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News from the president: military laser complex

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1 March, speaking with a message to the Federal Assembly, Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke about the six latest developments of the domestic defense industry. The head of state disclosed information on systems for strategic nuclear forces and other structures of the army. One of the samples presented, unlike the others, does not belong to the category of strategic nuclear weapons, but despite this, is of great interest. Russian industry has created a new combat laser complex.


Speaking about the latest achievements of the domestic defense industry, V. Putin recalled advanced foreign projects. It is well known that a number of foreign states are currently working on promising models of weapons using so-called new physical principles. According to the president, there is every reason to believe that in this area, Russia is one step ahead of the competition. In any case, in the right areas.



The President pointed to the achievement of significant results in the field of laser weapons. At the same time, this is not about the theoretical elaboration of ideas, the creation of projects or the beginning of mass production. The newest Russian laser complex is already being delivered to the troops. The first systems of this kind were transferred to the units last year.

V. Putin did not wish to disclose the details of the new project and clarify the main characteristics or capabilities of the promising weapon. Nevertheless, he noted that experts will understand the consequences of the emergence of such systems. The presence of laser combat systems will multiply expand the country's capabilities in ensuring its security.

Like several other newest weapons presented on the first day of spring, the combat laser complex does not yet have its own name. In this regard, the head of state invited everyone to come up with their own versions of the name for this system. The Ministry of Defense has launched a special Internet service, with which you can offer your version of the name for a combat laser and other new systems.


Complex machines on the march


The next day, V.Putin spoke at the Vth Media Forum of the All-Russian Popular Front in Kaliningrad, and within the framework of this event he again raised the issue of advanced weapons. He called the combat laser fiction, which, however, was realized in reality. The president compared this product with the hyperboloid of engineer Garin from the work of the same name A.N. Tolstoy.

Not the longest story of V. Putin about the combat laser complex was illustrated with a video. For some reason, the demo video turned out to be quite short and lasted the entire second 21. Unlike other commercials, this time they showed only the complex on the march, during deployment and in combat position. Frames of the use of this weapon, with real shooting or computer graphics, were not given. However, in this form the movie is quite interesting and gives certain information.

The demonstration of the combat laser complex began with the personnel of the system on the march. Two saddle tractors with semi-trailers of a special configuration got into the lens. Further, during the deployment of the system, a greater number of equipment was present at the site. Next to the combat vehicle carrying the laser, there were some other samples of special equipment with this or that auxiliary equipment.


Complex in the process of deployment


Of particular interest are personnel from the control center of the complex. The audience was shown several monitors, including those with the captions “ARM-1” and “ARM-2” (probably, “automated workplace” with numbers), as well as some kind of equipment rack. The complex controls include a computer-type keyboard, a control knob, and an obscure unit. At the workplace there are handsets from the composition of communication systems.

The video ends with a demonstration of the actual laser installation. The device characteristic appearance showed the work of horizontal and vertical guidance systems. The equipment worked with installed or removed plugs, as well as with different positions of the movable protective cover. "Shooting" at targets, however, was not shown.

The official video from the Ministry of Defense shows that several cars are part of the combat laser complex. Most likely, in addition to the carrier of the combat module, the complex includes control and communication machines, a mobile power station and other elements. The joint work of all these samples should ensure the solution of the assigned combat missions. For obvious reasons, the semi-trailer with a laser installation is of the greatest interest now.

The combat laser and its equipment are distinguished by their large size and weight, which is why they were installed on a semi-trailer with a five-axle undercarriage. In the center and at the stern of the semi-trailer there are four electric jacks. With their help, obviously, the semi-trailer should be hung out and leveled before the combat work.


General view of the semi-trailer in the stowed position


The front part of the semi-trailer with a laser, located above the fifth wheel coupling of the tractor, is equipped with a medium-sized casing accommodating certain auxiliary systems. Grilles on the sides of the casing and ventilation caps on the roof may hint at the composition of the internal equipment. The main platform carries two large container cases. In front is a smaller, accommodating equipment. The laser machine is located in the rear, characterized by increased length and more complex external contours.

The front half of the rear container has the maximum possible cross-section. Behind it, the sides and the roof form a smaller enclosure. The fact is that in the stern of the container a laser installation is placed, and above it there is a sliding roof. The unit of the U-shaped configuration with folding rear doors in preparation for the work moves forward and runs into the body section with smaller dimensions. This ensures the free operation of the laser system without restrictions on the angles of guidance.

In the stern of the semitrailer, under the protection of the sides and the sliding roof, there is the laser installation itself. It is based on a U-shaped support device without the possibility of rotation around a vertical axis. A large block of close to rectangular shape is swinging on this support in the vertical plane. On one of its walls there is a mount for the unit with the target equipment with the function of rotation. Two swivels allow the laser to be guided in any direction.

The upper unit of the installation received a case of rather complex shape with a cut off front part and a cylindrical rear section. On the left side of the hull there are two tubular housings of different sizes for the equipment. The forward inclined cut of the body is covered with a movable cover. In the stowed position, it lies on the sides, in the combat position it rises and allows the use of internal equipment. Side cylindrical covers are equipped with removable covers.


Laser machine with lids closed


Any information about the device and the internal units of the laser system is missing. It can be assumed that the laser emitter itself is located in the larger case, and it is his work that provides the rising cover. The side tubes in this case must accommodate optical-electronic means of observation, detection and tracking. The type of laser and its technical characteristics remain unknown. At best, they will only be published in the future.

In his Address to the Federal Assembly, the President announced only the fact of the existence of a nameless laser complex, and did not disclose details. In particular, the purpose of this product remains unknown. One can only guess where, how and why it is planned to use mobile systems with laser armament. Certain estimates and projections are already known, but, as expected, they may not receive confirmation in the future.

A laser of rather modest dimensions and, accordingly, not of the highest power, having developed guidance means in two planes, may look like a promising air defense system. Indeed, a combat laser of sufficient power can be a convenient means of countering manned and unmanned aviation the enemy. In this case, most likely, this is not about the physical destruction of the target, but about its incapacitation.

Modern combat aircraft and UAVs are equipped with a variety of optical-electronic systems designed for conducting reconnaissance, target detection and weapons use. A laser beam of sufficient power can damage the photosensitive elements of the optics and disable them, at least for a while. As a result, the plane or drone will lose some of its functions and will not be able to continue the task.


Product in a combat position


However, nothing prevents to make a more courageous assumption and consider the combat laser complex as a means of defeating equipment or weapons. In theory, a high-power laser beam is capable of transmitting thermal energy to an object and provoking its destruction. Having melted the body of the target, the laser will be able to blow up the missile warhead, cause a fuel to ignite, or burn the aircraft electronics in every sense. This use of laser weapons has been developed over several decades, and it cannot be ruled out that the newest project does not develop such ideas.

Regardless of the specific method of application, goals and objectives, a laser complex for military purposes may have some special advantages that distinguish it favorably from other systems of a similar purpose. So, acting as a means of opto-electronic suppression, the laser is the only system. All existing systems to combat tactical or unmanned aircraft use other principles. The removal of the aircraft out of action, they "prefer" complete destruction. Obviously, damage to electronics removes the aircraft from the battle is much easier and faster than a full-fledged attack using guided missiles or artillery.

If the new complex is equipped with a sufficiently powerful laser capable of melting down the structural elements of aircraft equipment, then it can be an interesting competitor for existing short-range anti-aircraft systems. It should be recalled that the transfer of thermal energy by means of a beam is associated with some problems. First of all, a long-term impact on the target may be necessary to obtain the desired result. In addition, various factors may interfere with the successful heating of the object, up to weather conditions.


Automated calculation jobs


Having certain limitations, the anti-aircraft laser complex can be cheaper to operate than its rocket rival. Each guided missile hitting a selected target has a relatively high cost. The price of a “shot” of a laser installation is hundreds and thousands of times less, which, incidentally, is accompanied by a higher cost of the complex itself. Thus, for the most efficient use of combat laser systems as part of air defense and to obtain the best economic results, it is necessary to develop new methods and solutions.

One of the main problems on the way the creators of combat lasers is power supply. High power laser needs adequate power. The published video shows that next to the semi-trailer of the nameless laser machine, the second machine from the complex is located at the position. Products are connected to each other with a large number of cables. This clearly indicates that the electric generator could not be placed on the same chassis with a laser, and therefore it is made as a separate element of the complex.

Separate placement of the generator set has already become the pretext for the wildest assumptions. In the discussions of the complex, a version was proposed on the use of a compact nuclear power plant, issuing sufficient power. An indirect confirmation of this version is the achievements in other areas, also announced by V. Putin. A new compact atomic system of sufficient power, suitable for installation on small-sized underwater vehicles, has already been tested and verified. However, all this, rather, is the fruit of a bold fantasy, and not the result of real work.



The President of Russia clarified that a promising combat laser complex is already being produced and is being sent to the troops. The first systems of this type were transferred to the armed forces last year. Obviously, the assembling of the complexes will continue, and in the foreseeable future, the air defense units (if this is really an anti-aircraft system) will master a significant amount of such equipment. Supplies will have a noticeable effect on the defense potential of the troops, and at the same time on the defense capability of the country as a whole.

Unfortunately, specialists and amateurs of military equipment, in his speech, Vladimir Putin did not disclose the most interesting features of a promising laser complex. However, the public has not remained completely out of work. As it turned out, the combat laser and a number of other promising types of weapons still do not have a name. The military and political leadership of the country did not resolve this issue on their own and turned to the people for help. Anyone can come up with their own designations for new weapons, including for the combat laser complex.

In his speech addressed to the Federal Assembly, but of great interest to the whole country and abroad, President Vladimir Putin described several of the latest weapons and equipment. In these developments, fundamentally new devices and approaches have been implemented that literally change the rules of the game. One of the ways to drastically change the situation was the combat laser complex. This system, even without having received its own name, already enters the troops and makes a certain contribution to the security of the country.


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  1. svp67
    svp67 9 March 2018 05: 52
    +9
    One way to radically change the situation was a combat laser system.
    I think it would be nice to call this complex "Firefly" wink
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 9 March 2018 10: 22
      0
      Quote: svp67
      One way to radically change the situation was a combat laser system.
      I think it would be nice to call this complex "Firefly" wink

      We still have to sell it later, this little candle ..... wassat
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 March 2018 11: 54
        +1
        But for themselves? No way?
        Quote: XXXIII
        Quote: svp67
        One way to radically change the situation was a combat laser system.
        I think it would be nice to call this complex "Firefly" wink

        We still have to sell it later, this little candle ..... wassat
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 9 March 2018 12: 51
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          But for themselves? No way?
          For themselves, what is it? recourse
      2. d1975
        d1975 9 March 2018 18: 48
        +2
        Well, here, you must have been very hasty, is it to sell? I doubt that it will be possible at all in the near future. The stakes are too high. stop
      3. satris
        satris 11 March 2018 12: 54
        +1
        I offer a short and clear: "BOLAK" - Combat Laser Complex. Without further ado ...
        1. SERVER
          SERVER 11 March 2018 17: 00
          +1
          And you can: Lazernoe Boevoy Complex))
          1. u1977020556
            u1977020556 April 4 2018 14: 43
            0
            Yes, for sure, that was what I should call it, for a while)))
      4. u1977020556
        u1977020556 April 4 2018 13: 00
        +1
        it will definitely not be sold. Analogs will be .. in 30-40 years. This is an honestly made system that solves the most important tasks inaccessible to other systems. It costs a lot, and most importantly, everything advanced in this industry is invested in it. Under Yeltsin, this could be sold, and cheaply. The technology of flowing carbon dioxide lasers was given to them (USA) for such a thing ... traitors of our country. And traitors must be very severely punished. Understanding of this is returning, therefore they will not sell.
    2. Artek
      Artek 10 March 2018 07: 17
      +1
      would really show this shmazer
  2. Vard
    Vard 9 March 2018 06: 28
    +5
    There are fundamental obstacles to the creation of laser weapons ... However, forty years ago, we and Samara in the Basov branch of whom the institute already had achievements ... Which made it possible to solve these problems ... So it may well be that the laser weapon .... Practical samples created ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 March 2018 09: 51
      +10
      Quote: Vard
      Practical samples created ...

      Thanks to Gazprom. Which did not allow to mitigate the topic of laser weapons because he needed tools to extinguish fires in gas wells.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 9 March 2018 10: 10
        +9
        Thanks to Gazprom. Who didn’t let us discuss the topic of laser weapons because he needed tools to extinguish fires in gas wells

        exactly, this complex is the next generation of MTLK-50, developed by TRINITY, Troitsk, Moscow Region
      2. 210ox
        210ox 9 March 2018 11: 55
        +2
        Ah! Well, yes .... Where are we without "public property" ....
        Quote: Spade
        Quote: Vard
        Practical samples created ...

        Thanks to Gazprom. Which did not allow to mitigate the topic of laser weapons because he needed tools to extinguish fires in gas wells.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 March 2018 12: 00
          +10
          You can scribble as much as you like, but it was they who kept this theme in the “dashing 90s”.
          1. XXXIII
            XXXIII 9 March 2018 14: 44
            +5
            Quote: Spade
            You can scribble as much as you like, but it was they who kept this theme in the “dashing 90s”.

            Why bother about where this miracle shoots and how far, and what can bring down! If we announce something to the whole world, then we need to show the product in work, and it looks like an advertising mask with its flight to Mars. And you can also not talk about the characteristics, it's a secret, then it was enough to put them in the Russian troops of 10 pieces, to confirm that this product works and goes into service. I don’t know from such advertising who could be scared or take this product seriously.
            Now the product is in action and adopted ....
            Israel has developed a new fifth-tier missile defense system, Iron Ray 19.01.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.
            Adopted: 2015 Iron Ray destroys targets by irradiating them for 4-5 seconds. The main advantages of the laser over interceptor missiles are the lower cost of a shot, unlimited ammunition, lower maintenance costs and a smaller number of weapons calculation, quick target hitting. Constructor: Rafael Manufacturer: Rafael
            This RF is lagging behind, but not ahead of everyone .... hi
            1. emwave
              emwave 9 March 2018 15: 31
              +2
              A green laser in the eye of the pilot? - a joke
            2. Cube123
              Cube123 9 March 2018 17: 01
              +14
              Quote: XXXIII
              This RF is lagging behind, but not ahead of everyone .... hi

              In the USSR, drones shot down with a laser in 1982.
              http://www.vko.ru/oboronka/glavnyy-konstruktor
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 9 March 2018 17: 12
                +1
                I don’t argue, I want to see how it works ... hi
                1. Cube123
                  Cube123 9 March 2018 17: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: XXXIII
                  I don’t argue, I want to see how it works ... hi

                  Absolutely the same as in the post UryukcToday, 11:33 AM, below. The screens were only black and white. laughing
                  1. XXXIII
                    XXXIII 9 March 2018 17: 45
                    +5
                    Quote: Cube123
                    Absolutely the same as in the post of Uryukc Today, 11:33 below. The screens were only black and white.

                    The laser complex project "Omega-2" is apparently alive, it has only changed a lot and it works on carbon dioxide (CO2 laser), but this is only an assumption ..... yes

                    The experimental complex 73T6 "Omega-2M", in which the high-power carbon-dioxide laser of the open type with electron pumping (BGRL) was the generator of high-power laser radiation. The locator was built on the basis of the television system TOV "Karat-2". The main designer of the complex was L. N. Zakharyev, his deputy and the responsible leader of all the work, Yu. A. Konyaev, on September 22, 1982, during the tests, for the first time in the USSR, the RUM-2B radio-controlled target was hit by laser radiation. Further tests confirmed the stability of the result. This was repeatedly demonstrated to representatives of the leadership of the country's air defense and the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry.


                    But Terra-3 is gone ... crying

                    ps Let the MO tells or shows normally, and not a 20 second video uploads to the Internet .... hi
                    1. d1975
                      d1975 9 March 2018 18: 51
                      +6
                      Do not you think that with publicity you need to be careful. Not a recipe because pies are at stake!
              2. zolotinka21
                zolotinka21 10 March 2018 08: 26
                +1
                Well, yes, Putin, like, was bluffing and did not know about Israel :-)) Russia +1000!
            3. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 10 March 2018 11: 39
              +3
              For Israel Fake. They have nothing.
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 10 March 2018 14: 58
                0
                Quote: Okolotochny
                For Israel Fake. They have nothing.

                Quote: zolotinka21
                Well, yes, Putin, like, was bluffing and did not know about Israel :-)) Russia +1000!

                Israel is small and not very strong, there has not yet been any application, which is in service with a big question, the project is classified .... request
          2. d1975
            d1975 9 March 2018 18: 50
            +2
            As far as I remember, is there a state stake in Gazprom?
    2. u1977020556
      u1977020556 April 4 2018 13: 04
      +1
      Yes, created, a probability of about 101 percent))
  3. Vlad Morozov
    Vlad Morozov 9 March 2018 06: 37
    +5
    It is of course clear that the answer is very worthy! Question to the pindos - why are you substituting the peoples of Europe by posting your "holey" pro ?! I agree that poor countries are following their corrupt presidents, but something human must remain ?! Or is it not interesting to the American fascists ?!
    1. pomegranate
      pomegranate 9 March 2018 07: 13
      +1
      Absolutely not interesting, the main thing is money money money !!!
    2. u1977020556
      u1977020556 April 4 2018 13: 09
      +1
      The US does not need missile defense in Europe, they need launchers with a flight time of less than 10 minutes and more across our border. They will not shoot at missiles but at you. This moment is already very close. The only alternative that is beneficial to the Russians is possible when they start shooting at each other. I am waiting for a war because I do not see anyone who needs peace.
  4. andrewkor
    andrewkor 9 March 2018 07: 08
    0
    What the GDP showed and showed, in my opinion, is highly advanced tests, but not yet a combat system. In my opinion, there is not enough security, armor, if you want. I think that in the future, we will see something in the form of a "Coalition".
    1. bistrov.
      bistrov. 9 March 2018 08: 10
      +9
      Quote: andrewkor
      highly advanced tests

      Back in the 80s, the USSR had an operational combat laser mounted on the IL-76. With the collapse, all this was taken care of. Now they have raised the documents, dusted off the dust, created again in a new quality.

      It once again shows how far various scientific research has advanced in the USSR, where there were hundreds of research institutes and they all developed and created something. Under EBN, American advisers sought to destroy scientific potential in the first place, succeeded in many ways, candidates and doctors of science went to sell Chinese consumer goods in order to survive, but apparently something else remained, despite the zeal of today's “stools,” which Now it is full in the liberal government of Medvedev, and in the leadership on the ground, and who everywhere put sticks into the wheels. Despite this, Russia still retained the ability to “surprise” the world.
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 9 March 2018 08: 55
        +8
        Quote: bistrov.
        Back in the 80s, the USSR had an operational combat laser mounted on the IL-76. With the collapse, all this was taken care of. Now they have raised the documents, dusted off, created again in a new quality

        Lasers are different. Your comparison is similar to the comparison of the plane of the 2nd world and modern aircraft of the 5th generation, and they both flew.
        Yes, lasers were invented a long time ago, but if you didn’t notice, then in the 80s the USSR had chemical-pumped combat lasers. And this laser is clearly solid-state. Pay attention to the slightly open lid and the cellular structure. We can conclude that this is an adaptive phased laser array consisting of low-power solid-state modules. As far as I know, work on adaptive lasers was carried out only in our research institute-2. It is difficult to give an accurate estimate of the effective range of this laser, but we can clearly say that it clearly exceeds the fiber-optic analogues of BAE Systems.
        1. Uryukc
          Uryukc 9 March 2018 11: 33
          +2
          Quote: Vita VKO
          And this laser is clearly solid-state. Pay attention to the slightly open lid and the cellular structure. We can conclude that this is an adaptive phased laser array consisting of low-power solid-state modules.

          I have a different thought: under the “cover” of the guidance radar. In round pipes, emitters are in a small pipe a radiator of lower power for short distances, in a large pipe, respectively, a radiator of higher power for long distances (we compensate for the scattering by higher power). On the rest of the cart there are capacitors for powering the unit, but above the saddle clutch there is a diesel power station, probably military posts behind it. I believe that the complex would be to fry drones and subsonic cruise missiles, but judging by the performance of Amer’s competitor, it’s impossible to repel a missile attack with just lasers.
          Here's how the filthy laser work on a drone:
          1. dauria
            dauria 9 March 2018 13: 38
            +2
            On the rest of the cart there are capacitors for powering the unit, but above the saddle clutch there is a diesel power station, probably military posts behind it.


            Well, and if the "head" is only the head, and the laser itself is in this "cart", as you put it? Not special, but the factory had a laser cutting machine from Soviet times. The laser itself was large (about 3x2x1,5 meters) with a bunch of stray (including gas cylinders). But the beam passed through a system of mirrors to a small head moving above a flat table (as in a plotter) and cut steel. Table 5x3 meters from polished corners. It’s not necessary to move the laser itself.
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 9 March 2018 13: 45
              +4
              Guys. Reread briefly the design of laser systems and the interaction with the substance. And then really disgrace IN. I want to talk, but how?
              1. dauria
                dauria 9 March 2018 13: 52
                +4
                I want to talk, but how?


                So say no one shuts your mouth. Draw a diagram (functional, electrical, kinematic, etc.). Give the numbers of calculations of capacities, dimensions, type of targets and distances from the weather, justify them. Show us, gray, that you know much more than these photos. Just say thanks.
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 9 March 2018 14: 42
                  +12
                  Yes, a good thought. I’ll try to make an overview of military and industrial control systems with functional diagrams (I don’t promise installation ones), I’ll try not to overload it with an technical bias. I just didn’t think that anyone needed this. All the same, they’ve gathered to chat.
                  1. u1977020556
                    u1977020556 April 4 2018 13: 16
                    +1
                    Be sure to do it, it will be interesting.
                2. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 9 March 2018 14: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: dauria
                  I want to talk, but how?

                  So say no one shuts your mouth. Draw a diagram (functional, electrical, kinematic, etc.). Give the numbers of calculations of capacities, dimensions, type of targets and distances from the weather, justify them. Show us, gray, that you know much more than these photos. Just say thanks.

                  They do not really know their characteristics, everything is classified, what calculations can be done here without knowing what you are working with .... laughing
                  Quote: Shahno
                  Guys. Reread briefly the design of laser systems and the interaction with the substance. And then really disgrace IN. I want to talk, but how?

                  What do you know about your Iron Ray product? smile
                  1. Shahno
                    Shahno 9 March 2018 15: 36
                    +2
                    I will try to describe in an article ... The system about does not currently have separate batteries with such weapons. But a boiling bargel uses lasers in a combat situation, these are prototypes.
                    I don’t know where you got the information from. A few mob. installations cover the sector in the area of ​​thermal power plants at the moment.
                    1. XXXIII
                      XXXIII 9 March 2018 16: 53
                      +1
                      Quote: Shahno
                      boiling barsel
                      This is an iron dome ... But where is this product used? request
                      Rafael Advanced Defense System, an Israeli military industry concern, presented at the exhibition in Seoul the latest Iron Ray combat laser system designed to destroy mortar shells, ultra-small radius missiles, and small unmanned aerial vehicles at a distance of up to 7 kilometers.

                      Rafael officials said the new system was the result of five years of research and development in solid state laser.
                      You can dig something on the Internet, maybe where the veil of secrets was opened, only the project is clearly classified to this day. yes
              2. Uryukc
                Uryukc 9 March 2018 14: 33
                +1
                Quote: Shahno
                Guys. Reread briefly the design of laser systems and the interaction with the substance. And then really disgrace IN. I want to talk, but how?

                And that HE has authority equal to the General Staff or to which design bureau? Leave constructive comments, please be kind enough to come down to us gray))
            2. Uryukc
              Uryukc 9 March 2018 14: 37
              +2
              Quote: dauria
              Well, and if the "head" is only the head, and the laser itself is in this "cart", as you put it?

              Yes, of course not, watch the video in my previous post and then you will understand that round pipes are lasers. And he won’t get rid of the cart, because somewhere there should be an array of capacitors capable of quickly giving up a lot of energy.
  5. Serzh_R
    Serzh_R 9 March 2018 08: 06
    0
    Soon all the powers rivet such a thousand and send into space to fight. If not already sent.
    On the topic of missile defense - the name of the complex
    "PROSHA."
  6. Whowhy
    Whowhy 9 March 2018 08: 14
    +1
    Being high-frequency radiation, the laser beam can be modulated at lower frequencies. A modulated beam, in comparison with a "clean" beam, can have much more destructive properties and penetration .....
    1. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 9 March 2018 08: 58
      +6
      A modulated beam, compared to a “clean” beam, can have much more destructive properties and penetration.
      But from this place, please, in more detail.
      1. dauria
        dauria 9 March 2018 14: 15
        +3
        But from this place, please, in more detail.


        I'll try to stand up for WhoWhy. To punch a hole in concrete, they do not press constantly, but "hammer". Amplitude Modulation - also Modulation wink Perhaps a series of frequent “explosions” from heating is more effective than constant “burning”? Affirm nothing, but laugh at "can have much more destructive properties and penetration ..... "too early.
      2. Whowhy
        Whowhy 13 March 2018 17: 43
        +1
        Well, at least there is such a thing as resonance. wink But not only that. Why do you think the American astronauts flying in a shuttle over Russia in some areas felt very bad? wassat
  7. philosopher
    philosopher 9 March 2018 08: 43
    +2
    The fact that this system is related to air defense, in my opinion, indicates the almost complete absence of reservation, in any case, the choice of chassis does not correspond conditions ground operations. A strong feeling that this system is to disable enemy drones on a wholesale scale.
    1. u1977020556
      u1977020556 April 4 2018 13: 51
      +1
      No, not only air defense, the beam can be directed, if necessary, to the ground (at an angle of 2-4 degrees). Everything that can move dies within 2-10 minutes, even after 1-2 seconds of exposure after exposure, regardless of the form of clothing and size. There are many more interesting points. "Relight" is not made to defeat the UAV. This installation is able to permanently "knock out the eye" to any satellite, it costs him to open the plugs on the optics. We saw photos from satellites - now it will be almost impossible to make them. Relight can easily turn any rocket into a flying straight blank, and in a very short time, while speed and trajectory are not a hindrance to guidance - pipes of different diameters are not lasers of different powers, they are lasers of different devices (ranges) and purposes . There really is something to be proud of. All foreign laser samples today are fly swatters of various very limited ranges. The point is not in power, but in the high cost of practically useful systems. They get "platinum machines" with "golden" bullets. But "Relight" is a completely different level, they can be done in series and trust the soldier with earflaps. And the output power makes it useless in the impact sector not only ballistic or other missiles. Outer space can now be shot through. For example, I don’t think that an enemy shuttle full of American pi-satellites and European Eccentrics could just fly in space and do “research” over our heads. ... In general, "Relight" will still show itself, it was created just for this.
  8. groks
    groks 9 March 2018 09: 15
    +3
    Nda. Something has been shown. They said that the laser, for which they did not say. The authors of many articles, and this article too, cannot confidently assume the purpose of this is unknown. Drop dead.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 March 2018 09: 57
      +6
      Judging by the fact that the Americans were again excited about the blinding of their satellites, they realized why this unit was needed. 8)))
      By the way, the two cylinders next to the "main caliber" may allude to this. This is similar to the receiver and transmitter of a scanning laser system. Detecting optics.
      1. groks
        groks 9 March 2018 11: 43
        +3
        These two cylinders and the emitter and receiver? Shaky for the receiver, but oh well. It turns out such a LADAR, which for 100-200 km (one way!) Will scan something there. Radio waves do not suit us at all. Okay. For these same 100-200 km, we get a satellite image (no one else has received it, but we can). It was optics that were highlighted in the picture, and not just a round and shiny thing. And they burst into it. If the atmospheric conditions allow, then we will bring some of the energy. And maybe we will burn the sensitive element. There are persistent rumors that the matrices are standing there in the turret and are replaced within a few seconds. During the scan, the installation coordinates will be received and something bad will fly there. Well, this is as always - you have to have time to get away.
        Can this thing kill at least something on the satellite? So far no one has been able to.
        Wet drones and planes with this thing? The chance to lose the installation grows by orders of magnitude, and aircraft optics are not the main thing at all. And they resumed work on Compression. Like. Everything there is adult - scanning lasers, tank chassis, armored shutters.
        And then what kind of thing? Maybe it's just something completely different? What kind of weapon is psychological? But the point is to cow them ....
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 March 2018 12: 15
          +2
          Quote: groks
          These two cylinders and the emitter and receiver? Shaky for the receiver

          On the contrary, it’s healthy. More than a "laser tank", at least visually

          Quote: groks
          And maybe we will burn the sensitive element

          What for? I wrote about the "blinding" and not about bringing the satellite into disrepair. Although this, in principle, is possible under an ideal set of circumstances.
          Remember the stories with airplanes and laser pointers. Did they burn out the eyes of the pilots? No. So what were they complaining about then? In your opinion there was no reason for concern, and are these just the vagaries of the pilots?
          1. groks
            groks 9 March 2018 12: 53
            +1
            We have two cylinders. And hefty shapeless crap. If we assume that crap is the source of the attacking beam, then two cylinders - the emitter and the target receiver. So?
            "Laser Tank" does not work in orbit.
            What for?
            Then. It is necessary to at least slightly introduce the subject of conversation so that such questions are not asked. An optical device consists of an optical system (mirrors, lenses, ...) and a sensitive element (sensor, PIP, ...). Which sensor we are trying to bang, bringing to him a prohibitive amount of energy in the transmission range of the optical system.
            This is exactly what Compression does. About. To the extent permitted by the laws of nature.
            What pilots, what pointers .... We are trying to distract the attention of the satellite (!), Playfully dedicating it to the lenses ?!
            Even in Vietnam, the Americans put scanning lasers and burned a yellow spot to everyone who looked at the plane in optics.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 9 March 2018 13: 41
              +5
              Quote: groks
              We have two cylinders. And hefty shapeless crap. If we assume that crap is the source of the attacking beam, then two cylinders - the emitter and the target receiver. So?

              Most likely so. Just not just "guidance" but "precise guidance and tracking"



              Quote: groks
              Then. It is necessary to at least slightly introduce the subject of conversation so that such questions are not asked.

              It is necessary to hold binoculars in your hands at least once in your life to ask such a question 8)))
              Now let’s you look through the binoculars, and I will shine into it with an ordinary flashlight. I won’t burn your retina like that; I won’t ruin the optical system of binoculars. However, you will not see anything.
              Okay, let's take something simpler. Right now, go to the mirror and try to take your photo with a flash. Did it work out well? No. But at the same time, the camera on your phone did not deteriorate.
              This is called "suppression of optics" and not its destruction. To make it clear to you, when a REP is jamming a signal, this does not mean that the suppressed radio station fails.
              And before recalling the old Soviet systems for the destruction of optics, it is worth recalling much more modern systems for its suppression. These are installed on Infauna, on the Nerekhta robotic complex, there are also freestanding ones such as the LS-101 counteraction station, and there is a Spider mounted on small arms that prevents the enemy from firing even with open sights.
              1. groks
                groks 9 March 2018 15: 24
                0
                The idea is clear. She's crazy. It is proposed to humanely illuminate an enemy lens, accompanying with incredible accuracy a satellite for several hundred km.
                Infauna very simply suppresses everything optical - puts smoke. And we have a bit different. Although ... maybe it's a super duper smoke generator?
                1. KCA
                  KCA 11 March 2018 19: 51
                  0
                  What size will the laser spot be at a distance of several hundred kilometers? I think it’s quite enough to enlighten the entire satellite for a working impulse, the optical instruments of which, of course, are directed to the Earth, and not from it
  9. Koshkin
    Koshkin 9 March 2018 09: 29
    +3
    "One of the main problems on the path of the creators of combat lasers is the power supply."
    I’m not sure what the battle laser was shown, but not some model that has nothing to do with the original - it looks like a laser, and that’s it.
    The energy supply problem can be easily solved by placing combat lasers near huge Russian power plants. Then it will be possible to burn enemies even on the moon.
    1. Chaos
      Chaos 9 March 2018 10: 08
      0
      Do you know what a combat laser system should look like? Power plants will be destroyed in the first minutes of the war. Village))
    2. alstr
      alstr 9 March 2018 10: 23
      0
      Yeah, only each air defense system has several DES in its composition and each control center also has its own DES.

      By the way, I think that a separate execution of a power plant is also connected with unification for other weapons systems (for example, the same strategists), i.e. such a power unit can be used separately. If this is not something nuclear (which is quite possible against the background of statements about NQR), then such blocks may well find application not only in the army, but also in civilian life.
    3. TOR2
      TOR2 9 March 2018 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: Koshkin
      The energy supply problem can be easily solved by placing combat lasers near huge Russian power plants. Then it will be possible to burn enemies even on the moon

      To hit objects with a laser beam, you need direct visibility and very good weather. The power plant is an object of critical infrastructure and it is not very unreasonable to let the enemy in to it. In addition, the MO will not like the fact that the object is stationary and volatile.
      But the laser location to protect such objects will be very welcome. Energy intensity is a serious problem, so the HDD will do just fine.

      Given the capacity of diesel generator sets that our industry can produce, the detection range will be about 400 km. All the stealth of flying objects will go down the drain. This thing does not fry anyone, it finds and merges the Old on the S-400. In the case of a blizzard or fog, the effectiveness of the laser locator will fall significantly, therefore, the calculation will need to change the platform to a standard radar. Something like that.
  10. Lex.
    Lex. 9 March 2018 09: 30
    +1
    I wonder how with patency probably only on asphalt
    1. 11 black
      11 black 9 March 2018 09: 59
      0
      Quote: Lex.
      I wonder how with patency probably only on asphalt

      Probably not only hi
      Although of course, it seems he really is not intended for heavy off-road on this chassis
    2. XXXIII
      XXXIII 9 March 2018 15: 01
      0
      Quote: Lex.
      I wonder how with patency probably only on asphalt

      What, asphalt, will fly into space, there is no need for asphalt ..... tongue
  11. Firework
    Firework 9 March 2018 10: 08
    +6
    words are too often found: Vladimir Putin, president, etc. even if this material is in support of the current head of state, but why do so many repeat the same thing?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 9 March 2018 23: 08
      +1
      probably because he announced the complex, not 7
  12. Old26
    Old26 9 March 2018 11: 04
    +6
    Quote: Vard
    There are fundamental obstacles to the creation of laser weapons ... However, forty years ago, we and Samara in the Basov branch of whom the institute already had achievements ... Which made it possible to solve these problems ... So it may well be that the laser weapon .... Practical samples created ...

    Too little information to speculate what it is. Either this is a laser locator, or a complex designed to disable the enemy's ECO, or the laser, in its first form, is a weapon. It turns out fortunetelling on the coffee grounds ....
  13. Diviz
    Diviz 9 March 2018 12: 04
    0
    The unit is placed on a plane or spaceship, although this is not the case.
  14. Yura Yakovlev
    Yura Yakovlev 9 March 2018 12: 32
    +1
    "The president compared this product to the engineer hyperboloid Garin."
    I think that the President did not deceive. There was a time when lasers were used in combat conditions, and quite effectively.
    1. mark1
      mark1 12 March 2018 19: 44
      +1
      Plus for attentiveness! The president just doesn’t talk - since a hyperboloid, and even "... just fantastic ..." - it means it cuts and does not blind, and I think not only drones, the hyperboloid, as you know, gnawed to the olivine belt and then you look at some kind of inferior war block ...
  15. shinobi
    shinobi 9 March 2018 13: 24
    +1
    Judging by some elements, a chemical gas laser. And they are currently the most powerful. They are used in the aircraft industry for extremely precise cutting of titanium sheets.
    1. emwave
      emwave 9 March 2018 15: 39
      0
      Type CO2 laser?
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 10 March 2018 09: 50
        0
        No, the CO2 laser (also a powerful thing) uses the classical pumping scheme from an external source. In the chemical due to the reaction of the components among themselves. For example, the classics of the hydrogen boron + fluorine genre in a supersonic flow. The disadvantage is the extreme aggressiveness of the working components and their irreplaceability. Like in a gun .All cartridges, amba arrow.
        1. emwave
          emwave 10 March 2018 10: 00
          0
          Such a chemical laser is clearly bad. Ammo run out. Something is apparently different.
  16. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 9 March 2018 13: 48
    0
    Laser complex. I will offer my name - "Basilio".
  17. sir_obs
    sir_obs 9 March 2018 14: 10
    0
    This is a pointer. How long should a cat be that you could play with rey?
  18. aKtoR
    aKtoR 9 March 2018 14: 40
    +1
    What else to add? In appearance, we can say the following: the complex is designed to protect stationary objects from air targets, probably unmanned aerial vehicles. The complex is not a battlefield - must be placed beyond the reach of artillery and MLRS. The complex, sufficiently powerful in terms of radiation, should be, but there are problems with heat removal at maximum power — partially painted white — in order to absorb less solar energy in the southern regions. The unmasking sign. It has the ability to track and hit targets that have high angular velocities - otherwise they would have solved the problem of protection from solar radiation in another way. To reduce heat generation, it probably has two emitters: a larger (combat) and a smaller one - a range finder. The range finder, in theory, should be used to track the target and escort it to the "shot" of the combat laser.
  19. vadim dok
    vadim dok 9 March 2018 15: 15
    +5
    And why did you all laugh together over the AMERICAN laser?
    1. emwave
      emwave 9 March 2018 15: 37
      +1
      Such a funny little fluffy animal - he hit a cardboard floating and flying ... if you look at the battery of the Tesla car, you get the idea that their laser consists of a million Chinese laser pointers!
      1. Bersaglieri
        Bersaglieri 9 March 2018 20: 13
        +1
        What is American HEL, what is a domestic complex - devices of one power class. The laws of physics in this Universe are the same for everyone :)
      2. Bersaglieri
        Bersaglieri 9 March 2018 20: 15
        0
        "... a laser consists of a million Chinese laser pointers! ..." - but aside from jokes: just now (due to progress in the field of solid-state lasers) powerful devices are assembled (an array of small elements in a single aperture). It turns out more compact than the "classic" gas-dynamic.
        1. emwave
          emwave 10 March 2018 10: 04
          0
          Count how many pointers are needed for a total power of at least 50 kW? And multiply by the efficiency of a solid-state laser - what kind of power supply will be needed? What is the heat sink from the pointers?
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 9 March 2018 18: 22
      +1
      Quote: vadim dok
      And why did you all laugh together over the AMERICAN laser?

      So American, why not neighing. That laser is not enough for PR. Such a powerful, self-propelled.
  20. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 9 March 2018 15: 58
    +3
    The adversaries startled and jumped. But the battle laser has not been canceled. They clearly said that the nuclear reactor is packed in a 200 liter barrel.
    Comrades, jokes are bad with such a thing from Comrade Kiriyenko. This garbage can not only pump the laser. No matter how we do this, they did not fly to Alpha Centauri.
    Although, whether to do horseradish there, even the grass does not grow there, established nasa and 100500 experts. The temperature there is not suitable for photosynthesis.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 10 March 2018 02: 19
      +1
      Do not fly up to the stars, do not be afraid :) The specific impulse is small :)
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 9 March 2018 18: 23
    +1
    it’s not otherwise a tribute to military fashion, and here’s an expensive toy, price, storage, maintenance, security and its combat effectiveness, however, it raises some doubts about its military expediency in general ...
  22. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 9 March 2018 20: 11
    +1
    They reconstructed the subject matter of the Leningrad Oblast that the NGO Geophysics has led for over 40 years. Everything is real here.
  23. Satum
    Satum 10 March 2018 08: 06
    +1
    It is necessary to sell to China))
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 10 March 2018 15: 00
      0
      Quote: Satum
      It is necessary to sell to China))

      It’s better for their money to help them develop and get their piece of the product .... laughing
  24. shinobi
    shinobi 10 March 2018 10: 10
    +2
    But it looks like that I was mistaken. It may well be that this is a classic packet laser on CO2 modules. I got into the network asking for small-sized nuclear reactors, and she tells me on the go and gives pictures of devices on the chassis like in a movie about the laser. The problem of mobile power combat lasers always rested on a source of energy. Having put together all the messages on the topic, we can say that the issue has been resolved. Here is a line and rumors about the defrosting of the project of the late 70s atomic bomb. This is a kind of hybrid A-60 and Tu-95LAL. And this thing can fly for months, from technical service to technical service.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 10 March 2018 15: 10
      +1
      The Omega project has already shot down unmanned objects ....

      Pay attention to the picture, the detection range and tracking of the target is 18 km, further only assumptions of how far the newly presented complex detects the target and affects .... yes
      If we assume that at least 2 times further the target is detected and strikes, then there are no analogues in the world to such systems ... hi
  25. anatolypodarin
    anatolypodarin 10 March 2018 13: 05
    0
    I propose to call him a "bunny"
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 10 March 2018 15: 16
      0
      Quote: anatolypodarin
      I propose to call him a "bunny"

      Emitron - Soviet flashlight ... lol
  26. Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 10 March 2018 16: 17
    +1
    Quote: XXXIII
    Quote: Okolotochny
    For Israel Fake. They have nothing.

    Quote: zolotinka21
    Well, yes, Putin, like, was bluffing and did not know about Israel :-)) Russia +1000!

    Israel is small and not very strong, there has not yet been any application, which is in service with a big question, the project is classified .... request

    Small and not very strong - I’m embarrassed to ask you about what I thought about or something else? lol
  27. ALEXANDER ABDRAKHMANOV_2
    ALEXANDER ABDRAKHMANOV_2 10 March 2018 17: 12
    0
    A new laser based on new principles - it doesn’t even burn, but hits with electrons. Any optics will be destroyed and not only by it, and you see the engine out of order, and it may hit the satellites. Someone else doesn’t know what he is capable of. Let the enemy think that this is the main apparatus.
  28. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 11 March 2018 16: 01
    0
    It would be nice for the FSO to build a dozen or two of these - to shoot down drones of all the State Departments mongrel, filming representative facilities and just the houses of successful managers.
  29. duchy
    duchy 12 March 2018 15: 25
    +1
    Unfortunately, experts and amateurs of military equipment, in his speech, Vladimir Putin did not begin to reveal the most curious features of a promising laser complex.

    The less you know the better you sleep laughing
  30. alek-xey
    alek-xey 12 March 2018 23: 47
    0
    Is it so difficult to attach to a slewing laser ?! cooling system nearby in KUNG. There is also an OPU with laser guidance, just put a more powerful one. In the internet there are even pictures of how an OPU laser illuminates objects - there are such in the Russian Federation and abroad! And then there the body does not close some corners in elevation ?!