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On the basis of the training Yak-130 will create a combat aircraft

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Irkut Corporation is working to create a light combat aircraft on the basis of the Yak-130 training and combat aircraft, while the resulting products can go both to the Russian army and for export, said Corporation President Alexei Fedorov at the Engines-2012 exhibition in Moscow

“Work on this aircraft is carried out not only in the interests of the Russian Air Force,” said Fedorov, Interfax reports.

He noted that Irkut Corporation has experience in creating good aircraft for foreign customers and the subsequent delivery of these vehicles to the Russian Air Force as part of the state defense order.

According to Fedorov, an engine with a slightly greater burden than the one installed on the Yak-130 combat training aircraft will be required for a light combat aircraft.

“At the exhibition“ Engines-2012 ”we held negotiations with Zaporozhye engine builders on the further development of the AI-222-25 engine,” said Fedorov.

Igor Kravchenko, the designer of the state-owned enterprise ZMKB Progress named after academic Ivchenko, in turn told the agency that “it is potentially possible for a light combat aircraft based on the Yak-130 to create a modification of the AI-222-25 engine with 2800 kg weight”.

“To start work on the new version of the AI-222-25, you need to sign a technical task, estimate the amount of improvements,” said Kravchenko.

According to him, the new modification of the engine will receive the designation AI-222-28. “The creation of an AI-222-28 engine will take about two to three years,” said Kravchenko.

Earlier it was reported that the engine AI-222-28 will have a modular scheme that allows for the rapid replacement of expired or damaged modules.

This modification will be created by using a modified turbine with an advanced cooling system in the base engine. Such a turbine is developed on the basis of proven technical solutions and will allow to increase the gas temperature, providing an increase in thrust to 2800 kg.

On the compressor side, the engines AI-222-25 and AI-222-28 will be completely unified.
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  1. Dan099
    Dan099 April 23 2012 12: 36
    +4
    Someone correctly comment - why do you need to make a combat aircraft on this platform?
    1. Vadim555
      Vadim555 April 23 2012 12: 43
      +6
      Quote: Dan099
      Dan099 Today, 12:36 PM new 0 Someone correctly comment on why you need to make a combat aircraft on this platform


      They probably want to get an easy and cheap attack aircraft for local conflicts.
      1. Dan099
        Dan099 April 23 2012 12: 48
        +7
        vadim555 They probably want to get an easy and cheap attack aircraft for local conflicts.
        Su-25 for this than what is bad?
        1. Vadim555
          Vadim555 April 23 2012 12: 55
          +6
          Quote: Dan099
          Su-25 for this than what is bad?


          I guess the price and take-off weight are greater.
          request
          1. Dan099
            Dan099 April 23 2012 13: 01
            +7
            1. Not the price. The price of the Su-25 is not more than 10 million. The Yak-130 in the training configuration is 15 million.
            2. Take-off mass - yes, but for an attack aircraft this is by no means the main thing. The large mass of the Su-25 is caused by its greater armament, and the Yak will not land on the dirt field
            1. Vadim555
              Vadim555 April 23 2012 13: 21
              +2
              Quote: Dan099
              Dan099 Today, 13:01 new 1 1. Not the price. The price of the Su-25 is not more than 10 million. The Yak-130 in the training configuration is 15 million.
              2. Take-off mass - yes, but for an attack aircraft this is by no means the main thing. The large mass of the Su-25 is caused by its greater armament, and the Yak will not land on the dirt field


              In my opinion I need an inexpensive twin-engine piston with a take-off mass of 4.5-5 tons and without fantastic bells and whistles with good booking and speed up to 350km.ch.
            2. Aeneas
              Aeneas April 23 2012 15: 10
              0
              as far as I know, the Su-25 is not produced since the time of the Union. It is more correct to compare the price with the Su-39 - a promising attack aircraft.
        2. Dmitriy69
          Dmitriy69 April 23 2012 13: 12
          +6
          Quote: Dan099
          Su-25 for this is worse

          The cost of operation and minutes of flight. There are a lot of tasks where to use the SU-25, it's like chasing KAMAZ for three kilograms of potato
          1. Dan099
            Dan099 April 23 2012 13: 28
            +6
            For such tasks, Americans have long been using UAVs. They need to be emphasized.
            1. urzul
              urzul April 23 2012 13: 37
              +4
              That's what they use in Afghanistan;)))
              1. Dan099
                Dan099 April 23 2012 13: 46
                +6
                How many losses would there be if such aircraft were used in conditions of counteracting air defense at least at the MANPADS level. Relying on UAVs to solve ultra-local problems is obviously more promising, although your piston c-t is the very thing to destroy poppy plantations.
                1. urzul
                  urzul April 23 2012 14: 00
                  +1
                  Why would it be, planes have been flying for more than a year, it is economically justified. Compared to UAVs, it’s much cheaper, but it performs the same tasks.
              2. PSih2097
                PSih2097 April 23 2012 20: 04
                0
                But what is used in Colombia


                TECH SPECS

                Crew: 1 (pilot)
                Length: 9,83 m
                Wingspan: 11,27 m
                Height: 4,16 m
                Wing area: 21,83 m
                Wing Extension Ratio: 5,86
                Empty weight: 3466 kg
                Normal takeoff weight: 4585 kg
                Maximum takeoff weight: 5493 kg
                Fuel tank capacity: l 1000
                Powerplant: 1 12-cylinder V-shaped liquid cooling Packard V-1650-7
                Engine power: 1 1450 l. with. (1 1066 kW (take-off))
                Propeller: Four-blade Hamilton Std.
                Screw Diameter: 3,4 M

                Front drag coefficient at zero lift: 0,0163
                Equivalent resistance area: 0,35 m

                Flight characteristics

                Maximum speed:
                at the ground: 570 km / h
                at height: 703 at 7600 m
                Cruising speed: 580 km / h
                Dumping speed: 160 km / h
                Practical range: 1520 km (at 550 m)
                Ferry range: 3700 km (with PTB)
                Ceiling: 12 741 m
                Rate of climb: m / s 17,7
                Wing load: 212 kg / m
                Thrust ratio: 238 W / kg
                Aerodynamic quality: 14,6

                weaponry

                Shooting and cannon: 6 12,7 mm M2 machine guns in the wing, close to the fuselage of 400 pat., The rest of 270 pat.
                Unguided rockets:
                6 M8 missiles in M10 or M14 or M15 tubular rails
                10 127 mm HVAR missiles (together with PTB - 6 missiles)
                Bombs: 2 to 454 kg under the wing
                Outboard fuel tanks: 2 L or 284 L under wing
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 April 23 2012 20: 15
            0
            The cost of operation and minutes of flight.

            Interestingly, this is when drove rooks to nothing? do not blame the army for moronity ...
        3. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 23 2012 15: 56
          -4
          Apparently, the assembly technology of the SU - 25 is lost, most likely the factories that manufactured the components for it are no longer alive, that’s how they resemble a combat plane from a training aircraft. In general, the manufacturer is trying to survive on old Soviet groundwork. Yes, and the development is likely to go for the money of foreign customers, and our bureaucrats cheerfully report success. Laugh, but in my city, edrosa took credit for the construction of a SPAR logistics center and a store, so they wrote in leaflets laughing
      2. Tram_ham
        Tram_ham April 23 2012 16: 14
        -11
        Very nice car. Very useful to Bashar al-Assad and Ahmadinejad
        Preparing to shoot at unarmed banderlog with white ribbons. There are no other targets for this "attack aircraft" and cannot be
        1. Andrey_K
          Andrey_K April 23 2012 16: 23
          +4
          Any state is obliged to protect its citizens from bandits who have taken up arms.
          Anyone who decides to do politics with weapons in their hands must be immediately and ruthlessly destroyed, otherwise there will never be peace in the country.
          Any dictator takes precedence over any armed revolutionary (the second, by default, is always a greater villain).
          (And by the way, Ahmadinejad is the lawfully elected president and there is nothing to be wrong with him, and Assad is a dictator only for bandits and terrorists).
    2. older
      older April 23 2012 12: 45
      +4
      Large speed and small size will allow you to use it as a reconnaissance or attack aircraft of short range ...
      1. old rocket man
        old rocket man April 23 2012 14: 46
        +4
        older,
        There is one more important detail - pilot training, for the Yak-130 it’s possible to prepare a pilot much faster and cheaper than for the same Su-25, and you can’t compare the cost of operation
    3. Andrey_K
      Andrey_K April 23 2012 13: 15
      +8
      Irkut is an independent company.
      Why do not they compete for the market for combat aircraft with other players?
      They want to compete - and rightly so.
    4. urzul
      urzul April 23 2012 13: 27
      +6
      They will go well for export, not all countries can afford to buy and maintain heavy aircraft, but here is an economical option.
      America’s same experience has shown that it’s cheaper to fly rebels of this type.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh April 23 2012 13: 50
        +3
        I misunderstood something, but it wasn’t the 130th that was sent to Syria? Assad fight on them, and not ride girls, he desperately needs them. Yes, and Chavez asked the same thing.
        1. max73
          max73 April 23 2012 17: 47
          +2
          Dear, duck still did not send anything to Syria ......
          1. Sergh
            Sergh April 23 2012 19: 29
            0
            max73, mind you, this is from 24.01.12
            The United States will ask Russia to comment on media reports about allegedly upcoming deliveries of Yak-130 aircraft to Syria, said State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland.

            Some media reported on Monday that Moscow and Damascus signed a new contract for the supply of 36 Yak-130 combat training aircraft. It is expected that the implementation of this agreement will begin immediately after Syria transfers the advance payment.

            Completely:
            http://www.infox.ru/authority/defence/2012/01/24/SSHA_poprosyat_RF_pr.phtml
    5. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus April 23 2012 15: 21
      +12
      Try to answer your question: For example, Syria - our ally has purchased 36 Yak130 aircraft, formally they are training aircraft, therefore they do not fall under all sorts of embargoes and do not cause "howls" from the "partners". - everything is fair. But when the deal is made, it suddenly turns out that from these training aircraft, it is possible to make quite combat-ready light aircraft. This is where the dog is buried ... Maral is like this: buy our training aircraft, and we will help you with problems, we will hang them there, then we will add, maybe according to performance characteristics it will not be a 4 ++ aircraft (although it was created just for training pilots of 5th generation aircraft) but it is very possible to hang the right rocket on it, we get an excellent value for money and diplomacy (the time is not easy now, you see for yourself) And the newest air-to-air rocket is purple from under which wing to launch, be it T50 or Yak130, the latter will be adapted again to the latest weapons systems, otherwise how else to train the pilot, and for that was created?
      Honestly, I was waiting for this news in order to confirm my guesses))))
      1. Tram_ham
        Tram_ham April 23 2012 16: 16
        -18
        That's right, a great machine for unarmed and civil war shooting

        Very bad news, for you, gentlemen, Russians
        1. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus April 23 2012 16: 53
          +5
          Tram, are you on air again? If you are so worried about free human rights, take slippers and march to Syria to help rebels overthrow the tyrant
          1. lewerlin53rus
            lewerlin53rus April 23 2012 18: 40
            +1
            And the tram seems to be a masochist. And she dreams of being moved along the empty head and a loud ringing. That the liberals would raise a howl under that ringing. It’s in vain trying, It’s just ... nobody needs anyone to pay attention to it. Well, if at all not in patience, I would go to America, the local cops with demonstrators, unlike ours, will not fumble, instantly they will pull us with a truncheon along the ridge
      2. VAF
        VAF April 23 2012 18: 48
        +1
        Quote: Bashkaus
        in order to confirm my guesses)


        Just done! ++++++! good
    6. Neighbor
      Neighbor April 23 2012 16: 15
      0
      Quote: Dan099
      Why do you need to make a combat aircraft on this platform?

      Why not? Vitality +
      Quote: older
      Great speed and small size

      wink drinks
      Isn’t he handsome? AND!? And how fucking - albeit small - so Little - will not seem! belay
      drinks
    7. VAF
      VAF April 23 2012 18: 34
      +5
      Quote: Dan099
      Why do you need to make a combat aircraft on this platform?


      Let me try it? wink

      The fact that the creation of the Yak-130 as an aircraft UBS, no need to explain?

      But there are many similar offers on the world market, so there is an opportunity to "fly by" by!

      In this regard, it was very competently decided to make a BS, because Firstly, two tasks and training are solved at once and immediately to the combat vehicle!

      Secondly, by and large, apart from Russia, the USA, China, India, "large" attack aircraft are not very important. Maybe five more countries will be found, but for the rest of the countries the Yak-130 with high-precision weapons will be just right. !!!

      Foreign customers will be very pleased with this alignment, as
      their main opponent is rebels, drug lords or poorly equipped troops of a neighboring state.

      And it’s not at all unprofitable to economically maintain the Yak-130! laughing

      Only joys, in a word.! fellow

      You can then sell such a demanded aircraft "in batches". good

      I do not like amers, but I note that the success of the F-16, by the way, the 4500th instance was built not so long ago !!!, is largely due to the advantageous combination of price + the ability to solve tasks that are urgent for the customer! angry

      Well, if you carefully read the article again, then everything is "written in black and white" -
      QUOTE "...... The Irkut Corporation is working on the creation of a light combat aircraft on the basis of the Yak-130 combat training aircraft, while the resulting products can go both to the Russian army and for export," said the president of the corporation, Alexey Fedorov at the "Engines-2012" exhibition in Moscow.

      “Work on this aircraft is carried out not only in the interests of the Russian Air Force,” said Fedorov, Interfax reports.

      He noted that Irkut Corporation has experience in creating good aircraft for foreign customers and the subsequent delivery of these vehicles to the Russian Air Force as part of the state defense order.

      And the next phrase just always touches me is at the expense of the subsequent delivery to our Air Force !!!

      I won’t give you the numbers. You know how many of the total number of manufactured equipment, both airplanes and helicopters, were exported and how many are used for us? !!! am

      Even small Vietnam already has 18 Su-30MK2, and we? recourse

      I already posted this news in an article on transportation and Amerovsky tender for Ruslans!

      Well, work on the Yak-130 in terms of teaching to shoot well has been going on for a long time and the results are very good !!! good

      I hope everything is intelligible and did not "upset" anyone ??? drinks

      In the photo: Yak-130 (tail number "04 white", serial number 00-04) with four KAB. Akhtubinsk, April 2012
      1. postman
        postman April 23 2012 19: 34
        +2
        Quote: veteran.air force

        veteran.air force

        You can add that with the UPK-23-250 and R-73, R-77, it can also perfectly hunt for UAVs and destroy helicopters.
        as Aermacchi M-346 (L'Alenia Aermacchi warmed us up)
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm April 23 2012 19: 45
        +1
        Well, if you carefully read the article again, then everything is "written in black and white" -
        QUOTE "...... The Irkut Corporation is working on the creation of a light combat aircraft on the basis of the Yak-130 combat training aircraft, while the resulting products can go both to the Russian army and for export," said the president of the corporation, Alexey Fedorov at the "Engines-2012" exhibition in Moscow.

        I dare to translate, well, people are asking to make such an airplane.
        On the other hand, the Irkut corporation has grown stronger, why not start developing the concept of its aircraft.
  2. older
    older April 23 2012 12: 38
    +5
    Good news ... We have somehow forgotten light aircraft lately .... But there are a lot of boring tasks for him ...
  3. Eugene
    Eugene April 23 2012 12: 49
    +6
    I think it will be a light strike aircraft for export. Well, we ourselves will take into service a bit for decency.
    But can it be possible to do something interesting deck?
    1. Mr. Truth
      Mr. Truth April 23 2012 12: 57
      +1
      The deck will be the Su-33 and MiG-29K nothing more in the future Drying will be changed to a T-50 regiment.
    2. domokl
      domokl April 23 2012 13: 10
      -1
      Perhaps you are right ... Of course, it can be used as a light attack aircraft, but the game is not worth the candle ... Export to third countries or the Caucasus ..
    3. Genry
      Genry April 23 2012 16: 50
      +2
      There will be a very convenient light attack aircraft, for close basing to the front line. Very autonomous and unpretentious. Here, the pilot can take off from the unpaved strip without assistance (no trap, no starter needed). Easy to hide and less visible and vulnerable on the ground. Fuel consumption is small, plus a short approach distance makes the departure cost very low. Very high efficiency.
    4. VAF
      VAF April 23 2012 23: 44
      0
      Quote: Eugene
      But can it be possible to do something interesting deck?


      The idea is interesting, but .... will not work! The range is too small, and if you hang a couple of PTBs, then the possibility of suspending the required number of weapons is reduced, and they are already not very rich!
      But for the thought, +!
  4. Manager
    Manager April 23 2012 12: 51
    0
    What for ?????????? what
    If I’m not mistaken, can rockets be hung on him anyway?
    1. VAF
      VAF April 23 2012 18: 55
      +2
      Quote: Manager
      then you can hang rockets on it


      You can, "air-to-air" R-73-e! +!
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 April 23 2012 20: 09
        0
        You can, "air-to-air" R-73-e! +!

        for comparison ...
        Su-39:


        Su-25

  5. Mr. Truth
    Mr. Truth April 23 2012 12: 56
    +1
    This is a big mistake, if you book it as a Su-25 it will not fly away. Armor will devour its entire load. The best option is to create a training and unmanned version based on the Su-25.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 23 2012 13: 04
      0
      Mr. Truth,
      Well, for this, they increase engine thrust up to 2800kg!
      1. Mr. Truth
        Mr. Truth April 23 2012 16: 33
        0
        The glider is not designed for this.
  6. Tiberium
    Tiberium April 23 2012 12: 57
    -1
    Create it will be created, and then released for export. And the Ministry of Defense will buy some sort of NATO light attack aircraft. In general, as always.
  7. apro
    apro April 23 2012 13: 18
    +2
    A wise solution is a low-budget fighter for conflicts of low intensity. For not very rich countries. And for us, a single-engine light fighter is still needed.
  8. Nechai
    Nechai April 23 2012 14: 19
    +2
    Quote: Dan099
    - why do you need to make a combat aircraft on this platform

    Such an opportunity was originally laid in its design. The instructor takes at least that. At least an additional tank, at least the necessary equipment. And what an opportunity is opening up for the resumption of training for the pilot’s mobility reserve for at least this car. The presence in the sports clubs, ROSTO of accounting training machines will help maintain the required level of training for a significant number of pilots.
  9. crossbow
    crossbow April 23 2012 15: 11
    +2
    We finally realized that China has long been exporting low-budget versions of both aircraft and other equipment (see the article right here on the site for Chinese tanks) to poor third-world countries, killing several birds with one stone - here you’ll have foreign exchange earnings and jobs, and loading its aircraft production, and broadcasting the influence of the country, importers, etc., etc.
  10. darkman70
    darkman70 April 23 2012 15: 14
    +2
    Beautiful airplane.
  11. viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus April 23 2012 15: 51
    +2
    In any case, this is good, the issue of UAV efficiency in the context of counteraction is controversial and such an aircraft will not be superfluous ... and I think many people underestimate its possible effectiveness ...
  12. serezha.fedotoff2013
    serezha.fedotoff2013 April 23 2012 17: 45
    +1
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Apparently, the assembly technology of the SU - 25 is lost, most likely the factories that manufactured the components for it are no longer alive, that’s how they resemble a combat plane from a training aircraft.

    In fact, the resumption of production of the Su-25 in Ulan-Uda is now being actively developed, and the production technology of the Su-25 is not so high as to lose it, because an attack aircraft is an inexpensive relatively simple aircraft (the so-called American deck, attack aircraft, A -3, A-5, A-6 are not such in fact - these are deck bombers with powerful avionics and no armor protection)
  13. Odinplys
    Odinplys April 23 2012 18: 22
    -1
    I think export will go to the URA ... and not only ...
    Iran is building high-speed small boats ... to combat the non-joking American carriers of aircraft ... and everyone recognizes their effectiveness in a narrow strait ...
  14. Dust
    Dust April 23 2012 18: 38
    -1
    The Chinese have long dealt with this task - they have already spoken about this on the site!
    So they will intercept orders on the foreign market, how to give drinks - they already have the plane flying in an enhanced form ...
  15. PSih2097
    PSih2097 April 23 2012 18: 53
    0
    my comment look here -
    http://warfiles.ru/6075-na-baze-uchebnogo-yak-130-sozdadut-boevoy-samolet.html#c
    how

    for the lazy
    why the heck you need a light attack aircraft, when there is a Su-25 and Su-39 - full-fledged attack aircraft ... The Yak-130 is a flying school desk, even if it remains.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS April 23 2012 18: 53
    +1
    Such an aircraft, yes, with an electronic warhead suspended block could well fit and do not need to redo much!
    And the engine power is increased in order to pull the combat load!
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 23 2012 20: 12
      0
      Such an aircraft, yes, with an electronic warhead suspended block could well fit and do not need to redo much!

      Speed ​​is not enough, and fly dryers and twinks at the speed of a yak, well, does not roll ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 23 2012 20: 59
        +2
        Quote: PSih2097
        Speed ​​is not enough, and fly dryers and twinks at the speed of a yak, well, does not roll ...

        Yak-130 equipped with RES means does not require the pursuit of Sukhimi and MIGs it has a different task!
        Reconnaissance intelligence is divided into radio engineering and radio intelligence. It is divided into preliminary and executive and is carried out by specially equipped manned and unmanned aircraft. Preliminary radio-technical reconnaissance is carried out in order to determine the coordinates of the enemy’s RES, their characteristics and condition, control methods and guidance of air defense systems, and applied anti-jamming measures.

        The type of RES is established by the nature of the intercepted signal (operating frequency, repetition rate and pulse duration, type of scanning and overview of the space). In accordance with the identified electronic environment, the inclusion boundaries or areas of application and operating modes of the electronic warfare systems for the flight stages are determined, certain tasks are assigned to the crews of fire destruction aircraft of enemy ground radars.

        According to the foreign press, in the interests of a more precise organization of electronic warfare, preliminary and reconnaissance results are used to draw up graphic and descriptive models of the enemy’s air defense system for each flight route of the strike groups or for the battlefield as a whole.
        The graphic model displays the positions of: radar posts (RLP) and control points (PU), from which fighter-interceptors can be guided; boundaries of detection zones and estimated boundaries of interception; the position of the air defense systems of the middle and large farthest bones and the boundaries of their affected areas; sections of flight routes where short-range anti-aircraft missile systems or anti-aircraft artillery shelling is expected.
  17. Airparen109
    Airparen109 April 23 2012 18: 54
    +1
    And I like the idea. It is only necessary to make the body armored at least from small arms with a caliber of 12,7 mm. The plane is brisk, maneuverable. It will be good.
    Equip a 23mm cannon, NARs, light bombs, helicopter ATGMs, and self-defense air-to-air missiles will be an effective combat unit.
    By the way, I liked the former competitor of the Yak-130 - combat training MiG-UT, but still for the Yak-130 a great advantage.
    But the MiG team offered an assault version of their training MiG - MiG-AT, so I liked it, reminds L-39 /
    http://www.luxavia.ru/?page=5
  18. max73
    max73 April 23 2012 19: 04
    +2
    normal plane - bomb-assault load takes place - once! WFP - less than many others - two! in Russia (well, "them") there are a lot of such airfields - why not?
  19. viruskvartirus
    viruskvartirus April 23 2012 19: 55
    0
    :) Do such aircraft have a future? http://vimeo.com/40477489 oh why not ours invented ... or maybe there are analogues? (do not take wingsuit) ...
  20. postman
    postman April 23 2012 20: 32
    +1
    Quote: viruskvartirus
    oh why not ours invented

    Priority (in action) at Wendell Moore
    Small Rocket Lift Device - SRLD from 1953.

    1924 A.F. Andreev (USSR) patent (draft) rocket pack.

    in the USSR, according to the lunar program, there were developments of a rocket pack on the basis of UPMK
  21. suharev-52
    suharev-52 April 23 2012 20: 41
    +3
    Cars are different - important.
    Different cars - needed.
    Already there is SU, MIG, let it be YAK, especially in cooperation with the AM brothers (only men, no offense for the s) .. The most important thing is that the design idea does not stand still. And there life will show: Who is right and who is more right. Sincerely.
  22. warrior
    warrior April 23 2012 23: 35
    +2
    What the Russian Air Force still expects is incomprehensible. The British in the 70s came up with the Hawker Siddeley Hawk / T-45 Goshawk. Finland, by the way, also operates with Hawkies, though not new but used Swiss.
  23. 443190
    443190 April 28 2012 23: 05
    0
    Is it something like Alphadget ???