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In the Ground Forces reported some functional changes in the "Warrior"

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During the initial stage of military operation, almost all the main defects of the “Warrior” equipment were eliminated. About this in an interview with the radio station Echo of Moscow said the head of the military scientific committee of the Land Forces of the Russian Armed Forces, Colonel Alexander Romanyuta. Colonel of the Russian Armed Forces noted that since the beginning of military operation in the 2015, the year has changed to 60 percent of the components.


At the same time, the head of the committee added that they continue to receive messages and suggestions from military personnel operating the military kit. Analysis of the collected data allows to improve the “Warrior”, introducing, for example, new elements.

In the Ground Forces reported some functional changes in the "Warrior"


So, in 2018, it is planned to finalize the multifunctional knife. Its functionality will be expanded at the expense of the device for loosening and tightening the screws, as well as at the expense of a set of interchangeable screwdrivers that are indispensable in the process, for example, routine maintenance weapons.

Recall that previously reported the introduction of the third generation of individual equipment "Warrior-3" to 2023 year. The set is supposed to be equipped with improved life support systems and individual protection. It is also planned to replace the communication systems used today.

Today, the “Warrior” is equipped with armor-jackets and body armor, combat overalls, a headset with an active hearing protection system, special glasses, knee and elbow protection elements, small arms, combat knives, as well as reconnaissance devices, compact binoculars, standardized optical and thermal sights.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 10 March 2018 18: 58
    +6
    Experimental operation is intended for this. Identify and eliminate deficiencies from the point of view of the customer.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 10 March 2018 19: 28
      +2
      And what, without a new multifunctional knife, is it premature to wear an army? winked
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 10 March 2018 19: 47
        +11
        Quote: siberalt
        And what, without a new multifunctional knife, is it premature to wear an army? winked

        If you are not in the know, then each year 50000 sets are delivered to the army.
        1. Monos
          Monos 10 March 2018 20: 48
          +6
          Yes ... You’ll probably not dress him for 45 sec. smile
      2. Locksmith
        Locksmith 10 March 2018 20: 00
        +9
        Quote: siberalt
        And what, without a new multifunctional knife, is it premature to wear an army? winked

        A knife is also a necessary thing.
        As a young man, I got to a camp site with my family, I had a pair of pliers and a Swiss knife with me from a tool. So with the help of this knife we ​​were able to at the camp site:
        1) to make skewers from wire - you don’t understand there ..
        2) rewind 10MAC speakers lol
        3) make a bow and arrow for children
        4) repair the locks in the house
        A knife is a good thing, small but functional soldier
        1. Alex_Rarog
          Alex_Rarog 10 March 2018 21: 22
          +2
          I agree a good multitool thing is useful and convenient) which code I’ll lick on lezermans already)
          1. beeper
            beeper 11 March 2018 14: 37
            +2
            I do not "lick" at all smile , I don’t feel such great enthusiasm for branded (and, all the more, counterfeit ersatz from unsuitable "stamping") multitools - they all have a major drawback - increased weight, and by 100℅ you can be sure that the rule also applies to them Paretto 20 / 80- "only 20℅ of the functionality of the constantly wearable heavy multitool will be in demand, and 80℅, most likely, will not be useful at all, or it will be required, perhaps only once or twice in the foreseeable future yes ) "!
            I had a branded multitool from "SOG", an American sister gave it, I liked it very much, everything is thought out, everything works, pliers, they are round-nose pliers and wire cutters, even a crimp for detonators (on the back of the lips) is present, but a corkscrew (screw "open air": open winked ) not included winked .
            All (the main, partly with seriatory sharpening, and auxiliary) are razor-sharp blades, they hold the sharpening very well, they sharpen a drawing pencil perfectly. Sawing a tree is very "evil", it does not wedge in a damp tree, sawed off a nut branch the thickness of a hand, without particularly straining, in less than a minute, and sawed a thicker one around and sawed it off too quickly. Files (“personal” and “velvet”))) have good hardness and effectively cut both wood and plastic, aluminum and steel, do not blunt.
            There is a universal bit holder, but bits for a fee. A ruler in inches and millimeters is notched on the body, revealing the halves of a multitool in a line can accurately measure 10 inches or 250 mm.
            Observed shortcomings:
            1) annoying-unsuccessful configuration (apparently to circumvent the restrictions patented by competitors?) Blades for opening cans; weak (due to the spring and shallow extrusions entering into the small holes on the sides of the handle) fastening of folding, U-shaped, stamped plates protecting the palm and fingers (from sharp thin edges of stamped U-shaped handles) when working with pliers, sometimes snap off spontaneously and may well be lost;
            2) related, well-perceptible weightiness, therefore, already accustomed to the presence of such a compact "tool for all occasions", I rethink my user and work experience, so that without any frills, selecting only the most necessary of the most often used tools, assemble and make, with the use of titanium alloys, a more functional and lightweight "multi" tool for your pocket.
            hi
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 11 March 2018 06: 51
          0
          Could still fix the iPhone with a knife
  2. Beltasir matyagu
    Beltasir matyagu 10 March 2018 18: 59
    0
    I wonder which warrior-3
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 10 March 2018 19: 04
      +7
      Something like this will be, plus or minus
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        1. flicker
          flicker 10 March 2018 22: 47
          +11
          Quote: kamski
          Yes, nothing will be the next CUT all as always

          Yes, we don’t especially drink, the country, frankly speaking, is not rich. That's where you can cut it in the states, they are just made for that. The Pentagon is the best and most impudent sawmill that has ever existed. And what does the United States cost to print money (and now it’s not necessary to print)?
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 11 March 2018 02: 23
            0
            Well, it’s not so sad as you write in. That they’ll cut it, of course, but the supervision of the allocated grandmothers there also be healthy. And the deadlines in the case of capture are much more real and long. This is one of the few countries where they can count money.
          2. Falcond
            Falcond 11 March 2018 09: 36
            0
            Yes, we don’t especially drink, the country, frankly speaking, is not rich

            And where is it with you ???
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 11 March 2018 00: 46
          +1
          When the T-50-1 got on the wing, some, like you, also said that.
      2. staviator
        staviator 10 March 2018 23: 07
        +1
        or this one will do too
        1. Falcond
          Falcond 11 March 2018 01: 48
          +3
          This is already Warrior-4 like
      3. Beltasir matyagu
        Beltasir matyagu 11 March 2018 01: 36
        0
        Amusing hexagons on it. Something like armor plates.
  3. san4es
    san4es 10 March 2018 19: 01
    +8
    Its functionality will be expanded due to a device for loosening and tightening nuts,

    what ... a wrench. Called bully
    1. 210ox
      210ox 10 March 2018 19: 10
      +5
      Well, in the case of something, shock weapons ... laughing The same MSL doesn’t just dig the earth ..
      Quote: san4es
      Its functionality will be expanded due to a device for loosening and tightening nuts,

      what ... a wrench. Called bully
      1. san4es
        san4es 10 March 2018 19: 16
        +16
        It is planned to finalize a multifunctional knife.

        The current MF "knife"
        The 6E6 multifunctional tool includes pliers, the main blade, an additional blade, which is a saw for wood and metal (with a ruler), an awl / reamer and a Phillips screwdriver.



        http://zonwar.ru/xolodnoe/multipurpos_knives.html
        /6E6_Ratnik.html
        1. beeper
          beeper 10 March 2018 21: 12
          +9
          Thank you, dear Sanchez! good
          Only you understand that technical news about specific weapons and ammunition needs to be provided with as specific illustrative material and, like a good Samaritan, make up for this (I think it’s a significant drawback, because it was good for me, instead of a multifunctional knife, to see the funny faces of two well-fed guys? smile ) of such "unfinished" articles yes !
          Before that, I had never seen MF's knife “Warrior”, and he reminded me very much of the style of design and thoughtful functionality, design, bright memory, respected Igor Skrylyov.
          It looks very technological and simple in design, adapted for mass production in wartime conditions, which should be a military knife.
          If only the “improvers” of the knife did not forget the basic rule of the designer-gunsmith: all parts should be rational in configuration, weight and perceived loads, multi-functional, small and immutable, preferably aggregated and with “protection from the fool” winked ".
          That is, all additional “bits” for various screw and nut heads must be “complexed” on a rigid or flexible connection (on a cable or chain, or flexibly connected to each other in the form of a chain with unfolding “bit” links) with the knife body and, in any case, not detachable (as is often practiced in civilian "multitools")!
          Good time to all readers of Topvar.ru, time of day hi
          1. san4es
            san4es 10 March 2018 21: 36
            +1
            Quote: pishchak
            ... thank you hi

            repeat ... C'mon ... On health fellow
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 March 2018 19: 29
      +8
      Quote: san4es
      .Wrench.called bully

      Multifunctional knife. Maybe something like this.
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 11 March 2018 09: 40
        0
        It's not gonna go! It seems to me that such gadgets for souvenirs go!
    3. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 11 March 2018 16: 38
      +1
      Quote: san4es
      Its functionality will be expanded due to a device for loosening and tightening nuts,

      what ... a wrench. Called bully

      Do not think of making holes hex. Unscrew the small nuts. Different in size.
  4. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 10 March 2018 19: 10
    +2
    Knife?! Forgive my ignorance, and the glasses do not sweat from the fighters with long-term wear? Especially at subzero temperatures. Is there anything at all visible?
    Or are they on the helmet just to hang nicely?
    1. san4es
      san4es 10 March 2018 19: 32
      +8
      Quote: Benzorez
      and the glasses do not sweat the fighters with long-term wear?

      Goggles 6B50
      Safety glasses consist of a body with an obturator, protective glass and a headband.
      Safety glasses can be used in conjunction with safety helmets.
      Specifications:
      Provide protection against fragments, the penetration of which is equivalent to the penetration of a steel ball weighing 1,05 g, 6,35 mm in diameter at V50% ≥ 350 m / s.
      The headband has the ability to not less than one and a half times its elongation when stretched.
      Weight - no more than 200 g.
      The surface of the protective glass has a coating that increases the resistance of the glass to abrasion and reduces fogging of glasses.
      Keep protective properties at an ambient temperature from minus 40 ° C to plus 50 ° C.
      The kit includes:
      - goggles;
      - a cover with mall mounts;
      - microfiber cloth;
      - instructions for the care of safety glasses.
    2. taiga2018
      taiga2018 10 March 2018 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Benzorez
      and the glasses do not sweat the fighters with long-term wear?

      I also have a question of a person who, during his service, could only dream of such equipment, and doesn’t the view in these glasses narrow, and in the rain it’s like ...
      1. max702
        max702 10 March 2018 23: 04
        +3
        And here it is interesting to me, but in real databases at least someone dresses them? I saw only wearing a helmet, and some sort of window dress ...
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 11 March 2018 02: 32
          +8
          When marching on military equipment, it’s a very convenient thing. At one time we took safety glasses on the construction market, those that are used when working with a grinder. There were 35 km of ventilation holes in them rich in column technology in the mountains! With glasses neither conjunctivitis nor rabbit eyes. soldier
        2. Zilibob
          Zilibob 11 March 2018 15: 43
          +3
          Yes, you think they are being given out, this is the Russian army, these Warriors in warehouses will now lie until Easter pig. This is the army, supposedly the most prosperous and certainly the most greedy. And so I see the dialogue upon receipt from the Enlightenment:
          Points to you?
          And if you break it?
          What kind of headphones? Break to nafig!
          What a backpack, a tent, a duffel bag, here’s an ordinary duffel bag, they’re not over yet, it’s better!
          What helmet monitors and bronik? Here you have an old bronik in it; three died; still wearing and wearing it. What kind of exoskeletons are figs, here are those machine guns, a pair of little pigs, two belugas winter and autumn sign and go.
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 March 2018 20: 43
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      glasses do not sweat fighters

      Back in the 60s, a film was applied to the glasses of gas masks to prevent fogging. Probably since then technology has not stood still.
    4. Falcond
      Falcond 11 March 2018 09: 43
      0
      Helmets for workers at a construction site, and fighters - a protective helmet!
      Now there are a thousand and one ways to solve the problem of fogging, if any exists! ...
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 15 March 2018 23: 30
        +1
        A helmet, it is a helmet in Africa. At least call megahelm with nano-spraying.
        Please name these anti-fogging techniques. At least the first hundred. I see you are not aware that such a problem continues to exist.
  5. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 10 March 2018 19: 28
    +1
    Why do fighters have different glasses in the photo? Find the five differences. I would choose the first. Knives, knives, and they’re of little help to a blind fighter.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 10 March 2018 20: 16
      +2
      They also have different weapons .. So the thing is probably in the tests ..
      Quote: Benzorez
      Why do fighters have different glasses in the photo? Find the five differences. I would choose the first. Knives, knives, and they’re of little help to a blind fighter.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 10 March 2018 20: 47
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      they will help little blind fighter.

      You might think that you experienced these glasses on yourself. Or do you reason by type - "I have not read Dostoevsky, but I do not like his works"?
      In your opinion, both the developers and those who took all this into service are such things that, without conducting tests and without consulting you, they just took it out and bought all the trash?
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 15 March 2018 22: 45
        +1
        "such things that, without conducting tests and without consulting you, they just took it out and bought all the trash?"
        Of course. This is what usually happens. And who will give you something worthwhile for free ?!
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 16 March 2018 01: 56
          +1
          Quote: Benzorez
          And who will give you something worthwhile for free ?!

          Interesting reasoning. Do you consider that there is nothing sensible in our weapons and equipment?
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 16 March 2018 21: 11
            +1
            "An interesting argument. Do you think that we have nothing in our weapons and equipment ?,"
            This is not reasoning, but the prose of life. You draw the wrong conclusion.
            Everything is there, but somewhere. And here and now, the guys, well, they didn’t give a ride ... So solve the problem with improvised means. It is in your own interests. Since the task, no one has canceled.
            This is not only in the army. This is EVERYWHERE.
    3. Falcond
      Falcond 11 March 2018 09: 44
      0
      How could you determine your eyesight from a photograph ??
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 15 March 2018 22: 39
        +1
        I determine vision by work. Every day of God I suffer with eyes, eye drops are my Everything. You will not believe - all manufacturers write about the magical qualities of their glasses!
        And after ten minutes of using them, the question is - did you try to wear them yourself ?!
  6. Old26
    Old26 10 March 2018 19: 32
    +2
    Quote: Benzorez
    Forgive my ignorance, and the glasses do not sweat from the fighters with long-term wear? Especially at subzero temperatures. Is there anything at all visible?

    In fact, those who use the "Warrior" say they do not sweat
  7. assa67
    assa67 10 March 2018 20: 08
    +6
    it’s good that they listen to wishes and criticism ... from the original it has changed by 60% and will still be developed ... it pleases, the fighters will be more whole
    1. poquello
      poquello 10 March 2018 20: 24
      +1
      Quote: assa67
      it’s good that they listen to wishes and criticism ... from the original it has changed by 60% and will still be developed ... it pleases, the fighters will be more whole

      WWII experience works
      1. assa67
        assa67 10 March 2018 20: 30
        +3
        but how can I say ... cuirasses for assault squads that were dragged around in warehouses in Stalingrad until the 60s ... but they really took up the armor plates in Afghanistan ... until the thunder strikes, the man crosses himself ... but let's hope hi
        1. poquello
          poquello 10 March 2018 20: 34
          +1
          Quote: assa67
          yes how to say ... cuirasses for assault squads

          not in this regard, in the Second World War they specifically clarified flaws - proposals and finalized the form
          1. assa67
            assa67 10 March 2018 20: 43
            +4
            I agree ... then it was a matter of life and death ... and then we relaxed a bit ... it is welcome that we almost caught up on time
    2. puskarinkis
      puskarinkis 10 March 2018 21: 16
      0
      I would like to believe that these 60% of changes are for the better, and not the replacement of materials with cheaper ones with a deterioration in performance. And then, somehow streamlined ...
      1. assa67
        assa67 10 March 2018 21: 23
        +4
        yes they seem to praise .... not without flaws of course ... they will improve communication, it's not bad .. let’s try
      2. Vkd dvk
        Vkd dvk 11 March 2018 16: 54
        0
        Quote: puskarinkis
        I would like to believe that these 60% of changes are for the better, and not the replacement of materials with cheaper ones with a deterioration in performance. And then, somehow streamlined ...

        In fact, everything is done (and clothes are no exception) in accordance with the drawings, technological instructions developed according to the technical specifications (for a soldier, according to tactical and technical requirements). And the achieved, if it corresponds, is approved and agreed as it should, with the participation of a military representative. From this moment, any changes cannot be made, as soon as with the permission of the representative of the customer. And he will not allow without testing.
  8. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 10 March 2018 20: 19
    +1
    In short - they created a complete dermis.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 11 March 2018 10: 45
      +1
      Well, of course! If you have crooks and thieves all around, what can they create?
      Your information is very valuable to us. Continue to monitor. We will contact you.
  9. mavrus
    mavrus 10 March 2018 20: 25
    +3
    It’s strange. Do we have that, in general, besides the notorious "echo" the colonel has nowhere to discuss the problems of the army? Very patriotic ... Or, say thank you, that it was enough to not get into the voice of America or the Russian service of the BBC (or what they have there right now?). A country of absurdity, from all the central Russian channels from morning to night (and night, probably too) all kinds of coats with michael are PR, and the colonels give interviews on echoes with rains.
  10. sedoj
    sedoj 10 March 2018 20: 50
    +1
    Its functionality will be expanded due to a device for loosening and tightening nuts, as well as through a set of interchangeable screwdrivers, indispensable in the process, for example, routine maintenance of weapons.

    But what, weapons are no longer provided for spare parts?
  11. Old26
    Old26 10 March 2018 20: 57
    +1
    Quote: Piramidon
    Multifunctional knife. Maybe something like this.

    No, exactly as in the picture from the kit. It is possible that they will modify the knife and add another blade with ring spanners and a set inside with screwdrivers, as on that knife with an adjustable wrench
  12. bessonov932
    bessonov932 10 March 2018 21: 05
    +1
    And again, the same picture on duty for illustration!
  13. Diviz
    Diviz 10 March 2018 22: 04
    +1
    warrior 3 will be. and a machine with bursting cartridges and cartridges with tungsten cores. and the battery - the generator will be taken away from the chubik and you see it will be planted. a golden dream!
  14. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 10 March 2018 22: 20
    +1
    And why the hell do you need this penknife, its need for combat does not amount to a percent, this is not a combat knife. It is necessary to focus on the means of protection, video communication links with their own kind, and cartridges with the property of buckshot i.e. the bullet flies micro-shots nearby at 100 or 200 meters. The enemy needs to be hit, injured incapacitated. And are the painkillers included in the kit?
    1. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 10 March 2018 22: 34
      +3
      Quote: VOENOBOZ
      And why the hell do you need this penknife, its need for combat does not amount to a percent, this is not a combat knife. It is necessary to focus on the means of protection, video communication links with their own kind, and cartridges with the property of buckshot i.e. the bullet flies micro-shots nearby at 100 or 200 meters. The enemy needs to be hit, injured incapacitated. And are the painkillers included in the kit?

      A pouch with analginum is provided in the upper right pocket.
    2. Korax71
      Korax71 11 March 2018 02: 41
      +1
      Included wink a regular doctor in a bag. Well, such an anesthetic, promedol is called. If you want, you can push a fighter so hard that he will bawl songs with his torn leg.
  15. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 10 March 2018 22: 50
    +6
    Quote: VOENOBOZ
    And why the hell do you need this penknife, its need for combat does not amount to a percent, this is not a combat knife. It is necessary to focus on the means of protection, video communication links with their own kind, and cartridges with the property of buckshot i.e. the bullet flies micro-shots nearby at 100 or 200 meters. The enemy needs to be hit, injured incapacitated. And are the painkillers included in the kit?


    You’ll finish school, otherwise you don’t write about it. This is not a penknife, but a multifunctional tool. Do you need it? Ask the fighters who are now acquiring them at their own expense. Well, in principle, what I mean, you only saw the army in the movies.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 11 March 2018 09: 46
      0
      On TV, the news is often shown
  16. Guru
    Guru 10 March 2018 23: 06
    +1
    Does anyone know why the glasses are different in the photo?
  17. staviator
    staviator 10 March 2018 23: 10
    +7
    So, in 2018 it is planned to finalize the multi-function knife.

    1. Falcond
      Falcond 11 March 2018 09: 46
      +2
      Will not go! Bottle openers and corkscrew are not visible!
      1. beeper
        beeper 11 March 2018 10: 17
        +2
        The openers are not visible, but it is there, even on the most budget configuration yes , without it, the knife "will not work" -You correctly noted it!
        If you look carefully, mentally dividing the picture into four equal parts, then in the upper right quarter of the picture you will immediately find a corkscrew (it’s a bit unusual for us, since it is not twisted from a spring wire, but is precision from a bar and has a tapered sharp tip for piercing holes bottle cap only).
        Just below the corkscrew, on the right tool axis of the “folding”, you can see the tip of the blade for opening canned food - most likely, next to it in order, there is an opener.
        In fact, the dimensions of the knife shown in the picture are not so pocket smile as it may immediately seem — for “scaling”, pay attention to the small-caliber revolver in the upper left quarter of the picture.
        hi
    2. Vkd dvk
      Vkd dvk 11 March 2018 17: 05
      0
      Quote: staviator
      So, in 2018 it is planned to finalize the multi-function knife.


      Where's the four-shot pistol? Do not go!
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 11 March 2018 23: 14
        +1
        A six-shot revolver is not a gun? smile
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 March 2018 23: 58
    +2
    Well, communication and other electronics must be constantly updated,
    regardless of kit model.
    Because communication and target designation are our everything on the modern battlefield.
  19. Old26
    Old26 11 March 2018 00: 12
    +5
    Quote: sedoj
    But what, weapons are no longer provided for spare parts?

    This is ancillary equipment. Multifunctional knife, so as not to carry a set of tools. Take the same Minesweeper knife for people who do this. It reminds a little of this MFN "Warrior", only the knife blade is different, not a "tanto"

    Quote: VOENOBOZ
    And why the hell do you need this penknife, its need for combat does not amount to a percent, this is not a combat knife. It is necessary to focus on the means of protection, video communication links with their own kind, and cartridges with the property of buckshot i.e. the bullet flies micro-shots nearby at 100 or 200 meters. The enemy needs to be hit, injured incapacitated. And are the painkillers included in the kit?

    In battle of course. This is not a combat knife. To do this, in the equipment "Warrior" provides another knife - 6X9

    This knife, multi-functional, is just needed outside the battle, so as not to carry a bunch of tools with you. In order to, in which case, the same housing of the video communication device can be opened not with a hammer, chisel and some kind of mother, but with the help of this multitool ..
    And everything else that you say is somehow yes, something is not. There are no micro-shots and buckshots, since shooting them from a machine gun with a rifled barrel is not the best way ...
  20. Old26
    Old26 11 March 2018 00: 32
    +2
    Quote: staviator
    So, in 2018 it is planned to finalize the multi-function knife.


    When I look at such a knife I always remember a joke about a 12-deck aircraft .... laughing
    Yes, and uncomfortable. At one time, I chose which of the “Victorins” to buy, that such a “kit” even did not fit well in my hand
  21. Falcond
    Falcond 11 March 2018 01: 51
    0
    So, in the 2018 year, it is planned to finalize the multi-function knife. Its functionality will be expanded due to a device for loosening and tightening nuts, as well as through a set of interchangeable screwdrivers, indispensable in the process, for example, routine maintenance of weapons.

    And you need a bottle opener ... and a corkscrew ... anything can happen)
    1. staviator
      staviator 11 March 2018 10: 10
      0
      No, the hussars cut the bottles of the neck smile
  22. Korax71
    Korax71 11 March 2018 02: 55
    +1
    It would be nice if you put all this into the troops in the right volume. At one time, before the business trip, you had to buy everything for your hard-earned money, from socks to unloading, knives, up to Chinese pocket radies for communication within the group. And still, it was necessary to carry 159 s to the exits a spare Akum and a traveling wave antenna. The signalman hung up. I hope now they don’t get hungry like that laughing
  23. atakan
    atakan 11 March 2018 03: 39
    0
    In an interview with Ekhumats.
    All further is not interesting. Diverge
  24. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 11 March 2018 07: 56
    +6
    At the same time, the head of the committee added that messages and proposals from military personnel continue to be received,
    For a complete analysis, you must operate the kit in full, and not store it in the troops for reviews. And for this we need a normal system of writing off and replenishing material values ​​...
  25. Urantian
    Urantian 11 March 2018 09: 25
    +2
    No wonder he was "run in" in Syria ...
  26. Wilderness
    Wilderness 11 March 2018 10: 18
    +2
    1_Someone is engaged in outright nonsense with these knives. Or even sabotage. For peacetime or for small wars, it is easier and cheaper to recommend civilian samples (lezermans, quizzes or Chinese counterparts) for purchase, even with subsequent monetary compensation, because the sample presented in the article does not go to the market and is not planned (imagine its price!). In the event of a major war, this knife is not needed - an assault rifle, helmet, boots, a scam, a gas mask, a flask - everything, the soldier is ready to defend the Motherland!
    2_What is wrong with goggles? Why are they not worn dressed? Even in Syria, with its dust, dirt, sweat? Judging by the photo for the article with an ordinary helmet, this is inconvenient or even impossible. Here are the special forces in head-covering helmets who wear glasses, and when fastened to an ordinary helmet, no one bothered. In short, some show off, although glasses are a necessary thing.
    3_Something shamefully bypassing the theme of shoes in the "warrior". During his service in the army and police in the rural wilderness he killed a pair of fifteen berets, starting with Soviet monsters on nails and ending with the current army. He concluded - one obscene, fragile, uncomfortable, expensive. Even sneakers from the hardware store or polyurethane galoshes from the market (!!!) are better and more reliable.
    4_Judging from the photo, from the point of view of developers, protective gloves are an unnecessary luxury.
    It has long been believed that people who order, design, and take uniforms and equipment do not wear it, they do not, and do not plan to wear it.
  27. Old26
    Old26 11 March 2018 13: 06
    +2
    Quote: Wilderness
    1_Someone is engaged in outright nonsense with these knives. Or even sabotage. For peacetime or for small wars, it is easier and cheaper to recommend civilian samples (lezermans, quizzes or Chinese counterparts) for purchase, even with subsequent monetary compensation, because the sample presented in the article does not go to the market and is not planned (imagine its price!). In the event of a major war, this knife is not needed - an assault rifle, helmet, boots, a scam, a gas mask, a flask - everything, the soldier is ready to defend the Motherland!

    You can certainly recommend civilian patterns and they will certainly be better than the presented pattern, but it will be "confusion and reeling." And in the army, alas, there should be uniformity. And then one has one, the second the second, the third the third. As for compensation, it is unlikely that the financial part will be happy when 2-3 hundred people want to receive compensation. Moreover, one will have 1000 rubles (or 600). and for another who wanted to have Lazerman, compensation may be 10-15 thousand.

    Yes, of course, a kmk knife is not the best option. The mushroom knife "Forester" was taken as a basis and pliers and something else were added. Saw on wood and metal of such dimensions - IMHO is not the best option. Especially on wood. It’s already better to have a saw, something like Gilly saw.

    I once bought a Chinese multitool that looks like a knife from the "Warrior". . Convenient, sometimes even more convenient than the classic multitool. But what is suitable for civilian use - HZ, is it suitable for military use?

    Quote: Wilderness
    3_Something shamefully bypassing the theme of shoes in the "warrior". During his service in the army and police in the rural wilderness he killed a pair of fifteen berets, starting with Soviet monsters on nails and ending with the current army. He concluded - one obscene, fragile, uncomfortable, expensive. Even sneakers from the hardware store or polyurethane galoshes from the market (!!!) are better and more reliable.

    Can not say anything. But the guys from the SN regiment do not complain about shoes.

    Quote: Wilderness
    4_Judging from the photo, from the point of view of developers, protective gloves are an unnecessary luxury.

    In fact, there are gloves
    1. Wilderness
      Wilderness 11 March 2018 13: 48
      +1
      To avoid confusion: to test several samples, identify several that satisfy the price, weight, dimensions, functionality, price and recommend for purchase (as in due time, or rather, until the 17th year, instead of the time sheet “nagan” was recommended “Smith Wesson” ). I don’t mind if the developer would put the knife on the market, lower the price and only then offer the army. There is a demand for them, Lezerman is quite expensive. There is no difference in civilian and military use - this is not an automatic machine.
      As for shoes, this is just my personal experience, specialists from CH can wear shoes even from the skin of the favorite dog of the American president (if necessary).
      There are no gloves in the photo, as if they were advertising a tank without caterpillars.
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 11 March 2018 23: 24
        0
        Here is a "tank" without tracks. smile
  28. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 11 March 2018 13: 06
    +4
    (It has long been believed that the people who order, design, and take uniforms and equipment did not wear it, they don’t, and do not plan to wear it.)
    I fully agree with you, but why did you abandon the boots? Boot universal shoes - shod seconds, any cloth footcloth, dump in the water without any problems, protection from the "thorns", and hit the boot. Yes, in the landing, in the Navy it is traditionally, but the infantry is crawling and burrowing. Yes, and outwardly effective looks boots rather than boots.
    1. Wilderness
      Wilderness 11 March 2018 14: 30
      +4
      And the boots do not fit into the fashionable concept of "military glamor", with an attempt to copy the American uniform and equipment of the sample of the 80s (all these shoes with hanging snot to the ground, glamorous caps instead of caps and berets, bras in the style of "Chinese militia" , rag covers on helmets (instead of normal helmets), hip pockets (in which nothing can be put)). Now the fashion for mollies has gone, they are making ribbons for everything (even Molle saw the panties with ribbons).
      And for the development of a normal boot, technologies are needed no less than for a machine. It is a pity that experience is sacrificed to momentary fashion.
      1. Zilibob
        Zilibob 11 March 2018 15: 53
        +2
        In real conditions of use, the fighters will cut it all off to the figs, and the uniform and equipment will be finished, the berets, if convenient, will be changed to sneakers or boots. I remember there were unique people who sang bravado to berets and socks, after the march without tears you will not look at their feet. And this cloud of pockets, in order to find something, you have to climb all or use only the most quickly accessible ones.
        1. beeper
          beeper 11 March 2018 16: 06
          +1
          The experienced front-line tankers advised to immediately cut off all pockets and any clinging parts of clothing so as not to interfere with jumping out of the tank. And the engagement ring should not be worn in the service, so that later you do not have to remove it with your finger along with meat and skin.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 11 March 2018 16: 13
            +6
            Quote: pishchak
            Experienced front-line tankers advised to immediately cut off all pockets and any clinging parts of clothing so as not to interfere with jumping out of the tank

            Sleeves, or what?
            Quote: pishchak
            And do not wear the engagement ring in the service, so that later you do not have to remove it from your finger along with meat and skin

            How's that?
            1. beeper
              beeper 11 March 2018 23: 25
              +2
              No fanaticism wink ! Of course, nobody cuts off the sleeves, they mostly cling to the outer pockets, so they were cut off in a combat situation.
              Buttons on the tank jumpsuit and jacket are hidden under the covers, and for Makarov, even when sewing, a corresponding pocket was made in the bosom, so that the gun would not catch.
              The rings of young lieutenants, until one of them is caught by him or flattened on his finger, in a tank it happens quickly yes , well, if it’s tolerable and there is something to cut or have a bite to eat ... by the way, such injuries also occur in the workplace, but there are more opportunities for “fine work with metal”.
            2. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 11 March 2018 23: 29
              +2
              Clinging to some analog hook. When the electrician worked, the monolithic wire energized caught on the ring ......! I don’t wear the field of that breakdan at all.
              1. beeper
                beeper 13 March 2018 20: 58
                +1
                Thank you for a good example and sincerely sympathize! I was talking about that, I myself had "prerequisites" for this, and I had the opportunity to see such a hand with a flattened ring in my training crew, and also with multiple fractures of all fingers, while working out the landing-landing rate .... one moment and the "thing" in the hatch "!
                I made practical conclusions similar to yours.
                hi
        2. Wilderness
          Wilderness 11 March 2018 16: 49
          +2
          Therefore, as soon as a mess (real, and not a parade or training), the army turns into a partisan detachment, dressed in the form of number 8, which seems to hint at the suitability of those who painted, claimed, sewed and accepted. The continuous circle "Skillful hands" begins.
  29. Sedoy
    Sedoy 11 March 2018 15: 37
    +1
    Well, yes ... there is no function to open canned food ...
    "warrior" has long become the word "common" ... :)
    from the word propaganda ... and cheap ...
    especially when you read "news from the fields" ...
    when another commando purchases imported equipment for his grandmas ...
    those. "warrior" for "cannon fodder" ...
    approximately the same as the AK-12 presented before and after the "adoption" ...
    as is customary with us - they adopted a certain “circumcised” option - they say cheap and cheerful ...
    and to hell with it, which is not so convenient, not so equipped and not so functional ...
    the soldier is not a master, he will die without piers ...
  30. Old26
    Old26 11 March 2018 17: 08
    +2
    Quote: Wilderness
    To avoid confusion: to test several samples, identify several that satisfy the price, weight, dimensions, functionality, price and recommend for purchase (as in due time, or rather, until the 17th year, instead of the time sheet “nagan” was recommended “Smith Wesson” ). I don’t mind if the developer would put the knife on the market, lower the price and only then offer the army. There is a demand for them, Lezerman is quite expensive. There is no difference in civilian and military use - this is not an automatic machine.
    As for shoes, this is just my personal experience, specialists from CH can wear shoes even from the skin of the favorite dog of the American president (if necessary).
    There are no gloves in the photo, as if they were advertising a tank without caterpillars.

    Probably could have been. But this is a damned import substitution ... I can’t understand why all of a sudden they started to develop a new multifunctional knife. After all, there was a rather good knife “Minesweeper”, which was similar in design to these from Ratnik. Only the blade was different. They even released a civilian version, called "Professional", but its price was quite high. I don’t remember exactly, but either 6,5, or 7 thousand rubles. There would be "wolves full" (no import substitution), and "sheep safe" (the construction is already 10 years old, no less, that is, all childhood diseases have already been "cured"

    There is still a difference in civilian and military applications. The army MFN still has to fulfill the function of crimping the same fuses. Now I won’t say what exactly the difference is, but my civilian version of the “Werewolf” differs in small (precisely by such details) from what was planned for the troops (or for NAZ, I don’t remember)

    Quote: Sedoy
    from the word propaganda ... and cheap ...
    especially when you read "news from the fields" ...
    when another commando purchases imported equipment for his grandmas ...

    Well, not everything is so bad in this outfit. Something, of course, needs to be developed, not without it, but mostly people don’t particularly complain. And they don’t especially buy imported equipment, at least I haven’t heard about the mass character of such a process.
  31. tractor driver73
    tractor driver73 11 March 2018 20: 22
    +1
    Warrior, this is a big poppycock! There will not be a single company in the troops where there are storage conditions for this equipment for all personnel! And you: knives, knives ...!
  32. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 14 March 2018 23: 19
    +1
    Quote: VOENOBOZ
    (It has long been believed that the people who order, design, and take uniforms and equipment did not wear it, they don’t, and do not plan to wear it.)
    I fully agree with you, but why did you abandon the boots? Boot universal shoes - shod seconds, any cloth footcloth, dump in the water without any problems, protection from the "thorns", and hit the boot. Yes, in the landing, in the Navy it is traditionally, but the infantry is crawling and burrowing. Yes, and outwardly effective looks boots rather than boots.


    Yes you go nafig with boots laughing Did you ask the military? I welcomed Shoigu the first year already with applause for the fact that he canceled his boots, footcloths and hem; and over the years I have never met a man who would say, eh, now he would be kirzachi or file laughing
  33. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 14 March 2018 23: 32
    0
    Quote: Wilderness
    1_Someone is engaged in outright nonsense with these knives. Or even sabotage. For peacetime or for small wars, it is easier and cheaper to recommend civilian samples (lezermans, quizzes or Chinese counterparts) for purchase, even with subsequent monetary compensation, because the sample presented in the article does not go to the market and is not planned (imagine its price!). In the event of a major war, this knife is not needed - an assault rifle, helmet, boots, a scam, a gas mask, a flask - everything, the soldier is ready to defend the Motherland!
    2_What is wrong with goggles? Why are they not worn dressed? Even in Syria, with its dust, dirt, sweat? Judging by the photo for the article with an ordinary helmet, this is inconvenient or even impossible. Here are the special forces in head-covering helmets who wear glasses, and when fastened to an ordinary helmet, no one bothered. In short, some show off, although glasses are a necessary thing.
    3_Something shamefully bypassing the theme of shoes in the "warrior". During his service in the army and police in the rural wilderness he killed a pair of fifteen berets, starting with Soviet monsters on nails and ending with the current army. He concluded - one obscene, fragile, uncomfortable, expensive. Even sneakers from the hardware store or polyurethane galoshes from the market (!!!) are better and more reliable.
    4_Judging from the photo, from the point of view of developers, protective gloves are an unnecessary luxury.
    It has long been believed that people who order, design, and take uniforms and equipment do not wear it, they do not, and do not plan to wear it.



    1. Wrecking is all that is new. For the layman. But the military until recently acquired it all at their own expense.
    2. Well, in principle, it’s not very comfortable, but you can wear it, but you don’t wear it on the camera, because you need to see the faces of the actors in the movie. Special forces have the right to wear what they want. Even a simple double bass from the infantry can walk even in ordinary sunglasses, Will they save him from splinters?
    3.I will greatly disappoint you. For all 15 years of service I haven’t killed a single pair of berets. Usually always new ones are issued when the old one has not worn out. I even now have 4 pairs of breeders, I’m silent about how much I gave to friends from a citizen. 3- You can safely wear it for 5 years, even in extreme conditions. And during this time more than once will give new ones.
    4. As for the gloves, I’ll say straightforwardly, you have never had to crawl. Especially in the desert. And pull the thorns out of your hands, too, from which the wounds on the palms heal for weeks.