Putin - NBC: Why do you think that after me the head of state will be the destroyer?

NBC continues to publish fragments of interviews with Russian President Vladimir Putin. In one of the fragments, it was about the relationship between the current president of the Russian Federation and the opposition, and about who will take the chair of the head of state in due time.

According to Vladimir Putin, for him it does not matter in principle whether a person considers himself to be an oppositionist or not, the main thing is that his actions should be aimed at building for the good of Russia. The President of the Russian Federation noted that he was ready to conduct a dialogue with such people.

A question from an American journalist, Magin Kelly:

Are you not afraid that a person who comes to power after you will destroy everything that you managed to do during your presidency?

According to the president, he doesn’t understand where the opinion is that the next head of state can be "the destroyer of what has been created."

Vladimir Putin:

I heard a lot of nonsense about this. Why do you think that those people who will come to power after me will want to destroy? Perhaps, on the contrary, it will be people who will make every effort to make Russia stronger, to make the country comfortable for people of all generations to live.

In the same interview, Vladimir Putin commented on the situation in Syria. The President of Russia told American TV viewers that all reports of alleged use of chemical weapons are fakes.

Comments

[oleg-gr]

Provocations in the Western press are not very successful. And I want to influence the results of the presidential elections in the Russian Federation.

[hrych]

They are predictable, but he is not.

[Stas157]

Putin: Why do you think that those people who come to power after me will want to destroy? Maybe, on the contrary, it will be people who will do their best to make Russia stronger, to make the country for comfortable living for people of all generations.

I would very much like to hope for that! For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

to be comfortable with EVERYTHING not just oligarchs

But the oligarchs-too ???
Baba Yaga vs (c)

Quote: Stas157

For a man like G to come ...

Ufff ... and again g ...
Glory to the Almighty, in a week this whole booth will end

[Stas157]

Quote: Golovan Jack

But the oligarchs-too ???

Yes. On a universal basis! So that the income difference is not millions of times between the poorest and the richest, as is the case under Mr. Putin.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Golovan Jack

But the oligarchs-too ???

Yes. On a universal basis!

Then it will not be Baba Yaga against you, but alligarchs so beloved by you

Quote: Stas157

how does this happen under mr Putin

Be scared.
Continue better advertising G., you have one week left.

[Tatyana]

According to the president, he doesn’t understand where the opinion is that the next head of state can be "the destroyer of what has been created."

Well, if we compare the Constitutions of the states of our country - the USSR and the Russian Federation - in different years, then this statement of GDP does not inspire Russians at all with optimism about the historically possible collapse of our country.

[Tatyana]

And if you recall that the collapse of the USSR was preceded by the collapse of the banking system of the USSR, then the optimism of GDP in the eyes of Russians will be even more diminished. Namely.

After ratification of the Bialowieza Accords, Russia turned into a colony of a unipolar world led by Washington. One of the most important instruments for managing Russia as a colony was the new credit and financial system (CFS) of Russia.
On 20 of December 1991, the State Bank of the USSR was abolished. All assets, liabilities and property of the USSR State Bank on the territory of the RSFSR were transferred to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. A few months later, the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia) was renamed the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia).
The very first version of the law "On the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Bank of Russia)" was adopted on December 2 of 1990 of the year, after Yeltsin B.N. by a huge margin, he won the election and became the first president of Russia, and after six months of his presidency he signed Federal Law No. 1990-02.12.1990 of 394. The law was modified and supplemented, but in general its essence was preserved.
The betrayal of the national sovereignty of the Russian Federation in the field of finance was laid down and reinforced in its very Constitution of the Russian Federation of December 12 1993, which was compiled under the EBN under the patronage of Washington.
Officially, the authors of this colonial Constitution of the Russian Federation from the 1993 of the year were: Sergei Shakhrai, Anatoly Sobchak, Sergey Sergeyevich Alekseev and the Constitutional Meeting of the Russian Federation.
The Constitution of the Russian Federation from 1993 of the year only consolidated the colonial position of the Russian Federation in this matter.
As a result, we have colonial legislation in the country, which, it seems, is impossible under comprador power to abolish in any way peacefully.

[Tatyana]

When they talk now about the criminal activities of the Central Bank of Russia with regard to the same financing of the military-industrial complex and with respect to compliance with its national sovereignty, all this follows from Russian legislation. For example.
First of all, from the Constitution of the Russian Federation, Article 15, paragraph 4. Etc.

Constitution of the Russian Federation Article 15:
4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply.

Those. if the Central Bank in Russia is offended by a bad Government, it goes somewhere “beyond the hill” and begins to complain to the international court there. And the international court of law takes precedence over our Russian one.

Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Article 7:
The Bank of Russia, on matters within its competence by this Federal Law and other federal laws, issues normative acts binding on federal bodies of state power, bodies of state power of subjects of the Russian Federation and local authorities, all legal entities and individuals in the form of instructions, provisions and instructions .
The rules for preparing regulations of the Bank of Russia are established by the Bank of Russia independently.

If the Central Bank decides to collect all metal money from all over the country, it can issue such a decree and everyone will be required to comply with it.

Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Article 21:
The Bank of Russia and the Government of the Russian Federation inform each other about proposed actions of national importance, coordinate their policies, and hold regular mutual consultations.

Reminds an agreement between two countries.

The Bank of Russia advises the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation on a schedule for the issue of government securities of the Russian Federation and repayment of the state debt of the Russian Federation, taking into account their impact on the state of the banking system of the Russian Federation and the priorities of a unified monetary policy.

As we see, the Central Bank does not belong to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, and he only advises him.

Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Article 22:
The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the deficit of the federal budget, the Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to finance the deficits of budgets of state extra-budgetary funds, budgets of constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local budgets.

If the state does not have enough money, it cannot take it from the Central Bank. The state may go bankrupt when the basements of the Central Bank are clogged with gold and currency.
But the law does not say that the Central Bank cannot lend to other states.

Federal Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Article 23:
Federal budget funds and funds of state extra-budgetary funds are stored in the Bank of Russia, unless otherwise provided by federal laws.

The Central Bank is independent, not liable for obligations, but all state money goes to it.

The powers of the Bank of Russia to service the state debt of the Russian Federation are determined by federal laws. The Bank of Russia and the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, if necessary, conclude agreements on conducting the above operations on behalf of the Government of the Russian Federation.

If the Government of the Russian Federation wants to do something in the financial sector, but it itself cannot. Because the money is all in the Central Bank, and he disposes of it. The government asks the Ministry of Finance to conclude an agreement with the Central Bank and only when they agree do they begin to work together. And if you don’t agree?

[sogdy]

Tanyusha, I would like to note the incorrectness of comparing the executive branch with the executive branch of the legislative branch.
I did not read many letters, because the original message is incorrect.

[Tatyana]

Quote: sogdy

Tanyusha, I would like to note the incorrectness of comparing the executive branch with the executive branch of the legislative branch.
I did not read many letters, because the original message is incorrect.

Your comment in this case is incorrect!
I do not have this here in the text!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Tatiana

Well, if you compare the Constitution of our country ....

"The law that draws ...."
V.V. Putin did not change the Constitution. In fact, the country has a one-party system, the elections of the same governors turned into appointments, the elections of mayors turned into two-stage ones, among the deputies there were completely replacements, the same presidency has changed ..... And what is the letter of the Basic Law?

Quote: friend of beasts

When a bet is placed on one person, a lot depends on his personal qualities. Destroyer in such a situation sooner or later appears. This has happened more than once in the history of Russia. Unlike the USSR or the United States, we do not have a state ideology, there are no basic principles on which the state is built. Unless "fill your pockets while you can." We now have all the wisdom coming from the leader, even decisions at the local level are made after appeals to the president. And such a situation now exists in many former republics. What will happen, for example, with countries when Lukashenko or Nazarbayev leave?

I was also not convinced by the President’s words about the fact that there will be no new Gorbachev, Yeltsin or Nikolai II .... In the history of Russia there are plenty of examples "from the time of those old" appearance thereof.

Quote: Golovan Jack

Continue better advertising G., you have one week left.

Unhappy! But how to delve into the dirty linen of Grudinin? But, there is a chance to delve into the underside of Putin. Or weak?
After all, you see, it’s not a matter of a specific Grudinin or Putin’s cowards.

[DEDPIHTO]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Continue better advertising G., you have one week left.

That's for sure, we don’t keep up to date

[CARLSON]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Golovan Jack

But the oligarchs-too ???

Yes. On a universal basis! So that the income difference is not millions of times between the poorest and the richest, as is the case under Mr. Putin.

Another variation on the theme "Take everything and share." So no one will simply share his own at all. You want the revolution of equality (dignity), then you’re to your neighbors, they muddied her for 4 years, s / n 10000 euros, pensions of 1000 euros, like everyone equally, now everything is fine with them, one, the last, they eat up everyone without salt. True, the oligarchs became smaller, but those who remained now much richer

[Stas157]

Quote: CARLSON

Another variation on the theme "Take everything and share." So no one will simply share his own at all.

Lenin and Stalin took so simply and divided! And they brought an agrarian country with a disenfranchised and illiterate population to the forefront! Russia, as it was during the USSR, has never been a superpower before.

[Alexander Ra]

But do not know about whom the Bible says - "holding"?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Stas157

And they brought an agricultural country with disenfranchised and illiterate people to the forefront

And then the top of the system they created divided everything again.

Quote: Stas157

Russia, as it was during the USSR, has never been a superpower before

Sure?

[Stas157]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Stas157
Russia, as it was during the USSR, has never been a superpower before

Sure?

So you give an example if you know more than me! Russia has never been the first country in the world simultaneously - in economics, in science, in sports, in art, in military affairs, as it was during the USSR. Ordinary people, before that, never had the opportunities and prospects that the Soviet country gave them.
Today we again rolled back and live in a society with unequal opportunities. But at the same time, as in the good old days, the dark people rejoice! A good half of the electorate, the king of the priest, a loyal defender of the oligarchs, are in their arms!

[Dart2027]

Quote: Stas157

Russia has never been the first country in the world, at the same time

Not a single country in the world was the first at the same time - in the economy, in science, in sports, in art, in military affairs, including the USSR.

Quote: Stas157

Today we again rolled back and live in a society with unequal opportunities.

Create a humanity that can live with equal opportunities. Who's stopping something?

[sogdy]

Quote: Stas157

So you give an example if you know more than me!

Stasya, are you really Russian? This is an artificial literary development, taken as tracing paper from the American version. Divorce eared sucker.
And who needs your deadlock bazaar?

[11 black]

Quote: Stas157

Lenin and Stalin took so simply and divided! And they brought an agrarian country with a disenfranchised and illiterate population to the forefront! Russia, as it was during the USSR, has never been a superpower before.

Well, you are bent - I disagree with each letter!
Under Peter 1, for example, no decision was made in Europe without the consent of Russia.
As for the industrial revolution in the USSR - there is a wonderful article about exactly how Lenin and Stalin carried it out - called "Hurray, they have depression," if anyone is interested, this is a very informative article.

[Sverdlov]

Son of Carl, calm down. Do not select and divide, but return stolen to state administration. To put control of law on officials of managers. Deny pumping money over a hill. Transplant 90% of judges and prosecutors so that the rest are afraid and comply with the laws of the country in which they live.

[Herman 4223]

I do not agree, the state is also the owner, and not always good. The official is sitting on the fifth point, he does not care how his company develops, he is on a salary. But with taxes we have trouble, they are huge. In addition to the 13% that is deducted from the salary, for example, there is also a contribution equal to 30% of the salary of the employee that the employer pays, and this is not the last tax either. I would like this tax reform, this could give a boost to development.

[onix757]

Quote: Herman 4223

I do not agree, the state is also the owner, and not always good. The official sits on the fifth point, he does not care how his enterprise develops, he is on salary

This is if the official does not require anything. Impunity breeds impunity. Who is a private trader in the Russian Federation, the one who bankrupts enterprises and withdraws capital abroad. Its effectiveness lies solely in personal enrichment.

[Herman 4223]

The one who bankrupts the enterprise is a thief or, and he happens to be a private trader. There are those who, on the contrary, discover something, create small (to the best of their abilities) industries where people work and don’t take money abroad. I'm talking about these people. And who will demand from the official ?, his godfather who put him there? it will not care if it’s flowers, most likely it will also steal, and it will move the same ones. I’m not saying that it is necessary to make an easy life for traders who don’t produce anything, but they shove Chinese goods or oligarchs. Everything needs to be done deliberately. And for taxes it's true.

[Tatyana]

Herman 4223
I do not agree, the state is also the owner, and not always good. The official is sitting on the fifth point, he does not care how his company develops, he is on salary.

Under Stalin, this was not the case. Each official was asked about the positive results of his work, and he answered for them with his head or dismissal.
It was Khrushchev who immediately came to power after the death of Stalin and abolished this administrative and criminal responsibility from officials. The top of the state immediately began under Khrushchev's parasitic degeneration in the country in its favor - because of its bureaucratic irresponsibility to the laws of the country and its people.

[japs]

Listen, Herman, there is no need for "huge taxes" and "beggarly entrepreneurs."
We hear these songs all the time. Pauper millers and pauper Chubais ...
Thieves and corrupt officials, thieves and nepotism. Mediocrity officials from the elite family clans, judges and prosecutors in law.
Laws are not enforced or are enforced in the "part concerning" robbing people. That's where our problems are ...

[askort154]

Sverdlov ....Carl's son, calm down. Do not select and divide, but return stolen to state administration. Bring control of law to officials of managers. Deny pumping money over a hill. Transplant 90% of judges and prosecutors so that the rest are afraid and abide by the laws of the country in which they live.

What, your siu was blown away ?! Now seduce on the "brisket".
Your slogans are sore. Try working, not whining with the keys.

[Sverdlov]

Dumb ascot, I worked as an engineer, starting with a locksmith and a turner.
Do you know why an armata gun can shoot? Because my father invented the extraction mechanism (there is evidence of the invention ... Secret :)

[mikh-korsakov]

I will allow myself to introduce experts into the eternal debate about how to make Russia better than their five cents regarding an interview with an American journalist, which is exactly what the article under discussion is devoted to. I occasionally listened to Putin's interview with an American correspondent. On the whole, the impression remained strong, although in some places, according to the texture of the subject, Putin lied. Nevertheless, Putin left the American, although the American in the interview relied on the whole stream of lies about us fabricated by Western media. I’m sure that in the West, cool bosses didn’t like the interview, so we should expect a message on some rummaged website that, according to unnamed Kremlin sources, during the interview, Putin HAD a correspondent, stroking her knee and making obscene offers. The next day, this news will sound from each iron, which will nullify the entire effect of the interview.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

And, that is, it suited you as in the 90s, "they all took away about divided"? You are probably one of those who turned out to be in the stake then?

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: CARLSON

Another variation on the theme "Take everything and share." So no one just like that his will not be divided into all.

nobody will share your apartment, which actually doesn’t belong to you, but it’s necessary to take the stolen strategic sectors from the gang of coop lake!

[CARLSON]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Quote: CARLSON

Another variation on the theme "Take everything and share." So no one just like that his will not be divided into all.

nobody will share your apartment, which actually doesn’t belong to you, but it’s necessary to take the stolen strategic sectors from the gang of coop lake!

And who will take it? As I understand it, you took this honorable mission to your comrades. Well, they took it away, and then what you will do, again print vouchers so that everyone would evenly share each barrel of oil and a cubic meter of gas by family name. Once in the beginning of 90, they already shared it so that either you are so brilliant that you manage one country and all are guaranteed to share everything honestly, including my apartment, which, judging by your comment, you have already planned to take away from me, without sharing.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: CARLSON

Once in the beginning of 90, they already shared it so that in the end, or you are so brilliant that one country will be ruled

In addition to your mental state, I have one question, what will you do if Vova dies tomorrow, and bequeaths to you all the time before his death?

[CARLSON]

Quote: Anti-Corr.

Quote: CARLSON

Once in the beginning of 90, they already shared it so that in the end, or you are so brilliant that one country will be ruled

In addition to your mental state, I have one question, what will you do if Vova dies tomorrow, and bequeaths to you all the time before his death?

As for the mental state, I will not even bicker with you, everyone is talking as he knows how.
And iPhone, in a quiet pool ... When the GDP came, he was also from Sobchak's team and no one believed in him. And then why it all came down to Medvedev, the post of prime minister does not automatically make him the next president, there are probably several options that we don’t even know about, even if “if he dies tomorrow”

[Rostislav]

This difference in income began to arise with the one marked and consolidated under the EBNe, when they seized almost the entire country. So all sorts of different "from rags to riches" broke through. And there is no chance to return the stolen.
So do not blame everything on GDP. He has done much more for Russia than his predecessors.

[Cube123]

Quote: Rostislav

This difference in income began to arise with the one marked and consolidated under the EBNe, when they seized almost the entire country. So all sorts of different "from rags to riches" broke through. And there is no chance to return the stolen.

The difference in income is characteristic of all countries under capitalism. In economics, it is called the Pareto Distribution. At the household level, it is formulated: “the 20 to 80 rule (which states: 20% of the population owns 80% of wealth)”

[Alexander Ra]

“... At the household level, it is formulated:“ a rule of 20 to 80 (which states: 20% of the population owns 80% of wealth) ”... is an unreasonably expanded interpretation. A 10-fold difference in income is a sign of the presence of anthropo-consumerism in human society ( parasites, predators) .While inside animal populations this is not the case. In the USSR, the decile coefficient was 3-6. Today in Russia it is 15-30 (or more).

[Sverdlov]

Yes, the GDP has done a lot, but he needs to leave. The "oligarchs" whom he defends have no place in the country. Either there will be a decent payment for work, allowing you to live with dignity, or it will be like in 17 ...

[Lelek]

Quote: Rostislav

So do not blame everything on GDP. He has done much more for Russia than his predecessors.

Right. And comrade Don Trump helped him and money flowed from Russia over the hill. And this is good.

[SPACE]

Quote: Stas157

So that the income difference is not millions of times between the poorest and richest

And how do you do that? What will be your redistribution mechanism?
There was one small factory, it worked neither shakyly or swiftly, the products were not in special demand, although the team was quite competent, they ate enough salary for horseradish and salt, and they periodically detained them or sent them on vacation for three months without any maintenance. And then one day they took a young girl as a sales manager, put her on a percentage and after half a year she at a time, sold all the volume of products that a factory can give, three years ahead! Naturally, the girl did not grab the dough and grabbed it nicely for fun, it’s not necessary to work. But the people at the factory got fat and began to grumble at her that they say the grandmother receives the most and doesn’t do nichrome, and they all plow in two shifts like Papa Carlo, in general they got her Geth, well, she left where she is valued. After a while, the contract ended and at the factory, as before, they began to suck the last horseradish with salt, and then completely closed. The moral of this story is that equality and justice are mutually exclusive concepts!

[Sverdlov]

Nifiga! You must be able to work ...
And trade is also work ...

[onix757]

A fairy tale far from life. Who then belonged to the factory? Who planted the girl? What was the difference between the salary of the girl and the "fat" workers? And finally, where did you see workers having voting rights in a private enterprise?

[Sverdlov]

No voting rights. When I plowed a turner at a private trader for 12 hours and he decided not to pay me, I just stole 1200 cutting tools and sold them.

[SPACE]

This is not a fairy tale. The team may not have the right to vote, but bypassing the director who hired the seller, the owner was still affected.

[Anti-Corr.]

Quote: SPACE

SPACE

An interesting tale ... about the "candle factory", and let's talk about the "Hammer and Sickle" or about ball-bearing.
And in your fairy tale, “girl” is Chubais ?, who, after “flowers” ​​and “socks”, began to trade the country? , putting the guarantor to the post of king.

[Freeman]

SPACE Today, 11:24
And then one day they took a young girl sales manager

Gee! Fairy tales Old SM? / (Sales manager - SM)
Hello my friend, today I will tell you an old fairy tale ...

Once upon a time there was one sales manager. Went to get a job. How long did they send the resume briefly, but somehow came to the same office for an interview with the general director. And they went interview for six hours. Even the director got soaked, and the manager asked for water three times. But all can’t agree. We started with two hundred bucks a month - and they argue for two and a half kilobaxes, and interest, and bonuses, and some other gyms, mobile communications, lunches, lifts, insurance, vacation, business trips, an official car, a laptop, a bunch of all the manager knocked himself out. As a result, the general director surrendered, fulfilled all the conditions. All that the manager asked for was given.
The manager started to work, and in the first month he tripled his sales, then tenfold, then a hundred times, then he sold everything in the office, including furniture, stationery, a secretary to men in a bathhouse, a customer database to competitors, and the boss himself - tax.
Because it was a very good sales manager..

Sorry for offtopic.

[Stas157]

Quote: SPACE

There was one small factory ... ... ate eating salary for horseradish with salt enough ... ... And then one day they took a young girl sales manager ... ... she at a time, sold all the volume of products that the factory can give out, three years ahead! ... ... The moral of this story is that equality and justice are mutually exclusive concepts!

What a tearful tale you have! Let me ask, what about the other girls in the sales department that were underdeveloped, that they could not sell the products? Or maybe your miracle girl was a sorceress?
But, be it your way, we will make the assumption that your genius girl really showed miracles of sales. In order not to be unfounded, you take and assign her a salary yourself! Which one would she get? 100 or maybe 200 thousand rubles? Yes, let it be at least 500 thousand - for gifted girls it’s not a pity!
But directors at leading state-owned companies receive several million dollars a month. This is more than 100 million rubles, every month! So what does your girl have to do with it ?? Do girls managers, even magicians, get so much ?? If all this thieves (directors and owners) would receive as your girlfriend there would be no questions! There would not be such a huge gap between the rich and the poor. And then in fact they appoint salaries from the ceiling, and even steal cars!

[Stas157]

Quote: SPACE

sales manager girl

Space! AvtoVAZ urgently needs your miracle girl, they can’t sell their "buckets with bolts"! Phone do not tell the girl? A million cars need to be sold!

[SPACE]

Quote: Stas157

There would not be such a huge gap between the rich and the poor. And then in fact they appoint salaries from the ceiling, and even steal cars

I asked you a question above.

Each working person can count on a salary whose value is equal to the cost of the products or services they produce minus expenses, taxes, income of the business owner, plus + minus. So, before demanding, it is worth considering and counting, but what have you earned? If less, then it is necessary to demand an increase, if more, then it is useless. Managerial salaries are measured by the total profit of the enterprise, especially if the manager contributed to the growth of income of the enterprise.

[SCHNIFER]

How much should Sechin and Kostin and Miller produce? Or are they the whole product themselves? Stop lying!

[Weyland]

Quote: Stas157

So that the income difference is not a million times between the poorest and the richest, as is the case under Mr. Putin.

then they will no longer be oligarchs!

[New Year day]

Quote: Golovan Jack

this whole booth is already over

another shed begins - taxes, "reforms", etc.

[Cube123]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Golovan Jack

this whole booth is already over

another shed begins - taxes, "reforms", etc.

But this is no longer a booth, it is already a normal life and development.

[New Year day]

Quote: Cube123

this is normal life and development.

Do you think that new taxes and new prices at current incomes are normal life?
If Putin himself said that new taxes should be reduced! But they will change or not, the question!

[Cube123]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Cube123

this is normal life and development.

Do you think that new taxes and new prices at current incomes are normal life?
If Putin himself said that new taxes should be reduced! But they will change or not, the question!

Life is to adjust regulation to constantly changing conditions. It is only near-minded people who believe that you can write "rules" once and then you can live on them for centuries.

[New Year day]

Quote: Cube123

It is only near-minded people who believe that you can write "rules" once and then you can live on them for centuries.

weird. The US Constitution has not changed since 1787 and they live, they have not died.
Sweden - the constitution has been alive since 1809.
Argentina - the constitution has been alive since 1853.
They did not die and do not rewrite. Looks like near-minded people rewrite the constitution "for themselves"?

[Fox]

Quote: Silvestr

weird. The US Costituation has not changed since 1787 and lives, they have not died.
Sweden - the constitution has been alive since 1809.
Argentina - the constitution has been alive since 1853.
They did not die and do not rewrite. Looks like near-minded people rewrite the constitution "for themselves"?

well, England does without a constitution at all.

[New Year day]

Quote: Fox

well, England does without a constitution at all.

so can we? Well her, this Eltsin’s constitution in ..?

[Svarog]

Quote: Silvestr

If Putin himself said that new taxes should be reduced! But they will change or not, the question!

Putin, he has been talking about the same thing for about 18 years .. But it’s necessary to talk rather than talk and show good wishes .. to look at his affairs .. then for ordinary people they just tighten the screws, and the oligarchs are exempted from taxes .. Grudinin was simply ignore, about all the clowns show, and Grudinin even stopped showing. And when they show, they ask not what he is going to do when he becomes president, but all about the accounts ..

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Svarog

then for ordinary people they only tighten the screws, and exempt the oligarchs from taxes ..

The impoverished ordinary citizens filled the roads with their cars, buying housing for themselves and their children on an “overwhelming” mortgage, why cities are growing, and the “exempted from taxes” oligarchs are trying to screw over the hill so that they can take it out - what is it? After all, in Russia did he create paradise conditions?
No need to escalate the hysteria of the pessimists. What life is poisoning in Russia is a large number of whiners, lazy people and pessimites. But it’s good that they are much less than you would like.

[sdc_alex]

Quote: Alex-a832

The impoverished ordinary citizens filled the roads with their cars, buying housing for themselves and their children on an “overwhelming” mortgage, why cities are growing, and the “exempted from taxes” oligarchs are trying to screw over the hill so that they can take it out - what is it? After all, in Russia did he create paradise conditions?
No need to escalate the hysteria of the pessimists. What life is poisoning in Russia is a large number of whiners, lazy people and pessimites. But it’s good that they are much less than you would like.

With two knives "FOR" !!!!

[SCHNIFER]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[let's say]

Ufff ... and again g ...

I wanted to pick strawberries, I bast basket,
With hope I planted beautiful bushes
But before me was only a little bit,
And nothing more, there was no strawberry. Alas…

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Golovan Jack

But the oligarchs-too ???

Well, not Grudinin’s enemy to himself ?!
It is funny that those who are “against” the oligarchs, against holding capital in foreign accounts and “for” the development of the real sector of the economy vote for him. That is, those in the understanding of the "worthy president" whom Grudinin does not fit at all, except for eloquence, of course.

[zoolu350]

Since when has the faithful bleach of the wretched actions of the Russian oligarchy Golovan Jack become his enemy?

[assa67]

Roma welcome I agree, the election campaign is tired of ... the GDP should have proclaimed itself a life ruler and the end of the matter ... how many farts in the west would tear ..

[AUL]

Glory to the Almighty, in a week this whole booth will end well

Golovan, will you be fired or will they just give you a vacation?

[Stas157]

Quote: Oden280

Not only is he just dumb, but he is also the most typical representative of our businessmen-stalls with their psychology and ways of doing things: to deceive - to throw - to grab - to dump, in about this order.

What you described is exactly how this hour is happening, all of the oligarchs with the psychology of ordinary coffers, temporary workers, with the active patronage of Vladimir Putin! Grudinin didn’t throw anyone, didn’t steal, and looking at how much he paid to ordinary collective farmers (the city would surely envy!), What kind of kindergarten and school he played for people, he did not look like a grabber. You are out of a sharp hostility, carefully suggested by Putin's media, wishful thinking! And do not pay attention to the completely obvious facts that lie at hand.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Grudinin didn’t throw anyone

Courts on land recall ...

Quote: Stas157

didn't steal

He earned 157 million in 6 years, while on the accounts more than 7.5 billion.
Where is the droushka?

Quote: Stas157

how much does he pay ordinary farmers

And how many of those collective farmers? One hundred, two hundred?
Duc is a penny in his business (rent, I remind you).

Quote: Stas157

what kindergarten and school for people did you play

For which specific "people", specify? And for what money?
I already noticed a couple of years ago that they carefully make a showcase from G. (and I found what to make of ).

Quote: Stas157

he doesn’t look like a grabber at all

Looks like, looks like ... even like looks ... Alchen typical

[Stas157]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Courts on land recall ...

Do not read Putin’s newspapers before breakfast. ©

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Golovan Jack

Courts on land recall ...

Do not read Putin’s newspapers before breakfast. ©

There were courts, and G. lost them.
Everything else - your girlish dreams

[onix757]

Quote: Golovan Jack

There were courts, and G. lost them.
Everything else - your girlish dreams

What courts when? Case number will be?

[Svarog]

Quote: onix757

Quote: Golovan Jack

There were courts, and G. lost them.
Everything else - your girlish dreams

What courts when? Case number will be?

No, it won’t be, Golovan’s arguments as Petrov’s became .. Against the truth, no arguing, but Golovan is trying

[Svarog]

Quote: Golovan Jack

There were courts, and G. lost them. Everything else - your girlish dreams

Golovan, again you are lying ..
He won all the courts, except the last one, which he organized just before the election .. And you know our courts ..

[onix757]

He won all the courts, except the last one, which he organized just before the election ..

There the decision did not enter into legal force. There will be an appeal and there is a great chance that they will be canceled, since there will no longer be a resonance after the elections.

[Svarog]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Golovan Jack

Courts on land recall ...

Do not read Putin’s newspapers before breakfast. ©

He doesn’t read them, he writes them

[Galleon]

No, he cannot write them. To write - at least partially, thoughts are needed and abilities, and he has neither one nor the other - only flutter much more.

[onix757]

Courts on land recall ..

Let's remember. What did he tame and what decision came into force?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: onix757

Come on ...

... with this - to his wife. If there is one
I didn’t sign up to argue with Pinocchio

[onix757]

Quote: Golovan Jack

with this - to his wife. If there is one
I didn’t sign up to argue with Pinocchio

Lamb has a chance to get a golden key from logs, never.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: onix757

У lamb There is a chance

Go already to dig in the gold, Cat G. and Fox Sue are waiting for you with impatience.
Baratina

[onix757]

Go already to dig in the gold, Cat G. and Fox Sue are waiting for you with impatience.
Baratina

Gold is someone to bury in wonderland.
"Cat G. and Fox Sue" will rather dig out what the "workers" from Karabas’s circle hid.

[Svarog]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: onix757

У lamb There is a chance

Go already to dig in the gold, Cat G. and Fox Sue are waiting for you with impatience.
Baratina

All gold has already been buried by those in power now. Golovan .. and where did Putin's friend cellist get 2 billion from the account? Even if he were the best cellist of the galaxy, he would not have earned such money

[onix757]

He earned 157 million in 6 years, while on the accounts more than 7.5 billion.

Little liar. On all accounts, 55 million rubles. Is it not too small compared to the environment you yourself know who? But you could become a dollar billionaire, sell the collective farm land to the hucksters.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Grudinin also rode the subway with a hare, parks in places for the disabled and does not pay alimony to his ex-wife and 8 children in Brazil. Turn on the brain at last, don’t be a fool, you are being manipulated. And the best decision is to boycott these elections. Because everything is worse.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Where is the droushka?

"Firewood" is clearly fabulous. I read the accountability of his "state farm". So, this reporting only confirms that the "elephant" of this petty bourgeois was "fooled".

[Oden280]

Where did you see ordinary collective farmers there? The permanent salary, which everyone says so, only receives a permanent staff: the board, accounting and managers, a total of about 50 people. But how much hired and seasonal workers receive, for some reason they keep quiet about it (maximum 20000 rubles a month). With pickers, berries are generally paid with strawberries, most often culled.

[onix757]

Quote: Oden280

Where did you see ordinary collective farmers there? The permanent salary, which everyone says so, only receives a permanent staff: the board, accounting and managers, a total of about 50 people.

Proof or will I really dedicate you?

[Oden280]

I think this will be enough.
http://otzovik.com/review_3443151.html
http://otzovik.com/review_2227546.html
https://vk.com/topic-7258781_23154648
PS For the last link, pay attention to the dates of comments.

[onix757]

Where did you see ordinary collective farmers there? The permanent salary, which everyone says so, only gets a permanent staff: the board, accounting and managers, a total of about 50 people

There is an outright lie. On an ongoing basis, ZAO employs from 400 to 500 people. Shareholders of 40 people. Dividends are not paid, but allowed on the development of the enterprise.

But how much hired and seasonal workers receive, for some reason they keep quiet about it (maximum 20000 rubles a month). With pickers, berries are generally paid with strawberries, most often culled.

Wage workers dragged there by force? Everything is very simple, not enough 20 thousand, let them go beyond the Moscow Ring Road and arrange themselves as janitors to Sobyanin for 15-18 thousand.
And yes, the links are about nothing.

[Oden280]

All who are not shareholders this is the wage workers, and then on. what you are hinting is seasonal.
And the links very accurately describe how the work itself is there. so is the attitude of the owners towards people. This is especially true of such wonderful schools, kindergartens and hospitals, which essentially belong to Grudinin and he receives loot for their rent.

[Serg65]

Quote: Stas157

You are from the acute hostility diligently suggested by Putin's media

Stas157, my friend, do you really think that the people around you are very near and their eyes are in the back?

Quote: Stas157

do not pay attention to the completely obvious facts that lie at hand.

Just pay attention to the facts, and not to your cries about how Putin's media "spread rot" Grudinin, a sort of cutie and a good guy

[Svarog]

Quote: Serg65

Stas157, my friend, do you really think that the people around you are very near and their eyes are in the back?

I won’t say anything about all people, but about you, I personally think so

Quote: Serg65

Just pay attention to the facts, and not to your cries about how Putin's media "spread rot" Grudinin, a sort of cutie and a good guy

When it comes to you about the facts .. you begin to carry all the nonsense .. Here is a fact for you .. we are on the basis of per capita income, now there is the African country of Gabon .. This is a fact, a fact that this government has come to .. What do you think?

[Serg65]

Quote: Svarog

When it comes to you about the facts .. you begin to carry all the nonsense

Well, the Communists and the Socialists are in the blood to label this, all around are bad, we are good alone!

Quote: Svarog

we are by per capita income, now near the African country of Gabon

Well, yes, 72-e, and in communist China 71-e , and all in the rating of 187 countries

Quote: Svarog

What do you think?

Where was the USSR in 91, where was Russia in 2000, and where is it now ????

[Svarog]

Quote: Serg65

Well, yes, 72nd place, with Communist China 71st, and only 187 countries in the ranking

Taki agree that we are in the opera .. it honors you .. And then what to talk about? As for China, in 10 years it will leave us far behind, given how fast China is developing and how we are. Although in the 90s our positions were different, China was very far behind us in all respects.

Quote: Serg65

Where was the USSR in 91, where was Russia in 2000, and where is it now ????

And why didn’t they take 37, or 61 .. You understand, if this is really interesting to you. The reasons for the growth of our economy directly depend on oil prices .. As soon as it went down, hi 90s .. After all, they didn’t create anything fundamentally important, only blah blah blah .. "breakthroughs" and intentions .. And the second reason growth, compared with the 90s, these are loans .. the population owes 11 tr. to banks rubles ..
And you want to endure all this for another 6 years? Do you really not see that this government doesn’t want to do anything for the development of the country, for people ... Everything is done only because it is beneficial to the oligarchs - Putin’s friends. Think about what law has been passed recently that has improved the lives of ordinary citizens? What is generally done for the people?

[Serg65]

Quote: Svarog

Taki agree that we are in opera

Being, as you say in opera, with one of the most economically developed countries is not so bad

Quote: Svarog

As for China, in 10 years it will leave us far behind

I knew that you have a time machine !!!!

Quote: Svarog

in 90 our positions were different, China was very far behind us in all respects.

and right there ...

Quote: Svarog

in 10 years it will leave us far behind, given how fast China is developing and how we are.

Mr. Socialist, tell me, why did you start perestroika? Even in the distant 85 they were saying that we would follow the Chinese development path, China was lagging behind us, and you were sending us to the Chinese development path - PARADOX !!!!!

Quote: Svarog

You understand, if it is really interesting to you. The reasons for the growth of our economy is directly dependent on oil prices

The top of cynicism, Mr. Svarog! The growth of our economy at the moment depends on loyalty to SSHA and more! Get on your knees, sprinkle ash on your head, give Crimea, forget about the Donbass, stop spending money on the army and you will be happy! The sanctions will be lifted, extra money will appear, and how will you start to raise the economy !!! Uhhh !!!
By the way, the reason for the growth of the USSR's GDP in the 70's also directly depended on oil

Quote: Svarog

Do you really not see that this government doesn’t want to do anything for the development of the country, for people

I even see it, for example, I see traffic jams on the streets of Ulyanovsk, which 4 did not exist a year ago, I see fields cultivated on the Don highway right behind the Sokolovaya Desert, and 5 years ago everything was covered with bushes there, I see how plants grow in Novomoskovsk like mushrooms, by the way, and in Ulyanovsk, I see how ordinary peasants are raising agriculture in the bearish corners of the Minusinsk Territory and in the steppes of Altai, I see how Russia shares the first place in grain export, although with 70 I bought this very grain from the capitalists, but I see a lot of things, you just eyes do not open Do you want or pride does not allow?

Quote: Svarog

All that is done is only because it is beneficial to the oligarchs - Putin’s friends.

Grudinin will come well and will do what is beneficial to Zyuganov .... and what is the difference ???

[onix757]

Being, as you say in opera, with one of the most economically developed countries is not so bad

Can you tell me where in the world in terms of key indicators one of the most economically developed countries is? Do we enter the top ten or fly out?

[onix757]

The top of cynicism, Mr. Svarog! The growth of our economy at the moment depends on loyalty to SSHA and more! Get on your knees, sprinkle ash on your head, give Crimea, forget about the Donbass, stop spending money on the army and you will be happy!

The difference between true patriots and pro-government false patriots is the vision of causes and effects. If you think that these events occurred in the interests of the people, then you are deeply mistaken. And what to give money bags to without Svarog will decide.

By the way, the reason for the USSR GDP growth in the 70s also directly depended on oil

Yeah, only the USSR’s GDP was 35% of the world’s, and the Russian Federation is content with an honorable 2%. There was one export gas pipeline in the Union and now no less than 3

[onix757]

I even see it, for example, I see traffic jams on the streets of Ulyanovsk,

That's about Ulyanovsk is not necessary. The city is the poorest in the Volga region, and the population is loaned out at its most reluctant. Fragments from the past industry.

Novomoskovsk plants like mushrooms grow

What has grown up there with you. A chemical plant in Novomoskovsk was built during the time of the Union.

by the way, and in Ulyanovsk, I see how ordinary peasants raise agriculture in the bearish corners of the Minusinsk Territory and in the Altai steppes, I see how Russia shares the first place in grain export, although since the 70s it bought this grain from the capitalists, but I see a lot of things, it's you just do not want to open your eyes or pride does not allow?

Ordinary peasants raised in their gardens and during the Union, but then no one tore the land tax on people.
The Russian Federation exports a lot of grain because there is no place to store it and there are few cattle. But in general, we export low-quality grain collapsing world markets.

Grudinin will come well and will do what is beneficial to Zyuganov .... and what is the difference ??

Not according to Zyuganov but according to the program. Do you feel the difference when it all depends not on one person?

[Svarog]

Quote: Serg65

Grudinin will come well and will do what is beneficial to Zyuganov .... and what is the difference ???

The difference is huge Grudinin will do what is formulated in 20 steps of the Communist Party ..

Quote: Serg65

I even see it, for example, I see traffic jams on the streets of Ulyanovsk, which 4 did not exist a year ago, I see fields cultivated on the Don highway right behind the Sokolovaya Desert, and 5 years ago everything was covered with bushes there, I see how plants grow in Novomoskovsk like mushrooms, by the way, and in Ulyanovsk, I see how ordinary peasants are raising agriculture in the bearish corners of the Minusinsk Territory and in the steppes of Altai, I see how Russia shares the first place in grain export, although with 70 I bought this very grain from the capitalists, but I see a lot of things, you just eyes do not open Do you want or pride does not allow?

And here again the facts .. where are we in terms of per capita income? Right at 71 .. so what you see .. A lot of cars? So in Russia the average age of a car is 14 years old! And 90% bought on credit .. First place in grain)) so why are bread prices rising? Everything else is your dream or violent fantasy ..

Quote: Serg65

The top of cynicism, Mr. Svarog! The growth of our economy at the moment depends on loyalty to SSHA and more! Get on your knees, sprinkle ash on your head, give Crimea, forget about the Donbass, stop spending money on the army and you will be happy! The sanctions will be lifted, extra money will appear, and how will you start to raise the economy !!! Ughhh !!! By the way, the reason for the growth of the USSR GDP in the 70s also directly depended on oil

You are so not informed, but trying to be clever)) Sanctions, sanctions .. We are self-sufficient, we are the largest country in the world, with the richest natural resources .. We should look into ourselves and focus on internal problems .. Everyone who imposes sanctions themselves will be under them.

Quote: Serg65

Mr. Socialist, tell me, why did you start perestroika? Even in the distant 85 they were saying that we would follow the Chinese development path, China was lagging behind us, and you were sending us to the Chinese development path - PARADOX !!!!!

Perestroika started Gorbachev. Which is one of the traitors of the motherland.

Quote: Serg65

Being, as you say in opera, with one of the most economically developed countries is not so bad

This is because the Chinese are 1,5 billion. By the way, we are also dying out and today's government is actively helping this.

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Svarog

Here you have a fact .. we are on per capita income, now the African country of Gabon is next .. This is a fact, a fact that this government came to ..

To make ratings on disparate conditions is the main work of "independent" rating agencies. If Washington needs to show that Russia is suffering from "sanctions", then we will be lowered in the ranking by 20 positions and even after Ukraine. Media feed and a tool to show that something is changing somewhere "by the will of the exceptional", as well as to escalate public opinion in countries that are under the gun of the mercantile interests of the world bourgeoisie.

[Svarog]

Quote: Alex-a832

Quote: Svarog

Here you have a fact .. we are on per capita income, now the African country of Gabon is next .. This is a fact, a fact that this government came to ..

To make ratings on disparate conditions is the main work of "independent" rating agencies. If Washington needs to show that Russia is suffering from "sanctions", then we will be lowered in the ranking by 20 positions and even after Ukraine. Media feed and a tool to show that something is changing somewhere "by the will of the exceptional", as well as to escalate public opinion in countries that are under the gun of the mercantile interests of the world bourgeoisie.

Of course, as everything is bad .. so the State Department is to blame, as they invented the rocket, Putin personally designed .... What are you talking about ... you’re living in England .. it’s enough to go out and everything will become clear ..

[Alex-a832]

Quote: Svarog

What are you talking about ... as if you live in England .. it’s enough to go outside and everything will become clear ..

Apparently you lived in England, or you live - you know better. And I have a similar picture on any surrounding streets: clean streets, parking lots are chock full of personal cars with the predominance of foreign cars, mostly not older than 10 years. A lot of kids are playing, a lot of mothers with babies, the city continues to be built. The super and hypermarkets are full of people, the counters are full of products and things for any income. Drunkards and paupers are not noticeable, although they are found. Demonstrations, pickets, barricades are not visible. People are resting with a completely satisfied look. Maybe I'm really in England, and not in a poor and backward, as you say, Russia?

[Serge Gorely]

And how much does the strawberry king pay for advertising? In my opinion in vain. On this site, few people believe in fairy tales about a popular chess oligarch.

[K.A.S.]

Do you want an apartment for free? And what MMM did not suit you? Compared to the sternum, the standard of truth?
The miracle of sternum is based on proximity to Moscow, as a market for the sale and leasing of land for gardeners and shopping centers. Which on the state farm is not enough! And with strawberries, not everything is clear!
Do not believe advertising on his collective farm, far from everyone is not comfortable!

[Stas157]

Quote: K.A.S.

Do you want an apartment for free? And what MMM did not suit you? Compared to the sternum, the standard of truth?

And what does Grudinin have in the program somewhere to give promises of an apartment? I have not heard that! Why are you carrying all this ... By the way, only Grudinin in Russia made a completely free mortgage for his collective farmers. As they say, not in words but in deeds!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Grudinin ... did for his collective farmers completely free mortgage

Stas, your ignorance sometimes touches.
Engineer You say?
Um

[Stas157]

Quote: Stas157

By the way, only Grudinin in Russia made a mortgage for his collective farmers.

Quote: Golovan Jack

Stas, your ignorance sometimes touches.

Not exactly put it. I meant mortgage interest. There is none of them! What did you think? This is a fact known to all.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

I meant mortgage interest. There is none of them!

Do you recall Islamic banking?
There, too, "no interest."
And the benefit - is, cannot but eat ...

Quote: Stas157

it’s a fact known to all

About nothing

[Svarog]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Stas, sometimes your ignorance touches. Engineer, you say? Um

Are you Golovan teacher? I noticed that your spelling is in order, but the rest is trouble .. At the same time, you are trying to pass off your knowledge of grammar as an incredible intellect These are different things ..

[seos]

By the way, only Grudinin in Russia made a mortgage for his collective farmers.

He made the mortgage free with malicious intent ... so that the workers would buy housing from him .... and always work for him ...
About kindergarten and school - their construction is a prerequisite for the builder and they are built with the money of those who bought the apartment ... (included in the price of housing)

[onix757]

Quote: seos

He made the mortgage free with malicious intent ... so that the workers would buy housing from him .... and always work for him ...

Apparently from good intentions to all other citizens of the Russian Federation at 10% well, so as not to tie)))

Quote: seos

About kindergarten and school - their construction is a prerequisite for the builder and they are built with the money of those who bought the apartment ... (included in the price of housing)

Wow, damn it, and where is such a rule? A case not in the urban planning code of Moscow? That's just bad luck, this is not Moscow, and the land of CJSC is a commercial enterprise and it does not owe anything to anyone. Could open everything and no one would say a word to him.
And then, name as an example at least one more agricultural enterprise with the same infrastructure, if obligated, then there should be no worse.

[seos]

Nobody will give permission for the construction of multi-storey residential buildings even if it is private land .... you can build a castle for yourself and there is no residential building .... when coordinating the project, the presence of kindergartens, schools and hospitals is taken into account ... and the developer must build them - these are all-Russian rules, they simply build districts only in large cities. In the Moscow region, the same builder is about to build a school and kindergarten, but then it depends on the roof of the builder .... he can build a kindergarten and school, but he will make them private with places of 180 a year ...

[onix757]

Quote: seos

these are all-Russian rules, they simply build districts only in large cities. In the Moscow region, the same builder is about to build a school and a kindergarten, but then it depends on the roof of the builder ...

What are the all-Russian rules? What is the normative act?

he may build a kindergarten and a school, but he will make them private with places of 180 a year ...

The kindergarten and school are built at the expense of profit and are absolutely free.

[Svarog]

Quote: seos

About kindergarten and school - their construction is a prerequisite for the builder and they are built with the money of those who bought the apartment ... (included in the price of housing)

Have you ever seen such schools and kindergartens in Russia? If he wanted to get off with formality, then there would be an ordinary gray kindergarten and school .. But Grudinin approached this with a soul ... and not sparing money ..

[Stas157]

Quote: seos

He made the mortgage free with malicious intent ... so that the workers would buy housing from him .... and always work for him ...

If only Putin had suggested that he, too, with malicious intent, make a free mortgage all over the country, so that people (and oligarchs too!) Would only buy housing in Russia!

Quote: seos

About kindergarten and school - their construction is a prerequisite for the builder and they are built with the money of those who bought the apartment ... (included in the price of housing)

Exactly in the form with which the entrepreneur Grudinin built them ?? The kindergarten looks more like a palace! (By the way, businessman Grudinin himself does not live in a palace, as government officials do.) But the school is the best in Russia, an analogue of the best Finnish schools!

[SHURUM -BURUM]

The Miracle of Grudinin, incomprehensible to the ruling party, lies in the fact that he believes that the better they live, the more concern their workers are involved in, the better they work. In the 90s, the head of our design bureau personally turned around, selling the products of his enterprise, which were given to the collective of the design bureau on a salary basis and distributed money to engineers. Because there was no money. But he could just go to another job. At the chiefs of relations - not with us. I still have deep respect for this man.

[onix757]

Quote: K.A.S.

The miracle of sternum is based on proximity to Moscow, as a market for the sale and leasing of land for gardeners and shopping centers. Which on the state farm is not enough! And with strawberries, not everything is clear!

If everything is so wonderful, then agricultural enterprises were to flourish around Moscow, but no, there was nothing left

[LSA57]

Quote: Stas157

For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs!

all have accounts in Swiss banks? I'm all for it"

[Ingvar 72]

Even the CEC acknowledged the lack of evidence on Grudinin's open accounts.

[72jora72]

Even the CEC acknowledged the lack of evidence on Grudinin's open accounts.

You are telling a lie, a request came to Switzerland which clearly states 6 accounts, plus 5 kg of gold. This way Pamfilova voiced.

[LSA57]

Quote: 72jora72

You are telling a lie, a request came to Switzerland which clearly states 6 accounts, plus 5 kg of gold.

"Putin" hackers fuss again

[onix757]

Quote: 72jora72

You are telling a lie, a request came to Switzerland which clearly states 6 accounts, plus 5 kg of gold. This way Pamfilova voiced.

There is a violation of the law. Why aren’t they taking off the election? Or maybe because the information as of December 31.12.2017, XNUMX?

[Stas157]

Quote: Serge Gorely

Oh yeah! Grudinin for narott! And Ksenia - a horse for narott. Look at the biography of Grudinin, with whom he did (and most importantly - how) the business. There is NO alternative to Putin in these elections.

I looked! Grudinin did his business with the collective farmers, and Putin with the oligarchs and stolen officials. If you are one of those who squeamishly call "narott"- vote for Putin, for you there is no alternative for a long time! Conscious people, people with no brainwashed will definitely not vote for Putin.

[Serg65]

Quote: Stas157

Conscious people, people with no brainwashing, will definitely not vote for Putin.

Those. Conscious and normal in Russia is only 10 percent? Well it is necessary !!!!
Yeah, wild people, you're right !!!!

[New Year day]

Quote: Serg65

Those. Conscious and normal in Russia is only 10 percent? Well it is necessary !!!!

Do you already know how the population of the Russian Federation voted?
In 12, Putin received a little over 60%. Do you think that in the 18th year will receive 90%?

[Svarog]

Quote: Silvestr

Do you already know how the population of the Russian Federation voted? In 12, Putin received a little more than 60%. Do you think that in the 18th year will receive 90%?

Judging by the comments, they rely on 103%

[New Year day]

Quote: Svarog

Judging by the comments, they rely on 103%

no limit to dreams

[seos]

No need to compare 12 years and 18 ...
+ Crimea
+ Aggression of the West
Since then, Putin’s rating has strengthened many times ... Including I’ll vote for Putin, although I have never voted for him before ...

[New Year day]

Quote: seos

Since then, Putin's rating has strengthened many times.

Putin in the Crimea showed the ability to act.
The more Putin pulls and waits, the more frustration he will get from the people. And then no one will give a broken penny for his life. If Putin is the main enemy of the West and the Fifth Column, then Putin must now begin to act. Do not wait for the weather by the sea, but act. It’s not the army that needs to be changed — your immediate circle and government must be changed. To go out to the people. The USSR fell, having the strongest army in the world. The army does not save from conspiracies and betrayal. But not to disperse the traitors on the eve of the war is an even greater betrayal.

[Svarog]

Quote: seos

No need to compare 12 years and 18 ...
+ Crimea
+ Aggression of the West
Since then, Putin’s rating has strengthened many times ... Including I’ll vote for Putin, although I have never voted for him before ...

hahah then the rating of 64% was now up to 387% strengthened

[Serge Gorely]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Serge Gorely

Oh yeah! Grudinin for narott! And Ksenia - a horse for narott. Look at the biography of Grudinin, with whom he did (and most importantly - how) the business. There is NO alternative to Putin in these elections.

I looked! Grudinin did his business with the collective farmers, and Putin with the oligarchs and stolen officials. If you are one of those who squeamishly call "narott"- vote for Putin, for you there is no alternative for a long time! Conscious people, people with no brainwashed will definitely not vote for Putin.

Especially for wooden waist-high. There is a concept of irony. I respect my people, I served my people for a long time. The fact that you are Stas, you are advertising, I hope for free, an absolutely insignificant creature, does not honor you. And, yes, pounding is not good .....

[midivan]

Quote: Stas157

I would very much like to hope for that! For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs!

Have come? Come on, come on. And I suspect he himself is no longer happy that he was led to this concert.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: midivan

Come on C'mon, led.

Yeah, did Putin come by himself? Remind me something jumped out of your head. Himself, yes? I just picked it up and came. I, they say, Putin, and you will be fine.
Is that right?

[midivan]

Quote: Banshee

Is that right?

Yes, it’s not the other way round, which is why I am laughing, and they don’t bring such people, but then I came to you But I don’t believe Grudinin, I just don’t believe.

[Serg65]

Quote: Banshee

and Putin himself came?

The curator took the place of the ward, and what do you think?

[Orionvit]

Quote: Banshee

I say Putin, and you will be fine.

You my friend live in an information swamp. Putin never promises anything for nothing, he says what needs to be done. This is the real approach to business. The remaining presidential candidates resemble some males who, figuratively speaking, are ready to do anything to "take off" a woman for the night (for 6 years) and the fountain of eloquence in such people will not run out. The most interesting thing is that some "take" women to argue, and not because they like her. There you have the whole analogy.

[onix757]

Quote: Orionvit

This is the real approach to business.

So what's the real approach? Nothing has been fulfilled, only promises for a decent life, but in fact ignoring the interests of people

[Orionvit]

Quote: onix757

Nothing has been fulfilled, only promises for a decent life, but in fact ignoring the interests of people

Stop living in a fictional world, after the collapse of the Union, nobody owes you anything. Have you forgotten which country you live in? Let me remind you that under oligarchic-liberal democracy, and it was not Putin who built it, this "shalman" was inherited from him.

So what's the real approach?

While living in Russia, you still do not understand what can be explained to you then? Or is the memory bad, didn’t live in the 90s? Or do you get used to the good, and not noticeable anymore? I like you, I saw a lot in Kiev on the Maidan, with pots on their heads. They said the same thing a lot about “decent life”, absolutely not bothering with the question of how to do it. Who promised tomorrow a fabulous life (as you want), that and the presidency. Results in Ukraine to remind you? Or even the example of neighbors will learn the mind is not enough?

[onix757]

Quote: Orionvit

Let me remind you that under oligarchic-liberal democracy, and it was not Putin who built it, this "shalman" was inherited from him.

The scary thing is not that of the inheritance, but the scary thing is that it suits.

While living in Russia, you still do not understand what can be explained to you then? And is the memory bad, didn’t live in the 90s? Or do you get used to the good, and not noticeable anymore?

He lived in the 90s and of course there is something to compare. What will we compare economic indicators or the social sphere?

I like you, I saw a lot in Kiev on the Maidan, with pots on their heads. They said the same thing a lot about “decent life”, absolutely not bothering with the question of how to do it. Who promised tomorrow a fabulous life (as you want), that and the presidency. Results in Ukraine to remind you? Or even the example of neighbors will learn the mind is not enough?

If my memory serves me in one of his interviews, the guarantor broadcast about the justice of the demands of the people on the Maidan, so what terrible thing did you see in the demands of the people? Another thing is that people did not realize that a change in the ruling elites does not lead to a change in the social system.
I do not see the difference between the political and economic situation in the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Both oligarchs are in power here and there, and there and there the population is poor and the public treasure is being sold there and there. The only difference is that the Russian Federation possesses 40% of the world's reserves of natural resources, which, among other things, does not interfere with having a poor population.

[Dart2027]

Quote: onix757

so why are you afraid of the requirements of people

The fact that universal justice is an unattainable ideal.

[Svarog]

Quote: Orionvit

Quote: Banshee

I say Putin, and you will be fine.

You my friend live in an information swamp. Putin never promises anything for nothing, he says what needs to be done. This is the real approach to business. The remaining presidential candidates resemble some males who, figuratively speaking, are ready to do anything to "take off" a woman for the night (for 6 years) and the fountain of eloquence in such people will not run out. The most interesting thing is that some "take" women to argue, and not because they like her. There you have the whole analogy.

Why so many words? You need to look at the facts. And the facts are 20 ml. population - below the poverty line (this is official statistics) in reality, all 30%. 50% barely make ends meet .. well, the rest of the officials, and other people who are not far from the feeder .. In terms of per capita income, we caught up with Africa .. These are all facts .. and not all ..

[seos]

It’s hard to do better, but anyone can do worse .... the country will not survive the arrival of the 2nd Yeltsin or Gorbachev
Look at Yeltsin’s early speeches - it’s just the soul of the people .... and now I would have a real chance of becoming president ... but how did you become so?
So I watched a video with Grudinin ... it’s immediately clear that he does not defend his ideals, he says the words of political scientists .... the blue are in the trend ... so he is for the blue ... the people are against the blue and he is there too ...
Moreover, all of Ukraine beyond Grudinin’s mountain ... - does that mean something to you?

[SCHNIFER]

!!!!!!!!!!

[askort154]

Stas157 ....That would be very hopeful! For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs

Ukraine is already "comfortable with EVERYTHING". They also hoped that Poroshenko, a man who knows how to make money, and therefore will be able to raise Ukraine. What is the difference between Grudinin and Poroshenko? ! Poroshenko had a great advantage over Grudinin. Poroshenko was the minister of economy of the country, and Grudinin - "chairman of the collective farm." Poroshenko - an open millionaire, Grudinin - underground, shadow. Only a far-sighted person can trust "sternum".

[New Year day]

Quote: askort154

What is the difference between Grudinin and Poroshenko? ! Poroshenko had a great advantage over Grudinin.

But did Grudinin call for a military coup? Tell me what is your conclusion based on.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Silvestr

But did Grudinin call for a military coup?

Did Gorbachev call for destruction? On the contrary, he talked too much about various beautiful abstract things, such as “acceleration” and “perestroika”, and went out in chatter about the “common good” and the rest of the bullshit for the young. And then with "good" intentions and a smile, he surrendered everything to the west.

[New Year day]

Quote: Orionvit

Did Gorbachev call for destruction?

We are talking about Grudinin. What does Gorbachev have to do with it? Do not remember Yeltsin and his slogans?
By the way, do not explain why in our time in the fight against poverty poverty prevailed? from 56 to 90 place? Did the number of wealthy grow from 12 to 220?

[Orionvit]

Quote: Silvestr

We are talking about Grudinin. What does Gorbachev have to do with it? Do not remember Yeltsin and his slogans?

One gets the impression that in your quest for "all that is good, against all that is bad", you are simply blind, and you can’t count twice what you can say. And Grudinin, and Yeltsin and Gorbachev, these are people from the same ideological brood (who gets these, for what and for whose money, guess three times).

[Svarog]

Quote: Orionvit

Grudinin, and Yeltsin and Gorbachev,

You have mixed up, instead of Grudinin Putin should be there.

[New Year day]

Quote: Orionvit

And Grudinin, and Yeltsin and Gorbachev, these are people from one ideological brood

and Putin? Is it not from this brood?

[askort154]

Silvestr...But did Grudinin call for a military coup? Tell me what is your conclusion based on.

Oh ... oh! How it all starts. You did not understand anything from my message to you. You confuse the hot with the solid. I don’t see the point in the dialogue.

[New Year day]

Quote: askort154

You did not understand anything from my message to you. You confuse the hot with the solid. I do not see the point in the dialogue

it’s easier to be in the statements, although in what context you wrote, in my opinion, clearly.

[Svarog]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: askort154

You did not understand anything from my message to you. You confuse the hot with the solid. I do not see the point in the dialogue

it’s easier to be in the statements, although in what context you wrote, in my opinion, clearly.

When there are no arguments and facts, they try to dodge .. and here it’s no longer easier to be impossible

[seos]

In general, he is seeking a military coup ... and after the election he will try to organize an uprising ... - this is obvious.

[vovanpain]

Quote: Stas157

Grudinin, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just the oligarchs!

Strawberry oligarch certainly comfortable, I do not argue.

[onix757]

Quote: vovanpain

Strawberry oligarch

An oligarch is a very rich person who has many enterprises, business, money, power due to money. A person who subordinates people to himself with money, less often with threats, bribes, forcing him to do what he pleases. Usually there are a lot of oligarchs among the government, the ministry.
Do you have the feeling that the “strawberry oligarch” does not reach the mayors, governors, members of the government, presidential administration and other friends?

[Svarog]

Quote: vovanpain

Quote: Stas157

Grudinin, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just the oligarchs!

Strawberry oligarch certainly comfortable, I do not argue.

Comfortable in this .. argue with this? https://youtu.be/rbRoZyuOijk

[Rash]

For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs!

Unfortunately, the rest ALL do not have land allotments on the edge of Moscow.

[zloybond]

I respect the president for the fact that, unlike some applicants, he does not pour mud on anyone, but expresses hope for common sense, decency ..... there are a lot of candidates for gavnomets, verbiage, whistlers.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Stas157

I would very much like to hope for that! For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING

And is this an adult comment? Infantilism is to the highest degree, as you have learned to write, if you didn’t leave your childhood completely. Read the tales further.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Orionvit

... And this is a comment by an adult? Infantilism is to the highest degree, as you have learned to write, if you didn’t leave your childhood completely. Read more tales ...

Do not bother a colleague.
He reads fairy tales aloud.
During the holidays you can have fun

[Hanokem]

That's right, stas 157, select everything and share it honestly. Why should a businessman get more than a factory worker? Inequality, however ...

[Serge Gorely]

Glory to God - Grudinin DOES NOT SHINE. It may be different in relation to GDP, but against the backdrop of a meeting of clown condates, there is no alternative to it.

[onix757]

Quote: Serge Gorely

Glory to God - Grudinin DOES NOT SHINE.

To vote for those who brought people to poverty is masochism. Do you consider our people masochists?

but against the backdrop of a meeting of clown condates, there is no alternative to him.

What is the "no alternative" to the debate with the "clowns" scared? Maybe because there is nothing to tell the old about their achievements?

[Senior manager]

Quote: Stas157

I would very much like to hope for that! For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs!

Grudinin will come and everything will go to ashes, he, in essence, is not a statesman, and he has the level of director of a state farm. The caliber is not the same. IMHO. I support Golovan Jack - the booth will end, the work will go further.

[ellada]

And Grudinin, do you think this is that person? This is the same Poroshenko. Strawberry Grudinin and chocolate Poroshenko are twins.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Stas157

... Here I would very much like to hope! So that a man like Grudinin would come, so that EVERYTHING would be comfortable, and not just the oligarchs! ...

Grudinin and so comfortable, without your hopes.
Can you tell me how Grudinin differs from the oligarchs? Only without slogans about the mythical millionaire collective farm (of which only a fraction remained, well, by the way - probably withered out), steep salaries (for Grudinin and the family), shareholder-units — the units for which Grudin sold, and the “shareholders” are looking for their units in the courts.
This is by the way.
So, how to link comfort for everyone and specialist in comfort for yourself, Mr. Comrade Grudinin?

[INTER]

Quote: Stas157

Ak Grudinin, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just the oligarchs!

Even if he becomes president, he will not change anything, it will be even worse. To say one thing and do something completely different, the same oligarchs will not immediately give all the stolen goods, but they will organize specific sabotage within the country.

[LSA57]

Quote: hrych

They are predictable, but he is not.

is the ramp predictable? I would not say it seems that his right leg does not know what the left does

[hrych]

Quote: LSA57

is the ramp predictable?

It is predictable for its unpredictability

[Freeman]

Quote: hrych

They are predictable, but he is not.

That you just noticed. How do you like this statement of the President?

President Vladimir Putin, in an interview with NBC, said he could not control the work of all employees of his administration. The transcript is published on the president’s website.

“We have two thousand administration employees, do you really think that I control everyone? There [Dmitry] Peskov sits opposite, my spokesperson, he sometimes carries such a "blizzard", I watch on TV and think: what is he talking about there? Who entrusted him with this? ”Putin said.

Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5aa3c6ea9a79475f8e
925581

[hrych]

The statement is excellent, but Peskov's one place was compressed, possibly forever

[Freeman]

Quote: hrych

The statement is excellent, but Peskov's one place was compressed, possibly forever

So you think that the president’s spokesperson is not a "talking head" - but a "talking ass" ?!
And meanwhile

Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation - A federal state civil servant who directly supervises the presidential press service.
Presidential spokesman is the official voice of the presidentrepresenting his position, as well as the position of the Kremlin in relation to various events, and communicating with the media. / wiki /

That is since May 2012 the "voice of the president" came from "one place" ?!
The logical conclusion is "May decrees of 2012", "snowstorm".

[hrych]

Peskov, of course, has a talking head, but tries to joke unsuccessfully, insert his remarks, has a silly look, has become a public person in relations with Navka, etc. It seems that this was done specifically to misinform the enemy, avert his eyes, give the appearance of liberalism, tolerance, etc., which allowed the Russian Federation to complete the rearmament, to prepare the lightning-fast operations of the Empire. Well, under the monarch, by tradition, there is a jester who is allowed to say what the autocrat is worthless. Against the background of the adoption of the dagger, this insignificant topic is not worth attention.

[Scoun]

Quote: oleg-gr

Provocations from the Western press do not work out very well

She herself admits.

Megin Kelly
American journalist
He is very smart. You get the impression that he is the smartest person in any company. So do not try to overdo it with Vladimir Putin, I don’t think that will work out. But you can try, as I tried in this interview, to make him defend himself a little

But at the expense of the "next" ..... oh, how dumb.
What can I say if even the "tandem" managed to set up a bunch of our citizens against himself in a single period of time.

[New Year day]

Quote: Scoun

"tandem" in one of his time managed to set up a bunch of our citizens against himself.

so that's the point. that he’s in a spark. Will come the same, but the general line will remain unchanged

[seos]

What can I say if even the "tandem" managed to set up a bunch of our citizens against himself in a single period of time.

Choosing the one who gets in tandem ... better to ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: oleg-gr

Provocations in the Western press are not very successful.

And yet they do not leave the dream to destroy Russia! We are still resisting and not bad ..!

[siberalt]

They asked Putin, and he asked again. And from this a whole story? Something, soon we will discuss the whole country with his every hmyk or sneeze.

[seos]

Moreover, the question is adequate - most of our citizens ask themselves this question .... Putin is aging and there is no alternative to him, and all the candidates are “enemies of the people” and “servants of the State Department”

[New Year day]

Quote: seos

Putin is aging and there is no alternative to him, and all the candidates are “enemies of the people” and “servants of the State Department”

why an alternative? We will pray for 50 years as if on the Lenin Mausoleum. Do you remember? "The cause of Lenin is eternal, because it is true." I don’t need an alternative. Putin - to the eternal reign

[Orionvit]

Quote: Silvestr

We will pray for 50 years as if on the Lenin Mausoleum. Do you remember?

Do not breed demagoguery, this time was the peak of the development of the Russian state, no matter how it was called. And no one has reached such heights, from those positions that remained after the revolution and especially after the Great Patriotic War, and probably never will. If the ideologists of "Marxism-Leninism" were not flexible, then the success of the state cannot be denied.

[New Year day]

Quote: Orionvit

this time was the peak of the development of the Russian state

not Russian, but Soviet

[Maz]

If he does not create a system of balances, then there can be a bastard to come to power. But the main violin will be the FSB and GSH. In which case they will spin the combination and bring their normal person from the bottom to the top of power.

[svp67]

Putin - NBC: Why do you think that after me the head of state will be the destroyer?

But vut here only TIME will be able to answer this question ...

[seos]

Not time ... The authorities MUST prepare the receiver - who is he? where is he? ... after Putin put up some sort of Dimon and all full P country ....
The receiver must be prepared in advance to show his people and give to evaluate his actions ...

[New Year day]

Quote: seos

give evaluate his deeds ..

and who is the appraiser? People? Do not make me laugh. Mikhailov Stas propiarite in the right way, and now the president is ready. Or Timati.

[svp67]

Quote: seos

The authorities MUST prepare the receiver - who is he? where is he?

Well prepared by the Communists Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich and WHAT?

[onix757]

Quote: svp67

Well prepared by the Communists Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich and WHAT?

The communists built a great state, thanks to whose heritage the power in the Russian Federation feels safe. And traitors ... traitors have always been, but now they openly occupy high posts in power structures.

[aszzz888]

Why do you think that those people who come to power after mewill want to destroy? Maybe, on the contrary, it will be people who will do their best to make Russia stronger, to make the country for comfortable living for people of all generations.

And surely there is ALREADY a man "after him."

[seos]

Yeah, Sobchak will come out and tell everyone that Putin chose her as his beloved wife ....

[mavrus]

Quote: oleg-gr

Provocations in the Western press are not very successful.

You always need to maintain the illusion that the change will come ... sooner or later. And here they have a great dance, they all remember the 90s well, and we, it seems, began to forget about them.

[PalBor]

After Stalin, Khrushchev came ...
Make no mistake.

[Andryukha G]

Usually impudent, unprincipled and short-sighted ones come to power - like Khrushchev.

[LSA57]

Quote: Andryukha G

Usually impudent, unprincipled and short-sighted ones come to power - like Khrushchev.

humpback was no better

[New Year day]

Quote: Andryukha G

Usually impudent, unprincipled and short-sighted ones come to power - like Khrushchev.

it was with the Union, now- with the help of money, the tricky and dodgy will break through

[seos]

Rather tough and piles of skeletons in the closet ...

[LSA57]

Quote: Silvestr

with the help of money, the cunning and dodgy will break through

Are you talking about sternum? no chance remember the tablet king Bryntsalov. broke off in full

[onix757]

What is the analogy for? Who is Stalin now?

[PalBor]

The analogy is not direct, of course. But strategically ...
It is scary if Medvedev will become president again. Or one of his liberal friends.

[Simon]

Medvedev will not become president and never seems.

[KVU-NSVD]

I think Putin is a very purposeful person and once having embarked on the path of a statesman he will not leave him. And in any case, he thinks about what will happen after. And to save what is done, you need a person with firm, similar views. I think that there is already a candidate (or several candidates) .. And his media and hardware take-off will happen in the next two to three years. Well, Putin will certainly "look after" the first time after the 24th year from the post of some sort of Secretary of the Security Council with advanced functions ..

[New Year day]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

I think Putin is a very motivated person and once embarking on the path of a statesman will not leave him

no doubt

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Well, Putin will certainly "look after" the first time after the 24th year from the post of some sort of Secretary of the Security Council with advanced functions ..

rewrite the constitution again? Putin's ardent admirers say that this is impossible - there are not enough votes in the State Duma

[PalBor]

There is a version that the governor of the Tula region Dyumin. He commanded the GRU special forces when they returned Crimea.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: PalBor

There is a version that the governor of the Tula region Dyumin. He commanded the GRU special forces when they returned Crimea.

Paul ! I welcome you. You can guess as much as you like, and it’s unlikely to guess Putin’s decision in a key moment for him with his Chekist past .. It also seems to me that a lot of young governors from different fields of activity are for a reason a kind of casting .. And I think that the receiver will not be from the "capital" and therefore will require initially some kind of guardianship and corrective advice .. For this Putin will need some immediate but important post after the presidency.

[PalBor]

That's for sure! It’s not in vain that in Ryazan we also “chose” a young one, younger than me. They say from the list of future leaders of Russia. For now, it seems, efficient. Let's see.

[dojjdik]

can be considered "delirium" of course the coming to power of such "creators" as Mr. Gorbachev and "Eltsin" —but it was a fact and that we became half-slaves and hostages of Jewish democracy; we must pay tribute to Putin, he almost managed to reverse the further progress of our Russia to slavery; but a handful of Jews and Britons tirelessly throw a lot of money on the sowing of the "civil" war, so we remember the Chinese tankmen and try, as we can of course, so that Grudinin is not far from the "presidential chair"

[Nyrobsky]

Soon they will take a sip, like we were in the 90s. There will be something to compare. They themselves have already come Trumpets!

[onix757]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Soon they will take a sip, like we were in the 90s. There will be something to compare.

Do you want to know how many hospitals and schools have closed since the early 2000s?

[Orionvit]

Quote: onix757

Do you want to know how many hospitals and schools have closed since the early 2000s?

You think incorrectly, not from the beginning of the 2000s, but from the beginning of the 90s. The problem needs to be addressed from the beginning, not the middle, when the metastases of Western liberal democracy have already taken root. This is how distorting and shuffling the facts distort the overall picture.

[onix757]

Quote: Orionvit

You think incorrectly, not from the beginning of the 2000s, but from the beginning of the 90s.

I correctly count and divide into two periods before and after. So the "before", it was closed 2 times less.

[Dart2027]

Quote: onix757

So the "before", it was closed 2 times less.

And in what condition were closed "after"?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: onix757

Quote: Nyrobsky

Soon they will take a sip, like we were in the 90s. There will be something to compare.

Do you want to know how many hospitals and schools have closed since the early 2000s?

You are talking about the consequences, the root cause of which lies in the 90s. The decline in the birth rate (there was no one to learn at schools) and the overflow of the population (migration) led to an optimization of the staff of teachers and medical staff. Who will keep a school for 15 students or a hospital for 100 people? Hence the association, enlargement, etc. with associated liquidation. Now the reverse process is beginning.

[Yak28]

In the history of Russia there is a very interesting trend, when Russia, the Russian Empire, the USSR is at the peak of development, one step away from victory, Russia commits suicide to the delight of enemies, as in 1991,1917, XNUMX and so on. Then Russia drives itself into such a cesspool of which is chosen for decades, centuries, then Russia again kills itself, and everything is healthy again. Only such a tradition can someday end in disaster, it cannot always be lucky.

[New Year day]

Quote: Yak28

Only such a tradition can ever end in disastrous

after such traditions, the population decreases by several tens of millions

[Orionvit]

Quote: Yak28

one step away from victory then Russia commits suicide

Excuse me to express myself correctly, does not commit suicide, but they are trying to kill her, and by all available means. But something does not work out, like Russia always comes to life after a coma. The most important thing is that attempts to kill Russia will almost always come from the hands of internal enemies, who, under the slogans "about everything good," tear and surrender their homeland to enemies. A thousand times Stalin was right, who cleaned this evil by all means.

[Yak28]

He cleaned it and did not clean it

[Mountain shooter]

Now they have a new "trick" - and no one will come to the polls, everything is clear to everyone ... Well, it just doesn’t work to drive the bear back to the den! And so I want ...

[cats]

They will come. I didn’t go, I didn’t understand why. Now I’m going to, and I’ll take my wife, too, for the first time.
Uncle Volodya needs to be supported. There are too many mishandled Stasikov.

[Serge Gorely]

Quote: Kotovsky

They will come. I didn’t go, I didn’t understand why. Now I’m going to, and I’ll take my wife, too, for the first time.
Uncle Volodya needs to be supported. There are too many mishandled Stasikov.

Ne budem, comrades, call a rhyme for the word stasik ...

[New Year day]

"... those people who will come to power after me ..."
------------------------------------
did not expect, believed that it would be eternal. It turns out that HE is thinking about it! Is he preparing his protégé, like Medvedev?

[Simon]

Enough of the destroyers! Gorbachev and Yeltsin have already gone down in history, leaving behind a hungry, destructive mark. Everywhere in their era, banditry, poverty, corruption, the destruction of the economy and the state developed.

[onix757]

All this continues now. Open the chronicle of incidents in your area.

[onix757]

The program of the candidate from the Communist Party-NPSR there is no alternative. This is the only program that defends the interests of the person of labor, industry, science.

[sergei_55]

The program that slipped the unfinished oligarch?

[Serg65]

Quote: onix757

There is no alternative to the Communist Party candidate-NPSR program

Does this candidate have a program?

Quote: onix757

the only program that defends the interests of the person of labor, industry, science.

100 years have passed, and the slogans are still the same !!!!!!

[Cube123]

Quote: Serg65

100 years have passed, and the slogans are still the same !!!!!!

Manuals rarely rewrite

[Serg65]

Quote: Cube123

Manuals rarely rewrite

Here is the people! Money for the correction of tasks is a pity, but they take out the country and put it down!

[vladimirvn]

Each device that works poorly, after eliminating all its shortcomings, ceases to work at all.

[K.A.S.]

You can argue for a long time and wonder who will come in the place of Putin and what will change! Be right or make mistakes!
I can say for sure one thing that there will be no return to the USSR. It is not unpleasant to listen to all the moaning in the USSR. No one will cancel the results of privatization, and so on that promise. Russia (and us) is now just ahead! And who will come depends on us! So take the fights!

[Simon]

Quote: dojjdik

can be considered "delirium" of course the coming to power of such "creators" as Mr. Gorbachev and "Eltsin" —but it was a fact and that we became half-slaves and hostages of Jewish democracy; we must pay tribute to Putin, he almost managed to reverse the further progress of our Russia to slavery; but a handful of Jews and Britons tirelessly throw a lot of money on the sowing of the "civil" war, so we remember the Chinese tankmen and try, as we can of course, so that Grudinin is not far from the "presidential chair"

I do not believe Grudinin! A person who holds his capital abroad will always be dependent on those states where he keeps his capital. No real communists now! The real communists were in the Stalin era - they were always the first to go into battle.

[onix757]

Quote: Simon

I do not believe Grudinin! A person who holds his capital abroad will always be dependent on those states where he keeps his capital.

Well firstly, the legislation is not prohibited
secondly he is not a civil servant
thirdly, this amount can hardly be called serious capital
in 4 accounts are closed

No real communists now! The real communists were in the Stalin era - they were always the first to go into battle.

And he is not a member of the Communist Party, but people decided that he should go first and be the conductor of the program from the Communist Party-NPS

[Serg65]

Quote: onix757

And he is not a member of the Communist Party but people decided

What kind of people are they ???

[onix757]

Prevoters

[Orionvit]

Quote: Serg65

What kind of people are they ???

Yes, you know them, the same ones who organized a bourgeois revolution in Russia in 1916, armed Hitler for a war with Russia, killed Stalin, destroyed the Soviet Union, and now the waters are muddled, and not only in Russia but around the world. And you always did this, yes you know them, it’s just not customary to talk about it and immediately ridiculed the "conspiracy theory." An interesting question is, all over the world, political intrigues, wars, conspiracies, coups, and no one is behind this? So the boy Grudinin appeared from nowhere, supposedly from the depths of the Communist Party.

[Serg65]

Quote: Orionvit

Yes you know them

Of course I know, well, I would like to hear sincerely

[cats]

Quote: onix757

Well firstly, the legislation is not prohibited
secondly he is not a civil servant
thirdly, this amount can hardly be called serious capital
in 4 accounts are closed

Anyway .. Who cares ... The main thing is not the terrible Putin ..
And then you understand, I can’t sleep .. I can’t eat .. even my wife looks like him ...

[Simon]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

I think Putin is a very purposeful person and once having embarked on the path of a statesman he will not leave him. And in any case, he thinks about what will happen after. And to save what is done, you need a person with firm, similar views. I think that there is already a candidate (or several candidates) .. And his media and hardware take-off will happen in the next two to three years. Well, Putin will certainly "look after" the first time after the 24th year from the post of some sort of Secretary of the Security Council with advanced functions ..

I think that he will leave the receiver after himself.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Simon

he will definitely leave the receiver

[Simon]

Quote: Andryukha G

Usually impudent, unprincipled and short-sighted ones come to power - like Khrushchev.

I want to add more - power-hungry, people who are eager for power. They can promise the people anything they want, and they will do everything in return!

[samarin1969]

Again Megin Kelly? ... Interview strictly for a Russian user with Herbert Wells dressing in a skirt. Americans absolutely do not care what this "incomprehensible Russian" says.

[cradle]

Quote: Stas157

Putin: Why do you think that those people who come to power after me will want to destroy? Maybe, on the contrary, it will be people who will do their best to make Russia stronger, to make the country for comfortable living for people of all generations.

I would very much like to hope for that! For a man like Grudinin to come, to be comfortable with EVERYTHING, and not just oligarchs!

Say funny things .... he won’t hatch the eyes of the oligarchs

[Senior manager]

Quote: besik

Say funny things .... he won’t hatch the eyes of the oligarchs

And why are the oligarchs blind, the ability to control consists precisely in the fact that the oligarchs lay golden eggs in the state. a basket. I don’t remember in what article V.I. Lenin said (not a quote) - one must achieve the set goals in the existing conditions and with the people they are. In my opinion, the President succeeds at the very least, progress is visible.

[SCHNIFER]

What next? Where are these eggs further? Why are tens of millions below the poverty line? Or ant eggs?

[rocket757]

It may not be tomorrow already, but in principle I wonder who is next?
Two consecutive goats corrupt, we have already passed! Next time, how will it be?

[Sverdlov]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Looks like, looks like ... even like looks ... Alchen typical

We remember closely Twain and the American election of the governors ...: "

[Sverdlov]

Quote: Simon

Quote: KVU-NSVD

I think Putin is a very purposeful person and once having embarked on the path of a statesman he will not leave him. And in any case, he thinks about what will happen after. And to save what is done, you need a person with firm, similar views. I think that there is already a candidate (or several candidates) .. And his media and hardware take-off will happen in the next two to three years. Well, Putin will certainly "look after" the first time after the 24th year from the post of some sort of Secretary of the Security Council with advanced functions ..

I think that he will leave the receiver after himself.

No, he will become vice president with the right of first signature ... :)

[Simon]

Quote: onix757

All this continues now. Open the chronicle of incidents in your area.

What Gorbachev and Yeltsin lit up is not so easy to eliminate. So that much time will pass, while all this is eliminated. By the way, Gorbachev and Yeltsin were the same communists, well, what did they lead to! My parents were communists, my father fought, all of the wounded came from the war, my mother was a production leader and a veteran. Well, now the Communists are transferring their capital to foreign banks. In general, normal communists seem to never be there.

[Simon]

Quote: onix757

Quote: Simon

I do not believe Grudinin! A person who holds his capital abroad will always be dependent on those states where he keeps his capital.

Well firstly, the legislation is not prohibited
secondly he is not a civil servant
thirdly, this amount can hardly be called serious capital
in 4 accounts are closed

No real communists now! The real communists were in the Stalin era - they were always the first to go into battle.

And he is not a member of the Communist Party, but people decided that he should go first and be the conductor of the program from the Communist Party-NPS

So far, better than Putin, I don’t see anyone!

[Simon]

Quote: vladimirvn

Each device that works poorly, after eliminating all its shortcomings, ceases to work at all.

Depends on who eliminates these shortcomings! If a knowledgeable person who correctly put everything in place, then the mechanism will work well!

[populist]

Putin - NBC: Why do you think that after me the head of state will be the destroyer?

And there are no creators in the environment, all around there are only cool ... invaders and managers.

[mavrus]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

And, that is, it suited you as in the 90s, "they all took away about divided"? You are probably one of those who turned out to be in the stake then?

Here I agree, it can be divided in different ways. It is possible as communists, "to each according to his work." And it is possible, and as liberals with skakuasy, that I was able to snatch from society, then yours.

[friend of animals]

When a bet is placed on one person, a lot depends on his personal qualities. Destroyer in such a situation sooner or later appears. This has happened more than once in the history of Russia. Unlike the USSR or the United States, we do not have a state ideology, there are no basic principles on which the state is built. Unless "fill your pockets while you can." We now have all the wisdom coming from the leader, even decisions at the local level are made after appeals to the president. And such a situation now exists in many former republics. What will happen, for example, with countries when Lukashenko or Nazarbayev leave?

[Senior manager]

If they go to Putin’s rule, then it could cost. I share your gloomy fears.

[Hadji Murat]

predictable questions and predictable answers

[Lena Petrova]

You just need to remember the time when the GDP came to power. And compare with the present. Remember the army, its equipment, the country's position in the international arena. North Caucasus recall. Crimea, and there living. Gold and foreign exchange reserves (10 billion in 7 for those with little memory).
Yes, it could be done, perhaps somehow faster and more productively, but who can do it, within the framework of a non-Stalinist dictatorship? Sobchak? Or Alyoshenka Navalny? I think that in a year we will return to 99. Time Machine. Better a tit in a hand ...

[Ivan.A]

They almost embarrassed by the lips of their media voiced their long-standing dreams of the destruction of the Russian world. Just the current interpretation tells us that outwardly they can’t do anything, therefore they are looking for internal traitors and, to see a lot of money, has been thrown at it.
PS I’m satisfied with the hysteria of the media!

[razved]

Putin - NBC: Why do you think that after me the head of state will be the destroyer?

Because they really want it!

[Serg65]

onix757,

Quote: onix757

Do we enter the top ten or fly out?

Yes, you have never been in the top ten to fly out of it! You win the election and slide down to the 186 and everything will start all over again! It's a shame for the Fatherland !!!

[sib.ataman]

If the entire current establishment is 100%, including the GDP itself, the scum of the Yeltsin era, and all the laws and constitutions were written by them for themselves, then what do you want? Equality? Justice? So the "top Rasseysky" also wants equality with the bourgeois West. And Amer’s bourgeoisie are surprised no less than yours! What kind of equality-partnership are all these upstarts talking about, which our guys from Langley and the State Department brought to the corridors of power? And there we are mumbling something about democracy, the rule of law. Comrade Stalin said that democracy is the power of the American people! So you draw conclusions! Who are you with? For Russia with its people, or for democracy?

[Secretparadox]

Of course, it will be difficult to destroy what Putin created - a backward country with no medicine, education, 20 million below the poverty line and one of the largest gaps between rich and poor in the world.

[Romulus]

Quote: Silvestr

. Mikhailova Stas

Force) Well, what can I talk about with trololo? guy svom 11,8 p earned ...

[petrol cutter]

Stop destroying !!! Need to build! They were going to destroy me ...
It’s necessary to kill such destroyers. As Comrade Bender taught. And he said a lot of clever things.

[Kuzyakin15]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: onix757

Quote: Nyrobsky

Soon they will take a sip, like we were in the 90s. There will be something to compare.

Do you want to know how many hospitals and schools have closed since the early 2000s?

You are talking about the consequences, the root cause of which lies in the 90s. The decline in the birth rate (there was no one to learn at schools) and the overflow of the population (migration) led to an optimization of the staff of teachers and medical staff. Who will keep a school for 15 students or a hospital for 100 people? Hence the association, enlargement, etc. with associated liquidation. Now the reverse process is beginning.

Have you been in a polyclinic for a long time? Probably a long time ago. So go, for the sake of comparison with the same 90mi. Try to get a specialist. And this is not in some godforsaken village, but a city with a population of about 400000 people.

[Essex62]

All foreigners are completely pointless. Putin, Grudinin, someone else from a bunch of candidates ... What difference does it? Neither Zu, nor his nominee G. have any idea of ​​the class struggle, on which the ideology of communism, the primacy of the man of labor is based, The revolutionary situation has not matured. That's when% 80 of the population is impoverished to an extreme state, and even against the background of some protracted, real war. Then it will strike. Until the aligarhat cleverly balances, not reaching the extreme.
Leaders are needed for everything, the anal one somehow does not fit and does not look like Ilyich and Lev Bronstein. Not to mention Zu and G.

[Essex62]

Quote: Simon

Quote: onix757

All this continues now. Open the chronicle of incidents in your area.

What Gorbachev and Yeltsin lit up is not so easy to eliminate. So that much time will pass, while all this is eliminated. By the way, Gorbachev and Yeltsin were the same communists, well, what did they lead to! My parents were communists, my father fought, all of the wounded came from the war, my mother was a production leader and a veteran. Well, now the Communists are transferring their capital to foreign banks. In general, normal communists seem to never be there.

A hunchbacked communist has never been. Sent Cossack, very successfully clinging to a position in the Central Committee, the evil pin. The masses pissed with boiling water with delight when, having ditched Andropov and Chernenko, they shoved him on a Kremlin stool. And the ideological stranglehold then could not be weakened. Our people began to doubt the postulate - "You can’t be rich." of life. Slowly, coughing up resistance at key places in the party apparatus, office, and army, they led the country to a barry coup.

[Forever so]

My friend, at least you will learn the materiel, it was the androps who promoted the hunchback, as part of the bourgeois coup that he was preparing. But he himself died, or he was harassed just like he poisoned and killed Masherov, Ustinov and others, this is already a question for impudent people or amers, with whom Kalugin had a particularly close relationship.

[Forever so]

That Comrade Stalin would come and return state capitalism. With its broadest social guarantees and a powerful private industrial sector. That's how the current market liberals so cunningly circumvent this issue, trying to spit on Stalin, and only thanks to private business, Russia was recovering so quickly after the war, but corn broke everything. Well, to fight corruption, Lavrenty Pavlovich is urgently needed.

[Nasty]

This is their secret dream. But- break off!

[Seraphimamur]

This is scary. The history of Russia is such a sinusoid up and down. Apparently, the president needs to wait for a person like Navalny or Sobchak. Let's live. And now someone is feeling bad.

[cradle]

Quote: St. Propulsion

Quote: besik

Say funny things .... he won’t hatch the eyes of the oligarchs

And why are the oligarchs blind, the ability to control consists precisely in the fact that the oligarchs lay golden eggs in the state. a basket. I don’t remember in what article V.I. Lenin said (not a quote) - one must achieve the set goals in the existing conditions and with the people they are. In my opinion, the President succeeds at the very least, progress is visible.

And I do not dispute the president’s ability to make them lay golden eggs in state. bast basket. Therefore, he has already voted for him on a shift already. I am for a stable and developing Russia!

[cradle]

Quote: Alex-a832

Quote: Svarog

What are you talking about ... as if you live in England .. it’s enough to go outside and everything will become clear ..

Apparently you lived in England, or you live - you know better. And I have a similar picture on any surrounding streets: clean streets, parking lots are chock full of personal cars with the predominance of foreign cars, mostly not older than 10 years. A lot of kids are playing, a lot of mothers with babies, the city continues to be built. The super and hypermarkets are full of people, the counters are full of products and things for any income. Drunkards and paupers are not noticeable, although they are found. Demonstrations, pickets, barricades are not visible. People are resting with a completely satisfied look. Maybe I'm really in England, and not in a poor and backward, as you say, Russia?

I absolutely support you! Fantasies about rotting Russia have already gotten!

[SCHNIFER]

This time I’ll definitely go to vote and support the left. I carefully read the entire branch, a lot of arguments and counterarguments, all of them are important, because the devil is in the details. But one thing is decisive for me: it’s enough to see what really happens to society according to the same figures of official power — the middle class is rapidly melting away, an increasing number of ordinary people are not living in poverty — in poverty, especially families with children, their number is steady grows, mana and berg steadily storm the next Forbes heights. Undoubted progress in improving defense capability - but at whose expense? Due to the impoverishment of the majority? So on whose side is power playing? The time has come to stand up for justice within a legal framework, of course. Peace to the peoples, land to the peasants, factories to the workers, all power to the soviets!

[Hiw]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Golovan Jack

But the oligarchs-too ???

Yes. On a universal basis!

Then it will not be Baba Yaga against you, but alligarchs so beloved by you

Quote: Stas157

how does this happen under mr Putin

Be scared.
Continue better advertising G., you have one week left.

Speaking to you, you separate people like me from those who don’t understand that I don’t have work in the village, 18 years ago I was still there, now they destroyed it and the Chinese, according to the law of the ASEZ (territories of advanced development), take everything out of our taiga, of course starting from the forest, and the population can’t buy firewood or buys in a tri-road. You contrast us, those who have paid medicine, education that is above average paid (and secondary partially paid), you know who they are, who knows - maybe in Moscow with an average wage in Moscow at 50-60 tr it’s good for you, but here in the villages the population is dying. So shut up and don't gloat. And also - I invite you to my village, in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, I will show you the reality of what Putin’s politics brought to, and by asking people you will find out how they lived here to Putin

[cradle]

Quote: HIW

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Golovan Jack

But the oligarchs-too ???

Yes. On a universal basis!

Then it will not be Baba Yaga against you, but alligarchs so beloved by you

Quote: Stas157

how does this happen under mr Putin

Be scared.
Continue better advertising G., you have one week left.

Speaking to you, you separate people like me from those who don’t understand that I don’t have work in the village, 18 years ago I was still there, now they destroyed it and the Chinese, according to the law of the ASEZ (territories of advanced development), take everything out of our taiga, of course starting from the forest, and the population can’t buy firewood or buys in a tri-road. You contrast us, those who have paid medicine, education that is above average paid (and secondary partially paid), you know who they are, who knows - maybe in Moscow with an average wage in Moscow at 50-60 tr it’s good for you, but here in the villages the population is dying. So shut up and don't gloat. And also - I invite you to my village, in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, I will show you the reality of what Putin’s politics brought to, and by asking people you will find out how they lived here to Putin

I’m sure that it wasn’t better before Putin (if you recall EBN).