Russian draftees will undergo a psychological selection

The President of Russia signed the law, which provides for the passage of mandatory psychological selection by draftees into the ranks of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and other security agencies. Relevant information published on Online legal information. We are talking about amending the Federal Law "On Military Duty and Military Service."

The innovation provides for an additional procedure for Russian conscripts during a medical examination. This additional procedure is a psychological selection that tells about the psychological state of a young man who is called up for military service. Psychological selection will be carried out with the purpose of determining professional suitability for training in various military-accounting specialties, military service, training in higher military educational institutions. Also, this selection will help in the distribution of young people in positions.

Criteria for psychological selection, as reported, will be determined by the main defense department of the country.

Previously, such an initiative was put forward by many military experts, including the regular officers of the RF Armed Forces. Recently, doctors have noted an increase in the number of young people who are called up for military service with certain psychological problems. Such problems may ultimately affect not only the nature of the service of a single young man, but also the relationship within the team of servicemen into which such a draftee enters.

Comments

[Vitaly Anisimov]

In Soviet times, I remember some tricky tests slipping us ..! Three of (the crowd of recruits) only passed them (including me ..)))))) Such prospects promised us .. hehe
I couldn’t find such tests even on the Internet, even a semblance .. (a lot of time has passed, but I remember in general terms ..)

[ZHIGAN]

What is the difference between a steam locomotive and a diesel locomotive? such?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: GIGAN

What is the difference between a steam locomotive and a diesel locomotive? such?

No, this is already up-to-date .. I’m just joking, I say in those days and there wasn’t any Internet or any “psychologists” .. The test was very difficult for a while too! On gray paper in typographic font .. The military commander was happy to remember that he "revealed" such !!!!

[Dmitry Belovetsky]

Finnish army psychological test

The idea of ​​the test is very simple. The rookie looks at the sheet and names the numbers located inside the circles. If a rookie sees numbers in all six circles, he is healthy. If the future soldier does not see the number in several circles at once, he should be checked for color blindness - color blindness. And if a rookie does not see numbers in only one circle, then he may develop the following problems:

Circle 1 is not visible. Increased aggressiveness, conflict. It is recommended that a lot of attention be paid to a contrasting soul and exercise.

Circle 2 is not visible. Mental abilities are reduced. When serving in the general arms of the army, additional measures are not required.

Circle 3 is not visible. Gasterimargia (gluttony). Reinforced rations, more physical exercises, sedentary work and work in the kitchen are contraindicated.

Circle 4 is not visible. Sadism. In the case of mild form, the appointment to the teaching staff is recommended; in severe form - to the disciplinary department.

Circle 5 is not visible. Latent (hidden, suppressed) homosexuality. Attacks of poorly controlled attraction to persons of the same sex are possible. No additional measures required.

Circle 6 is not visible. Schizophrenia. A full checkup with a psychiatrist is recommended.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Russian draftees will undergo a psychological selection

what about the deputies ...?

[Mikado]

do not press on the sore spot .. and the tests were in the late 90s, when I went to the draft board. The question is in the formulation of the psychological service. When I served, the opinion of the psychologist and his conclusion was recommendatory. That is, in fact, the psychologist does not affect anything. Although it can be supported by the opinion of a psychiatrist. If it will be! As set now - I don’t know. Sincerely, Nikolay, former psychologist at the Department of Internal Affairs.

[BIP PS FSB RF]

There were. I went to school for a military registration and enlistment office, and after that at the military enlistment office itself. EMNIP psychological stability and professional suitability, maybe something else.
Did they manage to cancel them? Or finally decided to pay attention to them.

[Mikado]

I do not know. Not in the subject. One must ask those who serve. When I served, no one needed psychologists to fuck. So, for show. Everything depended on the will of the leader. It is unlikely that something has changed. The psychiatrist did not reveal the disorder - that's all, go serve!

[faiver]

impossible, after the deputies and before the government and the presidential administration is already not far

[forester]

Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky

Finnish army psychological test

The idea of ​​the test is very simple. The rookie looks at the sheet and names the numbers located inside the circles. If a rookie sees numbers in all six circles, he is healthy. If the future soldier does not see the number in several circles at once, he should be checked for color blindness - color blindness. And if a rookie does not see numbers in only one circle, then he may develop the following problems:

Circle 1 is not visible. Increased aggressiveness, conflict. It is recommended that a lot of attention be paid to a contrasting soul and exercise.

Circle 2 is not visible. Mental abilities are reduced. When serving in the general arms of the army, additional measures are not required.

Circle 3 is not visible. Gasterimargia (gluttony). Reinforced rations, more physical exercises, sedentary work and work in the kitchen are contraindicated.

Circle 4 is not visible. Sadism. In the case of mild form, the appointment to the teaching staff is recommended; in severe form - to the disciplinary department.

Circle 5 is not visible. Latent (hidden, suppressed) homosexuality. Attacks of poorly controlled attraction to persons of the same sex are possible. No additional measures required.

Circle 6 is not visible. Schizophrenia. A full checkup with a psychiatrist is recommended.

So in the USSR it was on postscript - eyesight was checked

[sxfRipper]

So in the USSR it was on postscript - eyesight was checked

We did not check anything like this on our postscript (EMNIP, 1971).

[Ayratelinsion]

Your fifth point is incorrectly described. Suppressed homosexuality is recorded if the subject sees some number there, in fact he's not there.

[1 Navigator]

Prof selection is called.

[san4es]

Quote: GIGAN

... such?

... and such

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: MIKHAN

In Soviet times, I remember some tricky tests slipping us ..! Three of (the crowd of recruits) only passed them (including me ..))))))

I guess Meehan ... how did you blow them then?

[tracer]

+100500 !!! How beautifully I watched .... Masterpiece ...

[siberalt]

Vital, there were no psychologists at all in the draft commissions of the USSR. There were psychiatrists. Psychologists were already filled up at the duty station. But that's another story.

[Fedorov]

They didn’t palm off, but it was probably necessary. At the age of 16, I went through the same thing, identified them in the border troops. I remember sitting for two hours with a pen, and they also checked the auditory response using loudspeakers - speakers. We ran in shorts at the draft board.
Maybe the draft board was "wrong" Despite the fact that my father is the head of the operations department then. Well, he drove me - going up with the "Beacon", ate after the horizontal bar and a bucket of cold water, and a kick to study. Thank you for that.

[LSA57]

It is high time. inadequate weapons we still lacked

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: LSA57

It is high time. inadequate weapons we still lacked

They even give bribes to military commissars so they can be taken into the army .. That's the time, hehe!

[LSA57]

Quote: MIKHAN

They even give bribes to military commissars so they can be taken into the army .. That's the time, hehe!

so it’s good. service prestige is growing

[Maksus]

Meehan, sleep. You already confuse reality and your glitches!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Maksus

Meehan, sleep. You already confuse reality and your glitches!

Bite your tongue .. And please respect the opinions of members of the forum and do not take the example of "comrades" .. (brainwashed you already?)))

[ZVO]

Quote: MIKHAN

Quote: Maksus

Meehan, sleep. You already confuse reality and your glitches!

Bite your tongue .. And please respect the opinions of members of the forum and do not take the example of "comrades" .. (brainwashed you already?)))

Put your own tongue out of chocolate yourself
Your opinion - just wipe your feet .. balabol alternative.
don’t drive snowstorms ... nobody pays for the army now ...
at best, parents of juvenile drug addicts in the hope of an “army fix” - how ...

[Maksus]

Don’t poke me, old man, I respect the opinions of people, but not the verbal diarrhea of ​​a fool near.

[tracer]

Meehan is our alternative reality. You can say a parallel universe ..
It’s just not possible to explain it with glitches. But he certainly saves us from boredom. Without him, just longing.
Sometimes I read his comments, and RZHUNIMAGU. It would certainly never have occurred to me. For example, about how two of them were "selected" out of 30 people .. This is finally tin. Who was taken from? 30 people? And he was definitely taken to the army? I haven’t neighing like this for a long time .. Thank you, Mikhan ...

[forester]

Quote: MIKHAN

Quote: LSA57

It is high time. inadequate weapons we still lacked

They even give bribes to military commissars so they can be taken into the army .. That's the time, hehe!

Do not be surprised Vital - now it’s useful for a career .... but in our .... (although not quite the same - 74 year of birth) The Soviet past is also useful for self-realization. Have you seen the current demobilization? - I saw - 50% are simply clowns articulate, but with a military man (((

[Ace Tambourine]

I confirm Vitaly’s words about bribes for getting into the Army ... This also skips here ...
Ours returned after a year, so he began to resemble a man.
This is not even an army, but simply life in a team with mutual responsibility, that’s what sets the brain in control ....

[210ox]

It's time. And then access to weapons can be such damps .. At one time we three of them twisted, otherwise the guard would have put a hoopoe ..

[dog breeder]

The guards laid down in the seventies.

[210ox]

It was in the year 83, in the fall. The old servant refused to go to the post. And then he went to the cuckoo completely. I was parting in that guard. I turned it with the commander and the guard of free shift .. The rest were sleeping and standing at the posts ... Lucky -losyara was strong. Karakalpak, he was alone in the platoon from Central Asia.

Quote: dog breeder

The guards laid down in the seventies.

[Herculesic]

And so they mow herds from the army, and they also invented a new method of “psychological incompatibility”! I went to a psychologist, brought to the military enlistment office a linden that is too aggressive, do not get along even with my own head, and let others serve? ??

[LSA57]

Quote: Herkulesich

I went to a psychologist, brought to the military enlistment office a linden that is too aggressive,

so in the military enlistment office will also be psychologists

and let others serve? ??

let it go. there’s still no sense in such "servants"

[Sergey D_2]

Golden words! Where were you in October 1980?

[dog breeder]

He went to Vinnitsa to study.

[Andrey K]

Quote: LSA57

... so there will be psychologists in the military enlistment office too ...

Sergei
So they are - on the staff of the medical commission of the military enlistment office !!!

[LSA57]

Quote: Andrey K

So they are - on the staff of the medical commission of the military enlistment office !!!

I've been there a long time ago

[Lopatov]

Quote: Herkulesich

I went to a psychologist, brought to the military enlistment office a linden that was too aggressive

... got to where the service is not related to weapons. In a pigsty, twist the tails of pigs.

[LSA57]

Quote: Spade

. In a pigsty, twist the tails of pigs.

well, or footcloths wash

[Sergey D_2]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Herkulesich

I went to a psychologist, brought to the military enlistment office a linden that was too aggressive

... got to where the service is not related to weapons. In a pigsty, twist the tails of pigs.

I had a land pig. In the battalion appeared a couple of times a month. A calm, confident guy. He looked at us with pity. He is not to blame for having finished the zootechnical school))) Ahvitseriki greeted him by the handle)))

[210ox]

But who’s mowing right now? The service is for a year, the conditions are hothouse, and if relatives are also without money then after the service you get the opportunity to get into the organs to work. And if there is no tower and you still haven’t served, put a yard in front of the administration ..

Quote: Herkulesich

And so they mow herds from the army, and they also invented a new method of “psychological incompatibility”! I went to a psychologist, brought to the military enlistment office a linden that is too aggressive, do not get along even with my own head, and let others serve? ??

[ZVO]

Quote: 210ox

Who’s mowing right now? Service year, greenhouse conditions,

Question 1. Is the service in the bodies prestigious or what?
Only people of one special category are torn into it ...
For no matter how many acquaintances there are, there is everywhere “dependence” and in the form of servility. everyone needs to please ....

Question 2. Why should a young man spend a year of his young life, have a drink, go for a walk with the girls, if you can pay off for just 1 month's salary?

Question 3. In what other places besides the Ministry of Internal Affairs do you need military service?

[Ace Tambourine]

Do not tell ...
Our dunce is now working in Vnukovo, on pre-flight training of aircraft.
So they checked it before admission for 2 months, and one of the conditions was military service.
And in general, without a warrior in the state. service under the laws of the move now is not.

[Andrey K]

As far as I know, there is a therapist, surgeon, neuropathologist, psychiatrist, optometrist, otorhinolaryngologist, dentist and, if necessary, doctor of another specialty in the medical commission at the military registration and enlistment office.
The question arises - either full-time psychiatrists are so unprofessional that they cannot filter out candidates at the commission stage, or the situation with conscripts is such that a full-time psychiatrist is unable to cope.

... Psychological selection will be carried out in order to determine the suitability for training in one or another military specialties, military service, training in higher military educational institutions ...

If I correctly understood what I read, then we are not talking about conscripts, but about candidates for universities, contract soldiers.

[ZHIGAN]

Just parasites will still be recruited And as they shot, they will shoot

[Lopatov]

Quote: Andrey K

either full-time psychiatrists are so unprofessional

... either the psychologist differs from the psychiatrist as a carpenter from a joiner ...

[Andrey K]

Quote: Spade

... either the psychologist differs from the psychiatrist as a carpenter from a joiner ...

There is no psychologist unit in the military commissariat’s medical commission, so there’s only a “carpenter”

[Sergey D_2]

I remember a platoon raiders said: - "I did not invite you here. You yourself arrived"

[andrewkor]

The conscript undergoes a medical examination. Doctors discover the absence of a penis. You can’t call, but what to write in conclusion? Write-flat-footedness: the chief doctor guessed!

[ZHIGAN]

Such, it seems to me, on the contrary, should serve to go St. Petrov serves and not

[ZHIGAN]

Quote: MIKHAN

Quote: LSA57

It is high time. inadequate weapons we still lacked

They even give bribes to military commissars so they can be taken into the army .. That's the time, hehe!

So now you can’t get into power without an army! I think therefore

[Sergey D_2]

Quote: GIGAN

Quote: MIKHAN

Quote: LSA57

It is high time. inadequate weapons we still lacked

They even give bribes to military commissars so they can be taken into the army .. That's the time, hehe!

So now you can’t get into power without an army! I think therefore

Rather, without a military card)))

[Masya masya]

....... 1-B .... it used to be, I don’t know ...

[Ace Tambourine]

I was bothered by 5-V, ​​TIR on the basis of schizophrenia ... 3 years and the sea of ​​vodka took to remove .. They offered to work only as a janitor
Well, what to do, freethinking in the 80m was not encouraged ...

[k174oun7]

Draftees must be studied "before" to hand over the agenda, and not "in the course of that." There is a specially invented structure for this - the military commissariat is called. This is where psychologists should be kept, for the most part from the former military. Let them study, select, questionnaire and analyze for themselves. T.N. additional procedure in the course of honey. Surveys will yield nothing but a formal questionnaire and useless recommendations. I already wrote on this occasion that a guy from a normal family is not a drug addict, not a drunkard, an adherent who is not fooled by radical sectarians, not convicted and not a punks from a gateway, registered with the police, can serve in the army and be useful, not torture to the commanders. Databases for persons with reduced social responsibility are available in the relevant structures
A well-served fighter, as it was in the USSR, on the recommendation of the command should be able to enter the state without competitive entry. Universities. To produce the next paper bookkeeping so that the statements do not violate a deliberately losing business. Obviously another notion of officials in terms of taking measures to respond to these shortcomings in working with conscripts.

[Ace Tambourine]

I agree only remotely ...
What you offer is a utopian picture. Yes ! so it would be, as it were, and should be ideally ...
But of the guys with reduced social responsibility by 70%, much better soldiers, or rather fighters, than from the right, well-bred boys. Just the commander should see what he needs. Therefore, psychiatrists need to train not from conscripts, but from commanders.

Py.Sy. And what is your ULF in nickname?

[Sergey D_2]

What other tests?)))) From the guard to the outfit! From the dress to the guard! After a couple of weeks - silk.

[ltc35]

It was like that for about six months. So there, one managed to shoot himself in the leg to slope. The case ended with a disbath.

[dog breeder]

The lucky ones. Here, in the first six months, they drove in such a way (in a good way) that many remembered the citizen only when the postman brought letters from home at the break.

[Hurricane70]

Quote: LSA57

It is high time. inadequate weapons we still lacked

What time is it? Test? And who invented these tests? But how can one judge everyone according to tests invented by one person? And people are different, and from them they are trying to make averaged something!
A bunch of examples from personal life:
Question (statement): I often carried out the orders of people (meaning commanders / bosses) who were dumber (exaggerating) me.
How to answer this? Not necessarily talking about shoulder straps, but on a civilian it is all the time! And you know it no worse than me!
The answer is yes! They tell me, the curve jumped for an acceptable (by whom?) Value ... On this very question! Agreed to repeat in an hour ...
When you repeat, I answer- No! The curve jumped the other way, showed insincerity! This, of course, is not because of precisely this No, but in the aggregate, the questions duplicate and complement each other. And to the question, do you bypass cracks on the asphalt or jump over, what would you answer? And this is very important for testing! With color perception in general, Hochma !!! If a person likes black, red or brown, this indicates aggression, etc., etc., the risk group is shorter ... So you had to choose according to the prompted template, otherwise you are tormented by retaking, and they may not give out weapons, some had it. Do you know that people perceive colors differently, what is on the monitor, and what is on paper? I’ve experienced it myself, though everything worked out, since the psychologist herself warned that the computer was dead and the paper remained ...
Well, in general, I’ll tell about myself, I retook it a couple of times in 15 years, it didn’t work from the first one, especially when I just entered it. But some, especially those who think for a long time, fearing a trick, did not sweat childishly ...
I am opposed when a person is driven into a tight framework! I don’t see the point in the psychologist BEFORE, I need it AFTER, and I need a psychiatrist! Moreover, to argue, psychology (a new one was sent), persuaded to show a master class ... Do not believe it, did not go the first time !!! Well, maybe I was worried, a new team, bearded men, the fear of banging my face in the mud! But nonetheless...

[Xscorpion]

With news 25 years late. Psychological selection has always been. Maybe we are talking about additional requirements for psychological selection?

[valek97]

Well, as I understand it. In addition to the usual test for 180 questions, something else is proposed. The question is, why are you not interested in civilian life only when you break something already in the army, etc.?

[mavrus]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Russian draftees will undergo a psychological selection

what about the deputies ...?

Yes, it’s not up to the deputies. In our country, the candidates are watering each other with water, and crying for them without a test.

[edeligor]

I don’t understand, do they do nefig chtoli ?! PPO (professional psychological selection), draftees go through from the initial enrollment and immediately before the draft for military service in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Why elevate the banal procedure to the rank of law ?! These servants of the law would rather do more necessary things, rather than climb to where everything works fine without them ....

[NordUral]

And each for the life of a personal psychoanalyst must still be attached.

[Iwankavkaz]

There will be no excess.

[Techno ID]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

what about the deputies ...?

I fully support it, only officials need to be added to the deputies, and a narcologist and a polygraph should be included in the testing system :-).

[wasjasibirjac]

Considering the psychological characteristics of a huge number of young people born in the 2000s - infantilism, inability to make decisions, a penchant for criminal behavior and other delights, I am afraid that it will be difficult to recruit the right number of recruits.

[yasvet]

Quote: edeligor

Why elevate the banal procedure to the rank of law?

a two-level selection system is being created: the military enlistment office - military unit. A great help in the work of full-time psychologists in military units, and in military unit pbg, especially, which will help to minimize errors when working with l / c, determining VUS, etc.

[Anton Capucin]

Quote: Dmitry Belovetsky

Finnish army psychological test

The idea of ​​the test is very simple. The rookie looks at the sheet and names the numbers located inside the circles. If a rookie sees numbers in all six circles, he is healthy. If the future soldier does not see the number in several circles at once, he should be checked for color blindness - color blindness. And if a rookie does not see numbers in only one circle, then he may develop the following problems:

Circle 1 is not visible. Increased aggressiveness, conflict. It is recommended that a lot of attention be paid to a contrasting soul and exercise.

Circle 2 is not visible. Mental abilities are reduced. When serving in the general arms of the army, additional measures are not required.

Circle 3 is not visible. Gasterimargia (gluttony). Reinforced rations, more physical exercises, sedentary work and work in the kitchen are contraindicated.

Circle 4 is not visible. Sadism. In the case of mild form, the appointment to the teaching staff is recommended; in severe form - to the disciplinary department.

Circle 5 is not visible. Latent (hidden, suppressed) homosexuality. Attacks of poorly controlled attraction to persons of the same sex are possible. No additional measures required.

Circle 6 is not visible. Schizophrenia. A full checkup with a psychiatrist is recommended.

This cross between Rabkin and Freeling. Well this ... in principle, they check in the same way, but separately. Plus the usual medical tests. There are many of them, but they definitely help determine where to send a person. Nothing new shorter))