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Let them pay! Poland intends to "put on the money" of all its neighbors

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The head of the Polish Seym Commission on Reparations (there is such) Arkadiusz Mulyarchik announced his intention to recover from Germany $ 850 billion of reparations for the damage caused to the country by the Wehrmacht forces during World War II.


Let them pay! Poland intends to "put on the money" of all its neighbors

Ban Muliarczyk stressed that this figure was not taken from the ceiling, that all claims would be supported by the specific data of the evaluation report that the commission would submit in the current year. And which is being prepared on the basis of a similar report compiled since the Second World War.

The politician added that we are talking about "huge but reasonable amounts" that will compensate for the damage from the destruction of Polish cities and villages, the economic and industrial infrastructure, as well as "the lost demographic potential."

At the same time, Mularchik made it clear that Germany has a list of those whom Warsaw intends to "shake" on the subject of "historical debts ". Russia is also next in line. However, the head of the parliamentary commission believes that it is "more realistic" to receive compensation from Germany than from Russia, where, as the Polish politician pointed out, Russia "does not respect international law." That is, it is important for the Poles to create a precedent with the "law-abiding" FRG, which they intend to use against other countries in the future. Apart from Germany and Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania and Belarus may appear on the list of potential "debtors" of Poland. Warsaw may present territorial claims to them.

The idea of ​​receiving new reparations from Germany (Poland received them from Berlin to 1953, when it decided to refuse to receive further payments) was voiced by the Polish Prime Minister Beata Szydlo last September. On the basis of what the mentioned commission was created.

Berlin completely rejects Polish claims. This is also because the claims were no longer in force at the time of the conclusion of the Final Settlement Agreement for Germany (1990 + 2) in 4, “because Poland did not make reparation claims by tacit refusal during the preparation of this agreement ". It was then agreed that this contract "to this day blocks any claims for reparations." In addition, according to the German side, the statute of limitations has expired for Polish claims, according to Berlin.

However, this is not the whole argument, which can be set in motion by Germany. After all, if Poland really intends to insist on the restoration of historical truth and justice, it can easily open a Pandora's box, which can threaten it with tremendous troubles.

The fact is that contrary to the assurances of Polish propagandists from history, their country in reality cannot be imagined as an “innocent victim torn by two predators”. The guilt of the then Polish leadership at the beginning of World War II, in fact, is very great, and the crimes committed by the Polish authorities and militants against national minorities, if they differ from the crimes of the Nazis, are only sophistication, even more cruelty, and a clearer purpose.
Let's start with the beginning of the war. Drang nah Osten was planned by Hitler long before 41, he did not hide his intentions to attack the USSR even before he came to power. It is safe to assume that the world oligarchy and contributed to the coming to power of the National Socialists, because she saw them as a cudgel against our country.

The attack on Poland was not part of Hitler’s plans. “... When we talk about the conquest of new lands in Europe, we, of course, can mean first of all only Russia and those marginal states that are subordinate to it,” wrote the Führer, who considered the countries that emerged in Eastern Europe, “ limitrofy ", as potential allies in the war with" Bolshevik Russia ".

And Warsaw fully justified the hopes of the Nazis. In 1934, the German and Polish fascists signed a non-aggression pact, a secret protocol to which obliged Poland to pursue a permanent policy of effective cooperation with Germany.
The Polish government took the obligation to ensure the free passage of German troops on its territory in the event that these troops are designed to repel "provocation from the east or northeast." That is, the Poles were supposed to help the Nazis carry out aggression against the USSR and Lithuania.

The price for complicity in the German aggression was to be "the establishment of a new eastern border of Poland" at the expense of some of the Belarusian, Ukrainian and Lithuanian lands, which Berlin promised to guarantee "by all means."

But this idyll was broken by the fact that Hitler's appetites were not exhausted by the striving to the east.

No less urgent, and, most importantly, a higher priority, the task for him was to recreate the empire of Charlemagne, which was supposed to unite most of the countries of Western and Central Europe. That, in addition to the Fuhrer’s romance and mystical aspirations, it was quite logical - to unite the technical and military potential of Europe before the start of a fight with the USSR
What Berlin began to do by annexing Austria and the Czech Republic. However, the scenario of the unification of the continent under the hand of the Fuhrer did not suit London and Paris. They needed not to strengthen Germany, but to incite it against the USSR.

To get Hitler to move to the East, and not to the West, the Anglo-Saxons tried to turn Poland into a red rag for the German bull, being sure that an attack on this country would inevitably end in a war with the USSR.
All the efforts of London and Paris, and their agents of influence in Warsaw, were aimed at pushing the Poles into a tough confrontation with the Third Reich. In which they contributed a lot to Polish arrogance, chauvinism and the same Nazi ideology that dominated the Polish state.

Emerged after the First World War, Poland received in its structure the German territories inhabited by ethnic Germans. Under the Polish government, they had a hard time living - German schools and Protestant churches were closed, the burghers' shops and workshops were “squeezed out”, German language was forced out of public space.

But what followed at the end of 1930's clearly falls under the definition of “genocide”. In the spring of 1939, a wave of pogroms swept through Silesia and West Prussia, Protestant churches were destroyed, German schools and public buildings, many houses of Germans were burned, many people (according to some data, up to eight thousand) were killed.

By the middle of 1939 from Posen-West Prussia and Upper Silesia, 1,4 of millions of Polish Germans fled to Germany.
Berlin could not ignore the genocide of tribesmen and endless provocations in the Danzig corridor. Poland ignored numerous notes and proposals from Germany. The Nazi government even considered the possibility of “symmetrical measures” in relation to the German Poles, who, however, were considered meaningless. In the end, the leadership of the Reich recognized that attempts to exert diplomatic pressure on Warsaw were ineffective, and the only alternative to the destruction or deportation of the German minority and the blockade of Danzig and East Prussia was war. Moreover, since July 1939, the Poles began border provocations, shelling German settlements. Victims appeared among the citizens of Germany.

From the immediate response of Hitler kept the negotiations of the USSR, Britain and France to create an anti-Nazi bloc. After their breakdown, the Anglo-French delegation concluded the "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact", which unleashed Hitler's hands in actions against Poland and gave Moscow the necessary postponement of the inevitable war.

In addition to the border incidents already mentioned, the Poles in August 1939 of the year shot down two Lufthansa civil aircraft flying to Danzig. And on August 30 in Krakow, German Consul August Schillinger was shot dead. On August 27 the mobilization of the Polish army was completed; 25 infantry divisions advanced to the border with Germany; plus 20 were on the nearest approaches.

All this, of course, in no way justifies the Nazis, who were preparing both aggression against our country and the seizure of the countries of Western Europe. But the provocations of Warsaw made significant adjustments to Hitler’s plans, although not the ones that were counted on in London and Paris.

But the crimes of the authorities of pre-war Poland against their citizens of German nationality fade in comparison with what happened in this country since 1944.

As is well known, Poland, which made so much effort to unleash a world war, was among the winning countries, and received by Stalin's grace new German territories - in East Prussia, Silesia, Pomerania and East Brandenburg.
The new Polish leadership has embarked on an all-out ethnic cleansing of newly acquired lands, whose population was to be deported and / or destroyed.

This was not an “exaggeration on the ground” - the genocide of the indigenous civilians of the new “Polish” territories was planned by the authorities of the country. The first working version of the deportation of the Germans was submitted by the government of Beruta already in November 1944.

By the end of the war, over 4 million Germans lived on the territory of this country. They were mainly concentrated in the German territories transferred to Poland in 1945: in Silesia (1,6 million people), Pomerania (1,8 million) and in Eastern Brandenburg (600 thousand), as well as in the historical areas of German compact residence in Poland ( about 400 thousand people).

2 May 1945, the Prime Minister of the Provisional Government of Poland, Boleslav Beruta signed a decree according to which all the “abandoned” property of ethnic Germans automatically passed into the hands of the Polish state.

In the attitude of those who did not abandon the property, measures taken from the practice of the Third Reich were taken. The Polish authorities demanded that the Germans who remained on the ground of their fathers should wear distinctive marks on their clothes, most often a white bandage on their sleeves, sometimes with a swastika. But that was not all.

Today, the Polish authorities have criminalized the use of the phrase "Polish concentration camps", claiming that they contain a hint of complicity of the Poles in the crimes of the Nazis.

However, the Poles committed no less crimes without the participation of the Nazis. From the summer of 1945, Polish police began to drive the Germans who did not manage to escape the Germans to concentration camps. And only adults - children were sent to shelters, or to Polish families, where they were to be turned into Poles.

Adults were involved in hard labor. Only during the winter of 1945 \ 46, 50 percent of prisoners died - from hunger, disease, beatings and bullying of guards. That is precisely the Polish concentration camps with good reason can be called death camps.

Despite the fact that according to the decision of the Nürnberg Tribunal, deportation was recognized as a crime against humanity and a form of genocide, a decree was signed on 13 September 1946, declaring the “separation of Germans from the Polish people”, which expels the surviving Germans outside the country. However, Warsaw was not in a hurry to carry out this decision - since the ruthless exploitation of German prisoners brought considerable benefits. At the same time, no steps were taken to alleviate their situation, or at least to reduce the death rate of prisoners. In the camps continued violence against German prisoners.

Thus, in the Potulice camp between half a year and a half of prisoners who survived the terrible winter 1947-1949 of the year, died between 1945 and 46.

Exploitation of the interned German population was actively carried out until the autumn of 1946, when the Polish government decided to begin the deportation of survivors.

According to the Union of expelled Germans, the German population lost about 3 million during the expulsion from Poland.
You can certainly say that the Poles, to some extent, justify the atrocities and brutality of the Nazi occupation. But, as we see, the genocide of the Germans was the state policy of Poland, free from any emotions.

We also add that the Nazis, capturing Poland, did not set themselves the task of destroying the Polish population. There was not even a deportation of those lands that the Germans considered their own - from Silesia, or Pomerania. That is, the crimes of the Polish authorities are superior in their inhumanity and cruelty to those committed by the Nazis.

But, as we see, no desire to rethink the dark pages of its own history in Poland does not show up. On the contrary, a law has been passed by which everyone who tries to do this will be thrown behind bars.

For seventy years, not only Moscow, but also Berlin, tried not to wake up this topic, so as not to stir up the past and not to incite the old wounds. Offering, forgetting old grievances, building a common future.

However, as we see, this approach gave rise to a sense of impunity in Warsaw, and aroused the beyond arrogance and greed. Same as in 1939 year.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 7 March 2018 06: 28
    +10
    can pass Poland again ...? You, like Mazut, are not against a "foreign tour"? wink
    1. Vend
      Vend 7 March 2018 09: 08
      +16
      Apparently, Poland’s financial situation was seriously shaken. Friendship with the United States is expensive.
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 7 March 2018 09: 17
        +8
        Quote: Wend
        Apparently, Poland’s financial situation was seriously shaken. Friendship with the United States is expensive.

        everything goes according to plan - the Germans became very independent, and now, with the help of Fashington, the Poles began to reduce the German miracle
        1. gurzuf
          gurzuf 9 March 2018 16: 00
          +1
          From a dead donkey, the ears of Pshek will receive not reparations.
          https://youtu.be/vAI3lRleyZ4
        2. Huumi
          Huumi 10 March 2018 10: 12
          +5
          So already there was a time — if there will be a second — and for example, this situation will force me to take up arms after me not a single living Pole will remain. Their arsenal is endless ... I for example did not forget what they did to our prisoners in 20 years-Poland attacked us in 18, not we on them
      2. avt
        avt 7 March 2018 11: 28
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        Apparently, Poland’s financial situation was seriously shaken.

        wassat WAS JOB! ?? bully Yes, there
        Well that's all, now you can cry, it's time to pay for everything on bills
        bully
        But today, citizens, you have a terrible mistake.
        And it’s not even that we caught you.
        But today, fasting day?
        No, today is an ordinary, modest day.
        Yes, here is the number you blurted out the wrong one.
        You took the thing from the wife of the English envoy, and according to international agreements for the mink coat, worth 100 thousand only, you have to pay the administration of the Bolshoi Theater.
        Government agency.
        And the main lender when joining the EU, when they weighed a credit line of 200 yards with a hook euro, are ... SAUSAGUES. bully Here is the hyena of Europe and performs in the spirit of
        Do you know, Rukhnikov, what am I talking about?
        Sewing Decree 7-8, Chief?
        I sew?
        What do I have to do with it?
        If you looked at yourself from the side, Ruchnikov, you would have noticed that the decree of August 7, which you call 7-8, is imprinted on your forehead.
        Like how to get rid of troubles? And I’ll go to the Hans for lunch! bully
        1. Ace Tambourine
          Ace Tambourine 8 March 2018 19: 51
          0
          classic ... oh ... not even a word
      3. sgazeev
        sgazeev 7 March 2018 18: 11
        +5
        Quote: Wend
        Apparently, Poland’s financial situation was seriously shaken. Friendship with the United States is expensive.

        Scavengers, the people are silent, it means they like it. It’s not for nothing that the Jews spread rot after the Germans. The menagerie of hyenas and jackals.
        1. zenion
          zenion 7 March 2018 21: 48
          +3
          That's how many Germans from Jews grabbed - half Polish for the undoubted help in this.
      4. AID.S
        AID.S 9 March 2018 11: 58
        0
        Quote: Wend
        Apparently, Poland’s financial situation was seriously shaken.

        Not yet, in two years it will be possible to say more precisely.
    2. forester
      forester 7 March 2018 09: 32
      +7
      Someone clever said - "Poland has eyes larger than its stomach" - it is thought that indigestion will happen again and it will cease to exist as a separate state again.
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 8 March 2018 04: 10
        +1
        Entirely, TOTALLY let the Germans take it away, we have such "happiness" again - did not give up No.
    3. SK70
      SK70 7 March 2018 10: 16
      +2
      Where did such hellish headlines come from?
      Will hair dryer tests be published soon?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 7 March 2018 11: 04
      +5
      German handouts end, Polish outrage begins. It’s like taking a baby from the breast. You won’t be screaming.winked
      1. birs
        birs 7 March 2018 15: 31
        +1
        Vanguay new sanctions against Poland by Brussels at the initiative of Germany
    5. Fitter65
      Fitter65 7 March 2018 14: 37
      +6
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      can pass Poland again ...? You, like Mazut, are not against a "foreign tour"?

      Well, I’ve been there for 5 years as part of the Special Forces Command in 347OBBS at the 239th Fighter Aviation Baranovichi Red Banner Division, which had its headquarters in the town of Klyuchevo, a suburb of Stargard-Shetsinsky ... The Poles were very adequate people, There was even a grandfather who was under Lenin He lived and fought, we warped with his grandson as guests constantly came Belomor took him to his hotel, He always said you Russians saved us, and your soldiers smoked shag and we were given ordinary cigarettes to our Poles as normal officers. Normal, adequate people ...
      True, even then we said -Pole is not a nation, this is a profession ...
    6. hedgehog in the fog
      hedgehog in the fog 10 March 2018 17: 15
      0
      Andrei Yurevich, are you personally on tour, with a machine gun in your hands, will you participate or will you look from the couch for news and support with angry comments?
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 7 March 2018 06: 29
    +9
    It would be necessary to prepare in advance for the Poles an account for the lands given to Poland by STALIN following the results of the Second World War ... and for the murders of thousands of Red Army soldiers in Polish concentration camps.
    Yes, for economic assistance provided POLAND USSR ...
    the bill will turn out tidy with inflation ... hold on to the Poles for their pants so they don't fall.
    1. krops777
      krops777 7 March 2018 08: 20
      +4
      It would be necessary to prepare in advance for the Poles an account for the lands given to Poland by STALIN following the results of the Second World War ... and for the murders of thousands of Red Army soldiers in Polish concentration camps.


      And to shake for the occupation of Russia during the period of the Polish-Lithuanian yoke, it lasted from 300 to 600 years, the amount, taking into account the interest, is simply cosmic. bully
      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 7 March 2018 09: 27
        +4
        Do not forget to add to the account of the rats and the raven eaten by the gentry in the Moscow Kremlin. Not a delicacy, but still.
        1. Pre-cat
          Pre-cat 7 March 2018 20: 25
          +2
          Precisely, precisely, for actively undermining the ecological balance in Russia laughing
        2. lesnik1978
          lesnik1978 8 March 2018 17: 55
          0
          After all, they ate people (both their own and Russians), black humor turns out.
  3. kos2cool4u
    kos2cool4u 7 March 2018 06: 32
    +5
    Well, what did you want ??? ... Dill grabbed all of these natsidy primarily from the neighbors, changing their way !!
  4. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 March 2018 06: 45
    +14
    Good; Now it’s possible for Russia not to bother with calculations, but to take the amount of Poland’s lawsuit against Germany and bill the Poles for the restoration of Poland by the Soviet Union! It is time to recall the captive Red Army men tortured by the pilots, and I also spent on the restoration of Poland in the post-war borders of the USSR!
  5. Vard
    Vard 7 March 2018 06: 56
    +2
    There is no limit to the insolence of the clandestine lords ... let Germany butts ... they will set a precedent ... we will ... Poland ... We’ll bring the same suit ...
  6. inkass_98
    inkass_98 7 March 2018 07: 00
    +12
    It is much more realistic for the Poles to get common lyuli than reparations. And it will be quite in the spirit of Polish history, they were put up with cancer repeatedly and by prior agreement.
    I agree that a response may not follow from Russia in the near future due to ignoring stupid claims, but the Germans will hit right away and hurt more: investments in Poland may stop in a year or two, some quotas will be cut, car production will be unprofitable or environmentally friendly harmful, legislation will not at all comply with EU standards, etc. In this case, there can be a lot of methods "against Kostya Saprykin".
    1. forester
      forester 7 March 2018 09: 39
      +1
      If you have not seen the boxing match of the Pole Golota against Mike Tyson then look - in this fight the whole essence of Poland!
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 7 March 2018 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: inkass_98
      It is much more realistic for the Poles to get common lyuli than reparations. And it will be quite in the spirit of Polish history, they were put up with cancer repeatedly and by prior agreement.

      How many sections of Poland were there in history, three? With this approach, they can run into the fourth. Moreover, the Germans would rather be the initiator, and there the Czechs will remember Teshinskaya, if I am not mistaken, the region, Ukrainians will catch up with the company. In short it can be fun.
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 7 March 2018 13: 19
        +1
        The fourth section was just between the USSR and Germany. But here, rather, each returned his own, we didn’t take a stranger, although formally we liquidated Poland as a class. So the next in line is the fifth series.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 7 March 2018 18: 44
          +3
          Quote: inkass_98
          The fourth section was just between the USSR and Germany. But here, rather, each returned his own, we didn’t take someone else’s, although formally we liquidated Poland as a class.

          Therefore, it is not necessary to rank the USSR in the fourth division of Poland.
  7. mavrus
    mavrus 7 March 2018 07: 07
    +4
    I would like to add that in pre-war Poland the Poles themselves were about 60%, and today Poland is the most mono-ethnic state, if not in the world, then in Europe for sure ... Well, Belarusians and Ukrainians were attached, Western Belarus and Eastern Lesser Poland Stalin took compensating Legnica, Danzig, etc. Jews Poles under Hitler ... About the Germans, the author wrote in the article ... And where did the Lithuanians go?
  8. urman
    urman 7 March 2018 07: 43
    +7
    Oh well, all the same, the Prussian kings and Russian emperors knew their job,
    They knew what kind of nation the Poles were and they could not their statehood
    so they shared it, apparently not from greed, but to calm.
  9. oracul
    oracul 7 March 2018 07: 45
    +8
    The point is not in historical delights that justify or, on the contrary, accuse Poland of her greedy desires, but that she has not received her hands for a long time. Ambition implicated in pathological greed and the desire to live on a freebie - this is the true cause of the problems of the Poles. The Ukrainians also inherited the same thing while they were under the Poles. Perhaps. the only thing they concede to the panam is in ambition. I think that Poland will choke on its desires, but it will flutter its nerves.
  10. tanit
    tanit 7 March 2018 07: 51
    +1
    This was not an "excess on the ground" - the genocide of the indigenous civilians of the new "Polish" territories was planned by the authorities. The first working version of the deportation of Germans was presented by the Benes government in November 1944.
    belay
    What?! Hmm, and when is Benes rule Poland, the author will not tell?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 March 2018 12: 08
      +1
      Quote: tanit
      Hmm, and when is Benes rule Poland, the author will not tell?

      + 10000000000
      The Government of Edward Benes - Fifth Czechoslovak government after the proclamation of a state
      1. NG inform
        NG inform 11 March 2018 13: 01
        +1
        And the Czechs genocide the Germans no worse. Death Marches is more of a Czech invention.
        Most Eastern European countries genocide peoples much more than what is attributed to Stalin.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 11 March 2018 16: 20
          0
          Quote: NG inform
          And the Czechs genocide the Germans no worse. Death Marches is more of a Czech invention.

          but the conversation is not about that and it’s not clear why are you trying to blur the topic of the mediocrity of “bloggers” of “journalists” and like that ?!
  11. BAI
    BAI 7 March 2018 09: 18
    +2
    Moreover, since July 1939, the Poles began border provocations, shelling German settlements.

    Any provocation should be of use to the provocateur. What is the point of this provocation for Poland? Get in the face? After all, the German army was universally recognized to be stronger than the Polish, and even such an incentive in its hands? So the Polish border provocations raise a big question.
    Well, with the demand for reparations - it’s very good that the “Hyena of Europe” will break off again.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 7 March 2018 09: 32
      +3
      Actually, the honored gentlemen considered themselves the strongest army in Europe, like the Svidomo lads today, that they are not foolish with plywood tanks! How petty they vomited, behind which was a coder with feathers!
    2. NG inform
      NG inform 11 March 2018 13: 03
      0
      And the fact that the Poles were constantly in conflict with us, with shelling, sabotage, etc. - What is it like? Inadequate same.
  12. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 7 March 2018 09: 44
    +1
    At the same time, Mulyarchik made it clear that, by Germany, the list of those whom Warsaw intends to “shake” on the subject of “historical debts”. Russia is next in line
    So thoughts about 1939 climb when the Poles were still explained where their real place is! Yes, now the times are not the same.
  13. tank66
    tank66 7 March 2018 10: 33
    +1
    [/ quote] in addition to Germany and Russia may be Ukraine, Lithuania and Belarus [quote]

    it is strange that the Turks are not on the list. for the invasion of 1672-1676. Erdogan would have a bawl for the Poles and the mattresses would have helped.
  14. Strashila
    Strashila 7 March 2018 10: 35
    +2
    Before moving the reparations, Poland will have to fully understand restitution from German citizens ... and this is about a third of its territory and various types of property ... well, of course, compensation ... and again compensation.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 7 March 2018 18: 45
      0
      Quote: Strashila
      Before moving the reparations Poland will have to get acquainted in full with restitution from German citizens ...

      Before getting reparations, Poland must defeat Germany in the war.
  15. komrad buh
    komrad buh 7 March 2018 10: 38
    0
    If a ride, then such a lender is easier to bang together and that's it
  16. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 7 March 2018 11: 46
    0
    Mulichchik live! There will be no Pshekia from Mozh to Mozh with such a policy! But someone is pushing them towards this, the one who does not need a united and friendly EU! Since he is energetically imprisoned in Russia, which means there are fears that changes in relations are possible, that’s why they are not Orthodox and are insulting their neighbors ...
  17. iouris
    iouris 7 March 2018 13: 56
    +4
    The significance of the article is that the author presents historical facts practically unknown to the general public not only in the Russian Federation, but also in other countries. This allows you to take a fresh look at the foreign policy of the ruling circles of modern Poland and the peculiarities of the national psychology of the people, which certainly have very deep historical roots, hidden from observers in neighboring countries of Poland.
  18. Cuba
    Cuba 7 March 2018 14: 21
    +1
    Quote: forester
    Someone clever said - "Poland has eyes larger than its stomach" - it is thought that indigestion will happen again and it will cease to exist as a separate state again.


    ok indigestion .... maybe constipation can happen !! .... Stalin had to fulfill the Polish Dream - from mozh to mozh !! !! ... to stay in the Chukotka region, between the two northern seas !!
    1. urman
      urman 7 March 2018 16: 12
      0
      And note, these will be the southern shores of those seas laughing
  19. Quintus sertorius
    Quintus sertorius 7 March 2018 14: 59
    +1
    And when will the Germans give grandmas to Poland? Which they were taught when joining the EU. The Poles, in my opinion, decided to start the bidding in advance. And then they took strangers, but they must give their own.
  20. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 7 March 2018 15: 37
    0
    One wonders if such a Poland is needed on the map of Europe?
    1. Ronald Reagan
      Ronald Reagan 7 March 2018 17: 41
      0
      I need it. No wonder that all Western Belarusians go to work there and buy sausages. laughing
      1. Jeans35
        Jeans35 9 March 2018 21: 10
        0
        I am from Grodno. Deep not everything, do not escalate.
  21. Cuba
    Cuba 7 March 2018 16: 00
    0
    Quote: dedBoroded
    One wonders if such a Poland is needed on the map of Europe?

    and what is there to think? ... no one is needed, only dregs from her!
  22. prior
    prior 7 March 2018 17: 54
    0
    I suspect that soon not only Kiev will be left without gas.
  23. rehev931
    rehev931 7 March 2018 18: 50
    0
    more than once they wash themselves with blood !!!
  24. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 7 March 2018 18: 55
    0
    Quote: Strashila
    Before moving the reparations, Poland will have to fully understand restitution from German citizens ... and this is about a third of its territory and various types of property ... well, of course, compensation ... and again compensation.

    Yes, by the way, I did not understand ... Poland in the European Union, or how ... For a long time claims have been brought against the property of the Baltic states. As far as I remember, our great artist Vija Artmane was evicted from restitution from home. Or am I mistaken? Or is it already waiting for the Poles ...?
    1. Strashila
      Strashila 7 March 2018 20: 20
      0
      Jews run into them openly on this subject ... they stupidly pretend that they do not exist.
    2. Cetron
      Cetron 8 March 2018 21: 49
      0
      This was returned to the nationalized houses of the USSR to the descendants of the local bourgeoisie (as it were).
  25. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 7 March 2018 19: 28
    +1
    Quote: Ronald Reagan
    I need it. No wonder that all Western Belarusians go to work there and buy sausages. laughing

    Living in Grodno and working in Poland is very profitable. There you can get about 1000 bucks a month, but their communal apartment, with a rented apartment, is about 500 green. If you are undernourished, lack of sleep, work for 12 hours, and come home for the weekend, you can earn something. As for sausage and other products:
    1. A relative worked there in the civil service, when traveling on a business trip to Belarus by car, he bought sausages from us, etc., up to potatoes, everything is rubber. During international feasts, as I say, I brought all food and drinks from Belarus, went with a bang.
    2. I do not know about you, Euronews is coming with us, I am constantly looking through it in order to know how the adversary lives. About a month ago, our former “brothers” under the Warsaw Treaty filed a lawsuit (or were about to file) with a court there that the European Union was selling them products other than those delivered to France, Germany, etc., such as better - old Europe, worse - joined.
    Regarding the purchase of products in Poland - there it is cheaper (and more European) wink ), and smart eat their own, see above, however ... laughing
    1. NF68
      NF68 7 March 2018 19: 47
      +1
      Quote: Sewer Krainiy
      Regarding the purchase of products in Poland - it’s cheaper there (and more European), and smart ones eat their food, see above, however ..


      I don’t know how about all the products, but farm laborers working in Germany regularly buy chocolate in Germany before going home. When asked why they do this, they answer that in Germany, chocolate is of better quality, and the price difference is not significant.
  26. NF68
    NF68 7 March 2018 19: 44
    +3
    Poles, as always, in their repertoire. Well, they cannot help but quarrel with their neighbors. Apparently, otherwise, life is boring for them.
    1. urman
      urman 10 March 2018 11: 26
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      Quote: NF68
      Well, they cannot help but quarrel with their neighbors.

      The relative had neighbors, always drunk, scandalous, they got the whole entrance and didn’t give it to the passage.
      During their next drinking party, someone took and opened the door for them.
      Well, after the MSC nicknames left, they were released, the peasants taught them a lesson, including with their feet. And how the grandmother whispered.
      He feels my heart, the Poles scratch their ridge, once again.
      1. NF68
        NF68 11 March 2018 18: 03
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        Quote: urman
        He feels my heart, the Poles scratch their ridge, once again.


        The Poles behave in this way is not the first century, and what kind of lyuley for this and for everything else they just didn’t rake from, but there’s little sense anyway.
  27. nafanal
    nafanal 7 March 2018 20: 38
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    When it comes to hardworking but dumb burghers that they want to breed them, I won’t envy the Poles.
    1. NF68
      NF68 8 March 2018 15: 57
      +1
      Quote: Nathanael
      When it comes to hardworking but dumb burghers that they want to breed them, I won’t envy the Poles.


      It will reach them very quickly. It’s enough to mention the reaction to Trump’s decision to introduce customs on steel and aluminum and what happened even earlier when Tramp only announced that imported goods would be subject to additional taxes. And no one takes Poland seriously, the first prostitute in Europe and nothing more.
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 7 March 2018 21: 16
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    It seems that through Poland, the Americans want to pronounce the EU their sentence? Ruin your direct competitor, with the hands of the stupid and ambitious Young Europeans. Poland will get another kick and problems for the EU, the Poles have big plans ...........................
    1. NF68
      NF68 9 March 2018 14: 25
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      Quote: APASUS
      It seems that through Poland, the Americans want to pronounce the EU their sentence? Ruin your direct competitor, with the hands of the stupid and ambitious Young Europeans.


      Will the Americans and the Poles succeed? The more both come to the EU, the weaker the position of pro-American leaders becomes in the EU. In the future, the United States can significantly reduce its influence in the EU due to such an increasingly aggressive policy towards its allies.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 9 March 2018 15: 41
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        Quote: NF68
        The more both come to the EU, the weaker the position of pro-American leaders becomes in the EU

        About Merkel and not to say that she has poor control over the situation. How many appeals of German business, how much criticism of the migration policy, and everything lives and directs.
        Quote: NF68
        In the future, the United States can significantly reduce its influence in the EU due to such an increasingly aggressive policy towards its allies.

        And now we’ll see how much your words come true. The United States introduced protective duties on steel and aluminum from the EU as well.
        The head of the European Commission spoke very strongly, so we will see how much Europe is independent, so far speaking does not quite mean acting
        1. NF68
          NF68 9 March 2018 18: 42
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          About Merkel and not to say that she has poor control over the situation. How many appeals of German business, how much criticism of the migration policy, and everything lives and directs.


          Merkel is very cautious and always tries to keep her nose "downwind."

          And now we’ll see how much your words come true. The United States introduced protective duties on steel and aluminum from the EU as well.
          The head of the European Commission spoke very strongly, so we will see how much Europe is independent, so far speaking does not quite mean acting


          If something else depended on me personally in this case. I refer to what German and a number of European media report on this subject.
  29. svp67
    svp67 8 March 2018 08: 05
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    Let them pay! Poland intends to "put on the money" of all its neighbors
    Is it any wonder that after this the neighbors have an opinion that it will be cheaper to divide, once again, Poland
    1. NF68
      NF68 9 March 2018 18: 42
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      Quote: svp67
      Is it any wonder that after this the neighbors have an opinion that it will be cheaper to divide, once again, Poland


      After that, there will be so much stink that it is unlikely that anyone will seriously even think about it.
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 March 2018 08: 37
        0
        Quote: NF68
        After that, there will be so much stink that it is unlikely that anyone will seriously even think about it.

        Let’s see ... the stink will be scattered, and the source of the stink will be covered ...
        1. NF68
          NF68 11 March 2018 18: 06
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: NF68
          After that, there will be so much stink that it is unlikely that anyone will seriously even think about it.

          Let’s see ... the stink will be scattered, and the source of the stink will be covered ...


          Who will pay for all this? And at the expense of the fact that someone will seriously climb to the Poles for the sake of admonishing proud Poles, I somehow can’t believe it. The Poles stink and to hell with them. Everyone in Europe has long been accustomed to this.
          1. svp67
            svp67 11 March 2018 18: 12
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            Quote: NF68
            Everyone in Europe has long been accustomed to this.

            But now their roof has changed. And under this “overseas roof”, Poles can generally “lose their shores”, which will be purely in Polish, and here you want to or not, but you have to do something
            1. NF68
              NF68 11 March 2018 21: 54
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              Quote: svp67
              Quote: NF68
              Everyone in Europe has long been accustomed to this.

              But now their roof has changed. And under this “overseas roof”, Poles can generally “lose their shores”, which will be purely in Polish, and here you want to or not, but you have to do something


              All the same, as Europeans treated the Poles, they will continue to apply, and even the Americans will not change much. In addition, Poland’s neighbors can also invoice.
              1. svp67
                svp67 11 March 2018 23: 07
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                Quote: NF68
                In addition, Poland’s neighbors can also invoice.

                When issuing such invoices, in order to bring down the ambition from the lords, you need to have a strong and well-equipped “fist”, so that the lords do not have any special illusions, and that they will, I have no doubt ...
                1. NF68
                  NF68 12 March 2018 16: 36
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                  Quote: svp67
                  Quote: NF68
                  In addition, Poland’s neighbors can also invoice.

                  When issuing such invoices, in order to bring down the ambition from the lords, you need to have a strong and well-equipped “fist”, so that the lords do not have any special illusions, and that they will, I have no doubt ...


                  Economically, Poland is very dependent on the same Germany or France. And Poland also depends on cheap Russian gas. If the Poles decide to abandon Russian gas and buy more expensive from the United States, only the Poles themselves will be worse.
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 12 March 2018 16: 48
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                    Quote: NF68
                    And Poland also depends on cheap Russian gas

                    Well, judging by this scheme, they not only receive Russian gas directly, but they are also a transit country, which means they get money for it ... If the JV-2 starts operating, the Polish GTS as a transit will be automatically reset .
  30. naidas
    naidas 8 March 2018 17: 26
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    In Russia, Poland will submit to the Stockholm arbitration, 100% win.
    1. svp67
      svp67 12 March 2018 04: 46
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      Quote: naidas
      In Russia, Poland will submit to the Stockholm arbitration, 100% win.

      What are you talking about?
      The Stockholm Chamber of Commerce Arbitration Institute (CCI), known as the Stockholm International Arbitration Court or Stockholm Arbitration (Swedish. Stockholms Handelskammares Skiljedomsinstitut) is a commercial arbitration court that has been considering international civil disputes since the 1970s (subject to arbitration agreement of the parties, hence compulsory enforcement of the arbitral award). It is an independent division of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce
      1. naidas
        naidas 12 March 2018 16: 37
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        About the decision on Gazprom-gas through Ukraine was allowed in transit-pay. Any claim can be won.
  31. colotun
    colotun 8 March 2018 19: 22
    +1
    This is a new interesting infa about Poland, before I came across only vague hints in general terms that the Poles mistreated the Ukrainians who lived in Poland after 1917 and after 1945
  32. vinni-puk
    vinni-puk 9 March 2018 07: 17
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    And why not initiate a review of the borders between Poland and Germany?
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 9 March 2018 12: 17
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      Great idea. The most interesting thing is when Poland will demand Lithuania from Lithuania - the fight of a hyena with a jackal.
  33. chingachguc
    chingachguc 9 March 2018 17: 29
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    the dog barks - the wind wears ...
  34. New Year day
    New Year day 10 March 2018 15: 42
    +1
    Well, what to take from these psheks? Hyena, she is the hyena.
    The joke is that they are going to get compensation for their gentry, ruined by Ivan Susanin!
    According to Pshek, almost 400 years ago, Russia recognized the fact of genocide against Polish citizens, moreover, committed in an uncivilized way.
    All the dead were left with young children and elderly parents, who began to have significant financial difficulties after the loss of the breadwinners, and who were experiencing significant moral suffering as a result.

  35. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 10 March 2018 17: 12
    +1
    We believe: during the liberation of Poland, 380 thousand of our soldiers died. We bill for compensation to families and demographic losses. Plus help with socialism. Plus for military equipment. Plus for those killed in concentration camps in 1920 and their families. dumpers ... And so without end .. It runs, I think, 2-3 trillion. dollars .. laughing

    I forgot to add: for spent ammunition and lost equipment in WWII ...
  36. MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 10 March 2018 18: 54
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    Quote: naidas
    In Russia, Poland will submit to the Stockholm arbitration, 100% win.

    And?
  37. MKPU-115
    MKPU-115 10 March 2018 18: 58
    +1
    Quote: Silvestr
    Well, what to take from these psheks? Hyena, she is the hyena.
    The joke is that they are going to get compensation for their gentry, ruined by Ivan Susanin!
    According to Pshek, almost 400 years ago, Russia recognized the fact of genocide against Polish citizens, moreover, committed in an uncivilized way.
    All the dead were left with young children and elderly parents, who began to have significant financial difficulties after the loss of the breadwinners, and who were experiencing significant moral suffering as a result.


    We put a stone in that place
  38. ARES623
    ARES623 11 March 2018 13: 03
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    I do not consider myself to be Polish fans, but when the authors dissolve informational “ducks” such as unconfirmed planes allegedly shot down by Poles, or August Schillinger, who somehow “resurrected” in the Reich’s information flows, I am tormented by propaganda tricks. After all, the professional historian Anthony Macachevich does exactly the same thing. Well, why become like these members of the Smolensk sect? A small lie gives rise to great distrust and a lot of speculation. As for the requirements of reparations by the Poles, dancing on the rake is the eternal hobby of the "Panov". They are obviously bored without the "sections", so they beg .... Type, "but how will the new section look today?" On the other hand, in the near future, with a decrease in financial assistance from the EU (read Germany), loan repayment terms come, most of Germany. Maybe this is such an attempt to get off the debt noose?
  39. intuzazist
    intuzazist 11 March 2018 18: 59
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    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    Andrei Yurevich, are you personally on tour, with a machine gun in your hands, will you participate or will you look from the couch for news and support with angry comments?

    I am ready personally! Just not with a gun in hand, but at the helm of the aircraft ....................
  40. NF68
    NF68 12 March 2018 20: 38
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    Quote: svp67
    Quote: NF68
    And Poland also depends on cheap Russian gas

    Well, judging by this scheme, they not only receive Russian gas directly, but they are also a transit country, which means they get money for it ... If the JV-2 starts operating, the Polish GTS as a transit will be automatically reset .


    Proud Poles could not be otherwise. Either they lack adrenaline, or slap both from the east and the west at the same time.