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USS USS Nimitz (CVN 68) aircraft carrier rose for repair

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The USS Nimitz lead naval aircraft carrier (CVN 68) embarked on the dry dock of the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, Wash., Reports "Warspot" with a link to the portal navaltoday.com.


Planned overhaul of the aircraft carrier should be completed in May 2019, when the ship will be released for testing. Planned modernization and repair of control systems, protection of the hull, combat systems, lifts and elevators - the total amount of work is estimated at 315 000 man-hours.

USS USS Nimitz (CVN 68) aircraft carrier rose for repair


In all likelihood, this repair will be one of the last for USS Nimitz. With the new equipment and significant modernization of several elements of the ship, including the work on preserving its hull, the aircraft carrier will receive a reserve for continued service
- told Brian Fazio, project leader for the modernization of the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz.

Carriers such as the Nimitz are the largest warships in the world. The displacement of the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz is 100 000 t, length - 333 m, width - 77 m, draft - 11,3 m. c.), accelerating the aircraft carrier to 260 nodes (000 km / h). The service life of nuclear reactors is 30 – 56 years. The aircraft carrier Nimitz (CVN-20) - was adopted by the US Navy in 25 year
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 9 March 2018 09: 29
    +2
    The ship is already quite old, so it is not surprising that it is being repaired. I am more interested in the dry dock, its size should be even larger than this giant.
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 9 March 2018 09: 31
      +3
      What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 March 2018 09: 33
        +8
        While this floats, scrap metal is not .. yes
        Quote: Spartanez300
        What is the point now to invest in scrap metal.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 9 March 2018 15: 04
          +2
          Quote: Spartanez300
          What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.

          Full of banana republics that urgently need democratization. wink
          Yes, and Europe needs "protection." laughing
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 March 2018 09: 33
        +6
        It was modernized several times, so that it is far from the state of scrap metal.
      3. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 09: 36
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        What is the point now to invest in scrap metal, he has no protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes yes .

        These galoshes are already in the past, so if only "punch", near the African continent in front of Somalia, etc ... hehe
        1. tchoni
          tchoni 9 March 2018 10: 09
          +26
          Quote: MIKHAN
          These galoshes are already in the past, so if only "punch", near the African continent in front of Somalia, etc ... hehe

          Quote: Spartanez300
          What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.

          Damn, I am surprised at you .... To live up to the years of advanced, you can’t make a mind ... One such "special" by the name of Khrushchev has already drank live aviation once ... What is the point in airfields and air divisions if each of them is assigned personal "kuzkina mother"? So drank ...
          So, ladies and gentlemen, specialists, an aircraft carrier of the "Nymets" type is, for a second, a COMBINED AIRCRAFT. At, I emphasize, a MOBILE airfield ... Covered in such a way that my mother does not worry.
          If these, as they say here, “troughs” are useless, then stationary aerodromes, fighter, bomber and other types of aviation, except, except for passenger and transport, it’s time to discard them! Exactly as bequeathed to us, the late Nikita Sergeyevich!
          And, if you get tired, then you don’t chase the “captains of the Filipovs” at the risk of their lives .... Immediately with the hypersonic glider on the “barbukhaik” cheap and all for a short time.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 9 March 2018 10: 27
            +10
            tchoni

            Professor, is the equipment with you?
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 9 March 2018 10: 53
              +6
              Quote: sabakina
              tchoni

              Professor, is the equipment with you?

              what Is the professor wrong in something?
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 9 March 2018 10: 58
                +6
                Sergey, what? Even Professor Preobrazhensky was mistaken. What is an aircraft carrier? Floating runway. There, even Zircon is not necessary.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 9 March 2018 11: 25
                  +8
                  Quote: sabakina
                  What is an aircraft carrier?

                  Glory if it were so simple! This runway still needs to be found on the expanses of the ocean, then somehow pull the ubiquitous Zircons to 500 to this runway and survive, then manage to point these Zircons onto the floating runway, but how the Zircons break through the defense of the warrant you and I don’t know !!!!
                  1. sabakina
                    sabakina 9 March 2018 11: 29
                    +7
                    Sergey, canceled Google? Satellites canceled? Who forbids casting the cast-iron core of the 18th century from near space?
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 9 March 2018 12: 13
                      +8
                      Quote: sabakina
                      Google canceled? Satellites canceled?

                      laughing Glory, well, you well understand that Google and satellites will be the first victims of the 3-th world!
                      Ooohhh, there was such a space thing in the USSR, it was called "Legend", and so in 81 all our naval reconnaissance including Legend missed the passage of 83's NATO ships led by the Eisenhower of the Greenland-Iceland-Faroe line islands, patrol aviation of the USSR Navy detected them already near the North Cape, and this is the whole Kola region under attack for 15-20 minutes!
                      in 83, the situation is practically the same only in the Pacific Ocean. Navy reconnaissance suddenly lost as many 2 aircraft carriers as Midway and Enterprise, and after 4 days the TU-95 RC patrolling two hundred kilometers from Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky met a pair of F-14 with characteristic signs of belonging to the Enterprise, they were in AU 450 kilometers from Petropavlovsk!
                      This is despite the fact that Vyacheslav that the American AOG was constantly monitored and the separation from the tracking was an extraordinary emergency!
                      Do not neglect the enemy, the song "If tomorrow is war" for all times is not the topic hi
                      1. sabakina
                        sabakina 9 March 2018 12: 22
                        +6
                        Seryoga, for some reason I remember infa, like our submarines (like there were three), during the Cold War, under the "supervision" of the underwater American tracking system, they walked, walked and suddenly disappeared. Not atomic! Just picked up and disappeared!
          2. Topgun
            Topgun 9 March 2018 11: 46
            +5
            plus every word.
            aircraft carriers (or rather, a floating airfield (critics look at it like a ship, and this again is an airfield)) will become obsolete when flying aircraft carriers appear wink
            for aviation will never become obsolete and aviation needs airfields ...
          3. Winnie76
            Winnie76 9 March 2018 12: 58
            0
            Quote: tchoni
            So, ladies and gentlemen, specialists, an aircraft carrier of the "Nymets" type is, for a second, a COMBINED AIRCRAFT. At, I emphasize, a MOBILE airfield ... Covered in such a way that my mother does not worry.

            Now this is the mass grave of "CONSIDERED AIRCRAFT". Tell me dear tchoni, how will this very air division bring down 10 M rackets? I’m silent about the underwater equipment.
            Quote: tchoni
            If these, as they say here, “troughs” are useless, then stationary aerodromes, fighter, bomber and other types of aviation, except, except for passenger and transport, it’s time to discard them!

            One does not follow from the other. Aircraft can be relocated from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok in half a day and immediately participate in operations. For this, an iron trough with castrated aircraft is not necessary.

            Quote: tchoni
            And, if you get tired, then you don’t chase the “captains of the Filipovs” at the risk of their lives .... Immediately with the hypersonic glider on the “barbukhaik” cheap and all for a short time.

            In the "troughs" you mentioned, in addition to the "captains of the Phillip", there are several thousand more souls. Well, the mismatch between the cost of the projectile and the target is a global trend.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 9 March 2018 14: 07
              +6
              Quote: Winnie76
              Aircraft can be relocated from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok in half a day and immediately participate in operations.

              what And them. to these aircraft, in this situation, will the adversaries be able to relocate to the Far East? And whether they will have the opportunity to land, because for half a day of their flight from land aerodromes, it is also unlikely that there will be anything left, besides there are few of them there!
              Quote: Winnie76
              how will this very air division bring down 10 M rackets? I’m silent about the underwater equipment.

              Well my friend, a screw with a thread will always be selected for a thick hole! Yes, I agree now there is no screw, but it is only now!
              tchoni right, 10 M rackets will complement Russia's defense well, but will not replace the rest of the armament!
          4. flicker
            flicker 9 March 2018 23: 39
            +1
            Maybe cavalry also had to be left as a striking force?
            nefig to drive the "captains of the Filipovs" at the risk of their lives
            So everything goes to ensure that there will be unmanned aircraft, which can be in the air for an extremely long time. So it’s enough to have airfields on your territory. So with the advent of extended range hypersonic missiles, the capabilities of AUGs are seriously depreciating. Not against the Somali pirates still come down, but for a serious modern war they are no longer relevant.
            In general, the situation for amers becomes extremely disappointing, for their faithful allies even worse. Disappointing, because they will practically not be able to catch up with Russia in modern weapons, due to the absence of a number of factors important for this. In short, the Americans sailed.
        2. Safevi
          Safevi 9 March 2018 10: 41
          +9
          “These galoshes are already in the past,” “What is the point of investing money in scrap metal now, it does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.”
          The Americans are not stupid at all, which they have proved many times. They are well aware of the value of campaign statements. laughing This is the time. And secondly, this "scrap" is perfectly covered. If the cat cannot reach the treat, then he calls him "rotten meat" laughing laughing
          1. flicker
            flicker 9 March 2018 23: 42
            +1
            this "scrap metal" is perfectly covered.
            But not from rockets with hypersonic speed, any general in the Pentogon will confirm this.
        3. lis-ik
          lis-ik 9 March 2018 17: 16
          +3
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: Spartanez300
          What is the point now to invest in scrap metal, he has no protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes yes .

          These galoshes are already in the past, so if only "punch", near the African continent in front of Somalia, etc ... hehe

          Meehan. You are not a distant person.
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 17: 25
            +1
            Quote: lis-ik
            Meehan. You are not a distant person.

            Oh, what it is .. Where are you to me before everyone!
            Aircraft carriers are very expensive, not only in construction, but also in maintenance ..
            And now, these are very excellent goals .. And they will begin to wet them first!
            I myself would gladly sting at the trigger, seeing what panic is there .. ha ha ha
            1. flicker
              flicker 9 March 2018 23: 52
              +1
              And now, these are very excellent goals.
              Even under Obama, when the Americans were about to strike at Syria, their AUG was outside the range (350 km) of the Syrian Bastions. When in October 2015 we struck terrorists in Syria with calibers, the American AOG, having estimated that it was within the reach of the Caliber in the Persian Gulf, left this zone. And rightly so, AUG is a mass grave of several thousand people.
      4. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 9 March 2018 09: 52
        +6
        Quote: Spartanez300
        What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.

        Demonstrate the combat capabilities of destroying targets, finding them, roaring in the cloud of electronic warfare, and finally killing that kil, and there is no such data, then you and VVPutin infa shame and bravado. Refute my info


        nothing, well, it’s clear ..)
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 9 March 2018 10: 31
          +8
          Stormbreaker, why are you so angry and mishandled?
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 9 March 2018 12: 48
            +8
            Quote: sabakina
            Stormbreaker, why are you so angry and mishandled?

            I would answer for Gromoboy: in contrast to the envy and stupidity of commentators and their ridicule of aircraft carriers - well, the truth is from Khrushchev fool not gone. But an aircraft carrier is the embodiment of the perfection of shipbuilding thought! fellow And foreign shipbuilding thought will be better than ours. repeat Here is one reason for envy. Another: overhaul of a colossus of 100000 tons of displacement in 14 months ?! This organization of production is admirable. That's where you have to poke hari wassat Managers of our USC! Not for 15 years to build boats, not frigates for 5 years. After all, they once knew how - the 956th was built in 1,5-2 years at the end of the 80s good “I'm a witness to that.”
            You need to learn good from the enemy - to learn how to organize work. When the frigate "Stark" in 1987 received the Exoset from the Iranians, after that a month later he again ran around the Persian Gulf! But after the defeat, the PCR could not move, they dragged it in tow. A month for repair after combat damage. The compartment was completely cut out and inserted brought from the USA. Connected flanges, cable connectors. All. We still do not have this technology. We got it as a bonus from the Mistral, but no one is introducing it - you see, no one is building steamers in the compartments.
            Now dismiss: "Oh, the all-crawler jumped out." Of course! You and I have come out of military age - some pay their blood, others completely wave it off. And telling the truth, traditionally ... not held in high esteem - in any, in any society, not only with us. On that and stand. request soldier hi
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 9 March 2018 14: 35
              +3
              Welcome colleague! hi
              Quote: Galleon
              We still do not have this technology.

              Well, you see, with Stark, the example is incorrect! Oliver Perry had 54 pieces in the series; Stark was 24-m. It’s not such a problem to bring a ready-made compartment from a frigate under construction!
              Quote: Galleon
              We still do not have this technology

              So familiar to you KRL 68 bis have already been built in sections, it’s another matter that the shipbuilding and ship repair industries during the 10 years of “people's democracy” were almost killed, let’s say Gorshkov’s sale helped to survive!
              Quote: Galleon
              And telling the truth, traditionally ... not held in high esteem

              smile Do not bend! The truth can be presented in different ways, let's take the Union in the dawn of forces and compare with the Russian Federation at the beginning of the ascent, oil painting!
              1. Galleon
                Galleon 9 March 2018 16: 12
                +5
                Glad to welcome the sailor!
                I know that you can understand me, how much I would like to be wrong in my reasoning. But kapitalka for 14 months is really cool by the highest standards. This is done by a nation that was able to make dry cargo of the Liberty type in 7-8 days, a record of 3,5 days. This must be equaled, not ridiculed.
                Of all the thoughts of A.V. Suvorov I especially like this:
                "Choose your idol. Imitate him. Catch him. Outrun him! Glory to you."
                That’s how to live ...
                And as for the inflection, it brought me into philosophy, on a "global scale." recourse
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 9 March 2018 17: 37
                  +4
                  Quote: Galleon
                  Glad to welcome the sailor!
                  capital for 14 months is really cool by the highest standards.recourse

                  yes I agree to all 100%
                  Quote: Galleon
                  This must be equaled, not ridiculed.

                  smile And here your truth is and God forbid shipbuilding in Russia will come nearer to this!
                  Quote: Galleon
                  And about inflection - it brought me into philosophy

                  laughing It happens!
                  For world peace drinks
            2. flicker
              flicker 10 March 2018 00: 02
              +1
              So the question is not about technology, but about changing the strategy of military operations, with the advent of hypersonic missiles that make the aircraft carrier extremely vulnerable - 6000 thousand people in one hit, this is an extremely high price for trying to use a floating airfield.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 9 March 2018 10: 36
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Refute my info

          Well then, according to your logic, there are no nuclear warheads on ICBMs. you’ll not be able to show me their combat capabilities in destroying targets. “Caliber” to Syria, too, it seems nobody saw in the work.
      5. d1975
        d1975 9 March 2018 10: 57
        +1
        Have you not understood the meaning of the American economy? They always need an enemy. Fantasy then print. You know the story clearly. They have everything built in the war. But the citizen is not so sewn one to the other. Just do not talk about the auto industry and all that.
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 9 March 2018 12: 31
          +3
          Well, if you don’t need to talk about the auto industry, then the finished metal products are 32,6 billion dollars, electrical equipment is 32,2 billion optical, technical and medical devices are 84.2 billion dollars. America produces 4.05% of the world export of machine tools. For comparison, Russia -0.15% of world exports. According to the figures, it turns out that something other than war can produce request
      6. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 9 March 2018 11: 42
        +2
        Quote: Spartanez300
        he has no protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes

        So not all countries have new Russian missiles and torpedoes. this old man can still “bring dermorcracy” to countries of the non-first world ...
      7. lis-ik
        lis-ik 9 March 2018 17: 15
        +6
        Quote: Spartanez300
        What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.

        Envy is visible in every word, although it is also envious and insulting to me that everything that is earned in Russia is not invested in our economy.
      8. Prisoner
        Prisoner 10 March 2018 10: 50
        0
        Or maybe that's why they dried it? winked Only to say that the useless bucket was written off awkwardly and came up with about the repair. winked
    2. Dezinto
      Dezinto 9 March 2018 09: 35
      +2
      somewhere hid there ....

      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 March 2018 09: 38
        0
        I see three aircraft-carrying vessels in the picture, but there is no dry dock with it.
        Quote: DEZINTO
        somewhere hid there ....

        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto 9 March 2018 09: 43
          +2
          Well, I don’t know him ... not a scuba diver winked , but probably somewhere where it was built there and parked ....

          1. Gnefredov
            Gnefredov 9 March 2018 10: 22
            +7
            Now the granddaughter runs up (7 years) ...
            Oh grandfather! Who is it that you are so scary?
            Where am I?
            V. - Yes!
            I. - Show me.
            V. - Here! (pokes a finger at the monitor).
            ... and after a minute he throws it to me:
            1. Dezinto
              Dezinto 9 March 2018 11: 06
              +3
              pha ha, ....) very cute, talented granddaughter good
        2. Serg65
          Serg65 9 March 2018 10: 00
          +6
          Quote: 210ox
          I see three aircraft-carrying vessels in the picture, but there is no dry dock with it.

          Dmitry, to the right of the three vessels in 3 see the rectangular thing in the photo - this is the dry dock hi
          1. 210ox
            210ox 9 March 2018 10: 13
            0
            Thanks Sergey hi Considered ..
            Quote: Serg65
            Quote: 210ox
            I see three aircraft-carrying vessels in the picture, but there is no dry dock with it.

            Dmitry, to the right of the three vessels in 3 see the rectangular thing in the photo - this is the dry dock hi
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 9 March 2018 10: 17
              +5
              Quote: 210ox
              Considered ..

              But Nimitz is already near the dock
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 9 March 2018 10: 31
            0
            Quote: Serg65
            Dmitry, to the right of the three vessels in 3 see the rectangular thing in the photo - this is the dry dock


            Photo 1940 g, but they are very clearly visible where the docks
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 9 March 2018 10: 40
              +1
              Quote: APASUS
              Photo 1940 g, but they are very clearly visible where the docks

              In the photo in my second comment, the docks you mentioned are located in the upper right corner, and Nimitz (onboard 68) is standing right at the largest dock!
              hi
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 9 March 2018 10: 45
                +1
                For APASUS
                This will be more obvious

                Nimitz is near the dock in the lower left corner, and your docks are right in the center!
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 9 March 2018 10: 54
                  0
                  Quote: Serg65
                  Nimitz is near the dock in the lower left corner, and your docks are right in the center!

                  Well, yes, there is such a thing, rebuilt a little!
    3. tchoni
      tchoni 9 March 2018 09: 36
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      The ship is already quite old, so it is not surprising that it is being repaired. I am more interested in the dry dock, its size should be even larger than this giant.

      Oh yes, old. But, what a hlrosh aircraft carrier is, is that its capabilities are determined by the capabilities of its air group. Changed the aircraft on the deck - and voila ... again a new ship.
      True, there are the same difficulties there ... but, well, without them ...
      And the dock, yes ... The decent pool is half a kilometer 100 meters away ... The funny thing is that it is not the only one ...
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 9 March 2018 10: 08
      0
      the dimensions of the dock are clear,
      HIGHLIGHTS - IN THE USA, THERE ARE JANUARIANS WHICH SWEEP AND CLEAN SUCH AREAS.
      not only Hollywood Boulevard is being cleaned
      1. d1975
        d1975 9 March 2018 10: 59
        +1
        And you would have, if you were given a machine. laughing
    5. san4es
      san4es 9 March 2018 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      ... interested in a dry dock, its size should be even larger than this giant.


      Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, WA, Dji Phantom 3 Pro (07.10.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 9 March 2018 10: 39
      0
      About repairing foreign ships is interesting, of course. But the fact that our border guards broke up in Chechnya yesterday is not very audible. Or has the limit on negative information been exhausted? recourse
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 9 March 2018 10: 57
      +1
      Honestly, I thought that they would write him off. Apparently influenced by the delay in the operation of the new aircraft carrier.
  2. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 9 March 2018 09: 35
    +2
    A little over a year on capital repairs? Hmm ... as for me, so in the stated time it is a capital cut rather dough. Maybe I don’t understand? what
  3. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 9 March 2018 09: 43
    +3
    Wasn't Ford meant to replace the decommissioned Nimitz? Now what? Ford is postponed for an incomprehensible period or the number of aircraft carriers increase?
    1. Megamarcel
      Megamarcel 9 March 2018 11: 10
      +2
      Nimitz is not only the name of a particular ship, but also a class of ships. There are a total of 10. Replacement is already underway, but systematic. Therefore, two more Fords are being built to replace the Nithmitians. Let me remind you that the last Nimitz was commissioned in 2009. The term of operation is 50 years. So there is no need for a momentary replacement. They will also serve Uncle Sam.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 9 March 2018 11: 20
        +4
        Quote: MegaMarcel
        Nimitz is not only the name of a particular ship, but also a class of ships. There are a total of 10. Replacement is already underway, but systematic. Therefore, two more Fords are being built to replace the Nithmitians. Let me remind you that the last Nimitz was commissioned in 2009. The term of operation is 50 years. So there is no need for a momentary replacement. They will also serve Uncle Sam.

        Dear! Do not be smart. I perfectly understand the difference between the name of the type of serial ship and a specific ship. I talked about the fact that a particular Ford was supposed to replace a specific Nimitz, as the oldest ship of the previous project. And now with this replacement misunderstanding. Do not consider yourself smarter than others and mentor explain obvious things, "with a bulging lip" and contemptuous indulgence of a super expert ... No. hi
        1. smoooggg
          smoooggg 9 March 2018 19: 22
          +1
          Ford replaces Enterprise, though with a shift to the right. As for the increase in number: Trump in his shipbuilding program declared a desire to have 12 aircraft carriers, but here everything is written with a pitchfork on the water, of course
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 March 2018 09: 46
    +2
    accelerating aircraft carrier to 30 knots (56 km / h)
    For such a vessel, the speed is decent. Sooner or later, but the time comes when the ship either needs to be modernized or sent to "retire."
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 9 March 2018 10: 12
      0
      the ship either needs to be modernized or sent to "retire"

      -how much the generation of 50-70 years of Americans has done - China pours (other platforms are not yet), and this “retired” put in the atoll and concrete - the second Hawaii or Diego Garcia
    2. san4es
      san4es 9 March 2018 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      ... or retire.

  5. flicker
    flicker 9 March 2018 09: 47
    +3
    USS USS Nimitz (CVN 68) aircraft carrier rose for repair
    They want to tint the ocean trough. In an era (and this era is already open) of hypersonic missiles, an aircraft carrier becomes vulnerable even at distant approaches, and therefore its military effectiveness is sharply reduced.
    So, tint it and sell it ... well, for example, to the Saudis or Israel, so that the Palestinians would be driven.
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      1. flicker
        flicker 9 March 2018 19: 59
        +1
        The era of hypersonic missiles is open: on December 1, 2017, in the Southern Military District (South Military District), the "Dagger" hypersonic complex took up combat duty. For AUG, there is no difference who drowns it (hypersonic dagger complex or hypersonic missile). In fact, ACG is only good for the struggle of underdeveloped countries. If the total number of AUG reaches 9000 people then this is a mass grave, which will provide one "Dagger".
        hypersonic caps
        What is that ?
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          1. flicker
            flicker 9 March 2018 20: 20
            +1
            The range of the Dagger is 2000 km plus MIG 31 about 1000 km. If from the Crimea, then its reach zone is almost the entire Mediterranean Sea.
            About target designation and the rest you coquettishly kept silent, out of modesty, of course.
            I don’t see any problems at all. And again, what is this:
            hypersonic caps
            ?
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              1. flicker
                flicker 9 March 2018 22: 41
                +1
                I give a hint: hypersonic caps are the next wunderwaffe of the Russian military-industrial complex.
                Well, everything is clear, the "hypersonic hat" is a headdress that occurs when reading the Talmud for too long. A synagogue to help you.
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          2. Operator
            Operator 9 March 2018 20: 40
            +1
            Quote: smoooggg
            How does the “Dagger” in South-East Russia threaten any AUG?

            Have you heard about the Mediterranean Sea (the permanent home base of American AUGs)?

            A missile of the Dagger complex with a south-east military base and a flight range of 2000 km covers the Mediterranean Sea. But there is also Crimea and 1200 km of Mig-31 flight radius, so the Red Sea is also covered by the “Dagger” like a cow by a bull. And from the region of the North Caucasus, when a missile is launched over the Caspian, the Persian Gulf is hiding.

            And do not la la about the lack of target designation in the Mediterranean, Red Seas and the Persian Gulf - fishing, cargo and pleasure boats of the Syrians, Libyans, Egyptians, Iranians, Iraqis and the devil constantly know what shipowners are constantly hanging out in these water areas.
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              1. Operator
                Operator 9 March 2018 21: 12
                +1
                Give at least one example of the interception of a maneuvering warhead diving at a speed of 10M (at the entrance to the atmosphere) to 5M (when approaching the target).

                And who told you that on a fishing schooner under the flag of Cyprus, Greece, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Malta, etc. there will be Cypriots, Greeks, Turks, Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, Libyans, Tunisians, Maltese, etc. (when did the Special Forces hear?) laughing

                Plus the simplest small-sized UAVs launched from schooners beyond the horizon, plus lanterns on the entire radio range of the AUG radar - if you turn off the radars, then there is a chance to receive explosive greetings from any motor boat in the cramped water area of ​​the Mediterranean, Red Seas and the Persian Gulf (did you hear about OCHAS?).
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                  1. Operator
                    Operator 9 March 2018 21: 27
                    +1
                    You have cereal in your head: “Dagger” is a complex, and only part of it comes out of the atmosphere - a detachable Iskander-M missile warhead, when fired at a maximum range of 2000 km, of course. When firing at shorter ranges, the warhead flies in the atmosphere at an altitude of no higher than 100 km.

                    To hit Norfolk, we do not need 20M, because the Iskander-M warhead with 10M launched from the MiG-31 over the Kaliningrad region of the Russian Federation reaches any point on the British Isles.

                    Then "why pay more?" bully
                    1. smoooggg
                      smoooggg 9 March 2018 22: 40
                      +1
                      > only part of it escapes from the atmosphere - the detachable warhead of the Iskander-M missile
                      > flies in the atmosphere at an altitude of no higher than 100 km
                      > reaches anywhere in the British Isles

                      I’ll probably leave you alone with porridge, comment on this - ahem, leave it to someone more patient
                      1. Operator
                        Operator 9 March 2018 22: 43
                        0
                        Yes, yes, yes - to measure the distance from Kaliningrad to London is beyond your capabilities, you’re our daughter of an officer laughing
  6. Simon
    Simon 9 March 2018 09: 48
    +2
    Quote: 210ox
    The ship is already quite old, so it is not surprising that it is being repaired. I am more interested in the dry dock, its size should be even larger than this giant.

    Or maybe it will be easier for them to let it go for scrap! To invest such money in this junk, all the same, half of the funds will be stolen. request
    1. demiurg
      demiurg 9 March 2018 10: 19
      +6
      This junk is fully trained and fired crew, equipped with an air wing. There are no critical operational issues. Repair this junk will do a maximum of one and a half years.
      So, Kulya is the junk in its current form, with its combat readiness tending to zero. And Nimitz is a combat-ready ship that got up for scheduled repairs.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 9 March 2018 10: 40
        +5
        Valera, I just laugh cleanly .... Where do you write from?
        1. demiurg
          demiurg 9 March 2018 10: 41
          0
          From the village of Prokudskoye, Novosibirsk Region hi It’s not my fault that when I go to the Internet via a mobile MTS, they assign me the IP of various states.


          Here you can even see my house.

          https://yandex.ru/maps/?source=serp_navig&mod
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          .005608 & z = 18 & l = sat
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 9 March 2018 10: 51
            +4
            Valera, understood. But still, I think you should not blame Kuzyu. Yes, boilers of course the last century, but walks! As said in one film: "Came, saw, inherited." If you answer in which movie this phrase was sounded, I respect the village of Prokudskoye even more.
            1. max702
              max702 9 March 2018 12: 13
              0
              Quote: sabakina
              As said in one film: "Came, saw, inherited."

              More likely not so, came, saw .. drowned ...
            2. demiurg
              demiurg 9 March 2018 13: 31
              +1
              They fought for their homeland.
              There was such a commander in antiquity, Alexander the Great ....



              Boilers are not a problem. 12-15 knots is enough to frighten Bantustanov. Combat maneuvering is difficult, and the dynamics are worse. The problem is the lack of training of the crew, and the lack of a full-fledged air wing. How many sorties per day can our aircraft carrier issue? And in a week?

            3. mvg
              mvg 9 March 2018 13: 42
              +1
              In addition to the fact that he "walks", they demand from him that they take off from him and land on him, and he (Kuzya) very often writes a one-way ticket. And how many combat-ready aircraft does he have? 6 pieces or less?
              Until the 43-year-old Nimitz, as .... I do not want to express myself.
    2. Berkut154
      Berkut154 9 March 2018 10: 31
      +3
      Do not underestimate the likely enemy. So much money will be poured into it that for this amount of a full fleet you can rebuild and upgrade another. For any ship, average repair is the second consider a new life!
  7. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 9 March 2018 10: 50
    +6
    The urapatriots come to shit due to the fact that the ship of analogues of which has never been in the USSR, much less in the Russian Federation, took up MOT. When the pelvis type BDK Ivan Gren learn to build in an acceptable time then you need to open your mouths. Everyone scares the states with weapons not standing on combat duty! Where are your onyxes, sarmatians, etc.? Only in the form of prototypes! And even then it is not clear whether they reached the declared characteristics ... When will the last Orlan come out of the dry dock? And what will it be equipped with? While someone on TV is talking about super weapons on the background of the graphics from the calculator, others are conducting systematic work on servicing equipment and creating new samples. And we even cannot properly preserve and service the Soviet legacy. One electoral chatter. Ugh.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 9 March 2018 11: 13
      +5
      You fig bakes, and why not in capital letters !? so it would be even louder ....
      Yes, everything is clear, we have rust and bluff, everything is tattered, why dare we open our mouths ... everything is clear, clear, I’ll go and look for soap and rope, otherwise I don’t have either.
      Where is Russia and Where is Elon Musk, ... of course it's time to give up!
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 March 2018 11: 15
      +2
      Well, apparently, yesterday you had a bite to import bile from you from all the cracks ... continue, finish your bile throwing faster
    3. AID.S
      AID.S 9 March 2018 11: 17
      0
      Quote: MegaMarcel
      learn to build

      Quote: MegaMarcel
      Where are your onyxes, sarmatians, etc.?

      Your comment leaves a feeling of duality and crisis. I have to wait. laughing
      1. flicker
        flicker 9 March 2018 11: 26
        +2
        Quote: AID.S
        Quote: MegaMarcel
        learn to build

        Quote: MegaMarcel
        Where are your onyxes, sarmatians, etc.?

        Your comment leaves a feeling of duality and crisis. I have to wait. laughing

        Especially "YOUR onyxes, Sarmatians .." (under the Russian flag)?!. It seems that people are offering to crack them in Israel ... I don’t know, will it be easier for him about this?
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 9 March 2018 11: 34
    0
    Let the Chinese give it to the Chinese on account of their debts at their residual value! wassat
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 9 March 2018 11: 44
      0
      Let the Chinese give it to the Chinese on account of their debts at their residual value!

      It would be great, but the United States does not have its own Gorbachev or Yeltsin to start such garbage, alas, we had this ...............
      And about Afiget with what joy the Americans talked about it!



      I would like to see how they saw their submarine, also for a long time methodically 45 minutes of video telling about John the son of a fisherman who now saws the submarine George .... but alas.
      damn thing !!!
      1. onix757
        onix757 9 March 2018 11: 55
        +3
        Quote: DEZINTO
        It would be great, but the United States does not have its own Gorbachev or Yeltsin to start such garbage, alas, we had this ...............

        TK-202, TK-12 Simbirsk and TK-13 were disposed of between 2005 and 2009 with US financial support. TK-17 "Arkhangelsk" and TK-20 "Severstal" in 2004-2006 were put into the reserve of the fleet due to the lack of ammunition and are now also awaiting disposal.
        And where does the fuck with Gorbachev?
        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto 9 March 2018 12: 00
          0
          And where does

          Well, it’s not literally true, but they set this energy .... and then it went down, neither the plants could hold the load of the service, nor the fleet had qualifications ... they all ran away, or served on the dump .... not all of course but most .....
          To extinguish a goby in a ventilation filter in a latrine - is that how it is? Who taught this head? That’s the answer, no one, they bolted a bolt and .... that’s why I blame these two characters, they set a trend that they are still trying to bring to the right level ....
          1. onix757
            onix757 9 March 2018 12: 05
            +2
            Quote: DEZINTO
            Well, literally nothing to do with it, but they set this energy .... and then it went down, neither the plants could hold the load of the service, nor the fleet had the qualifications ... everyone ran away

            And so it started that there was no desire to revive industry. The deindustrialization of the country has reliable followers.
            1. Dezinto
              Dezinto 9 March 2018 12: 07
              0
              And so it started

              Well, yes, yes ... I’m not even going to argue with you here ... such things ... their mother ... recourse
        2. max702
          max702 9 March 2018 12: 18
          +1
          Quote: onix757
          And where does the fuck with Gorbachev?

          questions on the fleet are not resolved in one day, there the terms of decisions and reactions are decades .. And just the consequence of actions
          Quote: onix757
          ebn with gorbachev
          led to
          Quote: onix757
          TK-202, TK-12 Simbirsk and TK-13 were disposed of between 2005 and 2009
      2. vadim dok
        vadim dok 9 March 2018 19: 04
        0
        Breaking does not build!
  9. Serg65
    Serg65 9 March 2018 12: 35
    +3
    sabakina,
    Quote: sabakina
    walked, walked and suddenly disappeared

    Glory and such was, and more than once, take an interest in what the commander of the Kursk, Capra Lyachin, received the star of the Hero! Slav, understand, I’m not trying to push out the Americans, I just know for sure that an aircraft carrier is a hard-to-reach target, and if I neglect this goal, then I’ll succeed wink
  10. Old26
    Old26 9 March 2018 14: 04
    +5
    Quote: Spartanez300
    What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.

    The point is that there is an aircraft carrier, but the fact that it can sink is written on the water with a pitchfork. In addition, the United States and Russia are not the only countries on the planet. Americans will find opponents without us.

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Quote: Spartanez300
    What is the point now to invest in scrap metal, he has no protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes yes .

    These galoshes are already in the past, so if only "punch", near the African continent in front of Somalia, etc ... hehe

    And "Dagger" - in the future. There is a good proverb. "Don’t give me a gop - until you jump." So many systems reached the stage of military trials and then NOTHING. While there is no "DAGGER" in the arsenal of aviation - all this is fiction and bragging that we will melt everyone
    And do countries make their weapons not only for one country? Or are you going to shoot at an American aircraft carrier that will strike at Congo or another African country?

    Quote: sabakina
    Sergey, canceled Google? Satellites canceled? Who forbids casting the cast-iron core of the 18th century from near space?

    To do this, the kernel must still be there. And the accuracy of such a core will be a plus or minus "One bast." To defeat this trough in the Soviet Air Force, an outfit of missile carriers prior to DIVISION was allocated. With missiles like X-22. And everything is decided by you with one Zircon ...

    Quote: Winnie76
    Now this is the mass grave of "CONSIDERED AIRCRAFT". Tell me dear tchoni, how will this very air division bring down 10 M rackets? I'm already silent about underwater equipment

    Dear Vinnie! And how do these 10-fly racket “come out” on an aircraft carrier ??? We didn’t ask ourselves such a question7 The space tracking grouping in our country is in its infancy. The range of radars of AWACS aircraft is about 600 km. In order to monitor the aircraft carrier AWACS must monitor the AUG while in the area of ​​the AUG aircraft. Do you think that at the start of hostilities someone will wait for something to arrive at the tip of AWACS? He will be goal number 1. If not for an air defense missile warrant, then at least its aviation.
    And as for the de Dagger, the carrier should take off from the airfield and what next? The 1400 km missile will go without target designation, that is, they will shoot at the "milk"? How to act in this situation? No, everything is good for the cartoon. "Dagger" sinks the ship at a time. But how does the medium know where this target is?

    Quote: Winnie76
    One does not follow from the other. Aircraft can be relocated from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok in half a day and immediately participate in operations. For this, an iron trough with castrated aircraft is not necessary.

    They can’t. There are not enough tankers. And on these "troughs" by no means neutered aircraft. Well, on our ANCs there really were neutered YACs ...

    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Honestly, I thought that they would write him off. Apparently influenced by the delay in the operation of the new aircraft carrier.

    Lord! Write off. EMNIP talked about writing it off somewhere in the region of 2030. There may really be a delay with the new one and put in for repair.
    1. Pontelimon 5230
      Pontelimon 5230 9 March 2018 16: 56
      +1
      And I also think that these "floating airfields" are just troughs, very big goals for which it’s hard to miss, and I think that we don’t have to go this route. It is better to develop innovations, for example, drones with nuclear or other engines that will be able to patrol over the oceans for months, and then a floating airfield will not be needed. Many will say that these are just fantasies, but it is the dreamers who move this world forward. And I'm sure that such developments are underway.
  11. Operator
    Operator 9 March 2018 14: 25
    +1
    It was worth the March 1 GDP to declare a pilot duel of the Russian medium-range Kh-47M2 “Dagger” missile system with a combat radius of 3200 km and a hypersonic homing warhead, as the United States began on March 9 to “repair” the aircraft carrier CVN 68 Nimitz.

    First went laughing
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      1. Operator
        Operator 9 March 2018 20: 42
        +1
        Well, show - or is the gut thin?
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  12. Old26
    Old26 9 March 2018 16: 09
    +4
    Quote: Operator
    It was worth the March 1 GDP to declare a pilot duel of the Russian medium-range Kh-47M2 “Dagger” missile system with a combat radius of 3200 km and a hypersonic homing warhead, as the United States began on March 9 to “repair” the aircraft carrier CVN 68 Nimitz.

    First went laughing

    Andrew! Stop telling tales, inventing new numbers.
    1. Obnosov spoke of the X-47M2 as a short-range air-to-air missile for the SU-57. And the X index is already on the conscience of our media. It was about the R-74M2 missile
    2. Putin declared the “Dagger” as a missile with a range of TWO THOUSAND KILOMETERS. You have already grown up to 3200 km ....
    Temper your ardor and stop telling tales
    1. Operator
      Operator 9 March 2018 20: 27
      +1
      There is some likelihood that Obnosov / journalist is confused in the GRAU indices.

      But there is no chance that I would get entangled in the radius of the Mig-31 flight with a combat load without outboard fuel tanks (1200 km) plus the declared range of the Dagger missile (over 2000 km).
  13. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 9 March 2018 16: 17
    +1
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Quote: Spartanez300
    What is the point of investing in scrap metal now, he does not have any protection against new Russian missiles and torpedoes. Moreover, such a huge goal.

    Demonstrate the combat capabilities of destroying targets, finding them, roaring in the cloud of electronic warfare, and finally killing that kil, and there is no such data, then you and VVPutin infa shame and bravado. Refute my info


    nothing, well, it’s clear ..)


    Your arguments in modern rhetoric are already stone age! Even a pair of "Caliber" in nuclear equipment does not leave their AUGs a chance! Nobody is going to play with these ousted-striped sabers in "Chapaya"! And promising developments from GDP of 1.3.18 are proof of this. These Papuans with stone axes scare these terrible masterpieces!
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    2. Korax71
      Korax71 10 March 2018 04: 48
      +1
      This has already been discussed at the VO 100500 times. The caliber is not intended to fight aug. While it will fly aug you have time to leave God knows where. We’ll humbly keep silent about apples, as I understand here, all through one fan of the Stalker game. 1982 on tofe, 300 miles from the coast, they already managed to lose sight of the aug and could not find it for more than a day. It ended up in violation of the phantom link of the deck aviation of the USSR airspace and emulation of the attack, so much so that our aviation did not even have time to rise to intercept.
      1. Pingo
        Pingo 10 March 2018 05: 30
        0
        NK will not run away even from a long-range torpedo. In 1982, it was already full of reconnaissance satellites, if the fact that the Tu-95 found submarines in the Indian Ocean is nothing. If, after the destruction of their ship on the high seas, the Americans themselves want to swallow this dust, then this will be their choice.
        The link could appear from Japanese or Aleutian airfields, with or without refueling.
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 10 March 2018 09: 36
          0
          The link appeared from the AU as part of midway and enterprise. You can search on the Internet, then they also had large-scale exercises. I burst at the torpedo from the heart. Do you seriously think that the apl can go to the aug and go unnoticed? I'm afraid to disappoint you, it's just look at the composition of the group. about the times when reconnaissance airliners in the Indian Ocean found why not see how many times they managed to lose sight of aug and how many times did they dump the same submarines and tracking ships? satellites are good, but they do not transmit information in on-line mode, and to cover the entire world ocean to search for aug, what should be their number?
          1. Pingo
            Pingo 10 March 2018 16: 27
            0
            So with the midway or with the enterprise? Midway away.
            Does the speed of light interfere with this? Communication satellites do not transmit information online?
            1. Korax71
              Korax71 10 March 2018 17: 59
              0
              An aircraft carrier of the midway class and the enterprise class. I’m not talking about an atoll. Imagine a satellite constellation, and then what size a communication channel should be in order to transmit information, so you also have time to quickly process all this. Well and how many satellites in orbit that can detect a target and accompany it?
              1. Pingo
                Pingo 11 March 2018 03: 55
                0
                Enterprise is another ship from Star Wars. Maybe from him? Reagan was announcing something. And it is precisely known that it is not from the Japanese or Aleutian islands?
                What communication channel to manage to process with eyes on the screen from the TV?
                1. Pingo
                  Pingo 11 March 2018 05: 02
                  0
                  In the same year, during the war in southern Atlanik, the Soviet Armed Forces were more aware of the combat situation than both sides of the conflict combined.
  14. Des10
    Des10 9 March 2018 16: 42
    0
    [b] The service life of nuclear reactors is 20–25 years. Aircraft carrier Nimitz (CVN-68) - was adopted by the US Navy in 1975 [/ b]
    Those. they already changed the reactor in 2000.
  15. ver_
    ver_ 9 March 2018 16: 50
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    sabakina,
    Quote: sabakina
    walked, walked and suddenly disappeared

    Glory and such was, and more than once, take an interest in what the commander of the Kursk, Capra Lyachin, received the star of the Hero! Slav, understand, I’m not trying to push out the Americans, I just know for sure that an aircraft carrier is a hard-to-reach target, and if I neglect this goal, then I’ll succeed wink

    ... a bug is harder to find than a cockroach .. There is not a single dinosaur left, and bugs and other animals feel quite normal ...
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 9 March 2018 17: 41
      +1
      Quote: ver_
      a bug is harder to find than a cockroach .. There is not a single dinosaur left, and bugs and other animals feel quite normal ...

      what Well, now translate into public Russian!
  16. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 9 March 2018 17: 40
    +1
    For a long time the world did not see how the AUG is being drowned! Russian will demonstrate it .. In all its glory!
    Most likely not on their own hehe heh But it will be very impressive !!!
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  17. Old26
    Old26 9 March 2018 18: 27
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    For a long time the world did not see how the AUG is being drowned! Russian will demonstrate it .. In all its glory!
    Most likely not on their own hehe heh But it will be very impressive !!!

    Storyteller, damn it. You have some obsessions turning into hallucinations
  18. faterdom
    faterdom 9 March 2018 19: 47
    +2
    And they could help all blacks and Indians in the United States, all Latinos - medical insurance and cure tooth decay. And also - tequila with salt - for every American there are three bottles!
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  20. faterdom
    faterdom 10 March 2018 01: 03
    +1
    Quote: smoooggg
    Would it be so funny to you when you compare US spending on defense and health as a% of the total budget, and, accordingly, our spending? I'll try to guess - it will not be very funny.

    What's the point? In the same dollars, the defense of the Americans is at least an order of magnitude stronger than ours. And on the ground - they are afraid of Kim very noticeably, but our capabilities cause them sustained diarrhea. As sober-minded Paul Roberts noted in his note: “If we had such opportunities, we would have attacked without delay!” This he pays tribute to our endurance.
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      1. Korax71
        Korax71 10 March 2018 05: 00
        0
        And they don’t need to destroy. They have long held our economy for the most delicate places with a steel grip. It’s enough to look at the shares of foreign capital and investments in our economy. It would be nice for all militant citizens to look at the issue from this point of view, I think the fervor clearly diminished.
        1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
          Crane operator Nahamkinson 10 March 2018 05: 38
          +1
          korax, have you already given up
          Well, run to Tashkent, hide.
          Or back to the promised one.
          And from Russia, what do you want?
          1. Korax71
            Korax71 10 March 2018 09: 42
            0
            Man))))) I kind of didn’t eat with you from one boiler and didn’t sit in the trench so that you poked me. I will ask you last where and when to go. And what is it that you so zealously advocate for the promised land? maybe you have some kind of fantasies connected with her? or do you just like to see the Jewish mark in everything?
  21. ver_
    ver_ 10 March 2018 02: 43
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: ver_
    a bug is harder to find than a cockroach .. There is not a single dinosaur left, and bugs and other animals feel quite normal ...

    what Well, now translate into public Russian!

    ... * a small bug, but stinky .., a small flea bites angrier * ..
  22. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 10 March 2018 08: 35
    0
    Quote: Korax71
    This has already been discussed at the VO 100500 times. The caliber is not intended to fight aug. While it will fly aug you have time to leave God knows where. We’ll humbly keep silent about apples, as I understand here, all through one fan of the Stalker game. 1982 on tofe, 300 miles from the coast, they already managed to lose sight of the aug and could not find it for more than a day. It ended up in violation of the phantom link of the deck aviation of the USSR airspace and emulation of the attack, so much so that our aviation did not even have time to rise to intercept.


    Well, if these “Caliber” are able to get only in the Benladens attached with scotch tape to the pillory last week, then what for they are accepted with bundles in the fleet ?! Fly over the sea flies ?! Or interference before a communication session with a big land ?!

    A stalker or a stalker, but if your shores are overlaid with AUGs, loaded with full minced meat, and in another version they don’t even dare to meddle here, then you dear, Korax71, will pick your nose for a long time, desoldering, than sprinkle it with dust, deodorant (so that God forbid, who can’t do any harm!), or what seriously apply ?! What kind of pacifism, Korax71?

    I'd like to clarify, but in the 82nd who lost the AUG? Is the Mars observer a sailor Zapupyrkin? And when he lost, dezh.operator radar st. II Art. Holding the grips did not connect the cables in the hold, by any chance? By the way, was the radar exactly on that live? And how did you understand that you lost, left the traces of the AUG? Maybe it was not in the 82nd, but in the 92nd? Of course, I apologize for excessive obsession?

    By the way, Korax71, but they didn’t tell you that the guys from the GUV of the RF Ministry of Defense do not know about the decision made by VO not to use “Gauges” against AUG, because are they moving too fast? Nodo would notify, otherwise they would squander people's money, instead of having to build a couple of hundred clinics and buy another batch of improved turbo-charged enemas!
    1. Korax71
      Korax71 10 March 2018 16: 17
      0
      Flitex exercises 82. you can also search for an article on this occasion. D firing range of caliber 3m-54k 300-325 km. Now compare with the radius of carrier-based aviation aug. I, of course, understand your sarcasm, but you have an idea what combat is actions? if yes, then I don’t understand your enthusiasm and even a good half of the participants in the discussion. Mr. Letov has a good song. They’re not born sodates, they’re dying.
      1. Pingo
        Pingo 10 March 2018 16: 29
        0
        Show an example. What else did they say on the polit-information during the Flitex exercises?
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 10 March 2018 17: 49
          0
          There is more than enough information on these exercises in Google on both sides, especially since with your flag you should know the capabilities of your native navy and air force better than me, since you are registered on a site with a military theme.
          1. Pingo
            Pingo 11 March 2018 09: 28
            0
            Maybe that's why I know where they actually came from?