The last of the prototypes of the Su-57 arrived at the tests in Zhukovsky

The latest prototype fifth-generation fighter Su-57 (PAK FA) began testing at the airfield in Zhukovsky, Interfax reports citing a source in aviation industry.

On the eve of the prototype Su-57 under the serial number T-50-10 arrived from Komsomolsk-on-Amur in LII them. Gromova for flight tests

- Said the agency interlocutor.

He recalled that this fighter, the last of the prototypes of the PAK FA, for the first time took off 23 December 2017 from the airfield of Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant (KnAAZ, branch of PJSC "Sukhoi").

According to the source, the plant has now begun to manufacture units for Su-57 production aircraft. As expected, a contract will soon be signed with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the manufacture of an installation batch of fifth-generation fighters from 12 units.

As previously reported, the military has already begun pilot operation of the fifth generation fighter.

In addition, it is planned to conclude a contract for the manufacture of the Su-57 installation batch of 12 pieces. These fighters will be produced in serial form, but with the engines of the previous generation. The engine of the "second stage" (product 30), which will provide the Su-57 supersonic cruising speed without boost, began flight tests in December 2017 of the year. It is expected that the test program will take about three years.

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[ancestors from Don]

Now they’ll break in in Syria in combat conditions, make the necessary amendments and there will be what the “doctor prescribed”.

[KVU-NSVD]

Shoigu said long ago that the 57th stay in Syria flew back for two days.

Quote: Ancestors from the Don

Now they’ll break in in Syria in combat conditions, make the necessary amendments and there will be what the “doctor prescribed”.

[svp67]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Shoigu said long ago that the 57th stay in Syria flew back for two days.

The main thing is they showed their capabilities a little bit. They made a rustle ....

[dog breeder]

svp67
Quote: KVU-NSVD
Shoigu said long ago that the 57th stay in Syria flew back for two days.
The main thing is they showed their capabilities a little bit. They made a rustle ..
Share the details!

[svp67]

Quote: dog breeder

Share the details!

They are really very few. All the noise from the Israelis, who announced that in one of the flights of the Su-57 was fired by hypersonic missiles on Eastern Guta ... so much so that the Israelis detected take-off, flight and return, and that two Barmalei objects were destroyed at that time in East Ghouta. The commotion was caused by the fact that the missile flight was not detected, from which they concluded that the new hypersonic weapons of the Russians.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: svp67

All the noise from the Israelis, who announced that in one of the flights Su-57 fired at Hyundai hypersonic missiles ... so much so that the Israelis spotted take-off, flight and return, and that two Barmalei objects were destroyed at that time in East Ghouta. The commotion was caused by the fact that the missile flight was not detected, from which they concluded about the new hypersonic weapons of the Russians.

It's fake.

[svp67]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

It's fake.

Are you talking about Su-57?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Aron Zaavi

It's fake.

Are you talking about Su-57?

Not . The fact that these rumors came from Israel.

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

It's fake.

then give your information what you saw

[Lex.]

do you really think that a bunch of terrorists will launch a hypersonic missile for the sake of testing?

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: Lex.

do you really think that a bunch of terrorists will launch a hypersonic missile for the sake of testing?

I just don’t think, most likely the guidance system was run

[Lex.]

This can be

[Vittt]

It’s a bunch of shit that they’re testing such weapons, not for you.

[Berkut24]

They have photos from some private satellite, as there were 4 multi-colored airplanes parked in a bunch in a pile. Although, according to Shoigu, at that time there were 2 of them and both stood in a closed hangar. But the photoshopper did not even know. But made a noise. And the Americans said that they removed all the characteristics from the “guests”, though their F-22 flights were banned these days. But if Israel were silent about their "successes," I would be very surprised.

[voyaka uh]

There are no closed hangars on Hmeimim. There are generally no shelters for aircraft. They stand tight in the open air and are perfectly visible from satellites.

[user1212]

Quote: voyaka uh

There are no shelters for aircraft at all.

Yeah. All technical regulations directly on the strip

[Vittt]

Well, do not voice nonsense, Field Marshal! Jews "are just pissed and fucked up stand and tremble." What did you spot there? Go, wash yourself with cold water.
I want to see Putin's face during this triumph!

[Beltasir matyagu]

This is not a maize to detect takeoff, flight and launch of anything, except under the condition of constant visual observation of it through a video camera.

[mvg]

It’s like an adult, but you believe in fairy tales ... They’re “invisible”, how did the Jews spot them? )))) Yes, and even with the Wunder-fafly missiles ...

[iliitchitch]

Quote: dog breeder

Share the details!

Not with life. A black cloak on the wings of the night. Welded the necessary things, and screwed, what else is needed?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: svp67

The main thing is they showed their capabilities a little bit. They made a rustle ....

who rustle and what showed ??

[sapporo1959]

Why are you comrade so straightforward overseas not understanding there? We have elections no matter how .. Here and gave a rustle to the voter!

[next322]

Quote: svp67

“The main thing is they showed their capabilities a little bit. They made a rustle ....


and what rustle did they bring in for 2 days of stay?)))))) flew in and out

[UAZ 452]

And you can clarify: on whom did they show their combat capabilities there?

[Hanokem]

That's what I admire the SU-57 for is that its development goes absolutely smoothly, no malfunctions or shortcomings (not matching the flying iron and the F-35 prodigy wafer) ... I envy you in a good, human way ...

[jaroff]

Holy naivety! Continue to admire. In fact, like everything new, is given by the enormous work of many people of various labor collectives. With various kinds of errors and "rake". Just one example: back to the years of proven alcohol tank for the windshield de-icing system. Initially, it was not envisaged on the Su-35 t on the T50 either. Life has shown that it is better to leave the tank.
And this is just one example.

[210ox]

Why? Once the engine at the start became ...

Quote: Hanokem

That's what I admire the SU-57 for is that its development goes absolutely smoothly, no malfunctions or shortcomings (not matching the flying iron and the F-35 prodigy wafer) ... I envy you in a good, human way ...

[mvg]

Those. accident and fire do not count? All according to plan?

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Hanokem

That's what I admire the SU-57 for is that its development goes absolutely smoothly, no malfunctions or shortcomings (not matching the flying iron and the F-35 prodigy wafer) ... I envy you in a good, human way ...

Good trollmanit, comrade. Everything is normal, and we will have a child prodigy.

[Vittt]

And you are a troll cunning, smiles to you grandfather Makar

[Vadim237]

Only the budget will not pull - 150 aircraft and all.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Vadim237

150 aircraft and all

Pobole, without panic.

[fa2998]

My bet is up to 100 (serial), and it will already be 30-35 years, if they don’t refuse before.

[Lex.]

Pull not in a year they will be built

[Vadim237]

Only now the price of 4 billion rubles apiece - says the opposite.

[Beltasir matyagu]

This is the price for the "sale" and not for the Ministry of Defense clearly. Putin even organizes special banks for the defense industry so that zero infa goes out. Do not shine any amount or volume.
If a defense company uses accounts with other banks, then intelligence will learn all about the affairs of the enterprise. All merge.
And here, relatively speaking, the bank under the cap of the FSB.

[NN52]

Beltasir matyagu

Why are you all smoking there today? Or didn’t they leave March 8?
Take the calculator and get 66 000 000 Baku ,,,
How much is fu 35?

[Beltasir matyagu]

Can you read? Or think with your head? The data on the cost of a pitchfork on water is written

[Vadim237]

Su 35 costs 2 billion - and Su 57 is a new car, avionics, materials, drives, engines, and the result is 4 billion - along with weapons.

[NN52]

Vadim237

Have you learned to subtly troll? Convert to foreign currency at the exchange rate ...
And then tell me about the price ...
And compare with the prices of competitors ....
And then tell everyone here ///

[Lex.]

Is the su-35 much cheaper?

[NN52]

Lex.

Yes, and here Su 35 ...
It is clear that 57 will be much more expensive ...
It’s just that someone must definitely name the figure with billions, for the sake of greater importance, apparently ... And even more so taken from the ceiling ...
The cost even while the Moscow Region does not know, and Vadim 237 knows ...
And if a colleague knows, then let him compare prices with competitors, and not engage in idle talk ...

[Vadim237]

"The cost even while the MO does not know." - If they didn’t know, hell would be included in the state armament program. The price tag for 4 billion - from the manufacturer.

[NN52]

Vadim237

Who are you mowing for?
Pzhl name the price in dollars <euro for 57 and compare pzhl with western aircraft ...
Make a comparison chart for cost, if you can of course ...
And then make a conclusion.

Don't you understand at all?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Expensive of course .. But it flies and not bad !! We'll see ..

Quote: svp67

They are really very few. All the noise from the Israelis, who announced that in one of the flights of the Su-57 was fired by hypersonic missiles on the Eastern Guta ...

Fear has big eyes .. hehe
But everything can be!

[Vittt]

What will break in? Praise God that he did not fall at all. For 2 days in Syria, he, of course, he ran into the US radar and electronic warfare. No place for him there NOW!

[Sadko88]

It is believed that the videoconferencing is not just called the videoconferencing

[d1975]

By right, you're right. The birds themselves can’t do anything. Around a lot of intersections. The main result. Thank God, Taburetkin showed all r ... about in our army. May this never happen again. And a person in uniform should be, and let him always be respected! At least in the VKS, at least in the bath-laundry unit!

[Hanokem]

A doctor or teacher should be respected less than a person in uniform?

[210ox]

Is the T50 already in space?

Quote: Sadko88

It is believed that the videoconferencing is not just called the videoconferencing

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: 210ox

Is the T50 already in space?

MIG-41 is sharpened for this, but this is so in 10 years

[Reserve buildbat]

You do not know where you can buy such a model? And when they were in stores, I laughed, because such an aircraft never existed, but now it would be gorgeous to put it next to C-37 and T-50

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: Stroibat stock

You do not know where you can buy such a model?

I’m not doing modeling, but I think you can find in nete, I think they will be on the same alik

[iliitchitch]

Quote: 210ox

Is the T50 already in space?

Damn, when will we be in subspace? From "a" to "b" the shortest, shortest.
Here to "chick", and without a bazaar. Then it will be possible to talk with neighbors in the Galaxy not at the level of plumbing.

[svp67]

On the eve of the prototype Su-57 under the serial number T-50-10 arrived from Komsomolsk-on-Amur in LII them. Gromova for flight tests

I understand this is already pre-production? In his image and likeness they will already be releasing a series ...

[tchoni]

Good luck. Let the number of take-offs and landings be equal.
In the end, I want to believe that the fighter will finally get into the army ... and not by 2045 ... but even if they are actively promising us all, by 25 mu.

[Herman 4223]

By the twenty fifth they will definitely be, the question is how much? There will be thirty of them, in the best case, this is not serious.

[210ox]

And with the engines of the "second stage" .. And not with the data that is being installed now.

Quote: tchoni

Good luck. Let the number of take-offs and landings be equal.
In the end, I want to believe that the fighter will finally get into the army ... and not by 2045 ... but even if they are actively promising us all, by 25 mu.

[Falcond]

So already they put the second stage ... there were messages

[tchoni]

Quote: 210ox

And with the engines of the "second stage" .. And not with the data that is being installed now.

I would also like the second stage on the engines. But, this, in my opinion, is not very critical. It is much more interesting to see a normally working electronic filling and decent long-range air-to-air missiles ... And if they also optimize its reflectivity by applying various RPPs, by metallizing the lamp of the cockpit ... and other activities - it will be yours

[iliitchitch]

Quote: tchoni

and not by 2045 ... but although bah to 25 mu, as we all are actively promising.

Why so sad? Dvigun podshamanit, and we will Product. This thing will then reign in the air for another 30 years until our gravitsappu is muddied.

[san4es]

Currently, the plant has begun manufacturing units for serial Su-57 aircraft.

[Falcond]

I repeat maybe

[san4es]

Quote: FalconD

... I repeat maybe

The composition of the Sh-121 radar system includes: the front-view antenna system Н036-1-01, the L-range antenna system Н036L-1-01 and the side-view antenna systems - Н036Б-1-01Л and Н036Б-1-01Б.
Characteristics Radar H036 Protein
- Number of PPM: 1526 pcs
- Antenna blade size: 700 × 900 mm
As of 2015: the radar consists of a promising X-band AFAR in the bow compartment, two side-view radars, as well as an L-band AFAR along the flaps.
- The Su-57 has a special infrared detection radar and is already being manufactured with it, and the F-22 is only planned to be equipped with a similar system in 2020.

http://oruzhie.info/voennye-samolety/46-t-50

[voyaka uh]

So will he go into series with the new AFAR or with the same radar as the Su-35?

[Voyager]

With his new AFAR.

[Voenoboz]

Let the falcons go for it.

[senima56]

I think that while there is no “second stage engine” on the SU-57, you cannot call this aircraft a “5th generation fighter”! Without a new engine, he does not reach the 5th!

[SETTGF]

Then the F-35 (USA) is also not a 5th generation fighter because of its speed ...

[Muvka]

The F-35 also does not have cruising supersonic. But it is called a 5th generation airplane.

[voyaka uh]

F-35 gives cruising supersonic 1,2 MAX for 400 km.

[Starlei.ura]

Cruising this means without afterburner, the fu-35 does not have it, and by such characteristics as rate of climb and acceleration it does not even pull 4 ++.

[Piramidon]

Quote: senima56

I think that while there is no “second stage engine” on the SU-57, you cannot call this aircraft a “5th generation fighter”! Without a new engine, he does not reach the 5th!

At least we have an experienced engine and it is being tested. The Chinese, as I understand it, do not even plan to put something like that on their Chengdu J-20, but they still have the 5th generation.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Piramidon

At least we have an experienced engine and it is being tested. The Chinese, as I understand it, do not even plan to put something like that on their Chengdu J-20, but they still have the 5th generation.

some generation of shmokolenie. What difference does it make? One thing is clear that invisible pregnant penguins will not climb into our air defense zone, because it’s scary, but the Papuans will have a nightmare, for which they were created.

[Sadko88]

Quote: 210ox

Is the T50 already in space?

Quote: Sadko88

It is believed that the videoconferencing is not just called the videoconferencing

The president just would not announce new engines. Again, why did you call the videoconferencing? The moon is a priori ours ;-)

[Don]

Quote: Sadko88

The president just would not announce new engines. Again, why did you call the videoconferencing? The moon is a priori ours ;-)

Oh, I envy you, everything is fine with you, everything is pink. No wonder they say, you know less - more happy

[shuravi]

The author (through F), you yourself, the latter. And the plane is extreme.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: shuravi

The author (through F), you yourself, the latter. And the plane is extreme.

Extreme of course ..! Last, there is no such thing in aviation .. and it cannot be ..!
Not everyone knows just ..

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: MIKHAN

Last, there is no such thing in aviation .. and it cannot be ..!
Not everyone knows just ..

Vitalka, what did he post then he understood? ..... and where is the concept of “last”? ....

[Reserve buildbat]

And what doesn’t suit you? Last of EXPERIMENTAL SAMPLES. Next will go serial)

[Reserve buildbat]

"The engine of the" second stage "(30 product), which will provide the Su-57 supersonic cruising speed without afterburner, began flight tests in December 2017 of the year."
It seems that last year they wrote that afterburning supersound was achieved on the engines of the first stage, simply not as fast as in terms of technical specifications, which should be done with the engines of the second stage. I don `t understand...

[Voyager]

That's right you understand, just scribblers and some commentators carry the same blizzard. Engines of the second stage will NOT give a significant increase, they will sooner be more economical and durable than those available today.

[K-50]

The last of the prototypes of the fifth generation fighter Su-57 (PAK FA) began testing at the airfield in Zhukovsky

What about the engines? The first or second stage?

[Piramidon]

Quote: K-50

What about the engines? The first or second stage?

Below the title in the article everything is written clearly.

production of an installation batch of Su-57 from 12 pieces. These fighters will be available in serial form, but with previous generation engines. The engine of the "second stage" (product 30), which will provide the Su-57 supersonic cruising speed without afterburner, began flight tests in December 2017. It is expected that the test program will take about three years.

[Alexander Akul]

HOW everything is very slow. 3 years to test the engine, approximately 21-22 years. They will go into series with these engines, by the year 25 they will build a maximum of 30 pieces and what is normal? But it began to be developed back in the early 5s. Americans already have hundreds of XNUMXth generation aircraft. In short, as always, cheap show-offs of Russia.

[serge siberian]

The fifth-generation classified fighter is seen in the sky over Novosibirsk
08.03.2018
There is a photo there. They are already 12 pieces ready, well, read there. And judging by the fact that they are posting about it, the plane is very good. Yes, and there are no analogues.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Alexander Akul

HOW everything is very slow. 3 years to test the engine, approximately 21-22 years. They will go into series with these engines, by the year 25 they will build a maximum of 30 pieces and what is normal? But it began to be developed back in the early 5s. Americans already have hundreds of XNUMXth generation aircraft. In short, as always, cheap show-offs of Russia.

Ponte is at the "partners", and very expensive. As they say - hurry up, make people laugh! Everything will be without unnecessary fuss, here it would still be to break through the current laws against corruption, and not the current decorative ones, then you can look at the developments of m. force and not only for PAK FA!

[xant]

all SU-57!

[nik13]

after 8 years, the source is accepted. 6 generations ...

[Prokhor80]

Quote: Vadim237

Only now the price of 4 billion rubles apiece - says the opposite.

maybe 4 trillion? what really there ...

[Vadim237]

You can indulge as much as you want - 4 billion price from the manufacturer.

[Aloemc]

How I envy fighter pilots. Fly on such a beauty .. indescribably simple.


It seems to me, or will the Su-35 have better maneuverability?

[UAZ 452]

Quote: Hanokem

That's what I admire the SU-57 for is that its development goes absolutely smoothly, no malfunctions or shortcomings (not matching the flying iron and the F-35 prodigy wafer) ... I envy you in a good, human way ...

Actually, it’s not so important whether you won at Waterloo or not, it’s much more important to have such media so that France doesn’t even know about the defeat at Waterloo (this is from an old joke, if that).

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: svp67

All the noise from the Israelis, who announced that in one of the flights Su-57 fired at Hyundai hypersonic missiles ... so much so that the Israelis spotted take-off, flight and return, and that two Barmalei objects were destroyed at that time in East Ghouta. The commotion was caused by the fact that the missile flight was not detected, from which they concluded about the new hypersonic weapons of the Russians.

It's fake.

Yes it’s clear, so screw up with a blue-star.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Lex.

do you really think that a bunch of terrorists will launch a hypersonic missile for the sake of testing?

But with expensive rockets, you’re knocking down Hezbollah’s rusty crafts.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: voyaka uh

There are no closed hangars on Hmeimim. There are generally no shelters for aircraft. They stand tight in the open air and are perfectly visible from satellites.

Sometimes I like the naivete of our "partners."

[Vittt]

Quote: NN52

Lex.

Yes, and here Su 35 ...
It is clear that 57 will be much more expensive ...
It’s just that someone must definitely name the figure with billions, for the sake of greater importance, apparently ... And even more so taken from the ceiling ...
The cost even while the Moscow Region does not know, and Vadim 237 knows ...
And if a colleague knows, then let him compare prices with competitors, and not engage in idle talk ...

Then why are you doing idle talk.