Military Review

Barysa trials completed in Kazakhstan

127
The final tests of the Barys multipurpose armored vehicle were conducted in Kazakhstan. This armored vehicle with a wheel version 8х8 is created under the Kazakhstan-South African contract. For these purposes with the South African company Paramount Group joint venture was created Kazakstan Paramount Engineering. Several “Barysovs” have been made on it, which are undergoing the necessary tests.


The manufacturing company publishes the latest data on the technical characteristics of the multipurpose wheeled armored vehicles:
maximum payload - 9 tons, maximum speed - 100 km / h, power reserve (on the highway) - 800 km, protection level 4A / 4B (STANAG 4569).

The armored vehicle is equipped with special anti-mine seats, the design of which reduces the risk of injury to military personnel in the event of a Barys exploding on a mine.

Barys 8x8 has a 7,62-mm machine gun and an 30-mm 2A42 cannon (Shipunov and Gryazev cannon), - from the official release.

Barysa trials completed in Kazakhstan


From the presentation material company Kazakstan Paramount Engineering:
"Barys 8x8" allows you to provide unsurpassed protection from mines, improvised explosive devices, roadside blast-free land mines.


It is known that Turkish electro-optical means are implemented at Barys.

A representative of the South African company in Kazakhstan noted that the tests were also carried out in conditions of extreme temperatures - up to -45 degrees Celsius.

Planned production volumes - up to 200 armored vehicles per year.
Photos used:
http://kpe.com.kz
127 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 10 March 2018 13: 33
    +3
    Barys, so Barys. The Chinese do not care what to ride.
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 10 March 2018 13: 39
      +18
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Barys, so Barys.

      Not Barys, but Baryas. Kazahi na latinicy pereshli.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 10 March 2018 13: 55
        +3
        The final tests of the Barys multipurpose armored vehicle were carried out in Kazakhstan.

        That's what Ata Kazakhs did. Already in Russian they do not spree, only in Latin.
        Quote: Crowe
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Barys, so Barys.

        Not Barys, but Baryas. Kazahi na latinicy pereshli.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 10 March 2018 18: 32
          0
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          The Chinese do not care what to ride.

          I believe China is not involved in this on any side. Kazakhstan and South Africa manufacturers, Turkey and Russia supply components.
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 10 March 2018 20: 14
            0
            Who is talking about Chinese involvement?
            There is simply a "Silk Road", the country of Kazakhstan (the American traffic jam this way) is no longer there.
          2. sedoj
            sedoj 10 March 2018 21: 00
            0
            Quote: Shurik70
            I believe China is not involved in this on any side. Kazakhstan and South Africa manufacturers, Turkey and Russia supply components.

        2. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 11 March 2018 12: 33
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Not "Barys", but "Baryas". Kazahi na latinicy pereshli.

          bar yas - is it a bar UAZ? ilmi loaf UAZ? how can you understand repeat
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 10 March 2018 14: 52
        +1
        Quote: Crowe
        Not "Barys", but "Baryas"

        Cool! In Kazakh, it turns out that the letter "ya" sounds like "s"?
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 10 March 2018 15: 59
          +3
          I immediately read Ford Bayard.
    2. Boribasar
      Boribasar 10 March 2018 14: 31
      +7
      "Barysa trials completed in Kazakhstan"
      The article is an inaccuracy. This is how Barys is tested with another combat module which is manufactured by Kazakhstan Aselsan Engineering, i.e. based on turkish
      It is already possible to supply KAMAZ engines. Uninhabited tower with a 30mm 2A42 cannon and a coaxial PKT machine gun. Powerful optics and a thermal imager that allows you to shoot at night and with poor visibility. It will be possible to load a gun and a machine gun from a capsule. Inside the capsule there are two conditioners and two stand-alone stoves. BTR "Barys 8x8" is still raw for deliveries to the troops. He passed only factory tests. BTR will be finalized and still be tested in the troops. Options will vary depending on customer requirements.
      https://yvision.kz/post/797596
      1. Partyzan
        Partyzan 10 March 2018 14: 39
        +3
        Quote: Boribasar
        The article is an inaccuracy. This is how Barys is tested with another combat module which is manufactured by Kazakhstan Aselsan Engineering, i.e. based on turkish

        there is another combat module
        The South African branch of BAE Systems Corporation has developed and successfully tested the TRT-R30 remotely controlled turret (combat module) for equipping armored vehicles using a 30A2 42-mm automatic gun
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 10 March 2018 14: 43
      +1
      Why South Africa minus 40 Celsius! belay
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 10 March 2018 17: 47
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Why South Africa minus 40 Celsius! belay

        The tests are not for Africa, but for Kazakhstan, and in Kazakhstan there are such temperatures.
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 10 March 2018 19: 18
          +1
          Quote: RUSS

          The tests are not for Africa, but for Kazakhstan, and in Kazakhstan there are such temperatures.

          The temperature is okay, but the protection class 4A for the army armored personnel carrier is, in my opinion, low.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 11 March 2018 12: 13
        +2
        We must hurry with cooperation with South Africa.
        Soon there will be no one to collaborate with. sad . Parliament passed
        the law on confiscation of land from whites. Let's go by Zimbabwe negative .
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 11 March 2018 15: 49
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          . Parliament passed
          the law on confiscation of land from whites.
          kayuk South Africa
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 10 March 2018 15: 28
      0
      It’s not at all like a TIGER ..
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 10 March 2018 17: 48
        0
        Quote: To be or not to be
        It’s not at all like a TIGER ..

        What should? Barys is not a tiger, but a snow leopard (Irbis).
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 11 March 2018 09: 50
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          Barys is not a tiger, but a snow leopard (Irbis).

          Under Soviet rule, the Barys Kazakhs had a leopard (ie, a leopard) - and the snow leopard in Kazakh was just an irbis. But after the sovereignty of the leopard they became "coblan". laughing And the tiger is “zholbarys” (Russian is more familiar with “julbars”) - “wandering leopard” (“zhol” = road)
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 10 March 2018 13: 36
    +3
    Kazakhs are going to frighten anyone ... Are not we poachers? Heh heh .. Or to protect gas and uranium mines? Waste money!
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 14: 01
      +10
      Vitaly, you are as always laughing
      In the subject, not in the subject ... Around, some enemies ... angry all that is plotting against us ... negative
      In fact, there are two news ... One is good, the second is not very. 1) BRICS is working .. 2) A competitor has drawn. wink
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 10 March 2018 14: 38
        +4
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        1) BRICS is working.

        It does not work nifiga ..!
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        2) The competitor drew.

        Kazakhs are not our competitors .....
        (no offense!)))
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 15: 41
          +2
          Yes, no offense, of course laughing
          Well, really, Boomerang reminds ... By the way, on the "boomer" module with a machine gun (in the parade) wink
          Here is 30, but in the photo, it’s generally 57 mm what Since South Africa, it means the climate was taken into account ... Plus, -45 in Kazakhstan, in conditions of strong winds and snowdrifts ... Perhaps, tests in the highlands ... Protection class, normal. Do not know how the price? And what kind of engine? 200 cars a year, very good, for starters hi
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 10 March 2018 16: 03
            +5
            He’s like ... They said at school, it is warm in South Africa, they walk around in loincloths ... And they didn’t talk about the highlands .... Soviet teachers lied!
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 16: 15
              +3
              Highlands in Kazakhstan ... hi
              Itself was on 4-ke, near Alma-Ata ... Not on the path, on the dirt road. And under 3, full of places ...
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 16: 18
                +6
                Quote: sabakina
                Soviet teachers lied!

                The teachers did not lie .. But, as you studied, the geography of Owls. Union, this is a question ... wink
              2. sabakina
                sabakina 10 March 2018 16: 18
                +4
                Stas, what does Kazakhstan have to do with it? I know about him, I'm talking about South Africa.
                1. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 16: 49
                  +2
                  Vyacheslav, I’m talking about the possibility of testing, in almost any climatic conditions ... About the possibility of export, to almost any climate. belt ... Well, okromya, the tropics .. Although, what’s on the coast of South Africa, I honestly don’t taste winked
                  And in Kazakhstan, you can try everything ... hi
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 10 March 2018 18: 57
                    +2
                    Hi Stas! This machine (8 * 8) is designed specifically for KZ, with our money - in South Africa this is not there 4 * 4 and 6 * 6. They suggest switching to KAMAZ components, but these are experimental from imported so far. 30mm modules are made in KZ. They wanted a 57-mm Baikal, but reported that it was not quite ready. By the way, 4 * 4 Arlan is already in the series and enters the army - they even put her abroad, though they don’t tell where. hi
                    1. LiSiCyn
                      LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 19: 30
                      +2
                      Salam alaikum, Dauren !!! hi I knew that you would definitely appear in the feed laughing
                      I am very glad that in Kazakhstan, deprived of the USSR, its military-industrial complex is developing. good
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym 10 March 2018 19: 55
                        +1
                        I would not say that very much. But it seems that all the defense industry factories are modernizing. Recently, a whole ministry was opened (Minister of Defense and Aerospace Industry - MOAP). Let's see what good this will be. There are agreements with UVZ, MiG, Almaz-Antey, etc. - MOAP should implement them.
                        I hope that Baikal with 57mm. a gun will still be purchased for this armored personnel carrier. Initially, the Armed Forces wanted him, and Barys presented at KADEKS (military exhibition in the KZ) with Baikal. But 30mm. a module with a gun (Uralsk) is made by us - apparently they decided to load their own with work. Turkish optics are manufactured in Astana - there a joint venture was opened with them. By the way, there are night optics, sights, etc. manufactured - in my opinion, the Turks from the French received these technologies. hi
                    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 19: 48
                      +1
                      Quote: Kasym
                      in South Africa this is not

                      One of the main innovations at the next International Exhibition of Arms and Military-Technical Equipment Kazakhstan Defense Expo 2 (KADEX-5) held from June 2016 to 2016, 2016 in the capital of Kazakhstan, Astana, was a demonstration by the South African group Paramount Group of a new version of its Mbombe armored vehicle, now with an 8x8 wheel formula and designated as Mbombe 8

                      The Mbombe 8 armored vehicle combines all the latest developments in the field of armored transport technologies and is designed to meet the growing demand for multifunctional, highly mobile, equipped with mine protection, platforms that are able to adapt to changing fighting rules. The armored car was designed and created by specialists of the Paramount Innovation and Design division, which is responsible for the development and production of a wide range of modern armored and mine-fighting vehicles, adopted in many countries of the world.

                      Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Paramount Group and founder of the company, Ivor Ichikovits, said: “This is a significant event for the Paramount Group in the development of the line of armored vehicles that we represent in the world. We are incredibly pleased to present the result of our labors - a high-speed, low-profile long-range armored combat vehicle with the 8x8 formula. Over the past ten years, Paramount Group experts have designed, developed, and launched armored vehicles on the market almost every two years. They provide the whole process of creating technology - from ideas on paper to release from the conveyor.
                      1. LiSiCyn
                        LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 19: 54
                        +1
                        Complete assembly in Kazakhstan ... In South Africa, these do not produce request
                  2. Hiller
                    Hiller 10 March 2018 20: 10
                    0
                    Exactly, even torpedoes ... on Issyk-Kul. Sailors in the mountains - a terrible force wink
              3. Humpty
                Humpty 10 March 2018 16: 46
                +1
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                Perhaps the trials in the highlands ...

                You can also test on Balkhash, on the pontoon.
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                Itself was on 4-ke, near Alma-Ata ..

                Quote: LiSiCyn
                And under 3, full of places ...

                It’s hard to understand your jargon. Right next to Alma-Ata there is even 6A, far-fetched, if you still haven’t reduced the category to real, although someone would do it ... On p. Talgar 4973, according to the popular Kazakh version 5017.
                1. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 17: 38
                  +3
                  Was on Mynzhilki .. And a little higher wink
                  Now I looked, 3100 ... Not the highlands, not .. ???
                  1. Humpty
                    Humpty 10 March 2018 18: 00
                    +1
                    Quote: LiSiCyn
                    3100 ... Not highlands, not .. ???

                    Already it is. You can drive to the Ozerny pass (about 3500). Previously, the popular walking route to Issyk-Kul passed through it. The children of the two presidents parted with a dirty weld, after following this path it was considered a serious crime.
                2. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 17: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: Humpty
                  It’s hard to understand your jargon. Right next to Alma-Ata, even 6A is

                  We are not talking about climbing ... We are talking about the roads on which this armored personnel carrier can ride ..
                  Although Kyrgyzstan, of course it will be cooler ... It's a pity, except for the mountains, almost nothing. lol
                  hi
                  1. Humpty
                    Humpty 10 March 2018 18: 05
                    +2
                    Quote: LiSiCyn
                    It's a pity, except for the mountains, there is almost nothing.

                    But nowhere in the former Union there are none. But Tajikistan is not bad in this regard either. There, by the way, a 4600 automobile transshipment is available. hi
                    1. LiSiCyn
                      LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 19: 16
                      +2
                      Quote: Humpty
                      Tajikistan is not bad in this regard either.

                      Why not...? Moreover, Kazakhstan had a battalion there, like it was? From the CSTO ...
                      But we are talking about export opportunities in different climatic conditions. And Kazakhstan, in this regard, is one of the best testing sites ... yes
                      And the mountains in Kyrgyzstan, Agony good I know how anxious you are about this topic. lol
                      Brush laughing
                3. sabakina
                  sabakina 10 March 2018 17: 59
                  +4
                  Guys, I thought that I was an alien ....
                  1. LiSiCyn
                    LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 18: 52
                    +1
                    Quote: sabakina
                    Guys, I thought that I was an alien ....

                    To be honest, I do not understand ??
            2. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 10 March 2018 20: 10
              +1
              Quote: sabakina
              He’s like ... They said at school, it is warm in South Africa, they walk around in loincloths ... And they didn’t talk about the highlands .... Soviet teachers lied!

              Well, before the teachers about South Africa, all received knowledge from the book "Captain Tear Off-Head". Although there is about (-18) gr. also was not.
            3. Weyland
              Weyland 11 March 2018 10: 22
              0
              Quote: sabakina
              They said at school that it’s warm in South Africa, they walk in loincloths ..

              It depends. in the Kalahari desert in July (there it is winter) during the day plus 40 - but at night minus 10
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 10 March 2018 16: 11
            +2
            But who will fight in forty-five degrees below zero? belay Unless in Anthracid hunt for penguins. laughing
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 16: 51
              +2
              Quote: siberalt
              But who will fight in forty-five degrees below zero?

              We.... soldier
              Arctic brigades, just creating ?? And the technique for them ...
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 11 March 2018 10: 22
              0
              Quote: siberalt
              But who will fight in forty-five degrees below zero?

              Have you heard of the Finnish War of 1939-40? (she's Winter)
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 10 March 2018 17: 52
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Kazakhs are going to scare

      So it didn’t scare? Go our boomerang scarecrow too?
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Heh heh .. Or to protect gas and uranium mines?

      To protect the country and primarily from the Islamists from the south.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Waste money!

      Damn what kind of economist in your face Kazakhstan lost laughing , more precisely, it’s a pity that you are not at their consultants.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 March 2018 13: 38
    +5
    Well, good luck. And what kind of gun in the tower? 30 mm is not like. Isn't it 57?
    1. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 10 March 2018 13: 49
      0
      Our old beloved 2A42
    2. Karakurt
      Karakurt 10 March 2018 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, good luck. And what kind of gun in the tower? 30 mm is not like. Isn't it 57?

      Also such a thought crept in, it’s already sick like au-220m
    3. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 14: 04
      +1
      So it seemed to me, 57 mm ... Or did they blind such a casing so that the trunk would not walk ??
    4. Kurare
      Kurare 10 March 2018 14: 26
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      30 mm is not like. Isn't it 57?

      Yes, here on the Barys photo with the Baikal module.
      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/
      ec / Army2016-215.jpg
    5. san4es
      san4es 10 March 2018 14: 32
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      ... Isn't it 57?

      ... She ... As part of the BM "Baikal"

      However, in the final version, as follows from the message "Kazakhstan Engineering", preference was made for products of national production. One of the reasons, apparently, is the fact that Kazakhstan has launched the production of 30-mm shells for the 2A42 cannon.


      According to the press service of NK Kazakhstan Engineering JSC, a stable uninhabited module with a 30 mm 2A42 automatic cannon and a coaxial 7,62 mm PKT machine gun was installed on the BKM. The product was created by the KAE Kazakhstan electronic defense optical products factory "together with the Turkish company Aselsan
      hi
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 15: 51
        +3
        Rough ... Turkish roots are guessed ... In vain, they abandoned the Baikal ... 30 mm is already not enough, if only in the "spark" ... wink
  4. Proton
    Proton 10 March 2018 13: 38
    +4
    Either French, or an English armored car recalls, it’s not in vain that they did with South Africa wassat
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 14: 19
      +4
      this is purely South African armored car Mbombe 8

      Mbombe 8

      Barys
      1. Varna
        Varna 10 March 2018 15: 44
        +2
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        this is purely South African armored car Mbombe 8

        Mbombe 8

        Barys

        )) One to one to the last rivet))
  5. flicker
    flicker 10 March 2018 13: 43
    +4
    tests were carried out including at extreme temperatures - up to -45 degrees Celsius.
    Are the Norwegians going to attack? laughing
    1. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 13: 52
      +4
      No.. request But it shows the possibility of exporting to almost all climatic zones ... Very Boomerang reminds ... Competitor however wink
      1. flicker
        flicker 10 March 2018 13: 59
        +1
        export opportunity
        this niche is extremely difficult to occupy.
      2. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 10 March 2018 14: 02
        +8
        Are the Norwegians going to attack?
        Believe me, Norway in the Kazakh steppe (especially in the north) will not last long ..
        1. flicker
          flicker 10 March 2018 14: 17
          +3
          I know there are snowstorms and cold like in Siberia (in the north of Kazakhstan)
      3. san4es
        san4es 10 March 2018 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        ... but it shows the possibility of export ..... competitor however wink

        ... That they can:
        Kazakhstan supplied armament to Azerbaijan - self-propelled guns Dana and Semser within TurkPA



        SPG Semser
    2. Babalaykin
      Babalaykin 10 March 2018 14: 22
      +2
      If something happens in the north of KZ almost every year, almost -45
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 10 March 2018 16: 48
      +1
      There is a golf stream in Norway. There are practically no frosts. winked It turns out that the climate only Russia.
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 10 March 2018 17: 08
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        It turns out that the climate only Russia.

        Canada, Alaska, Chile, Peru, Argentina, Bolivia, All of Africa and Bl. East ... This is so offhand. wink
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 10 March 2018 18: 05
          +3
          Offhand, it is warm in South Africa, Limpopopo and Barmaley.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 10 March 2018 17: 56
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        There is a golf stream in Norway. There are practically no frosts. winked It turns out that the climate only Russia.

        In the central and northern regions of Norway, wintering begins early. Low temperatures have been observed since mid-November. Due to this, most of the country is covered with soft white snow. Only coastal areas retain relative heat.

        The harshest winters fall to the northern part of Norway. The temperature can sometimes reach -40 ° C, and -20 ° C is considered a familiar indicator in the dark.
      3. k_ply
        k_ply 11 March 2018 08: 30
        +1
        With the Gulf Stream, Iceland was more fortunate than Norway.
    4. Weyland
      Weyland 11 March 2018 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: flicker
      Are the Norwegians going to attack?

      The coldest capital of the world is Ulaanbaatar. On the 2nd place - Astanaon the 3rd - Moscow. And Norway nervously smokes on the sidelines! They don’t even freeze the sea - and I had to visit Kazakhstani Altai minus 52
  6. Altona
    Altona 10 March 2018 13: 49
    +2
    Quote: Crowe
    Not Barys, but Baryas. Kazahi na latinicy pereshli.

    --------------------------
    Dazhe navernoe "Barahlyis". Potomu chto barahlo ...
  7. san4es
    san4es 10 March 2018 13: 53
    +2
    Kazakstan Paramount Engineering. It produced several "Barys", which pass the necessary tests.
    Aug 2017 year
  8. MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 10 March 2018 13: 57
    +3
    I saw this pepelats at the ARMY 2016 with the Russian 57-mm combat module, which they subsequently refused.
    Well, very tall, you can’t miss it.
  9. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 13: 58
    +2
    Final tests of the Barys multi-purpose armored vehicle were carried out in Kazakhstan
    what to experience, screwdriver assembly
  10. groks
    groks 10 March 2018 14: 00
    +4
    Yes well done Kazakhs. We did not wait until our arms oligarchs spread out on our fingers, which we have no analogues. Made their blacks. Do not hesitate to take an excellent gun GS. And our army has a bolt. But Dimon said hold on.
    1. MKPU-115
      MKPU-115 10 March 2018 14: 19
      +2
      Quote: groks
      Yes well done Kazakhs. We did not wait until our arms oligarchs spread out on our fingers, which we have no analogues. Made their blacks. Do not hesitate to take an excellent gun GS. And our army has a bolt. But Dimon said hold on.

      They did not hesitate to take everything else and collect this car on their knees.
      And where does the nedimon?
      1. groks
        groks 10 March 2018 15: 47
        0
        Despite the fact that our army has nothing to buy any armored vehicles for.
        1. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 10 March 2018 15: 57
          +3
          how do you know what and how can buy or not buy the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation:? to be honest, they don’t give information for the military couch in the defense ministry they prefer to rearm with quiet glanders
          1. groks
            groks 10 March 2018 16: 06
            +2
            To buy something, you must at least order it. Orders for components - at the level ... but at no level. Apparently, experimental batches are not produced. So everything is perfectly visible from the sofa. If the sofa is at the appropriate enterprise.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 16: 38
              +2
              Quote: groks
              Orders for components - at the level ... but at no level. Apparently, experimental batches are not produced. So everything is perfectly visible from the sofa. If the sofa is at the appropriate enterprise.

              I think that it’s not where you write, otherwise you would think what you can write and what not
            2. Non liberoid Russian
              Non liberoid Russian 10 March 2018 17: 07
              0
              in short it’s clear, the next yap ... if not then the facts in the studio please in proof of your words ... otherwise they divorced here - they fart, and then they’re delirious
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 17: 34
              0
              Quote: groks
              If the sofa is at the appropriate enterprise.

              sound the name of the enterprise, to a stuccan in the first department, so that they would follow the bazaar of employees
              1. groks
                groks 10 March 2018 17: 57
                0
                Guys, you can out of parallel what kind of reality. But now we have almost the entire production of defense components - private. No contracts for public defense are secret. So I can speak as much as I like.
                I advise you to understand the functions of the "first department", so as not to make people laugh.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 18: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: groks
                  So I can speak as much as I like.

                  Oh well
                  Oksana Sevastidi thought the same way you did, however, the Krasnodar Regional Court sentenced Russian woman Oksana Sevastidi to seven years in prison on charges of treason. A criminal case was brought against her after, in 2008, while in Sochi, she wrote to a friend in Georgia several SMS, in which she said that she saw a train heading towards Abkhazia with military equipment

                  you can be private at least a hundred times and amuse yourself with the thought that you can carry in the public space everything that comes to your mind but ...
                  State secrets are:
                  1) information in the military field:

                  about volumes, about plans (tasks) of the state defense order, on the production and supply (in monetary or physical terms) of weapons, military equipment and other defense products, on the availability and expansion of capacities for their production, on the ties of cooperation enterprises, on the developers or manufacturers of these weapons, military equipment and other defense products ...
                  NOT KNOWLEDGE OF THE LAW ...
                  1. groks
                    groks 10 March 2018 19: 07
                    0
                    That is why I will not answer some questions.
                    GOZ, by the way, goes only through the programs of a likely adversary. Only and exclusively.
                    But perhaps our president can be planted. Already divulged so divulged!
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 19: 49
                      0
                      Quote: groks
                      That's why I will not answer some questions

                      that's why think before you write
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 19: 05
                  0
                  Quote: groks
                  I advise you to understand the functions of the "first department", so as not to make people laugh.

                  I think that they and your talk will be sewn to production
                  1. groks
                    groks 10 March 2018 19: 10
                    0
                    This is not their function at all. And they never were them. Therefore, I advise you to still ask.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 19: 50
                      0
                      I know perfectly well what the first department is doing, but believe me, if they throw info on an “external” order, they’ll take it in a row with pleasure
                      1. groks
                        groks 11 March 2018 07: 40
                        0
                        What nonsense? What kind of third-party? Left tanks, planes?
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 10 March 2018 17: 58
        0
        Quote: MKPU-115
        And where does the nedimon?

        He is a lightning rod, therefore he always laughing
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 10 March 2018 14: 29
      0
      Quote: groks
      But Dimon said hold on.

      And he - Dimon?
      1. groks
        groks 10 March 2018 15: 49
        0
        Everyone who advises to stay, while being an official, is not like dimons, but shit.
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 11 March 2018 10: 29
        0
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        And he - Dimon?

        Why not? Respect (or disrespect) a person, not a position! Even the enemy of another is despised, and the other is respected!
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 15: 11
      0
      Quote: groks
      We didn’t wait until our arms oligarchs spread out on their fingers

      Yes, what have ours to do with it, an ordinary dough cut with the withdrawal thereof for cardon
  11. K-50
    K-50 10 March 2018 14: 03
    +1
    In the picture, the gun is similar to the AU-220m, no? what
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 10 March 2018 14: 09
    +4
    For good or bad, I can’t judge by myself, because I didn’t feel it, but it’s a bit high ... but all Western cars sin, and many of ours are for the sake of comfort .. Well, if the engine is not from the "former" so to speak .. that will be very imposed for the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan, and the engine is the heart of the machine - “tear it off and it will die” smile
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 15: 13
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      it will be very imposed for the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan

      and not the fact that this will go to the troops, the option of a solemn acceptance of one two cars with the participation of the pope and the further curtailment of production is possible, this was already in the history of the Republic of Kazakhstan
    2. Falcond
      Falcond 10 March 2018 18: 20
      0
      but in my opinion it’s a little high ... but all Western cars sin this


      And our domestic Boomerang, just showing up above the grass!)
  13. Dormidont
    Dormidont 10 March 2018 14: 10
    +2
    Unrivaled protection ... Kazakhstan-South Africa ... Mdyayayaya ... It depends on what to compare. If with the slag of a gloomy Svidomo genius, then it may very well be
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 10 March 2018 18: 21
      +2
      And you do not accidentally write from UVZ foundry ????
  14. sir_obs
    sir_obs 10 March 2018 14: 15
    0
    Barys, you're wrong
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 10 March 2018 14: 27
    +2
    nothing special, an ordinary light tank on wheels the last century, but now it’s Kazakh ...
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 10 March 2018 17: 59
      0
      Quote: Volka
      nothing special, an ordinary light tank on wheels the last century,

      Last century? Strange ... but what about ours on the basis of the Boomerang, they are ready to create a wheeled tank! Why are we so behind?
    2. Falcond
      Falcond 10 March 2018 18: 22
      +1
      Where did you see the tank here? Caliber beguiled ??
  16. andrson
    andrson 10 March 2018 14: 53
    0
    For Africa, just right.
  17. sabakina
    sabakina 10 March 2018 15: 53
    +4
    Dear administration, I certainly understand everything, but in this case I could not resist! from humor
    1. thinker
      thinker 10 March 2018 17: 17
      0
      Congratulations on the adware virus. yes

      How to remove an adware virus from a computer?
      http://virtmachine.ru/remove-adware.html
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 10 March 2018 18: 11
        +3
        Yes, I myself am the same virus ... Two times tested for alcohol ... 0.00
  18. Naughty
    Naughty 10 March 2018 16: 49
    0
    What is there in Kazakh Brysya? or African? Guns Russian equipment Turkish Engine probably Chinese Wheels too))))) Brushes probably for paint from Africa A bucket from Kazakhstan)))) What else could there be))))
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 10 March 2018 18: 01
      0
      Quote: Vzdrincher
      What is there in Kazakh Brysya? or African? Guns Russian equipment Turkish Engine probably Chinese Wheels too))))) Brushes probably for paint from Africa A bucket from Kazakhstan)))) What else could there be))))

      The key word is "probably", and a complete lack of understanding of the topic.
    2. Falcond
      Falcond 10 March 2018 18: 24
      +1
      Crew for example
    3. Boribasar
      Boribasar 10 March 2018 19: 39
      +3
      Quote: Vzdrincher
      What is there in Kazakh Brysya? or African? Guns Russian equipment Turkish Engine probably Chinese Wheels too))))) Brushes probably for paint from Africa A bucket from Kazakhstan)))
      As if repeat
      Reflecting on the degradation of domestic automotive industry and the transition from full-fledged production to screwdriver assembly of imported components at the leader of the Russian cargo automobile industry Kamase, which is also the largest defense company producing cargo, special vehicles and armored combat vehicles for the RF Armed Forces, the confidence of a fairly large group of blog readers that "for the army, everything is not so, there is only domestic."
      All, in fact, the automotive part western production: tires - Michelin , engine - Cumminsbox Allison, Israeli booking, bridges also imported.
      http://military-informant.com/analytic/analiz-dol
      i-inostrannyih-komplektuyushhih-v-sovremennoy-bro
      netehniki-kamaz.html
  19. senima56
    senima56 10 March 2018 16: 53
    +1
    “A 7,62 mm machine gun and a 30 mm gun ...” And in the photo there is a Baikal module with a 57 mm gun! They write about one thing, another in the photo! And then gentlemen, the journalists are surprised: “Why do not they love us ?!” Because you're lying! You even turn the interview from white to black for the sake of your own minute “glory”!
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 10 March 2018 18: 25
      +1
      Do not dust, read above ... it is painted with what modules they tried on it!
  20. MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 10 March 2018 18: 12
    0
    Quote: groks
    Despite the fact that our army has nothing to buy any armored vehicles for.

    These are just not needed.
  21. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 20: 19
    0
    LiSiCyn,
    Quote: LiSiCyn
    Complete assembly in Kazakhstan ... In South Africa, these do not produce

    whose development? !!!!!!
  22. Naughty
    Naughty 10 March 2018 20: 37
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Vzdrincher
    What is there in Kazakh Brysya? or African? Guns Russian equipment Turkish Engine probably Chinese Wheels too))))) Brushes probably for paint from Africa A bucket from Kazakhstan)))) What else could there be))))

    The key word is "probably", and a complete lack of understanding of the topic.



    Aha)))) And 20 years of service in Kazakhstan)))
  23. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 10 March 2018 20: 47
    0
    LiSiCyn,
    Quote: LiSiCyn
    Complete assembly in Kazakhstan ... In South Africa, these do not produce

    I understand correctly that if a BMW is assembled in the Kaliningrad region, now is it a Russian car? laughing
  24. k_ply
    k_ply 10 March 2018 23: 14
    +2
    The BM Barys project is implemented purely in the interests of the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan and its possible export supplies.
    Quote: Kasym
    ... in South Africa this is not there 4 * 4 and 6 * 6.

    The South African army itself has 238 completely fresh BM Badger (8x8) - a modified Finnish Patria AMV. The main armament complex of the Republic of South Africa includes a two-seat turret LCT-30 with a 30x173-mm gun EMAK-30 (210 rounds) and a 7,62 mm coaxial machine gun (800 rounds), as well as the same turret with a 60 mm breech-loading mortar or 4 PU ATGM ZT-3 Ingwe (200-5000 m.).

    There is an export RG-41 (8x8) with a TRT DBM optionally equipped with automatic guns of 20-30 mm caliber, or with an MST turret for 4 ATGMs.

  25. Evil 55
    Evil 55 11 March 2018 06: 19
    0
    And in the photo there is definitely a module with 2A42 .. Something clearly does not look like ..
  26. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 11 March 2018 08: 53
    0
    groks,
    Quote: groks
    What nonsense? What kind of third-party? Left tanks, planes?

    not only that the language without bones also still does not understand the meaning of the read
  27. Graz
    Graz 11 March 2018 09: 56
    0
    it just seems to me that this car will be more expensive than our new designs in the end
  28. Weyland
    Weyland 11 March 2018 10: 34
    +1
    If for some reason the Kazakhs write the word “leopard” with the letter “s”, it is not at all necessary to write it when transliterating into Russian - as it is practically not pronounced, the word sounds the same as in Russian!
  29. uav80
    uav80 12 March 2018 07: 36
    +2
    Recognized music center in the cabin, it's a pity only the wallpaper from the drywall is already peeling off ...

  30. Ilya_Nsk
    Ilya_Nsk 13 March 2018 09: 21
    0
    I think, not "electro-optical", electron-optical means.
    the professionalism of journalists is falling ..