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It remains to surprise Mars

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After Putin’s fabulous shame of the former main military power of the planet, Russia may present an even more unexpected surprise - in space


It remains to surprise Mars



The day after Putin’s “Munich speech No. XXNX” —that's how you can call his message to the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, taking into account the stunning effect, your humble servant wrote “answers to key questions” inspired by this message. Much of these answers, for lack of accurate data, were purely intuitive. In particular, the assumption made in paragraph six that one of the guarantees of the success of the military-strategic breakthrough of Russia, which the President spoke about, was a grandiose special operation to cover the entire complex of research and design works that were carried out in this direction. Let me remind you how this “opening on the tip of the pen” was formulated.

“For any security officer, ensuring the secrecy of their plans, the progress of their implementation, as well as creating a surprise effect for the enemy is the cornerstone. And the Russian leader in these sciences clearly succeeded. He managed to make the whole world think about Russia and its capabilities a bit differently than it really is. In this, he was greatly helped by the still-preserved traditions and the most experienced cadres of the once most closed country in the world, who perfectly mastered all the technologies of closing state special events of any scale and complexity.

It was these particular technologies of absolute secrecy that accompanied the Soviet space program at one time, which allowed the Soviet Union to regularly drive Americans into a complete stupor.

The use of ... a combination of external distracting noise effects (for example, through the same loud and stupid liberal media) and intense, focused work in the opposite direction, away from prying eyes and with the obligatory surprise of the Gagarin scale at the end, apparently, became the key to success and current strategic program. "
https://topwar.ru/137128-obezoruzhennye-shtaty-ameriki.html

And now, after exactly two days, our purely speculative assumption was confirmed at the highest state level. Russian President Vladimir Putin, praised the Federal Security Service for keeping the development of the new secret. weapons, which was mentioned at the time of the message to the Federal Assembly.

"I want to note that we managed to provide effective operational counter-intelligence cover for these large-scale projects," Putin said. He thanked everyone who participated in this responsible, challenging work.
http://tass.ru/politika/5009322

Thus, today, with good reason and not only on the basis of personal conjectures, but also based on the authority of the president of Russia, we can definitely state the following.

Despite all the seeming mess, the feeling of which is actively fueled by part of the media and the metropolitan party, the constant boiling of passions on the Internet, endless emissions and stuffing of all kinds of fakes and outright nonsense, which special cohorts of specially trained speakers, including special ones, specialize in serving all this is nothing more than a ritualistic whistle and tinsel. There is practically nothing to do with the real state of affairs in key areas of state work. And what's more, it serves as a kind of smoke screen that creates for those for whom it is designed a relaxing impression of such a little-copered rashka that you should not take seriously.

Well, what to take with them, if they are so none that they even agreed to go to the Olympics without their own flag and hymn.
But it turned out, in fact, that this was not entirely true. In chess, only a complete ignoramus can count on a pawn to queen without passing the exchange of light and heavy pieces. And it seems that the same Olympiad, in these geopolitical chess, was something of an elephant sacrifice. And the victims are not unrequited. Two majestic golden victories of Russian athletes in two traditionally most important winter sports, the most beautiful figure skating and the most courageous ice hockey, de facto made Russia the main birthday party of this kind of event.

In the meantime, Putin's strategic pawn confidently, but at the same time, quietly and imperceptibly, went to queens. And still got it! Exactly when it was planned.

What does this mean? In my opinion, firstly, that the country is completely manageable, and the supreme power is effective. Secondly, the fact that both of them are quite sufficient for the implementation of the most ambitious scientific and technical projects that provide unquestionable world leadership. And this is exactly what the USSR did very well. What this means is that the corresponding potential and experience are not lost at all and, as Putin said, in the same Message - “relying on the achievements of our brilliant predecessors, we achieved our own significant results”.

I begin to suspect that the demonstratively noisy fuss around the Russian Academy of Sciences, started right at the moment when Putin's strategic projects were in full swing, with all its incomprehensible discussions about anything, could also be a dramatization, under the veil of which Russian scientists and designers got the opportunity to work fruitfully, while the scientific departments of the CIA and MI6 were in complete euphoria from the "final collapse of Russian science."

And it not only did not collapse, but also under the guise of quite hollow-glamor ersatz- “silicone valleys”, successfully concentrated real scientific forces to solve military-technical problems that were beyond the comprehension of the rest of the world. And, note, scientists and designers, it turns out, did not run away anywhere and at the right time, in the right place, they were in the required quantity and quality.
And just one more guess right away! Are these young talents from the “scientific companies” created by Sergei Shoigu several years ago and about which almost nothing was heard? Thank God that our “mainstream” press, in the eternal search for the next portion of dirty laundry from some pop diva, was not particularly interested. And the talents that have not been noticed by anyone have gradually grown, “settled down”, having received along the way a charge of army vigor, patriotism and an antidote from evil thoughts about “ideal” abroad. And they began, finally, as they should, to gush forth with breakthrough ideas.

And why not, if Putin surely made it so that these young geniuses had everything and could work quietly for the good of the country, and not dream out of it as quickly as possible.

Of course, this is again only my speculation. But he is very much like the truth. Because otherwise I just can not imagine - where did it all come from? So it was a job - a big and focused. And it had to be organized. And, therefore, there is someone to do it and there is someone to aim at it.

At the same time, the key factories and design bureaus of our military industry, including those about which we probably don’t know anything, began a massive rejuvenation of production personnel - the work on preparing young people for serial release of a new, absolutely advanced and unique product. Traces of this work, about which our sexually anxious press also barely wrote, had to be collected literally bit by bit. Nevertheless, the puzzle was formed here - it was clear that the youth found a worthy use for themselves. In particular, this was discussed in my article “Pearls from a manure pile”. https://topwar.ru/136448-zhechuzhiny-iz-navoznoy-kuchi.html

How many more such pearls are left in reserve with Vladimir Putin surely only he and those who are supposed to know. I will not guess. But given the nature of the Russian President and his ability to master every move a lot in advance, count each game, there is no doubt that this stock is still very significant.

And if the solemn meeting of the participants of the Martian expedition Ilon Mask by the Russian cosmonauts who have already settled on Mars will be one of those already planned Putin surprises, then I will not be too surprised. In any case, the small-sized nuclear power plant for cruise missiles, already created by Russian designers, is definitely a prototype of the engine for an interplanetary spacecraft. And, yes - did nothing remind you of a hypersonic aircraft, from the Putin's series of military-strategic surprises, with its fiery halo of red-hot plasma? This is exactly what the entrance to the atmosphere of another planet reconnaissance drone of a similar design might look like.

It is not by chance that Putin promised a decade of brilliant victories to Russia in one of his recent speeches. And it seems that it has already begun.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 6 March 2018 07: 07
    +24
    leave behind Mars already, let's solve problems at home. What do we need from a dead planet?
    1. vasilkovichi
      vasilkovichi 6 March 2018 07: 36
      +19
      Actually, the article is not about Mars, Andrey Yuryevich.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 6 March 2018 07: 42
        +2
        Quote: vasilkovichi
        Actually, the article is not about Mars, Andrey Yuryevich.

        me, about the headline ..
        1. Thor
          Thor 6 March 2018 18: 46
          +13
          The article is about nothing at all, transfusion from empty to vacuum, with rubbish type
          The small-sized nuclear power plant for cruise missiles is definitely a prototype of the engine for an interplanetary spacecraft.
          . The author does not distinguish between atmosphere and space.
          And this installation is under a big question ..
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 March 2018 08: 17
      +5
      In his message, the GDP noted that Russia needs to be "stitched" with a transport line. It’s already clear that the auto crossing on the Crimean bridge will open much earlier than the announced deadline. And the "transport line" can stretch to Moldova. Everything has its time. winked
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 6 March 2018 11: 43
        +21
        I did not understand the article, either a subtle mockery of the President’s really shocking “cartoons” before the Federal Assembly, or his glorification for the “sophisticated” secret developments of the military-industrial complex, as if providing Russia with a calm future? Putin’s “cunning plan” again?
        Do not make people laugh. What kind of developments can be discussed in a raw material colonial dependent country that regularly invests its foreign exchange reserves in the economies of other countries, including in a large share in the USA, instead of developing its own?
        First of all, it is necessary to solve the vital political problems of the people, develop their own economy, force the oligarch to fork out to strengthen the country's defenses, restore the army’s containment forces against the concentrating NATO / US forces on the western borders of Russia, stop interfering in the endless civil war in Syria, with distraction on her, not so much of their strength.
        And most importantly, in the end, work for your own state, and not for offshore companies and oligarchs !!!
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 6 March 2018 12: 48
          +35
          What regularly invests its foreign exchange reserves in the economies of other countries, including in a large share in the United States, instead of developing its own?


          hold the pie. nicely worked. Putin specially for you, an adult child, showed cartoons. Yes

          First of all, it is necessary to solve the domestic political vital problems of the people, develop their own economy, force the oligarch to fork out to strengthen the country's defense capabilities, restore the army’s containment forces against the concentrating NATO / US forces on the western borders of Russia, stop interfering in the endless civil war in Syria, with a distraction on her, not so much of her strength.
          And most importantly, in the end, work for their own state, and not for offshore and the oligarchs !!!


          Well, as usual. As if listening to Latynina's broadcast on Echo. Or some sort of Venediktov. They are even more pathos worried about the fate of the Russian. You need to tighten this moment.



          What kind of developments can be discussed in a raw material colonial dependent country


          aha laughing A nuclear reactor from Rosatom to your bay, fast neutrons. Scientific Advancement vladimirZ

          Spit in Putin, got to Russia. normally. In principle, what else to expect from your fraternity. Everything is as usual.

          Get your handkerchief, Putin’s election is coming soon. Another 6 years to read your moans.

          PS Who will you vote for? For Paul, probably?)
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 6 March 2018 13: 37
            +22
            Quote: c-Petrov
            hold the pie. nicely worked. Putin specially for you, an adult child, showed cartoons

            You seem to work out here, judging by what reaction and how you react to any word against Putin, as if it offends you for a living.
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            Spit in Putin, got to Russia.

            Take it higher! In you, Petrov! Russia was not meant there. He wrote so many words, tried!
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            Get your handkerchief, Putin’s election is coming soon. Another 6 years to read your moans.

            And you do not suffer, why so worry! You can always choose another resource. Although like another ... it's only in the zombies that everything is for Putin, but on the Internet, most are against it. Therefore, I sympathize with you, Petrov. You have only one way out - to decisively turn off the Internet and peacefully, in pink glasses, enjoy parallel reality on the blue television screen, with your favorite programs SoloveyTV and Russia24.
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 6 March 2018 14: 17
              +22
              What a twist!
              For some reason, I, the patriot of my country, should choose a different resource, just because Russophobian trolls who made it onto the patriotic site on military-political topics want this?
              No, it's better the other way around.
            2. St Petrov
              St Petrov 6 March 2018 15: 32
              +13
              And you do not suffer, why so worry! You can always choose another resource. Although like another ... it's only in the zombies that everything is for Putin, but on the Internet, most are against it.


              one five seven you even earned with your struggle at least the post of prime minister in the government in parallel reality or on the Internet, where for Grudinin more soldier

              Helmet is the main thing so as not to sting
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 6 March 2018 15: 44
                +15
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                one five seven

                Hey there in parallel reality! Are you talking ciphers? I do not understand.))
                Quote: s-t Petrov
                are you at all

                "And you ... and you ... you generally ..."
                Petrov, you do not seem to have grown out of short pants! What group are you in, middle or preparatory this time?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 6 March 2018 17: 06
                  +12
                  Petrov, you do not seem to have grown out of short pants! What group are you in, middle or preparatory this time?


                  look you like the same wrestlers. I'm in a manger, in the Kremlin and on Putin's salary.

                  Rich now think wassat you revealed me

                  All who are not with you and not with your mind-blowing party of non-villagers are those on the salary of the Kremlin, yes.

                  In this world, Stasodin five, everything is simple.

                  So vladimirZ will heal when Paul is chosen in a parallel universe and he will be included in the number of caressed by the Strawberry cooperative. Judging by the posts there, he marks at least the position of the Head of the Economic Section love

                  See that he does not take your place. Although you have approximately the same posts, no creativity. So do not worry.

            3. DMB_95
              DMB_95 6 March 2018 19: 23
              +16
              Quote: Stas157
              .... You can always choose another resource. Although like another ... it's only in the zombies that everything is for Putin, but on the Internet most are against it.

              Do you seriously consider yourself authoritative enough to advise unfamiliar men - what should they choose? Fucking such a symptom, congratulations ... And about the “majority on the Internet against” Putin, tell Pavlik Grudinin or any of the other extras for the night, who know right from the start of the election campaign that it will be Putin who will be the President of Russia. If you are sincerely convinced of the opposite, then this is no longer a symptom, but a disease.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 6 March 2018 21: 07
                +12
                Quote: DMB_95
                Do you seriously consider yourself authoritative enough to advise unfamiliar men - what should they choose?

                Oh, yes, you took upon yourself an insult! Now trying to threaten? Go ahead! Feel free to write further what will happen to me!))
                Quote: DMB_95
                And about the “majority on the Internet against” Putin tell Pavlik Grudinin at night

                Rough. But, I understand you, you are annoyed. You know, if on this site (this site is a reserve for Zaputenov) a good half for Grudinin, then what is happening on the rest! Go to any site, look ... in YouTube, just hatred reigns for the Sun! Therefore, you are simply trying to give out wishful thinking. A separate question to VTsIOM where does it get its pouting ratings from, which for any test, have nothing to do with life.
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 6 March 2018 23: 05
                  +10
                  You know, if on this site (this site is a reserve for Zaputenov) a good half for Grudinin, then what is happening on the rest! Go to any site look ... youtube just hatred reigns on the Sun! Therefore, you are simply trying to give out wishful thinking. A separate question to VTsIOM where does he get your puffy ratings which for any test, have nothing to do with life.


                  this site is a reserve for the Zaputenov


                  Well, you can’t write this to an adult. it's full ... I don’t even know what word to choose so that it’s not banned forever laughing

                  here I can take 90% of your scribble on the site in quotes and spell out whoever is whoever is.

                  But I don’t feel the threat of the election from your brethren, so I just smile from your comments and your co-religionists


                  PS will you go to the Maidan after Putin’s election? You’ll get on Putin’s Red Square and gooey water! You will then look for gold loaves in the residences. Your standard of living will jump right away wassat

                  Romance! Justice! Brotherhood laughing
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 7 March 2018 04: 51
                    +1
                    Quote: s-t Petrov
                    . I don’t even know what word to choose so as not to be banned forever

                    Star Wafer Aerial Wafer am
                2. DMB_95
                  DMB_95 7 March 2018 10: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Oh, yes, you took upon yourself an insult! Now trying to threaten? Go ahead! Feel free to write further what will happen to me!)
                  So you, it turns out, are trying to insult here, and not stupidly
                  doing clumsy clowning ... Or is it in your liquid ranks of anti-Putin trolls that a genre crisis has come? And in what words did you manage to discern a threat to yourself, the fearful “fighter against the regime”? Now I don’t need to go over to threats - they themselves are already scared in advance. All the buzz broken off .. laughing
                  Quote: Stas157
                  Roughly ..... Go to any site, look ... in YouTube, just hatred reigns for the Sun! Therefore, you are simply trying to give out wishful thinking.

                  Roughly - this is “a little” different for real opponents. And I look at sites, even your unrealistically "reliable" "youtube" - when there’s nothing more to laugh at. Well, and who gives wishful thinking, we all will find out after March 18. Or do you already know about future "fraud" ?? Wait, don’t say, suddenly Grudinin will win .. laughing
              2. Svarog
                Svarog 8 March 2018 06: 12
                +5
                Quote: DMB_95
                If you are sincerely convinced of the opposite, then this is no longer a symptom, but a disease.

                I recommend that you look at the ratings of comments .. and then you will see a real picture of who is for Putin and who is for Grudinin ..
                1. DMB_95
                  DMB_95 8 March 2018 17: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: Svarog

                  I recommend that you look at the ratings of comments .. and then you will see a real picture of who is for Putin and who is for Grudinin ..

                  Do you seriously consider ratings of comments as a serious criterion by which you can "see the real picture" ?? Well, what else to add ....
            4. St Petrov
              St Petrov 6 March 2018 22: 46
              +12
              I did not understand the article, or whether it was a subtle mockery, really over the President’s puzzling cartoons before the Federal Assembly, whether his glorification for the "sophisticated" secret development of the military-industrial complexas if providing Russia with a calm future? Putin’s “cunning plan” again?


              tell you who you spat with these your lines? Not to Russia? No? Not a scientist? Not to the factories with the entire production chain that have created this Nucleonum with a huge team? Cartoons show him ... Yeah

              Although I understand that this is not an argument for you, the words of Putin, the Ministry of Defense and all that are not 20 election points in Grudinin’s program written on paper

              Maybe you spit on Putin in these lines? And in all our power that has gathered in the hall? Are you from Russia? And if so, is that normal for you?

              enjoy parallel reality at the blue television screen, with the favorite programs of SoloveyTV and Russia24.


              Allegedly "tricky" vladimirZ - watch Aljazira, RBC, Rain and SNN and be sure to burn the TV - if you accidentally stumble upon RT or Russia24

              There, I think the non-nazy people will also tell me that Putin has cartoons. After all, this is not Putin's media

              not good you are our representative of the "people"
              1. Barabashka 68
                Barabashka 68 9 March 2018 06: 38
                +1
                "Cartoons show him" - you should not argue with people who saw only cartoons in the message.) Vladimirych showed what is needed and who needs it, someone understood, the rest will be worn out.
            5. zenion
              zenion 8 March 2018 15: 24
              0
              In zomboyaschik there are no sites with the Russian flag and located in the States.
          2. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 6 March 2018 13: 39
            +25
            s-t Petrov - at

            Usually I don’t communicate with boors, but I will answer you. For others that read comments, and not so stupid.
            Do not mix Russia and V. Putin. These are different categories. Or are you likened to Volodin from the Duma, who is exhaustively stupidly shouting that Putin is Russia? Not true. Russia is not Putin!
            If you do not understand either economics or politics, you liken the Communists to some kind of Akhejakov fools, by the way to the anti-communist and liberal, from the same camp as Putin, then what can you talk about? About the "nuclear reactor to your fast neutron bay" in the same place? Stupid!
            I did not care about Putin, I am his principal political opponent, who disagrees with his course of predatory oligarchic capitalism in Russia. Nearby, today in VO there is an article on the economic results of the "development" of Russia, including during the time of Putnin, everything is painted there, I advise you to read. Although there, knowledge is likely, at least there is no understanding of economic terms. You can only chat in the capricious stupid "cheers-patriotism", which really has nothing with real patriotism.
            I’ll vote, as a communist who never betrayed the Oath, for the leftist forces and their candidate Pavel Grudinin - the only candidate who can lead Russia out of the quarter-century political and economic crisis that the country has fallen into because of Putin.
            And 6 years, if Putin reappears as President, it will be Russia's misfortune, like those that were during the 18 years when he was in power. For the people, nothing will change for the better, it will only. worse. You are blind and illiterate. Then you will remember Putin, as now Yeltsin and Gorbachev, but it will be too late!
            For this I stop communicating with you, because of the meaninglessness of the conversation and rudeness, which I can not stand.
            1. Denis Obukhov
              Denis Obukhov 6 March 2018 13: 45
              +15
              With Putin, it will be like with Gorbachev and Yeltsin, when he leaves, they will be mixed with slops and brown substance, and the Yeltsin center will be removed leaving the requisite to the premises of 9 sq.
              1. emwave
                emwave 11 March 2018 13: 48
                0
                And we’ll see how and what will happen.
            2. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 6 March 2018 13: 59
              +16
              I advise everyone to read the article in the VO Opinion section - “Two Such Different Russia, or the President’s Message to the Federal Assembly”.
              A very "great development" of Russia under V. Putin ?!
              Read and enrich your knowledge. Do not be stupid "with Petrov." And vote right in the presidential election. Now there is a real chance to change the situation in Russia by electing Pavel Grudinin, a candidate for the union of leftist forces of Russia: the Communist Party and the national-patriotic forces, concerned about the plight of the country, where oligarchic authorities led by the Yeltsin-Putin put it.
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 6 March 2018 14: 11
                +10
                Do not be stupid "with Petrov." And vote right in the presidential election. Now there is a real chance to change the situation in Russia by electing Pavel Grudinin - candidate of the Union of Leftist Forces of Russia:


                hahaha
                good luck in voting. Clever laughing

                funny to me from your attempts. Well, vote, vote, I will write to each of your brethren March 19 with congratulations drinks laughing

                So hold on, good mood and Faith
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 8 March 2018 06: 20
                  +6
                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  Do not be stupid "with Petrov." And vote right in the presidential election. Now there is a real chance to change the situation in Russia by electing Pavel Grudinin - candidate of the Union of Leftist Forces of Russia:


                  hahaha
                  good luck in voting. Clever laughing

                  funny to me from your attempts. Well, vote, vote, I will write to each of your brethren March 19 with congratulations drinks laughing

                  So hold on, good mood and Faith

                  Petrov, you see how people vote, by the number of stars you can see who is for Putin and who is for Grudinin .. You are Petrov in a clear minority, like Putin))
              2. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 7 March 2018 00: 41
                +10
                I’m just wondering if you’re crying that Russia is dying under Putin. Usually they say that when they can compare with something. Are you comparing with or by whom? With Stalin, Lenin, Khrushchev, or by whom? You have nothing to compare with anyone. However, you persistently continue to cry Yaroslavna. Will Grudinin bring order in? Do you seriously believe? A person without experience, without a team, authority will do better?
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 7 March 2018 04: 07
                  +5
                  I’m just wondering if you’re crying that Russia is dying under Putin. Usually they say that when they can compare with something. Are you comparing with or by whom? - rounding

                  I compare it with the years of Soviet power, during which I lived most of my life - 60-70s, early 80s pre-perestroika. I saw and know how they lived there, I can compare, and not in favor of the current capitalist oligarchic corruption regime of power.
                  Yes, we had shortcomings there, but they were not of a systemic mass nature, people improved every year, factories and factories were built, free housing was cheap for public services, everyone had guaranteed work and decent wages, for which it was worthy live.
                  Pensioners did not climb the garbage dumps in search of discarded yet suitable food. All children and youth were provided with free education, all the people with free the best health care in the world at that time. It was delicious GOST food, from which people did not poison.
                  Compare the time and the present, when sick children receive SMS money on TV for surgery, while the elderly cannot buy medicine, with meager pensions and expensive housing and communal services, they simply do not have enough for food. Is the current shameful phenomenon for Russia when working people do not receive a salary comparable to the minimum cost of living?
                  A blind person who does not want to see this and know about it will continue to glorify this regime of power that is predatory for the people. Do you look like one of them?
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 7 March 2018 07: 56
                    +6
                    I compare it with the years of Soviet power, during which I lived most of my life - 60-70s, early 80s pre-perestroika.

                    Colleague, you compare soft to warm. Those times WILL NOT BACK, at least in the near future. And believe me, I write with nostalgia for them. If you are constantly nostalgic then ..... I mean the comparison over the past 30 years?
                    Nobody says that these are ideal and honest times. This is not only in Russia, but everywhere. Trying to make them better? Yes. But constantly bothering about what is happening around the world?
                    1. vladimirZ
                      vladimirZ 7 March 2018 08: 17
                      +4
                      Nobody says that these are ideal and honest times. This is not only in Russia, but everywhere. Trying to make them better? Yes. But constantly bothering about what is happening around the world? - rounding

                      No, you say that now it’s better to leave things as they are, in this swamp of capitalism !!!
                      I affirm that a better life is possible, we had it, and we must do everything to return it!
                      There is a chance for this - to elect in the elections, though not honestly rigged by the authorities, but with a maximum turnout sufficient to prevent these frauds, to choose a worthy candidate of the left forces, the people - Pavel Grudinin, who can begin the path of revival of our socially just state. The path to justice lies in a small step to go and vote for the popular candidate Grudinin, and not for the candidate of oligarchs and corrupt officials Putin.
                      You are satisfied with this rotten predatory capitalism, in which only a small handful of scammers live who have plundered our country. I'm not happy. In this we do not converge and do not converge, non-colleague.
                      1. Okolotochny
                        Okolotochny 7 March 2018 12: 40
                        +7
                        No, you say that now it’s better to leave things as they are, in this swamp of capitalism !!!

                        Who will change, Grudinin? How, with whom? Do you know everything about him? For 6 years, income is about 157 million rubles, 2 million per month, such as salary. This is not counting the real estate and the value of securities and shares of the founder in various companies. State farm with a land bank of 10-15 thousand hectares of land. Is he a hired director or owner? Example, a large AgroHolding in the Kuban, land not even near Moscow, a land bank of 110 thousand hectares, three of its elevators, a sugar factory, a meat factory, two new pig farms, 3 dairy complexes - and imported technologies and equipment were built at the STF and MTF, built from scratch. The team is about 6,5 thousand people. CEO salary tell you? 650 thousand per month. And this is an adequate salary. Question, State Farm Grudinin on strawberries raises such a salary for the general director? It’s funny to me. And such income from the sale of land near Moscow. That is, that land (which should feed us) is removed from agricultural use and sold for construction. Here, for a part (small) of this money, the kindergarten is built. Grudinin is still the largest owner of this economy. By communist? Oh yeah! Zyuganov knows about this. Of course. Answers questions simply - THIS IS A LIE. In 1996 people believed him, and he CHEERED. And do not excuse yourself with the fact that he did not want war. Semibankirshchina also ran into Putin. He was not afraid. This is briefly. And I have a question, the vast majority of the inhabitants of the country have not heard anything about a person, and he (essentially a mini-oligarch) is presented as a RESCUER. What is it like? And it’s very simple - they paid the necessary media and forward - gave birth to a competitor.
                      2. SOF
                        SOF 7 March 2018 12: 46
                        +4
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        I affirm that a better life is possible, we had it, and we must do everything to return it!

                        ... sorry to interfere ...
                        In the days of the Union (unfortunately - of the Ruinable) of the Free Republics, there were a lot of good, but not bad and bad. True, it was customary to speak of bad things quietly, in the kitchen or as about the dead — either good or not.
                        I emphasize - had a lot of good, which, from the small, you have listed in your "speech".
                        But I don’t understand how you are going to return it?
                        I will explain ... There was the Russian Empire .... then the revolution, with a bunch of victims .... the system was broken - they built a new one ... Then there was the Union .... in the 90s there was a relatively mild, but also a revolution, too with victims .... the system was also buried - a new one, starting from the mid-0s, only being built ....
                        What would you like??? Revolution again?
                        Among your colleagues, according to your revolutionary moods, at least on a near-stop scale, have you calculated the probable number of the population that needs to be sacrificed to your "grandiose" plans?
                        .... well, for a snack .... And after the revolution, you will immediately take away your passports, in the countryside, from the peasants, so that later in half a century they will return ... or you won’t return at all - agriculture needs to be raised, but young people - serve the city ... with wai fayami yes facebook
                      3. Lieutenant
                        Lieutenant 8 March 2018 14: 13
                        +3
                        Here you are conducting discussions, writing a lot of bukaf, teach us how to live, complain about the past. Why didn’t you keep your alliance at one time or did the sausage and calla turn out to be less tasty than you expected? The union has collapsed or your generation has skipped, you must remember the dashing 90s, but still cry "that everything was lost" calm down, stop watering our motherland! As a patriot of my country and remembering the 90s, changes for the better are very noticeable. If you have problems at home, solve them, and don’t cry about them near the transition with the face of a beggar!
                2. DMB_95
                  DMB_95 7 March 2018 16: 22
                  +4
                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  I’m just wondering, are you crying that Russia is dying under Putin ..... Grudinin will restore order? Do you seriously believe? A person without experience, without a team, authority will do better?

                  Imagine, it seems that "just the Non-Putinists" really believe in the genius of Grudinin .. It's not even funny already, damn it.
              3. emwave
                emwave 11 March 2018 13: 50
                0
                "Concerned oligarch", forgetting about his accounts and real estate over the hill - ha ha!
                This gentleman will not be president, do not console yourself.
            3. nickname7
              nickname7 6 March 2018 17: 16
              +15
              I fully support you and add that to judge a figure, you need not by the picture of the TV, but by deeds. The affairs of the team of managers and politicians are reflected, for example, in the statistics of industrial production and GDP growth, these things are very sad. And also, according to official statistics, by the age of 30, the Russian Federation will be among the poorest countries in the world, under fanfare and overturns.
              1. RLW77
                RLW77 6 March 2018 20: 23
                +12
                It’s ridiculous to read .... the country is a gas station)))) Putin’s all-around)))) showed cartoons)))) I with my guys worked on rolled rings back in 15-16 and sent them to Krassmash ... was on Makeeva and talked with designers, metallurgists, all the people who came up with the product # 1 Sarmat ... I tell you everything the president said is true and product # 1 is ready for the series))) And we build airplanes and missiles and submarines in Crimea on the "Sea "Build ships ... I saw it with my own eyes .. And Ulyanovsk works and in Irkutsk a plant was built for MS 21 ... everything works, everything moves ... And you continue to agitate for your "Strawberry King" But believe my words, not a single normal chairman of a state farm (collective farm) will go to the presidency))) he has no time, he needs to feed the country)))
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 6 March 2018 20: 45
                  +12
                  I tell you everything the president said is true and product # 1 is ready for the series))) And we are building planes and rockets and submarines and ships are being built on the Sea in Crimea ... I saw it with my own eyes .. - RLW77

                  You do not understand the main thing - they do not raise the country's economy with weapons! The production of weapons, which is absolutely necessary for the defense of the state, worsens its economic development. This is an axiom !!!
                  That’s why “the production of guns instead of butter”, and now it’s time to talk about bread, since more than 20,3 million people in Russia live below the poverty line (state statistics), 43 million pensioners live on an average pension of 12,6 tons. rub (2016), - should be strictly consistent with the life indicators of ordinary people.
                  As for your individual passages, such as "a plant was built in Moscow for MS 21 ..." - this is complete nonsense. In Irkutsk, the aircraft factory is constantly building light fighter-bombers, its workshops for "it is imprisoned." There is essentially nowhere to mass build the MS-21. In order to do this, it is necessary to reconstruct the workshops for the production of large aircraft.
                  As for the “strawberry king,” the initial prospects for the President of the state are not worse, but better than that of the former KGB lieutenant colonel who was fired for lack of prospects, who was carrying portfolios for his boss Sobchak and, as a matter of fact, still has not learned how to understand the leadership of the state. This is now indicated by all the failed indicators of the economic life of the state and people; which brought the country's foreign policy to complete isolation in the world; plunged Russia into a long-term unnecessary and costly civil war for us in Syria, with already great loss of life for Russian citizens; destroying the actual defense capability of Russia due to the thoughtless "reform" of its Army.
                  Learn to analytically understand the current political and economic events of the state, and draw the right conclusions from them, rather than interfere with everything in a heap.
                  1. RLW77
                    RLW77 6 March 2018 21: 23
                    +7
                    Bullshit of a bored intellectual))) this is what I call such passages))) You haven’t just tried to work for the country ... and at least just for yourself))) I and my comrades don’t roar all the time, but just work 16 hours a day without days off and holidays ... we don’t ask anyone for anything ... Work and you will have everything))))) And to write comments well, this is not serious
                    1. freddyk
                      freddyk 6 March 2018 22: 35
                      +10
                      RLW77, but not 24 hours, what kind of patriot are you? By 16, guest workers work for us.
                      1. St Petrov
                        St Petrov 6 March 2018 23: 17
                        +7
                        RLW77, but not 24 hours, what kind of patriot are you? By 16, guest workers work for us.


                        is that how you communicate with the person who forges our shield?

                        but look, joked and you like another "amateur" Rossiushki

                        I generally go to the opposition on this site. Something is going wrong here.

                        Or should I not worry, are you just believers in Paul? lol
                      2. Svarog
                        Svarog 8 March 2018 06: 28
                        +7
                        Quote: freddyk
                        RLW77, but not 24 hours, what kind of patriot are you? By 16, guest workers work for us.

                        laughing hi damn .. after your comment a fit of laughter uncontrolled seized me laughing hi
                    2. St Petrov
                      St Petrov 6 March 2018 22: 39
                      +6
                      Delirium of a bored intellectual


                      But believe my words, not a single normal chairman of a state farm (collective farm) will go to the presidency))) he has no time, he needs to feed the country)))


                      laughing how capaciously did you paint

                      I tell you everything that the president said is true and product # 1 is ready for production


                      drinks any patriot of the state will be happy about this event.

                      The rest suffer and repent

                    3. Freeman
                      Freeman 7 March 2018 01: 52
                      +3
                      RLW77 Yesterday, 21:23 PM
                      My comrades and I don’t roar that it’s all gone, we just work 16 hours a day, without days off and holidays ...

                      stop Someone fiercely violates the Labor Code, or "star".
                      Although on the "watch" everything is possible. Therefore, the "employer" loves her so, preferring the "shift workers" to local personnel.
                    4. vladimirZ
                      vladimirZ 7 March 2018 04: 23
                      +7
                      Bullshit of a bored intellectual))) this is what I call such passages))) You have not tried to just work for the country ... and at least just for yourself))) - RLW77

                      The young man, RLW77, I have already worked my way, I am already in the second half of the seventieth, with many years of disability and a bunch of diseases. You do not have to work, but you have to live your life worrying for your children and grandchildren in this ruthless capitalist world, where elementary human rights to work and decent rest are not guaranteed for them, others that were once guaranteed to us by the socialist state.
                      The fact that you "work for 16 hours" without knowing the normal rest necessary for a person to work, violating basic norms, "without days off and holidays" is your TROUBLE, it will certainly affect your health and longevity in the future. This is not a prophecy - it is a simple logic of life, the so-called "diaphoretic system of work" that violates the healthy lifestyle of a working person.
                      I am truly sorry for yours. You are a victim of the existing capitalist system of power, which has not yet understood this. The time will come to understand.
              2. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 7 March 2018 07: 57
                +4
                And, according to official statistics, by the age of 30, the Russian Federation will be among the poorest countries in the world, under fanfare and change.

                Please provide the facts of your statement.
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 7 March 2018 08: 30
                  +3
                  And also, according to official statistics, by the age of 30, the Russian Federation will be among the poorest countries in the world, under fanfare and overturns.
                  - Please provide the facts of your statement. - rounding

                  You are blind, what facts do you need? If now the state statistics say that we have 20,3 million people living below the official poverty line - below the subsistence level!
                  43 million pensioners receive pensions of 12,6 thousand rubles average for 2016, which are IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE !!!
                  Tens of thousands of industrial enterprises are closed. Millions of unemployed, the official figure of about 5 million people.
                  In Russia, it is noted as a phenomenon - working people receiving a salary below the subsistence minimum, below the vital threshold of survival!
                  Putin has no plans to withdraw the country and people from this situation. What progress can we talk about by 2030?
                  Think what you write. Do not know the real facts about the development of the economy in Russia, look on the Internet - all this is there, both articles and videos of economists, analysts, political scientists who reveal the problems of Russia's economic "development" under Putin.
                  And do not ask, "show the facts of your statement," and literate yourself you can find them on the Internet, there is plenty of information. And if this is your fake and stbalovo, then you do not have a place in a serious discussion of the problem - this is a simple trolling, working out the dough paid to you.
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 7 March 2018 23: 00
                    +5
                    Already, 20 million are below the poverty line. I look at the book I see .... it's about you. For people like you, there were twice as many in the early 2000s. You did not mention this. This is not a fact from you, but thimbles, a game of swindlers.
                    And pearl - tens of thousands of enterprises closed. You do not draw on FBK Old? Under Putin, did they close? You are an ordinary sharpie who brainlessly plays with numbers. You and Sobchak and Yavlinsky will find a common language. There’s nothing more to talk about with you.
              3. Lieutenant
                Lieutenant 8 March 2018 14: 15
                0
                You probably know better from under the American flag ??!))
            4. 11 black
              11 black 8 March 2018 12: 31
              0
              Quote: vladimirZ
              And 6 years, if Putin reappears as President, it will be Russia's misfortune, like those that were during the 18 years when he was in power. For the people, nothing will change for the better, it will only. worse. You are blind and illiterate. Then you will remember Putin, as now Yeltsin and Gorbachev, but it will be too late!

              The trouble for Russia was when the communist Gorbachev came to power ... when the communists allowed the collapse of the USSR it was also a disaster for the country, and the victory of capitalism.
              Putin is not perfect - but he does a lot of the right things, so I will vote for him.
              Quote: vladimirZ
              I’ll vote, as a communist who never betrayed the Oath, for the leftist forces and their candidate Pavel Grudinin - the only candidate who can lead Russia out of the quarter-century political and economic crisis that the country has fallen into because of Putin.

              Will you vote for a candidate who does not share your faith in communism? Attention - Grudinin is NOT a communist, he does not see the future for Russia in communism, he is just a candidate from the Communist Party and one of the representatives of the very oligarchy ... by the way about the oligarchs.
              Look - in Europe / USA - in truly capitalist countries, this system has long ago returned to normal operation, in which everyone is happy. I am talking about trade unions. The fact that it costs the oligarchs there to “tighten the screws” a bit — as the population doesn’t “sulk and gundos” about this in all kinds of forums - it starts a union strike in several cities - this is their Western reality, and the oligarchs cannot do anything with it !
              So easily and naturally you can get rid of the oligarchy - not the government, but we ourselves must do it. This is the reality of the capitalist system, in which people of Soviet hardening are completely uneducated and do not know how, but they shout disgusting about a good, in general, state system that once won communism.
              In capitalism, it is customary for workers to join effective trade unions and stand for each other - this is their reality. Only in this way can an oligarchy be turned into capitalism. Only in this way can the system be balanced and live better than in communism. And the oligarch will not be able to do anything with the union, which includes tens of thousands of people who are ready to start a strike at a hundred or two enterprises - the history of capitalism has proved that even the most inveterate oligarch will be with existing unions (and not the unscrupulous profanity that we have now) I have to reckon with it - but our citizens of the "old Soviet school" do not understand this, they just whine about power and wait for the wizard in a blue helicopter ... but we just need to create active trade unions, which is more than realistic with our social services. networks - but people, our people, for the most part, are not ready for this or do not understand the obvious - they are waiting for the wizard and scolding the authorities for not realizing that capitalism has decided to defend their interests and those of the same people in trade unions and will have to reckon with you, but no , waiting for the wizard ... and finally one old, but reflecting the essence of the above quote.
              Quote: Harold Macmillan
              There are three organizations that no reasonable person will challenge. These are the Roman Catholic Church, the Royal Guard and the National Miners Union. (1894 – 1986)

              Until we understand this and learn to defend our interests in the capitalist system, we really will have an oligarchy, but IMHO even this is not much worse than socialism.
            5. Barabashka 68
              Barabashka 68 9 March 2018 06: 53
              0
              “Do not mix Russia and V. Putin.” - dear, Putin is elected by the majority and he represents this RUSSIAN majority.
              As the swearing-in, I must remind you that we gave it to the people, and promised our people to defend the constitutional system. In 90, some people forgot about this part, although he wore a red booklet. And personally, I can offer you to start shelling out with yourself, are you the same citizen as the notorious oligarchs, or do you like another expropriation? I can only add that the goal of communism and liberalism is the same - globalization, and judging by how the Komi merged in ecstasy with Grudinin, the representative of the very oligarchy, the masks were dropped.
              I feel sorry for you; you live neither of which you see around you.
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 9 March 2018 08: 17
                0
                I feel sorry for you; you live neither of which you see around you. - Barabashka 68

                I feel sorry for you that you only eat rotten meat from the news prepared in the power oligarchic media, and you don’t know what is really happening in the country. You do not know how to analyze and draw conclusions from the ongoing political and economic events.
                You can’t even easily distinguish between political categories such as liberalism and communism, mixing them into one pile of some kind of “globalism.”, Without understanding the essence of either one or the other.
          3. flicker
            flicker 6 March 2018 14: 41
            +11
            St Petrov
            hold the pie. nicely worked. Putin specially for you, an adult child, showed cartoons. Yes
            This is the whole trick: they (Russophobes, the nephews of the rabbi, and other all-crawlers) give out REALITY for CARTOONS yes What a breakthrough our scientists and designers made, that it still seems to be MULTIC. The Pentagon does not deny this yes but groans: a gas station couldn’t do such a thing -
            go on, scrapping the mental pattern thing seems very painful ... smile
          4. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 7 March 2018 00: 34
            +3
            Colleague, well, a screen photo of the "star" in general in the subject.
        2. AUL
          AUL 6 March 2018 17: 09
          +13
          Quote: vladimirZ
          I did not understand the article, either a subtle mockery of the President’s really shocking “cartoons” before the Federal Assembly, or his glorification for the “sophisticated” secret developments of the military-industrial complex, as if providing Russia with a calm future? Putin’s “cunning plan” again?
          The meaning of the article is that our glorious bodies have learned how to protect the state. a secret and other secrets that no one needs to know when hitting. For example, the people began to live wonderful with us, but it’s such a secret that he (the people) don’t even know about it1
        3. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 6 March 2018 21: 09
          +2
          I agree with you. But I want to believe that not everything is so rotten.
    3. Andrey Panov
      Andrey Panov 6 March 2018 15: 37
      +4
      You, my dear, are not going anywhere from Mars! For people to have money, they must have work. Or Lada fill the whole planet? Not, Vyatka, washing machines! In which industry can you create jobs for 50 years in advance, can you tell me? Yes, a lot more. Or maybe we’ll reduce the people?
    4. zenion
      zenion 8 March 2018 15: 21
      +2
      You need to solve domestic problems, and the head of state is state. Stalin always cared about the state. Around to hell with envious, and in the country to a fig of enemies.
  2. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 6 March 2018 07: 33
    +8
    Ideas, unfortunately, are all from the 80s ...
    But the result is definitely good!
    All the familiar boys graduating from school, I agitate to go to the engineers - after all, objectively, the next "iron" age begins.
    1. Nikolay73
      Nikolay73 6 March 2018 10: 38
      0
      NRE is an idea from the 60s (according to Wicca), you have to be an engineer, like a doctor and teacher, I'm talking about the mindset ...
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 6 March 2018 10: 42
      +7
      Support.
      I am engaged in robotics with these boys as part of further education. Interest such - carcasses of light.
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 6 March 2018 07: 42
    +13
    Wait and see. We were promised a lot of things over the past 30-35 years, but somehow with the implementation it’s not very good.
    Hopefully, things are moving off the ground.
  4. Geterosigma
    Geterosigma 6 March 2018 08: 00
    +5
    oh well, Yura, you were completely dreaming right here))). In fact, it’s time it would be time to surprise domestic politics with such a breakthrough.
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 6 March 2018 09: 57
      +17
      Half of the president’s speech to the Federal Assembly was de facto addressed to the Americans. In such circumstances, comforting oneself with hopes that a person who has turned a blind eye to Russia's domestic policy for 18 years will suddenly see clearly - the height of optimism.
      1. Geterosigma
        Geterosigma 6 March 2018 14: 47
        +8
        but I have no optimism; I will not vote for him in the elections.
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 6 March 2018 17: 19
        +5
        Half of Presidential Speech to Federal Assembly De facto Addressed to Americans
        What other Americans? This is an election program addressed to the electorate.
        1. forty-eighth
          forty-eighth 6 March 2018 17: 25
          +14
          He never thought of the electorate in his life. Cubans are closer to him, Venezuelans, Kyrgyz. Recently, he gave the Kazakhs a lake, again. And for Russians, he has in store increases in retirement age, gas prices, overhaul fees and a new tax on baths and sheds.
          1. 11 black
            11 black 8 March 2018 19: 23
            +1
            Quote: forty-eighth
            He never thought of the electorate in his life.

            When rescuing the Crimeans from the Nazi trash probably slept and saw Venezuela ...
            - I wonder how much trolls are paying now?
            1. vladafer
              vladafer 8 March 2018 20: 57
              +2
              So tell us how much they pay you for this?
              1. 11 black
                11 black 8 March 2018 21: 49
                0
                Quote: vladafer
                So tell us how much they pay you for this?

                What exactly is it for? For trolling salary trolls? - ah, if I were paid for it fellow
  5. savage1976
    savage1976 6 March 2018 08: 14
    +8
    Well, not over Chelyabinsk a couple of years ago, the test passed ....
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 6 March 2018 12: 36
      +1
      Quote: savage1976
      Well, not over Chelyabinsk a couple of years ago, the test passed ....

      that interception was of a different type and it was without a nuclear engine ... it even seemed to someone that it had descended from the 5th parallel yes
      the interceptor is of interest and here you can really talk about "other physical principles"
  6. faiver
    faiver 6 March 2018 08: 20
    +3
    Despite the whole seeming mess
    - it is not apparent, remove the pink glasses hi

    it remains to sing - we were born to make a fairy tale come true ....
    1. Ace Tambourine
      Ace Tambourine 6 March 2018 09: 09
      +5
      We were born to make even the most terrible tale come true ...
  7. Loess
    Loess 6 March 2018 08: 21
    +1
    Despite the whole seeming mess, the feeling of which is actively fueled by part of the media and the metropolitan party, to the constant boil of passions on the Internet, endless emissions and stuffing of all kinds of fakes and outright nonsense

    Well, what to take with them, if they are so none that they even agreed to go to the Olympics without their own flag and hymn.

    ostentatiously noisy fuss around the Russian Academy of Sciences, started exactly at the moment when Putin's strategic projects were in full swing, with all its obscure discussions about nothing

    Yeah ... In the "big game" there is no place for emotions, only the end result is important.
    It is not by chance that Putin promised a decade of brilliant victories to Russia in one of his recent speeches. And it seems that it has already begun.
  8. Palagecha
    Palagecha 6 March 2018 08: 45
    +6
    “I know that the city will be, I know, the garden is in bloom ...” When there are such people in the Russian country! Advanced transport communications will penetrate the whole Mars, rocket caravans stretch toward it, it will be covered with a network of zoos, hospitals and representative offices of parliamentary parties. each colonist’s family will have a gramophone!
  9. cedar
    cedar 6 March 2018 08: 47
    +10
    "... It is no coincidence that in one of his recent speeches Putin promised Russia a decade of brilliant victories. And, it seems, it has already begun."

    Do not “wash yourself,” dear ones. Victories themselves do not come, all the more vivid. So it will be necessary to harness and strain to the fullest, and all. Free bread and circuses do not shine for us. I hope the “comedy club” and so forth are “big top” in politics and culture, will disappear from our horizon and we will finally see the great goals of great Russia.
    1. FID
      FID 6 March 2018 09: 06
      +15
      Quote: cedar
      Free bread and circuses do not shine for us.

      Excuse me, does paid work shine for us? Or is work a sight to behold?
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 6 March 2018 12: 51
        +2
        Quote: SSI
        Or is work a sight to behold?

        it’s interesting how they will continue to try to control beyond the hillock everything that they generate is a house ... it’s not a joke here, it can scatter everyone like that, it won’t seem enough
      2. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 7 March 2018 04: 56
        +2
        Quote: SSI
        Or is work a sight to behold?

        Firefighters, communal services and riot police clearly laughing
        Hi drinks
      3. 11 black
        11 black 8 March 2018 19: 29
        0
        Quote: SSI
        Excuse me, does paid work shine for us? Or is work a sight to behold?

        And it depends on ourselves much more than on the President or anyone else.
        Considering that the vast majority of people in our country cannot live in a capitalist system, they do not understand the importance of strong and independent trade unions (especially immigrants from the USSR) - we will not have paid work for a long time, and we are to blame for this in the first place.
  10. kit88
    kit88 6 March 2018 08: 52
    +19
    Unsuccessful launches of spacecraft - this means a cover operation. And the long-suffering Vostochny spaceport with its endless financial scandals is a distracting maneuver.
    So I get it. Well, if according to the author, our astronauts are already with one foot on Mars.
    However. This is the scale! This is a gambit! What Mars is here!
    Perhaps ours are already flying in the sun. :)
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 6 March 2018 13: 09
      +6
      . A long-suffering spaceport "Vostochny" with its endless financial scandals


      these scandals were specially covered for you in the media - so that you suffer more. But the Cosmodrome was built, and the next batch of survivors went on stage and the workers still received salaries.

      Perhaps ours are already flying in the sun. :)


      I hope you are represented in this crew.
      1. kit88
        kit88 6 March 2018 16: 23
        +10
        "... I hope you are represented on this carriage"
        You what ?! Do you think fools are sitting in the Politburo ?! - We’ll fly at night! (with).
        And of course Eastern built. But is the corruption component too large in the estimate?
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 6 March 2018 23: 27
          +3
          But is the corruption component too large in the estimate?


          what's the difference this is the work of investigators. I do not judge from my couch about the work of designers. Doctors. Officials. I do not teach to drive a driver, I do not climb with advice to the worker.

          I will leave it to competent people.

          I do not belong to the caste of professionals in everything at once. Alas, I am not endowed with the mind of the Queen or Einstein. Therefore, everything is modest with me.

          I can’t answer right away whether it’s a lot. I can’t even say with what to compare. Probably with all the project cost - but alas, I don’t know it (and I’m not interested in finding out, I don’t play detective after work and I don’t go to Yandex to find out this information)

          But apparently you calculated everything, compared it with that conclusion.
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 6 March 2018 17: 31
        +6
        And the Cosmodrome is built
        If they hadn’t arrested the effective ones, they would have revealed everything, to the last bolt. One of the main managers was already caught by the hand, but instead of Magadan, they raised him. As a result, there were problems - reputational losses, losses, an increase in the construction period.
        the next batch of survivors went through the stage
        Not too much, whether the price is expensive, at first to set thieves, and then to plant.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 6 March 2018 23: 31
          +3
          Not too much, whether the price is expensive, at first to set thieves, and then to plant.


          in America, everything is different. don't steal, huh?

          in America, they first fly to the future, look at what happened, and then they return and immediately screen thieves?

          Or do you need to immediately plant 50% of the contract, so that just in case, anyway, someone steals?
  11. kaschey
    kaschey 6 March 2018 08: 58
    +19
    “I want to note that it was possible to provide effective operational counterintelligence cover for these large-scale projects,” Putin said. He thanked everyone who participated in this responsible, complex work. "
    “It’s no coincidence that in one of his recent speeches Putin promised Russia a decade of brilliant victories. And, it seems, it has already begun.”
    Counterintelligence cover you say, well, let's live another ten years in counterintelligence cover.
    Tales of a gray bull.
    There is no normal aviation, but it’s about counterintelligence cover, the fool understands that this message is election campaigning .......
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 6 March 2018 13: 18
      +7
      There is no normal aviation, and he’s talking about counterintelligence cover, the fool understands that this message is election campaigning .......


      Tell me more amazing stories, a resident of Belarus.

      It is a pity that those who like are not visible.

      forum is always very dirty before the elections
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 6 March 2018 13: 50
        +2
        The Zagrudinites are crying, and he is insulted that Belarus will receive fewer loans from Russia. We need to work for ourselves, and not fight.
        1. kaschey
          kaschey 6 March 2018 15: 20
          +3
          Announce the entire list of the results of YOUR work, dear "hard worker". Please
          1. woron333444
            woron333444 6 March 2018 16: 16
            +1
            I earned myself a normal pension and don’t cry that pensioners live poorly. He worked in Russian Railways as a railway driver for railway construction vehicles.
            1. kaschey
              kaschey 6 March 2018 16: 48
              +5
              Did someone tell you or is it known for certain that Belarusians are taking your pension from you?
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 6 March 2018 17: 29
                +5
                kaschey, when you learn how to work with your head, we will discuss with you the topic of subsidies in Belarus from the Russian Federation.

                You will also tell me about the aviation of the Republic of Belarus, compare it with the leaky aviation of the Russian Federation, we will discuss pensions, the price of gasoline, the price of oil that you are driven to process and much more

                Tell me in general about your independence and your self-sufficiency


                1. kaschey
                  kaschey 6 March 2018 21: 33
                  +4
                  Head need to think, not work.
                  Oh yes, I did not answer your criticism of my opinion on this topic.
                  Judging by the criticism, it hurt.
                  I think this is not the time to find out now, Belarus is mourning for those killed in a plane crash in Syria with Russia.
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 6 March 2018 17: 36
        +7
        Mr. Petrov Tell me more amazing stories, a resident of Belarus
        And why are you picking on nationality and personality, because this is the most base level. For this you have to ban. They discuss the topic, not the individual.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 6 March 2018 18: 11
          +7
          And why are you picking on nationality and personality, because this is the most base level. For this you have to ban. They discuss the topic, not the individual.


          Are you OK?
          I got attached to NATIONALITY? laughing

          resident of Belarus clings to the videoconferencing of my country

          There is no normal aviation


          And am I for having stuck with this story, getting a comment from a user flying the US flag? laughing

          Well, now is spring, apparently the aggravation and intensified struggle for democracy, pluralism and multiculturalism from the owners of the US flag has begun, well, at least they did not blame authoritarianism for the lack of democracy and liberalism in my posts.

          American. Belarusians do not lynch at us, do not shoot and do not distinguish from themselves wassat You can be calm and drive by with democracy. It's all right, the 6th fleet is not needed
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 8 March 2018 06: 44
            +7
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            Well, now is spring, apparently the aggravation and intensified struggle for democracy, pluralism and multiculturalism from the owners of the US flag has begun, well, at least they did not blame authoritarianism for the lack of democracy and liberalism in my posts. Belarusians do not lynch with us, do not shoot and do not distinguish themselves from yourself. You can be calm and go by with democracy. It's all right, the 6th fleet is not needed

            Eh Petrov, I read your comments and see that I’ve become really bad .. you are burned out at work ... and began to worry about your psyche ... somehow thoughts randomly jump at you .. Relax, dear .. take a vacation .. hi
  12. Alex_59
    Alex_59 6 March 2018 09: 12
    +25
    In the meantime, Putin's strategic pawn confidently, but at the same time, quietly and imperceptibly, went to queens. And still got it! Exactly when it was planned.
    Pathos. I collect the victories of our government. Here is an excerpt from the list:
    1. Rename police to police
    2. Move time zones
    3. Plato system (as if little transport tax and excise taxes on fuel)
    4. Return the "Sh" sign to cars - driving helps drivers
    5. Payment of overhaul - all our fees.
    6. Calculate pensions in points, not in rubles (for some reason I give rubles, not points)
    7. Exactions in the form of paid parking in the city center (well, this is our small town, in other cities there may be no)
    8. Russiano and "there is no money but you hold on" is the humor of the 80 level, yeah.
    9. Prohibit the sale of antibiotics without a prescription (stand in a line of sneezers, wait for a doctor or in a paid clinic)
    10.Make street artists pay taxes and buy patents (you have nothing else to do there, but in the State Duma?)
    Quarreled with the whole world, we have only Venezuela allies. Import substitution - zilch. Skolkovo - zilch. A kindergarten is given to a child only through a court of law, and for some reason fines are automatically paid, money leaves the bank account themselves. We have been building guard ships for 10 years, although in Soviet times this was done for 1,5 years. Ukraine profuca, Crimea did not plan to return - he surrendered himself. But we help Assad - we are kind. And so on.
    And now I have to sell it all for crookedly painted pictures of some rackets in Photoshop? Guys, come on ...
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 6 March 2018 10: 46
      +3
      To sell? Nobody offers to "sell" anything.
      If, specifically, someone doesn’t need all this, but something else is needed, they usually choose a country where it is necessary. They go there and live.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 6 March 2018 11: 26
        +10
        Quote: Mestny
        To sell? Nobody offers to "sell" anything.

        It seemed to me that Putin needed my voice. Perhaps it seemed to me. But if it didn’t seem, then it looks like he wants to convince me that the picture of a rocket in Photoshop is more important than my child, to whom I take out a place in a kindergarten through a court.
        Quote: Mestny
        but something else is needed - usually they choose a country where it is as it should.

        Type "if you don’t like it." Already passed. I want it to be cool here. I love Homeland (which is not a synonym for "I love Putin")
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 6 March 2018 14: 34
          +2
          Need a voice? No, not needed.
          If we are talking about the price - then yes, everything has a "price". For some things, the “price” is far from their intended purpose.
          And of course, we have a free country, whether or not everyone will vote as they decide. By the way, let’s see how many really dissatisfied there are.
          Or say the results are rigged?
    2. Blue fox
      Blue fox 6 March 2018 12: 22
      +1
      To the point, colleague, to the point.
    3. yuriyselivanov
      15 March 2018 12: 48
      0
      Get shot. The best way out!
  13. Dimka75
    Dimka75 6 March 2018 09: 12
    +11
    article - veiled banter
    IMHO
    1. vlad_vlad
      vlad_vlad 6 March 2018 10: 22
      +10
      not, wrote sincerely. but it turned banter, because with reality outside the window does not match.
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 6 March 2018 10: 48
        +2
        Ага.
        The reality outside the window - it is the most natural, the only existing reality.
        And in general, as fans of flat land, honest bloggers and democratic journalists say, America does not exist, and the earth is flat. Which confirms the view from the window.
        1. vlad_vlad
          vlad_vlad 6 March 2018 11: 01
          +1
          I didn’t mean it, but your thought is interesting.
          "all I see is all untrue
          all that I hear is all set off. "
          I, I am a naturlech - do not believe your eyes.
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    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 6 March 2018 10: 15
      +8
      Quote: omit
      Dmitry Bykov

      Peeing poems, and shy of his last name ... "Russian writer"
      Dmitry Lvovich Zilbertrud!

      Fat vile Zilbertrud
      Wasteland and verbiage!
    2. andj61
      andj61 6 March 2018 10: 29
      +5
      Quote: omit
      Dmitry Bykov
      He and They

      And what remains of this Bykov sitting on Western grants? Just joke!
      Well, let it quail! Since 2004, Putin has been talking about a hypersonic cruise missile and about the new Sarmat ICBM, and not so long ago there was, most likely, a deliberate leak about an underwater drone. In the USA, those who are in the know do not joke at all. On the contrary, they say that they basically knew this.
      The article, in truth, is too sarcastic. And where the truth ends, and the crap begins, it is not clearly defined. But to say that everything is in order with space, that a decade of victories begins with it - this is, to put it mildly, presumptuous! hi
    3. Mestny
      Mestny 6 March 2018 10: 50
      +3
      Why did you try so hard?
      I would simply write - you hate Russians, Russia and Putin personally.
    4. amirbek
      amirbek 6 March 2018 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: omit
      The scene depicts a collection of enthusiastic people.

      deja vu ... time flew by too quickly crying
    5. faradien
      faradien 7 March 2018 02: 47
      0
      Oh, how much a beech ... And what is it all about? ... What did you want to say?
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  15. ZHIGAN
    ZHIGAN 6 March 2018 11: 09
    +1
    Quote: savage1976
    Well, not over Chelyabinsk a couple of years ago, the test passed ....

    What an idiot you have to be over a city with a millionaire test what you need to think with your head fool
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 6 March 2018 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: GIGAN
      What an idiot you have to be over a city with a millionaire test

      the comet was real ... the interceptor too ... all who wanted what - reached
  16. Old26
    Old26 6 March 2018 11: 28
    +10
    It was these particular technologies of absolute secrecy that accompanied the Soviet space program at one time, which allowed the Soviet Union to regularly drive Americans into a complete stupor.

    What does the drive into a stupor include? I know the only case when they really underestimated the Soviet space program was the launch of the first satellite. And the fact that the Soviet Union will launch a satellite within the framework of the IGY was known to the whole world, we talked about this at all scientific forums. They really then underestimated us, believing that we would do it in 1958-1959. Everything else has already been tracked.

    What else have we driven into a stupor? The fact that before they launched Gagarin? So this stupor quickly passed. That launched the first woman? Is there something incredible about this? Or is a woman not a man? All our cosmonautics was based on the priority of us. The first satellite, the first astronaut, the first woman, the first spacewalk, the first lunar rover. But at the time when the USSR collapsed, the Americans had already launched EMNIP three times as many astronauts as we and a much larger number of manned ships.

    And sorry for exploring distant planets - of course, we drove them into a stupor with our secrecy. Perhaps this is our "Voyagers" / "Pioneers" took pictures of Saturn, fly already beyond the borders of our solar system?

    Even our "successes." which, as you say, drove into a stupor were often the result of a banal race - someone who, who before. Knowing that the Americans are planning the launch of the Gemini with two astronauts, we are sending three into space. In the ship, for three people not calculated, only two. No spacesuits. What could this secrecy cost? This stupor, which we regularly introduced, how do you write Americans? Three corpses?
    Lucky. Got priority. The first multi-seater ship, for the first time without spacesuits (it later came around on Soyuz-11)

    He managed to make the whole world think about Russia and its capabilities a little different than it really is. In this he was very much helped by the still preserved traditions and the most experienced cadres of the once most closed country in the world, who perfectly mastered all the technologies of closing state special events of any scale and complexity.


    Honestly, all that the president voiced is a "discovery" for the crowd, for the people. And we check the reaction of the West by the reaction of their media, and not by what actually happens on their sidelines, at the headquarters .... There are many examples. The euphoria about the fact that the "Caliber" launched from the Caspian "suddenly" flew 1500 km. The media was already choking with delight, saying that we thought that she had a range of 300 km, and she turned out to be hoo, already 1500 km ....

    And what prevented these media outlets, these observers, if they position themselves as specialists in this field simply to monitor information on this subject ?? But nothing. But it’s easier not to do anything, and then, after such an event, to give a sensation, They say how, how we can keep secrets ... And the fact that about two years before that, the commander of the Caspian Flotilla in his interview about the end of the next exercises stated that anti-ship missiles hit the target at a distance of 375 km (the media was sure that 200, maximum 300 km, would not fly further), and missiles designed for firing along the coast hit the target at a distance of just over a thousand kilometers (the media was again confident that 300 is the limit). Moreover, he was then asked a question, but could he hit a target in the Persian Gulf or the Middle East. The answer was, but what's the problem?
    That is famous military experts from the media trivially missed. then in your reaction to the event, like you, I apologize in the article, made a bet on secrecy?

    And what is secrecy then? Is it that with modern means of communication, some cannot corny use open sources?

    What, the Dubna subdivision of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation did not talk about creating a new air-based hypersonic missile. The first info on this topic was EMNIP year so in 2013-2014. And it was voiced by the general designer of TRV.
    What, in the annual reports of the Turaevo Design Bureau there was no information that the development of a ramjet engine for this rocket was underway? Or that the enterprise is undergoing reconstruction and re-equipment of the enterprise, which should end by 2020, and before that, the company should produce up to 50 engines for this rocket per year? That was all. Even the amount of expenses has been calculated (for reconstruction - 1 billion 600 million). Similarly, for all others.

    And if we are told something, we don’t perceive it, we don’t hear this info. And as soon as the president said, it became the ultimate truth and we begin to say: That damn what secrecy we have, we did not even guess what it is, but it ....

    Tell me how you can maintain absolute secrecy in a situation where tens and hundreds of thousands of people, dozens of factories are involved. Something always climbs out. Moreover, in many ways, under the same contracts, materials must be exhibited on the public procurement website ....

    And if one of such already planned Putin’s surprises is a solemn meeting of the participants of the Martian expedition, Ilon Mask, Russian astronauts who have already settled on Mars, then I won’t be too surprised

    And I will be surprised by the described event. There are no miracles. We have been engaged in Angora for almost 2 decades, while sweeping away other projects, and our opponent is doing the job. Several ships, new carriers. This year we planned about 23-25 ​​launches, the Chinese about 40, but only Ilon plans to launch only its carriers somewhere in the region of 30-40.

    And after that there is a dream that we will be on Mars before the Americans ????. This is not serious, we have not yet invented the magic wand

    Despite the whole seeming mess, the feeling of which is actively fueled by part of the media

    Do you think that we don’t have a mess, and his feeling is a result of heating from part of the media? Are you so naive?

    Quote: siberalt
    In his message, the GDP noted that Russia needs to be "stitched" with a transport line. It’s already clear that the auto crossing on the Crimean bridge will open much earlier than the announced deadline. And the "transport line" can stretch to Moldova. Everything has its time. winked

    And most likely he talked about the fact that the Trans-Siberian Railway alone is no longer enough and it is necessary to carry out the "second line". These are realities, and not the transport line to Moldova ... Already the very Egyptians, realizing that the channel is not coping, made the second channel. And in fact, in addition to the Trans-Siberian Railway, we have no high-capacity transport artery. So the "line" - in relation to the internal highways ...

    Quote: kit88
    Perhaps ours are already flying in the sun. :)

    What fly there .... Day. Burned out. Fly at night .... good
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 6 March 2018 14: 28
      +4
      We have one interesting feature in Russia - for the most part, we categorically do not believe what our own authorities are saying, are constantly dissatisfied with what is happening in this country, and we consider the West to be extremely truthful, capable of any kind of technical miracle, super-civilization. So it was the last 300 years.
      For this reason, in particular, any reports of new types of weapons immediately cause a storm of ridicule and disbelief not in the Western press, but in ours.
      Actually now the situation with the message is exactly the same, only the intensity of ridicule and unbelief has grown significantly., In accordance with the "weight" of the message.
      By the way, our “partners” are counting on this - that once again we will break everything with our own hands.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 6 March 2018 23: 10
        +5
        Quote: Mestny
        Honestly, all that the president voiced is a "discovery" for the crowd, for the people. And we check the reaction of the West by the reaction of their media, and not by what is actually happening on their sidelines, at headquarters ...

        - Dad, you say family is a small state. And who are you?!
        - President, of course!
        - And mom ?!
        - The power.
        - And grandmother ?!
        - FSB!
        - And who am I?
        - And you ... you are the people!
        An hour later, Vovochka calls his father to work: - Mr. President, another president has come to power, the FSB is sleeping, and the people are worried!
  17. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 6 March 2018 11: 54
    +2
    ** and demonstratively noisy fuss around the Russian Academy of Sciences, started exactly at the moment when Putin's strategic projects were in full swing, with all its obscure discussions about nothing, could also be a stage play, under which the curtain of Russian scientists and designers got the opportunity work fruitfully **

    That speaks of the true role of the Academy in the country: in order to achieve some breakthroughs, it had to be taken out of the game.
  18. Semen1972
    Semen1972 6 March 2018 13: 59
    +12
    I don’t know ... Putin’s pre-election speech is again presented as stunning, ingenious, shocking, frightening ... the authors compete in epithets .. But what in the end, then? Did America somehow change its plans? Came out of Syria, no. Someone sat down to negotiate with us, no. The Russians began to live better, no. Friends of Pu and he himself will live like a king in the coming years, YES. People, instead of a president who promises justice and recovery, vote for the one that shows cartoons about missiles, this is staggering ... But the speech is secondary, as the author himself noted .. Munich-2. It’s the same as victory in Syria-2, how to overcome the crisis in 2 years -2 and the growth of GDP-2.. Everything is secondary and boring .. and the people are simpletons, I didn’t learn to remove noodles .. it’s a pity, the Soviet past remains, faith in of people..
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 6 March 2018 14: 22
      +3
      Son, did you see the president’s message? Or so, on the internet?
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 6 March 2018 15: 33
        +7
        Yes, father, it’s impossible to listen to the whole speech ... if I were sitting in the Kremlin, then yes, I would clap my mouth, or I would sit as a pensioner and in a rocking chair ... and I worked that day .. .or maybe it would be a Kremlin troll, then it would have to .. And so I looked at the main points in the recording, I caught the essence. Imagine .. you can see the squeeze .. that's what progress has come to !!!
        1. faradien
          faradien 7 March 2018 02: 57
          0
          Quote: Semen1972
          ... if he were sitting at the salary in the Kremlin ... or maybe he would be the Kremlin’s troll, then he would have to ..

          That don’t, your salary from Langley is dripping, I’ve probably already driven it to the green card, diligent fellow wassat laughing
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 7 March 2018 10: 27
            +3
            Quote: faradien
            That don’t, your salary from Langley is dripping, I’ve probably already driven it to the green card, diligent fellow wassat laughing

            If this could be done on a green card .... it would be the most popular site in the WORLD))) All patriots would have lived in Miami)))
            1. faradien
              faradien 7 March 2018 22: 33
              0
              Quote: Semen1972
              ... All patriots would have lived in Miami)))

              So to send these "patriots" directly to the "Miami", let them patriotize for a new homeland there bully
              1. Semen1972
                Semen1972 12 March 2018 13: 59
                0
                Quote: faradien
                So to send these "patriots" directly to the "Miami", let them patriotize for a new homeland there

                There will be too many who wish, I'm afraid the locals will then have nowhere to live)))
                1. faradien
                  faradien 12 March 2018 22: 17
                  0
                  Quote: Semen1972
                  Quote: faradien
                  So to send these "patriots" directly to the "Miami", let them patriotize for a new homeland there

                  There will be too many who wish, I'm afraid the locals will then have nowhere to live)))

                  Here they are what are the current "patriots" what lol negative The main thing is that there are fewer stop
  19. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 6 March 2018 14: 18
    +5
    one of those already planned Putin’s surprises will be a solemn meeting of the participants of the Martian expedition, Ilon Mask, Russian astronauts who have already settled on Mars

    Houses have already put things in order, now let's take up Mars
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 7 March 2018 01: 26
      +2
      Bulrumeb Yesterday, 14:18 p.m.
      Houses have already put things in order, now we will take up Mars.

      You can begin to restore order in the house from Mars.

      At least 10 settlements in the Russian Federation are named after Mars, 2 of which are located in Bashkortostan, and one each in the Voronezh, Kaluga, Kirov, Kurgan, Nizhny Novgorod, Oryol and Rostov regions.
      The closest to Moscow is Mars, located in the Ruza district of the Moscow region.
      1. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 7 March 2018 14: 00
        +1
        as they say in your mouth honey, but something tells me that it was not our Mars that were meant.
  20. Mestny
    Mestny 6 March 2018 14: 21
    +2
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Do not mix Russia and V. Putin. These are different categories. Or are you likened to Volodin from the Duma, who is exhaustively stupidly shouting that Putin is Russia? Not true. Russia is not Putin!

    Lies. And from the first to the last word.
    Every citizen of Russia is Russia. Putin is not just a citizen, but the President.
    There are such figures in the history of the car who assured that Russia or the USSR is not power, but by itself. (apparently power from the planet Mars).
    Probably by coincidence, all these people, according to the results, fought precisely with Russia.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 7 March 2018 05: 13
      +3
      There are such figures in the history of the car who assured that Russia or the USSR is not power, but by itself. - Mestny

      "We are Nicholas II the autocrat of Russia" is Russia? Well, do not tell the more literate and educated people with their ignorance and ignorance !!!
      Never, not a single ruler, the leader of Russia-USSR was Russia-USSR. People never even talked about this, even with the so-called “personality cult IV Stalin,” when there really was a Great State Personality STALIN, who made the second world industrial superpower out of the backward peasant state of the peasants, which withstood the blow of all of fascist Europe, creating in short timing after the war, a nuclear shield for the country and people, and who prepared the first to go into space.
      And here is a man who brought the country over the years of his reign, comparable already with the Stalinist ones, to many years of economic, and you can already speak of political crises, complete world isolation - “Russia” ?!
      Well, don’t make people laugh with your naivety and illiteracy.
  21. Grandfather Talash
    Grandfather Talash 6 March 2018 15: 08
    +8
    What euphoria ... You don’t have to think up something supernatural, otherwise you can come to the conclusion that bad roads in Russia are a cover for Russian developments in hyperspace movements ... Hurray, comrades !!)) ... It is easier for an average person to look at the whole picture ... It’s good that everything develops harmoniously, at least within society .. After the Roman Empire, a lot of decent things remained ..
    1. myobius59
      myobius59 6 March 2018 22: 25
      +8
      Right And pensions of 8000r are the cover for the COMING GREAT financial leap.
      Due to savings on retirees, Russia will be able to invest even more money in the US economy, which will undoubtedly entail tripling, quadrupling, and tripling of our GDP.
      More rockets, good and different. More generals, fat and thin. More oligarchs, wealthy and mean, and more ... more .. more.
      But you hold on ... hold on ... endure.
      I wonder if Mr. Petrov, who defends his boss with foam at his mouth, has tried to live at least 8000 rubles a week? But you have to live on them MONTH, not even, after all, minus utility bills, payments, purchase of medicines, there are 4-5 tr per MONTH.
      I would like to ask this defender with that Petrova through the lips of that boy- "Uncle Petrov, you fool ?"
      A full hungry one does not understand. Unfortunately, our president did not understand this.
      And even BIGGER regret, many of these HUNGER still believe in such presidential chatter. I don’t understand this. Masochism of some sort. It may be even worse for us, but we will still vote for GDP. Because, MAYBE, under another president, it will be even worse.
      So argue with the statement- "Every nation has the government that it deserves"
      Well, the government then with pleasure after the election has this people.
      More than 40 million live below the poverty line. In terms of living, we EXCEEDED Nigeria.
      Congratulations. fellow
  22. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 6 March 2018 21: 46
    +7
    Yes, indeed, "it remains to surprise Mars"! To steal one trillion two hundred billion dollars from Russia and transfer to Mars! What for them to transfer to America? We have Mars!
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 6 March 2018 22: 04
    +5
    It is not by chance that Putin promised a decade of brilliant victories to Russia in one of his recent speeches. And it seems that it has already begun.
    Author: Yuri Selivanov
    I am a little abstract from the contents of the article, and I will ask those present here - do you remember how in the late 80s and early 90s they stigmatized the "Stalin personality cult" and how long did this bacchanalia last? If not, I’ll say that somewhere from the mid-2000s to the present day this planned campaign has come to naught. That is, television and print media continue to broadcast about the "repression", but for some reason, there is practically silence about the "personality cult". Do you have questions about such electoral tendencies in the “denunciation” of the Generalissimo? For example, it doesn’t arise for me, because everything that is going on in the media now, especially on TV, says that a new "cult" was born! sad
    1. myobius59
      myobius59 6 March 2018 23: 36
      +9
      Who would argue.
      Only he is no longer a newborn, but quite mature.
      Recently, Grudinin was refused a meeting with voters (sort of in Fryazino). Moreover, as he said, in a very rude and insolent form, motivating that only United Russia could hold such meetings.
      Defamation of Grudinin goes on all fronts, and the policemen are especially distinguished by banning and dispersing rallies in his support, and detaining activists. Messages about this come from almost all regions.
      It's only the beginning. But on many sites in tyrnet MOST as if for Grudinin.
      It is clear that GDP will win anyway. But will we benefit from this?
      Something is very doubtful. Excluding Maskwa and some other centers of financial well-being, basically everywhere every year it gets worse and worse.
      At least in our country, in the Kirov region, no clearance is observed.
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 7 March 2018 01: 03
      +7
      Radikal Yesterday, 22:04
      because everything that is happening now in the media, especially on TV, says that a new "cult" has been born!

      #outsides
  24. Freeman
    Freeman 7 March 2018 01: 32
    0
    And if one of such already planned Putin’s surprises would be a solemn meeting of the participants of the Martian expedition, Ilon Mask, Russian astronauts who had already settled on Mars, then I won’t be too surprised.

    We will meet dear guests with all our cordiality and hospitality. laughing
  25. Freeman
    Freeman 7 March 2018 02: 26
    +1
    Quote: Dimka75
    article - veiled banter
    IMHO

    Moreover, with elements of possibly unconscious imitation. laughing
    From the article
    It was these particular technologies of absolute secrecy that accompanied the Soviet space program at one time, which allowed the Soviet Union to regularly drive Americans into a complete stupor.

    Yuz Aleshkovsky. Disguise (The history of one disease) .1978, ed. 1980.
    http://detectivebooks.ru/book/18558246/?page=1
    Yes! This happened at the thirteenth salary, which, they say, was invented by Karl Marx himself, but with the cult of personality they hid it from the working class, hid it.
    So: the thirteenth salary, I would have seen it in my grave. I go down for her into our underground accounting. You, brother, do not pretend that you do not understand why underground. Fine, you all, though not a local general, you understand. But so that you better understand the details of Nashin's life, I will tell you a couple of military secrets. We are up here fighting to make our city Staroporokhov look the dirtiest, most immoral and most deceitful city in our country. We are disguising ourselves, in a word, and hydrogen bombs are being made under us, and the foreigner, of course, has no idea about anything. He himself is an eighth-grade concealer. My business is alcoholism. Brigadier. As a paycheck, so my brigade kicks up, disperses around the city, goes crazy, brawls, cleans the snouts of citizens, also camouflage by profession, and as an elder I have to lie on a bench near Lenin and sleep until morning.
    Yes, brother, don't be surprised! To disguise yourself from the Pentagon is not to guard the Berlin wall and re-educate all Czechs. I repeat: don't be surprised. Our electronics engineers have verified, calculated and programmed everything. As an American satellite flies over Staroporokhov, so our grocery stores line up, it seems like meat, butter and sausage are given, the bus rolls over the koldookhiv, the pioneers march, sing songs about the eternally alive Ilyich, Georgians sell cloves, bl ... they run somewhere behind sheepskin coats, fights in parks, steam baths, theaters, of course, dances in one word, the semblance of life is closed up, disguise, brother, disguise!
    But on the other hand, above, on the ground, around us, so to speak, and below, in spacious, flooded, bl ..., artificial sunlight workshops, laboratories, offices, explosives and party committees, the best Soviet people forge an atomic-hydrogen shield in white coats our homeland, or a sword, if we f .... for you first, Lord of the Boas! Our underground service knows its business very tightly, and we - the ground service - are also not elk deer, and we are overfulfilling the plan, and we do not forget to rationalize. As for the plan, brother, this is the case: personally, my brigade drinks on account of 1999.
  26. Dmitry Plyasulya
    Dmitry Plyasulya 7 March 2018 04: 54
    +5
    Strictly speaking, if it is possible to agree with most theses, then the thesis about our victory in the form of the past Olympiad is fundamentally wrong. The Olympians have made a great deal of mischief to Russia, and this will affect us more than once. Throwing the flag, anthem and the very name of their homeland - what did they defend there? Your right to sweet buns! Which gives reason to our "partners" to speak with us extremely arrogantly. For example, on the termination of the contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz. We are answered in the European "high court" - for the fact that Ukraine owes you your debt, you have contributed to its debt! What the translation means - you are nobody and you can’t call you in any way, which you showed through the Olympics. So you will do what we tell you - or leave you without our buns!
  27. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 7 March 2018 05: 16
    +1
    Glory to the Russian weapons and its President for centuries!
  28. Dmitry Plyasulya
    Dmitry Plyasulya 7 March 2018 05: 31
    +2
    It is, of course, paradoxical that, in our tel aviv-deniya for Russia, by and large, only the representative of Israel, Jacob Kedmi, stands up for Russia. Here, in particular, is what he says about Putin’s speech and, most importantly, about the reaction of patriots who are all-proverbial.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00SMLi2C1nA
    1. myobius59
      myobius59 7 March 2018 14: 16
      +1
      Found someone to listen to. This Cadmi understands real life in Russia, like .... You know who. What did he see, except for Maskva within the MKAD, and his Dead Sea.?
      Such "experts on our television and in the media are a dime a dozen. The only difference is that some predict the" immediate catastrophe ", while others" an incredible rise and prosperity in the near future. "
      But those and others in everything that happens, do not understand anything. Like us sinners.
      Only one person knows everything. But he carries some sort of blizzard, so that apparently we, and our enemies, are even more confused.
      Or he himself is already confused, and does not know how to get out of this tramp. Maybe he himself is not happy already, and at night he jumps up and cries. But he can no longer jump, or he is not allowed to do so.
  29. tazilion
    tazilion 7 March 2018 10: 24
    0
    A minute before the end of the Olympic finals, who knew or believed that
    will Russia have gold?
    Predestination always knows not only the result, but also the author!
    Axiom, accessible to those who know the truth.
    The same with the Message, will also be with Mars.
  30. Humpty
    Humpty 7 March 2018 11: 00
    0
    There is a friend, a complete liberalist, well educated, well paid, used to work in one of the well-known "laboratories" in the field of computer security. He believes that Russian (with a passport) in Wed. Asia needs to be banned from voting in the presidential election in Russia, as vote for Putin (sometimes for Zhirinovsky).
    There will not be many votes for candidate Grudinin. Although nostalgia for the Union is much more justified than in Russia.
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  32. The poor man
    The poor man 7 March 2018 13: 18
    +1
    But is the research institute and design bureau of Russia not swaying at the development of an airplane with vertical take-off and unlimited range and flight time, with the possibility of hovering in the air for a long time, since, judging by the president’s message to the federal assembly, we have everything for this in scientific and technical terms already available. Yes, engines with a controlled thrust vector to add there, I think, will fly well, with supersonic.
  33. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 8 March 2018 01: 03
    -1
    ... another guess ... my speculation ... I won’t guess ...

    And do not guess and rub the saliva of emotion - the deflection is counted.
    Oh, elections ... elections ... What are they doing with decent-looking people!
  34. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 8 March 2018 01: 05
    -1
    Quote: Poor man
    But not to wave ...

    But do not we sway ... at our William ... Shakespeare?
    - and swing!
  35. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 8 March 2018 01: 09
    -1
    Quote: Dmitry Plyasulya
    The Olympians pushed Russia very much

    ek where you brought! Our irreplaceable and immortal fat official cats spoiled the entire Russian Olympic raspberry ... and Vanka the platoon is to blame - a simple athlete. Oh well!
  36. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 March 2018 15: 11
    +1
    Based on all these disputes and screams of the trolls, one thing can be said. The Pentagon was silent for a week. and then admitted that they have no protection against these weapons. We get some holier than the Pentagon. Well, Grudinin is Yeltsin in the 21st century. In any case, the PR technology is the same, though there are elements of modernization: 1. A person allegedly shares communist beliefs. The question is why he is not a communist. 2. He has a lot of money, though he denies it, but show me at least one “effective manager” of a beggar, there are none. 4. Why did they choose the director of the Lenin state farm? This is a message to people through Lukashenko, which ordinary people like in Russia. Well, then think for yourself.
  37. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 9 March 2018 09: 08
    +1
    All the same, one of the HPPs was revealed))) I pretended to be a gas station and quite successfully that everyone believed this and did not even think that a country with an economy torn to shreds could do something possible. But now the views on us have changed, now they will look at us with great apprehension and will very carefully and once in order or even more strengthen their intelligence, and what do we answer? Let's hope that Russia is as big as a haystack and we can safely hide the small and inconspicuous needles of our grandiose developments in this stack. And what? Apple trees do not bloom on Mars yet, but the time is not far off when they bloom there and bear fruit. In connection with the observation of answers to such articles in VO, a lot of critical and ironic comments are visible and this is nothing but a successful attempt to hide the important behind the noise, such as "yes it is impossible, it cannot be, it is a fairy tale" and so on. We work well! IN plus and commentators plus. Continue to criticize, disbelieve and irony? I am for.
    1. Provocator
      Provocator 10 March 2018 12: 32
      0
      I understand that this is a military review. But at the same time I understand that in addition to the army, there are civilians. Of which the majority. And of these civilians, the absolute part perceives itself as poor and even poor. But the poor do not need an army. It is unlikely that ordinary people have assets that need to be protected by army means. Frankly, the army stands on the defense of the Kremlin and its close oligarchs. Well, the oil oligarchs have interests in Serbia, and our army is there.
      About the military. Yes, you can squeeze something else out of the heritage of the USSR, create some types of weapons. The price is terrible - lag in medicine, education, housing and communal services, pensions. Do we need this for ordinary citizens ???? I doubt it
      1. yuriyselivanov
        15 March 2018 12: 56
        0
        Change the training manual. Sleep is catching up.