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Weekend reading. And who is the biggest pension? ..

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Under the heading "Weekend Pulp Fiction" we present a little material, which this time is devoted to Russian pensioners. More precisely, to one pensioner who, as it happens, lives outside the Russian Federation.


We are talking about a man who recently celebrated 87 anniversary. This is the first and only president of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the former general secretary of the former Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the Nobel Peace Prize winner - Mikhail Gorbachev.

Weekend reading. And who is the biggest pension? ..


Not all Russians are aware that Mikhail Sergeevich today is the most grateful person for his work on the part of the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation. In 1994, the then President of the Russian Federation, Boris Yeltsin, against the background of the decision to send troops to the Chechen Republic, also makes a decision on the “special pension provision” of the former head of state.

Presidential (Yeltsin) decree for Mikhail Gorbachev was granted a pension, which automatically made him a pensioner with the highest social security. The decree prescribed a specific pension. This amount is 40 minimum wage in the Russian Federation. Why choose 40? - a riddle to this day. However, it is not a mystery that today Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev’s pension is the largest pension among all citizens of the country who went on a well-deserved vacation, while there is still no exact data as to what citizenship Mikhail Gorbachev has today ).

What is 40 MROT today? If we consider that from January 1 the level of the minimum wage in the Russian Federation is 9489 rubles, then Mikhail Sergeyevich’s pension is 379650 rubles. And even if we subtract the hypothetical 13% tax from this amount, then the amount that will seem astronomical to 99% of Russian pensioners is about 330 thousand rubles per month.

Of course, it is not good to consider other people's pensions, but this thesis is hardly relevant in this situation given that in Russia the vast majority of citizens of retirement age receive much more modest sums from the Pension Fund of Russia on a monthly basis. Apparently, the achievements of millions of other Russian pensioners, including veterans of the Great Patriotic War and labor, simply fade against the background of the achievements of Mikhail Sergeyevich. Especially against the background of his achievements at the helm of a huge state, which is no longer there, and on the ruins of which blood continues to flow as a product of that very “deserved” activity of representatives of the supreme leadership.

This is the case when a Russian pensioner can afford traveling around the world for his pension.
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  1. Arzoo
    Arzoo 4 March 2018 15: 58
    +46
    He needs to go to prison, not retirement! Ruined my homeland! I will not swear ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 4 March 2018 16: 07
      +39
      Gorbachev receives a presidential pension in accordance with Russian law. 500 thousand from the president, 400 from the speakers. And members of the constitutional court have a life sentence in the amount of salary. Now ask what their salary is. The same State Duma deputy who visited the workplace several times during the entire convocation period will also receive at least 20 minimum wages. And what's so surprising about that? lol
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 March 2018 16: 25
        +55
        Quote: siberalt
        And what's so surprising about that?

        Everything in our country is amazing .. Humpbacked must be judged, but he has a pension of 400 .. Do we even need deputies? In general, nothing would have changed if there hadn’t been any, an interest club .. and a federation council? generally a muddy organ .. If you clean out all the parasites, then there will be enough for pensioners to increase .. Officials are 4 times more than under the USSR, although with current technologies there should be 5 times less. That's right where pensions come from, parasites need to be fed .. For some reason neutral athletes were given BMWs from the pocket of citizens ...
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 4 March 2018 16: 27
          +5
          They will answer us simply by asking the question - "Do you need a state? Here, keep quiet!" laughing
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 4 March 2018 16: 31
            +22
            Quote: siberalt
            They will answer us simply by asking the question - "Do you need a state? Here, keep quiet!" laughing

            Someone who does not care about their citizens - no, of course .. Taxes are being cut from you, but what is in return? In general, I think the Federation Council can easily replace the Internet voting ..
            1. siberalt
              siberalt 4 March 2018 16: 37
              +12
              Yeah. Do not like the state? Then vote on March 18, maybe it will change. lol
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 4 March 2018 16: 56
                +31
                Quote: siberalt
                Yeah. Do not like the state? Then vote on March 18, maybe it will change. lol

                Of course I will vote .. but not for this power am
                1. Vladimir16
                  Vladimir16 4 March 2018 17: 13
                  +21
                  Comrades revolutionaries, how much drool you have.
                  Really small louse, but smelly.

                  Article provocateur.
                  If anyone wants a president’s pension, become president. Business then. Everything is according to the law.

                  But these couch revolutionaries at first hammer a bolt to study at school. Then they mow down from the army. Then they look for a place where you do not need to work, and get more money.
                  And then, having received a kick in the ass, they cry sobbidly here, cursing their fate. Blaming everything on Mother Russia, and the power that does not listen to them.

                  Since March XNUMX, you are revolutionary in pants. love
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 4 March 2018 18: 24
                    +6
                    They are not interested in the law.
                    They need justice. But according to what they understand.
                    It’s clear that they don’t get to such a thing, that if you can not follow the law in one case, then you can do it everywhere.
                    And then, when he arrives, they will be surprised - where is the law?
                  2. TuM0305
                    TuM0305 4 March 2018 19: 10
                    +1
                    What city are you from?
                  3. Ivan58
                    Ivan58 4 March 2018 19: 18
                    +12
                    He studied well. From the army did not mow. That I in the 90s for six months did not receive a monetary allowance. After the army, I also work. And I can’t afford to travel the world.
                  4. naidas
                    naidas 4 March 2018 20: 34
                    +9
                    If anyone wants a president’s pension, become president. Business then.
                    If anyone wants a billion rubles, take it. Business then.
                    If anyone wants to kill someone, do it. Business then.
                    If anyone wants women, take it. Business then.
                    If anyone wants to be buried in an elite cemetery, seek. Business then.
                    And will you be a man in law or a politician.
                  5. DEDPIHTO
                    DEDPIHTO 5 March 2018 08: 13
                    +3
                    Quote: Vladimir16
                    Comrades revolutionaries, how much drool you have.
                    Really small louse, but smelly.

                    Some people skipped history lessons ..
                  6. jaroff
                    jaroff 5 March 2018 10: 01
                    +1
                    The fact of the matter is that by law. But not according to the Basic Law, i.e. Constitution of the Russian Federation. In which Article 19 paragraph 2. it is written: "The state guarantees the equality of rights and freedoms of man and citizen regardless of gender, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official position, place of residence, religion, beliefs, membership in public associations, or other circumstances. Any forms of restricting the rights of citizens on the grounds of social, racial, national, linguistic or religious affiliation. " In this case, the concept of "official affiliation" is appropriate. They may object to me that there are relevant laws and decrees. We open the Constitution of the Russian Federation, read article 15, paragraph 1: "The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and applies throughout the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation should not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation" .
                    In this case, the contradiction of the Constitution is obvious.
                    1. yehat
                      yehat 5 March 2018 15: 06
                      0
                      There are statistics that about 300 adopted laws and by-laws directly contradict the constitution. vote for the thought further ...
                  7. yehat
                    yehat 5 March 2018 15: 04
                    +1
                    All by law

                    to get to the presidency, you have to break the law so many times,
                    which is not even clear what you want to say.
                    not everyone is ready to break what is around them.
            2. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 17: 11
              +13
              Quote: Svarog
              That's right, where are pensions from here, parasites need to be fed .. For some reason neutral athletes were given BMWs from the pocket of citizens ..

              Quote: Svarog
              Taxes are sheared from you, but what in return?

              For reference, this year 49 billion rubles were allocated for the maintenance of the President of the Russian Federation, for comparison, the budget of any region of the Central Federal District is from 30 to 40 billion. hi
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 4 March 2018 17: 14
                +10
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                Quote: Svarog
                That's right, where are pensions from here, parasites need to be fed .. For some reason neutral athletes were given BMWs from the pocket of citizens ..

                Quote: Svarog
                Taxes are sheared from you, but what in return?

                For reference, this year 49 billion rubles were allocated for the maintenance of the President of the Russian Federation, for comparison, the budget of any region of the Central Federal District is from 30 to 40 billion. hi

                The budget of the city with a population of 500t. tsp - 9 billion
                1. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 17: 22
                  +7
                  Quote: Svarog
                  The budget of the city with a population of 500t. tsp - 9 billion

                  of which a couple of lard spend on officials and all their nishtyaki.
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              3. Ascetic
                Ascetic 4 March 2018 19: 34
                +12
                Quote: Anti-Corr.
                For reference, this year 49 billion rubles were allocated for the maintenance of the President of the Russian Federation,

                When writing such things, kindly proof in the studio. It is desirable for the official document and not for the liberal garbage dump
                The budget of Russia has two lines related to the costs of the President: cash maintenance (salary equivalent) and operating costs (representation expenses).
                Functioning of the President of the Russian Federation
                20 158 116,2-2018
                20 266 084,8-2019
                20 618 979,9-2020

                Ensuring the functioning of the President of the Russian Federation and his administration
                10 065 996,4
                10 171 883,9
                10 494 056,4
                Federal Law of 05.12.2017 N 362-ФЗ "On the Federal Budget for 2018 and for the Planning Period of 2019 and 2020"
                Even if you calculate ALL expenses for 303 p. With all the cottages, etc., 15,945 billion rubles will be allocated, in 2019 - 15,969 billion rubles, and in 2020 - 16,001 billion rubles.

                According to the document, next year 9,626 billion rubles will be allocated to the administration of the head of state, 2019 billion rubles in 9,649, and 2020 billion rubles in 9,650. In 2018, 5,002 billion rubles will be provided to the Presidential Affairs Department, 2019 billion rubles in 5,003, and 2020 billion rubles in 5,032.

                In total, 2018 billion rubles will be allocated for the functioning of the legislative (representative) bodies of state power and representative bodies of municipalities in 15,938. By 2019, this amount will increase to 16,52 billion rubles, and in 2020 will amount to 18,306 billion rubles.

                The budget of the Council of the Federation for 2018 is estimated at 5,523 billion rubles, in 2019 - 6,086 billion rubles, and in 2020 - 6,240 billion rubles. 2018 billion rubles will be allocated to members of the Federation Council and their assistants in 2,148, 2019 billion rubles in 2,171, and 2020 billion rubles in 2,252.

                The State Duma will receive 2018 billion rubles in 10,415, 2019 billion rubles in 10,434, and 2020 billion rubles in 12,066. Expenditures in the amount of 2018 billion rubles were provided for deputies of the State Duma and their assistants in 5,263, 2019 billion rubles in 5,33, and 2020 billion rubles in 5,528.
                01 National issues
                Do not read at night RBC and echo matzah









                1. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 20: 25
                  +4
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  Do not read at night RBC and echo matzah

                  I hate to endure, by the way both of these "glorious" organizations are generally financed, one at the expense of Gazprom, and the rkk prokhor, which I also gave to my "daughters" somewhere.
                  Well, you say about the “proofs”, well, open the budget, sum everything up, and then clearly say the sum. And there is one more small question, how is the presidential fund formed? Just let's not take each other as antagonists, especially when the moderator is obviously right .
          2. Russia
            Russia 4 March 2018 16: 36
            +9
            In the areas of personal pensions it is full, naturally for officials. These positions are also a turn, as an additional bonus to everything else.
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      2. sabakina
        sabakina 4 March 2018 18: 45
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Gorbachev receives a presidential pension in accordance with Russian law. 500 thousand from the president, 400 from the speakers. And members of the constitutional court have a life sentence in the amount of salary. Now ask what their salary is. The same State Duma deputy who visited the workplace several times during the entire convocation period will also receive at least 20 minimum wages. And what's so surprising about that? lol

        Oleg, I don’t know if there will still be such people ...
    2. 210ox
      210ox 4 March 2018 16: 07
      +9
      But the hand in power will not rise to slam this blow? And the PF would be pleased and people are grateful ..
      1. dSK
        dSK 4 March 2018 18: 44
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        PF would be pleased and people are grateful ..

        Personal Assistant to the Chairman of the Moscow City Duma Alexei Shaposhnikov Alan Dzutsev pushed and doused the presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak."This is for Zhirinovsky!" he shouted. This happened at the exit of the Petrovsky Travel Palace, where the event dedicated to Gorbachev’s birthday. Kommersant 04/03/18.
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 4 March 2018 16: 08
      +22
      Well, why spoil such a reading weekend request He would have walked better than a Judean woman to his friend with whom the USSR sold and collapsed. negative negative This Judah would have my pension of 12 rubles and let him travel.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 16: 15
        +9
        Quote: 79807420129
        He would have walked better

        1. Alber
          Alber 4 March 2018 17: 23
          +3
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          Quote: 79807420129
          He would have walked better


          Hmm ... "Beauty-michun" His horns can be seen from childhood were hidden.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 18: 05
            +6
            Quote: Alber
            His horns can be seen from childhood were hidden.

            but you won’t hide the label hi
    4. maxim947
      maxim947 4 March 2018 16: 11
      +13
      Strange, of course, is our government. Why so much power is concentrated in one hand that it’s enough to ruin the country, this should not be in principle, and as our history has shown, this can be a destructive factor for the country, in this case, the Empire. Here it’s worth praising the Merikos — such hell will do, and if the president is too stubborn, like Kennedy, who began to print bucks bypassing the Fed, they will just kill him, and they wanted to spit on all kinds of conjectures, etc. if state security is at stake.
      Here the special services of humpback or EBN have failed, maybe there wasn’t such a collapse, but the specialists were corrupt or lacked the spirit.
      1. K.A.S.
        K.A.S. 4 March 2018 16: 49
        +4
        Quote: maxim947
        Here the special services of Gorbi or EBN have failed

        The USSR did not break up because the humpback wanted so much. and because the inhabitants of the republics did not want to "feed" Russia. Remember the parade of sovereignty-like the Balts openly said that they do not want to be with Russia. and nat problems in the republics of Central Asia? and the swagger of Ukrainians? rude Caucasians selling tangerines? and the amazing poverty of Russia in the Soviet period?
        The USSR collapsed because it defeated itself, producing a huge amount of weapons could not food. clothing electronics! not just because Gorbi began restructuring! It was his attempt to save the USSR. but not fate!
        Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from the “breadwinners” and giving it free development!
        Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from communist insanity and allowing Russian people to be masters of their own lives. instead of spending money developing fraternal republics and in return receiving spitting and accusations of alcoholism and laziness!
        Spavibo Gorbachev, for the fact that the Russians finally learned that there are other countries in the world and they can travel the world and choose where to learn to live!
        1. loginovich
          loginovich 4 March 2018 17: 02
          +12
          Quote: K.A.S.
          Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from the “breadwinners” and giving it free development!
          Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from communist insanity and allowing Russian people to be masters of their own lives. instead of spending money developing fraternal republics and in return receiving spitting and accusations of alcoholism and laziness!
          Spavibo Gorbachev, for the fact that the Russians finally learned that there are other countries in the world and they can travel the world and choose where to learn to live!

          I forgot to lick for 22 million beggars for a record increase in the number of millionaires.

          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 4 March 2018 17: 41
            +5
            And how does it happen that immigrants from Ukraine. Wed Asia and other republics find work and prosperity and these 20 million go poor? Maybe many of them are to blame? By the way, why don’t you help them, do not provide a decent salary? Does someone not allow you to do this? Golikov, the capitalist understands what to expect from her! But you are brought up on Soviet ideals, where a person is a friend of a friend and brother. Why are you doing nothing to make the poor less?
            1. loginovich
              loginovich 4 March 2018 19: 34
              +4
              You people are wolves and enemies? Do not want to live by the code of the builder of communism? live the new covenant I'm afraid that your moral development has not grown to the old covenant.
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 March 2018 20: 14
              +1
              Of these 20 million poor people — a maximum of 12 million: pensioners, people with disabilities, workers with their hands with their families — the rest: gouging, idlers, drug addicts, drunks, and other lower classes of society, and no one will give this last thing.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 March 2018 20: 17
            +1
            In 2000, there were more than 40 million beggars in Russia. And it turns out that millions and billions can be earned in an honest way, for this you need to work - it is difficult, but possible.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 4 March 2018 17: 03
          +15
          Quote: K.A.S.
          Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from communist insanity and allowing Russian people to be masters of their own lives

          And what are you the master of life? I agree that the leadership of the USSR is old senility, instead
          that would develop the ideas of socialism, ruined and ruined a wonderful country .. But better than socialism, humanity has not come up with anything. The owners of life are now those who are at or near the feeder. Ordinary people, with such power, are doomed. And the children are doomed because whoever has no money, there is no opportunity. So it turns out, welcome to the feudal state.
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 4 March 2018 17: 56
            0
            What is man the master of life now? You somehow too generalized somehow voiced! I will answer how I interpreted the question: now there are more opportunities for self-realization! The masters of life in the USSR are the party apparatus, the nomenclature! And all the rest is a service for children commies who arranged their children in embassies abroad or in the office!
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 4 March 2018 18: 10
              +11
              Quote: K.A.S.
              What is man the master of life now? You somehow too generalized somehow voiced! I will answer how I interpreted the question: now there are more opportunities for self-realization! The masters of life in the USSR are the party apparatus, the nomenclature! And all the rest is a service for children commies who arranged their children in embassies abroad or in the office!

              and now nothing has changed .. everything is like under the USSR .. only here under socialism ordinary people lived, and now only the nomenclature .. So you write the possibilities have become more now .. Let's see .. A child was born in an not rich family, what he has a chance now to become a famous doctor, engineer, scientist, etc. In my opinion there is no chance at all .. You need to study for a doctor for 7 years .. and how to live? well, etc. And under the USSR, everybody had such an opportunity .. Under capitalism, the possibilities of the people are only diminishing every year .. Yes, even with today's “lucky” children need to be attached .. And they are attached, some already have grandchildren ..
              1. K.A.S.
                K.A.S. 4 March 2018 19: 02
                +1
                My child is studying as a doctor in one of the best universities in Russia. Received by ehe. We rent her housing. To learn (God willing) and it will depend on her, she will become such a doctor so that the turn for her is or will not. I see how opportunities are decreasing! Yeah! The competition is such that they will not push through!
                You say everyone could become a doctor, an engineer, but do we need such doctors, engineers, lawyers when each?
                I myself am from a simple family and my family is simple!
                I only regret that my parents did not have the opportunity to get an education early, they had to start working! And you about what everyone could in the union .....
                1. iwakura
                  iwakura 5 March 2018 11: 58
                  0
                  Surprise will be when the child begins to look for work after graduation. What a joke after all: there are not enough doctors, but there are no places
              2. You Vlad
                You Vlad 4 March 2018 20: 06
                +2
                Quote: Svarog
                A child was born in a not rich family, what is his chance now to become a famous doctor, engineer, scientist, etc. In my opinion there is no chance at all ..

                Yes, a unique instance recourse Would you immediately write that it would hinder them to become such?
              3. Vadim237
                Vadim237 4 March 2018 20: 19
                0
                It has even changed - do whatever you want, your right, but pay taxes.
        3. Angel_and_Demon
          Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 17: 04
          +8
          Quote: K.A.S.
          The USSR collapsed because it defeated itself, producing a huge amount of weapons could not food. clothing electronics! not just because Gorbi began restructuring! It was his attempt to save the USSR. but not fate!

          do you really believe that? read Thatcher's memoirs, she does not make sense to lie
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 4 March 2018 17: 48
            +1
            Why should I read it! You can read not only it but also economists and politicians, and everyone will have the truth.
            if after the curtain was opened, Soviet people stopped buying Soviet products. Yes, and when the union sought to get the import!
            If in the USSR it was so good, then something people escaped from the social camp to the decaying west? Have not you thought?
            1. Angel_and_Demon
              Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 18: 07
              +7
              Quote: K.A.S.
              Why should I read it!

              Well then, it’s useless to discuss with you - you can throw beads to pigs with the same success
              1. K.A.S.
                K.A.S. 4 March 2018 19: 42
                0
                Well, if you believe the memoirs of politicians who, even after resignation, are carriers of secrets, then I’m probably in a quiet shock!
                You read how much the USSR occupied over the hill and what was the income of its budget!
                The network has (and on) often printed a table showing who and how many of the republics contributed and received from the budget! This speaks more about the state of the economy of the USSR than the tales of the old pensioner!
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 March 2018 20: 37
            +3
            The Soviet Union fell apart because it spent most of its GDP on arms production and supporting half the world for loans — a return which was not required even in the last 30 years of its existence. 2500 institutes and design bureaus worked for the defense industry, most of the industry, factories and equipment worked to the limit of wear and tear, and everything else according to the plan didn’t matter what to produce, the main thing to produce, it doesn’t matter what quality, whether it is necessary or not, some household goods, even books, it was only possible to find by thieves or by acquaintance, by electronics, automotive, medical equipment and many other things the USSR was inferior to the West, then they were surprised "We all overfulfill the plan - and where everything that we produced is not in stores, it’s impossible to get "
        4. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 March 2018 18: 24
          +8
          Quote: K.A.S.
          Quote: maxim947
          Here the special services of Gorbi or EBN have failed

          The USSR did not break up because the humpback wanted so much. and because the inhabitants of the republics did not want to "feed" Russia. Remember the parade of sovereignty-like the Balts openly said that they do not want to be with Russia. and nat problems in the republics of Central Asia? and the swagger of Ukrainians? rude Caucasians selling tangerines? and the amazing poverty of Russia in the Soviet period?
          The USSR collapsed because it defeated itself, producing a huge amount of weapons could not food. clothing electronics! not just because Gorbi began restructuring! It was his attempt to save the USSR. but not fate!
          Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from the “breadwinners” and giving it free development!
          Thanks to Gorbachev for saving Russia from communist insanity and allowing Russian people to be masters of their own lives. instead of spending money developing fraternal republics and in return receiving spitting and accusations of alcoholism and laziness!
          Spavibo Gorbachev, for the fact that the Russians finally learned that there are other countries in the world and they can travel the world and choose where to learn to live!

          Specify - did you finish school with the Unified State Examination or are you just kidding? Well, to understand - to oppose or not? laughing
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 4 March 2018 19: 34
            +1
            Well, what will change my answer? Who disagrees with you then that he? So a man who is far from him can talk about him., A man who gets to know him better than the usual other opinion! The USSR collapsed thanks to its inhabitants who wanted to drive a Mercedes. Wear fashionable clothes and have no shortage. And the moaning of modern sufferers in the USSR was caused not by his justice (there was no justice at all there) but by the dream of a free apartment and the ability to beat backdoors at work getting a stable pay !!! Envious of the West and showing off imported gear and equipment
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 5 March 2018 17: 11
              +3
              Well, that is, you didn’t find the Union at an age when an understanding of what is happening around not only at the level of reflexes comes, it’s clear laughing I feel sorry for you. You have not seen a normal human life.
      2. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 17: 03
        +5
        Quote: maxim947
        Strange, of course, is our government. Why so much power is concentrated in one hand that it’s enough to ruin the country, this should not be in principle, and as our history has shown, this can be a destructive factor for the country, in this case, the Empire. Here it’s worth praising the Merikos - hell such tricks will pass,

        you are right in one thing, but not state security, but the security of the true ruler of the country, their president is a puppet, what’s the racket made of his election promises? and won’t give him, and if you like living in such a state - welcome to America
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 4 March 2018 17: 20
          +10
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          you are right in one thing, but not state security, but the security of the true ruler of the country, their president is a puppet, what’s the racket made of his election promises? and won’t give him, and if you like living in such a state - welcome to America

          Continuing your logic .. In Russia, the president also promised a lot of things (May decrees) and did nothing .. Consequently, is he also being ruled or something else? With America, everything is clear to me and you are right here. But with Russia it is not clear. What prevented the implementation of the May decrees? And why didn’t anyone bear responsibility for this? And why is the president happy with the government?
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 17: 27
            +4
            Quote: Svarog
            What prevented the implementation of the May decrees? And why didn’t anyone bear responsibility for this? And why is the president happy with the government?

            here, this is my opinion, there are not those 200 years - what the stripes have, but look and compare with the fuck, are there any changes?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 4 March 2018 17: 38
              +6
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              Quote: Svarog
              What prevented the implementation of the May decrees? And why didn’t anyone bear responsibility for this? And why is the president happy with the government?

              here, this is my opinion, there are not those 200 years - what the stripes have, but look and compare with the fuck, are there any changes?

              There is of course, but it is not correct to compare with the drunk. It’s always easier to grow from scratch, especially when oil rises in price .. but oil has fallen and it has become clear that nothing fundamentally important has been done ..
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 4 March 2018 17: 58
                +4
                Quote: Svarog
                It’s always easier to grow from scratch, especially when oil rises in price .. but oil has fallen and it has become clear that nothing fundamentally important has been done ..

                And especially when Putin forced to pay tax to the treasury of oil barons and not only them! If he didn’t do this, even with the high price of oil, crumbs would fall into the budget! And that means we would have lived no better than under Yeltsin. And now, even with cheap oil, the budget is filling up regularly. And pensions are paid on time and indexed (albeit less than we would like) regularly. Could Putin restore an army with an empty budget? I think it’s unlikely. So the success of our president is not in the high oil price, but in the fact that he forced the oligarchs to pay taxes. Let it be only 13% tax so far, but look - in its next term of presidency the rate of this tax for the rich will increase.
                1. dauria
                  dauria 4 March 2018 19: 02
                  +8
                  Let it be only 13% tax so far, but look - in its next term of presidency the rate of this tax for the rich will increase.


                  Wow! Is it written in his program, or "thoughts out loud"? Please kindly link where he promised a progressive scale. Or again hope that here on this time he certainly ..... laughing
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 4 March 2018 19: 27
                    +2
                    "According to the president, the person who earns more should pay more. The head of state noted that in the foreseeable future the single tax rate should be preserved, however," certainly, it should once be reviewed and thought about switching to a differentiated scale. "
                    - This is what Putin said in 2013.
                    Details from AK: http://actualcomment.ru/putin_progressivnaya_shka
                    la_naloga_spravedliva.html
                2. Svarog
                  Svarog 4 March 2018 19: 38
                  +7
                  Quote: SRC P-15
                  Quote: Svarog
                  It’s always easier to grow from scratch, especially when oil rises in price .. but oil has fallen and it has become clear that nothing fundamentally important has been done ..

                  And especially when Putin forced to pay tax to the treasury of oil barons and not only them! If he didn’t do this, even with the high price of oil, crumbs would fall into the budget! And that means we would have lived no better than under Yeltsin. And now, even with cheap oil, the budget is filling up regularly. And pensions are paid on time and indexed (albeit less than we would like) regularly. Could Putin restore an army with an empty budget? I think it’s unlikely. So the success of our president is not in the high oil price, but in the fact that he forced the oligarchs to pay taxes. Let it be only 13% tax so far, but look - in its next term of presidency the rate of this tax for the rich will increase.

                  But the oligarchs shifted these taxes onto the shoulders of the population .. There were only oligarchs, set their own, loyal .. and what a big merit?
              2. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 18: 09
                +8
                Quote: Svarog
                There is of course, but it is not correct to compare with the drunk.

                Well then, let's compare with Nicholas II
                1. You Vlad
                  You Vlad 4 March 2018 18: 52
                  +6
                  The USSR collapsed because it was developing at a gigantic pace of economic growth, and the West understood that if it continued to go on like that, they would not withstand the competition with the Union hi And then they began quietly tied to our party elite! Result: the collapse of the USSR is an act of not only Gorbatov and EBN, but almost the entire top of the CPSU! They just surrendered us recourse
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 4 March 2018 20: 45
                    0
                    "The USSR collapsed because it was developing at a gigantic rate of growth" of the economy. Due to the defense industry and supplies to friendly countries, everything else was a complete loss, like agriculture.
                  2. wer2
                    wer2 4 March 2018 20: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    USSR collapsed because

                    No one was ruining him. He fell apart. Because it could exist only in conditions of severe pressure from the authorities. There was no pressure, the USSR did not.
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    he developed a gigantic economic growth rate

                    Enchanting nonsense. Pants in the store cost like a monthly salary. There was really no grub in the shops. But, suddenly, the growth rate for some reason suddenly became gigantic.
                    Degraded the USSR little by little. Those. growth rates were NEGATIVE. He kept only at the rising price of oil. When these prices collapsed, the USSR collapsed.
                    Was there an alternative?
                    It was. But not in the form of the USSR, but in the form of the SSK (North Korea itself).
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    the West understood that if it continues to continue like this, they would not withstand the competition with the Union

                    I was always wondering why people write such enchanting nonsense?
                    Quote: You Vlad
                    They just surrendered us

                    Here is a striking example of slave psychology. "The owner betrayed me, the owner sold me." Neither add nor diminish.
                2. Svarog
                  Svarog 4 March 2018 19: 53
                  +5
                  Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                  Quote: Svarog
                  There is of course, but it is not correct to compare with the drunk.

                  Well then, let's compare with Nicholas II

                  Maybe with Stalin? laughing
              3. Vadim237
                Vadim237 4 March 2018 20: 43
                0
                “That nothing fundamentally important has been done ..” You imagine, a lot has been done, in comparison with the 90s and now - like heaven and earth.
    5. Maz
      Maz 4 March 2018 19: 11
      +1
      That Schaub, Mih Sergeyevich, rather went into another world, and Schaub was not a painless affair. We’ll save so much money on the traitor of the Motherland!
      1. romandostalo
        romandostalo 4 March 2018 20: 35
        0
        There was such a product from the Vikings in antiquity, called a pig man. Eyes were poked out, tongue was cut out, eardrums were pierced, as well as hands were cut off to the elbow and legs to the knees ......
    6. Slovak
      Slovak 4 March 2018 20: 40
      +5
      Quote: Arzoo
      He needs to go to prison, not retirement! Ruined my homeland! I will not swear ...

      He destroyed not only your country. If it weren’t for his efforts, there would have been Czechoslovakia. I hope the FSB does not consider extremism, but I would personally pull his birthmark on him ...
    7. Falcond
      Falcond 4 March 2018 20: 49
      0
      Split Korea into North and South?
    8. ava09
      ava09 5 March 2018 00: 27
      0
      This fact only says that "we have drained our homeland, son" ... As long as the rat-wolves will devour the Russians, they will be the beneficiaries, and Gorbachert among them ...
  2. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 15: 59
    +4
    then Mikhail Sergeyevich’s pension is 379650 rubles without tax. Even if you deduct 13% tax from this amount, then there remains the amount that for 99% of Russian pensioners will seem astronomical - about 330 thousand rubles a month.
    and we are laughing with ukroshumerov that they privatize state property for a third of the cost, providing ourselves a comfortable old age, and here nothing is needed to privatize request
    1. 210ox
      210ox 4 March 2018 16: 09
      +2
      Yes, all that is necessary. Destroy the Great Country ......
      Quote: Angel_and_Demon
      then Mikhail Sergeyevich’s pension is 379650 rubles without tax. Even if you deduct 13% tax from this amount, then there remains the amount that for 99% of Russian pensioners will seem astronomical - about 330 thousand rubles a month.
      and we are laughing with ukroshumerov that they privatize state property for a third of the cost, providing ourselves a comfortable old age, and here nothing is needed to privatize request
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 16: 16
        +3
        Quote: 210ox
        Yes, all that is necessary. Destroy the Great Country ......

        here I am about too request
  3. ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 4 March 2018 15: 59
    +8
    9 grams of lead would be cheaper for the traitor of the Motherland.
    1. fiberboard
      fiberboard 4 March 2018 16: 07
      +6
      In his underpass, ask for alms. And I spent the night so that in a rooming house, or porch. And on the box for alms, write - ,, Serve the best German ,,
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  5. cats
    cats 4 March 2018 16: 09
    +7
    He was mentioned in time, the humiliation of my country began with him.
    Still alive, even in hell you're .... unnecessary. am
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 4 March 2018 16: 54
      0
      humiliation of my country. (I'm talking about Russia) and its plunder began in 1917! and with Gorbachev they ended!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 4 March 2018 17: 34
        +11
        Quote: K.A.S.
        humiliation of my country. (I'm talking about Russia) and its plunder began in 1917!

        Koschey immortal or what? how old are you Trollwas in the 17th? laughing
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 4 March 2018 20: 07
          0
          At 17 I wasn’t. But there was my country and my ancestors whom the Communists robbed! All communist power is built on fear and blood. The communists took the land from the peasants and drove them into collective farms, took away bread and rights from the blue, and enslaved the workers at the enterprises. The children received a paid education, but dissenting Cossacks, for example, were simply shot with the children! The Communists at the expense of the Russian people created republics that pumped resources from Russia during the union.
          The times of Russian lawlessness in the days of the Communists all ended. Now Russia, it is difficult to develop and is returning its status of the state and not the land created by the communes to satisfy the aspirations of the world proletariat due to the genocide of Russian people
      2. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 4 March 2018 18: 13
        +7
        Quote: K.A.S.
        and with Gorbachev they ended!

        who handed over the Warsaw Pact, who destroyed nuclear weapons, and who received the medal of the American Congress for the collapse of the USSR? oh jude
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 4 March 2018 20: 38
          0
          the Warsaw pact did not contain money from the USSR, because it’s your money that’s how it just appears. And they need to earn. in the USSR, oil has fallen in price and everything is finite. There is nothing to keep allies on. The United States is in the same situation. They are trying to get countries to increase spending.
          To the Gorbachev award: there is no such award for the collapse of the USSR.
          Regarding the destruction of nuclear weapons, they destroyed it altogether along with the amers. And if he destroyed what Russia defended all these decades with? And again, they reduced it because of financial problems in the state. As well as the army.
      3. You Vlad
        You Vlad 4 March 2018 18: 54
        +2
        Quote: K.A.S.
        humiliation of my country. (I'm talking about Russia) and its plunder began in 1917!

        Forgive what year of release? wassat
  6. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 4 March 2018 16: 09
    +7
    Gorbachev lives well in Germany, children and grandchildren are also attached. In addition, he receives 330 rubles for the collapse of the country from the pocket of ordinary citizens.
  7. Giharka
    Giharka 4 March 2018 16: 10
    0
    We love counting other people's money! Envy eats? Author minus
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 March 2018 16: 20
      +11
      Quote: Giharka
      We love counting other people's money! Envy eats? Author minus

      Envy? Well, I’ll never envy the Marked One. Will be in the ninth circle of Hell, traitor. He then understands how he is "loved" here, and therefore does not stick his nose out of Germany.
    2. Dormidont
      Dormidont 4 March 2018 16: 20
      +6
      I'm not greedy and ready to pay an ice pick for him
    3. 210ox
      210ox 4 March 2018 16: 41
      +3
      Do you have interest in Tagged?
      Quote: Giharka
      We love counting other people's money! Envy eats? Author minus
    4. Igor V
      Igor V 4 March 2018 16: 53
      +7
      Quote: Giharka
      We love counting other people's money! Envy eats? Author minus

      Yes, it seems that this money is not completely alien, not honestly earned. To many he must have remained.
    5. Svarog
      Svarog 4 March 2018 17: 27
      +9
      Quote: Giharka
      We love counting other people's money! Envy eats? Author minus

      Actually, this is taxpayer money ..
  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 March 2018 16: 10
    +10
    It still smokes the sky, have the devils not cleaned it up? He needs to make the grave in the form of a latrine, so that everyone can really lighten up on this one! And after all, how many good people have died, and for some reason, this fake-dock has not yet become stunned!
  9. jovanni
    jovanni 4 March 2018 16: 12
    +10
    Let not be happy! I’ve been upgraded last month too. Almost 110 rubles! Now almost 13 pieces! Cool! True, I didn’t ruin my homeland ...
    1. Dormidont
      Dormidont 4 March 2018 16: 19
      +8
      I suspect that 40 minimum wages at the rate are equal to 30 silver
      1. tank66
        tank66 4 March 2018 21: 44
        +3
        Straight into the pussy. I was especially interested in: 30 well-known silver pieces, shekels, shekels in those days - the cost of 60 sheep. 330 000/60 = 5500 - approximately runoff and there are lamb in places where there are many.
  10. Boris Tomarov_2
    Boris Tomarov_2 4 March 2018 16: 15
    +5
    He sold the Soviet Union, weapons in the Western World War, brought the party gold abroad, he was awarded the State Department medal, and this scum also pays 30 people, they pay.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 4 March 2018 16: 24
      +10
      Quote: Boris Tomarov_2
      he was awarded the State Department medal

      Well, the State Department understands why he awarded the traitor, and FOR WHAT Medvedev awarded him with the highest order of Russia of St. Andrew the First-Called, they appointed a large pension to each other, to hell with them, so they still praise each other for their deeds.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 March 2018 17: 21
        +6
        Quote: Anatol Klim
        Well, the State Department understands why he awarded the traitor, and FOR WHAT Medvedev awarded him with the highest order of Russia of St. Andrew the First-Called, they appointed a large pension to each other, to hell with them, so they still praise each other for their deeds.

        Maybe they are from the same organization? laughing
  11. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 4 March 2018 16: 16
    +1
    In any situation, he worked differently from our deputies and there was more responsibility. Today all the dogs were hung on him, only the lazy one did not kick. But it was not he who destroyed the USSR; one should not forget about it. Those who were falling apart under the shadow of Yeltsin had pockets full and live without protruding. Earlier their surnames thundered, now it is not audible. The dog knows whose meat has eaten.
    1. volodya
      volodya 4 March 2018 16: 53
      +5
      But he started! If not for him, maybe the drunk would not have come to power!
  12. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 4 March 2018 16: 16
    +13
    Quote: Giharka
    We love counting other people's money! Envy eats? Author minus

    This is our money. Which fall into the pension fund with deductions of our salaries.
    1. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 4 March 2018 16: 22
      +4
      Your money in your pockets
      1. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper 4 March 2018 18: 28
        +8
        Let's count. 13 percent income, 18 VAT (the same income, only hidden), 20 pension, 8 like medical insurance. The union will forgive 1 percent. Total from each earned ruble the state takes 59 kopecks. Yes, I agree that this is necessary. But I would like to receive a report once a year - where did the money earned go. About retirement there is another story altogether ... Many of the men live longer than 65? And the calculation of the pension is for 200 months. Those. up to 76 years. I don’t have a single acquaintance, a neighbor, who would live up to 76. Women. Yes there is. Little. Mom died in 86. She, a veteran of labor, a home front worker, had a pension of 98 rubles in Soviet times. In general, not bad. In the 90s, naturally much less, probably 10 thousand (in terms of current money). And now you say not to look into the pockets of others. Alas, the fact is that this pocket is being filled at our expense. 300 kilo rubles is an opportunity for 300 people to raise their pension by 1 ton. For them it is significant. And this tagged individual will not even notice.
  13. Dormidont
    Dormidont 4 March 2018 16: 17
    +3
    On the other hand, it’s good that he’s not dead yet, and he can live to the gallows.
  14. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 4 March 2018 16: 19
    +2
    In Germany, they advertise vodka Gorbachev ... also not a small income) .... And the Berlin wall for souvenirs (a splinter - 5 euros in Berlin) - you don’t need khukh mukhras - they will mow loot for a long time ...)))
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 4 March 2018 17: 07
      +1
      He also advertised pizza! It’s still not clear, was it really necessary to ruin the country for this ?!
  15. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 4 March 2018 16: 21
    +8
    I remember listening to him with his mouth open. At first))) A herd of frightened idiots.
    1. Igor V
      Igor V 4 March 2018 17: 05
      +8
      Being at the training camp in 86, I tried to listen to him. I listened for the first 15 minutes, the next with difficulty, after half an hour it was already impossible to perceive. And he spoke for two and a half hours. So I doubt very much that someone listened with "opening his mouth." It is now being taught to you that they "listened with their mouth open."
      At one time there was a joke about Brezhnev: "Thick black eyebrows, long empty voices ..." Leonid Ilyich, in comparison with this figure, was a model of laconicism.
  16. bubalik
    bubalik 4 March 2018 16: 29
    +4
    We are talking about a man who recently celebrated the 87 anniversary.

    1. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 4 March 2018 22: 47
      +2
      winning topic, hunchback scolding, but then such a dissonance was drawn fellow
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 March 2018 15: 49
        +1
        Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
        winning topic, hunchback scolding, but then such a dissonance was drawn fellow

        Come on, scolding Putin is also a winning topic today. Moreover, from three sides at once - among liberals, ultra-patriots, and communists.
        So, to paraphrase the classic: "First, they decided to scold Gorbachev, then - to blame Putin. Then they decided to combine." smile
        1. Tatanka Yotanka
          Tatanka Yotanka 5 March 2018 18: 18
          +2
          Quote: Alexey RA
          scolding Putin is also a winning topic now

          then I’ll move away from the generally accepted and praise so that they aren’t written down on these three sides or worse, in State Department fellow
          "Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich. We, your voters, fully support your heartfelt congratulations to Mikhail Sergeyevich, continue in the same vein." fellow
  17. midshipman
    midshipman 4 March 2018 16: 29
    +10
    Yes, your deeds are not clear Lord. Our prime minister handed the order of St. Andrew the First-Called to this labeled one. How can this be? The country according to the US strategy along with the drunk was destroyed. There is no truth on earth, no higher. I have the honor.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 4 March 2018 17: 40
      +12
      The drunk, as you wrote, is no longer on earth. And his faithful companion Sobchak, too.
      But his team, apparently, will continue to take care of us. The Musketeers, right - one for all, all for one. Years go by, only positions change, by the principle - higher and higher. But everyone started on Sobchak’s team. In a word - rare stability.
      Dmitry Kozak - Deputy Head of the Legal Department of the Executive Committee of the Leningrad City Executive Committee, since 1994 - Member of the Government of St. Petersburg.
      Igor Sechin - an employee of the St. Petersburg Mayor's Office, worked until 1996 in the office of the First Deputy Mayor - Chairman of the Committee for External Relations of the City Hall.
      Dmitry Medvedev is a confidant of Sobchak in the election of people's deputies of the USSR. In 1990's - an expert of the Committee on External Relations of the St. Petersburg City Hall.
      Anatoly Chubais - deputy, and then first deputy chairman of the executive committee of the Leningrad City Council and chief economic adviser to Anatoly Sobchak.
      Vladimir Putin is an adviser to the chairman of the Leningrad City Council; at 1991-1996, he is the chairman of the committee on external relations of the mayor's office of Leningrad (St. Petersburg), deputy mayor, and later first deputy mayor of St. Petersburg, Anatoly Sobchak.
      Alexey Miller is an employee of the Committee on Economic Reform of the Executive Committee of the Leningrad City Council; since 1991, he has been a member of the Committee on External Relations of the St. Petersburg City Hall.
      Alexei Kudrin - Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Economic Reform of the Executive Committee of the Leningrad City Council, then with 1991 - Deputy Chairman of the Committee on Economic Development of St. Petersburg. Since 1992 of the year - Chairman of the Main Financial Department of the City Hall of St. Petersburg. Since 1993 of the year - deputy, first deputy mayor, member of the city government, chairman of the committee for economics and finance of the city hall of St. Petersburg.
      Vladimir Churov - Member of the Lensovet-Petrosoviet. Since 1991, Churov worked in the Committee on External Relations of the Administration of St. Petersburg, including more than five years, under the leadership of Vladimir Putin.
      Viktor Zubkov - Deputy Chairman of the Committee on External Relations of St. Petersburg City Hall Vladimir Putin.
      Sergey Naryshkin - Since 1992, he headed one of the departments of the Committee on Economics and Finance of the St. Petersburg Mayor's Office.
      German Gref - head of the Petrodvorets district agency of the property management committee of the St. Petersburg administration, then chairman of the property management committee - deputy head of the administration of the Petrodvorets district of St. Petersburg, since 1994 of the year - deputy chairman of the city property management committee (KUGI) of the St. Petersburg City Hall .
      Vitaly Mutko - Chairman of the Executive Committee of the Kirov District Council of People's Deputies of Leningrad. Since 1992, he has been deputy mayor of St. Petersburg and chairman of the mayoralty committee on social issues.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 4 March 2018 21: 11
        +1
        ...Wow! Sobchak was - "great" ... We can conclude that the GDP took power from the "heiress" of the throne of Ksenia I ... laughing
      2. Severok
        Severok 5 March 2018 00: 02
        +2
        How much shit, there’s nowhere to put a test directly and all from one cube ...
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 March 2018 16: 03
        +1
        From all over the country, the president gathered the best minds in his team. Trains and planes arrived in the capital from St. Petersburg crowded. © smile
  18. Cadet
    Cadet 4 March 2018 16: 30
    +5
    In our country, there are corporate pensions, and believe me, they sometimes exceed 350000 rubles a month, just the management loves itself and knows that it will not be able to live on the pension that was assigned to senior citizens.
  19. Sergey D_2
    Sergey D_2 4 March 2018 16: 32
    +6
    They elevated Lenin - they cheated.
    Stalin-cheated
    Khrushchev-cheated.
    Brezhnev - cheated
    Gorbachev - cheated
    Yeltsin-cheated
    Putin has everything ahead.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 March 2018 16: 04
      +1
      We always have a former boss,
      And the current one is just sweetie.
      Today we write history
      How the world feels a three-year-old ..,

      And tomorrow we will fix it in tears,
      Like post-infarction uncles.
      Therefore I am about today
      Silent as an scout in an ambush.
      © Dolsky
  20. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 March 2018 16: 46
    +3
    Mikhail Sergeyevich's pension is 379650 rubles without tax. Even if you deduct 13% tax from this amount, then there remains the amount that for 99% of Russian pensioners will seem astronomical - about 330 thousand rubles a month.

    Pension tax is not levied. At least for me. True and my pension is "a little" less.
  21. Des10
    Des10 4 March 2018 16: 46
    +2
    And who is the author of this article - the news? laughing
    Hiding.
    By the way, the state pension --- is not taxed! smile
  22. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 4 March 2018 16: 47
    +4
    Another throw of shit on the fan ... In VO there is nothing more to do?
    1. woron333444
      woron333444 4 March 2018 16: 52
      +1
      Elections, and the closer March 18 the more shit.
  23. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 4 March 2018 16: 51
    +5
    Since 1998, I have been cognac. In 1998, he was 33 years old.
    Waiting for Mikhail Sergeevich, waiting. I’ll open this bottle on the happiest day of my life (not counting my birthday).
    1. Sergey D_2
      Sergey D_2 4 March 2018 16: 57
      +4
      Cognac is aged only in barrels. Your case is redneck
    2. NKT
      NKT 4 March 2018 17: 52
      0
      Gorbachev's favorite cognac - Armenian, Anniversary wink
    3. sxfRipper
      sxfRipper 4 March 2018 19: 11
      0
      Is there a lot of honor for MikhalSergeich? Better drink for grandchildren / granddaughters!
  24. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 4 March 2018 16: 58
    +1
    Well, what can you do about it?
  25. Old military officer
    Old military officer 4 March 2018 17: 07
    +3
    Your brother-in-law, i.e. the raven will not peck out the crow.
  26. seos
    seos 4 March 2018 17: 13
    +3
    In addition, the + Nobel Peace Prize ... brought a bunch of grandmas .... We pay him for our destruction and genocide ...
  27. karakol
    karakol 4 March 2018 17: 24
    +3
    everything is correct. the more harm the ghoul has brought to the country and citizens, the greater the pension
  28. tchoni
    tchoni 4 March 2018 17: 26
    +2
    FIVE pieces of green - an excellent pension !! ?? - Yes, a third of German pensioners simply laughs at him .... You see, a spotty beggar came)))
  29. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 4 March 2018 17: 30
    +1
    Nothing strange. Everything is in accordance with the law. There is nothing to discuss, all the same, Misha Seven-Forty will get it before his shameful death ... And they’ll take it away, so the Zionists feed it, they help relatives ...
  30. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 4 March 2018 17: 30
    +2
    Soviet rubles to pay him, Judah.
  31. 1536
    1536 4 March 2018 17: 43
    +4
    Damn this man!
  32. In h
    In h 4 March 2018 17: 51
    +5
    Everything is clear with Gorbachev .. and this is why much more money is spent on the maintenance of an old woman .. the wife of an alcoholic who has destroyed a country .. and how did this flock deserve such an attitude? The foreman sent bad for Russia no less than Gorbachev .. if not more.
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 4 March 2018 18: 38
      +2
      Come on .. The foreman was a puppet, and if not for the combine operator, he would never come to power. IMHO did not dry out in the west for three months when the news came that their agent had become Secretary General.
  33. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 4 March 2018 17: 56
    +1
    Correct the author - income tax on pensions is not paid.
  34. nafanal
    nafanal 4 March 2018 17: 57
    +2
    And when does this die
  35. rocket757
    rocket757 4 March 2018 17: 59
    +2
    Shaw whine. We have such power, we have such a system - CAPITALISM .... they cannot, in principle, offend those who created their wealth.
    In short, who’s temporary here, GOETH in ... shorter there.
    ALL AUTHORITY TO THE COUNCILS!
  36. lav67
    lav67 4 March 2018 18: 15
    +1
    should be in prison
  37. Monarchist
    Monarchist 4 March 2018 18: 25
    +1
    Comrades, like many of you, I was born and raised under the Union. Not everyone at that time lived "cumulatively": there were nomenclature and simple hard workers, then there was REAL STABILITY. And now we have relative stability: bandits do not kill anyone they want in broad daylight, b / m enterprises work stably and pensioners receive pensions strictly according to the schedule, and remember how it was relatively recently: in March they received their pension in January (we went to the post office for which month). Now there is no such thing and we DO NOT fight and we do not have such a "jolly" as in the black geyropa. So we still have a "smart life"
  38. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 March 2018 18: 26
    +1
    author. some secretive, illiterate student. I will ask a question. Where did he get that pension income tax is calculated?
  39. Yura Kharlamov
    Yura Kharlamov 4 March 2018 18: 30
    0
    It’s a pity that before ... this animal did not fall into the zone.
  40. Dart
    Dart 4 March 2018 18: 33
    0
    Judah: Even worse, he strangled himself.
  41. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 4 March 2018 18: 34
    +2
    Quote: Cadet
    In our country, there are corporate pensions, and believe me, they sometimes exceed 350000 rubles a month, just the management loves itself and knows that it will not be able to live on the pension that was assigned to senior citizens.

    I don’t see anything wrong with the fact that the corporation pays extra to its employees, but these pensions come from the budget of the corporation, and not from the RF PF.
  42. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 March 2018 18: 35
    +2
    With Gorbachev alive, we don’t know much about the 7 years of the collapse of the Union. It is silent, therefore it is alive.
  43. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 4 March 2018 18: 36
    +3
    "Of course, it is not good to consider other people's pensions"
    I completely agree with this thesis. I can not stand it when rummaging in other people's wallets in this case. It was necessary to dig earlier. What is now something to kick grandfather?! ..
  44. Monarchist
    Monarchist 4 March 2018 18: 39
    +4
    Quote: karakol
    everything is correct. the more harm the ghoul has brought to the country and citizens, the greater the pension

    I don’t want to justify M, S, he is a BALLOBLE HEADLESS, and the culprits are: Shushkevich, Burbulis, Kravchuk and EBN (I hope the devils in hell do not cheat, but work properly) + THIS CHANGE: leadership of the Moscow Region and the KGB. Not without reason, Burbulis later said that until the last moment they were afraid that one of the junior KGB officers would be principled. So the leadership has already been handed over?
  45. Radikal
    Radikal 4 March 2018 18: 40
    +4
    In 1994, the then President of the Russian Federation, Boris Yeltsin, against the background of the decision to send troops to the Chechen Republic, also made the decision on "special pensions" for the former head of state.
    This is a payment for betrayal, as a result of which the great country disappeared! am
  46. shuravi
    shuravi 4 March 2018 18: 45
    +2
    Humpback was the president of the USSR. Well, let him receive a pension there. Or at least to the extent that he would have been a pension under the USSR.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 4 March 2018 20: 52
      0
      Just like svidomye about Donbass
  47. BAI
    BAI 4 March 2018 18: 47
    +1
    Extremely mediocre article.
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 4 March 2018 19: 11
      +3
      Medvedev retired ???? belay
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 March 2018 19: 18
      +1
      The article is a very subtle throw. I wonder who the author is? Congratulations to the troll.
  48. 23424636
    23424636 4 March 2018 19: 10
    +2
    in D N R the overwhelming pension of 2800 rubles. Moscow food price. in Shmatia it is higher than Rostov by 50%. Vodka is true for 95 rubles a normal 5 cap. local spill. Cheerful pensions from the Donbass of 20 thousand people go through check-ups and check bags every day to receive their UAH 1500 at block posts. On blocks already inside the territory patrols, having looked into the bus to screw young people, leave alone pioneers, i.e., pensions . Donbass, who gave his riches to scolding lessons, eradicates a miserable existence without hope that clowns like Kozak will not understand that there is more Russia here than in Moscow.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 4 March 2018 20: 46
      0
      Why are you doing this? Read the article title!
      On the site and in Russia there are people from the Donbass and we will learn first-hand information! What is it with Delphi reprinted?
      Tell us about the price of a dozen eggs in Moscow and in the Dnie. . tired of Moscow prices! Moscow prices may be cheaper than in other cities there are wholesale bases and competition stores! And in chain stores like a Dixie magnet in general, like in my city.
      One Svidomots blurt out the others behind him as parrots repeat!
  49. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 4 March 2018 19: 11
    +5
    Why do scoundrels live so long? request recourse
  50. Hiller
    Hiller 4 March 2018 20: 02
    0
    Two traitors of the USSR and Russia ... humpback and ebn ..... two nasty figures in the history of Russia