NATO leads Saakashvili by the nose

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NATO leads Saakashvili by the noseThe turbulent romance of the Georgian leader Mikhail Saakashvili and the North Atlantic alliance, which had faded away, was unilaterally after the South Ossetian adventure of the Georgian leader, has every chance of inflaming new passions after the May summit of NATO to be held in Chicago. New tender feelings for the Georgian president and his overwhelming desire to join NATO arose among many NATO officials, with the clear and active support of the US State Department. The fact is that Mrs. Clinton during the Brussels meeting of foreign ministers of NATO member states and states that are willing to sleep at the front door of the Alliance, met with the head of Georgian diplomacy, during which a very remarkable document was born. This document is the first step towards the removal of all barriers to Georgia’s admission to NATO. Or, at least, the Americans themselves are trying to present this paper in this way ... In the document, the authors insist that Russia withdraw its military contingent from Abkhazia and South Ossetia and provide Tbilisi with the opportunity to resolve the issues of territorial integrity on its own.

In addition to American support, Georgia was honored with flattering words from NATO Secretary General Mr. Rasmussen. He stated that he highly appreciates the assistance rendered to the North Atlantic Alliance by Georgian military units in counter-terrorism operations. And in order to finally hope for Mikhail Saakashvili and his active supporters, Rasmussen said that Georgia, perhaps, has never been so close to NATO as it is today. After the May summit, the NATO Secretary General promised to make a kind of “strong statement” on Georgia’s membership, which would literally turn the world ...

It should be noted that today the status of Georgia in relation to the North Atlantic Alliance is very blurred. Georgia itself, led by its leader, actively wants to be under the wing of Washington, Brussels and Euro-PRO. Many NATO members are also not opposed to inviting Mikhail Saakashvili to their undoubtedly friendly family. But there are a number of states (for example, Germany, France, Italy and Spain) that do not see prospects in accepting Georgia into the Alliance. It is this internal reticence and the presence of unresolved domestic issues in Georgia that prevent the Georgian president from riding on a white horse into the courtyard of the NATO headquarters in Brussels.
However, to say that Georgia in the foreseeable future will not become a member of NATO, the West also can not afford. And so that the Georgian leader was not completely disappointed, but at the same time he didn’t come too close, Brussels came up with an excellent formulation for the Georgian status: “Alliance graduate student country”. In other words, Saakashvili hints that at least a few few years will have to learn to become a candidate for membership first, and then, with good behavior, maybe there will be a chance to directly join.

The one who came up with the phrase “graduate student country” obviously needs to shake hands with creative thinking. Well, this should be so skillfully sent that the sender did not even understand that he was sent ...

Recall that today the candidates for joining NATO are Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia. It was candidates, not graduate students ... Until recently, Macedonia had the least chances among the indicated states to join the Alliance, which was blocked by Greece. But today Greece itself is far from being in the situation in which it is possible to dictate any conditions, so we can expect that NATO will expand once again precisely at the expense of these three Balkan republics.
Mikhail Saakashvili, in all likelihood, will have to go to the candidates for candidates ("graduate students") until the end of his presidency.

The Americans, who have once received a “gift” from the Georgian president in the form of provocation not fully agreed with the White House in South Ossetia, will now do everything to keep Georgia on a short, harsh leash. So that Saakashvili did not run far away (although where he will now run off), but he also didn’t get confused under his feet. This confirms the very document that was concocted with the active participation of Hillary Clinton: they say, let us order Russia to withdraw its troops from South Ossetia and Abkhazia. All the adequate people understand that Russia now will not derive its troops from these two Republics anywhere, but that’s adequate ...

Obviously, the American authorities themselves understand this, but somehow the Georgian leadership must be supported, so to speak, morally. Suppose, they say, in Tbilisi they think that before NATO only one step remains: the withdrawal of Russian troops from the territory of the unrecognized by Georgia independent states that emerged after Saakashvili’s provocation on its territory and the return entry of these states into Georgia. - And just that ... A sort of carrot that makes one famous animal walk along the same path as the driver.

And here the Georgian leader himself falls into a trap: due to the fact that Russia, naturally, will not withdraw its troops from Abkhazia and South Ossetia (at least in the next few years), the internal territorial conflict for Georgia will not be resolved. This means that “Old Europe” still will not vote for Georgia’s membership in NATO. It turns out that Tbilisi will have to abandon either its obsession with getting into the Alliance, or its territorial claims to Sukhum and Tskhinval. Obviously, neither the one nor the other is unacceptable today for Mikhail Saakashvili. After all, the current Georgian leader is pulling his country under the NATO wing in order to conduct another "victorious" war.

Let us try for a second to imagine what will happen if the NATO countries nevertheless express themselves in favor of being admitted to the Alliance of Georgia in its current state with its current president. Obviously, with all of his declared pacifism, Saakashvili will even draw on bringing constitutional order in South Ossetia or Abkhazia once again. And in this case, Russia will again have to "force peace" for the president, the "pacifist." And if so, then in the conflict, whether they want it or not, it will be necessary for other NATO states to intervene, because according to the Organization’s Charter, military action against one of the Alliance members (no matter who starts them) should be a military response from all member countries . Naturally, none of the sensible modern politicians will not allow Georgia to take advantage of its entry into NATO in order to draw the same Germans, French, Italians and Spaniards into the war against Russia. Of course, there are enough provocateurs in the European Union, but still a reasonable grain is present in the heads of the leaders of many states that belong to the North Atlantic Alliance.

It turns out that today NATO has to use the sweet roll method with respect to Georgia so that the “child” is not upset. In this regard, in a couple of years Brussels will have to come up with a new status for Georgia: for example, “almost membership” or “shortage” in order to continue to delay the date of the actual words pronounced in Georgian status for an indefinite period.
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  1. +28
    April 24 2012 08: 39
    They took him so long and so dreary for a nose that Mishiko completely demolishes the tower.



    Look guys at this boar. Before that, infa appeared that the opposition parties were demanding an examination of Mishiko for drug use. I think there will still be videos where the loaf will "hang"
    1. vadimus
      +18
      April 24 2012 08: 46
      For a tie they drive him and not only NATO. He’s a clown and a clown in Georgia ...
      1. +12
        April 24 2012 09: 25
        З laughing then he ran into it ... He generally became 20 years later than needed to become president .. Maybe he would be in 90 and he would have failed .. Now Oleg Popov is a miserable amateur next to him ...
        1. lotus04
          0
          April 26 2012 03: 59
          Oleg Popov, what for? Favorite "Sunny Clown" of childhood! How can they be equal? Rather, "Malchish-Bad" is in the service of "BOURGEOIN", but such a "high-quality"!
      2. Neighbor
        +1
        April 24 2012 17: 44
        Quote: vadimus
        He’s a clown and a clown in Georgia ...

        More likely - a girl of very easy virtue !!!! belay
    2. +8
      April 24 2012 09: 01
      Again, Alexey perfectly spelled out the scenarios for Georgia ... Does Tbilisi really not understand this? Or did the anti-Russian rhetoric completely dry up brains? Why did the entire leadership of the country? Clown finishes his presidency and will soon go to teach political science at some native American university. .. laughing
      1. +10
        April 24 2012 10: 07
        Quote: domokl
        A clown finishes his presidency and will soon go to teach political science at some native American university ...

        This reptile can do many dirty tricks at parting. It is not for nothing that ours are now so intensively training fighters and driving weapons into South Ossetia.
        am ------- Ex-Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze on Monday commented on the fears of Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that Georgian leader Mikheil Saakashvili could arrange a new provocation in the Caucasus, similar to what happened in 2008. The correspondent of the newspaper VIEW in Tbilisi reports.
        “Sergei Lavrov’s suspicions to some extent may be based on the fact that TV constantly advertises the latest Georgian military equipment,” said Eduard Shevardnadze

        Such suspicions, he said, are "theoretically acceptable." “A new provocation is permissible. Why? Ask Saakashvili. But I understand Lavrov’s fears, ”he told the Asaval-dasavali newspaper.
        Georgia has already demonstrated its BMP, APCs, missile fire system, and unmanned aircraft. A 100 thousandth reserve is being created in the country.

        The other day, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov at a press conference as part of a meeting of the Russia-NATO Council said that the Russian authorities are afraid that Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili might crank up another adventure in the Caucasus, and are surprised at the preservation of the status of candidate for NATO membership in Georgia. Lavrov stressed that it’s blasphemous for NATO to continue to exaggerate the topic of “territorial integrity” of Georgia.

        The head of the Russian foreign ministry also said that preservation of Georgia’s status of candidate for NATO membership is perplexing and wary.

        “Now, NATO partners still mention Georgia among the so-called graduate students in their documents. We are perplexed and, frankly, wary, because the process of remilitarization of Georgia after the 2008 war of the year is very fast, ”Lavrov said.

        He added that "President Saakashvili, when he was in Washington, said that he had achieved a complete restoration of military supplies, a promise to be accepted into NATO."

        “And although this, in general, is his (Saakashvili’s) interpretation of what happened - as I understand it, he likes to interpret it — this is alarming for us, since we don’t want another destabilization in the South Caucasus due to this man’s next adventure ", The minister summed up.
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        1. +3
          April 24 2012 10: 25
          Quote: esaul
          “Now, NATO partners still mention Georgia among the so-called graduate students in their documents. We are perplexed and, frankly, wary, because the process of remilitarization of Georgia after the 2008 war of the year is very fast, ”Lavrov said.
          Valera, you and I have already discussed the terms of the presidency of Mishiko .. He has been decommissioned and the West is actively looking for a replacement for him .. And the fact that Georgia has come up with a new status for joining NATO is a good sign ... Brussels cannot send it yet (the situation with Iran and Syria is not clear to the end) and does not want to accept (a war with Russia is real when trying to start bombing again in South Ossetia and Abkhazia) ....
          1. Dahlia
            0
            April 25 2012 14: 40
            Still, Rasmussen had to assign Georgia the status not of a "graduate student" of the alliance, but a "Country-kindergarten of the alliance" - there would be much more to grow and grow laughing
        2. Art111
          +5
          April 24 2012 10: 41
          I agree, especially pay attention, the repair of the rock tunnel has been postponed. + situation with Iran.
      2. andrklimanov
        +7
        April 24 2012 10: 16
        Quote: domokl
        Or have anti-Russian rhetoric been completely dried up?

        absolutely true.
        they are friends against Russia, nothing more than them (NATO and Georgia) unites. As much as it is disgusting to realize this, but Georgia will still be admitted to NATO, and precisely because of the "friendship against Russia"

        and with regards to the bear, they used to use drugs containing drugs to treat mental disorders, this explains everything
        1. +4
          April 24 2012 10: 28
          In Georgia, especially among the opposition, calls to check Mishiko’s mental health are heard louder ... This is not a joke, but real actions ... laughing
      3. Antipov
        +5
        April 24 2012 13: 30
        How do you like this scenario?
        1. The United States and NATO start a war with Iran, this is in close proximity to the borders of the CSTO (Armenia). A Russian military base is located on the territory of Armenia, from which there is no direct land connection. At the same time, provocations and bombings of the gas pipeline leading there begin. To ensure security, Russia presents an ultimatum to Georgia demanding unimpeded access of Russian troops through its territory to strengthen, in accordance with the collective security agreement of its base and guarding the transport corridor passing through Georgia and connecting Russia and Armenia (base of the Russian Armed Forces). At the same time, Russian troops stationed in Armenia begin the same, but from the territory of Armenia (establish a border checkpoint on the border between Armenia and Georgia, set up roadblocks in Georgia along the route along which the base will be strengthened). Formally, we are obliged to strengthen our base and provide assistance to our ally.
        2. In the event that Azerbaijan starts a war with Nagorno-Karabakh, and accordingly with Armenia and acts accordingly as an aggressor (formally against Armenia, because Karabakh is not recognized), according to the same agreement on collective security and ensuring the security of its base (formerly total) Russia has the right (and should) demand from Guzia exactly the same (see paragraph 1). Naturally, in both cases, Russia must demand the provision of airspace for aviation flights and the establishment of a no-fly zone over Georgian territory for the Georgian Air Force.
        And does not it seem to the respected interlocutors on the site that these are some of the factors holding back NATO and the USA, and Azerbaijan from such actions?
        Thanks in advance for the answers!
        1. Manshtein_1
          0
          April 24 2012 14: 29
          Then you have a counter-question, while Russia itself at the moment is advisable to get involved in the NATO + US war against Iran ??? And if so, what position should Russia take ???
          1. Antipov
            -1
            April 24 2012 14: 37
            Get involved, and even against Iran, of course not! Moreover, Russia must by all means prevent this war. Those scenarios that I described can only be implemented if this all the same happens ...
            1. Manshtein_1
              0
              April 24 2012 14: 52
              Sorry. I just didn’t see your answer
        2. +1
          April 24 2012 17: 02
          the key phrase is the Russian Armed Forces base in Gyumri (Armenia). There may be more than two options, but if there is a real threat to our military, we will have to make a corridor through Georgia.
          1. Antipov
            -1
            April 25 2012 01: 12
            There is always a real threat (unfortunately). It is time for Russia to play the lead, not to allow the realization of these threats. Now in this region there are no real balances to our Southern military district, even Turkey does not count, the gut is thin. So one must use the right of the strong. The South Caucasus has always been and will be in the zone of national interests of the Russian Federation
    3. raf
      +7
      April 24 2012 09: 07
      Look, it looks like Saakashvili is exactly high, crazy eyes, stupid smile and "absent" look, he is definitely somewhere in "nirvana"!
      1. +9
        April 24 2012 09: 20
        esaul-Valera, its inadequacy for "friends" is just a godsend. Well, where else can you find such an odious figure in the world? Mishiko and others like him are included in the golden collection of "democrats"
        1. +3
          April 24 2012 09: 31
          Greetings buddy! Mishiko - definitely - is preparing for the discharge. But, he’s a cunning guy, he won’t be left without work, he will go to the circus as a clown! drinks
          1. +5
            April 24 2012 09: 36
            Here, here, and out of competition, identity and talent literally rush from my ears drinks
            1. +2
              April 24 2012 09: 45
              Quote: Tersky
              Here, here, and out of competition, identity and talent literally rush from my ears

              Then you frowned a little, buddy! This is the hair from his ears. he has not had any brains for a long time. Apparently, ties are very useful for hair growth. So, it is necessary to patent a method for increasing hairiness, then the well-known hair transplantation office (name forgot) will go bankrupt. laughing drinks
              1. 755962
                +4
                April 24 2012 10: 01
                Georgia’s accession to NATO may become a reality, despite the problems with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. After all, the US is interested in expanding the Alliance right at the borders of Russia.
                Igor Korotchenko Chairman of the Public Council under the RF Ministry of Defense: “I think that any NATO norms will be corrected if Washington tries to push Georgia through the accelerated program into the membership of the Alliance. In particular, I intensify preparatory measures. In this regard, I think that the main thing is to work with international public opinion, work with Washington, Brussels. In order to persistently and consistently prove the failure of such Georgia's expectations. And to warn our partners that we will not close our eyes to these things. "
                1. +3
                  April 24 2012 10: 36
                  Quote: 755962
                  Georgia’s entry into NATO may become a reality, despite problems with Abkhazia and South Ossetia
                  I don’t agree ... 1. According to NATO documents, a country having territorial problems inside cannot become a member ... 2. Georgia, if its policy towards South Ossetia and Abkhazia continues, will push NATO to war with Russia, and this is a world war ... 3. Saakashvili has almost been thrown out of politics ... Americans don’t want him anymore and are actively looking for a replacement for 4. Using Georgia as a state to base the terrorists (independence fighters) of the Caucasian republics of Russia was not rational ...
                  The only thing that is interesting in Georgia right now is military bases in the event of a war with Iran .. And this is not a solved problem yet ... So they pull the cat by the tail
                  1. 755962
                    +4
                    April 24 2012 11: 05
                    Quote: domokl
                    I do not agree ...

                    Any standards NATO will be adjusted if Washington tries to push Georgia through the accelerated program to the list of members of the Alliance.
                    They’re tricky ....... these Americans. And be led to their tricks - do not respect yourself. They spat on the rules from the high bell tower. Moreover, they themselves write the rules. It always was. But with bases in Georgia, here you Alexander got to the point! +
                  2. 0
                    April 24 2012 15: 44
                    Many NATO countries have territorial problems. The dispute between Spain and England 300 is not settled a year ago, the same England has its Northern Ireland, and Spain has the Basques. There are decent territorial disputes in general, if you dig.
    4. -11
      April 24 2012 14: 08
      narkotiki? : D on 2-3 dnia ni spal, nu mojet isho vino papil :)
      1. Antipov
        +3
        April 24 2012 14: 09
        Of course I didn’t sleep! Sausage ..... wassat
        1. +1
          April 24 2012 14: 11
          Thinly noticed!
      2. Yarbay
        +12
        April 24 2012 14: 56
        Wine is certainly good))))



        About three years ago, the Japanese delegation came to Tbilisi to provide humanitarian assistance.
        I must say that the Japanese people are very restrained, but in this case even they could not restrain their astonishment and, in a sense, the shock of what they saw.
        Poverty, dilapidated houses on the outskirts, plundered factories. But most of all they were apparently struck by very dense and I would even say massive figures of officials accompanying them.
        They were taken to some places and in the end by the evening they were led to some tents.
        “Refugees live here” - apparently the Japanese thought and they with sad faces entered one of the tents.
        What was their surprise when they saw a richly laid table with all possible Georgian appearances.
        They, with somewhat shocked faces from such abundance, sat at the set table.
        The first toast was delivered by the host, when suddenly a man of enormous size, about two meters tall, weighing about 170-180 kilograms, entered the tent.
        It was two-time world champion in the classic heavyweight wrestling, Dato Teduashvili.
        He, like all great people, is a good-natured person, but like all wrestlers of the classical style he has a very formidable and even frightening appearance.
        He, as a man with regalia, was seated, near honored guests, small and puny Japanese. The Japanese looked at him apprehensively.
        Teduashvili himself was apparently very hungry, so at first, very cloudy, he greeted them and started to eat.
        He was in front of astonished Japanese people, took a whole chicken, carefully and carefully salted it, and one can say it was swallowed.
        Then he took the piglet, he also carefully and carefully salted it, and quickly dealt with it.
        Then he took a huge plate of veal. Again carefully salted it and ate it very quickly.
        Then he took a huge horn of wine, uttered some short toast, and quickly emptied it.
        Japanese eyes widened. But the main thing was ahead of them.
        Teduashvili drained this three-liter horn and filled it with red wine and handed it over to a Japanese man sitting next to him, who, in addition to being the smallest of the Japanese, was the most impressive of them. Because he carefully watched as Teduashvili abundantly salted and absorbed food.
        The Japanese, with trembling hands and frightened eyes, took this horn from the hands of Teduashvili, and began to drink, and of course began to spill wine on himself with no habit.
        He stopped, he wanted to take a napkin to wipe the wine from his clothes, but hospitable Teduashvili stopped him and said loudly:
        -Nothing, nothing!
        And he began to pour salt on the stains of wine on his white shirt ... ..
        Screaming and quickly running away Japanese, caught after a kilometer.)))
        1. +2
          April 24 2012 16: 24
          Yarbay,
          Alibek, buddy, where did you read that! good I made fun - from the heart! Thank! drinks
          1. Yarbay
            +5
            April 24 2012 17: 14
            Dear Valery !! this story is from the tales of the late Anar Mammadkhanov, captain of KVN * Guys from Baku *, he published them under the nickname NEKTO! Today, his family and friends celebrated the anniversary of his death !!
            http://www.atc.az/forum/showthread.php?t=12242


            1982: 1 Secretary of the Komsomol Tbilisi City Committee.
            Very nice guy, funny, kind and most importantly a reveler.
            He, as befits at that time, Komsomol workers of that time had an irregular working day.
            But of course the irregular working day was not every day, and he made good use of it.
            And of course, in addition to the beautiful wife, he also had a mistress.
            So his life passed long enough.
            He came home late and said every time that he was at work.
            And one fine day, his mistress, decided to go vabank.
            While he was taking a shower, she, on the back of his white T-shirt, decided to write a message for his wife with a flamaster. She wrote the following:
            "You and I have been sharing one man for several years now.
            And I love him very much! "
            And so he comes home, before the door opens, takes on a worried look, knocks on the door.
            The wife opens.
            He says in a tired voice that he was in the Central Committee.
            She begs something, he answers and so during the conversation he slowly undresses.
            And standing with his back to his wife, he hears crying and:
            -Wai me!
            He does not understand what happened.
            The wife points to the back of a white T-shirt and sobs even more.
            He goes to the mirror and sees the message of his mistress to his wife.
            He is not lost in telling his wife:
            -What are you crying? (And pointing to the front of the shirt) also take something here answer!))))))))
        2. +1
          April 24 2012 18: 36
          Somehow I got into the stream, I haven’t laughed so long that I don’t stop. Thank. good
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            April 25 2012 06: 53
            To your health !!)))
        3. Set
          Set
          0
          April 24 2012 19: 00
          The Japanese hadabi had to be offered with beef.
    5. Green 413-1685
      +2
      April 24 2012 15: 56
      Are pockets sewn into this schizoid? And judging by the defocused gaze and motility, he has a typical overdose of tranquilizates. Most of the owners fed him sedatives.
    6. Set
      Set
      0
      April 24 2012 17: 38
      Well inserted 0,24 let go, porno fresh fit.
    7. +1
      April 24 2012 19: 02
      Quote: esaul
      Look guys on this boar. At

      Yes, it’s worth it!
    8. lotus04
      0
      April 26 2012 03: 57
      Yes, he, in my opinion, "stoned" !!!
  2. +5
    April 24 2012 08: 50
    Alexey, a very competent analysis! Thank you for the article.
  3. +5
    April 24 2012 09: 19
    In this regard, in a couple of years Brussels will have to come up with a new status for Georgia: for example, “almost membership” or “incompleteness” ...

    Alternatively, you can also enter some unions with abbreviations, for example "Just about a member", "Membership wearing or supporting ..." There is no limit to creativity on this topic ...
    1. +4
      April 24 2012 09: 39
      Quote: Karavan
      or "displeasure"

      Good morning, colleague! This option is more natural and acceptable.laughing
      1. +1
        April 24 2012 09: 54
        I like "Composite Membership!" For "incompleteness" means only that Georgia has other important things to do!
  4. Player
    +4
    April 24 2012 09: 36
    Saakashvili’s position does not meet the fundamental interests of the Georgian people ... because of its political course, the country has finally become impoverished and lives only thanks to US subsidies. Fortunately for him, Georgians for the most part have no interest in politics ... they can go screaming in the square and lose steam, but unfortunately this does not go further. The fact that over the past 20 years Russia has acquired the image of the enemy in the eyes of the Georgians (mistakes of 92-95 + excellent propaganda of the current leaders) is very disturbing, and therefore the Georgians simply do not see an alternative to NATO.
    1. +1
      April 24 2012 16: 54
      Quote: Player
      Georgians simply do not see an alternative to NATO.

      And what does the country's membership in the military bloc give to the common man in terms of improving his situation? Nothing. So what does the alternative have to do with it?
  5. +3
    April 24 2012 09: 43
    Alexey in the article very competently noted that Europe does not need a war with Russia and what for. And there they clearly understand it (at least in Germany). For the Germans, in the first place, the economic component with Russia is important. And I think for Germany it is more detailed than the political games of overseas friends.
  6. vosovec
    +3
    April 24 2012 09: 46
    It is good that in Europe someone else remembers that it is not worth making the "bear" angry and remember past attempts (France, Germany, Italy), and this "bear" also helped someone (Spain against Franco).
    For some reason it seems to me that we would not be particularly opposed if we annexed Georgia at the "request" of its population
    1. +3
      April 24 2012 10: 21
      YES, not you! There would have been so much noise ... What they still think is that Russia started the war.
      1. vosovec
        +4
        April 24 2012 10: 29
        Noise - not some specific action - "Am" there is any noise on the X. Would make some noise ... AND WASTE. They would not fight because of Georgia ... But this is so - dreams. And if in essence - not Our method - Russia has never waged an occupation war and this should be proud of
    2. Antipov
      +1
      April 24 2012 13: 42
      This Bear helped everyone! And the same Germans and French and British and others and others .... The memory of the Europeans is short, short .... What would be the independence of the North American United States without Catherine and Gorchakov? What would happen to the Anglo-Saxons, French and Jews during second world war? What would happen to all of Europe during the Napoleonic Wars? Yes, a bunch of examples!
  7. SectoR
    +2
    April 24 2012 10: 09
    that Georgia was probably never as close to NATO as it is today.
    the closer, the lower ... "incompleteness"
    NATO leads Saakashvili by the nose
    for which it is more convenient to seize, for that it leads ...
  8. party3AH
    +4
    April 24 2012 10: 25
    I sympathize with the brothers Georgians, I had a couple of friends of Georgians in childhood, we stood mountain for each other if someone else slipped into the yard, you come to visit even if you are very full anyway their mothers are stuffed with all sorts of sweets, after the service the paths ran away, but only good memories remained . Misha parasitized all his friendship, he would certainly topple to the states, but his stench was not a weir for many years. request
  9. +5
    April 24 2012 10: 48
    The title of the article is a little inconsistent. probably it was necessary so ...
    NATO leads Saakashvili by the nose, and Russia holds tight to the yail.
  10. +1
    April 24 2012 10: 56
    I wonder what ordinary Georgians think about him? There, the people are not very stupid.
  11. Nechai
    +3
    April 24 2012 11: 03
    Quote: esaul
    I think that there will still be videos where the batono will "hang"

    Yeah, Mishako doesn’t cover the outcast. Tries to return to reality, and again and again it carries and carries away into the distant distance ....
    Quote: domokl
    .1.According to NATO documents, a country having territorial problems inside cannot become a member ..

    Double standards and approaches - this is the practice of Western diplomacy. It will be necessary and will not be noticed for the time being
    Quote: Lantau
    Europe war with Russia and nafig not needed

    Need not. Only in the military-political aspect is Europe not a subject, it is an object.
  12. sergskak
    +5
    April 24 2012 11: 16
    Article plus! Have fun! I remembered one of my favorite films, there was such a phrase: "a violinist is not needed." A similar situation.
  13. Artur09-75
    +5
    April 24 2012 11: 22
    Poor Misha. Either incomplete, then hereditary, then a graduate student member. They have it, it bastards.
    1. +2
      April 24 2012 11: 31
      Quote: Artur09-75
      They have it, it bastards


      Here it is the essence of a true liberal.
  14. Num lock U.A.
    0
    April 24 2012 11: 53
    The one who came up with the phrase “graduate student country” obviously needs to shake hands with creative thinking. Well, this should be so skillfully sent that the sender did not even understand that he was sent ...


    creativity is good smile but just because no one will be creative, that’s why they expect in NATO because of that they drag time
  15. Zlu
    Zlu
    0
    April 24 2012 13: 17
    Saakashvili’s brake. She wants a lot, she wants a little
  16. +1
    April 24 2012 13: 29
    NATO, or rather Amers, needs the territory of Georgia and they do not care about integrity, two factors Iran and the Caspian. Amer is looking for a replacement for a Sasuke and not a simple one, but not related to the idea of ​​the integrity of Georgia, something like Tadic in Serbia, and they need only enough land for the base, the population for service. Why, in itself, Georgia, they have their own Georgia.
  17. +2
    April 24 2012 13: 43
    Mishanya does not calm down however ... However, he is unlikely to ever calm down ...
    Yes, and it seems like in the West they began to slowly realize what kind of fruit this is ... Although, probably, there were also those who had understood this for a long time ...

    Article and author "+". smile
  18. -11
    April 24 2012 14: 12
    nu vi daiote :)
    v nato pachimu ni puskaiut?
    patamuchto abkhazia i samachablo (iujnaia asetia) ni nad nashom kantrole, vot pachimu, kagda strana ni kantraliruiet svai teritorii to on ni mojet vstupits v nato :)
    1. Antipov
      +3
      April 24 2012 14: 19
      Apparently you dear do not read the discussion .... None of the sober-minded people doubts that if necessary, the United States and others will change the rules, well, or just turn a blind eye to them ... For example, Turkey. It has claims to Iran, in addition there are unresolved problems on an ethnic basis (with Kurds), but this did not prevent it from becoming a member of NATO, at the time when this happened, Turkey waged a real war with both Kurds and Greek Cypriots. And nothing, a member of NATO ...
      1. Alsa74
        0
        April 25 2012 10: 08
        GeoTrol does not like to read and is unlikely to know how ... besides, it is unlikely that he respected the current he has done and that’s all ...
    2. vosovec
      +1
      April 24 2012 14: 33
      http://topwar.ru/user/GEOKING95
      They enter, as they say, into what lies on the road ... Aren't you afraid to find yourself in a bigger "NATO" than now? smile
    3. +4
      April 24 2012 15: 29
      And who showed that Abkhazia and South Ossetia is your territory? Have they agreed to be under the jurisdiction of Georgia?
      1. -1
        April 24 2012 22: 42
        laughing
        vi xatite iurisdiqcii? vernite 250 tisich gruzinov v abkhazii i budet vam iudiqcia :)
        1. Antipov
          0
          April 25 2012 01: 02
          OK! Return all Georgians to Kakheti, Svaneti and migraine, leave Abkhazia, Adzharia, Ossetia, Javakheti (there are much more Armenians than Georgians there) and live in real and justified borders. Weak ?! Well then, sit and don’t rock the boat. You are our lawyer!
          1. 0
            April 25 2012 12: 21
            leave Abkhazia, Adzharia, Ossetia, Javakheti ???
            asetini vsigda jili v severnim asetii ani v iujnim asetii
            a tut prichom adjariaa?
        2. Alsa74
          0
          April 25 2012 10: 12
          and what is so little? 11% of the population of Georgia? let's reset all 50% ...
    4. Yarbay
      -1
      April 25 2012 11: 46
      Here is a respected Georgian, therefore, the problem of Abkhazia and South Ossetia will not be decided in favor of Georgia!
      1. +1
        April 25 2012 12: 22
        uvajaemi alsa74 i yarbay
        vaine v akbhazii bili bejenci okolo xnumx tisich chelavek, i tam bili abkhasci toje
        esli bi chitali do vaini chto mi predlagali vi bi etava ni gavarili :)
        1. Yarbay
          -2
          April 25 2012 17: 50
          Dear Georgian !!
          I know everything perfectly and sympathize with you!
          But this is politics, nobody cares what you offered Abkhazians and Ossetians !!
          Both Ossetians and Abkhazians are much less interested in politicians than your relations with NATO !!
          Yes, and a lot of Abkhazians and Ossetians do not care — these politicians !!
          Wouldn’t they be invented !!
  19. Manshtein_1
    -3
    April 24 2012 14: 38
    Antipov,
    Then you have a counter-question, while Russia itself at the moment is advisable to get involved in the NATO + US war against Iran ??? And if so, what position should Russia take ???
    1. Antipov
      0
      April 24 2012 14: 41
      I answered, read above. And why on earth ?! Nato is the main opponent of Russia, and to strengthen this organization, fighting with it on one side only in a nightmare)))) Yes, we have different goals. As if someone did not twist the sting, Nato is a potential adversary. A strange question, however .... And it is strange that he could even arise ...
      1. Manshtein_1
        -4
        April 24 2012 14: 50
        Well, why is the strange Iran a rather dangerous adversary in our south. I'm talking about the North Caucasus. Let's not forget his claim to the Caspian ...
        1. Antipov
          0
          April 24 2012 14: 55
          I think that Iran is not in a position to quarrel with Russia over the Caspian now. Now, on the contrary, it’s super time to press Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan through joint efforts (Russia, Kazakhstan and Iran). By the way, the positions of our three countries in the Caspian were always close. Water was mostly troubled by Turkmens .... Well, Azerbaijan ...
          1. Manshtein_1
            -4
            April 24 2012 15: 01
            First: does Iran itself need this ???? Team up with Russia and Kazakhstan. Second: if something starts suddenly, it will not be difficult for Iran to destabilize the situation in this region. And due to the current situation, this will only be to his advantage. What is called to pull the clamp one is not interesting. There will be opponents and friends. And there are enough of those in the region, even more than ...
            1. Antipov
              +1
              April 24 2012 15: 09
              It seems to us that the USA is trying to destabilize the situation. But, and so on .... Iran, on the contrary, needs a calm atmosphere. If suddenly something begins to destabilize, there will already be nothing)))) Much more unstable. Are you seriously considering the possibility of Russia acting on the side of NATO ?! This is an impossible and bad scenario for Russia itself. It simply cannot be in principle! I repeat, why for ?! To let NATO get even closer to our borders, so that NATO legally has bases in Georgia (they could be there at the beginning of the war and that’s why I proposed options in my first post) ?! No, this cannot be))) Regards ...
              ps Iran does not just need unification, I believe that it is simply necessary. On the other hand, this is not so necessary for us, we can always defend our interests in the Caspian even alone
              1. Manshtein_1
                -1
                April 25 2012 05: 59
                In fact, no one considered the option of Russia's joining NATO. I agree 100 percent that NATO is clearly not our friend, but Iran also seems to me to be the closest friend. Or are you on the principle of the enemy of my enemy, but my friend. Honestly, I'm NOT sure. In my opinion, Russia should have a position that is called "Jewish". We must get as much benefit from this as possible. How is the question separate. But about the fact that if something starts, then there will be nothing to destabilize, I do not agree radically. There is also China, Turkey, Saud. Arabia and others who want to make money on it. Well, there won't be just general chaos. Do not forget that neither NATO nor the United States is doing the policy in this region. It's no longer a secret
        2. +1
          April 24 2012 15: 23
          Manshtein_1,
          Yes, come on, Iran has no complaints against Russia in the Caspian, our positions on demarcation and use converge, and Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan stir up water
  20. lado-6060
    -7
    April 24 2012 15: 11
    Georgia will sooner or later join NATO. The Russian Federation will have to put up with it. Unless pulling up to NATO-EU standards is bad. But territorial problems are not a hindrance. As they themselves noted, the FRG joined NATO, they themselves say so. this is a way of doing business in SUKHUMI http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u23a6EkZD6c there so they meet the Russian businessman. And so is my BATUMI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3roV5kCgS0 fellow MAKE A DIFFERENCE
    1. Alsa74
      0
      April 25 2012 10: 46
      looked 3 times, what does it say that this is Sukhumi? (except for you) and in more detail, please, what is the essence of the conflict ... after the 90s this is so the working moments of business no more ... at least the victim remained alive and free and not like in Georgia ... as in Georgia they meet HERE everyone knows and there is no need to talk about "Russian businessmen-Georgian meetings" ... we felt a DIFFERENCE ... and by the way, "Mikhail Stiopin" and (who posted this video) is interested in hearing his opinion on this video ... he has several VERY interesting (though not without controversial) articles ... for example http://www.abkhazia.narod.ru/abkhchech.htm
  21. 0
    April 24 2012 15: 26
    This topic is already fed up, not to see Mishiko’s membership in NATO as his ears, but the headline, Georgian noses are there to be dragged for them laughing
  22. Altergo
    +2
    April 24 2012 17: 05
    Well, I do not believe that the war in South Ossetia was not agreed by Saakashvili with the United States.
    1. lado-6060
      0
      April 24 2012 18: 10
      On the threshold of the house of the deceased is his friend standing and crying loudly: - I do not believe, I do not believe! The deceased's colleague at work approaches and whispers to the one crying in his ear: - Comrade, miss the one who believes wink
      1. Antipov
        0
        April 25 2012 01: 20
        What are you doing? What a strange humor ... Stories about the fighter and the Japanese. You are not a competitor))))
        1. Alsa74
          +1
          April 25 2012 10: 52
          Well, as I understand it, lado-6060 still can't believe "... I don't believe, I don't believe", that they break off in NATO, not only that, they were cruelly had for such a long time ... wink Well, a friend who believes is like Montenegro or Macedonia ...
  23. ded
    0
    April 24 2012 18: 25
    In a couple of years, Brussels will have to come up with a new status for Georgia: for example, “almost membership” or “lack of membership”


    Why come up with? Already coined: MEMBER
  24. +1
    April 24 2012 19: 23
    "The Americans, who have once received a" gift "from the Georgian president in the form of a provocation in South Ossetia not fully coordinated with the White House" ...

    Well, right ... the Yankees just made reconnaissance in force. Not their own, but Georgian, thanks to Saakashvili's "smart" leadership :)
  25. SectoR
    0
    April 24 2012 20: 13
    Enter, do not enter - time will tell, BUT
    Georgian people themselves generally want to NATO ?? Enemy number one will not be Somalia, any, and not unprecedented terrorists, but big Russia in front of a big nose, do they need it ??
    And the American and European people, where Misha can’t control himself, do they need it ?? But does NATO itself need this ballast? (no offense to the Georgians). They already use it not bad ...

    The Baltic states are in NATO, and as far as we know, they are not particularly happy. But they all lost everything from joining the EU ... is it really impossible to learn from the mistakes of others ...
  26. 0
    April 24 2012 22: 03
    Georgia is becoming a testing ground for determining the relationship between west and east !!! looks like poker ...
  27. vladimir64ss
    0
    April 24 2012 23: 44
    The Americans, who already once received a “gift” from the Georgian president in the form of a provocation in South Ossetia not fully coordinated with the White House,
    Read the full story: http://topwar.ru/13745-nato-vodit-saakashvili-za-nos.html -------------- The provocation was consistent, but there were no results. In general, I think that if Georgia joins NATO, it is necessary to resolve the issue ourselves. Our people are there in spirit.
  28. Pravdoruba
    0
    April 26 2012 14: 39
    We will give everyone the lyuley who will turn up in South Ossetia and Abkhazia - and Saakashishka and Nate, etc.

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