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"The man who saved the world." What surprised the Western tape about the Soviet officer

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"The man who saved the world." The name of this artistic documentary tape looked, frankly, trivial, and therefore exciting viewing, as it initially seemed to your humble servant, was not intended. All the more strange (before watching) positive reviews from colleagues seemed to be, which they managed to watch the Danish filmmakers on the premiere series.


Western tape about the Soviet officer? Well, what can they show us about our officer? ..

Bearing in mind how, in principle, our (Soviet / Russian) military personnel are shown by Western filmmakers, something was predicted from the series “Half-Inadequate Throwing a Valenok on the Remote” - as a mixture of Western disregard with internal (not always analyzable) self-irony.

The initial shots of the film Peter Anthony and Jakob Starberg began to confirm the conjecture that the film is from a series of propaganda Russophobic shit: bottles of alcohol scattered around the house of a retired officer, dirt, a tape with sticky flies, a dull view from an unwashed window. I wanted to go out already in order not to become a witness to another anti-Soviet / anti-Russian order with a claim to documentary.

But it did not come out ... And did not regret it. Frankly did not regret.

Now I re-read what was written, and decided that it looks as if these same Anthony and Starberg had sponsored the Military Review in order that we should promote them to the film. He grinned ... If someone thinks that this is the case, then this is, of course, his own business, but it will only be in the extreme to make a mistake. In fact - the material is absolutely personal author's assessment of what had to be seen on the screen. Evaluation audience, not imposed on anyone.

And on the screen I saw what, perhaps, I had never seen before from Western filmmakers: the Soviet officer was shown not as the fruit of the sick fantasy of his service from the next liberal screenwriter, but, first, as a person who has both a soul and own opinion, secondly, from the first person.

"The man who saved the world." What surprised the Western tape about the Soviet officer


We are talking about a person about whom, frankly, not much is known in our country. He did not fly into space, did not command the front, was not a "permanent military expert" on TV. He was and always was a Soviet officer, Stanislav Petrov, who 35 years ago - the September night 1983 of the year - really saved humanity from an inevitable nuclear catastrophe. Without pathos! Saved humanity with its difficult individual decision.

The idea of ​​Danish filmmakers, by and large, is clear: to show the Soviet officer, who ventured to go against the system, ignoring the instructions, and the Soviet system, in fact, did not forgive him because his decision hit the bosses with “big stars” and jackets with access to long black limousines and even longer dark corridors with carpets. To be honest, this is “traced” in the film. But still, even if such a goal was pursued by the creators of the film “The Man Who Saved the World”, then ultimately it did not become the main one.

The main thing was what was told about man as the crown of the creation of nature - with all its flaws and virtues. And the main thing in this case is the presence of non-obscure paper prescriptions, often born of bureaucrats, intelligence, intelligence. - A person who, even in the most difficult conditions, is able not to look for a way to curry favor by hiding behind someone’s back, and who is ready to take responsibility. And he took responsibility. He took it because he was a real officer - a), a real person - b) and was not, as they say now, a “divan warrior” - c).

This, sitting on a couch, you can easily argue that "we just press a button to show the strength and power." But in fact, the strength and power is not just with poking hands on all the buttons that come to hand, but to make the only right decision, behind which millions of human lives can stand.
It makes no sense to retell the entire movie. Who is interested - he will look.

It is based on real events - the very same ones, when 26 of September 1983 of the year, Lieutenant Colonel of the Air Defense Forces Stanislav Petrov assumed the post of operational duty officer at the command post of Serpukhov-15. It was on that night that the previously adopted (in many ways crude) USO-OS Oko early warning system issued a launch signal from the continental position in the USA of five ICBMs LGM-30 Minuteman. The interval for receiving signals was a few minutes. According to the instructions, Lieutenant Colonel Petrov, after the first actuation of the system, must take action - to inform the command of the need for retaliatory action. However, Stanislav Petrov, after the first activation of the “Eye” system, which, apparently, took the “play of light” (reflection of sunlight from clouds located at high altitudes) for launching an ICBM, reported “false alarm”.

Many colleagues of Lt. Col. Petrov frankly perplexed about his decision. In the meantime, a visual observation team was trying to track the rocket route on screens that received information from satellites. No visual evidence of the launch of intercontinental ballistic missiles from the United States was received, but the computer persistently signaled a missile attack on the USSR.

The decision to retaliate was not taken, which made the situation at the command post prohibitively nervous. When the first pseudoracket "entered" in the detection zone of the Soviet radar, information about a false alarm was confirmed - there were no launches. It was the early detection system that played a cruel joke, which, if Lieutenant-Colonel Petrov made a decision on the instructions, could, without exaggeration, bury humanity.

This is both a measure of responsibility and the role of an individual in stories civilization. Yes - many instructions are written in blood, but there are also those who unequivocally say that people should place too high hopes on the created “iron” in order to entertain their self-esteem and admire how a person “easily conquers nature”. Thank God, nature picks up such people who are ready to prove that not every directive should be blindly trusted, as it was then - on an autumn night of 1983, when the planet had only one chance. This chance had its name - Stanislav Petrov, lieutenant colonel of the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 13 March 2018 07: 20
    +11
    I don’t know what I would do. I just don’t know ... I don’t have an answer. such a monstrous burden of responsibility for the whole world! it’s such a strong, reinforced concrete psyche that you need to have in order not to respond with Start immediately, but to analyze the situation ... just Tin. soldier
    1. Firework
      Firework 13 March 2018 08: 20
      +2
      watched the dock. the film was about being selected for strategic forces in the USA, there were two candidates in the film; the first one was all nervous and anxious; he was not taken by another calm as a boa constrictor, and not surprisingly, he passed the selection
    2. svp67
      svp67 13 March 2018 10: 05
      +8
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      it’s such a strong, reinforced concrete psyche that you need to have in order not to respond with Start immediately, but to analyze the situation ... it's just Tin

      It was NOT the duty of this person to make a return volley, but only a timely NOTIFICATION of the Supreme military and state leadership about the attack. Which he did not, considering that these five starts are FALSE.
    3. brn521
      brn521 13 March 2018 13: 02
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      such a monstrous burden of responsibility for the whole world! this is what a strong, reinforced concrete psyche you need to have

      The real load on the psyche would be if early detection showed data on numerous launches stretched across the territory and in time. And five unconfirmed rockets, what can they do, even if they turn out to be real and fly? Point out to the world the real aggressor, no more. Strong defense will not undermine. An immediate massive retaliation is not required and global conflict is not a fact of what will begin.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 13 March 2018 07: 43
    +4
    Saved the world, not empty words ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 13 March 2018 14: 13
      +4
      Absolutely empty. It was not his business to decide for leadership. It was completely fair to flatten him for the assignment of powers, and it was rather strange that he was not put in charge of this trick. In order to decide whether a false start or not a false start, how to react to a system, etc. and there is a manual.
      Which will compare the received data (the USSR, of course, had more than one early warning system), assess the risks and make a decision. But where there! He’s General von Field Marshal himself! Honestly, the first impression is that this type was not punished properly.
      For me, this man is a criminal and an oath violator. And by no means is it some kind of savior!
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    1. Firework
      Firework 13 March 2018 08: 18
      +3
      You are an ordinary Troll-dropout go learn a little!
    2. Curious
      Curious 13 March 2018 08: 45
      +6
      And what, have they connected the Internet to Kashchenko?
  4. Operator
    Operator 13 March 2018 08: 07
    +6
    This is a journalistic myth - Petrov did not save the world, because at that moment the SPRN was still on experimental duty and the results of its work had no effect on anything.
    1. Firework
      Firework 13 March 2018 08: 21
      +2
      in fact, information about a missile attack goes through several channels, if only one then it is considered that this is possibly false information
      1. Operator
        Operator 13 March 2018 08: 40
        +4
        At that time, information on the experimental part of the SPRN was confined to only one person - Petrov - and did not go anywhere anyway.

        Instead of confining himself to writing in the trouble log (which was intended only for developers of the experimental subsystem), Petrov for some reason reported to his boss about another failure and received a well-deserved verbal reprimand for worrying about nothing.
    2. Moore
      Moore 13 March 2018 08: 39
      +7
      Quote: Operator
      This is a journalistic myth.

      The only sober comment. In real life, Lt. Col. Petrov simply acted as a professional: he was able to correctly assess the situation, figured out the reason and did not allow the issuance of false information to the KP SPRN.
      Journalists inflated this much later to a feat of world significance.
      Alas, at about the same time false signals came to the Strategic Missile Forces a couple of times, which could be identified as combat signals to launch missiles. In time, they sorted it out and did not raise kipzh to heaven.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 13 March 2018 11: 34
        +3
        Quote: Moore
        at about the same time, false signals came to the Strategic Missile Forces a couple of times, which could be identified as military signals to launch missiles. In time, they sorted it out and did not raise kipzh to heaven.

        These are all tales ... For this it was necessary to change the operating mode of the ASBU equipment of the main and duplicating ones, confirmation by the Central Bank and other duplicating means of communication and other necessary conditions ... which is impossible neither theoretically nor practically. In any case, for the 30-year service in At about the same time, the Strategic Missile Forces did not hear anything about this ...
        In the Strategic Missile Forces there Special service the task of which, inter alia, includes the organization of measures to prevent missile launchers.
        1. Moore
          Moore 13 March 2018 16: 21
          +3
          Quote: Ascetic
          These are all tales ..

          It is not worth it so peremptorily affirm something. Do I need to name the year and place where they took BR (without W, of course)? About NSD / NSP I do not need to tell. Of course, it didn’t reach the start-up operations, I didn’t write about this, but about the cries from the higher command: "Do nothing, we are waiting for DR!" I had to hear.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic 13 March 2018 18: 05
            +4
            Quote: Moore
            where they took BR (without W, naturally)

            Actually, the BR itself only means a change in the operating mode of the equipment ... then any order may follow, not necessarily a start-up, to be brought to the WSBG, for example, but BRUSH, even without W, I doubt very much ...
    3. Volodin
      13 March 2018 11: 54
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      This is a journalistic myth.

      So after all, the “truth” is one of the “journalistic myths” all around: about 28 panfilovtsy, about Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, about Pskov paratroopers, about Pavlov's house, and about the heroes of besieged Leningrad. Nobody influenced anything - what kind of heroes are there - so ... it came to light ... by accident and came to Berlin by chance ...

      By the way, less than a few months passed, and someone has already managed to announce that there was no Roman Filipov's feat in Idlib - "well, they shot down, well, a grenade exploded in my hand ... - that didn't affect anything ... everything journalists have invented. "

      Quote: Operator
      Petrov for some reason I reported to my boss (...) and received deserved verbal reprimand for anxiety for nothing


      And rightly so - the authorities have nothing to worry about ... Just think, signals about five launches of ICBMs - write down yourself, Lieutenant Colonel, in a notebook and sit, do not twitch. Maybe then someone will read, maybe mistakes and correct, and then everyone had to lift his ass and work harder. Of course, reprimand!
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 13 March 2018 19: 10
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        And rightly so - there’s nothing to disturb the bosses over trivialities ... Just think about the signals about the five launches of ICBMs — write yourself, Lieutenant Colonel, in a notebook and do not twitch.

        If the system was on experimental duty, then just like that: sit, gather statistics and then compare with information from other systems. A damp system with under-caught fleas can detect anything from a UFO to Santa Claus on a sleigh with 12 deer.
        Quote: Volodin
        Maybe then someone reads, maybe mistakes and corrects

        But to carefully fix all the errors and malfunctions in the system and make a formidable document for filing "up" and "to the side" (industry) - this is precisely the task of Comrade Lieutenant Colonel.
        Quote: Volodin
        So after all, the “truth” is one of the “journalistic myths” all around: about 28 panfilovtsy, about Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, about Pskov paratroopers, about Pavlov's house, and about the heroes of besieged Leningrad. Nobody influenced anything - what kind of heroes are there - so ... it came to light ... by accident and came to Berlin by chance ...

        As I understand it, there are no concrete arguments to refute the mythological character of the episode with the salvation of the world - and you have to draw the blockade and the Pskov paratroopers by the ears?
        By the way, canonical "28 Panfilov’s, who didn’t miss German tanks at the cost of their lives"- this is just an invention of Krivitsky. Dobrobabin guarantees. As well as the headquarters of the 1073 joint venture 316 sd, the command post of which in Yadrovo on 16.11.41/14/30 at 1075:XNUMX exactly from the side of the neighboring XNUMX joint venture went German tanks:
        16.11.41 at 14:30 tanks of the regiment in Yadrovo entered the command post of the regiment in the first echelon of 12 units, then in separate groups there were only 30 units.
        © Operational Bulletin No. 83 by 23:00 p.m. 18.11.41/1073/XNUMX Shtapolk XNUMX.
  5. shuravi
    shuravi 13 March 2018 09: 41
    +9
    Is that what? Site "Military Review", or "Novaya Gazeta"?
    Oh, yes, as I have already explained, the main thing here is to observe spelling and punctuation, and you can make any nonsense in the content.
    However, I will try to explain.
    Decision making on retaliatory nuclear strike, nowhere, at any stage can be tied to the decision of one person. As well as the testimony of one of the systems.
    As well as the need for rushing with a retaliatory strike. Even taking into account the possible defeat of part of the Soviet nuclear weapons, the remaining forces were more than enough, but the fact that to destroy the whole world was more likely to produce a “control shot in his head”. For already only a massive strike by nuclear weapons on the territory of the USSR, plunged the whole world into a nuclear catastrophe of the type: the living envy the dead.
    And the maximum, what was discussed here, is about "putting ears" on the troops, with all these measures to get out of attack, or "let the soldiers sleep a little."
    They didn’t deliver, thanks for that.)
    1. Volodin
      13 March 2018 12: 29
      0
      Quote: shuravi
      However, I will try to explain.


      Quote: shuravi
      Making a decision about a reciprocal nuclear strike, nowhere, in any of the stages can not be tied to the decision of one person.


      Seriously? And here in general, no one even was aware of ... Thanks for the clarification ...

      Quote: shuravi
      Is that what? Site "Military Review", or "Novaya Gazeta"?
      Oh, yes, as I have already explained, the main thing here is to observe spelling and punctuation, and you can make any nonsense in the content.


      This is a worthy statement, very worthy ...
      1. shuravi
        shuravi 13 March 2018 13: 23
        +2
        Quote: Volodin


        Seriously? And here in general, no one even was aware of ... Thanks for the clarification ...



        You would speak for yourself, about all of you not according to rank.
        Well, the fact that the level of modern journalism is lower than the plinth is a long-known fact.


        Quote: shuravi
        Is that what? Site "Military Review", or "Novaya Gazeta"?
        Oh, yes, as I have already explained, the main thing here is to observe spelling and punctuation, and you can make any nonsense in the content.


        This is a worthy statement, very worthy ...


        What do you want? Here is an example from one of the local statues:

        From the very beginning, a “high-speed” rotor with a low efficiency in hovering mode was installed on the helicopter. As a result, at the “twenty-fours” it is very difficult to use ATGMs in hover mode, maneuver at low speeds and implement such an effective method of fighting armored vehicles as a short-term vertical jump due to natural elevations, with hovering in place and simultaneously launching guided anti-tank missiles. Moreover, at full combat load, pilots prefer to take off on an “airplane”, with an runway run of 100-120 meters

        It seems like all the commas are in place. Yes, essentially nonsense.
        1. Volodin
          13 March 2018 13: 37
          0
          Quote: shuravi
          You would speak for yourself, about all of you not according to rank.

          So you would do well to speak for yourself, in your rank. And then some of your phrases in this comment look as if you alone know how everything was in reality.

          Quote: shuravi
          And how do you want?


          If you have a specific claim to my material, then speak out on them. Why do you cite excerpts from other people's materials? It’s like you make a complaint about another reader’s comment on another article.

          In general, no offense, but still your comment on the article had, to put it mildly, not the most direct relationship.
          1. shuravi
            shuravi 13 March 2018 13: 58
            +2
            Quote: Volodin

            So it would not hurt you to speak for yourself, in your own rank.


            And here I am saying so.

            And then some of your phrases in this comment look as if you alone are aware of how everything was in reality.


            Well, unlike you, I have some knowledge in this area.


            If you have specific complaints about my material, then speak out on them.


            Which I did.

            Why do you quote excerpts from other people's materials? It’s the same as making claims against another reader’s comment on another article.


            For example.

            In general, no offense, but still your comment on the article had, to put it mildly, not the most direct relationship.


            No offense, but your article is just a collection of speculation. As you have shown, stating that deciding on a nuclear retaliatory could depend on one person.

            And your reasoning about couch warriors is just a laugh.
            1. Volodin
              13 March 2018 14: 12
              0
              Quote: shuravi
              Well, unlike you, I have some knowledge in this area.

              That's it, that some ...

              It is good that the right place at the right time was exactly Lieutenant Colonel Petrov, and not those who have "some" knowledge.
              1. shuravi
                shuravi 13 March 2018 14: 51
                +4
                Quote: Volodin

                That's it, that some ...


                Of course. I do not pretend to absolute knowledge.
                Another thing is that you don’t have any at all.



                It is good that the right place at the right time was exactly Lieutenant Colonel Petrov, and not those who have "some" knowledge.



                Indeed, a shame for domestic journalism. Well, in army subtleties you are zero, but where is the journalistic acumen, attention to detail, an attempt to figure out what the filmmakers wanted to say?
                Really, in the comments people are far more perspicacious than you.
                You, sweetly blow bubbles, having seen, in your opinion, a “heroic personality”.
                Meanwhile, your client, an ordinary one with no idea of ​​officer honor.
                Take at least this:
                bottles of alcohol scattered in the house of a retired officer, dirt, tape with adhering flies, a dull look from an unwashed window.
                It’s already enough if the officer, with the rank of lieutenant colonel, has slipped to this, it does not matter. in reality, he lives like that, or allowed himself to be shown as such.
                Moreover, an officer, and not a person who received officer epaulettes due to a misunderstanding, will never impersonate the savior of the world, especially, before the west and an unrecognized hero in his homeland.
                Well, almost personally having the right to strike.
                Moreover, no matter what opinion (he could not make any decisions), the result would still be the way it is. So the system was arranged that it won’t reach you in any way.
                So that's it.
                1. Volodin
                  13 March 2018 15: 21
                  0
                  Yes, you, my dear, tyrant tyrant, and even with delusions of grandeur. - Neither ethics, nor dignity, only “artistic whistle”: Journalists are not such, the officer is not an officer.

                  It is good that there is a "BO", where your rudeness and tyranny have someone to listen to.

                  Apparently, no wonder other readers have "hinted" to you more than once.
                  1. shuravi
                    shuravi 13 March 2018 16: 58
                    +3
                    Quote: Volodin
                    Yes you, my friend, tyrant tyrant tyrant, and even with megalomania. -


                    What is already there, add more Afghan and Chechen syndromes, to complete the picture. hi

                    Neither ethics nor dignity
                    ,

                    Not the boys to judge my dignity.

                    only "art whistle":


                    This is how your article is. And not even a whistle, but a whistle of a frankly propagandist-deceitful film. The purpose of which is simply to pour a bucket of slop on the USSR.


                    Journalists are not like that


                    That's it, that is not like that. After all, as I already said, you have even the slightest attempt to figure out:
                    - why is this movie?
                    - how was it really?
                    - have there been similar cases before?

                    But you don’t need to google far, but on the site:
                    https://topwar.ru/106491-chetyre-sluchaya-kogda-m
                    ir-nahodilsya-na-grani-yadernoy-voyny-mezhdu-ssha
                    -i-sssr.html
                    Four cases. And if you turn on the brain, it is immediately noticeable that the authors of the movie "for some reason" were inspired by the most insignificant of them. In fact, even far-fetched. For the whole storm swept on a segment of the telephone line between the duty officer and his boss.
                    Meanwhile:

                    November 9 1979 The computers of the North American Joint Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) National Control Center located in a bunker in the interior of Mount Cheyenne, the Pentagon National Command Center and the Fort Richey Reserve National Command Center reported that the Soviet Union had launched a massive nuclear strike in order to destroy the US command and control system. Immediately at all three command posts, a meeting was launched with senior military officials. The Launchers of the Minitman ICBMs received a launch preparation team. An alarm was announced throughout the air defense system, at least ten interceptors were immediately lifted into the air. The plane of the presidential air command post was also lifted into the air, although without the president himself on board.

                    3 1980 June years at the command posts of the United States again received a warning about a missile attack. Once again, a launch preparation team was sent to the launchers of ICBM Minitman, and the crews of strategic bombers took their places on planes. But this time, the computers did not give a clear and coherent picture of the attack, as last time. Instead, constantly changing numbers of the number of launched missiles were displayed on the screens. Moreover, at different command posts these figures did not always coincide. Although many officers did not take this incident as seriously as the previous one, an emergency meeting was convened again to assess the possibility that the attack was real. The source data from satellites and radars were again verified. Again, not a single system confirmed the fact of a missile attack.

                    This is no longer a dispute over the phone, such a move could well provoke retaliatory measures.

                    Nevertheless, “progressive humanity” prefers not to notice it and creates myths, as the USSR almost plunged the world into a nuclear catastrophe.
                    After all, it does not show how the system coped with the failure caused by one negligent officer, there an officer saves the world contrary to the system. And like if it weren’t ..
                    And some journalists support this.


                    an officer is not an officer.


                    Of course. It was his duty. distinguish facts from failures. And make yourself a hero against this background.

                    It is good that there is a "BO", where your rudeness and tyranny have someone to listen to.


                    How naive you are.

                    Apparently, no wonder other readers have "hinted" to you more than once.


                    An appeal to the public? Understand. laughing
                    1. Hantengri
                      Hantengri 13 March 2018 21: 56
                      0
                      Quote: shuravi
                      An appeal to the public? Understand.

                      Well yes! Indeed, according to minors de 'Bill (s), truth is determined solely by the number of “likes” in the “blog”. lol
                      PS (Especially for the afftor. Volodin Bish?)
                      "Juvenile de 'Bill is not age in the passport. It's a state of the brain!" (c) Goblin.
  6. soldier
    soldier 13 March 2018 11: 00
    +15
    I haven’t watched a movie
    Need to make up
  7. brn521
    brn521 13 March 2018 13: 12
    +2
    And in between, the film tried to remind Western residents that the savage with a nuclear club still exists, even if he was blown away to the state of the Russian Federation. It may be possible to inflate the coals of the past psychosis, when the townsfolk did not bother at the expense of military spending to the detriment of their own living standards.
  8. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 13 March 2018 13: 45
    +1
    "... Anthony and Starberg sponsored War Review to make them publicize their film ..."
    Strongly said! Specially looked at the number of visitors IN ... Not impressed, and some kind of PR is not able to create ...
  9. iouris
    iouris 13 March 2018 15: 18
    +1
    This whole story was invented at one time to solve specific propaganda problems: a simple Soviet officer saved the United States (the rest of the world is not very important). Today this is no longer relevant.
  10. Military Specialist
    Military Specialist 13 March 2018 15: 47
    +6
    Again this record was launched ... for the umpteenth time !!! The complete amateurism of the author of the article, and many commentators, is striking. Let me remind you again: our PRN system includes two echelons: 1-th - space, 2-th - a group of over-the-horizon radar SPRN. Information from both echelons flows to the CP of the SPRN, where the final decision on the current situation is made and the appropriate signal is issued to the Supreme Commander and to the KP of senior management. So no Petrov (Sidorov, Ivanov, etc.) could in principle give a signal for RESPONSE actions. Moreover, at that time, the US-K (US-KS) system was actually on pilot combat duty and we, as specialists, were engaged only in bringing it to the required condition, and the reliability of the information from this echelon was always in question.
  11. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 13 March 2018 16: 24
    +2
    The film is an ordinary propaganda garbage about the fact that Russians cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons and the fate of the world depended on a dormant officer, although it is clear to a layman that the world would not start on his daclad 3, he violated the charter, could report on the goals and possible system failures, and if if it were true, and our pro systems did not manage to turn into a combat situation, there would be a deserted desert in the place of Moscow. I hope now we have such people do not serve at such holy posts
  12. Huumi
    Huumi 13 March 2018 17: 52
    0
    Great movie .... Hero recently died ...
  13. shuravi
    shuravi 13 March 2018 19: 33
    +1
    Quote: Military Specialist
    Again this record was launched ... for the umpteenth time !!! The complete amateurism of the author of the article, and many commentators, is striking. Let me remind you again: our PRN system includes two echelons: 1-th - space, 2-th - a group of over-the-horizon radar SPRN. Information from both echelons flows to the CP of the SPRN, where the final decision on the current situation is made and the appropriate signal is issued to the Supreme Commander and to the KP of senior management. So no Petrov (Sidorov, Ivanov, etc.) could in principle give a signal for RESPONSE actions. Moreover, at that time, the US-K (US-KS) system was actually on pilot combat duty and we, as specialists, were engaged only in bringing it to the required condition, and the reliability of the information from this echelon was always in question.



    Do you think it will come? Empty business. What arguments do not bring, but this character is an excellent idol for the pseudo-patriots of the Yeltsin bottling.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 13 March 2018 21: 48
      +3
      Quote: shuravi
      Do you think it will come? Empty business. What arguments do not bring, but this character is an excellent idol for the pseudo-patriots of the Yeltsin bottling.

      it is pointless to prove, it is enough to ask the question - what is the difference between Serpukhov-15 and Solnechnogorsk. The correct answer puts all the dots on i on the question of saving the world as a lone hero.
  14. Vladycat
    Vladycat 14 March 2018 01: 58
    +1
    Infa popped up in my head. Maybe he got an interview, maybe a similar case. Well, the point was that an attack with so many missiles was called into question. Our "sworn" friends had similar cases too. The technique of those levels was far from perfect. And the fact that they inflated! Well, let. A normal educational role model, and not ours. Let him live. But let me remind you of Zhvanetsky’s quote "the feat of one is always a crime of the other, it is a pity that we do not know the true heroes of the occasion"
  15. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 14 March 2018 09: 00
    0
    The author of "K-19" didn’t look at least? They shoot in Hollywood about us (when they want) quite soundly.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 14 March 2018 10: 13
      0
      Quote: M. Michelson
      The author of "K-19" didn’t look at least? They shoot in Hollywood about us (when they want) quite soundly.



      Yes, yes, of course:
      https://www.pravda.ru/culture/cinema/foreigncinem
      a/05-06-2003/31894-truth-0/
  16. shuravi
    shuravi 15 March 2018 13: 17
    +1
    So what is left over?
    A certain officer served, let’s say, he served himself completely, and by the end of the service (and he was dismissed after reaching the age limit for active duty) he rose to the rank of lieutenant colonel. After all, in the Soviet army. It was considered a success to grow to a major.
    In the same aviation, the overwhelming majority of pilots went into the reserve as captains, and navigators and equipment, so generally senior lieutenants.
    In addition, this officer was in good standing with his superiors. Proof of this, the order "For Service to the Homeland" of the third degree, which he was awarded shortly before his transfer to the reserve.
    It was a strange order, until the early eighties. Despite the fact that the holder of all three degrees was equated with the hero of the Soviet Union, his attitude to him was a little more than to medals for long service. And how could it be otherwise, if it was an order of peacetime, and in fact it is a sign of the difference between loyalty to higher authorities.
    Everything changed with the beginning of the entry of Soviet troops into Afghanistan, then the liquidation of the consequences of the Chernobyl accident was added.
    Until now, the little revered order suddenly gained weight and earned the respectful nickname "Sheriff".
    And I suppose that in this history inflated by journalists, it was this order that played a key role.
    For from now on, this order was evidence that a person had been in the present case. Well, of course, aroused curiosity and questioning.
    And what was to be said so as not to cause disappointment, - Ah ...
    All that was left was how to rummage in memory, remember which case was from the service and correctly submit it. Best of all, posing as the only savior of the world.
    Actually, the officers, and not only those who were associated with combat alert cases when "the world was on the verge", had a carriage and a small cart.
    But then they are officers to keep their mouths shut. And to seek recognition abroad, it is generally unworthy.
    Needless to say, such a story and a similar character was just a gift from heaven.
    And it started, in general, from a far from catastrophic failure (I personally have big doubts whether it was at all, and not a figment of fiction) inflated to the scale of a world catastrophe.
    And he continues to swell further, from the “West” with a clear intention, from some of our scribblers, I hope, simply from insufficient inquisitiveness of the mind.
  17. ccsr
    ccsr 15 March 2018 21: 36
    +1
    Quote: brn521
    And in between, the film tried to remind Western residents that the savage with a nuclear baton still exists, even if he was blown away to the state of the Russian Federation.

    I agree - that’s exactly what was the goal of the filmmakers. The rest of the pathos about the usual contingency for those who went on combat duty in the strategic link of the armed forces looks at least ridiculous, if only because the hero of the film was on duty at the very last link of the warning about the beginning of a nuclear missile war. And this link should have reacted only when all intelligence systems have overslept the beginning of preparations for such a war. And this by definition could not be - this is understood by those who know what the “Circle”, “Star” and reconnaissance satellites are.
    I believe that illiterate journalists in military affairs fanned this story from sheer unprofessionalism in knowledge of military issues affecting the country's security in various directions.
  18. ccsr
    ccsr 15 March 2018 21: 50
    +1
    Quote: Military Specialist
    Information from both echelons flows to the CP of SPRN, where the final decision on the current situation is made and a corresponding signal is issued to the Supreme and to the KP of senior management. So no Petrov (Sidorov, Ivanov, etc.) could in principle give a signal for RESPONSE actions.

    I will only add that the preparation itself for a massive launch cannot be hidden, if only because it will have to evacuate the highest officials of the likely enemy and put the entire US nuclear triad on alert. But this reconnaissance sign cannot be hidden - so long before the information appears on the CP SPRN, the supreme will already have complete information on how many minutes the enemy’s missile launch is expected, and therefore no one will wait for the information that the torches have been detected.
    So the story, inflated by journalists, is clearly not a big hit - in the midst of military professionals, it causes a smile, and regret that it is so easy to fool civilians.
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 18 March 2018 17: 47
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    And now all hope for such calm responsible officers.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 19 March 2018 17: 18
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      And now all hope for such calm responsible officers.

      In the army of Israel?