t insult people by showing your weak-mindedness. Grow up, learn to communicate with adults. There are no facts, you can’t argue, then do not meddle in these topics, so this is not your thing. Watch better series, for example American, if you are so fan of their Hollywood and American fiction.
        1. mvg
          mvg 11 March 2018 21: 01
          +3
          It is easy to communicate with adults, with idiot idiots - annoying. Regarding dementia, isn’t it said a lot? What facts, links or google to you to unban? Or again, we will talk about having no analogues in the world? Ahead of the planet. And the country in 2018 - a raw materials appendage? And it’s the Americans who are buying CNC machines from us, ordering us to build ships, and Aeroflot uses only Il and Tu .. and not 20-30 year old Boeings.
          PS: By the way, American TV shows are more interesting than Sklifosovsky or Capercaillie. An order of magnitude.
          1. gig334
            gig334 11 March 2018 22: 22
            +2
            Quote: mvg
            It is easy to communicate with adults, with idiot idiots - annoying. Regarding dementia, isn’t it said a lot? What facts, links or google to you to unban? Or again, we will talk about having no analogues in the world? Ahead of the planet. And the country in 2018 - a raw materials appendage? And it’s the Americans who are buying CNC machines from us, ordering us to build ships, and Aeroflot uses only Il and Tu .. and not 20-30 year old Boeings.
            PS: By the way, American TV shows are more interesting than Sklifosovsky or Capercaillie. An order of magnitude.

            I gave you the facts above in the video, and there all experts from this field who understand in rocket science and give the facts explain there. Listen to adults and not noah. And watch the bazaar, it’s not a kindergarten, so you don’t need to show your tantrum. The Americans are buying rocket engines from us, and we are also putting their satellites into orbit. And many countries want to become a raw materials appendage of Europe, including the United States and Saudi Arabia, which is why the mess in Syria began. The United States wanted to oust Russia from the European oil and gas market, to draw an oil and gas pipe from Saudi Arabia through Syria to Europe. After all, oil and gas are a lot of money for the country and the budget. And this is medicine, pensions, the defense industry, salaries, schools, etc. Therefore, don’t be dumb anymore, first we think, and then we write
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 12 March 2018 00: 37
              0
              There are no facts - but there is turbidity drawn by the ears to the fact that the authors do not know. Laughed about the earth - "It should be 13 times bigger" - in a club. Fantasy Flight is Over - LRO's 2009 Lunar Module Landing Shot same shot by LRO in 2011
            2. mvg
              mvg 12 March 2018 05: 02
              +1
              Hey, adult ... I would have been following the bazaar myself. Why did you get the idea that I can be on you. Was drinking with me on the brudershaft? I read in passing a couple of articles, watched 3 programs obvious-incredible and now an expert in the field of rocket science and the world economy? Oh well. I kind of got 2 educations, both technical and economic. I think I have the right (moral) to have my own opinion on these topics, the more so there was an aerospace department at the institute, and I read more articles than a couple.
              PS: Yes, I always think first .. until my head hurts.
          2. Setrac
            Setrac 12 March 2018 00: 59
            +1
            Quote: mvg
            PS: By the way, American TV shows are more interesting than Sklifosovsky or Capercaillie. An order of magnitude.

            So no one argues, American science fiction rules, for example, about the flights of Americans to the moon.
            1. Pingo
              Pingo 12 March 2018 01: 25
              0
              this Moon was given to you - if this airless cobblestone were smaller and closer to the Earth as satellites of Mars or as the ISS, would your spears also break?

              In order to safely master or study it, you must first build a lunar inhabited station with additional landing modules in order to be able to help astronauts on its surface, and to develop completely different rescue systems for them because at launch or landing parachute descent will not work.
              and only then build a base on it itself, and you have to move only on the surface, it is possible to fly on Mars somehow.
  8. emwave
    emwave 11 March 2018 12: 57
    +3
    A private company with state financing and a lot of debts, yeah, yeah ... you can afford it. Some of the Tesla top managers are quitting - probably because of the eccentricity of Mask.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 28
      +3
      There state funding is already at a minimum - "a lot of debts" - what? As an example, Boeing has a loss of 1,5 billion over the past year - neither of which continues to produce aircraft and develop new ones.
    2. Korax71
      Korax71 11 March 2018 17: 57
      +2
      Open the list of founders of the space company. Are there many government agencies there? For the use of NASA's infrastructure, Musk pays a very real rent. Now it’s also building its launch pad.
      1. Pingo
        Pingo 12 March 2018 13: 56
        0
        and then what? it is sponsored, financed, favored, and programs competing with it, such as in the USA, there was another Constellation program before the SLS, where on the contrary almost everything was smart, and Obama picked up and canceled it, almost finished.
  9. askort154
    askort154 11 March 2018 13: 15
    +2
    Musk - Mavrodi to the 13th degree. "Mask pyramid" of cosmic dimensions. Whoever is closer to the base of the pyramid is in chocolate. Who is closer to the top is bankrupt. Payback of such a start, at least 6-8 successful launches. Mavrodi is hiding somewhere in the jungle. Where will Musk hide in 10 years? On Earth, or on Mars? They will find him everywhere on Earth, so he organizes a super-fake that he is already on Mars. belay
    1. Topgun
      Topgun 11 March 2018 13: 57
      +3
      from whom should he hide? from myself? (SpaceX is his company, he did not sell it to anyone because he wants to fly to Mars, and if there are shareholders, then they can forbid him)
      I don’t know loans for SpaceX, they take money from economic activities (launches into space) and from various state programs (it’s not loans and you do not need to return them).
      from whom should he run away?
      1. emwave
        emwave 11 March 2018 14: 11
        0
        Is everything as good as you say?
        http://www.mk.ru/economics/2017/10/14/smi-
        uznali-o-massovykh-uvolneniyakh-v-tesla.html
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 11 March 2018 15: 56
          +3
          Quote: emwave
          Is everything as good as you say?
          http://www.mk.ru/economics/2017/10/14/smi-
          uznali-o-massovykh-uvolneniyakh-v-tesla.html


          1. What does Tesla have to do with it?
          2. Have you read the original article yourself? What is said about the expansion of production by five times in connection with the launch of the new Model 3, about the dismissal of 400-700 people

          "A spokeswoman said most of the layoffs were administrative and sales positions, as well as outside production. Tesla employs about 10,000 workers at its Fremont factory."
          1. Topgun
            Topgun 11 March 2018 16: 27
            +1
            ah stop it
            everyone knows that Musk is a swindler, and Tesla is a soap bubble
            scored loans and now his company is designing a large rocket so that he can escape to Mars ...
            (sarcasm)
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 11 March 2018 19: 07
              +3
              I would like to be such a con man - the Tesla company 8 years ago was worth nothing, but now it costs 57 billion.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 11 March 2018 14: 49
        +3
        From whom from whom? Have you already forgotten?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 30
      0
      If he takes a man to Mars, he will have half the world of investors.
    3. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 11 March 2018 15: 36
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Musk - Mavrodi to the 13th degree. "Mask pyramid" of cosmic dimensions. Whoever is closer to the base of the pyramid is in chocolate. Who is closer to the top is bankrupt. Payback of such a start, at least 6-8 successful launches. Mavrodi is hiding somewhere in the jungle. Where will Musk hide in 10 years? On Earth, or on Mars? They will find him everywhere on Earth, so he organizes a super-fake that he is already on Mars. belay


      What exactly is he Mavrodi? SpaceX rocket launchers exist not only on paper but have a very real existence, and the company itself carries out real orders for which it receives money, so there is no deception here. About payback, let's leave it to investors of SpaceX companies .... if we take the history of the founding of this company, it has existed since 2002 and has been successfully developing for 2018, so far there are no prerequisites for the company to ruin, well, even if (suddenly) If this happens, then a lot of private commercial companies have appeared on the US market regarding startups, which with pleasure will take the place of SpaceX, so there will definitely not be a place empty.
  10. Vadim851
    Vadim851 11 March 2018 13: 36
    +3
    Reading the comments, to put it mildly, I am surprised. Many cannot reconcile themselves to the fact that a private company (even if they even help it) is already practically ahead of Roskosmos launches. We must not rely on the failures of competitors, but develop our segment. Regarding the launch of the car - firstly, such a time is now, advertising and shows are important, and secondly, who decides to launch a satellite right away, when there is such a high risk of failure, given the complexity of the propulsion system.
    Soviet LVs are outstanding for their time, but the groundwork is not endless, at the moment there is no FLYING superheavy rocket and first stages returning, some are laughing in vain at the last ...
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 11 March 2018 14: 04
      +3
      Some can only laugh ... through tears. laughing
    2. emwave
      emwave 11 March 2018 14: 05
      +5
      I also have a friend who admires Mask.
      You are slipping under the nose the appearance of private enterprise. Musk - a project of the top of the United States (from the Department of Defense to NASA inclusive).
      Do you really think that Russia does not know where it is moving?
      Comrade, calm down, everything will be fine.
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 11 March 2018 14: 12
        +1
        Yes, even reptilians - the main result is, the satellites take out the rockets, and how this result is achieved from us is neither cold nor hot. I am calm, and unfortunately, while we are moving towards a decrease in the global share of launches, especially commercial ones.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 41
        +3
        “Do you really think that Russia does not know where it’s moving?” - To the sidelines of the commercial launches of foreign satellites, then there will be a serious reduction of Roscosmos, with all the consequences for NGOs, design bureaus, factories, military launches, small domestic commerce, and also almost complete the absence of research missions - our space program will not survive. It will only remain to sell rocket engines and satellite equipment abroad.
      3. Korax71
        Korax71 11 March 2018 18: 06
        +2
        You for the future. Nasa is really a state office, but all its achievements are a national treasure. And any US citizen can take advantage of the work. Regarding entrepreneurship:
        In the course of the year, 101312 units were delivered to S and X models, which is a third more than the 2016 release. Last year is the first for Tesla in which it broke through the “ceiling” of 100 thousand cars a year. To increase production by THREE YEARS — there are no such rates for “serious” automobile companies, at least in the memory of the current generation.
    3. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 11 March 2018 16: 19
      +1
      Quote: Vadim851
      Reading the comments, to put it mildly, I am surprised. Many cannot reconcile themselves to the fact that a private company (even if they even help it) is already practically ahead of Roskosmos launches. We must not rely on the failures of competitors, but develop our segment. Regarding the launch of the car - firstly, such a time is now, advertising and shows are important, and secondly, who decides to launch a satellite right away, when there is such a high risk of failure, given the complexity of the propulsion system.
      Soviet LVs are outstanding for their time, but the groundwork is not endless, at the moment there is no FLYING superheavy rocket and first stages returning, some are laughing in vain at the last ...

      And really. Where are we, Sivolapim, to Bulba with turbo mode? Really, Zmagar? The next daughter of the Crimean ohfitser, only from uwait rashens.
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 11 March 2018 17: 41
        +2
        Everything, the transition to personality, politics has begun ... everything is clear.
      2. Vadim851
        Vadim851 11 March 2018 17: 47
        +1
        And to be honest, if such projects were in Russia, or the PRC and even where, at least, I would be no less happy. Any success in space is an important step for ALL mankind. Our Earth is just a grain of sand and not that sphere where you can conflict.
    4. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 41
      +2
      And this one. Do you even read about where SpaceX came from? And then write that the private trader overtook Russia? fool
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 12 March 2018 10: 36
        +1
        The history of creation, the NASA competition, etc. we know that. But the status of the company is private and Musk there is not only a talking head, as many believe.
    5. Setrac
      Setrac 12 March 2018 01: 03
      0
      Quote: Vadim851
      Soviet LVs are outstanding for their time, but the groundwork is not endless, at the moment there is no FLYING superheavy rocket

      Realize the reality - super-heavy missiles are not needed, you need to increase the efficiency of medium-sized missiles, so that the starting mass of the ship has more payload in percent. Gigantomania is a dead end.
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 12 March 2018 10: 16
        0
        The superheavy, in terms of the reasonable, for flying further than the moon, is needed very, especially manned. You can’t increase the efficiency too much already, or if the fuel is different, the price will be fantastic. No one says that we need a carrier with a starting mass of 10 thousand tons. But 1,5-2 thousand tons for a couple of launches a year - needed.
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  12. Usher
    Usher 11 March 2018 14: 22
    +2
    Some crap. And landing modules, in general nonsense.
  13. gridasov
    gridasov 11 March 2018 14: 41
    +2
    Everything as usual . Musk PR in front of the people invested in his money. He uses the latter opportunity to justify his unpromising projects. And what is hoping for? Everyone can see and understand that a lot of money has been invested in projects that have no development prospects. It hurts quickly time began to run
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 March 2018 14: 55
      +1
      "Which do not have development prospects." They bring him money, and at the same time they are an excellent attractive advertisement for investors. And about the development prospects - our Angara 12 years of work, we spent 180 billion rubles - the result is two flights and complete without prospects in commercial launches. Now they are making the next non-flying rocket, Soyuz 5, which is another 200 billion and works for 10 years.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 11 March 2018 15: 12
        +2
        You didn’t notice that time flies now much faster than before. It is said, of course, not scientifically. And if for scientific reasons, the reason is an increase in the density of events in that astronomical period, which we observe as daily, monthly, and annual cycles and beyond. Therefore, very quickly after the illusion of success, collapse occurs if there is no development of prospects only in positive terms. Mask projects have no breakthrough scientific foundations that would shape these perspectives. Therefore, we can only talk about technologies for inflating new bubbles, not only in the field of finance, but also investment technical projects. Somehow everyone forgot about science!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 11 March 2018 17: 33
          +1
          Russia unfortunately does not have the same thing or anything new in rocket science, except for nuclear weapons;
          1. gridasov
            gridasov 11 March 2018 18: 15
            +1
            I am surprised by such a mild reaction to what I said. By the way, if they used ..... a simple solution, then you would not have to separate the nuclear reactor itself from those devices that go along the chain. It’s not for nothing that Leonov spoke of “superunification”
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 36
            +1
            Here fool man speaks for mask projects. And the liberoid part cannot help but crap the country - But unfortunately in Russia. To your regret. If someone like you is sorry, then I rejoice. There is something to answer Grdasov’s comment, except for lamentations about the fact that Russia is completely bad? fool
            1. gridasov
              gridasov 11 March 2018 23: 01
              +1
              Personally, I believe that Russia is developing correctly. But! It is necessary to better and more confidently uphold positions at all levels. And the main thing is not to interfere with the development of the part of the population that wants and can do it. By the way, I plan to develop in Russia as well.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 12 March 2018 00: 40
              0
              It’s bad with astronautics - it’s good with rocket engines, since we quickly develop and launch them in series.
  14. mavrus
    mavrus 11 March 2018 14: 43
    +1
    I still don’t understand, but what's the catch with this car ... And if it touches them so much, then what was the problem with launching a passenger car into space in the 60s. Did they have an extra car then?
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 11 March 2018 15: 20
      +4
      Quote: mavrus
      I still don’t understand, but what's the catch with this car ... And if it touches them so much, then what was the problem with launching a passenger car into space in the 60s. Did they have an extra car then?


      They are touched by the development of a new super-heavy Falcon heavy rocket, and the launch of the car is a payload model, the launch vehicle which first made a test flight.
  15. slipped
    slipped 11 March 2018 16: 39
    +6
    Quote: Vadim237
    “Do you really think that Russia does not know where it’s moving?” - To the sidelines of the commercial launches of foreign satellites, then there will be a serious reduction of Roscosmos, with all the consequences for NGOs, design bureaus, factories, military launches, small domestic commerce, and also almost complete the absence of research missions - our space program will not survive. It will only remain to sell rocket engines and satellite equipment abroad.


    This is not the first time I have noticed that you are carrying an outright blizzard. Just yesterday there was a commercial launch of the Soyuz-ST-B rocket from the French cosmodrome, the cost of launching which was much cheaper in price than that of the same Mask. If there are problems with the release of missiles from TsiH, which Mask used, this does not mean that other manufacturers have the same. At the RKZ in Samara, more than 40 missiles in reserve. The workshop is jammed to the eyeballs. This year and next year, Van Web launches were contracted. More than 10 launches. Yes, and the same ILS is now entering the market next year with an average Proton.



    Energomash has contracts for the supply of two different engines through 2019 inclusive. And the RKZ Progress is getting ready for the release of Soyuz-5. There are problems in the industry, not without it, but everything is being solved.
    So do not lie about that which you have no idea.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 11 March 2018 17: 04
      +3
      Per kg, the Mask is cheaper than in the Union with Kuru.
      1. slipped
        slipped 12 March 2018 00: 19
        +1
        The price is weak to say? "Soyuz-2-ST-B" with Kuru calmly pulls the Maxovsky freight "Dragon" on the DOE, per kg at the price of "Progress")))
      2. Pingo
        Pingo 12 March 2018 00: 23
        0
        per kg Falcon-9 is the same as Proton, the launches of which are launched by an American intermediary company.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 March 2018 17: 20
      +2
      Yes, they are being solved, only here at the Mask they are being solved faster, there are more and more launches every year, and as always, we have “Progress” - until the next drop and with each drop the insurance premiums for the launch will grow.
    3. adrianjensen
      adrianjensen 11 March 2018 17: 27
      +2
      the alliance on the geostationary station doesn’t extinguish a lot, and most commercial satellites do it on the geostationary station
      1. slipped
        slipped 12 March 2018 00: 43
        +1
        January 28, 2017 Soyuz-ST-B with Frigate-MT S Kuru launched the Hispasat 36W-1 Spanish geostationary satellite weighing 3220 kg at GPO Which, after its power on electric rocket engines, was carried on to the GSO. Little or many, but it is a full-fledged geostationary communications satellite with a large number of transponders.

        And after it, on May 18 last year was SES-15, also at GPO and weighing a ton less, but also geostationary.

        Down and Out trouble started. Operators should try it out.
  16. stasimar
    stasimar 11 March 2018 17: 15
    +1
    Divorce for enthusiastic idiots.
    1. adrianjensen
      adrianjensen 11 March 2018 17: 28
      +2
      don't be jealous of it for all of humanity
      1. Pingo
        Pingo 12 March 2018 00: 24
        0
        for mannequin
  17. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 11 March 2018 17: 56
    +1
    Quote: starogil
    Whose cow would moo .... Get out of the occupied territories, demolish the buildings you built
    walls, give the opportunity for millions of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes, to their
    land, destroy nuclear weapons, disarm, and most importantly, stop on the sly,
    bringing up some neighbors on others to kindle discord and conflict between them ....

    laughing tongue laughing lol
  18. Crane operator Nahamkinson
    Crane operator Nahamkinson 11 March 2018 18: 41
    +5
    Reading comments, citizens of the country
    with a white and blue flag, you think.
    What a difficult life they had in the USSR.
    5 point probably can’t forget.
    That complex.
  19. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 11 March 2018 19: 11
    +1
    We would have at least one billionaire, invested in something the same, in our country. Yes, at least a decent car factory.
    1. gig334
      gig334 11 March 2018 20: 18
      +2
      Quote: Herman 4223
      We would have at least one billionaire, invested in something the same, in our country. Yes, at least a decent car factory.

      Russia has been producing decent cars for a long time, get out of the 90s.
      1. adrianjensen
        adrianjensen 11 March 2018 20: 31
        +3
        Quote: gig334
        Quote: Herman 4223
        We would have at least one billionaire, invested in something the same, in our country. Yes, at least a decent car factory.

        Russia has been producing decent cars for a long time, get out of the 90s.



        See it from that series
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 29
          +1
          Yes, you don’t even have pens from cars; some traders do it at night. And what's interesting again is Putin. I don’t watch videos with him, but you are constantly. You have a phobia.
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 12 March 2018 01: 09
          +1
          Quote: adrianjensen
          See it from that series

          On YouTube there is a video of how NATO troops jeeps drop from planes - admire, you will like it.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 11 March 2018 21: 34
        0
        Call one decent - not from the cargo.
        1. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 31
          +2
          Look Kaluga, under Peter, etc. And trucks aren't cars? Are you afraid to merge?
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 12 March 2018 00: 27
            +3
            Well, yes. I never thought that Renault, Ford, Volvo Russian cars. H-ray ours? Renault Sandero base, Renault Logan West base. Interesting you get laughing body welding lines imported, paint-imported, power plants and transmissions imported, designers and basic design solutions imported. oh, well, it’s kind of how we will do the engines ourselves ... in factories built on foreign headstock and their production lines. foreign companies will also receive the main profit from sales. As a result of our Syzransky there clips and caps and a badge winked what about trucks then? KamAZ !!!! motor carmines under license, the color of the cabin used to be dupont, right now I don’t know, maybe axalt. As a person very close to cars I’ll say that even in the best years of the USSR, localization was about 75%. And this does not include borrowed ( sometimes stereotyped) design decisions. if a cadillac is made in merikosia, then all offal from the motor to the electronics is their own development. although they don’t shy away from the same Lexari and put the Brembo braking system. but only this goes as an option. for your grandmas. tell me, and Do you know at least one automatic transmission, injection system, control unit of domestic production? That's the trouble that no one in the world knows request so where is our normal auto industry?
            1. Pingo
              Pingo 12 March 2018 00: 44
              0
              Is there anything foreign in German MAN trucks? yes everything is belarusian except the cabin
              Kamaz abruptly MAZ
              1. Korax71
                Korax71 12 March 2018 10: 44
                0
                I understand that your knowledge in cars comes down to the fact that there is a steering wheel and pedals, it’s already good. Localization of the production of Maz-man in the best years was 60%, localization of KamAZ-good if 40%. KamAZ, like Maz, God already knows how much time they put ZF boxes, motors or geldings or kamins, I am silent about the control units and electronics. As for the belaz coolness, well, the biggest in carrying capacity is 450 tons. That's only in the category of up to 400 tons of belazik in flight. beside him there are libkhers, kets, tereks, komatsu. and the most interesting !!!! when did Belarus become Russia and its auto industry was domestic? Like with 91g it is a sovereign state? Do all developed countries have their own companies producing mining dump trucks. What is the Russian one that produces dump trucks with a capacity of 200 to 350 tons, the most common class?
                1. Pingo
                  Pingo 12 March 2018 13: 52
                  +1
                  read about MAZ-MAN and stop repeating your mantras, import is put in KamAZ for advertising at motor races.
                  1. Korax71
                    Korax71 13 March 2018 14: 31
                    0
                    For those who are on an armored train. Localization of the Maz-man is only 60%. Here and ask what it is, even if French cabs are put on the mazs of the latest modifications. KAMAZ-Rukalitsa. Go to anyone and look under the booth. Or they too everything is racing. please, KAMAZ 5490, motor-Daimler OM-457LA, rear axle-axle Daimler HL6, the transmission is equipped with a 16-speed manual transmission ZF Astronic 16S2221 (manufacturer - Germany), complemented by a single-plate clutch MFZ 430. even the seats from Grammer air suspension. d isine cockpit-gelding
                    1. Pingo
                      Pingo 13 March 2018 22: 25
                      0
                      for those who are in it, the “localization” of MAN in Germany is 10%, because a luxury cabin is placed on the Belarusian chassis, the engine is chosen at will, mostly Belarusian
                      they are suitable in the USA and Canada - everything is Russian there, and import quotas, only with the justification that the company does not fit its own equipment in such conditions.
                      1. Korax71
                        Korax71 14 March 2018 01: 45
                        0
                        I realized that it’s not possible to talk with you for some reason, i.e. You don’t understand the subject of the dispute either in your youth or in old age. In Germany, full-throttle production of trucks is underway. What kind of Belarus are you rubbing me in. Considering that Maz Man buys frames for his Pepelais in China, with processing and reaming at home Motors supplied with 98 Man, so they are still being driven, in particular, MAZ-MAN 756539 with a 6x6 wheel arrangement, D2066LF01 vans, not of Belarusian design and development. The ZF box was still there. Only the cabin is now own how in 2005 the supply of cabs from Germany from Man f2000 ceased, and the stamp was sold to the Chinese. go learn the part.
                    2. Pingo
                      Pingo 14 March 2018 02: 09
                      +1
                      already double understood that "for mp" in your profile vryatli about Russian
                      then they probably take their Belaz in India
                      type in google "Kamaz in the USA and Canada"
                      1. Korax71
                        Korax71 14 March 2018 03: 32
                        0
                        I already wrote about large-tonnage dump trucks. About KamAZ it’s ridiculous. What is the share of these cars ??? 0,000001% ??? It’s not ridiculous myself. In Novosibirsk, they work in sections and Liebher and Komats. I don’t shout that it’s all-forks. it's just that you still have to tell that the offal of our equipment has not been ours for a long time. and if you know what the abbreviation of the Airborne Forces means, then you will also find the MP. But at the same time you will find out about Google on November 27, 1705, and then hang me up about Russia. And teach me again mat part. I wrote in the posts above the name of the power units and transmissions.
                    3. Pingo
                      Pingo 14 March 2018 05: 10
                      +1
                      They wrote to you that the market in the USA is not free, there are no duties - just a ban on the purchase if there is no justification, and this is before any “sanctions” that have always existed.
                      Why did the director of a career in Novosibirsk roll back in Belarus? Now Belarusian products are not being brought to Russia badly, not like Belazy, Italian stools for armored cars took fashion
                      you can still dial KAMAZ in US and Canada, read reviews, the Belarus tractor is also quoted.
                      But the whole Russian sky is in shabby and rarely new foreign airliners, although Russian ones are better, because Russian banks do not give money for leasing Russian products, those that had previously been helped from the treasury at the expense of taxpayers. And because the service of this air junk, and the regular qualification training of pilots on simulators (who also want to hang out beautifully) are also foreign. Therefore, airliners that got to the Russian Federation after Uganda fall with people and air tickets in Russia at the same distance are more expensive from 3 times.
          2. Pingo
            Pingo 12 March 2018 00: 29
            +2
            he is unconscious, purely philistine. for him, the stroller will be cooler than Belaz, because I want this
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 12 March 2018 00: 43
            0
            The trucks are decent - but the cars want the best, including build quality.
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 11 March 2018 20: 52
    0
    I’m very surprised that the launch film Falcon Heavy and Starman doesn’t happen to the music of We Are The Champions
  21. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 11 March 2018 22: 28
    +1
    Boribasar,

    And Obama Ch. M. O. !!! tongue
    1. Pingo
      Pingo 12 March 2018 00: 33
      +1
      He specially hacked the post-shuttle "Constellation" in which one of the two launch vehicles was suitable for launching into near-earth orbit to allow the Mask to frolic. SLS is planned only for deep space. And he said that only "private traders" would be put into orbit.
      In Russia, members of the Mask Mask circle in Proton tanks throw and short-circuit the wires crosswise. Its start-up costs three times less if without wraps from an American intermediary company located in Baikonur
      1. Pingo
        Pingo 12 March 2018 00: 59
        +2
        Moreover, at SLS, the accelerators were made disposable so that their simple descent by parachute into the water for reuse did not introduce popcorn eaters into cognitive dissonance after viewing Falcon-9 stage landings on floating platforms.
  22. garius
    garius 11 March 2018 23: 25
    0
    Previously, NASA shuttles threw into orbit, but now only buses. Max didn’t come up with anything new. Alas. But the people "hawala". There are two further options - either "anti-gravity" (which is too fantastic), or the construction of a spacecraft in orbit with a nuclear (thermonuclear) power plant (here is closer, but the question is about materials for space).
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 March 2018 00: 48
      0
      There is already a question of means will be in the first place, for this nuclear - thermonuclear spacecraft. Maybe Mask will buy YARDU from us when we finish work on this installation.
      1. slipped
        slipped 12 March 2018 06: 26
        0
        Okay in terms of swimming, but why continue to carry nonsense? For space, Rosatom is creating a compact nuclear reactor of high power and they will not sell it to anyone - this is absolutely accurate. And here is the scope of its application in astronautics - from satellites or newly designed orbital tugs with ionic traction to power the planetary bases. Widespread such application. Even research on the topic was opened and not one.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 12 March 2018 22: 17
          0
          "Even R&D on the topic was discovered and not one." Let's see what sense they will have - the main thing is that they would not turn halfway as: MAX, Russia M, Clipper, Air Launch.
  23. slipped
    slipped 12 March 2018 00: 32
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    Yes, they are being solved, only here at the Mask they are being solved faster, there are more and more launches every year, and as always, we have “Progress” - until the next drop and with each drop the insurance premiums for the launch will grow.


    You yourself, then realized what he said? ))) Of all the 160 “Progresses” we had, only 3 were not withdrawn, and that was the fault of the launch vehicles.

    The funny thing is, no one is chasing launches from us, there is a certain schedule and on it all LVs like Soyuz-2 and Proton are scheduled for payloads, including those contracted for commercial orders. And it so happened that most of all MON fall on the next year and beyond. And this year it is planned to launch more than in the past.
  24. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 12 March 2018 11: 32
    +1
    Return the trampoline back to us ...
    Since I started (two), why the headlights do not light up on the car, the dashboard does not light up, has it been charged at all, that is, have it been powered up? So clean for every fireman. And more frost-free ones.
  25. Korax71
    Korax71 12 March 2018 14: 51
    +1
    A. Privalov,
    Unsubscribed in PM repeat if he finds something interesting for himself, maybe you can make an article on VO about this. good
  26. Mentat
    Mentat 12 March 2018 17: 05
    +1
    Quote: sefevi
    then you will have the moral right to denigrate the great achievements of ALL mankind. Although this seems never to be!

    “All of humanity” is the USA? Not too deep ... think? Do not choke there ... with delight.

    Envy silently. Some comments only cause contempt!

    Envy of what? You expand your statement there, then there will be something to answer. With pictures and videos, intelligibly for you. You are used to high cultural achievement, comics.

    When you get people like Musk, Gates, etc.,

    I don’t know who you mean by others, but people like Musk do not need to. Enough of your own chubais, you can’t erase it with dust.

    About how Gates paved his way to success, you probably should read more. Give better any other names.
  27. slipped
    slipped 13 March 2018 03: 08
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    "Even R&D on the topic was discovered and not one." Let's see what sense they will have - the main thing is that they would not turn halfway as: MAX, Russia M, Clipper, Air Launch.


    MAX - cooperation and the result would be like with the An-70, if that tells you something. Russia-M turned out to be undersized, they did it right. that they closed, Clipper - did not fit into the lunar program with Europe. The air start was commercial, discontinued due to lack of money from the investor.

    These programs have nothing to do with the nuclear reactor being developed by Rosatom.
  28. slipped
    slipped 13 March 2018 03: 16
    +1
    Quote: Pingo
    per kg Falcon-9 is the same as Proton, the launches of which are launched by an American intermediary company.


    ILS is a division of the TsiH. Falcon 9 is more expensive, the price is lower on it Space X in some of its launches, trying to compensate for the difference in cost by government launches. For example - launching a commercial satellite ~ $ 62 million, launching a military satellite or the same Dragon on the same rocket> $ 90 million. The Dragon has a payload of $ 89 kg.
  29. Mentat
    Mentat 13 March 2018 19: 47
    +1
    Fresh article in RIA News for fans of the Mask:
    https://ria.ru/analytics/20180313/1516187957.html