Groysman: Gazprom must comply with the decisions of the Stockholm and Ukrainian courts

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The channel "112 Ukraine" publishes a statement by the Chairman of the Government of Ukraine, Vladimir Groisman. In his statement, Groysman called on the Minister of Justice of Ukraine to “step up work aimed at collecting fines from Gazprom.” According to Groisman, the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine "could involve international organizations in this kind of work."

From the statement of the Ukrainian Prime Minister:
The position of Ukraine in the situation with Gazprom should be tough and consistent. Gazprom must comply with the verdict of the Stockholm arbitration, as well as comply with the requirements of the antimonopoly authority of Ukraine and the decisions of the Ukrainian courts. Today I talked about our actions in this connection with the Minister of Justice of Ukraine Pavel Petrenko.




Groysman: Gazprom must comply with the decisions of the Stockholm and Ukrainian courts


Interestingly, did Groisman himself understand what he said? .. Since when has Ukrainian legislation acquired such a “universal scale” that even foreign companies have to comply with the decisions of Ukrainian courts?

It is reported that the Ukrainian government considers it possible to seize the assets of the Russian company Gazprom abroad.

Economic experts believe that with such an approach to dealing with the main energy supplier to Ukraine, the latter may soon be left alone with an empty pipe and the resale of Russian gas to European “friends” two to three times more expensive than what Russia initially offered at price.
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  1. +22
    7 March 2018 19: 51
    Yes, of course. Only the laces look. And this will happen in time for the end of the 2019 year.
    1. +8
      7 March 2018 19: 55
      I wonder if Groysman himself understood what he said.

      This people knows everything that will be ..! They will rob everything. what remains in Ukraine .. angry
      1. +18
        7 March 2018 19: 58
        Economic experts believe that with this approach to doing business with the main energy supplier to Ukraine, the latter may soon really be left face to face with an empty pipe

        The expression "twirl on the pipe" takes on a fairly clear outline - meaning.
        Or PR, or, even worse, really believes in what he says.
        But - soon the "fairy tale" is over, and whoever believes so ... - will be disappointed! (If Gazprom does not vote)
        (Groisman - Gazprom, hah, what a strange consonance.)
        1. +14
          7 March 2018 20: 57
          Vinnitsa pepper in touch laughing
        2. +2
          7 March 2018 23: 43
          (Groysman - Gazprom, hah, what a strange consonance.)

          Freaky trick of history -
          One of the points of the Zborovsky treatise of 1649 provided for a ban on the residence of Jews in the territory of Cossack autonomy. laughing (About how, not Ukraine, but the Cossack autonomy of Poland under the control of the king.)
        3. +2
          8 March 2018 01: 27
          Quote: Crowe
          The expression "twirl on the pipe" takes on a fairly clear outline - meaning.

          Actually, is it not easier for Gazprom to buy Sweden with all their homosexuals in addition, than to spit on some Stockholm arbitration? Groys man is still confused underfoot. Look
          , man, as if under a bulldozer did not get.
      2. +6
        7 March 2018 20: 29
        And he is like a rooster. The main thing is to crow. and there even the sun does not rise!
        1. +2
          8 March 2018 03: 40
          recalled character
      3. +7
        7 March 2018 22: 17
        Quote: MIKHAN
        This people knows everything that will be ..! They will rob everything. what remains in Ukraine ..

        And what is left there? The planet is a skeleton - there are no minerals, no water, no air. Populated by robots.
        1. +4
          8 March 2018 03: 18
          By cyborgs, bro - by CYBORGES. laughing laughing
          1. 0
            8 March 2018 13: 02
            Quote: Mih1974
            By cyborgs, bro - by CYBORGES.

            cyborgs, this is with trunks, if everyone walked with trunks there, we would have quieted this entropy for a long time. Most of the robots there are harmless.
    2. +9
      7 March 2018 19: 58
      Yeah, already done. The valve for Ukraine was blocked. And what will they suck now? belay
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. +7
          7 March 2018 23: 05
          Are you so worried about Groysman? Fisherman fisherman?
        2. +3
          7 March 2018 23: 25
          Quote: karish
          At the end of 2017, gas transit from Russia through Ukraine broke a seven-year record - 93 billion cubic meters. m. Gas transit from the Russian Federation is carried out by the state monopolist Gazprom

          Sanya, it’s good to embarrass people, now the first is already the month of March 2018, and your data for 2018 is February and 2017. wink
          Quote: karish
          you probably didn’t quite understand the arbitration decision.
          Gazprom must return Ukraine overpaid money.

          Sanya did not see the contract, but it wasn’t for the court to review the contracts for someone else’s benefit. And Ukraine’s Wishlist has long gotten everyone already, Gazprom has filed an appeal to terminate the contract, you know the legal red tape, so far the point is, the gas transportation system of Ukraine will only drive air, well, or reverse Russian gas from Europe for $ 1 per 1 cubic meter, well, that's their business. drinks hi
        3. +8
          8 March 2018 00: 46
          Quote: karish
          Quote: siberalt
          Yeah, already done. The valve for Ukraine was blocked. And what will they suck now?

          The transit of natural gas from Russia through the territory of Ukraine increased by 21,7% to 221,3 million cubic meters. m per day for the period from the beginning of February.

          This is evidenced by the operational data of the operator of the gas transmission system Ukrtransgaz. As reported, in January 2018, Ukraine reduced the transit of natural gas through its gas transmission system (GTS) by 32,1% - by 2,8 billion cubic meters. m compared to the same month of 2017 - up to 6 billion cubic meters. According to the results of 2017, gas transit from the Russian Federation through Ukraine broke a seven-year record - 93 billion cubic meters. m. Gas transit from the Russian Federation is carried out by the state monopolist Gazprom.

          The data is correct, but do not confuse transit gas for Europe with gas for Urkaina. Urkaine gas is no longer supplied, and transit gas will be stopped at the end of the contract termination procedure. The fact that Gazprom delivered gas volumes to Europe above the contracted delivery dates just indicates that the decision of the Stockholm court was expected, and therefore, even with the gas supply through urkain completely closed in the “even now” mode, it turns out that Russia has already complied with the terms of the contract for the volume of gas supplied, and at the same time, it can actually tighten the valve in this direction until the “right signals” are received.
          1. 0
            8 March 2018 06: 24
            The worst thing is that it is quite possible that termites from Gazprom will pay everything and will still suffer all humiliation from Western partners ...
        4. +6
          8 March 2018 05: 14
          This is called advance preparation for the termination of transit, as the summer season is coming and the transit volume is falling, and it was also necessary to fill Gazprom’s foreign storage facilities in Germany and Austria, as well as to pump gas volumes into storage facilities not owned by Gazprom, on a leasehold basis. This is necessary for forcing Nord Stream 2 and the Turkish Stream branch, which will not go to the consumption of Turkey itself. And on the outskirts of Ukraine deployed a group of more than half a million, more than a thousand aircraft and thousands of armored vehicles than they were ahead of NATO, reinforcing the group in Poland. Everyone is preparing for final disassembly in Ukraine. They timed the attack on the Donbass to our elections, we are better prepared, but then the frost intervened and their plan began to crumble, our gas blackmail turned out to be even more effective. The valve did not immediately begin to close, but svidomye began to reduce heat to citizens. The APU has come harder, and NATO is generally demoralized, for them snow is a disaster. Then it will be seen how the plan will be implemented.
          1. +2
            8 March 2018 10: 40
            Quote: hrych
            And on the outskirts of Ukraine deployed a group of more than half a million, more than a thousand aircraft and thousands of armored vehicles than they were ahead of NATO, reinforcing the group in Poland. Everyone is preparing for final disassembly in Ukraine. They timed the attack on the Donbass to our electionswe are ready better but here frosts intervened and their plan began to crumble, our gas blackmail turned out to be even more effective ... Advancing the APU became harder, and NATO is generally demoralized, snow is a disaster for them.

            Strange, we have not been accused of using climate weapons for the past 2 months.
    3. +10
      7 March 2018 19: 59
      The case when even a blow to the head does not lead to understanding ...
      1. +8
        7 March 2018 20: 01
        But what will she get from the blow? To her head? There is still no thought organ, only one bone.
        Quote: Geisenberg
        The case when even a blow to the head does not lead to understanding ...
        1. +14
          7 March 2018 20: 11
          Quote: 210ox
          But what will she get from the blow? To her head? There is still no thought organ, only one bone.

          need to strain gyrus
        2. +1
          7 March 2018 22: 29
          Quote: 210ox
          But what will she get from the blow? To her head? There is still no thought organ, only one bone.
          Quote: Geisenberg
          The case when even a blow to the head does not lead to understanding ...


          Fact. There they have one bone.
          1. 0
            7 March 2018 23: 27
            Even in the bone there is a brain, I'm afraid there is just fat)))
    4. +2
      7 March 2018 19: 59
      Well, about the shoelaces it can happen earlier .. By the way, Germany should be strained .. There can be a redirection of flows. No, you will not stay without gas, just the PRICE!
      Quote: NF68
      Yes, of course. Only the laces look. And this will happen in time for the end of the 2019 year.
      1. +5
        7 March 2018 20: 16
        Well, about the shoelaces it can happen earlier .. By the way, Germany should be strained .. There can be a redirection of flows. No, you will not stay without gas, just the PRICE!


        The Russian authorities will not especially lift the gas price for Germany. And gas prices also concern the other most “significant” EU countries. The Baltic States and Poland do not exactly apply to these countries. Let them even buy peas and "produce" gas themselves. Or buy more expensive American liquefied gas.
        1. +3
          7 March 2018 20: 23
          It’s not a matter of price ... But in transit. Here force will happen and nothing will go through the Ruin. SP2 has not yet been built .. And ...? We will certainly throw gas carriers from Yamal .. But still. Well, you understand me. Frau Merkel should think who is HU ..
          Quote: NF68
          Well, about the shoelaces it can happen earlier .. By the way, Germany should be strained .. There can be a redirection of flows. No, you will not stay without gas, just the PRICE!


          The Russian authorities will not especially lift the gas price for Germany. And gas prices also concern the other most “significant” EU countries. The Baltic States and Poland do not exactly apply to these countries. Let them even buy peas and "produce" gas themselves. Or buy more expensive American liquefied gas.
          1. +5
            7 March 2018 20: 33
            Quote: 210ox
            It’s not a matter of price ... But in transit. Here force will happen and nothing will go through the Ruin. SP2 has not yet been built .. And ...? We will certainly throw gas carriers from Yamal .. But still. Well, you understand me. Frau Merkel should think who is HU ..


            The main part of the heating season is already behind. Gas reserves in Germany will last for about 3 months with the highest gas consumption. As far as I know, SP-1 is far from always used for all 100%. And where and no matter how the Germans looked, but somehow it’s really peaceful to reason the horses with them for a year now. The same goes for the French. They are also tired of horses horses with their twists. And by the end of the 2019 of the year, don’t forget the horses that they want something and do with their empty pipe no one needs it.
            1. +18
              7 March 2018 20: 44
              Quote: NF68
              The main part of the heating season is already behind

              And someone writes with a warm hand
              On the frozen trolleybus glass:
              "Brace yourself, people, summer is coming!"
              And it makes everyone feel warmer ...
              1. +4
                7 March 2018 20: 46
                "And the neighbor’s knives are not sharpened ..."
                lol
              2. +1
                7 March 2018 21: 02
                Quote: Masya Masya
                Quote: NF68
                The main part of the heating season is already behind

                And someone writes with a warm hand
                On the frozen trolleybus glass:
                "Brace yourself, people, summer is coming!"
                And it makes everyone feel warmer ...


                The horses will end up like an old woman with a broken trough. Only instead of the trough there will be a rusty pipe.
                1. +12
                  7 March 2018 22: 47
                  "... Groisman: Gazprom must comply with the decisions of the Stockholm and Ukrainian courts ..."

                  Haha! Only decisions of the Basmanny court.
                  But seriously, let Goroysman try to ask the store for a bottle of vodka at a discount. Motivating that he has already drunk all the money. And showing the wife’s note, “Give this drunk a bottle, the whole staircase has already been lifted up!”
                  1. 0
                    7 March 2018 22: 50
                    Quote: Reserve officer
                    But seriously, let Goroysman try to ask the store for a bottle of vodka at a discount. Motivating that he has already drunk all the money. And showing the wife’s note, “Give this drunk a bottle, the whole staircase has already been lifted up!”

                    you probably didn’t quite understand the arbitration decision.
                    Gazprom must return Ukraine overpaid money.
                    request
                    1. +12
                      7 March 2018 23: 09
                      Are you worried about arbitration? Remember the company Leg? Sent to hell. Journalist Gordon correctly said that strong states do not pay. Only Groysman and Karish get richer in thought.
                    2. +1
                      7 March 2018 23: 21
                      Quote: karish
                      Quote: Reserve officer
                      But seriously, let Goroysman try to ask the store for a bottle of vodka at a discount. Motivating that he has already drunk all the money. And showing the wife’s note, “Give this drunk a bottle, the whole staircase has already been lifted up!”

                      you probably didn’t quite understand the arbitration decision.
                      Gazprom must return Ukraine overpaid money.
                      request

                      I remember in the agreement there is \ was a take or pay item, is it still valid? as far as I remember on this topic, our bill was put on a bunch of lards, you’ll just take a mutt from a mutt, it could be wrong, don’t kick much
                      1. +1
                        8 March 2018 01: 06
                        could be wrong, do not kick much

                        No, that's right. The fuss due to the fact that “take gas for yourself or pay” was suddenly considered unnecessary for Ukraine because of its “poverty”, and for Russia, in fact, the same thing “download so much in transit or pay” is mandatory.
                    3. +1
                      7 March 2018 23: 30
                      Demand in ,, Stockkman ,, overpayment for a bottle, seeing this around the corner in a stall)))
                    4. 0
                      8 March 2018 05: 19
                      Of course, there is a certain logic in the court decision. Ukraine motivated not the fulfillment of the requirements of the “take or pay” contract by the war and the crisis, but Gazprom’s reduction in gas demand in the EU, at the same time Gazprom pumped as much gas through SP-1 as it did through Ukraine, therefore, the arbitrators considered Ukraine’s arguments about war, etc. convincing, and the arguments of Gazprom to reduce demand are not convincing. On the other hand, the decision still violates the balance of interests, since it exempts one of the parties from “take or pay” conditions, and the other requires that the terms “download or pay” be fulfilled, while the reasons for not fulfilling these conditions when one of the parties awards monetary compensation, idea should not have any meaning. I think the court examined these two disputes separately, without linking them to each other, which is probably formally correct (since there are 2 different contracts for supply and transit), but in fact it’s still not quite right, since it upsets the balance of private interests in favor of one of the parties .
            2. 0
              7 March 2018 22: 09
              Now Trump will completely get Europe (namely, the serious countries of Europe, not the EU) with his trade war, and SP-2 will go without grease, and the remnants of patience and loans for the Kiev region will end completely.
            3. 0
              7 March 2018 23: 01
              Quote: NF68
              And where and no matter how the Germans looked, but somehow it’s really peaceful to reason the horses with them for a year now. The same goes for the French.

              Have they even tried? Something I do not remember such moments ...
        2. +2
          7 March 2018 21: 14
          Here we must immediately say: Gazprom is not the mother of Teresa, not a charitable organization. In the near future, the largest consumer of our gas is China. While Gazprom is building pipes there, it waves to Europe and smiles. Very soon, the gas flow will switch to China, and Europe will receive condensed gas, which will further reduce its competitiveness over China
    5. +1
      7 March 2018 20: 05
      It's funny to see how the Sumerians-natives begin to "arrest" something, the ambition of not just one pair of bloomers, and the cat cried for nothing. Maybe you should not wait for the end of the World Cup, but continue to actively collect Russian lands squandered by the Communists.
      1. +2
        7 March 2018 20: 22
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        and continue to actively collect Russian lands squandered by the Communists.


        With dives from Western Ukraine? If Stalin knew what all this would lead to after him, he would definitely return them to Poland with wishes on toiling properly.
        1. 0
          7 March 2018 23: 25
          Quote: NF68
          Quote: ancestors from the Don
          and continue to actively collect Russian lands squandered by the Communists.


          With dives from Western Ukraine? If Stalin knew what all this would lead to after him, he would definitely return them to Poland with wishes on toiling properly.

          what for? all debts to them, they want to be Ukrainians - pzhlastsysta, pay for the debts of Ukraine and will not touch you
    6. +27
      7 March 2018 20: 08
      I wonder if Groysman himself understood what he said.

      Rather, this is what he meant. laughing
      1. +31
        7 March 2018 20: 31
        Quote: vlad66
        Rather, this is what he meant.

        yes no need to worry - everything will be fine there soon laughing
        1. +6
          7 March 2018 22: 49
          This is what you strongly wrapped .. Mentally so to speak!
    7. 0
      7 March 2018 21: 58
      Gazprom must comply with the verdict of the Stockholm arbitration, as well as comply with the requirements of the antimonopoly body of Ukraine and the decisions of Ukrainian courts.

      Yeah, SHCHYAZ! And they will have questions for the Phishington Regional Committee, will they also speak out and demand ?! Nu-Nu ... It will be interesting to see after that on them!
    8. 0
      8 March 2018 23: 03
      3 billion do not seem to be very returned? Strange, the decision of the High Court of England was made.
  2. +5
    7 March 2018 19: 55
    - Mykola!
    - Ha?
    - I’ve been wedging it in!
    - Drag here!
    - That don’t go!
    “So the id itself!”
    - Don't let it go !!!
  3. +4
    7 March 2018 19: 56
    Goofy ... the Sumerians with Jewish roots gave a voice, to see the curators called .... DB he is DB. Remember, dude, Gazprom will ultimately owe nothing to anyone, and again, if you don’t, they can put a stake on ...... and the United States will not help, since there will be GDP in the pits in Borispol.
  4. NKT
    +2
    7 March 2018 19: 57
    Interestingly, when the first verdict was announced that Ukraine should pay Gazprom, none of them rushed to execute the decision, almost three months passed. And then the very next day they began to call Gazprom, such as when and, prizes were issued to themselves with cars wink
  5. 0
    7 March 2018 19: 58
    And Groysman himself should rather be washing the rope. In order not to hurt ...
  6. +9
    7 March 2018 19: 59
    I wonder if Groysman himself understood what he said.

    the main thing is to shake the air ... and so menacingly lol
    Gazprom must comply with the decisions of Stockholm and Ukrainian ships

    what does it say? must, but not obliged !!! wink ours, to you, with a brush ... tongue
    1. 0
      7 March 2018 20: 13
      It looks like Gazprom has already paid the penalty hi Correct if I'm wrong
      1. +2
        7 March 2018 20: 38
        Forfeit on appeal (on appeal). They returned the advance payment for March to Nafta and on the 1st of the day they closed the valve for Ukraine.
    2. +9
      7 March 2018 20: 13
      Marinochka Vitalievna love love love
      ours, to you, with a brush ...

      We are always ready ... with tassels wink
      1. +13
        7 March 2018 20: 21
        Sergey, hello there! love
        here are pretty brushes ...
        love
        PS I'm glad to see !!! love
      2. +4
        7 March 2018 22: 57
        Wow !!! Caracal... belay
        Hello, Sergey !!! hi
        I had a dream in childhood, to tame this ... Uncle the hunter was, promised to bring .. Yes, I myself saw from afar, 100 km from Alma-Ata ... And Dad, when he was a kid, he speaks to the outskirts came out .. And droffs, too.
        Just don’t say that it’s also yours ..? belay
        1. +2
          8 March 2018 02: 50
          Greetings Stas hi
          Just don’t say that it’s also yours ..?

          Of course not. I can’t contain such a force, and he will gobble up the rest of mine at once. Listen, it’s very convincing:
          1. +1
            8 March 2018 05: 19
            Agony !!! good
            "He began, I let him out .. He comes and lies, well-fed and pleased ... Well, at least he won’t ask me to eat" ... laughing
            Hi hi !!
            1. +2
              8 March 2018 05: 26
              Hi hi !!

              Nearby sits and reads, even transmitting is not required. wink
    3. +5
      7 March 2018 23: 10
      Marin, are you burning today in honor of the holiday?
  7. 0
    7 March 2018 20: 00
    that's all they owe something laughing
  8. +4
    7 March 2018 20: 03
    Unfortunately, the international of various Groisman continues to build all sorts of tricks for Russia.
  9. +4
    7 March 2018 20: 04
    We’ll rush around ......................................... Sorry for the obscene. His time will come .
  10. 0
    7 March 2018 20: 09
    Gazprom will throw appeals in response, and will quietly announce that until the issue is resolved, it finally considers the fulfillment of contracts and the previous court decision to be unfeasible
  11. 0
    7 March 2018 20: 11
    What Grosman told Gazprom to spit. But what the European Court said is an argument. What about Gazprom?
    1. NKT
      +3
      7 March 2018 20: 18
      What is a European court? Stockholm Arbitration is a commercial enterprise.
      Gazprom filed an appeal.
  12. +12
    7 March 2018 20: 14
    Kiev. In the morning. Mother instructs her son: - "Lesha, look Kaka Garn, the divine Gann, I would invite to the cinema ..."
    - Mamo, I love Vovchik ....
    Shock. Preinfarction condition.
    - So Muscovite wines !!!
  13. +1
    7 March 2018 20: 15
    Well done guy, made laugh, after the resignation in the "Full House" they will take without samples, Petrosyan will be the receiver
  14. +3
    7 March 2018 20: 16
    Here Groysman is a troll! High level. Drilling will go like from a gas well.
  15. +5
    7 March 2018 20: 19
    In what madhouse did he miss until he was released? And why released? fool
    1. DDR
      +2
      7 March 2018 20: 33
      Quote: Herkulesich
      In what madhouse did he miss until he was released? And why released?

      And there after the 14th, many were released. laughing
  16. +1
    7 March 2018 20: 19
    Below the word of gunpowder is that no one has the right to dictate terms to Ukropiya. Groysman decided to shove his arms and dictatorship into the masses. Sadly, the pug will not scare the elephant by barking! Well, we will watch the big top further.
  17. 0
    7 March 2018 20: 25
    Well, Gazprom can safely ignore Ukrainian laws, because there is no commercial activity on the territory of this gadyushnik. And as for the Stockholm decision, at least a year ahead of the appeal proceedings. Although, during this year it may be cheaper to mix this misunderstanding with manure.
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    1. +3
      7 March 2018 20: 27
      Ukrainians will sell. Mania is.
  19. +3
    7 March 2018 20: 26
    Groysman-morons have no place in life. Politics do not count.
  20. +2
    7 March 2018 20: 27
    As he was the bazaar director, he remained so!
    I’d better go to the circus, to amuse the people!
  21. +6
    7 March 2018 20: 29
    = Ukraine’s position in the situation with Gazprom should be tough and consistent. = (Groisman)
    = Ah pug, to know she is strong ... = Grandfather Krylov.
  22. +5
    7 March 2018 20: 32
    He is so sleek, he eats exclusively gobs .. winked
    There’s a box in front of her nose ..
    They say the hanged do not suffocate, but drown in their own vomit. wassat
  23. +3
    7 March 2018 20: 35
    The dispute in Stockholm is not over yet, and the seizure of Gazprom’s property abroad is not in the competence of the courts of Ukraine. Such incompetent statements by the leaders of Ukraine only disgrace the country. Although this is not the competence of the leadership in the rules of Ukraine.
    President Petro Poroshenko thanked Sweden, represented by Defense Minister Peter Hultqvist, for ensuring a fair trial in the Stockholm arbitration in the case of Naftogaz Ukrainy against Gazprom

    Well, something like this:
    Andrey Portnov
    Monday
    Poroshenko thanked the Swedish defense official for the decision of the Stockholm arbitration against Gazprom.
    Explain to someone near the dictator that it is only in his courts that you can thank an executive officer for a judicial decision.
    And also explain that the international commercial arbitration in Stockholm to Sweden has exactly the same relation as the Interpol located in Lyon to France and the EU office in Belgium located in Brussels.
  24. +10
    7 March 2018 20: 41
    Now the sleeves will roll up and start squeezing assets, like a stall in the old days on its market.
    1. 0
      8 March 2018 03: 38
      In the old days, the same thing happened "off-ramp raids" feel , then there were many such "greyhounds" as Groysman, who did not follow the bazaar; lol If this sick coast would be safe, it’s not even an hour — it will choke on candy in plain sight.
  25. +2
    7 March 2018 20: 52
    And they have already given us 3 billion
    1. +3
      7 March 2018 21: 40
      And they didn’t think!
  26. +3
    7 March 2018 21: 04
    Say what you like, but they’ve bent Gazprom and will have to pay. Well now they’ll be smarter before they make concessions for Ukrainians, otherwise the “brotherly people” cannot be offended.
    1. +2
      7 March 2018 21: 21
      Gazprom "bent" at the time of signing the contracts, once, for all seven years, when Gazprom did not hit finger to finger in order to change the conditions that were enslaving for us. And the arbitration only confirmed this, and in the most soft for us and inconvenient for Ukraine form. For example, it is realistic, without signing an additional agreement on the supply, we have every right to refuse to supply gas to Naftogaz, which actually happens)). But the decision of the arbitration could be different ..
      1. NKT
        +2
        7 March 2018 21: 38
        What, for example, the enslaving conditions for Gazprom were in the 2009 agreement, sound !?
        1. +1
          7 March 2018 22: 06
          It's not over yet, in fact! And according to the action they can just send extremely ...
      2. 0
        8 March 2018 05: 46
        This is stupidly simple - some kind of “court” in Stolholm, acting in a dispute, by a third party, writes a fine on all the profits of some company. Ohrenel simply judges in this Stolholm. They don’t care - they do not depend on decisions. 2 million people live in Sweden, they stuck to the Norwegians, they produce gas and oil, they themselves produce it, and even they will provide themselves with ships. and 488 of the remaining millions of EU will be on the drain. The Americans will laugh again. Saw Ukraine - they generally have a tragic scenario, the development of events. They will not “kill” anyone here with their idiotic verdicts — whom will they make laugh — Americans or what? They will soon stop laughing in the circus, with such visits.
    2. +2
      7 March 2018 21: 52
      Gazprom will not pay anything - the official position.
      1. +1
        8 March 2018 19: 59
        Gazprom itself chose the Stockholm arbitration as an arbitrator; therefore, it agreed to their decision.
  27. 0
    7 March 2018 21: 11
    And Ukraine, the decision of the district court of the village of Gadyukino!
  28. Hey
    +3
    7 March 2018 21: 11
    The main joke is that they can do it.
    Who says Gazprom will win the appeal?
    If we take into account the current attitude of the West towards Russia and specifically towards Gazprom, I will not be particularly surprised about the beginning of such a procedure in Europe.
    I remember at the beginning of the two thousandth, at the request of a little-known firmochka, property was already seized, because of this, our planes did not even fly to the air show. Then they settled the question, but "drank the blood."
    1. +2
      7 March 2018 22: 15
      Everything is complicated and simple at the same time! They sent PACE where it should have been, the ECHR is in line, we won’t have time to blink and the WTO will go to the same address! They will rock the boat, otfutbolim and beat off from hitting!
      It’s difficult, of course, but it’s so simple, just start, it will go by itself!
  29. +2
    7 March 2018 21: 17
    That's interesting, apparently God is and he forgives us ... After signing such contracts, we were obliged to roll us into a thin pancake in the courts, and with ten billion payments. BUT! There is Volodya Groysman, who did not even understand that, apart from money, the arbitration decision (and this is far from a court of general jurisdiction) contains a norm on the non-application of Ukrainian and European antitrust laws to the transit contract. That is, without recognizing a part of the arbitration decision and not contesting it further in the instance, the party cannot selectively apply the provisions of this decision. Those. Naftogaz is not money, but shish! or they must sue the arbitration award and indicate what specifically they are not comfortable with in this decision. Here either married or unbearable laughing
    But how fabulously lucky we are for ukrodol ... bov. Oh god even our incompetent lazy people from Gazprom cannot improve their ukrokarm ...
    1. +1
      7 March 2018 22: 45
      Explain, please, what kind of "speech" of our gas specialists is to cut off gas to Ukraine? As I understand it, Gazprom has a contract until the end of 19th year. ? If possible, in your own words. Thank you.
    2. 0
      8 March 2018 05: 38
      why gloat — you’ve seen the post of the USSR if you saw the same 90s in Ukraine, just Jews there are 100% of the power. They will anneal, only on the road. Poroshenko begins his speeches "yay hev" - I have. He has billions that he will freeze in five minutes - they already work for the USA, the fucking Rabbit ran every day in am. the embassy asked if their accounts would be frozen — that’s all this ridiculous power. After them, the room was ventilated - garlic, fumes - top-level figures of Ukraine. They say that today accounts will not be frozen, hinting that they would resort tomorrow - such things amuse people. So they run, every day, like hares. All the idiocy of the situation is created by the Americans. And not these billionaires who saw the people of Ukraine.
  30. +1
    7 March 2018 21: 22
    yes sent them all to hell no nicert they will not do
  31. +2
    7 March 2018 21: 27
    Groysman: Gazprom must comply with the decisions of the Stockholm and Ukrainian courts
    Well, the Ukrainian court first of all needs to be executed ... why is there Stockholm ...
  32. +1
    7 March 2018 21: 27
    Yes, they will pay the most. To send bailiffs to Gazprom from the National Corps - they will pay as pretty. The decision of the Ukrainian courts, binding, is it in vain that the "heroes" of Atlantis were built? Somewhere out there and exact ...
  33. +1
    7 March 2018 21: 31
    Why should Gazprom do this?
  34. +3
    7 March 2018 21: 34

    Poroshenko's dream come true ...
  35. 0
    7 March 2018 22: 04
    Taki Groysmanam always all must
  36. 0
    7 March 2018 22: 14
    Since when has Ukrainian legislation acquired such "universal proportions" that companies of even foreign countries are required to comply with decisions of Ukrainian courts?
    So Ukraine on over everything! laughing
  37. +1
    7 March 2018 22: 29
    Sapsem, a purebred Ukrainian, became stunned or blazed by something .. it would be better if coal ceased to supply oil products as well. And also to return the Gaster patriots to their homeland ..
  38. 0
    7 March 2018 22: 29
    So I do not understand! Ukraine what? Did they shut off the gas? belay
  39. +2
    7 March 2018 22: 30
    Ukrainians decided to work with partners mouth ... for arrest ...)))
  40. +2
    7 March 2018 22: 47
    Gazprom may raise gas prices for Russian consumers to compensate for the costs of the Naftogaz scandal and the payment of possible forfeits. https://news.rambler.ru/economics/39297595-gazova
    ya-voyna-s-ukrainoy-udarit-po-rossiyanam /? utm_sou
    rce = head & utm_campaign = self_promo & utm_medi
    um = news & utm_content = news & utm_term = clid_m
    1. +2
      8 March 2018 00: 22
      Quote: Snail N9
      Gazprom may raise gas prices for Russian consumers to compensate for the costs of the Naftogaz scandal and the payment of possible forfeits. https://news.rambler.ru/economics/39297595-gazova
      ya-voyna-s-ukrainoy-udarit-po-rossiyanam /? utm_sou
      rce = head & utm_campaign = self_promo & utm_medi
      um = news & utm_content = news & utm_term = clid_m


      Horseradish wait. Rather, for the American raise.
    2. +1
      8 March 2018 04: 53
      Hello "free" man feeding someone else's army (these are your words).
      Your "opinions" and garbage information are very important for us, stay on the line .............
    3. +1
      8 March 2018 05: 28
      Even today they are unbearable - three thousand, five thousand a month, in winter to heat the house with gas. They have a conspiracy with power engineers - the same three five thousand heating by electricity, at home. They are evil capitalists, these energy offices, and nowhere to raise it - a pension of 5 thousand, and gas of three thousand. Is this the purpose of the whole circus? Russians have problems, all Ukraine puts on silk pants, and celebrates? Morons, as Lavrov said. Energy is development - and so breaking the supply of the EU, with virtually free energy, is simply not beneficial for the EU. Ukrainian grossamns, shnobelmany, are engaged in nonsense. How it ends - the United States will carry gas by ships, sell for a ruble, five kopecks, and Ukraine will give handouts so that they do not freeze, like the Red Cross. It’s not from the USSR to play toys, that’s cruel.
  41. +2
    7 March 2018 23: 09
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I wonder if Groysman himself understood what he said.

    This people knows everything that will be ..! They will rob everything. what remains in Ukraine .. angry


    and sho there ischo left ??
  42. +2
    7 March 2018 23: 49
    The prime minister has extensive practical experience in the Vinnitsa bazaar.
    Moreover, "Today I talked about our actions in this regard with the Minister of Justice of Ukraine Pavel Petrenko." And, Pavlo, too, has extensive practical experience!
  43. +2
    8 March 2018 00: 36
    The eccentric is richer in thought. And sits without gas))
  44. 0
    8 March 2018 02: 55
    He sees the eye - but the tooth is numb! But this is a softer version of the more reasonable "Get the fools not Gazprom with gas, but the ears of a dead donkey with a tail in addition!"
  45. 0
    8 March 2018 04: 16
    this ny this dill folk !!! ??? - what's next ?
  46. 0
    8 March 2018 05: 15
    it is arrogance, where it is not a second happiness, but a tragic misfortune. Ukraine is a parody of the ridiculous Poland "great" - about which they say that they have royal furs on their neck, and a naked dupa. Only if it is ridiculous with the Poles, then for the Ukrainians, they are a parody of laughter. He needs money, Grosman, he decided to break away at the hoop - such a hoop will end unpredictably, but such approaches, this is already a decision - to bring down Ukraine, at the "highest" Ukrainian level, their officials, "courts" from the gateway. They just decided to merge Ukraine, because they do not know how to keep it.
  47. +1
    8 March 2018 05: 21
    dauria,
    Not certainly in that way. Gazprom’s arguments on reducing the demand for gas in the EU were considered unconvincing, since it was pumping through Ukraine almost as much as during the same period it was pumped through SP-1
  48. +1
    8 March 2018 05: 24
    well, descendants of the Sumerians. They can do everything
  49. 0
    8 March 2018 06: 43
    Dreaming is not bad, it's bad not to dream.
  50. 0
    8 March 2018 07: 34
    Look who are the shareholders of Gazprom and think ...
    Will such shareholders give their money? Ha ha (3 times)
  51. 0
    8 March 2018 09: 14
    “Zealous implementers” of the Minsk agreements teach the world how to implement international agreements.
    There is such a profession - to trade in the homeland...... (Ukrainian politicians).
  52. 0
    8 March 2018 11: 25
    There’s one thing I don’t understand, their courts are making decisions one after another that Gazprom owes, so why doesn’t our fairest Basmanny court make decisions every day that Khokhlopstan owes 100500 lard dollars for any reason, from monopolism in transit to a pipe painted the wrong color.
  53. +1
    8 March 2018 12: 22
    They have a competition there, or something: who can eat the fattest face, who can make the most nonsense?
  54. 0
    8 March 2018 12: 33
    It is not clear that the world has converged like a wedge in Stockholm, why not China or India or Brazil? Why should we implement unjust decisions of the dependent courts of Sweden? Or maybe it’s time to close membership in the Council of Europe, as an engaged and not independent organization.
  55. 0
    8 March 2018 15: 15
    Let him wrap his dick around the snob!
    1. +4
      8 March 2018 15: 29
      Quote: KIBL
      for a shnobel

      Better for a rasp, IMHO. Or even on a windlass Yes
  56. +1
    8 March 2018 15: 19
    Yes, answer these “weirdos” in the same way - fine Naftogaz for the monopoly on transit in the Basmanny Court by 300 billion for overpayment of transit fees since 91 crying . They are currently simply inadequately brave.
  57. 0
    8 March 2018 16: 56
    Quote: vadson
    all the debts to them, they want to be Ukrainians - please, pay off the debts of Ukraine and they will not touch you


    This is fundamentally a “not right” approach. Everyone always owes something exclusively to Ukraine. And the horses will forgive and forget all their debts. Should they bother with such trifles as debt repayment?
  58. wow
    0
    8 March 2018 19: 06
    "...Gazprom should..." And your face won't crack...?
  59. 0
    9 March 2018 23: 07
    Schazzz.... let's drop everything and start performing... especially.. outskirts WITH WHOM to come here

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