Russia and China signed an agreement on the exploration of the moon and deep space

Roskosmos and the Chinese National Space Administration (KNKA) signed an agreement of intent on cooperation in the field of research of the Moon and deep space, as well as on the creation of a data center for lunar projects at the Tokyo International Space Development Forum (ISEF), reports the state corporation website

The document assumes cooperation in the Russian project to launch the Luna Resource-1 orbital spacecraft in 2022 year and the Chinese landing mission to the region of the south pole of the Moon planned for 2023 year.

In addition, they agreed to create a joint data center for lunar projects and deep space, which, if necessary, will attract scientific and industrial companies from both countries.

This is not the first Russian-Chinese agreement on space. Last December, an agreement came into force on measures to protect technologies in connection with cooperation in space exploration and the creation of launch vehicles and ground-based space infrastructure.
In addition, in November, Roscosmos and KNKA signed a space cooperation program for the 2018-2022 years. It includes six sections: the study of the Moon and deep space, space science and related technologies; satellites and their use; element base and materials; cooperation on remote sensing data; space debris monitoring and practical study of relevant issues, RIA reports News

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[ul_vitalii]

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

[Svarog]

Quote: ul_vitalii

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

Trampoline?

[Thrall]

There was Soyuz Apollo, and there will be Soyuz Khon Gil Dong

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: Thrall

There was Soyuz Apollo, and there will be Soyuz Khon Gil Dong

Damn, it's hard to put this name on a cigarette pack

[Thrall]

Yes there are a couple of hieroglyphs in total

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: Thrall

Yes there are a couple of hieroglyphs in total

Logically, the answer is satisfied

[iliitchitch]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Damn, it's hard to put this name on a cigarette pack

Depends on the caliber of the cigarette, not always 7.62mm smoke.

[Partyzan]

Quote: iliitch

Depends on the caliber of the cigarette, not always 7.62mm smoke.

I prefer 12,7

[Seaman77]

Quote: Thrall

There was Soyuz Apollo, and there will be Soyuz Khon Gil Dong

Hong Gil Dong is a Korean ...

[Partyzan]

Quote: Seaman77

Hong Gil Dong is a Korean ...

enroll as a full-time translator of the VO site

[standan]

Hong Gil Dong - Korean

[Orionvit]

Quote: Thrall

Hon Gil Don

Actually, the character you named was a popular character of Koreans. However, what difference does it fly all the same not high and not far.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Svarog

Trampoline?

you on this issue to WADA, do not worry, otherwise I will hand a medal

[sabakina]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: ul_vitalii

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

Trampoline?

Vladimir, what does the trampoline have to do with it? They will be shocked that their lunar rover will not be found on the moon! Although, thinking, they will defer themselves, saying that the lunar rover stole the lunar rover!

[a.sirin]

It is necessary to read you after finding the rover and everything else.

[Jerk]

The first to plant Ukrainians - purely for fun - and not rest? After them on the moon - no rover, no dust ...

[Alex-a832]

Quote: ul_vitalii

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

That's for sure! Mattress "saviors of the world" should not be allowed close to such technologies. Let them fly in dreams in Hollywood tales.

[SRC P-15]

Mattresses urgently need to fly to the moon and “tidy up” there to meet guests!

[Observer2014]

SRC P-15

Mattresses urgently need to fly to the moon and “tidy up” there to meet guests!

Here, here I wanted to say it. And you need to inherit. And somehow it can’t work out deftly. Well, or take money. To avoid places with their landings.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Mattresses urgently need to fly to the moon and “tidy up” there to meet guests!

Is there something to clean up there? Unless in the pavilions of Hollywood. But Ilon mask will save them, and the world at the same time, and the step will return again. Although why is he trying to do this - I do not understand. What nerd agrees to fly at a used stage?

[dauria]

Is there something to clean up there? Unless in the pavilions of Hollywood

I understand that a lot of people and Jesus will require a passport. So, most likely, it’s stupid to prove something. Normal - look. In 2009, NASA launched the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter into a lunar orbit to map the surface of our satellite. There are almost ALL devices there - ours, Chinese, American from 66th year to 2010.

https://fishki.net/1969646-foto-mest-posadok-zemn
yh-apparatov-na-lune.html

[iliitchitch]

Quote: dauria

There are almost ALL devices there - ours, Chinese, American from 66th year to 2010.

Yes, I’ve already seen it, I believe. But here to fly 6 times on tin cans here and there, excuse me, I, as Comrade Stanislavsky - I do not believe! Once, maybe two - it is likely, and without luck it could not do. Next pavilion shooting.
Let us first learn to work with photoshop in that us - Nevada gophers from the “pictures of rovers” to remove, for starters.
These are the runs and level all the achievements of NASA, which are, there is no arguing. Once fired, and white noise throughout the galaxy.

[Observer2014]

iliitchitch

Once fired, and white noise throughout the galaxy.

But here to fly 6 times on tin cans

[adma]

China is not a country that can be counted on in any way.

[Seaman77]

Quote: adma

China is not a country that can be counted on in any way.

Name the country that you can count on firmly in something.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Seaman77

Name the country that you can count on firmly in something.

Cuba

[karish]

Quote: iliitch

Quote: Seaman77

Name the country that you can count on firmly in something.

Cuba

one hundred% . Cuba can be counted on only one thing --- that it will take the money and not return

[Seaman77]

Quote: karish

one hundred% . you can count on Cuba only in one thing --- that she will take

Well, if we talk about the mulattos there, I agree with Ilyich. In Cuba, you can count solid.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: karish

one hundred% . Cuba can be counted on only one thing --- that it will take the money and not return

Are you having fun, huh? Cubans never let us down. And what, ate a lot at the same time? Yes, completely soldering, "give-give, and more" Fidel never said. Unlike some African monkeys and other comrade with hawalka raking.

[staviator]

Mongolia, since the days of the USSR, nothing has been heard at all. They will not fail, and if they fail anyway, no one will will know.

[Partyzan]

Quote: adma

China is not a country that can be counted on in any way.

tell me, will you think about your family - or about the starving children of Africa, only honestly

[siberalt]

Yeah. Maybe the Chinese will find oil there and the pipeline will stretch to themselves.

[Partyzan]

Quote: siberalt

Yeah. Maybe the Chinese will find oil there and the pipeline will stretch to themselves.

don't, let ours be used and we get paid

[iliitchitch]

Quote: siberalt

Yeah. Maybe the Chinese will find oil there and the pipeline will stretch to themselves.

Miller is already in the know, no doubt.

[Maz]

Right! The nuclear engine can be put in space on a spaceship, and not one! And open the station on the moon! Find the Lunokhod and the Monument to the Lunokhod to put. From the moon the whole Earth is in full view! Let's fly to Mars! On Jupiter! To Saturn! Beauty! The dream of all mankind!
I think it’s not just like that. Already built a shab. Waiting for surprises! Give the moon!

[sabakina]

Maz, until we stop killing ourselves, they will not let us out of the sandbox.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: sabakina

Maz, until we stop killing ourselves, they will not let us out of the sandbox.

Well, the moon is still within the sandbox. But for now, we should dig into the Byrranga mountains, but on the Putorana plateau. Oh, what can be found ... And then we explain to stupid striped deer where their place is.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Maz

Give the moon!

Maybe indeed, at least someone gets to the moon, at the same time and see how the Americans dodge.

[Freeman]

Quote: ul_vitalii

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

How sideways ???! You promised

But soon we will fly to the moon, -
And what do we fight with America:
Left - to us, right - to them.
And the rest is for the Chinese.
Song of Vladimir Vysotsky
On the Chinese problem (There are plenty of races on earth ...)
1965

[Svarog]

So many agreements on intentions have already been signed with China, but for some reason there is no implementation. They refused to buy a stake in Rosneft ..

[ul_vitalii]

Communication about anything will not hurt either.

[Svarog]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Communication about anything will not hurt either.

So yes, at least let them buy seeds from us .. gnaw and dream about joint projects on the bench .. but seriously, I would like to understand the reason .. Given what is happening in the world, China should see our friend and partner in our person .. and for this it’s necessary not only to be sick, but also to confirm the words with action .. In general, the position of China is not clear to me, and therefore I doubt all joint projects and not only ...

[ul_vitalii]

I totally agree.

[Partyzan]

Quote: Svarog

So yes, at least let them buy seeds from us .. gnaw and dream about joint projects on the bench

and how many stores have opened, and not only with seeds? didn’t you think, sanctions - yes, the agricultural industry is recovering, but why is it not so expensive? good product, our comrades buy very well

[ancestors from Don]

They will prove that there were no Americans on the moon!

[Ronald Reagan]

And the fact that the Earth is flat!

[let's say]

And the fact that the Earth is flat!

For flat humor, flat minus.

[Hurricane70]

Yes, what is it! Black week at the mattress and the world Zionists! Either Putin opened something, then our generals mumble something menacingly, then Gazprom runs into the Outskirts, and now it’s still ????? Trump will buy the whole motherwort in Russia ... Forward Russia !!!

[vadim dok]

Of course, black! 389 kg of cocaine lost! Byad!

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Hurricane70

Trump will buy the whole motherwort in Russia ... Forward Russia !!!

Fig him, not motherwort. Hawthorn from Irkutsk. There, the local cops are still full of it.

[Denis Obukhov]

.. which means they need to steal our technology

[Yuri Y.]

Partly yes. But they block us to some sort. China also already has something, and not only ours. In general, space is expensive. But you must. Even in politics. Compounding is easier.

[petrol cutter]

We’ll study the moon. Well, good. If you need to study, then we will study. The party said, it is necessary, the Komsomol answered, is!

[Partyzan]

Quote: Petrol cutter

The party said yes, the Komsomol answered yes!

What is your opinion on this?

[petrol cutter]

My opinion is, the country said it was necessary, I answered, if it is necessary, it means NECESSARY. That's how they managed to educate me somehow.

[Denis Obukhov]

In my opinion, China is going to completely develop Siberia and the Far East, and I don’t know what Russia is going to master with such power, except perhaps new offshore companies like Malta!
Isn’t it time to pay attention to the government that there is life around them, and sometimes difficult, is it not better to finally turn to face people, and not to mythical space open spaces?

[St Petrov]

Russia with such power, I don’t know, except for new offshore companies like Malta!

move to Ukraine, this is Russia with a different government and a bit of a mentality like yours. the soul requires. soul must.

Isn’t it time to pay attention to the government that there is life around them, and sometimes difficult, is it not better to finally turn to face people, and not to mythical space open spaces?

your fifth point is covered by a nuclear umbrella, hypersonic as it turned out, they give you warmth in the apartment and the site with vacancies.

You have two hands. Maybe even children. Maybe even grandchildren. You have 6 hands and a smart head. What is the problem?

[Seaman77]

Quote: s-t Petrov

move to Ukraine, this is Russia with a different power and a little such mentality

For information about the authorities and those close to you. Of course, this will not help you ...
According to folk wisdom: at least .... in the eyes, all of God's dew.

Russian businessman Oleg Deripaska bought citizenship of Cyprus

https://news.mail.ru/society/32736215/?frommail=1

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Seaman77

For information about the authorities and those close to you. Of course, this will not help you ...
According to folk wisdom: at least .... in the eyes, all of God's dew.
Russian businessman Oleg Deripaska bought citizenship of Cyprus

And what ? And now, what for? Well, I bought a Russian businessman Deripaska (, damn, among Ali Garhs there is at least one Russian? Ah, Potanin, yes) the citizenship of Cyprus. Who wants to work in Russia, having stolen in advance, he pays for the stolen. For example, Vekselberg returned Faberge’s egg home, because the choice was not rich - either Faberge, or both of his Faberges, Abramovich Sochi paid in part, again, and is naughty at football schools - only on the way. And if someone is against it, then you can hang yourself in your favorite scarf in London, having shot yourself out of three full-time pistols beforehand, well, that's how I am, figuratively.
Well, Cyprus will not save Deripaska. Maybe a person just likes Cyprus, what's wrong with that?

[zhekazs]

Quote: iliitch

Maybe a person just likes Cyprus, what's wrong with that?

Deripaska. Citizenship in Cyprus ... # Cyprus?
Well, Putin ... And the truth is that it’s easier to fight these offshore companies, it’s easier to incite oligarchs to buy them in the bud ... But what, is there no way out? You can’t influence the process - head it .. And somehow you didn’t hear much about “our property” for the last couple of years, apparently, you have been taking the Young Fighter Course. Here is such a heh heh (© Mikhan), an economic commando from the reserve of the Supreme.

[cats]

space debris monitoring
Is this about striped or something? ..

[Simon]

Quote: ul_vitalii

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

But why the hell do we need Americans! The Chinese are close by and agree with them more easily.

[cedar]

The seventh dozen has passed since the beginning of the cosmic era of mankind. We started it. Without us or with us, but earthlings will continue to master the solar system. So it’s better not to give up this great cause, despite the thorns of this endless path ...
"Through hardship to the stars".

[Simon]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

In my opinion, China is going to completely develop Siberia and the Far East, and I don’t know what Russia is going to master with such power, except perhaps new offshore companies like Malta!
Isn’t it time to pay attention to the government that there is life around them, and sometimes difficult, is it not better to finally turn to face people, and not to mythical space open spaces?

In my opinion, dear friend, you are not combing anything, nothing is said about Siberia, but about the exploration of the moon.

[Simon]

Quote: Petrol cutter

We’ll study the moon. Well, good. If you need to study, then we will study. The party said, it is necessary, the Komsomol answered, is!

It is a pity, however, that the party no longer needs anything but power and money, and the Komsomol is already completely gone!

[Simon]

Quote: SRC P-15

Mattresses urgently need to fly to the moon and “tidy up” there to meet guests!

Of course! Traces that are not there must be put on.

[san4es]

... the launch of the Luna Resource-1 orbiting spacecraft in 2022 and the Chinese mission of landing in the area of ​​the south pole of the Moon, scheduled for 2023.

... In December 2013, a well-laden "jade hare" transmitted images from the place of arrival. And they revived the still disputed debate about what color the moon is?

[Vadim237]

"What color is the moon." Gray is brown.

[dauria]

And they revived the still disputed debate about what color the moon is?

Are you looking for all the scam evidence? Yes, have come.
And about color - the spectrum of solar color on Earth and on the Moon is different. And the color of the same thing will be different. And even more so on the film and the CCD. The Americans didn’t take spectral zone shots, if they later cheated on stupidity “for effect” (ours, by the way, also shot something “later”, but not in real time) - this does not cancel the flight itself. However, what am I? All the same, do not prove to you. Like - fool yourself.

[viktor_ui]

dauria - “You are looking for all the evidence of a scam” - certain types can still not get to this ... rely on far-fetched facts based on the level of one’s horizons and knowledge level. The apotheosis of them I cannot believe - the earth is not round but flat because they are looking at the horizon line from an airplane and flying over the sun. People see the visible spectrum in different colors - what can we say about optical and digital PICTURE fixing systems. They have a special fetish in terms of pavilion pictures and videos ... but just UNDERSTAND that when a real expedition of despicable merikos flew and snooped in - AT THIS TIME ALL POSSIBLE ACTIONS were worked out preemptively and during the events themselves in these Pavilions to be torn apart or demolished IMPOSSIBLE event on the expedition. And when the PICTURE was quickly needed for the world community, they set up a storyboard, including from these TRAINING PAVILIONS.
In general, above us is a crystal dome, a hologram of the moon and lamps instead of stars that periodically fall off falling from the dome along the cumpole ... to some individuals of earthlings

[Simon]

Quote: Hurricane70

Yes, what is it! Black week at the mattress and the world Zionists! Either Putin opened something, then our generals mumble something menacingly, then Gazprom runs into the Outskirts, and now it’s still ????? Trump will buy the whole motherwort in Russia ... Forward Russia !!!

When?! Not that I didn’t have time ?! It is necessary to quickly ferment our motherwort to the Americans. Let me restore my psyche!

[ML-334]

Have you rolled out a sponge to the bowels or something? Cool down! We don’t have technologies yet, and besides, we are late — the bowels of the planets are being developed — but not by us, not by our World.

[Baloo]

Quote: ul_vitalii

Roscosmos and KNKA signed a cooperation program in the space field for 2018-2022. It includes six sections: the study of the moon and deep space, space science and related technologies; satellites and their use; elemental base and materials; collaboration on Earth remote sensing data; space debris monitoring and case study

ul_vitalii Today, 18:44 New
It is possible, but the Americans side

And it is right. There is nothing for the Amerzians to do on the moon; blacks will be resettled there and they will begin to impose their bullshit there. The moon is ours, and the Chinese are our partners.
It’s good that space debris is among the tasks. Perhaps someday they will finally create something like a space debris processing station. Perhaps it’s time to think about a station to protect the Earth from space objects such as asteroids, etc.

[Awaz]

Nevertheless, I do not understand what is the reason for attracting the Chinese or someone else? Is there any money? Duck, then you have to share with the Chinese what has been gained by past generations, you will have to give up technology. There’s nothing special to learn from the Chinese, everything is built on them with our own technologies.
Worse, they can transfer all production to China and permanently destroy Russian space technologies, which are already starting to fail.

[voyaka uh]

"what is the reason then attracting the Chinese or someone else? Is there money or not?" ////

Absolutely right. Exactly.

[zhekazs]

It may well turn out that they decided to throw some of the already outdated for us to the Chinese and in a few years, for this money, we will have something, but already a notch. Remember the Indian money in our military-industrial complex, and not only them, survived and there is a result. It’s only a pity that we don’t always have enough character to bring our development to a massive, in the global sense, “iron”. And in many ways, it turns out that others use our "mind".
But everything is changing (this week)

[Herculesic]

Interestingly, how many people fit in the Chinese suit in one spacesuit? Five of us will fly to the moon, and the Chinese, given the place in the pantry at least thirty people will be on board the spacecraft, with the declared seven?

[zhekazs]

Quote: Herkulesich

Five of us will fly to the moon, and the Chinese, taking into account the place in the pantry, at least thirty people will be on board the spacecraft, with seven declared?

Do you want our cosmonauts, yes, in spacesuits, manually, to make concrete on the Moon themselves? Do not worry, there will be no problems with migration control

[Vard]

We from Samara now have a lot of young people studying and working in China ... According to the stories, our generators of ideas and developers are there ... and the Chinese, this is an introduction ...

[Greenwood]

Quote: Vard

We from Samara now have a lot of youth studying and working in China ...

I understand that after graduation in Samara will not return back?

[bald]

Mutually beneficial cooperation. I can’t even think of a minus.

[Bronevick]

Well, with the "nuclear engine" then of course, even to the edge of the universe.

[Vadim237]

Here's how to create engines that can accelerate spacecraft from 1000 to 10000 kilometers per second - then we can talk about long-distance travel.

[Bronevick]

it was sarcasm actually.

[albert]

Well. for the solar system, a nuclear engine is quite useful, fly to Mars and Uranus.

[faterdom]

Good when clarity. It is clear who our president is in the 22nd year, now comrade Xi has pulled himself up - now it’s also clear who will be in China. You can agree on serious things.
But who knows the president of the USA of the 22nd year? And where will he carry it? And his legal capacity?

[Horseman without a head]

Still to send someone to the moon
It would be the most

[Nikolai Passerby]

China will receive technologies and design developments that they do not have. The Russian side will receive the money, some of it will be sawn and the remaining ones will buy Chinese goods ... That's all.

[K-50]

Rhetoric: Russia and China-Outer Space (ISEF) have signed an agreement of intent for cooperation in the exploration of the moon and deep space, as well as the creation of a data center for lunar projects.
USA - new "space militarization initiatives.
Well, and who asked a peace-loving country?

[Beltasir matyagu]

I'm against. The Chinese will know what they can and send.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: Headless Horseman

Still to send someone to the moon
It would be the most

mnu has a list of whom to send.

[armourer]

Correct solution

[platon4387]

Russia China and where are

[Baby sitter]

Merikos have already been everywhere, they are no longer interested. Now it’s the turn of the “periphery”. .. And the exclusive-pop-corn, let them look and enjoy ...... pop-corn.

[gig334]

That's right, together it’s easier to conquer space and resist the fourth Reich, which nests in the USA

[Azazelo]

Well, why feed this gremlin. China has never once shared its technology, but ours are constantly tying. For a long time we will still drag everyone into space ???

[Lesorub]

Russia and China signed an agreement on the exploration of the moon and deep space

The Chinese, as always, need technology, and our technology, as always, is ready to sell, and we will call it a joint program! )

[Klaus]

Maybe I don’t understand something. Maybe I do not understand anything. But:
- The Chinese have already approximately repeated the Soviet lunar program. 70s
- They ALREADY have a manned space program, a carrier and a ship comparable in terms of technical complexity with our
- They ALREADY have practical experience in modules, and experience in creating orbital stations, the level of the USSR in the late 70s - early 80s.
- I’m even afraid to compare the sizes of financing of space programs of our countries, but I suppose that the difference will be calculated by orders of magnitude!
- Finally, they have, albeit not of the highest quality, but OWN microelectronic element base, which we cannot fully boast of.
In connection with the foregoing, I have 2 questions:
1. What is the profit for the Chinese?
2 What is the point for us, since the wording "agreement of intent" is literally "well, you, this ... if what ..."

[Klaus]

Porakinin a little bit, he came to the conclusion that at this time the Chinese could only be interested in one thing: developments on the CTEC, and in general everything related to Energy. Otherwise, the economy of Roscosmos, I think they are not attractive.
Our "interest" in the Chinese is so primitive and unpretentious that you should not even mention it. And so everything is clear.

[zoolu350]

You forgot about rd-701, yard-0410, rd-0120 and mkk dawn (aka redesigned federation)

[Klaus]

Well, the product of KB Chemicals is far from new and far from innovative. As for the Federation, given our "high" pace of work in this direction, the Chinese and I think that we are at approximately the same level on this issue.

[zoolu350]

But does anyone have multi-fuel (RD-701) and TFNARD (RD-0410)? I have not heard.

[zhekazs]

includes six sections: the study of the moon and deep space, space science and related technologies; satellites and their use; elemental base and materials; collaboration on Earth remote sensing data; space debris monitoring and case study

This joint program is more like a course of thematic lectures on the topic: “Ten Ways to Sell Your Country’s Technologies and Do Not Get Burned”
The Chinese can only sell finished products and let them scratch their turnips for a decade with the question "How can this be copied", while domestic science is engaged in a step more advanced technologies. We would like to hope that we no longer have fools and traitors in such areas.

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: ul_vitalii

It is possible, but the Americans sideways.

Trampoline?

Not capable of more?

[Hurricane70]

Quote: voyaka uh

"what is the reason then attracting the Chinese or someone else? Is there money or not?" ////

Absolutely right. Exactly.

Is all the money from your similar specimens in a scam?

[Hurricane70]

Here is an article so an article! In one field, in addition to a few adequate, I gathered all the worthless ufologists, cosmosnazans, Sinologists, even a Jew clung to him !!!
Marvelous are your deeds, Lord!

[R-140]

Quote: Thrall

There was Soyuz Apollo, and there will be Soyuz Khon Gil Dong

I laughed a long time.

[stylet]

Quote: Thrall

"Union-Hong Gil Dong"

Hong Gil Dong - Korean

[zivXP]

The more Chinese relocate the better, and most importantly, away. It would be nice to send them to Alpha Centauri.

[Vadim237]

To do this, you will need a nuclear - pulse spacecraft, like Orion of the 60s, 20000 nuclear charges with a capacity of 2 to 400 kilotons - a speed of up to 24000 kilometers per second - in 30 years it will reach Alpha Centauri.

[Sergey D_2]

Man - there is a microbe on the body of Z, eat. Vile and greedy (Saint-Jean Persian)
Left to dirt the moon

[Labor]

An agreement is when you fly, take ours with you, we took yours too.

[M. Michelson]

Well, there is a hope that we will be stealing something from the Chinese, and the domestic space program will make a breakthrough.