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Stockholm defeat

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When the smoke from the “asymmetric solution” of the Stockholm arbitration court was somewhat dispelled, the picture of the defeat of Naftogaz of Ukraine began to take real shape and already resembles the rout of the Swedes near Poltava. Announced "Naftogaz" "victory" over "Gazprom" is quickly becoming another terrible zradu. It is noteworthy that arbitration is Swedish: how does it laugh at us история, or someone else!




The result of the Swedish arbitration was the termination by Gazprom of contracts with Naftogaz, gas transit to Europe was threatened, and, objectively, for Europe, the need to build Nord Stream - 2 to Russia increases. Gazprom’s continuation of gas transit through Ukraine after the termination of the contract with Naftogaz becomes impossible. What does it mean? Stockholm arbitration will soon be declared "Moscow agent" ...

As long as the biased “asymmetrical” decision of the Arbitration is suspended while Gazprom appeals are being considered, both Gazprom’s gas contracts with Naftogaz are moving to a stage of termination, rather than a normal execution, and everyone will soon feel this difference. A supplementary agreement to the gas supply contract with Gazprom to Naftogaz is not the last to be signed, and will not be signed anymore, which means that there will be no direct supply of gas to Naftogaz.

The most expensive thing in the world - stupidity, for unknown reasons, it is always distinguished by frantic patriots. Therefore, dismantling in Kiev with Naftogaz, its head Andrei Kobolev and the company is very possible now. Poroshenko urgently need scapegoats for Stockholm zradu, and Kobolev with friends are the best candidates for these goats.

Under the contracts with Gazprom, Naftogaz had a discount on Russian gas as a transit country, so direct gas for Ukraine has always been cheaper than reverse European gas. But the “patriots of Ukraine” violated in such a way that as a result, Naftogaz carries out the transit, but does not receive direct Russian gas. Moreover, as a result of the Stockholm adventure, Ukraine does not use all of its advantages as a transit country, receiving only transit fees.

Naftogaz itself refused direct gas supplies because it filed lawsuits against Gazprom in the Stockholm Arbitration in order to change gas contracts with Gazprom in its favor. And who just gave him such strategic advice?

Ukrainian observers have reported that American advisers have long been hosting the Naftogaz office as at home, and it can be assumed that it was they who provoked Naftogaz: they promised to “throw” Gazprom in the Stockholm arbitration. And indeed, we see the “asymmetric” decision of the Arbitration in favor of Naftogaz. And immediately the ears of the US State Department appeared: he called for the decisions of the Arbitration to be implemented. That's just Gazprom not only filed an appeal, but decided to immediately terminate the contracts rewritten in Stockholm.

Did the Americans consider this “plan B”? Perhaps, however, they did not report this to the patriots from Naftogaz, but they themselves did not guess about it. We see Naftogaz’s complete unpreparedness for such a development, which resulted in an immediate gas crisis in Ukraine, panicky and contradictory statements, explanations and stupidity of the head of the company, Andrey Kobolev, such as billing for European gas for Gazprom.

For Europe and Germany, the best way out of the Stockholm crisis is to satisfy the appeals of Gazprom with the same Stockholm arbitration in order to forget this scandal like a bad dream. After that, Europe may turn to Gazprom with a proposal to withdraw applications for termination of contracts with Naftogaz, especially on transit. Gazprom will certainly set some kind of counter conditions, but we still need to live up to this point. This is a soft version of the resolution of the Stockholm crisis.

The hard option is that the Arbitration will reject Gazprom’s appeals, and Gazprom will terminate the contracts with Naftogaz in court, which will take plus or minus one year. Naftogaz will have to transit gas without receiving direct gas supplies from Gazprom, receiving only transit fees. If Gazprom again tries to condemn asymmetrically in the Stockholm arbitration, it will find grounds for stopping the Ukrainian transit so that the costs of this decision will be borne not only by Moscow, but by all participants in the process. The greatest costs will be borne by Europe and Ukraine, which will plunge into an energy crisis. It is unlikely that the penalties of "Gazprom" will serve as their consolation.

Therefore, the Stockholm arbitration will inevitably be declared the “Moscow agent”. After all, after his remarkable asymmetric decision, Moscow takes the initiative in gas relations with Europe. Ukraine is simply out of the game. From now on, she has the role of a poor relative between Europe and Russia. Gazprom gets a strong bargaining position with respect to Europe, threatening a decrease in transit in the event of further developments unfavorable to it in the Stockholm Arbitration. As a “plan B” for Gazprom, there are the “Turkish Stream” and the “Power of Siberia” to China, scheduled for commissioning approximately at the end of the contracts with Naftogaz.

In principle, Germany needs to urgently establish its control over the Ukrainian gas transportation system in order to negotiate the continuation of transit with Russia, but the Americans are unlikely to like it. The United States is waging a war with Russia in Ukraine by all available means, even with the help of the Stockholm arbitration, in order to break the energy relations between Russia and Europe. The asymmetric decision of the Arbitration in favor of Naftogaz is directed primarily against the Nord Stream - 2, the construction of which has not even begun.

If, as a result of all the Stockholm squabbles, Germany begins to establish its control over the Ukrainian gas transportation system, the United States can only blow it up, especially since they now have great sabotage opportunities in Ukraine.

Two floors of the CIA in the Security Service of Ukraine in Kiev have settled for a long time and firmly, and we can assume that they have access to Svidomo patriots, outraged by the injustice that Gazprom supplies gas to Europe, and Ukraine lives in misery without gas. This is an obvious Zrada, which can be eliminated by blowing up the GTS. UkroSMI reports that the National Guard under Ukraine urgently takes under the protection of the CTA, which needs to be protected from someone, blaming everything, of course, on Gazprom. Although Germany in this case is unlikely to be fooled. In other words, in the western regions of Ukraine, a small war may soon erupt between the patriots attacking the GTS and its defenders from the national guard, which is also full of patriots

Russia can calmly look at all this from the side, having another trump ace on hand: if necessary, Russia can suspend all trade and economic relations with the Bandera Ukraine, which officially declared Russia an “aggressor country”.

... The "Black Swan" of the energy crisis named after Paul Craig Roberts clearly spreads his wings over Europe.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 7 March 2018 06: 08
    +16
    Clever people will never understand the logic of fools ... Due to the absence of this very logic at all ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 March 2018 06: 16
      +47
      Well, why the logic of UKRAINE was ... they still believe that gas from RUSSIA through the pipe of UKRAINE is forever ... it's like an ever-rising sun with warmth and a freebie from the east that will always be.
      And now the sun suddenly didn’t rise and night fell ... a cold night and in order to keep warm you have to pay Europe very dearly for this ... as they say UKRAINE tse EUROPE ... so be it.
      Now, UKRAINE and EUROPE have a question of money ...
      who will pay for this banquet ... Gazprom refused ... Europe also doesn’t want to keep pan-and-panheads for free ... the USA is far away and with its LNG will ruin the villages completely ... as they say business is nothing personal ... have arrived.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 7 March 2018 06: 53
        +22
        “Gazprom’s continuation of gas transit through Ukraine after the termination of the contract with Naftogaz becomes impossible.” We will wait and see. Kamenev already makes this a fact. Although the appeal has not yet passed, the process of terminating the contracts has just begun. And I see something else. - this baida had to be stopped for a long time. And then “SP2” would have already moved. But the Kremlin camarilla is constantly being persuaded, promised, “Minsk conspiracy”, etc. So it’s not a fact, they can still persuade them to leave transit for at least the next two years .Or ten strip p fines.
        Quote: The same Lech
        Well, why the logic of UKRAINE was ... they still believe that gas from RUSSIA through the pipe of UKRAINE is forever ... it's like an ever-rising sun with warmth and a freebie from the east that will always be.
        And now the sun suddenly didn’t rise and night fell ... a cold night and in order to keep warm you have to pay Europe very dearly for this ... as they say UKRAINE tse EUROPE ... so be it.
        Now, UKRAINE and EUROPE have a question of money ...
        who will pay for this banquet ... Gazprom refused ... Europe also doesn’t want to keep pan-and-panheads for free ... the USA is far away and with its LNG will ruin the villages completely ... as they say business is nothing personal ... have arrived.
        1. Victor Kamenev
          7 March 2018 08: 08
          +38
          This fact confirms the approximate coincidence of the end of the Naftogaz transit with the surrender of the Turkish Stream and the Power of Siberia ". Previously, Gazprom could not break the transit, but now it is possible. Gazprom refused to carry on tripartite negotiations. In such cases and does, otherwise the budget can sink into it.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 7 March 2018 08: 51
            +4
            I agree. But only partially. The actions of our authorities are difficult to predict. Yes, and “otherwise the budget can sag a lot.” But what about allegations of a decrease in dependence on the oil and gas sector?
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            This fact confirms the approximate coincidence of the end of the Naftogaz transit with the surrender of the Turkish Stream and the Power of Siberia ". Previously, Gazprom could not break the transit, but now it is possible. Gazprom refused to carry on tripartite negotiations. In such cases and does, otherwise the budget can sink into it.
            1. KAV
              KAV 7 March 2018 10: 37
              +27
              Quote: 210ox
              But what about allegations of a decrease in dependence on the gas and oil sector?

              Reducing addiction is not equal to getting rid of addiction. You, like, are an adult, and you don’t notice the difference in wording ... Moreover, even if the dependence of the budget on the oil and gas industry is completely eliminated, this does not mean that you should immediately refuse to sell energy! Money is not superfluous! And the wording “otherwise the budget can sag a lot” - it just says that the budget will drop from the originally planned, but this does not mean that the budget will burst. Damn, as small children, by God ...
              1. 210ox
                210ox 7 March 2018 10: 41
                +1
                But this already happened. And the budget could not stand it. The truth is, let’s say all the “stars” came together. His mother ... marked. I mean the collapse of the USSR. More precisely, where did it start. By the way, what percentage of the budget is from the oil industry please tell me?
                Quote: KAV
                Quote: 210ox
                But what about allegations of a decrease in dependence on the gas and oil sector?

                Reducing addiction is not equal to getting rid of addiction. You, like, are an adult, and you don’t notice the difference in wording ... Moreover, even if the dependence of the budget on the oil and gas industry is completely eliminated, this does not mean that you should immediately refuse to sell energy! Money is not superfluous! And the wording “otherwise the budget can sag a lot” - it just says that the budget will drop from the originally planned, but this does not mean that the budget will burst. Damn, as small children, by God ...
                1. KAV
                  KAV 7 March 2018 10: 47
                  +8
                  Quote: 210ox
                  But this already happened. And the budget could not stand it. The truth is, let’s say all the “stars” came together. His mother ... marked. I mean the collapse of the USSR.

                  Then everything was different. Now the situation is completely different.
                  Quote: 210ox
                  By the way, what percentage of the budget fill of the oil industry please tell me?

                  Please: 37-38% for 2016-2017.
                  1. 210ox
                    210ox 7 March 2018 11: 04
                    0
                    The situation is exactly the same. The budget is filling. The country was sitting on the "oil and gas needle", and by the way, the percentages are almost the same (official). In reality, it will be higher. The prices fell for oil and, accordingly, for gas. The hunchback really added to the fight against alcohol . The country was eventually demolished.
                    Quote: KAV
                    Quote: 210ox
                    But this already happened. And the budget could not stand it. The truth is, let’s say all the “stars” came together. His mother ... marked. I mean the collapse of the USSR.

                    Then everything was different. Now the situation is completely different.
                    Quote: 210ox
                    By the way, what percentage of the budget fill of the oil industry please tell me?

                    Please: 37-38% for 2016-2017.
                    1. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 7 March 2018 12: 00
                      +14
                      Quote: 210ox
                      The country sat on the "oil and gas needle

                      Nonsense. On top of the oil and gas needle sat the top of the CPSU, which imagines itself to be a "new aristocracy." In the Soviet Union there was a planned economy, which took into account resources and production capacities for years to come. What undermined the USSR was Chernobyl, the stupid reforms of Gorbachev and the “salvation of socialism” in different countries that wanted to spit on him. And of course, the lack of flexibility in propaganda, which has remained at the level of communist speeches since the Civil War.
                      1. Anatoly Denisov
                        Anatoly Denisov 7 March 2018 19: 02
                        0
                        Until 1941, OUR country was on an industrial take-off. After this war. After the war, the main task was REVIVAL and filling the consumer basket with ANY price. Any, even to the detriment of quality. By the mid-70s, the basket was almost full, but a population of SEROCRATES was formed that did not know what TECHNOLOGY was. Having reached a certain limit, this population began to reproduce its own kind .N y, etc.
                        A typical representative of the Serocrats is Medvedev. Napoleon said as if about our time. The most immoral is to do business that you do not know how to do.
                        The oil and gas sector has helped these serocrats to exist and pretend that they seem to be able to steer the economy. The people of the Russian Federation began to engage in POGIGISM. It will be possible to state that the people are only trying to take up the mind, this is when the last deputy from the LDPR leaves the Duma.
                      2. dSK
                        dSK 8 March 2018 02: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        lack of flexibility in propaganda, which has remained at the level of communist speeches since the civil war.
                        Ukrainian observers report that at the office of Naftogaz as at home long been hosted by American advisers, and we can assume that they provoked Naftogaz: they promised him to “throw” Gazprom in the Stockholm arbitration.
                        Two floors of the CIA in the Security Service of Ukraine in Kiev settled for a long time and firmly
                        Are they going to sit back?
                    2. Starlei.ura
                      Starlei.ura 7 March 2018 16: 41
                      +6
                      The country was demolished by shutting off the supply of grub to Maskofsky stores, and there the people seasoned in the struggle for sausage smashed, for lack of sausage, the whole country. Well, the cries on the ground "stop feeding Moscow-let's live," contributed a lot to this. Those. the country was destroyed by the most terrible beast-toad. But who organized all these interruptions is already material for another investigation.
                      1. In100gram
                        In100gram 13 March 2018 21: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: Starlei.ura
                        The country was demolished by blocking the supply of grub

                        It was a trigger. And all over the country. So we got a headshot. But in a planned economy this was impossible to admit, from the word at all. And then there was talk of a "market arm" that would fix everything
                    3. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 7 March 2018 16: 53
                      +7
                      Quote: 210ox
                      Exactly the same situation. Budget occupancy.

                      The point is not in the budget, but in the fact that the top of the CPSU was determined to collapse the country in its interests.
                      Putin is certainly not a saint, but unlike the gang of that time, he is not going to surrender anything. Another thing is that he has significantly worse conditions, and that is getting out.
                    4. Squint
                      Squint 10 March 2018 19: 28
                      0
                      Hey, 210 ok. You do not accidentally remember the reason for the collapse in oil prices, to which the United States is involved. And it is worth noting that each country "sits" on what it has in abundance. Another thing is the development in the country of other sectors of the country's economy. But this is only possible as the country's economy rises!
                      And it is very likely that you yourself are also "sitting", only here on bulk shit.
                  2. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 7 March 2018 12: 56
                    +5
                    Of these, the bulk of the oil, not gas.
                2. Setrac
                  Setrac 7 March 2018 19: 09
                  +4
                  Quote: 210ox
                  But this already happened. And the budget could not stand it. The truth is, let’s say all the “stars” came together. His mother ... marked. I mean the collapse of the USSR.

                  The economy has nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR.
                3. Kuts
                  Kuts 8 March 2018 21: 20
                  0
                  By the way, what percentage ...
                  Oil and gas is 35% of the budget.
                4. New Year day
                  New Year day 10 March 2018 00: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: 210ox
                  what is the percentage of the budget filled from the oil industry

                  In a different layout:
                  According to the report of the FCS for 11 months of 2017.
                  The basis of Russian exports in January-September 2017 to non-CIS countries was traditionally fuel and energy products, the share of which in the commodity structure of exports to these countries amounted to 65,2% (in January-September 2016 - 62,5%). Compared with January-September 2016, the cost of fuel and energy products increased by 31,2%, and the physical - by 3,3%. Among the goods of the fuel and energy complex, the physical volumes of export of coal coal increased by 9,7%, natural gas - by 8,4%, diesel fuel - by 2,8%, crude oil - by 1,7%. At the same time, the physical volumes of gasoline export decreased by 29,9%.
                  In the commodity structure of exports to the CIS countries in January-September 2017, the share of fuel and energy products amounted to 33,3% (in January-September 2016 - 33,2%). The value export volumes of these goods increased by 25,5%, while the physical ones decreased by 0,7%. Physical volumes of electricity export decreased by 12,2%, crude oil - by 12,0%. At the same time, the physical volumes of coke supplies increased by 68,1%, oil products - by 41,2%, natural gas - by 2,8%.
                  1. In100gram
                    In100gram 13 March 2018 21: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    In a different layout

                    Do not confuse GDP and export volume. This is a distortion of facts. How much GDP is in that export? And what does it consist of?
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 14 March 2018 01: 31
                      0
                      Quote: In100gram
                      Do not confuse GDP and export volume. This is a distortion of facts

                      you obviously can't read! Clearly stated in the preamble
                      Quote: In100gram
                      In a different layout

                      hard to think?
                5. Senior manager
                  Senior manager 13 March 2018 09: 32
                  0
                  Quote: 210ox
                  But this already happened. And the budget could not stand it.

                  Looks like you should already pack your bags and pull them to where we are not. At the same time, the flag will change.
          2. NKT
            NKT 7 March 2018 16: 09
            +2
            And what does the Power of Siberia have to do with it? It is imprisoned for a specific field. We still do not have pipes to transfer gas from the fields supplying Europe to the Power of Siberia.
            1. Town Hall
              Town Hall 7 March 2018 19: 02
              +5
              Quote: NKT
              And what does the Power of Siberia have to do with it? It is imprisoned for a specific field. We still do not have pipes to transfer gas from the fields supplying Europe to the Power of Siberia.




              Do you think such boring details for the afftor are a serious reason to interrupt your flights of thought and stop tormenting Claudia?
          3. vkfriendly
            vkfriendly 10 March 2018 08: 52
            0
            as far as the Turkish stream is known, it is still in the middle of the Black Sea.
        2. d ^ Amir
          d ^ Amir 7 March 2018 08: 47
          +5
          this canoe had to be stopped for a long time

          You forget about people in / in Ukraine ... it’s not strange that there are people there and there are a lot of them who haven’t been able to “round up” their heads, who continue despite everything think!! with your head!!!!! and for them such a development of events is unambiguous - Svidomo moron galloped !!!! and what are we now wondering ???
          it’s necessary to fight for people !!!!
          1. 210ox
            210ox 7 March 2018 08: 54
            +4
            Yes, you’re right. It’s necessary. It was ... That’s why we all have a backward mind? When did we have to do this? Well, yes, there was no time. We engaged in ourselves, we appointed the ambassadors of the useless ...
            Quote: d ^ Amir
            this canoe had to be stopped for a long time

            You forget about people in / in Ukraine ... it’s not strange that there are people there and there are a lot of them who haven’t been able to “round up” their heads, who continue despite everything think!! with your head!!!!! and for them such a development of events is unambiguous - Svidomo moron galloped !!!! and what are we now wondering ???
            it’s necessary to fight for people !!!!
            1. d ^ Amir
              d ^ Amir 7 March 2018 09: 03
              0
              Good afternoon!!!! with respect!!!! and you are right ... the sooner you thought ??? such a frenzy ... nevertheless, this is a good move to show to / in the country where their problems are growing ..
              1. 210ox
                210ox 7 March 2018 09: 06
                +4
                I know what I’ll say ... Normal people see everything without it. But not normal ... Well, why throw the beads in front of the pigs?
                Quote: d ^ Amir
                Good afternoon!!!! with respect!!!! and you are right ... the sooner you thought ??? such a frenzy ... nevertheless, this is a good move to show to / in the country where their problems are growing ..
                1. d ^ Amir
                  d ^ Amir 7 March 2018 09: 07
                  +1
                  Well maybe at least think ???? Well, at least a little ... Well, when it should start to reach ....
                  1. Cube123
                    Cube123 7 March 2018 11: 06
                    +3
                    Quote: d ^ Amir
                    Well maybe at least think ???? Well, at least a little ... Well, when it should start to reach ....

                    You do not need to think about it. They need to become independent! While the overseas uncle makes decisions for them, the opinion of the Ukrainians themselves is of no interest to anyone!
                    1. d ^ Amir
                      d ^ Amir 7 March 2018 11: 35
                      +2
                      good afternoon!!! Yours faithfully, but you’re in a hurry too .... Let them at least think for a moment ... you look and begin to get there ... Well, how will it continue after that ???? maybe they will start to "become independent" ... or maybe not ....
                      1. Cube123
                        Cube123 7 March 2018 11: 42
                        +9
                        Damir, there are a lot of people who understand everything. The problem is "housekeeping." They always wait for someone to come from the side and solve their problems. This is "cured" only by bringing people to a state where it is no longer possible not to start solving their problems. And to begin to help before this, it becomes to blame for all their troubles, they say "help badly."
                        Quote: d ^ Amir
                        good afternoon!!! Yours faithfully, but you’re in a hurry too .... Let them at least think for a moment ... you look and begin to get there ... Well, how will it continue after that ???? maybe they will start to "become independent" ... or maybe not ....
            2. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 7 March 2018 11: 25
              0
              Quote: 210ox
              It was necessary to...

              Remember the story? How did the Soviet people blithely believe that the German proletarians would give up arms and start fraternizing with them on the border, after which we would take Hitler together and finally begin the socialist revolution in Europe?
              And they didn’t mess around! The Comintern spent billions on current money, intelligence, agents of influence, sabotage ... Alas. While rushing, there will always be reasons for not giving a damn about allies and friends there. Well it is necessary to share with them, to coordinate plans, to sacrifice something. The cheapest thing is to declare your former ally an enemy, and rob him well!
              Oh ho ho ...
          2. Sheridan
            Sheridan 11 March 2018 15: 49
            0
            And this part of the population wants someone to fight for them? The past years have only strengthened their desire to receive financially for their suffering. I think so.
          3. Fireclown
            Fireclown 12 March 2018 14: 29
            0
            Good day.
            And it always seemed strange to me that no one remembers from those people (Gazprom employees or, more precisely, “transgas”) who provide transit through our territory.
            A certain number of compressor stations are not needed - but what about people?
            For the districts through which the “pipe” passes, this is also a significant contribution to their budget, too.
        3. avt
          avt 7 March 2018 11: 13
          +9
          Quote: 210ox
          Of course, it’s true that this baidu should have been stopped

          bully It’s not possible to do that. Even the current CAM contract, it just doesn’t close at the end of the term. Gazprom took advantage of the situation and launched the planned, as promised, liquidation of the existing contract and now that the papers are sent out and endorsed, de jouli’s contract will be cut off for everyone FOR ALL. Including Europa and most importantly ON LEGAL grounds, without the possibility of appeal in any arbitration and arbitration courts. Everything will have to start from scratch. So it’s also a good sausage keeper for accelerating ,, Nord Stream 2 "
          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          Gazprom could not break transit before

          Because there was no Sabeta, and now there was a slurry, but it was not bought where it is unknown at the "market" price, but it’s completely OWN-Russian. Here is Gazprom’s main joker and it already uses it in the USA and Britain.
        4. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 7 March 2018 14: 52
          +4
          Quote: 210ox
          Or rip off ten skins with fines.

          they won’t tear apart, more than that they can’t put it up, and the author wrote about it correctly, because if they go to lawlessness, then there will also be lawlessness in general, they will stop deliveries at all, and this is a very possible option, a trade war is already going on, and nobody wants their money, and the geyropa gets - LNG neither from the USA, nor from the Saudis will save it, and, if you look at the future, the stripes will soon refuse to supply LNG, they themselves will need it, severe frosts this year in the USA are consequences of an oil platform leak - the gulf stream has changed direction Lenie its course, that no heat request
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 7 March 2018 09: 10
        0
        gas from RUSSIA through the pipe of UKRAINE is forever


        This is the difference between clever and cunning.
      3. captain
        captain 7 March 2018 09: 36
        +8
        Quote: The same Lech
        Well, why the logic of UKRAINE was ... they still believe that gas from RUSSIA through the pipe of UKRAINE is forever ... it's like an ever-rising sun with warmth and a freebie from the east that will always be.
        And now the sun suddenly didn’t rise and night fell ... a cold night and in order to keep warm you have to pay Europe very dearly for this ... as they say UKRAINE tse EUROPE ... so be it.
        Now, UKRAINE and EUROPE have a question of money ...
        who will pay for this banquet ... Gazprom refused ... Europe also doesn’t want to keep pan-and-panheads for free ... the USA is far away and with its LNG will ruin the villages completely ... as they say business is nothing personal ... have arrived.

        The Soviet government accustomed the Union republics to the fact that Russia will feed them all their lives. So we have the result.
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 7 March 2018 09: 43
        +5
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Well, why was the logic of UKRAINE ..

        Keyword - "Was")))
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Now, UKRAINE and EUROPE have a question of money ...
        Before Urkaina the question of money is no longer standing. She lives in debt. But Europe faces a serious problem, in terms of the content of those "whom they tamed" in the sense, they dragged into European integration. In fact, to date, Europe pays for gas supplies to urkain out of pocket. You have to pay for everything, and as the author pointed out for stupidity, too.
      5. Kent0001
        Kent0001 7 March 2018 14: 13
        0
        Super SUCKS and LOSERS were made of Selyuk ... finally .... but they will never agree with that.
      6. Pravdorud
        Pravdorud 7 March 2018 19: 13
        0
        Not true! Ukraine Tse e ass!
      7. Valery Osipov
        Valery Osipov 7 March 2018 21: 34
        0
        Objectively said! You can no longer read further ... There would be a crest, then ... it would seem, deaconessably, Pah! From MOVA on Russian channels already Nauseous ...
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 7 March 2018 06: 31
      +10
      Quote: Vard
      Clever people will never understand the logic of fools ... Due to the absence of this very logic at all ...

      Well, the author, too, is logical. And, it would seem, everything is as it should be. But ... something is not believed in such a course of events.
      After all, any attack of the West in our direction could be leveled, but we all the time "expressed regret." And that’s it!
      I'm afraid that this conflict will come to naught and we will again help the "brothers"
      1. dSK
        dSK 7 March 2018 06: 39
        +6
        Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin.
        "And I want to be the mistress of the sea,
        To live in the okayana-sea
        To serve me a goldfish
        And I would have been on my premises. ”

        The tale of the "gold" fish always ends the same way. belay
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 7 March 2018 06: 57
          +2
          ... The "Black Swan" of the energy crisis named after Paul Craig Roberts clearly spreads his wings over Europe.
          The author: Viktor Kamenev
          - I like...
          1. zolotinka21
            zolotinka21 10 March 2018 08: 15
            0
            I also like this optimistic article. But I agree with most comments that all these are words / words / words. They won’t get to the point. IMHO ..
      2. Victor Kamenev
        7 March 2018 08: 10
        +4
        Not any lunge and not always, hats are another distinctive feature that is known ...
    3. Cube123
      Cube123 7 March 2018 08: 14
      +3
      Quote: Vard
      Clever people will never understand the logic of fools ... Due to the absence of this very logic at all ...

      But they can be put in a position where they have only one option left. This is the Jedi's path for the truly smart.
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  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 7 March 2018 06: 20
    +4
    "Black Swan"
    very beautiful bird. And the combination of Gazprom +++++
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 7 March 2018 14: 17
      +2
      And what is the "beautiful combination"? The whole story is started by the Americans in order to push Gazprom out of the European market and force Europe to buy American LNG through Poland and Lithuania. To do this, they need to discredit Gazprom as an “unreliable” supplier, which is being done. Now in the Western media there is a howl about something like: “Russia is waging an energy war with the West, using its dominant position in the European market and they say it's time to switch to alternative suppliers from the USA and the Middle East. It’s more expensive, but it will be” reliable "," free-democratic "gas, but what is more expensive .... it’s okay,“ you have to pay for freedom. "I don’t know if Gazprom has enough time and money (the main thing is money, it depends on them "exposure") to withstand such pressure.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 7 March 2018 16: 53
        +6
        I don’t know if Gazprom has enough endurance and money (the main thing is money, “endurance” depends on them) to withstand such pressure.


        that’s enough for Gazprom. But not the fact that Europe has enough money for gas from the USA
      2. Starlei.ura
        Starlei.ura 7 March 2018 17: 04
        +2
        They will start buying more, energy-intensive industries will either die or move, nothing personal - only business.
      3. Mih1974
        Mih1974 8 March 2018 02: 52
        +3
        Then we see how already the second tanker with a "liquid" gas engine sank into Matrasia laughing , all so tyrannical and aggressive, right? Although it’s not so much gas that has been taken out of Sabeta, it’s very difficult to transport gas to Russia and prove to the same Germans that LNG is also bad - it will be very difficult, especially if they resell it to themselves three times.
  3. Altona
    Altona 7 March 2018 07: 15
    +3
    Recently, the term "justice" I want to replace the term "failure". Now Israeli commentators will come to prove with their Jewish logic that Russia must supply gas and still pay for it. laughing hi
    1. Net
      Net 7 March 2018 08: 21
      +5
      And it always has been. And now. For example, in science. Scientists give their work, publishing their results over the hill (and, in English, the whole science of Russia is at a glance) and paying astronomical amounts - each article in Scopus or Saens costs from 40 thousand to 200 thousand rubles. And do not get away - the order of the Ministry of Education, otherwise a ban on the profession. This is where the pindospies settled.
      Why should gas be different - let Russia itself pay for its robbery and destruction?
  4. oracul
    oracul 7 March 2018 08: 01
    +8
    Fortune telling, in general, is not a very reliable occupation. In principle, what happened with the arbitration fits well with those warnings that many wrote about: patience gives the attacker a sense of impunity. This is confirmed by the actions of the IOC and WADA, the Olympic Committee, the decisions of the international athletics association, the events in Syria, the actions of Ukraine in the Donbass, US and EU sanctions, unsubstantiated accusations of aggression, interference with elections and so on. And this is a true hybrid war for wear.
  5. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 7 March 2018 08: 44
    +7
    I would not say that the decision of the Stockholm arbitration is directed against the SP-2. Rather, it is an attempt to get the bees of a single hive to feed the drones. After all, why are the Americans trying to sever raw materials ties with Russia? To supply Europe with its oil and gas, but the price from overseas is not competitive with pipe supplies from the word "absolutely". By killing Ukrainian transit, the Americans are creating an artificial shortage in Europe -> prices are going up -> American LNG is starting to approach payback (no one thinks that the United States will suddenly become altruists to the detriment of its own economy?) -> you can get "partners" to give up Russian raw materials ... Bingo! ...or not? After all, if they strangle SP-2 with their own hands, then Gazprom made it clear that it is futile to push through the Ukrainian transit by force. Agreeing, bargaining is market relations, but forcing them to give for free is already a gateway with a shantrap.
  6. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 7 March 2018 09: 07
    +2
    Of course, Russia is late and simply does not catch up with the situation with the "aggressor country." It is simply necessary to terminate all contacts, both legal and economic.
  7. vlad007
    vlad007 7 March 2018 09: 07
    +5
    Becoming superficial is a collection of common phrases. Why not write how much gas is pumped through Ukraine, how much money Ukraine receives for transit, how much gas Ukraine itself receives, at what price, etc. The strength of Siberia and the Turkish stream do not compensate for the FULL refusal of gas transit through Ukraine. The first line of the Turkish stream is 15,75 billion m3 of gas, the second as much as a total of approximately 31 billion m3. The strength of Siberia is approximately EMNIP, 30 billion m3 of gas. Total, together with the tourist flow - 61 billion m3 of gas. If not mistaken, 90 billion m3 is pumped through Ukraine.
    Author, less foam, more specific information.
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 7 March 2018 10: 43
      0
      You forgot about Nord Stream with an estimated 55 billion, but in fact, you actually pumped 40 billion.
      1. Rostovchanin
        Rostovchanin 7 March 2018 11: 12
        +1
        Well, in the summer of 1, SP2017 was modernized, it should now pump more than 40 billion, and SP2 for 55 billion is calculated. Plus, do not forget that in the future, Russkaya KS is capable of pumping 63 billion of the project, although we will be honest there so far 35 can give out
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  8. BAI
    BAI 7 March 2018 09: 31
    +5
    So far, the biased “asymmetric” Arbitration award has been suspended for the time that Gazprom’s appeals are being considered

    But 500 bucks percent each dripping without stopping. 000 lemon in 1 days. The amount will run up large. And since the court made an openly polonized decision, there is no reason to expect changes for the better.
    Since opinions have already been expressed - what doubts are about the objectivity of arbitration: they say that he made a decision in favor of Russia - objectively, he accepted in favor of Ukraine - politicized.
    I explain.
    1. I knowingly wrote Ukraine and Russia, and not Naftogaz and Gazprom. De facto - 2 states are suing. Hence the consequences.
    2. Politicization is manifested in the fact that the arbitration did not accept the “take or pay” clause, but supported the “download or pay” clause and demanded REWRITING A CURRENT CONTRACT. This is generally - UNPRECEDENTED!
  9. IrOqUoIs
    IrOqUoIs 7 March 2018 09: 41
    0
    Quote: d ^ Amir
    this canoe had to be stopped for a long time

    You forget about people in / in Ukraine ... it’s not strange that there are people there and there are a lot of them who haven’t been able to “round up” their heads, who continue despite everything think!! with your head!!!!! and for them such a development of events is unambiguous - Svidomo moron galloped !!!! and what are we now wondering ???
    it’s necessary to fight for people !!!!

    I will just give you the link: http://alternatio.org/articles/articles/item/5703
    7-ya-prohozhu-po-grazhdanskoy-voyne
    Read it.
  10. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 7 March 2018 10: 08
    0
    Naftogaz itself refused direct gas supplies because it filed lawsuits against Gazprom in the Stockholm Arbitration in order to change gas contracts with Gazprom in its favor. And who just gave him such strategic advice?
    It seems - the same one who came up with the slogan of horses. Smart and cunning Jew! laughing
  11. weksha50
    weksha50 7 March 2018 10: 37
    +2
    “... gas transit to Europe was in jeopardy, and, objectively, the need for Europe to build Nord Stream 2 to Russia is growing.
    Under which particular threat? For whom ? How are the AUTHORS sure (such articles are numerous, and therefore, “Y”) take confidence that Europe will now suffocate and cannot live without Nord Stream 2?
    “The most expensive thing in the world is stupidity, for unknown reasons, it always distinguishes frenzied patriots” ....
    Yeah ... patriots both in Ukraine and in Russia ... Everyone considers the situation from their own point of view and sees the end result that is beneficial only to him ...
    This is all - as with the same sanctions that no one else seriously included ...
    Also with oil, gas ... They want to crush Russia - they will find a way to refuse to export energy from it ... It is not in vain that they are considering the draft Energy Security Doctrine of the Russian Federation ... I would add “energy AND BUDGET (financial)” security to this title, since a huge part budget consists of taxes on profits from energy sales ... And - not only ...
    It’s already a normal step that the GDP made it clear to the US State Department that ONLY Russian laws are in force on the territory of the Russian Federation ... Although this is said in words, but thank God ...
    “Russia can calmly look at all this from the outside, having one more trump ace in hand: if necessary, Russia can suspend all trade and economic relations with Bandera Ukraine, which has officially declared Russia“ an aggressor country ”...
    Hmm ... Why the hell wasn't that done a few years ago ???
    In general, the United States stirs up water, Europe dances to the tune of the United States (though not always falling in time), and Ukraine announces changes over Russia ...
    Normal routine ... Ugh !!! ...
  12. Strashila
    Strashila 7 March 2018 10: 48
    0
    "Ukrainian observers report that American advisers have been running the Naftogaz office at home for a long time, and we can assume that they provoked Naftogaz: they promised him to throw Gazprom in the Stockholm arbitration." ... if you proceed from this information ... then the Ukrainians were also thrown at the kickbacks, the babosy were taken by their American curators ... yesAaaa ... your world is supreme wonderful.
  13. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 7 March 2018 11: 31
    +1
    I like this one of their shadow eb-kabuki tetra, where you don’t need to buy tickets! All the spectacles and lists for a freebie! But just when the ball ends and the veche ends, they remove the mittens from their long, dexterous and strained palms! And falling asleep with Naftalingaz they will hide the dolls in the chest! Pinocchio is lacking with Chippolina.
  14. Vlad Petrov
    Vlad Petrov 7 March 2018 14: 36
    0
    Of course, Ukraine will find a way out of the gas crisis into a brighter future. The unfading, steel Julia has long been a supporter of the production of biofuels from algae, she saw it in the swamp. Yushchenko recalled that you can heat the nation with straw and dung. The Groysman cabinet immediately promptly developed a financial model for the processing of garbage and the subsequent generation of energy. It’s not just that they brought in Lviv rubbish. And in all of Ukraine there is so much dermis, Forever.
  15. Quintus sertorius
    Quintus sertorius 7 March 2018 14: 50
    0
    Somewhere already it was.
    Russia - Sweden - Poltava. That is still transit.
  16. Cuba
    Cuba 7 March 2018 15: 42
    0
    Quote: The same Lech
    Well, why the logic of UKRAINE was ... they still believe that gas from RUSSIA through the pipe of UKRAINE is forever ... it's like an ever-rising sun with warmth and a freebie from the east that will always be.
    And now the sun suddenly didn’t rise and night fell ... a cold night and in order to keep warm you have to pay Europe very dearly for this ... as they say UKRAINE tse EUROPE ... so be it.
    Now, UKRAINE and EUROPE have a question of money ...
    who will pay for this banquet ... Gazprom refused ... Europe also doesn’t want to keep pan-and-panheads for free ... the USA is far away and with its LNG will ruin the villages completely ... as they say business is nothing personal ... have arrived.


    Yes, they scatter in Poland, Canada and all business !! ....
  17. Cuba
    Cuba 7 March 2018 15: 44
    +1
    Quote: Vlad Petrov
    Of course, Ukraine will find a way out of the gas crisis into a brighter future. The unfading, steel Julia has long been a supporter of the production of biofuels from algae, she saw it in the swamp. Yushchenko recalled that you can heat the nation with straw and dung. The Groysman cabinet immediately promptly developed a financial model for the processing of garbage and the subsequent generation of energy. It’s not just that they brought in Lviv rubbish. And in all of Ukraine there is so much dermis, Forever.



    You still forgot about fart gas - this is a huge resource !! .. sheer delirium !!!
  18. Old military officer
    Old military officer 7 March 2018 15: 57
    0
    But. Soon the descendants of the Sumerians will remember their Slavic roots. So what to do? It's cold after all. Brains must be well cleaned. The authors, however, are likely to slip into the placements of deposits, if they have time. But this is internal Ukrainian affairs.
  19. Brave Schweik-2
    Brave Schweik-2 7 March 2018 16: 09
    0
    I saw a lot of fools, but there aren’t such fostered Banderas! Glory to Ukraine? As you wish...
  20. m077ea
    m077ea 7 March 2018 16: 34
    +1
    Cube123,
    again))) this
    hathaskraynot ...
    I repeat my question - did you also keep your head in the sand under Yeltsin? or did they affect the situation with all their might? they didn’t allow ... no they didn’t allow that guide to make a bunch of mistakes? devaluation? Chechnya? squandering everyone and everything? nothing depends on ordinary people there. Against aggressive active propaganda supported by the authorities
  21. Ostap Cherry
    Ostap Cherry 7 March 2018 17: 22
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    “SP2” would have already moved then. But the Kremlin camarilla is constantly being persuaded, promises, “Minsk conspiracies”

    I wonder what kind of camarilla SP2 actually initiated? Apparently, Washington .. Or did they (SP-2 and Turkish Stream) spontaneously spawn in dirty linen?
  22. istealth
    istealth 7 March 2018 17: 35
    0
    Either there is some kind of plan and the situation is thought out, or then we will be fined in three hides, property will be arrested, etc. for failure to comply with a court decision and contract terms. So I think all these dances around the termination of contracts in vain ... it's all oh how easy it is ...
    Flag is not mine am
  23. Curious
    Curious 7 March 2018 18: 41
    0
    Kamenev in his repertoire. Thunders in timpani and trumpets in panfare. The main thing is that the “swan” cannot be frightened off with such noise. Chernooooogooooo !!!!
  24. kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek 7 March 2018 18: 46
    +2
    Russia has done everything right. Of the several evils, the smallest is chosen. What do Gazprom’s “losses” from ships mean, against the acceleration of the construction of Nord Stream-2, and the benefits of transit directly to Europe. And for the EU, it is a guarantee of energy stability.
  25. kriwo.alek
    kriwo.alek 7 March 2018 18: 51
    0
    Quote: istealth
    Either there is some kind of plan and the situation is thought out, or then we will be fined in three hides, property will be arrested, etc. for failure to comply with a court decision and contract terms. So I think all these dances around the termination of contracts in vain ... it's all oh how easy it is ...
    Flag is not mine am

    The fact is that Russia can send this Stockholm arbitration to hell, and just get out of it with the cessation of funding. So they will think three times before they lose our money.
  26. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 7 March 2018 19: 37
    0
    I think that the verdict can be appealed on the grounds of an incorrect judgment of the arbitrators.
    Well, the fact that Gazprom began the process of terminating the contracts was already planned, maybe not this time, but a little later, but this was due to happen in connection with the construction of two new “Streams”.
    Most likely, Gazprom considered the whole process from the point of view of a negative decision, and this current position, of course, has been prepared.
  27. bobnew2017
    bobnew2017 7 March 2018 19: 47
    0
    I liked the author, well done!
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 7 March 2018 21: 13
      0
      I do not like that in the article. that there are at least some figures for gas calculations. Generally . This topic is muddy. as soon as they start saying "gas price for Ukraine at a discount." I think right away. that there is something wrong. And you can just trade without a discount and that’s it? If you want to lose a friend, give him money. And so it happened. And the rest of Europe is quietly sold without discounts and scandals.
      1. Muslim
        Muslim 7 March 2018 22: 27
        0
        You are absolutely right, Ukraine, purchasing gas from European companies, has already replenished its budget with fees from Gazprom for its transit. There the prices are different, it depends on the direction, season, its cost, sometimes it reaches 80 cu for 1000 cubes. And when voicing the price from Europe, one must understand that Ukraine has already received from Gazprom for these volumes and in reality it costs Ukraine cheaper for the transit cost of the same volumes. This is what gave Waltzman reason to say that Ukraine buys cheaper gas from Europe. At first, the EU dumped, and now everything, Naftogaz and Gazprom quarreled, nothing personal - business.
  28. Muslim
    Muslim 7 March 2018 22: 18
    0
    Not an article, but complete nonsense.
    To the author, I propose to get acquainted with the technology of the GTS in Ukraine.
    And so for reference:
    1. It’s not stale as it stole gas from the gas transportation system and it steals (Well, the gas transportation system in this territory is arranged in such a way that the stolen gas goes as technological losses, Gazprom takes full account for deliveries from Ukraine, on the borders of the former USSR)
    2. Both decisions of the Stockholm arbitration are widely regarded as the rout of all Gazprom claims (this is a retribution for the self-confidence of Gazprom lawyers) with far-reaching consequences.
    3. Ukraine, even before the Maidan, has always advocated blackmail. And the last four years, openly supported all of Gazprom’s competitors, and the war in Syria has pushed the arrival of the Middle East gas somewhat
    raw materials, but it is inevitable.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 March 2018 23: 22
      0
      "And the war in Syria somewhat pushed the arrival of the Middle East gas
      of raw materials, but it’s inevitable. "Yes, only now all this will go the same for the interests of Russia - as the main owner of oil refineries and everything else associated with hydrocarbons in the region.
  29. Orionvit
    Orionvit 7 March 2018 23: 51
    0
    Anatoly Denisov,
    Judging by your comment, the young man is about 20 years old, maximum. How can you judge what you have not seen and cannot even imagine. Do you have any idea what technology is? Probably in your view this is a mobile phone, or laptop with the provision of mobile Internet services. Sincerely sorry for you.
  30. N1SOLNE- Vz0shLo-o-o-0
    N1SOLNE- Vz0shLo-o-o-0 8 March 2018 00: 54
    +1
    let the freezing brotherly people be warmed by my warm greetings!
  31. Mih1974
    Mih1974 8 March 2018 02: 45
    0
    Cube123,
    Thank you, we have analyzed the situation very accurately and in detail. For four years in Ukria, coffins returned from the front, with varying degrees of intensity. Destroyed enterprises, more recently, the locomotives of the Ukrainian economy, and not by air bombing like Dresden, but "themselves." Moreover, as one Ukrainian pinned at Sharya in a vidosik, in response to the question “are you ready to fasten the heating to win Putin” - “Ukraine has not been buying gas in Russia for two years now,” “who told you?” "- But didn’t you listen, Poroshenko said that." good lol
    That is, until the "pots" from hunger and coffins there is a realization of the truth of the situation - helping them is useless. It’s like a psycho in a straitjacket - until the attack releases him, removing it from the patient will only damage him, because in freedom he will be maimed.
    Personally, I am for "putting on a straitjacket," by delivering rocket-bombing strikes at the ukrovermaht and expelling them beyond the administrative borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions good . By the way, this will solve many of the socio-communal problems of New Russia, well, there the fascists turn off the electricity, water supply, which is constantly bombing.
  32. moreanda
    moreanda 8 March 2018 07: 42
    0
    It’s just that as a result of all these “GAMES”, our 34% of GAS supplies to Europe did not become AMERICAN LNG, to which the Americans are leading Europe. They wanted to spit on her and everything else. "In America, everything is not serious, except for money." /quote/. America has ALWAYS been ruled by financial and economic bandits. They will NOT get any better. Gazprom and the Russian government SHOULD (!!!) negotiate with anyone and anything, just to save our 34% of gas. Better - MULTIPLE! Miller, DO NOT SLEEP!
    A. Morev
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 8 March 2018 12: 41
      +2
      Can give gas for nothing?
      Milsudarya you from which oak fell, the case is not "Glory to Ukraine"?
      Remember the RF ANYTHING AND ANYTHING!
  33. Alexey Erzhikovsky
    Alexey Erzhikovsky 8 March 2018 12: 13
    0
    The trouble with the Ruins is that it is led by inadequate people. Or, quoting the first "president" of the UNR: "... those who do not need it at all !!"
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 11 March 2018 07: 36
      0
      That is the question - why? In a country with a 40+ millionth population, adexvats do not exist?
  34. Real Tbilisi
    Real Tbilisi 8 March 2018 12: 19
    0
    The United States will gladly supply liquefied gas to Europe.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 8 March 2018 12: 50
      0
      Tell me at prices lower than the Russian Federation! laughing
      Everything tends to end, patience among the population of Urkaini, too.
  35. Cynic
    Cynic 8 March 2018 12: 33
    0
    Everything is clear, only why we pass by the fact that SP-1 is loaded somewhere by 50% percent, I am silent about the diversification of gas supplies to Geyropu ...
  36. alexandrastafiev
    alexandrastafiev 8 March 2018 21: 24
    0
    And it seems that Ukrainians some time ago refused to buy gas from us themselves. And the authors then creaked with feathers that Ukraine therefore overpays for transit gas. It was clear that in the winter Ukrainians could start buying gas. Now Gazprom seems to have broken them with this opportunity. So what, where and why is such a delight?
  37. Celt
    Celt 9 March 2018 09: 38
    0
    the arbitration motivated its decision by the difficult, economic situation of Ukraine ... you see, they will pay everything, and they will sign the contracts ... we will cheat again, our partners))))
  38. Nevyatoy
    Nevyatoy 9 March 2018 15: 35
    0
    A convenient case under the guise of a contract break is to review the currency of which payment will be made on future contracts.
  39. d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 9 March 2018 22: 25
    +2
    Banderlog, in spite of Russia, cut off their ears so as not to hear common sense!
  40. iouris
    iouris 9 March 2018 22: 45
    +3
    Strange title: according to the decision of the arbitration, Gazprom lost again, and there it will be seen. Europe is heated by gas coming from the territory of the Russian Federation, but the population of the Russian Federation does not benefit very much from this: the money goes to bonuses and the laying of new gas pipelines. Ukraine, of course, is not a tenant, but the fact is that it is Anti-Russia, so it will exist as long as the Russian Federation exists. For what purpose was the Poroshenko regime recognized?
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 9 March 2018 22: 52
      +5
      Quote: iouris
      Europe is heated by gas coming from the territory of the Russian Federation, but the population of the Russian Federation does not benefit very much from this: money goes to ...

      ... $ 163,9 billion - revenues to the budget of the Russian Federation from the export of energy resources (2018, plan).
      So
      Quote: iouris
      ... gasket ...

      ... you can keep it. Juris wink
  41. Architects
    Architects 10 March 2018 07: 34
    0
    REINFORCEMENT ordinary
  42. Alexander Prikhodko
    Alexander Prikhodko 10 March 2018 13: 30
    0
    comrades, socialists lead you on the wrong road, capitalists - capitalism is eternal crisis and war.
  43. 933454818
    933454818 11 March 2018 12: 20
    0
    Well, what is incomprehensible? Ukraine has not lived in its own mind for a long time. And the Americans live in their own world and "greatness" prevents them from really looking at things. And Ukrainians do not care deeply about both Americans and Europeans ... So, glory to Ukraine?
    1. CarabasBarabas
      CarabasBarabas 11 March 2018 16: 33
      0
      ‌ Why not expressly state that the energy crisis in Europe is beneficial for the United States, industrial enterprises are bending over in Europe - US competitors, and the budget possibilities of Russia are decreasing. The USA receives double profit, triple - it is still possible to supply its liquefied gas, the competitiveness of European producers is reduced - production in the USA is growing. Therefore, state advisers in / in Ukraine are trying to cut off energy supply and chemical production in Europe. The green demons in Europe also work for this: the closure of nuclear power plants, coal-fired power generation, the development of "alternative" generation - this will lead to the collapse of the entire power supply system. The worse in Europe, the better for the USA. Germany will have time to launch SP-2 - they will receive a temporary respite from the crisis, well, then the states will come up with something else, they’ve imported rabies for a reason. The states create conditions for the flow of capital over the puddle, the faster the flow of capital begins, the further the start of the next economic crisis is pushed back and it is important for the states that it does not start with them.