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In the Russian Federation will create a tank on a wheeled platform

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The tank on the wheeled platform "Boomerang" will be developed in the near future, it will be Russian know-how, reports RIA News a message from the general director of the Military Industrial Company (MIC), Alexander Krasovitsky.


In the Russian Federation will create a tank on a wheeled platform


Our plans today are to make a wheeled tank,
said the head of the MIC on the channel "Star".

We can talk about this very soon,
added on.

Earlier, Krasovitsky told the agency that today there are no direct competitors to the Russian Boomerang armored personnel carrier developed by the designers of the military-industrial complex and first demonstrated at the May 9 parade on May 2015. This platform is “a breakthrough in engineering,” he noted.

Perspective infantry fighting vehicles on the Boomerang platform were shown last year during a military parade on Red Square in honor of the 72 anniversary of the victory in the Great Patriotic War.
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  1. Kars
    Kars 4 March 2018 12: 19
    +26
    Nda) why is asked?
    And if it’s straight, put a tower from the octopus and kaz on the boomerang chassis.
    1. seti
      seti 4 March 2018 12: 22
      +10
      There is a gun 125mm. Think so easy?
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 4 March 2018 12: 23
        +3
        I wonder what kind of theater?

        Near East?
        Will we be fixed?
        1. Arzoo
          Arzoo 4 March 2018 14: 20
          +1
          Yes, most likely BV and Africa.
        2. Ren
          Ren 5 March 2018 07: 29
          +4
          Quote: bulvas
          I wonder what kind of theater?

          For Europe, it’s easier to move around on a wheeled basis on an autobahn! fellow
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 5 March 2018 07: 42
            +1
            Quote: Ren
            Quote: bulvas
            I wonder what kind of theater?

            For Europe, it’s easier to move around on a wheeled basis on an autobahn! fellow


            Europe no longer needs to conquer tanks
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 4 March 2018 12: 40
        +11
        Quote: seti
        There is a gun 125mm. Think so easy?

        Not easy. The armored corps will have to make a new one, with a lower height.
        1. Monos
          Monos 4 March 2018 13: 54
          +8
          Quote: Spade
          Not easy. The armored corps will have to make a new one, with a lower height.

          Not expected.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 4 March 2018 16: 18
            +8
            Quote: Monos
            Not expected.

            Then this is enchanting stupidity. And an attempt to remove the tonsils through the anus.
      3. Cat
        Cat 4 March 2018 13: 46
        +4
        Quote: seti
        There is a gun 125mm. Think so easy?

        In modern conditions, a smaller caliber gun for a wheeled tank is not promising. Although so and so a wheeled tank on a boomerang platform will be simply huge and unambiguously larger and higher than the T90. By the way, the story repeats at one time in the USSR, the PT-76 reconnaissance units were adopted, which was an order of magnitude larger than the linear T-54.
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon 4 March 2018 13: 56
          +5
          Quote: Kotischa
          It was adopted by the reconnaissance units PT-76

          Judging by the sources, there was a problem where to build the PT-76 in the structure of the division. And since the car was not afraid of the rivers and could immediately cross over and accompany a number of units - they were included in the scouts.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 4 March 2018 18: 15
            +1
            What sources do you have? In their opinion, they first mold the equipment, and then think what to do with it? Usually, on the contrary, they give the task: we need such and such a technique with such and such characteristics, for such and such units, and then they do it.
            1. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon 4 March 2018 19: 23
              +4
              Quote: Herman 4223
              What sources do you have?

              The fact of the matter is that the PT-76 was not sculpted exclusively for scouts. It should have been a light floating tank, not a reconnaissance vehicle. From the sources in this case, Mikhail Baryatinsky is relatively good.
            2. Alexdark
              Alexdark 4 March 2018 22: 34
              0
              Yah. So the "terminator" did. It seems cool, but no one wants to buy, because it is not clear why it is necessary.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 6 March 2018 20: 19
                +1
                A task for such a machine was issued back in the USSR, and there were prototypes of such a machine. First, a task is issued (based on requirements), and then a technique is created for this task and nothing else.
          2. NKT
            NKT 4 March 2018 19: 08
            +1
            PT-76 were in reconnaissance (tank company) divisions and in tank regiments (reconnaissance)
        2. moskowit
          moskowit 4 March 2018 14: 57
          +17
          PT-76, which was an order of magnitude larger than the linear T-54.

          What kind of "fashion" went. To the place and to the place to use the mathematical term "order" ....
          “An order of magnitude” means ten times more or less, two, respectively, a hundred, etc.
          In your opinion, dear, the PT-76 was 10 times larger than the T-54 ???
        3. seti
          seti 4 March 2018 14: 59
          +6
          Why not promising? Watching for what purpose. Nobody has canceled the modularity. If it’s meant for export, then the tool is most likely to be chosen by the customer.
      4. seti
        seti 4 March 2018 15: 12
        +1
        On the same topic http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5006657
      5. Kars
        Kars 4 March 2018 16: 17
        +3
        There should be a photo of the Bismarck of South Africa, and a Japanese krakozyabra with a tower from type 90
    2. ratfly
      ratfly 4 March 2018 12: 23
      +1
      So those are the tank!
    3. san4es
      san4es 4 March 2018 12: 23
      +11
      Quote: Kars
      Nda) why is asked ?.

      ... For the desert and roads (Europe)
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 4 March 2018 12: 46
        +1
        And what does ZE not suit you? Great road network ...
        1. K-50
          K-50 4 March 2018 13: 19
          +12
          Quote: Vlad.by
          And what does ZE not suit you? Great road network ...

          What for? It’s better to clean everything up to ashes so that no one barks at Russia for a very long time. And then you know already tired. They will be rescued, and after a dozen other years, a howl begins from beyond the mound. And so the territory and silence were sterilized ... (Here you need a picture from the "Elusive" with Savely Kramarov in a hat) laughing
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 4 March 2018 13: 47
            +3
            Quote: K-50
            What for? It’s better to clean everything up to the ashes,

            drinks
      2. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 4 March 2018 13: 59
        +3
        Quote: san4es
        For desert and roads (Europe)

        Given that the bulk of the database is now in urban areas, where wheeled vehicles are not always convenient, this is not a fact. And for our open spaces something better is caterpillar. It is better to Sprut-SD or BMP-3-125 fit.
        Rather, CTs are offered as a substitute for MBT in light crews in which wheeled vehicles have a higher travel speed.
        1. just exp
          just exp 4 March 2018 14: 22
          +3
          this is for quick response teams.
          ours, therefore, looked at the Italian centaur.
          1. igordok
            igordok 4 March 2018 17: 16
            +1
            Quote: just explo
            this is for quick response teams.
            ours, therefore, looked at the Italian centaur.

            Wheel tanks are blitzkrieg weapons. And in my understanding: Russia and the blitzkrieg are incompatible concepts.
            1. IL-18
              IL-18 4 March 2018 18: 09
              +2
              Why would it be incompatible? Ask and organize a blitzkrieg. Everything depends on the General Staff, they will decide what to do with the adversary.
            2. cast iron
              cast iron 4 March 2018 21: 42
              +4
              I dare to recall that the operations of the Red Army in 1944-1945 were essentially a blitzkrieg.
          2. Alf
            Alf 4 March 2018 21: 37
            0
            Quote: just EXPL
            this is for quick response teams.
            ours, therefore, looked at the Italian centaur.

            Have you looked at IVECO for the same reason? Just someone good rolled back to someone.
    4. Square
      Square 4 March 2018 12: 24
      +2
      Maybe so as not to spoil the road?
      Leclercists are transported on special platforms for this purpose.
      Although
      What roads do we have?) And the cross-country ability on wheels will probably be lower ...
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 March 2018 12: 28
        +61
        Quote: Square
        Maybe so as not to spoil the road?

        It is in France that tanks spoil the road. With us - they are laying
        1. Monos
          Monos 4 March 2018 13: 12
          +7
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          It is in France that tanks spoil the road. With us - they are laying

          laughing good Yes, we have such a tradition.
          1. Arzoo
            Arzoo 4 March 2018 14: 27
            0
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            It is in France that tanks spoil the road. With us - they are laying

            Well, Ukraine is also taken into account, why spoil the infrastructure, which then restore it? But in general, most likely for BV and Africa.
        2. K-50
          K-50 4 March 2018 13: 21
          +3
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          It is in France that tanks spoil the road. With us - they are laying

          On our roads and tanks sometimes drown. laughing
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 4 March 2018 12: 33
        0
        Quote: Square
        Maybe so as not to spoil the road?

        Forgot to specify - "European roads".
      3. Alexx40in
        Alexx40in 4 March 2018 12: 36
        +3
        An analogue of the Striker brigades, for the unification of the base within one unit. There will be armored personnel carriers with a pelemet, MBP with an automatic gun 30mm or 57mm) and, possibly, wheeled tanks. What they will not be clear yet. We don’t seem to have 100mm high ballistic guns; 125mm is hardly suitable.
        1. Genry
          Genry 4 March 2018 13: 11
          +4
          Quote: Alexx40in
          We don’t seem to have 100mm high ballistic guns; 125mm is hardly suitable.

          Well, in 100 mm there is a smooth-bore Rapier. The most optimal gun for the destruction of fortified firing points and the bulk of the armored vehicles. Her Syrians are very respected ... Well, they do not like to shoot with mathematical calculations, give them direct fire.
          This is the largest unitary projectile that a normal person can handle without overvoltage.
          If there was an automatic loader with a high rate of fire, then this combat module would become a hit of wheeled armored vehicles.
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 4 March 2018 13: 20
          +4
          Quote: Alexx40in
          An analogue of the Striker brigades, for the unification of the base within one unit. There will be armored personnel carriers with a pelemet, MBP with an automatic gun 30mm or 57mm) and, possibly, wheeled tanks. What they will not be clear yet. We don’t seem to have 100mm high ballistic guns; 125mm is hardly suitable.


          Syria reincarnated 57 mm from the C60 but then the Syrian Kamaz with a 57 mm cannon can be called a tank laughing
        3. Setrac
          Setrac 4 March 2018 13: 40
          0
          Quote: Alexx40in
          We don’t seem to have 100mm high ballistic guns; 125mm is hardly suitable.

          NONU put to support the infantry.
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 5 March 2018 22: 00
            0
            Quote: Setrac
            NONU put to support the infantry.

            Well, yes, the second barrel to the weaving or 125-ke.
            That would be a bomb! True, an articulated conveyor is needed for this. Yes, and BC will be normal.
      4. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 4 March 2018 12: 49
        +3
        Quote: Square
        Maybe so as not to spoil the road?

        Well, yes, on the sides to make the inscriptions, “Rosgvardia,” and on the top you can all kinds of “democratizers,” pandalize - and the roads are safe and people ... uh ... women still give birth ..
        1. Genry
          Genry 4 March 2018 13: 33
          0
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          and people ... uh ... women still give birth ..

          Well, in Russia, the natural process of the population is normal. This is for you (in your particular territory), everything is in the style of pi .. (hto knows it) ... aces.
          1. DEDPIHTO
            DEDPIHTO 4 March 2018 14: 30
            +2
            Quote: Genry
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            and people ... uh ... women still give birth ..

            Well, in Russia, the natural process of the population is normal. This is for you (in your particular territory), everything is in the style of pi .. (hto knows it) ... aces.

            Real Rosgvardeets! good laughing Whatever the line is a pearl! ..- the natural process of the population is normal- what request lol
            1. Genry
              Genry 4 March 2018 15: 08
              0
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              Real Rosgvardeets!

              And you are a real Russophobe! Very scary?

              About "itches in immodest places." You forgot to take out the vibrator ...
              1. cast iron
                cast iron 4 March 2018 21: 45
                +2
                Wake up, Rosgvardeets, even the corrupt bourgeois media in Russia are reporting a decline in population growth to minus. It was to improve the situation that Putin introduced payments of 10000 rubles per month for the first child born.
                1. Genry
                  Genry 5 March 2018 12: 12
                  0
                  Hey, liberal, and here Putin didn’t please you?

                  Author: Konstantin Karyaev - own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=4
                  8538322
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 5 March 2018 17: 42
                    +3
                    Quote: Genry
                    Author: Konstantin Karyaev

                    A little continue for 2016-2017?
                    In 2017, the natural decline was −134.456 people, i.e. Karyaev’s curves parted again
      5. KCA
        KCA 4 March 2018 13: 10
        +1
        In fact, tanks and self-propelled guns are also transported in peacetime on special platforms, before there was a MAZ-537, now I don’t know, maybe the main base
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 4 March 2018 14: 58
          +3
          It used to be a march to the nearest ramp - and by train, by train wassat
          1. KCA
            KCA 4 March 2018 22: 27
            0
            And so, too, I know, mounted tanks on platforms, which is surprising, in the very PPC of the army, in 1993 not a single tank fell from the platform, everything was fixed
      6. Alf
        Alf 4 March 2018 21: 41
        +2
        Quote: Square
        Maybe so as not to spoil the road?
        Leclercists are transported on special platforms for this purpose.

        In fact, tank transporters were invented to save the resource of tanks. The safety of roads here is in last place.
    5. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 4 March 2018 12: 24
      +1
      Quote: Kars
      Nda) why is asked?
      And if it’s straight, put a tower from the octopus and kaz on the boomerang chassis.

      So Kars came from Germany hehe
      Let them try different things, let’s find the main middle ground ...
    6. Observer2014
      Observer2014 4 March 2018 12: 32
      +1
      Kars
      Nda) why is asked?
      Kanibalov on the steppes to drive to make it more convenient., Temporarily occupied the land of Kievan Rus.
    7. poquello
      poquello 4 March 2018 12: 50
      0
      Quote: Kars
      Nda) why is asked?
      And if it’s straight, put a tower from the octopus and kaz on the boomerang chassis.

      from armata
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 4 March 2018 13: 17
        +6
        Quote: poquello
        Quote: Kars
        Nda) why is asked?
        And if it’s straight, put a tower from the octopus and kaz on the boomerang chassis.

        from armata


        I remembered a joke .. about an airplane with a pool, a cinema hall, a football field and a tennis court ... and now with all this xx ... th we’ll try to take off ... and here ... a two-story shed will work ... I suggest waiting at least approximate characteristics to understand whether it will be a tank ..
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 4 March 2018 16: 44
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          I suggest waiting at least approximate characteristics in order to understand whether it will be a tank.

          Call a priest, pay him according to the price list the rite of baptism of this product in a tank and voila! -Tank in front of you! You need to learn everything, yourself request ... Eh, youth ... fool
          Hi, Migratory! drinks
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 March 2018 20: 00
            +2
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            Hi, Migratory


            great ... drinks
    8. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 4 March 2018 13: 06
      +1
      As I understand it, the author STAR looked before me)))))
    9. vorobey
      vorobey 4 March 2018 13: 09
      +4
      Quote: Kars
      Nda) why is asked?
      And if it’s straight, put a tower from the octopus and kaz on the boomerang chassis.


      Hi Andrew, nice to see you again ... drinks the flag is not native why?

      Rather, these are experiments with modules ... there will be no session ... remember, spears were already breaking when discussing centaurs laughing
      1. Kars
        Kars 4 March 2018 13: 30
        +8
        So I about that) centaurs were discussed and how they behave in Iraq where the desert and good roads showed themselves poorly.

        Check box due to anonymizer
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 4 March 2018 13: 34
          +2
          Quote: Kars
          So I about that) centaurs were discussed and how they behave in Iraq where the desert and good roads showed themselves poorly.

          Check box due to anonymizer



          understandably... winked
      2. AUL
        AUL 4 March 2018 13: 32
        +1
        It would be more interesting for me to find out the opinion of the Ministry of Defense on this issue (needed - not needed) than to read dubious attempts at wit from local "experts".
        1. Anti-Corr.
          Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 13: 40
          0
          Quote: AUL
          It would be more interesting for me to find out the opinion of the Ministry of Defense on this issue (needed - not needed) than to read dubious attempts at wit from local "experts".

          I recall the shots from the “Armata” which had stalled in the middle of Red Square and the Moscow Region voted in rubles for the release of the Soviet modernization of the T-72.
          Obviously, even if such a project is considered, it’s just a little “cut”. .
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 4 March 2018 13: 56
            +4
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            Quote: AUL
            It would be more interesting for me to find out the opinion of the Ministry of Defense on this issue (needed - not needed) than to read dubious attempts at wit from local "experts".

            I recall the shots from the “Armata” which had stalled in the middle of Red Square and the Moscow Region voted in rubles for the release of the Soviet modernization of the T-72.
            Obviously, even if such a project is considered, it’s just a little “cut”. .


            It would be better if you were silent ... or rummaged in the archives of the VO then you might have found an explanation why you voted for modernization 72 .. And about the 14 valves that are being tested now .. made a bold assumption that they will remain an intermediate option for a fully robotic complex. .
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 14: 04
              +1
              Quote: vorobey
              It would be better if you were silent ... or rummaged in the archives of VO then you might have found an explanation why you voted for modernization 72.

              The MO explained that Armata is a very expensive tank for the current conditions. And the second moment, there is no ammunition under the gun of Armata, or rather there is nowhere to release them, there is no factory.
              But this is off topic, but on the topic it must be said briefly that for the Russian Federation a wheeled tank is not needed at all.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 4 March 2018 14: 08
                +5
                And Armata is not needed yet ... with the defensive doctrine T72B3 and T90 successfully solve defense problems ... I repeat IMHO the armata will remain in 14 copies as a derivative of the robot ... (that's how her appearance was predicted and I feel it) hi

                and about wheel tanks I agree with you ... except for the export piggy bank?
                1. Anti-Corr.
                  Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 14: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: vorobey
                  And Armata is not needed yet ...

                  We will leave Armata for fun PR-"Mihan", but the developments will certainly come in handy, the same can be said about Boomerang. But the theme of the robot tank (a kind of “white tiger” with artificial intelligence) is very relevant now, and tomorrow it will already be a reality. The main thing is not to be late. hi
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 4 March 2018 14: 30
                    +3
                    Quote: Anti-Corr.
                    But the theme of the tank robot is very relevant now, and tomorrow it will already be a reality.


                    therefore, I would not be surprised that now (hypothetically) on all armatures there is an additional on-board computer that scans and analyzes all the actions of the crew starting from finding the target. the priority of the goal of choosing weapons and ammunition, target designation and aiming considering vulnerabilities and lead-ins .. and the crews for them are already preparing in the World of Tanks laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Anti-Corr.
                      Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 14: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: vorobey
                      and the crews are already preparing for them in the World of Tanks

                      That's right! drinks laughing
                      1. vorobey
                        vorobey 4 March 2018 14: 42
                        +4
                        Quote: Anti-Corr.
                        Quote: vorobey
                        and the crews are already preparing for them in the World of Tanks

                        That's right! drinks laughing


                        laughter laughter and yet this is a real example of network-centric warfare. except for one element - control ..
          2. Blackgrifon
            Blackgrifon 4 March 2018 14: 02
            +2
            Quote: Anti-Corr.
            I remember the frames from the stalled in the middle of Red Square "Armata"

            But how did she later go off the frames, comrade thinkolyuk?
          3. KCA
            KCA 5 March 2018 17: 43
            0
            You are probably not orienting yourself in Moscow, “Armata” did not get to Red Square with the mountain brake that worked, and if the question worries you so much, I can say that I was an eyewitness to the parades several times, once on November 7, I watched the others on Pushkinskaya Square, all the equipment was driving along Tverskaya, and so, in addition to passing vehicles, there were several tractors that quickly drove out stalled artillery and tanks into the yards so as not to interfere with the passage of columns, and this was a 40-year victory, I personally saw how 2 self-propelled guns were dragged into the yard, I remember 40 well XNUMX years of victory, there was a frost in the morning, I was warming myself in a telephone box, so the windows were covered with hoarfrost
      3. poquello
        poquello 4 March 2018 13: 58
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        Rather, these are experiments with modules

        in
    10. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 4 March 2018 13: 23
      +1
      Nda) why is asked?
      Why, just in case, for a tourist ride on the autobahns! laughing
    11. max702
      max702 4 March 2018 13: 44
      +3
      Sense is not the slightest! Today, the main threat is not the enemy’s BT, but the infantry massively equipped with anti-aircraft weapons. to fight against it, you still need a gun with the most effective HE projectile .. for this purpose everything has been around for a long time, namely the self-propelled guns “Vienna” (with a projectile close in effectiveness to 152mm) and like the middle ground of the “Bahcha-U” triad .. The only thing to focus on is improving the SLA and ammunition .. and that it is especially necessary to protect these systems with tank armor for combat stability .. And wheeled tanks, like the Octopus-style craft, are dead-end solutions with a very dubious need ..
      pc: "Generals are preparing for past wars .."
    12. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 March 2018 14: 01
      +2
      He said this on the air of the program "Military Acceptance".
    13. Hammerlock
      Hammerlock 4 March 2018 15: 28
      +1
      Well, yes, in the KB some fools are sitting, they forgot to ask your advice
    14. Geksagena
      Geksagena 4 March 2018 17: 42
      +1
      Speed, mobility. Jihad mobil is a new tactic. This means that the same mobile tank formations are needed, this will increase the efficiency of lightning operations, coverage, operations in the rear, etc. etc.
    15. Mustached Kok
      Mustached Kok 4 March 2018 18: 57
      +1
      Well, it is possible to strengthen the groupings of troops where open spaces with a solid surface (steppes and deserts) and regions with a developed network of roads and highways (European direction) predominate. It is also worth noting that such machines perform well in counter-terrorist operations, in its independence of climate and geography. So it can go on sale to other countries.
    16. Maz
      Maz 4 March 2018 19: 17
      0
      Undoubtedly, if you stick a nuclear engine there, you can make it the size of an aircraft carrier wassat laughing
    17. iouris
      iouris 5 March 2018 01: 57
      0
      I do not understand why put a boomerang on the chassis? We must ask those who "ate Cook."
  2. 210ox
    210ox 4 March 2018 12: 21
    +2
    I understand that the "Boomerang" should be put in series. Well, but maybe the tank is for export. And by the way, what is the breakthrough? Similar systems have long been produced by fenders, paddlers and pasta
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 4 March 2018 13: 33
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      Similar systems have long been produced by fenders, paddles and pasta

      The latter even acquired a couple of units in the nulls, "for trial." They were going to be seriously purchased by the Centaurs. Fortunately, let it go. yes
    2. Anti-Corr.
      Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 16: 48
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      I understand that the "Boomerang" should be put in series
      Why and where? This "Boomerang" is more expensive than a helicopter and at the same time very comfortable eleven local coffin.
  3. Square
    Square 4 March 2018 12: 22
    0
    Only read about armored cars))
    Cool)
  4. cats
    cats 4 March 2018 12: 22
    +2
    Know how ... no competitors ..
    This article decided to return to the site of the sons of Israel? .. laughing
  5. Izotovp
    Izotovp 4 March 2018 12: 23
    +7
    Another unparalleled world ?!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 March 2018 13: 11
      +7
      Not. Everyone has long been in the series. Moreover, in active databases for years as 20. The same AMX-10RC - the colonies are held in a fist.

      Even the Chinese sent their wheeled tanks to Djibouti.
    2. cariperpaint
      cariperpaint 4 March 2018 13: 27
      +2
      has no analogues this is a common thing. we have no analogues of such wheeled vehicles yet. and that no one neighs.
  6. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 4 March 2018 12: 23
    +6
    Shaw, again lacking analogues in the world of Russian know-how? Know-how, one asks? Armata, Kurganets, Su-57 and other already existing nishtyaks would be mastered.
  7. tchoni
    tchoni 4 March 2018 12: 23
    +4
    Again there will be “(and maybe it will not ...), again“ Russian know-how ”(one might think of all sorts of“ ruicates ”,“ centaurs ”,“ saga ”and AMXy this is not the same) .... hi
    1. co-creator
      co-creator 5 March 2018 00: 20
      0
      Is CENTAUR produced in the Russian Federation? It seems like they specifically explained that this is Russian know-how, and not world-wide.
  8. LASVEGAS
    LASVEGAS 4 March 2018 12: 23
    0
    "we have plans today .." Klitschko, did he hide his brother ?!
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    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 4 March 2018 12: 38
      0
      Quote: Nikolai Passerby
      Is a tank on a wheeled platform a know-how? ... However!

      By "know-how", apparently, the Boomerang platform itself is meant, and not what the tank will be on a wheeled chassis.
  10. Klaus
    Klaus 4 March 2018 12: 32
    0
    lol Wow ... how significant, literally in the header of the resource I see next to each other:
    - China is modernizing its drone drone.
    - RF creates a tank on a wheeled platform
    ... A curtain!
    In the Russian Federation create targets for shock drones
    It’s like in a joke: no matter what they come up with at the VAZ, the result is always a “Zhigulenok”
    So it is here: no matter how high technology comes to the military-industrial complex - in the end, you always get a tank or BMP
    1. ML-334
      ML-334 4 March 2018 12: 59
      +1
      Imagine bang and there is no connection, electronics in the trash and only tanks with a high-pressure pump on engines proudly gather dust across the expanses of Europe.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 4 March 2018 13: 15
      +9
      China already has its own wheeled tank.

      This is a bit different.
      According to modern calculations - wheeled units (armored personnel carriers + MRAP, Stryker brigades, etc.) - should have effective means of destruction and suppression of firing points that would follow at a pace. Conventional tanks cannot keep pace especially in developed areas (roads). Therefore, either the unit is slowed down or as in 8.8.8 - wheel groups on the BTR-80 are driven into a raid without the support of something serious, at your own peril and risk.
  11. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 4 March 2018 12: 34
    +1
    Very reasonable! Guska and sand is not buzzing!
  12. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 4 March 2018 12: 37
    +4
    Our plans today are to make a wheeled tank,
    Boomerang is being prepared for the series in the RF Armed Forces. So they are doing export developments to financially facilitate "their" series. Although there is probably a limited niche in your army, the same Turkestan will probably soon blaze ..
  13. prodi
    prodi 4 March 2018 12: 37
    +1
    oh drank ... equipment on a wheelbase should only be light, maneuverable and floating
    1. Genry
      Genry 4 March 2018 13: 41
      +2
      And your training manual does not say that the boomerang is a floating platform! Plus still hung on the sides, increasing buoyancy elements
      1. prodi
        prodi 4 March 2018 13: 56
        0
        Of course, I agree that the BTR-90 - 70 family needs to be changed, but is it a monster? recourse
  14. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 4 March 2018 12: 37
    +1
    Quote: Square
    Maybe so as not to spoil the road?
    Leclercists are transported on special platforms for this purpose.
    Although
    What roads do we have?) And the cross-country ability on wheels will probably be lower ...

    At the expense of patency: in the Far North, in the tundra ... where no pneumatic climbs on tracks, except on rubber, that of equipment on skis ...
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 4 March 2018 13: 07
      0
      Quote: Hurricane70
      At the expense of patency: in the Far North, in the tundra ... where no pneumatic climbs on tracks, except on rubber, that of equipment on skis ...

      Tank wedges in the tundra? Probably cooler than half a liter in the steppe.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 4 March 2018 13: 41
      +2
      Egor from a tubercle, it seems to me, in the far north and the tundra pneuma will not help. Here we need something else ...
    3. Genry
      Genry 4 March 2018 13: 51
      0
      Quote: Hurricane70
      At the expense of patency: in the Far North, in the tundra ... where no pneumatic climbs on tracks, except on rubber, that of equipment on skis ...

      You obviously do not know that tracked vehicles have much less pressure on the ground than wheeled vehicles.
      Wheeled is simpler and cheaper. So they are tormented with huge and heavy wheels, which from weak internal pressure, are strongly deformed and fail more quickly. But they give an advantage on general roads, where by raising the pressure, you can drive at an acceptable speed of about 60 km / h. (such wheels not can accelerate more due to design limitations).
  15. Herculesic
    Herculesic 4 March 2018 12: 38
    +1
    What are the next-tracked nuclear submarines? ICBMs running on the ground on a thousand small legs?
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 4 March 2018 13: 09
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      What are the next-tracked nuclear submarines?

      And what? Quietly sneak up to the adversary at the bottom, dig in and calmly wait for day “D” and hour “H”.
    2. Genry
      Genry 4 March 2018 13: 57
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      What are the next-tracked nuclear submarines? ICBMs running on the ground on a thousand small legs?

      No! Just not the tracks!
      It’s better to feed huge worms on Hercules, put them on hooks and let them drag them - drag them ...
  16. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 4 March 2018 12: 40
    +3
    Quote: Izotovp
    Another unparalleled world ?!

    Another vsepropodalostalovrutnaglovets?
  17. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 4 March 2018 12: 40
    +1
    Quote: prodi
    oh drank ... equipment on a wheelbase should only be light, maneuverable and floating

    I drank a snack!
  18. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 March 2018 12: 42
    0
    We have plans to make a wheeled tank today.

    Even I did not understand. Is it an order of the Ministry of Defense, or another initiative of the plant, followed by beging money from the Moscow Region for not asking?
  19. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 4 March 2018 12: 42
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Passerby
    Is a tank on a wheeled platform a know-how? ... However!

    And think about it?
    1. Nikolai Passerby
      Nikolai Passerby 4 March 2018 13: 17
      0
      Quote: Hurricane70
      To think

      Think ... This is a good thing.
  20. armourer
    armourer 4 March 2018 12: 42
    +2
    Maneuvers matter, + quick transfer. This is a universal tank bmp
  21. ZVO
    ZVO 4 March 2018 12: 43
    +2
    Know-how again ...
    Well, now it’s clear how deep .. is happening in our defense industry ..
    The production of armored personnel carriers is carried out by the Military Industrial Company LLC
    if damn the general director of the company engaged in the production of armored vehicles does not know that one of the best examples of a successful serial wheeled tank has turned 43 years old.
    That he was born even earlier. what was born Krasovitsky ..
    What for?
    Dumb top management in the entire defense industry.
    Just dumb ...
    Sheer nepotism.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 4 March 2018 13: 12
      +1
      Quote: ZVO
      Know-how again ...

      Well, it’s like it’s about “Russian” know-how. Like never been like this, but right now - here, admire.
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 4 March 2018 13: 46
      0
      Do not worry.
      Grudinin (fired from a rocket launcher - boots flew) will come - he will restore order.
  22. mavrus
    mavrus 4 March 2018 12: 54
    0
    Quote: san4es
    Quote: Kars
    Nda) why is asked ?.

    ... For the desert and roads (Europe)

    Well, South Africa has something to do with it, they drive partisans across the Namibian desert on these tanks.
  23. unignm
    unignm 4 March 2018 13: 04
    0
    what's the use of it? What are the benefits?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 March 2018 13: 20
      +6
      Logically, if they will do wheeled units (like Americans or Chinese). Then they must go at the same pace and support APCs with fire, suppress firing points, etc.

      What classic tanks cannot do, because they will lag behind (or the wheel group will move at the speed of the slowest unit - then the question is, why do we need wheeled vehicles at all?).
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 4 March 2018 13: 23
        +5
        Also in Mali, for example, the tactics of mobile gain groups are actively used. 1-2 AMX-10RC + several armored cars / platoon-two Frenchmen actually keep the 20-30km section, being in the rear, is relatively safe. But if there is an attack on the blocks of local government forces, they provide prompt arrival at the battlefield.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 4 March 2018 13: 45
        +3
        Quote: donavi49
        What classic tanks cannot do, as they will lag behind

        They are called tanks only by the presence of a tank caliber gun, and in fact - wheeled self-propelled guns.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 4 March 2018 13: 59
          +2
          So that’s the point. These are mobile fire platforms with tank guns. Which have an adult range of shells. And they can effectively support the highly mobile wheeled connection as part of armored personnel carriers / armored vehicles, MPAP trucks - in battle. Suppress detectable firing points. And with tanks not of the first freshness, due to the advanced SLA they have very good chances, at least to force them to leave threatened positions.
      3. Alf
        Alf 4 March 2018 21: 49
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        Logically, if they will do wheeled units (like Americans or Chinese). Then they must go at the same pace and support APCs with fire, suppress firing points, etc.

        And please specify, with what REAL speed do such columns go? Only about 60-70-80 is not necessary. Well, if the ground speed is 25-30 km / h.
        1. yehat
          yehat 5 March 2018 11: 31
          +1
          in South Africa, on specially constructed rocky roads, 80 km / h is a very real convoy speed.
          1. Alf
            Alf 5 March 2018 21: 35
            0
            Quote: yehat
            in South Africa, on specially constructed rocky roads, 80 km / h is a very real convoy speed.

            That South Africa, and then Russia .. And how about 80 known?
            1. yehat
              yehat 9 March 2018 19: 09
              0
              from real fighting.
  24. Dietmar
    Dietmar 4 March 2018 13: 07
    +1
    Tanks, tanks in Paris,
    Once again, the Yankees are drowning in Lamans ...
  25. Bosch
    Bosch 4 March 2018 13: 12
    +1
    Such machines will also find application.
  26. K-50
    K-50 4 March 2018 13: 15
    +3
    The tank on the Boomerang wheeled platform will be developed soon

    If only for export. It was under Taburetkin, studies were conducted that showed that in the conditions of our country, wheeled BBMs lose in reliability in conditions of battle and caterpillar patency. And again on the same "rake"? what
  27. Hiller
    Hiller 4 March 2018 13: 17
    +2
    "vague doubts torment me" ..... and what for a goat button accordion? ... motorized rifle regiments on an armored personnel carrier, the same on BMP - it is clear, they are. Wheel tanks and tracked "Terminators" with the same motorized rifles? .... It looks like nagging and cutting budget money .. That’s the modernization of equipment. T-72, T-80 stored. That is “Armata”, “Boomerang”, “Kurganets”. "Terminator" .... You already decide somehow .... your pocket is not rubber ... and time is expensive. "With one hand for Sisu and ... everything else can not be grabbed." Crews still need to be taught. Yes, and issues of combat use and technical support to solve ...
  28. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 4 March 2018 13: 19
    0
    With a 30 mm gun it’s rather like an IFV, if a tank is to be made, then a tank cannon is needed.
  29. Lesorub
    Lesorub 4 March 2018 13: 23
    +1
    Wheel tank - well done, it's high time! Suitable for various theater of operations, for operational connections.
  30. loginovich
    loginovich 4 March 2018 13: 24
    +1
    The tank on the Boomerang wheeled platform will be developed in the near future, it will be Russian know-how, the General Director of the Military-Industrial Company (MIC) Alexander Krasovitsky reports to RIA Novosti.


    And where are the Russian know-how?
  31. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 4 March 2018 13: 24
    0
    Intended to sell to enemies, I suppose ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 March 2018 13: 30
      +2
      Enemies and even allies themselves wheel tank exporters if that. Therefore, they will not buy.
  32. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 4 March 2018 13: 35
    +3
    Now banks are privatizing and they will belong to the USA ... What bank there (privatized) in 2017 refused to finance the military-industrial complex. So what? Will the Americans finance all these plants and design bureaus that create weapons? Run away! And the plans for this year are to merge all the banks into private hands. It is likely that they will become the owners of Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, Poroshenko ...
    And will they create rockets, aircraft tanks for Russia?
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 March 2018 21: 51
      0
      Quote: pafegosoff
      Now banks are privatizing and they will belong to the USA ... What bank there (privatized) in 2017 refused to finance the military-industrial complex. So what? Will the Americans finance all these plants and design bureaus that create weapons? Run away! And the plans for this year are to merge all the banks into private hands. It is likely that they will become the owners of Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, Poroshenko ...

      The guarantor will not allow, he is a frantic patriot of Russia. laughing
  33. Evil 55
    Evil 55 4 March 2018 13: 44
    0
    Judging by the installed tires, this toy is clearly not for Russian conditions ..
  34. APASUS
    APASUS 4 March 2018 14: 00
    +3
    As for the wheeled tank for the Russian Armed Forces, what goals can be solved with such a machine? The machine is more suitable for expeditionary forces, capture large areas. How much do we need? I have only one thought. Most likely they want to compete for a place in the sun, all for sale.
    And for the purchase in the Armed Forces, everything again rests in financial capabilities, ours of course will create a cool car, but the MO will choose a budget option
  35. Nikolai Petrov
    Nikolai Petrov 4 March 2018 14: 06
    0
    Wheeled?! We have?! Come on ***! Have they really learned from the "great" tank builders? Or the madness of "Field Marshal" Taburetkin revived ?! (about the pasta centaur). It would not hurt to deal with this "project" to the relevant authorities.
  36. XXXIII
    XXXIII 4 March 2018 14: 14
    0
    Head of the Main Armored Directorate of the Department
    Alexander Shevchenko;
    “Each machine is born against the background of requirements, and requirements are set by the forms and methods of using military equipment. If such a machine is needed, I have no doubt that our tank builders will do it. ”
    “The Americans have problems with this car; the Italians have achieved the greatest success. We studied their car: the creation of a wheeled tank is a very high-tech process. It is necessary to solve the issues of firepower and suspension - this is not so simple, ”said the lieutenant general. “In addition, such machines have a rather narrow scope,” he added.
    https://defendingrussia.ru/a/kolesnyje_tanki_armi
    i_rossii_poka_ne_nuzhny-6278 /

    I also see no problems in creating this machine, if necessary, then it is necessary ..... laughing

  37. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 4 March 2018 14: 18
    +2
    Quote: Kotischa
    Quote: seti
    There is a gun 125mm. Think so easy?

    In modern conditions, a smaller caliber gun for a wheeled tank is not promising. Although so and so a wheeled tank on a boomerang platform will be simply huge and unambiguously larger and higher than the T90. By the way, the story repeats at one time in the USSR, the PT-76 reconnaissance units were adopted, which was an order of magnitude larger than the linear T-54.


    Once it was impossible to place a 30 mm automatic machine on a wheeled platform, so it’s a matter of time. I don’t argue about the dimensions, but just a tank on a wheeled platform will definitely be sick mobile. Not in terms of cross-country ability, but in the ability to get to the right place on your own, and not on the trawl or railway platform. And all the caterpillar equipment is thrown only this way. I do not argue that there will be many shortcomings in such a tank, in terms of vulnerability mainly, but at least a few battalions on such tanks would not hurt us, because of their larger mobility in case of fuss Novena to sudden situations where in a short time will require strengthening fire moschi.Da and should not compare them with OBT.Eto would just light wheeled tank with high mobility, crossing the ability to swim through water obstacles and a live performance is higher than that of modern IFV.
  38. Samara_63
    Samara_63 4 March 2018 14: 26
    0
    And buy a license?
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 March 2018 21: 53
      +1
      Quote: Samara_63
      And buy a license?

      Who ? And who will sell it? And in what form? How Iveco, from the kit to collect and screw their nameplates?
  39. Radikal
    Radikal 4 March 2018 14: 41
    0
    As I understand it, this 30-ton piece of iron does not swim? winked
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 March 2018 14: 48
      +3
      It floats, like all modern equipment in an easy (most likely standard order for MO) modification.

      Additional reservation sets go to it, which can be screwed in the troops, before the combat exit. With them she already swims like an ax.
  40. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 4 March 2018 14: 51
    +5
    Quote: Evil 55
    Judging by the installed tires, this toy is clearly not for Russian conditions ..


    We have a decent number of military bases abroad. In the fleets of military vehicles there is only wheeled vehicles, because the movement of tracked vehicles on highways during the non-threatening period is prohibited, and there are practically no parallel dirt roads, this is not Russia with its vastness. Tracked vehicles are in separate field parks outside settlements and is guarded by a few guards, sometimes tens of kilometers from the location of military units. In case of alarm, the personnel of the units of tracked vehicles (tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled guns, and hundreds of fighters) is advanced to the location of the equipment in the Urals. This takes several hours. In principle, the exercises fit into all standards and do not lead to a breakdown in combat readiness. But this is during exercises in a peaceful period. In the real situation, for example, take Tajikistan , a civil war broke out or tons of militants Eagles poured into the offensive from abroad, in the cities riots, shooting, streets are blocked by abandoned and burned-out cars, in settlements and beyond their borders host enemy DRGs, in these conditions x our guys need to make their way to their equipment in ordinary tented Urals, only personal weapons will be out of arms, that is, machine guns and a minimum of b / c, yes, maybe the armored group from the armored personnel carrier will cover the convoy, but even a motorized rifle company with 10 armored personnel carriers will not be able to cover the convoy dozens of Urals, which will stretch for several kilometers. I’m silent about the fact that the few guards that guard the equipment are likely to be immediately destroyed and the enemy will take possession of all the armor. So such wheeled tanks are needed at least in military bases abroad, where case harvesting tens of thousands of our soldiers.
  41. Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 March 2018 15: 01
    +5
    Quote: AUL
    It would be more interesting for me to find out the opinion of the Ministry of Defense on this issue (needed - not needed) than to read dubious attempts at wit from local "experts".

    As with the Terminator it was: UVZ - we will prove to the Moscow Region that they need it! laughing
  42. Anti-Corr.
    Anti-Corr. 4 March 2018 15: 03
    0
    vorobey,
    Quote: vorobey
    laughter laughter and yet this is a real example of network-centric warfare. except for one element - control ..

    I also thought about this for a long time, because this is a kind of modeling of fairly realistic actions, a kind of simulator-simulator. The same can be said about aviation, because for a person, in the near future, overloads will become prohibitive, but here an uninhabited aircraft is already asking itself.
  43. wer2
    wer2 4 March 2018 15: 32
    0
    In the Russian Federation will create a tank on a wheeled platform

    And this is at a time when the whole world refuses to release and use these self-propelled targets.
  44. k_ply
    k_ply 4 March 2018 15: 36
    +3
    Export, rather. We need a tall Boomerang with a relatively light DBMS as an amphibian for the Marine Corps (stability with 3 points of sea swell is a usual requirement), and with a 105-125-mm cannon it will completely lose all seaworthiness.
    By the way, again, cars suffer from disgusting negative angles of vertical guidance of the weapon due to the height of the hull and the strong displacement of the DBM to the stern (IMHO).
    T.N. "wheeled tank" still involves a power unit in the stern ("Ruikat"), a classic layout.
    1. k_ply
      k_ply 4 March 2018 19: 25
      0
      I will add. There are MBTs and Sprut-SD airborne forces with high-ballistic guns (maneuverable, capable of deploying in place, operation is much cheaper than Abrams and Leclerc), it’s enough to create a 120 mm Nona / Vienna SAO (8x8), and you can not suffer the Franco-Italo-Hispanic-South African armored cavalry. The same amer. "Striker" brigades (the latest type of their SV formations) were formed only due to the air transportability of the Striker BM with the main S-130 Hercules MTC, i.e. thanks, in addition to tactical, also strategic and operational mobility of these parts, because US airborne formations (light infantry in fact), even after the landing method of landing, do not have sufficient combat stability due to the lack of armored vehicles and mobile / self-propelled firing squadrons, compared to domestic airborne forces.
  45. Dikson
    Dikson 4 March 2018 15: 48
    +1
    A young and energetic general director of an enterprise manufacturing armored vehicles in a story about a wheeled tank: "a larger gun will be used .." Gun. Larger Diameter. Sumptuously.
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 March 2018 21: 54
      0
      Quote: Dikson
      Young and energetic CEO

      Another effective manager.
  46. jovanni
    jovanni 4 March 2018 16: 19
    0
    Our plans today are to make a wheeled tank,
    said the head of the MIC on the channel "Star".

    Why - why, and a lot of plans, we have it forever! Beters, the tanks are different there. Kaleidoscope! With the implementation, it’s a bit mooser ..
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 March 2018 21: 55
      +1
      Quote: Jovanni
      With the implementation, it’s a bit mooser ..

      With the implementation of the good, with the money is bad.
  47. Radikal
    Radikal 4 March 2018 17: 06
    +1
    Quote: Dikson
    A young and energetic general director of an enterprise manufacturing armored vehicles in a story about a wheeled tank: "a larger gun will be used .." Gun. Larger Diameter. Sumptuously.

    yes wassat
  48. Vadim851
    Vadim851 4 March 2018 17: 11
    0
    The idea is interesting, but how to deal with the rollback when the caliber is 125mm and on wheels? Or shoot only in the longitudinal axis + -15 degrees like some self-propelled guns. Here is 100mm more realistic, but again. There is a BMP-3 with this gun. Instead, focus on a machine with a 57mm automatic gun.
    1. Alf
      Alf 4 March 2018 22: 02
      0
      Quote: Vadim851
      Here is 100mm more realistic, but again. There is a BMP-3 with this gun.

      No BMP with such a gun. On the BMP-3 is a low-ballistic gun.

      With ballistic MT-12 BMP no.
      1. Vadim851
        Vadim851 4 March 2018 22: 26
        0
        Meant in general the very fact of the presence of large-caliber guns. But is a full-fledged gun needed if guided missiles with a cumulative warhead are developed for 100 mm, and ballistics are not so important here to defeat manpower and light equipment.
        1. Alf
          Alf 4 March 2018 22: 53
          0
          Quote: Vadim851
          Meant in general the very fact of the presence of large-caliber guns.

          Which is cheaper-ur or shell?
          A high ballistic gun is a high initial speed, and the higher the speed, the higher the accuracy and accuracy., Especially since the MT-12 with such an initial speed shoots direct fire, and the 2A70 is mounted.
          In the ZUOF17 shot, the mass of explosives is 1,65 kg.
          In the ZUOF3 shot from MT-12, the mass of VV-2,23 kg.
          There is a difference ?
          1. Vadim851
            Vadim851 5 March 2018 06: 20
            0
            There is a difference, SDs are more expensive, but fewer are needed, BC consumption for the tank is critical, you need to have SDs and shells. Here is to install the "Rapier" on a wheeled tank, while ensuring horizontal aiming without restrictions is extremely difficult. 2A70 to defeat light targets at reasonable combat distances is quite enough.
            Still, the 57 mm high-grade gun for such a machine is what you need, here it is, the rate of fire and a larger BC
            1. Alf
              Alf 5 March 2018 21: 34
              0
              Quote: Vadim851
              There is a difference, SDs are more expensive, but fewer are needed, BC consumption for the tank is critical, you need to have SDs and shells. Here is to install the "Rapier" on a wheeled tank, while ensuring horizontal aiming without restrictions is extremely difficult. 2A70 to defeat light targets at reasonable combat distances is quite enough.
              Still, the 57 mm high-grade gun for such a machine is what you need, here it is, the rate of fire and a larger BC

              I agree with the majority. But make this clear.
              Quote: Vadim851
              Here is to install the "Rapier" on a wheeled tank, while ensuring horizontal aiming without restrictions is extremely difficult
              1. Vadim851
                Vadim851 11 March 2018 14: 40
                0
                This gun has quite a large recoil force, high muzzle energy, with turret angles of about 90 degrees to shoot, the tank should be low and the wheelbase wider so that it can fire without restrictions
  49. RUSS
    RUSS 4 March 2018 17: 25
    0
    Ours not so long ago bought a Centauro wheeled tank from Italians for testing and analysis for their own needs, but as a result they abandoned this idea, and now it means returning to this topic.
  50. sgapich
    sgapich 4 March 2018 18: 13
    0
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