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American tank crew rated T-14

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The tankers of the American army in an interview with Business Insider rated the T-14 “Armata” tank, calling it a “powerful combat vehicle,” reports RIA News.




As the newspaper writes, the servicemen agreed to answer the journalist's questions only under the condition of complete anonymity.

In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually."

It seems to me that Russians usually do weapon like a Kalashnikov: throw it in the dirt, it will work. And here, I think they got carried away, it turned out too heaped up,
noted one of the interlocutors of the online edition.

The military admitted that they liked the tank as a whole and called it a “powerful combat vehicle.”

They noted that “through automation, Russian engineers managed to solve many problems that other manufacturers faced tanks “For example, difficulties loading heavy ammunition.”

However, in the opinion of the Americans, “military equipment of such a level requires great effort when troubleshooting technical problems.”

Recall the T-14 - the tank of the third post-war generation, is entirely Russian design. Built on the basis of the newest universal heavy platform "Armata", which, in addition to tanks, makes it possible to produce heavy armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles, support vehicles, intelligence and control.
Photos used:
RIA Novosti / Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 8 March 2018 15: 01
    +73
    They stated this after watching the parade on Red Square? smile
    Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower laughing
    1. 210ox
      210ox 8 March 2018 15: 10
      +15
      This is not the opinion of the tankers .. Or there are tankers like the magazine men.
      Quote: Thrall
      They stated this after watching the parade on Red Square? smile
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower laughing
      1. family tree
        family tree 8 March 2018 15: 19
        +15
        Quote: 210ox
        Or there are such tankers as zhurnalyugi.

        Rather, zigzag niggas from abrashek, since they do not know about AZ and MZ. They are not told by a specialist not to rebel wassat
        1. Monos
          Monos 8 March 2018 17: 12
          +9
          Club "Anonymous American Tankers". laughing In America, it’s now fashionable to write nonsense and refer to an anonymous source. Or maybe their country is turning into a country of anonymous experts.
          1. Yuyuka
            Yuyuka 9 March 2018 12: 15
            +2
            Quote: Monos
            Club "Anonymous American Tankers". laughing In America, it’s now fashionable to write nonsense and refer to an anonymous source. Or maybe their country is turning into a country of anonymous experts.


            good Cool! in abbreviated form - Club "ANON (of an American tank) ISTOV" wassat in the country "ANON (theirs special) ISTS"! struck on the spot laughing
            1. Monos
              Monos 9 March 2018 12: 43
              +2
              Quote: Yuyuka
              Club "ANON (own American tank) ISTS" in the country "ANON (own special) ISTS"! struck on the spot

              laughing That is not what I said. You said that. smile
              1. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 9 March 2018 16: 28
                +1
                Quote: Monos
                Quote: Yuyuka
                Club "ANON (own American tank) ISTS" in the country "ANON (own special) ISTS"! struck on the spot

                laughing That is not what I said. You said that. smile


                I just voiced what comes to mind after such analytical analyzes wassat
      2. dorz
        dorz 8 March 2018 15: 23
        +22
        Quote: 210ox
        This is not the opinion of the tankers .. Or there are tankers like the magazine men.
        Quote: Thrall
        They stated this after watching the parade on Red Square? smile
        Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower laughing

        This is a survey of tankers from the World of Tanks website.
        1. StVahmistr
          StVahmistr 9 March 2018 11: 14
          +2
          This is a survey of tankers from the World of Tanks website.

          There is no such tank. laughing
      3. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 8 March 2018 15: 25
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        This is not an opinion, only propaganda of the ankists .. Or are there such tankers as the journalists.

        it’s not important at all, as there is no information in the war, propaganda is only meticulously and that is why there are such short-sighted comments from ryashek. And between the tempo of European armored vehicles of the USA I trace the dangerous moments: namely, strengthening armor, AZ, maneuvers
        1. Hammerlock
          Hammerlock 9 March 2018 05: 52
          +1
          And between the pace of European U.S. armored vehicles, I trace the dangerous moments
          Well, that's not x ... what I did not understand
      4. cniza
        cniza 8 March 2018 15: 26
        +5
        Let the gossip further ...
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 8 March 2018 15: 27
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          the mouth goggles further ...

          write further ...
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 8 March 2018 15: 57
            +12
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            write further.

            We write further, firstly it is difficult to judge by the pictures on TV how and what is better, the mattresses didn’t go to T 14 and felt with pens how and what, now it’s served as a sensation.
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            , propaganda is only meticulously and from that such narrow-minded comments from the ruins

            Yes, we’ll die from the mourners. It’s time for you to go to the General Staff, you don’t know this, they’ll clean their brains. laughing
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            I trace the dangerous moments:

            And in the tenths, the experts, who know everything seeing the battle from the side, are sick of nothing. Nothing personal and no offense.
            1. Don
              Don 8 March 2018 17: 03
              +5
              All the same, you cannot rest from VO even on the feast of your many women who are waiting for you at the table laughing
              1. vlad66
                vlad66 8 March 2018 17: 31
                +10
                Quote: Donskoy
                All the same, you cannot rest from VO even on the feast of your many women who are waiting for you at the table laughing

                Oh don't talk Colleague request One can see a cross like that and carry it. drinks hi
      5. EnGenius
        EnGenius 8 March 2018 16: 56
        +6
        Where are they without a charging African-American ?!
      6. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 8 March 2018 19: 22
        +2
        These are ridiculous ... It’s not necessary to break tanks then it will not be difficult to repair.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 9 March 2018 12: 27
          0
          Quote: Geisenberg
          These are ridiculous ... It’s not necessary to break tanks then it will not be difficult to repair

          Any repair will not be difficult if the hands of specialists have grown normally. What always distinguished the old Soviet and now traditionally new Russian equipment is maintainability, and in the field. Western military equipment, due to its excessive "tricked out", can not boast of this.
      7. Artyom
        Artyom 9 March 2018 13: 58
        0
        The level of intelligence and knowledge of such specialists is off scale wassat It seems that they are all completely shell-shocked! They did not realize that the next step was the creation of a completely crewless robotic complex. The benefit of operators for him, we have more than enough!
    2. tchoni
      tchoni 8 March 2018 15: 13
      +2
      Quote: Thrall
      They stated this after watching the parade on Red Square?

      I completely agree with this. It is difficult to evaluate a tank without having pre-loaded it.
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited laughing tower
      And here there is nothing surprising. The American army has experimented many times with both automatic submachine guns and uninhabited combat units, and remains with its “charging Negro-pitching-Joe”. Apparently this has its own reasons)
    3. Dym71
      Dym71 8 March 2018 15: 14
      +30
      Quote: Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower

      If the charging Negro, then the tower continues to be considered uninhabited! wink
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 8 March 2018 15: 24
        +9
        It seems to me that Russians usually make weapons like a Kalashnikov assault rifle: throw it in the mud, it will work. And here, I think, they got carried away, it turned out too fancy,

        Well, there is one. you're right! We have the right to just that .. soldier
        But basically everything is still with us gentlemen ... No offense!

        Soak any aggressor!
        1. onix757
          onix757 8 March 2018 15: 51
          +4
          Dunk, dunk .. Only at the time of the West -81 gentlemen were considered in the embrasure.
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 8 March 2018 15: 22
      +4
      Quote: Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower

      + for today we have the main problem - “thermal imagers” and “monitors”, and with an automatic loader, everything should be more reliable and faster than the black Joe. )))
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 8 March 2018 15: 29
        +6
        I support. This nonsense of mattresses does not even need comments. hi
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 8 March 2018 15: 38
          +9
          Pasha hi ! Spouse on Holiday! drinks
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          I support. This nonsense of mattresses does not even need comments.

          I will not bring it here - on the network of commercials about manually loading the Abrams in bulk. But, when, not being a tanker, I watched the process of manually loading the Abrams, I thought about where and when it was filmed. Over the past 30 years, it seemed to me that tankers no longer fight like that. Laughed for a long time ..... I remembered something like a scene of a sea battle from the movie "Admiral Nakhimov" ....
          1. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 8 March 2018 15: 41
            +4
            My friend Aleksey - all your lovely ladies on the occasion !!! soldier drinks
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            watched the process of manual loading "Abrams

            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Laughed for a long time .....

            Actually - I have nothing to add to your words ... good drinks
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 9 March 2018 11: 53
              +1
              Quote: bouncyhunter
              My friend Aleksey - all your lovely ladies on the occasion !!! soldier drinks
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              watched the process of manual loading "Abrams

              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Laughed for a long time .....

              Actually - I have nothing to add to your words ... good drinks


              Yes, you can also add advice in a pro-American style - for example, "Sarmat" is better to manually roll into the mine, and launch a catapult, then no electronic warfare winked

              well, or remember the words of Zadornov about them - "well, you are stupid ..."
              1. bouncyhunter
                bouncyhunter 9 March 2018 12: 06
                +2
                We don’t understand mattresses, nor do they like us. That is why the United States is waging a deliberate struggle with the Slavic world: someone is being pulled into "their faith", someone is simply being destroyed ...
      2. tchoni
        tchoni 8 March 2018 15: 45
        0
        Quote: Scoun
        + for today we have the main problem - “thermal imagers” and “monitors” and with an automatic loader, everything should be more reliable and faster than the black Joe

        And the mattress carried the first with no second problems. And for some reason they don’t refuse from "Negro Joe ... Coincidence?" - I’m not thinking!
    5. Observer2014
      Observer2014 8 March 2018 15: 23
      +3
      Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower
      Yeah. Charging blacks turn white with envy repeat
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    7. avdkrd
      avdkrd 8 March 2018 15: 47
      +9
      Quote: Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower laughing

      This "expert" is not aware that the Russians have been using the automatic loader since the beginning of the 60s of the last century and brought the same to the level of "Kalashnikov". Expert did not see anything but a black man in the place of the AZ and hardly perceives such a "twist", of course charging in an uninhabited tower is the top of reliability)))))
    8. Fox
      Fox 8 March 2018 16: 53
      +1
      Quote: Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower

      Amer-Negro-loader is not a person and a member of the crew. This is a bio-automatic.
    9. Simargl
      Simargl 8 March 2018 21: 09
      +1
      Quote: Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in uninhabited the tower
      Negro is not a man, crew Abrashi 3 people wassat
    10. basmach
      basmach 8 March 2018 21: 13
      +3
      Read carefully. It is written the same - "difficulties with loading heavy ammunition." Do not confuse loading with loading. And then you can immediately see the "specialists." I am not opposed to jabbering about the amers, but when it is justified, and not according to the principle just to blurt out, the main thing is the first.
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 9 March 2018 08: 47
        +3
        Quote: basmach
        Read carefully. It is written the same - "difficulties with loading heavy ammunition." Do not confuse loading with loading. And then you can immediately see the "specialists." I am not opposed to jabbering about the amers, but when it is justified, and not according to the principle just to blurt out, the main thing is the first.

        Just leave it here:
        In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually."
    11. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 9 March 2018 04: 23
      +2
      Quote: Thrall
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower

      He imagined how the American armata tankers snooping around with a flashlight.
      But the opinion of the “business insider” is quite authoritative with them. And "national interest" is generally untouchable, the gurus sit there, however. 152mm to them on the teapot.
    12. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2018 14: 08
      0
      Quote: Thrall
      They stated this after watching the parade on Red Square? smile
      Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower laughing

      It seems to me that the author sucked the article on "expert opinion" from ..., let’s say, from the finger.
      But if in fact this “opinion” is a fact, then Zadornov is involuntarily recalled. With his understanding of the mental abilities of minke whales.
    13. iouris
      iouris 9 March 2018 15: 15
      0
      Our US protege Trump calls such publications fake.
  2. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 8 March 2018 15: 07
    +3
    Toad envy gnaws!
  3. 210ox
    210ox 8 March 2018 15: 08
    +2
    I wonder where they come to conclusions? They gave me a sit and drool? Anonymous pancake.
  4. Simon
    Simon 8 March 2018 15: 20
    +1
    In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually." --- Well, the Americans are innovators! They come up with everything, just to not use mechanisms. For them, cheap slave power is more reliable than mechanisms. By the way, in Russia they value human lives, not like in the states.
    1. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 8 March 2018 15: 28
      +9
      When they value their lives, it’s:
      Modern medicine
      Modern weapons
      Wonderful life
      Great outfit
      Quote: Simon
      In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually." --- Well, the Americans are innovators! They come up with everything, just to not use mechanisms. For them, cheap slave power is more reliable than mechanisms. By the way, in Russia they value human lives, not like in the states.
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko 8 March 2018 15: 53
      +1
      Quote: Simon
      For them, cheap slave power is more reliable than mechanisms.

      Costs of thinking of former slaveholders. It would be possible for them to be blacks and the tank itself was pushed instead of the engine.
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 8 March 2018 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: Simon
      Well, the Americans are innovators! They come up with everything, just to not use mechanisms. For them, cheap slave power is more reliable than mechanisms.

      In fairness - your untruth!
      1. family tree
        family tree 8 March 2018 20: 03
        +2
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        In fairness - your untruth!

        Conclusion of industry from the USA to China?
        Now trying to get her back? It has risen in price, and not only financially.
        And how the EEC burst into thinking that cheap rabsil would appear with migrants.
  5. pomegranate
    pomegranate 8 March 2018 15: 21
    +1
    All this is still empty talk and reasoning, nothing really is known about rebar, and even the statements of some American magazines can be written.
  6. Firework
    Firework 8 March 2018 15: 21
    +2
    the attention of the Western press suggests that the tank is good
    1. san4es
      san4es 8 March 2018 16: 52
      +6
      Quote: Salute
      the attention of the Western press suggests that the tank is good
      soldier
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 8 March 2018 17: 30
      +1
      Quote: Salute
      the attention of the Western press suggests that the tank is good

      Praise, and this is suspicious .. No.
  7. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 March 2018 15: 22
    +3
    Gentlemen, American tankers in Armata provide manual loading and manual duplication of other systems. This is data from open sources. Designers in Russia have always paid special attention to such issues. Therefore, now the product is being tested. Well, as for maintenance, it should go forward with the goal of servicing robotics, because this is simply the development of new directions.
    1. groks
      groks 8 March 2018 18: 00
      0
      Yes, no problem - we cut the armored capsule with autogen and we are already at the gun.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 March 2018 14: 11
      0
      Quote: tank64rus
      Gentlemen, American tankers in Armata provide manual loading and manual duplication of other systems. This is data from open sources. Designers in Russia have always paid special attention to such issues. Therefore, now the product is being tested. Well, as for maintenance, it should go forward with the goal of servicing robotics, because this is simply the development of new directions.

      Have you thought well? But what about the armored capsule?
  8. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 8 March 2018 15: 26
    +7
    In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually."
    It seems to me that Russians usually make weapons like a Kalashnikov assault rifle: throw it in the mud, it will work. And here, I think, they got carried away, it turned out too fancy,
    And the fact that this "heaped up" has been working like a Kalash for decades and has been charged automatically, not a black man, even when they wound themselves with a cloudy drop at the end, they don’t know ..dbb .... and teach them dbb ..
  9. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 8 March 2018 15: 26
    +1
    Forum users, my question is not in the topic:
    Does this rating on the site somehow affect the ban from the moderator?
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 8 March 2018 16: 19
      +1
      Not really! It depends on the meaning of the commentary, so that it complies with the rules that are there, and that’s all!
      1. Sergey D_2
        Sergey D_2 8 March 2018 16: 34
        +3
        I have three warnings. Next - a dull ban?))))
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 8 March 2018 16: 41
          +5
          Quote: Sergey D_2
          Farther...


          Judging by the fact that you are still "alive" - ​​not everything is so bad.
        2. family tree
          family tree 8 March 2018 23: 28
          +3
          Quote: Sergey D_2
          I have three warnings. Next - a dull ban?))))

          Not, after the third, on the fourth shooting, on the fifth quarter, but the sixth I do not know, I only have five recourse
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 8 March 2018 23: 34
            +6
            Quote: perepilka
            I don’t know the sixth, I have only five

            And I have nine laughing
  10. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 8 March 2018 15: 37
    +1
    In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually."

    It’ll be even easier to carry it on a gun carriage right away. laughing
    But seriously, the future is for AZ, no matter how much someone wants it (it looks like envy), and manual loading is a thing of the past.
  11. Rostislav
    Rostislav 8 March 2018 15: 46
    +3
    Recall T-14 - a tank of the third post-war generation, is a completely Russian development.

    What are the vulgar hints? What kind of our tanks were "not completely" Russian-made?
    1. Comrade Beria
      Comrade Beria 8 March 2018 16: 12
      +2
      Those that were Soviet-designed. wink

      I’ll also say that the Soviet tank school grew out of French and American.
      So the American tank Christie became the prototype for the Soviet BT tanks, and later the T-34 of the first releases.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 8 March 2018 17: 28
        +3
        Quote: Comrade Beria
        Those that were Soviet-designed. wink

        I’ll also say that the Soviet tank school grew out of French and American.
        So the American tank Christie became the prototype for the Soviet BT tanks, and later the T-34 of the first releases.

        After such statements - “our comrade Beria has lost confidence.” © Especially about the “American tank school” smiled!
        1. Comrade Beria
          Comrade Beria 8 March 2018 19: 15
          +1
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Especially about the "American Tank School" smiled!

          Read the link
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Танки_серии_БТ
          The American designer Walter Christie found a revolutionary solution: he proposed increasing the diameter of the track rollers to the size of car wheels, installing the drive on the rear rollers, and making the two front rollers manageable. The tank with the caterpillars removed turned into a normal 2 × 8 wheeled vehicle, a similar scheme did not require the mechanisms for raising and lowering the propulsors: the crew simply removed the tracks and fixed them on the fenders. To increase the power supply, an aircraft engine was installed on the tank - with a mass of 9 tons, a 1931 model car could accelerate to 110 km / h and above. Such indicators attracted attention to the new product, but the US Army rejected Christie's tanks, considering it unreliable.

          In the USSR, Christie's projects were met with attention, at that time in the early 1930s in the USSR there was a feverish search for a successful tank concept. Attempts to create a tank on their own were unsuccessful - the Soviet tank builders did not have enough experience in creating combat vehicles: the creation of the T-24 tank was unsuccessful, and the MS-1 tank was more likely a prototype. As a result, the Soviet government made attempts to purchase equipment and technologies abroad.

          On December 5, 1929, on the basis of the report of the Chairman of the Revolutionary Military Council, K. E. Voroshilov, a commission led by Deputy Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars G. K. Ordzhonikidze decided to send representatives of the military department and industry abroad to acquire weapons and receive technical assistance for their production [2 ].


          The T-34 has already inherited from BT the layout and tilt of the frontal armor.
          1. Slon_on
            Slon_on 8 March 2018 23: 07
            +2
            Exactly - the US Army rejected Christie's tank. His ideas got along and developed very well with us. Then they very much asked for 34 matches for study.
          2. Svarog51
            Svarog51 9 March 2018 06: 11
            +2
            I’ll also say that the Soviet tank school grew out of French and American.

            Why didn’t the British mention? T-26 from the Vickers did. wink
            1. Comrade Beria
              Comrade Beria 9 March 2018 12: 10
              +1
              Quote: Svarog51
              Why didn’t the British mention? T-26 from the Vickers did.

              So that some would not be very upset. yes
              With the Vickers, not only the T-26 was made, but also with the 16-ton model, the concept of a three-tower tank was used. having received the T-28. but further development of multi-turret tanks did not receive.
              1. Svarog51
                Svarog51 10 March 2018 04: 26
                0
                And for more details do not tell? All in attention.
                1. Comrade Beria
                  Comrade Beria 10 March 2018 17: 17
                  +1
                  Very detailed here
                  https://32.livejournal.com/703979.html

                  Vickers 16 Ton


                  T-28
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 11 March 2018 00: 48
                    +1
                    but further development of multi-turret tanks did not receive.

                    M-dya. But what about these?

                    Well, or our T-35
                    1. Comrade Beria
                      Comrade Beria 11 March 2018 10: 27
                      +1
                      Give a model of a modern multi-tower tank. Or at least the post-war period.

                      And I can do it, just don’t use it. You can get into the hole. wink
                      1. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 11 March 2018 11: 20
                        +2
                        You have to be consistent, the ancestors of the tanks were the British, the French Renault-FT became the prototype of all modern tanks. Multi-tower became a dead end in development. The Germans did not invent anything breakthrough, but made a significant contribution to the theory and practice of using tank formations. If we are talking about modernity, then in Armata an uninhabited tower and an armored capsule for the crew are implemented. The line for fully robotic and crewless samples. Well this is for short.
                        And I can do it, just don’t use it sloth You can get there.

                        Yes, to health. I am not against your emoticons to express emotions. Do you know the meaning of the highlighted word?
  12. onix757
    onix757 8 March 2018 15: 47
    +1
    Recall T-14 - a tank of the third post-war generation, is a completely Russian development.

    Rather, a simplified version of Soviet projects. The only thing in it from the Russian Federation is a comparative reduction in price.
  13. Buildbat
    Buildbat 8 March 2018 16: 13
    0
    In 2018, Uralvagonzavod will complete the preliminary tests of Almaty, and in 2020 at least 100 new tanks will be purchased by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 8 March 2018 17: 45
      +4
      Why "at least 100 new tanks"? Do you like the number 100? laughing What am I doing. Tank Regiment - 94 tanks. Buy, for example, 100. 6 tanks - on pedestals at the checkpoint, or what? And, God forbid, they will buy more than 100. For example, 150. Again, neither there nor here. Or the extra ones will remain, or someone will not have enough ... laughing
      https://youtu.be/77b_GW2hLV8
      1. VladGashek
        VladGashek 8 March 2018 19: 10
        +1
        Dear Doliva63. Rather, the remaining vehicles will be sent to the Kazan or Omsk tank institutes (or which of them survived after the reforms). Future commanders of TV will not be taught to learn on T72. The difference between cars is the most radical.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 9 March 2018 08: 39
          +4
          No less expensive VladGashek! At VVUZs, too, they do not supply single machines - of which, perhaps, do mock-ups, but all the same platoons, for example. How to learn to command TV, having 2 tanks, for example? laughing In the 83rd, if sclerosis does not lie, in my school they changed equipment in the BOUP, they immediately brought a battalion of 72-s - this is our way laughing As for what to teach, we had 62 graduates, and the people went to the troops on 64, 72 and 80 to serve - "self-training is the main way to train an officer" (I don’t remember the number from the GS directive). "So shtaaaa" drinks
  14. Herculesic
    Herculesic 8 March 2018 16: 21
    +1
    The news is that in the photo and video the Yankees draw conclusions about the combat effectiveness of military equipment, only we do not really need their opinion.
  15. san4es
    san4es 8 March 2018 16: 28
    +4
    The Americans were confused by the 125-mm “Almaty” gun with an automatic loader, which, according to them, “it would be easier to load manually.”

    AZ on the M1128 (Stryker) am
    1. beeper
      beeper 8 March 2018 22: 22
      +2
      Dear Sanchez, many thanks for your informative videos, supplementing many articles on the Topvar.ru site! hi
      In this video, I cut to the heart the native silhouette of the "target", on which "sworn partners" practiced shooting ...
  16. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 8 March 2018 16: 46
    +4
    In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually." laughing
    What kind of military Americans are they who don’t know that we have had automatic loading systems on tanks and self-propelled guns for half a century?
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 11 March 2018 14: 17
      0
      Ivan, welcome hi I look at you, too, a "double" drew, like mine. Only my "non-digital", and yours without a "reserve". good
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 11 March 2018 19: 27
        +2
        Good evening, Sergey! hi
        Something I missed again laughing
        Doubles, tees and extension cords, a good thing, but in electrics and electrical engineering. But somehow it’s not good ... No.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 11 March 2018 19: 36
          +1
          Doubles, tees and extension cords, a good thing, but in electrics and electrical engineering. But somehow it’s not good ...

          Exactly. Here Svarog is persecuted in all cases and I do not like the plagiarist. Now you have the same. Higher on this thread.
          Z.Y. Electrical engineering is our everything. Ivanovo Energy Institute and 20-plus length of service in signalmen. drinks
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 12 March 2018 06: 36
            +2
            drinks
            Ural State Order of the Red Banner of Labor, University. A.M. Gorky! Historian Archivist laughing
            True, before this, the school as an elective, a full course of the electrotechnical faculty of UPI, and then an electrician on the weakness of the year 3-4 lol
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 12 March 2018 06: 57
              +1
              drinks
              Yes, I already know - carefully read the comments. And the partisan, who is very evil, constantly reminds. good
  17. nafanal
    nafanal 8 March 2018 17: 05
    +5
    Hehehe I didn’t like the automatic loader. That's how many I didn’t watch videos about abrams. Charging everywhere is Negro. In Russia there aren’t so many Negroes. Cheaper-automatic loader
  18. Machete
    Machete 8 March 2018 17: 05
    +2
    What is the level of their tankers, if it is “easier” for them to load the gun “manually” and not be completely in battle and not think about such trifles as charging?
    Or are they politically correct advocating for their brothers in arms because of the machine gun in the future removed?
  19. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 8 March 2018 17: 24
    0
    “In particular, the Americans were confused by the 125-mm“ Almaty ”gun with an automatic loader, which, according to them,“ it would be easier to load manually. ”
    Well, where do we get Negro-loaders! Yes, and then shove them into an uninhabited tower! fool
  20. Rainman_1
    Rainman_1 8 March 2018 17: 25
    0
    Uninhabited tower ... How should it be charging? Or what I did not understand?
  21. groks
    groks 8 March 2018 18: 02
    0
    Well, either Amer’s tankers are judged by open sources. Or the tank has already been driven. So what? Capitalism today.
  22. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 8 March 2018 20: 19
    +1
    Quote: dorz
    Quote: 210ox
    This is not the opinion of the tankers .. Or there are tankers like the magazine men.
    Quote: Thrall
    They stated this after watching the parade on Red Square? smile
    Especially delivered an expert opinion on manual loading in an uninhabited tower laughing

    This is a survey of tankers from the World of Tanks website.


    So on the contrary, they would appreciate winked They already got a sound like: Charging shell-shock, reload speed reduced laughing
  23. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 8 March 2018 20: 20
    +1
    Quote: Rainman_1
    Uninhabited tower ... How should it be charging? Or what I did not understand?


    So loader must own telekinesis, the tank of the future after all winked
  24. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 8 March 2018 20: 24
    +1
    Quote: Incvizitor
    In particular, Americans were embarrassed by the 125-mm gun "Armata" with an automatic loader, which, in their words, "it would be easier to charge manually."

    It’ll be even easier to carry it on a gun carriage right away. laughing
    But seriously, the future is for AZ, no matter how much someone wants it (it looks like envy), and manual loading is a thing of the past.


    The Americans don’t. You won’t be able to hit the loader automatically, and any brave American sergeant can cry out to a Negro, thereby significantly increasing its efficiency. laughing
  25. Berkut24
    Berkut24 8 March 2018 22: 02
    +3
    In short, not only was the world gas station accused of being overly technological, they also gave out the main highlight of Abrams - a secret never-tired charging Negro.
  26. beeper
    beeper 8 March 2018 22: 07
    +3
    Somehow I was not at all impressed by this, obviously sucked out of my finger, opinion of business journalists, “tankers” smile
    Although I fully admit that among the American tankers there may be such dense "highly specialized" as the two or three "interviewees" - for some reason, as if in a bar, the journalist found a beer-drinking, "racially close" tankers. Out of the context of their answers, they were most likely loading (rockets-loaders of shells into the tank, and then into the breech of the tank cannon, if you simply explain it to non-tankers and not artillerymen) “put down” to this company, and they were allowed to ask a couple of “questions” about the new Russian tank (whose photo was immediately shown). " The drunken "remarks about nothing" were and formed the basis of this "interview on condition of anonymity"? winked
    With such a level of “interview”, with a bit of imagination, you can write in batches on any topic, even just wallowing at home on the couch and, in readiness, “dumping” the editorial website wink
  27. Yuyuka
    Yuyuka 9 March 2018 12: 19
    0
    Quote: Yuyuka
    Quote: Monos
    Club "Anonymous American Tankers". laughing In America, it’s now fashionable to write nonsense and refer to an anonymous source. Or maybe their country is turning into a country of anonymous experts.


    good Cool! in abbreviated form - Club "ANON (of an American tank) ISTOV" wassat
    located in the country
    "ANON (theirs special) ISTOV" laughing
  28. ochakow703
    ochakow703 9 March 2018 14: 00
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    "In particular, the Americans were confused by the 125-mm gun of the" Almaty "with an automatic loader, which, according to them," it would be easier to load manually. " Of course - a Negro in the fighting compartment is purely American.
  29. ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 9 March 2018 14: 02
    0
    I read this news on another resource, only most of the text looked different. I recall the "broken phone." That's actually it.

    The Abrams crew showed me their tank in Fort Bliss, Texas, and I decided to ask what they think about the new Russian T-14 Armata tank, writes Business Insider journalist.

    At first they looked at each other, doubting whether to talk to me about it or not, but when I promised that I would not give their names, they agreed.

    “The T-14 is three crew members, all in one building. It seems pretty safe, ”said the crew commander.

    “He has a self-loading 125 mm gun. But look around how sandy it is. Everything needs to work in any environment. Usually Russians make weapons, such as Kalashnikov: throwing them in the mud will work, but here, I think, they got carried away, tried to do it too cool, ”the gunner of the Abrams tank shared his opinion.

    “The T-14 has a fully automated tower. What will happen if something happens with the mechanism in battle, you need to leave your position and climb into the tower? And what if a misfire happens? How long does it take to fix all this? I don’t know, I don’t know ... ”, the tank loader resents.

    “A person can charge a gun faster than a modern mechanism, so what's the point?” He asks.

    “Regarding the prospects of making a tank without a crew on the basis of“ Almaty ”: from a service point of view, a tank without a crew is very difficult. All I do is constantly service them and they break all the same, anyway, ”says the Abrams driver.
  30. M0xHaTka
    M0xHaTka 9 March 2018 14: 22
    0
    In Russian tanks, an automatic loader appeared during the war. T-44 was designed taking into account its installation. And then they were suddenly embarrassed by his presence. Yes, and in the tower, in which there is not a single charger :)
  31. kafa
    kafa 9 March 2018 17: 47
    0
    "US Army tankers in an interview with Business Insider evaluated the Armata T-14 tank, calling it a" powerful fighting vehicle, "RIA Novosti reports."
    "American tankers rated the T-14"
    How did American tankers rate the T-14? !!!!!!!!!!
    Well, clean neighing !!!!!!!!
  32. Hiller
    Hiller 9 March 2018 22: 13
    0
    Yes ... why already there ... we ourselves haven’t appreciated it yet .... And to them it’s more visible because of the puddle .... from Abrams
  33. Comrade Beria
    Comrade Beria 11 March 2018 13: 38
    +1
    Svarog51,
    Zhmurki watched.
  34. Comrade Beria
    Comrade Beria 11 March 2018 13: 44
    +1
    Quote: Svarog51
    You have to be consistent, the ancestors of the tanks were the British,

    Show me and the public a Soviet tank, modeled after the British Mk-1? "male" or "female". And how did they influence Soviet tank building?
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 11 March 2018 14: 05
      0
      Show me and the public a Soviet tank, modeled after the British Mk-1?

      But why move in a dead end? Already during the Civil War and intervention, the direction of development became clear. Used by strangers and went the other way, French at first.

      These didn’t fit

      But these came in handy