The President of the Russian Federation congratulated Bulgaria on the 140 anniversary of the liberation from Ottoman rule

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Russian President Vladimir Putin sent a telegram to his Bulgarian counterpart on the occasion of the 140 anniversary of the liberation of Bulgaria from Ottoman rule. From the congratulatory telegram addressed to Rumen Radev to the entire Bulgarian people:

Please accept my sincere congratulations on the occasion of a significant date - the 140 anniversary of the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman yoke.
These days we remember the exploits of the Russian soldiers and Bulgarian militias, who fought shoulder to shoulder at Shipka and under Plevna. Thanks to their courage, resilience and dedication, the ancient Bulgarian statehood was restored.



I am sure that the general historical traditions, strong bonds of friendship and mutual assistance, cultural and spiritual closeness will continue to serve as a reliable basis for the development of multifaceted cooperation between our countries.

I sincerely wish you good health and success, and the fraternal people of Bulgaria - well-being and prosperity.


The liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman yoke ended simultaneously with the end of the Russian-Turkish war of the 1877-1878 years. Together with the Russian army, the Bulgarian militia opposed the Turkish troops. In the course of the war, Bulgarian volunteers joined the detachments under the command of Russian General Nikolai Stoletov.

The President of the Russian Federation congratulated Bulgaria on the 140 anniversary of the liberation from Ottoman rule

Russian troops on the Shipka Pass


Army Osman Pasha folded weapons in Pleven 10 December 1877 of the year. By February, 1878, the Russian troops under the command of Crown Prince Alexander entered Razgrad, Osman Bazar and Bazardzhik.

3 March 1878 was signed the San Stefano peace treaty between Russia and the Ottoman Empire. This day is the official date for the liberation of the Balkan peoples from Ottoman rule. In Bulgaria it is one of the national holidays - the holiday of the restoration of the Bulgarian statehood.


The Bulgarian borders after the parties signed the San Stefano peace treaty.
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  1. +24
    3 March 2018 13: 04
    You’d see what programs in recent years devoted to these events appear on state TV in Bulgaria. They say the Russians came in vain, the Ottoman Empire was not so bad, etc.
    1. +29
      3 March 2018 13: 09
      The President of the Russian Federation congratulated Bulgaria on the 140 anniversary of the liberation from Ottoman rule
      ... they were pulled out from under one, so they managed to lie under others ..... Until our leadership understands that there are no brothers in this world - there are only the interests of their people - there will be no sense.
      1. +17
        3 March 2018 13: 12
        The black .
        ..from they pulled them out from under one, so they managed to lie down under others.
        And so three times after the Turks. Now we will not pull them out anymore. They like it more. feel
        1. +3
          3 March 2018 13: 31
          Quote: Observer2014
          Now we will not pull them out

          I hope. I really want to believe in it.
          They like it more.
          So maybe for this they have insult to Russia laughing
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      2. +15
        3 March 2018 13: 13
        In this world, only Russians can defeat the enemy, and give the conquered territories to the Bulgarians.
        Which in turn will be called Russian aggressors. They will begin to fight along with Hitler against the Russians. To scream to the whole world that they (the Bulgarians) are independent, and the Russians prevent them from living and aggressively climb towards them with their stupid gas pipeline laughing
        Wonderful.
        Or maybe there are no Bulgarians? Maybe we won the Turks, and they returned there? ......... little by little ....
      3. +7
        3 March 2018 13: 19
        Brothers of easy virtue .. What can I say.
        Quote: Black
        The President of the Russian Federation congratulated Bulgaria on the 140 anniversary of the liberation from Ottoman rule
        ... they were pulled out from under one, so they managed to lie under others ..... Until our leadership understands that there are no brothers in this world - there are only the interests of their people - there will be no sense.
      4. +6
        3 March 2018 13: 54
        Quote: Black
        there are no brothers in this world - there are only the interests of their people - there will be no sense.

        all to the point good drinks
        1. 0
          3 March 2018 21: 27
          CONGRATULATIONS

          NOT FIRST INDEPENDENCE. but still, still ...
          I hope so. in the future, you can protect it yourself
      5. +1
        3 March 2018 15: 11
        Quote: Black
        Until our leadership understands that there are no brothers in this world, there are only the interests of their people

        Until we understand that we don’t have “our people”, but rather cheaply bought labor, there will be no sense.
      6. 0
        3 March 2018 20: 18
        And in the Second World War, they, along with the Fritz, ironed the south of the country. Nah .., these are not brothers, such as "wet in sartir ..."
        1. +3
          4 March 2018 08: 43
          You have confused the Bulgarians with the Hungarians and Romanians. That is, in fact, nonhumans were worse than the Nazis.
          Quote: DrLivsi
          And in the Second World War, they, along with the Fritz, ironed the south of the country. Nah .., these are not brothers, such as "wet in sartir ..."
      7. 0
        4 March 2018 09: 23
        Quote: Black
        ..... our leadership

        For some reason, our leadership always wants to negotiate with someone, cajole, reason, make friends, help, etc. ... All these "partners" and "brothers" understand only one FORCE !!!!
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      1. +17
        3 March 2018 13: 15
        You fought in World War I and World War II against Russia / USSR.
        Attention is the question of why you did this if there was no “occupation”, as you put it.
        1. +3
          3 March 2018 13: 23
          it was ours, the Balkan showdowns, did not fit on the eastern front, right?
          1. +3
            3 March 2018 13: 34
            Thracian warrior!
            Once the soldiers of the Khan Asparuh were driven by the Thracians into the swamps. And they occupied their lands.
            "Asparuh is the third son of the khan of Great Bulgaria Kubrat. After his death in 665, he inherited part of the Bulgarian horde, namely the Onogondur tribe, and was forced to wage war with the Khazars, who took advantage of the weakening of the Bulgarians as a result of the partition. Under their pressure, Asparuh migrated with his tribe for Danube.""
            1. +3
              3 March 2018 15: 33
              Quote: To be or not to be
              "Asparuh is the third son of the khan of Great Bulgaria Kubrat.

              Why are all these great sons of khans, barons, tsars and emperors of hundreds of thousands of years old in Russian called the week and the names of the Russians are Russian. And is their emphasis only “Bulgarian”?
              Could you tell?
              Or Bulgarians brothers of ancient ukrov? the black sea was digging together, and then the Turks came and, well, a local showdown, to arrange the Balkans. laughing And the Russians pinned down with guns and sabers, and they did not give life to either the Turks or the ancient Bulgarian people.
              And Saichas thought up the Russians with gas to push the Turks and Bulgarians. The Bulgarians sensed the catch in time and jumped off the pipe. Bulgarians, they are smarter than the Turks. laughing
              But all this is a local Balkan showdown. laughing
            2. 0
              4 March 2018 15: 39
              Quote: To be or not to be
              Thracian warrior!
              Once the soldiers of the Khan Asparuh were driven by the Thracians into the swamps. And they occupied their lands.
              "Asparuh is the third son of the khan of Great Bulgaria Kubrat. After his death in 665, he inherited part of the Bulgarian horde, namely the Onogondur tribe, and was forced to wage war with the Khazars, who took advantage of the weakening of the Bulgarians as a result of the partition. Under their pressure, Asparuh migrated with his tribe for Danube.""

              According to recent studies (which are based on old studies, but were ignored for political reasons), there are significant suggestions by scientists that the so-called "Thracians" (hundreds of tribes with different names) are the ancestors of the Asparuh Bulgarians, hence the Bulgarians of Kubrat. That is, the Bulgarians of Asparuh, the descendants of the Thracians, returned to the historical homeland of their ancestors, living for several centuries in the northern Black Sea region and the North Caucasus (see google map of Great Old Bulgaria Kubrat) due to the conquest of the Balkans by the Romans. Thus, the Bulgarians Asparuh reunited with the Bulgarians, several centuries living under the control of the Romans. Good health to scientists - archeology will prove who and what came from ... :)
          2. +6
            3 March 2018 13: 57
            Quote: Thracian Warrior
            it was ours, the Balkan showdown

            And Russia, which side of the Balkan showdowns - were there our territories there?
            1. +6
              3 March 2018 14: 33
              If not for Russia, then there would have been no Bulgaria as a nation and state.
              And now Bulgaria is a full member of NATO and the EU and is acting according to their plans, especially on the current southern flank ..
              February 1.22-23-2018, XNUMX, the prompt collection of the commander of the Joint Command of the Forces. The subject of the training camp: "The deployment and use of the Joint Forces in the context of the developing military-political crisis and its development into armed conflict"
              The main findings of these fees:
              “In the immediate vicinity of the eastern and southern flanks of NATO, there is a larger crane and long-term deterioration in security.
              - "In this delicate security environment, the Republic of Bulgaria should be able to protect its national sovereignty in national and coalition"

              On February 2.27 and 28, 2018, the annual gathering of Ground Forces commanders was held
              Topic "The deployment and use of military forces in the context of a developing military-political crisis and its development into armed conflict"
              Discussed ask:
              - intelligence and electronic warfare during the operational deployment of the SV,
              - increase the readiness of SV,
              - mobilization and staffing,
              - deployment cover
              - Creation of groupings, communication, information and logistics support during the deployment of SV, etc.

              February 3.27-28, 2018 on the basis of the 38th battalion of the Russian National Chechen Republic of Chechen Republic of Bashkir Republican Military Forces. Musachevo. A training and methodological gathering of officers of the Russian Central Chechen Republic of Chechnya was carried out.
              One of the questions worked out was: "the effect on the YaChBZ companies in an offensive battle in the composition of a mechanized brigade. (Representatives from 2 and 61 mbr and 4 ap beat)
              Experience in the field of vigorous, chemical, and biological defense of military personnel from the US Army Major Owen Dram - Operations Officer from the Infantry on the SASH and Senior Lieutenant Brian Rice - officer on the YaHBZ infantry on the SASh

              March 4.1 - March 2, 2018 at the Naval Naval Base of Varna on the topic “Deployment and use of the Naval Forces in the conditions of a developing military-political crisis and its development into armed conflict”
              At the operational training captain 2nd rank and. d. Atanas Panayotov made a report on military-political crises and armed conflicts on the Black Sea and the Danube River with the participation of the Navy in the period 1879 - 1989

              On May 5-17, 18, under the auspices of the head of the Military Academy “Georgi Stoikov Rakovski”, an annual scientific conference of the faculty of “National Security and Defense” will be held with international participation on the topic “Modern Security and Defense Challenges”
              The aim of the conference is to accumulate leadership, academic, expert, scientific and educational potential to study the key features of today's security problems and the role of NATO and the European Union in strengthening it.
              osche ???
              1. +3
                3 March 2018 14: 40
                Quote: To be or not to be
                osche ???

                You fought in World War I and World War II against Russia / USSR.
                Attention is the question of why you did this if there was no “occupation”, as you put it.

                it was ours, the Balkan showdowns, did not fit on the eastern front, right?
                I’m talking about the occupation, for example, in the WWII, what’s going on there now, it’s clear and understandable, and they are holding the flag, they want to be cannon fodder - that’s their right hi everyone makes his choice
            2. +2
              3 March 2018 15: 23
              Quote: Partyzan
              weren’t our territories there?

              Nevertheless, the eccentric grandeur Nikolai Alexandrovich considered part of the Balkans ... not allies, another part of the Balkans were not allies at all, and considered it necessary to get in, having lost both his power and his life, adding to his life the "children and household" along with loyal subjects .. .
              1. +4
                3 March 2018 15: 33
                Quote: 97110
                Nevertheless, its greatness Nikolai Alexandrovich counted

                you have once again confirmed my position - even if they choke you as soon as you help them, you will immediately find adventures at your fifth point, you need to love yourself - then others will at least respect you hi
            3. +2
              3 March 2018 23: 35
              So we have no territory in Syria either. And what? Need to apologize and leave? And imagine, we’ll no longer get into your Balkan showdown? Or do you think the sher khans lean and live happily ever after? Sorry for the normal Bulgarians, that's what!
        2. +11
          3 March 2018 13: 34
          Quote: Sith Lord
          You fought in World War I and World War II against Russia / USSR.

          Sergei drinks hi In fairness, we note that Hitler was afraid to send the Bulgarians to the Eastern Front, because he was afraid that they would not shoot at the Russians and would run across. Yes Only now you read such pearls
          Quote: Thracian warrior
          after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

          You understand that now they will shoot at us, because they are now occupied again, this time by NATO. soldier soldier
          1. +4
            3 March 2018 16: 28
            Quote: vovanpain
            You understand that now they will shoot at us, because they are now occupied again, this time by NATO.

            It’s just such a people. In vain we have laid so many lives of our ancestors for these "little brothers." They always have someone to blame. In a word CHEAP.
      2. +11
        3 March 2018 13: 16
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        after half a century of occupation 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

        Where is it seen that the occupied countries live better than the occupier?
        Snotty guys in the yard tell these tales
        1. +3
          3 March 2018 14: 05
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: Thracian Warrior
          after half a century of occupation 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?
          Where is it seen that the occupied countries live better than the occupier?
          Snotty guys in the yard tell these tales

          But now they are having fun, the Soviet freebie (occupation) is over.
          And they drove cleaned toilets in Europe, tomatoes and cucumbers, as well as their wine, nobody needs in the EU,
          So they would be perverted no matter what comfortable position to adopt under the new allies.
          MONEY FROM GAS TRANSIT IS NOT NEEDED, there are one and a half aircraft left and a rusty trough.
          OWN SKIES ALREADY CAN’T CONTROL BY YOURSELF,
          Mamalyga will soon begin to eat, raw, but don’t run to Russia anymore, you’re NATO wolves.
          And what can we expect from serfs, at the genetic level.
      3. +10
        3 March 2018 13: 16
        Please accept my sincere congratulations on the occasion of a significant date - the 140 anniversary of the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman yoke.

        I join the GDP ..! laughing
      4. 0
        3 March 2018 13: 16
        after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

        And what was it expressed ?!
      5. BAI
        +5
        3 March 2018 13: 17
        And why did they hit Hitler with Russia? After this, in general, everything needs to be rolled into the asphalt. Or in 1944 it was necessary to stand on the border and say: Oh bro, we forgive you all, fight and continue against us, and don’t forget Hitler to shelter? "
        1. +9
          3 March 2018 13: 40
          Bulgarian soldiers did not participate in battles with the Wehrmacht on the territory of the USSR.
          Hitler broke the Bulgarians, broke, and did not break up.
          So the Bulgarian should not make claims.

          Bulgaria officially entered the Second World War on the side of the Axis on December 13, 1941, declaring war on the United States and Great Britain, however, it was the only ally of Germany who did not break off diplomatic relations with the USSR and, as a result, did not fight against the USSR. Officially, the Soviet Union declared war on Bulgaria on September 5, 1944.

          In September 1944, after the surrender of the Kingdom of Romania, when the theater of operations moved to Bulgaria, a coup d'etat took place in the country on September 9, 1944. A number of leaders of the pro-German regime, including Prince Kirill (brother of the deceased tsar Boris III and regent of the young tsar Simeon II), former prime minister Bogdan Filov and others, were arrested (subsequently interned in the USSR, and sentenced to death by returning to Bulgaria) and the government of the Patriotic Front, headed by Kimon Georgiev, came to power. The Georgiev government declared war on Germany and the tsarist Bulgarian army took part in battles with German troops. After the war, the People's Republic of Bulgaria was proclaimed on the basis of the results of the 1946 referendum.

          Well, where did you see the terry ingratitude here?
          Didn’t they send the soldier? They didn’t kill ours?
          1. +6
            3 March 2018 14: 23
            Quote: demo
            Didn’t they send the soldier? They didn’t kill ours?

            Only here the Serbs, real brothers, began to fight the Hitlerites and had to postpone the attack on the USSR for a couple of months. And during the WAR how many divisions were pulled back, maybe the Germans didn’t have enough, near Stalingrad or on the Kursk Bulge.
            and supposedly brother, VINZO DRINKED AND WAITED WHERE THE SCALES ROCK.
            Yes, such (friends) for one place and per count.
            1. +4
              3 March 2018 14: 26
              Quote: urman
              Only here the Serbs, real brothers, began to fight with Hitler, had to postpone the attack on the USSR for a couple of months




              Serbia capitulated in a couple of days
              1. +7
                3 March 2018 14: 39
                She surrendered, but the partisan didn’t fight badly and, unlike you, didn’t sit under the women's skirts. And they didn’t make a small contribution to the Victory. It is not for you, the Romanians, to judge the Serbs.
          2. 0
            3 March 2018 19: 08
            The troops did not send ... Apparently, therefore, they now have the right to abuse the monuments to Russian and Soviet soldiers.
            1. +2
              3 March 2018 19: 11
              And the Bulgarian escort and security units in Yugoslavia and Greece were even more cruel than the Italian. Although the Germans were far away.
          3. BAI
            0
            3 March 2018 20: 59
            Bulgarian soldiers did not participate in battles with the Wehrmacht on the territory of the USSR.

            They were not in the territory of the USSR, it does not mean they did not fight against the USSR

            The assertion that during the Second World War there were no combat clashes between the Soviet and Bulgarian armed forces is also untrue. Formally not fighting against the USSR, the Bulgarian military were part of the convoys of German and Romanian transports in the Black Sea. Already in 1941, a series of clashes took place, in which the Bulgarian fleet and aircraft took part.

          4. 0
            3 March 2018 23: 37
            We are talking more about the current ungrateful ...... however, they did not fight for their gratitude.
          5. 0
            4 March 2018 05: 44
            Yes schaz did not fight, tell those who teach history from American textbooks.
      6. +4
        3 March 2018 13: 17
        I do not like Kirkorov ... He is sweet ... One Romanian word! Bulgarian???! Who cares??? (film brother 2)
        1. +3
          3 March 2018 14: 38
          and Kirkorov loves no one except money.
          1. +1
            3 March 2018 18: 01
            laughing laughing laughing But they will answer for Kirkorov to us.
            At first, twice with the Germans against us, everything is not enough for them.
            Now the kiru threw an inadequate.
      7. +4
        3 March 2018 13: 20
        Strongly affected? From the "occupation"? Now feel better?
        Quote: Thracian warrior
        after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?
        1. +1
          3 March 2018 13: 24
          yes, behind the west, along with you. all.
          1. +6
            3 March 2018 14: 00
            Quote: Thracian Warrior
            yes, behind the west, along with you

            lagging behind in what? in teleport and geyropeizatsii? so I'm only for such a lag
          2. +7
            3 March 2018 15: 37
            Quote: Thracian warrior
            yes, behind the west, along with you. all.

            Well, have you been with the West for 20 years, how are you? Are industry developing, GDP growing, population increasing?
            1. +1
              6 March 2018 00: 46
              Quotation: blooded man
              Quote: Thracian warrior
              yes, behind the west, along with you. all.

              Well, have you been with the West for 20 years, how are you? Are industry developing, GDP growing, population increasing?


              Industry is developing, yes. And agriculture too. GDP is growing. Part of the population decreases to the West. But the growth is positive - due to arriving from Ukraine and the Russians.
              1. +1
                7 March 2018 00: 43
                Quote: but still
                Industry is developing, yes. And agriculture too. GDP is growing.

                AND THEREFORE YOU ARE PEOPLE THROUGH STREETS IN THE STREETS AGAINST INCREASING TARIFFS) GDP is growing due to loans)
                Quote: but still
                But the growth is positive - due to arriving from Ukraine and the Russians.

                Haaa. Your population from 1991 of the year has slipped to the level of 1950 of the year, minus a million. Russian to you go to buy a summer residence, because it is cheap. These people do not live with you.
                1. 0
                  7 March 2018 10: 09
                  AND THEREFORE YOU ARE PEOPLE THROUGH STREETS IN THE STREETS AGAINST INCREASING TARIFFS) GDP is growing due to loans)

                  In every democratic country, one or other groups of people go out and test against something! Tariffs increased during social services, but ... then go test, so look what will happen to you!
                  As for loans: "Bulgaria's gross external debt (private and public) continues to decline. By the end of the 2017 year, it amounted to 32.564 billion euros, decreasing by 4.4% on an annualized basis, data from the Bulgarian National Bank (BNB) show."
                  https://rus.bg/ekonomika/ekonomika/22207-vneshnij
                  -dolg-bolgarii-prodolzhaet-sokrashchatsya
                  In 1990, debt exceeded GDP by 2-2,5 times! In 1990, Bulgaria declared a moratorium / bankruptcy / on payment of external debts.
                  Haaa. Your population from 1991 of the year has slipped to the level of 1950 of the year, minus a million. Russian to you go to buy a summer residence, because it is cheap. These people do not live with you.

                  The demographic crisis is characteristic of all “white countries”. Including for Russia. The proportion of white race veshde mixes. To different countries, this happens for different reasons! In Bulgaria, it all began, just in 50 during the social! Violent collectivization has led to a sharp decrease in the birth rate among the Bulgarian ethnic group! The people were born in villages, and it was precisely on them that the communists hit! At the same time, Gypsies and Turks went up and generated all the gain in the country! After 90, emigration also increased in demographic decline. The people sitting locked in social camps rushed around the world in search of a better life! In recent years, the opposite trend has been observed. Many Bulgarians living in foreign countries are returning or are about to return to their homeland.
                  Your primitive attempts to hurt the Blgar look pathetic. You will not show anything but the state of your psyche. request
          3. +3
            3 March 2018 15: 51
            Quote: Thracian Warrior
            yes, behind the west, along with you. all.

            What is Russia behind the West? You lagged behind when you moved to the west.
      8. +13
        3 March 2018 13: 23
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        after half a century of occupation

        The occupation? Are you at all adequate? Maybe you paid us indemnity after the war? Not. Maybe you collected taxes from the treasury of the Union? Not. Maybe you were driven into military conflicts in which the Union participated? So no. You did not even have our troops. One must be friends with one’s head, not fight. laughing
        1. +7
          3 March 2018 13: 44
          Quote: Monos
          Quote: Thracian Warrior
          after half a century of occupation

          The occupation? Are you at all adequate? Maybe you paid us indemnity after the war? Not. Maybe you collected taxes from the treasury of the Union? Not. Maybe you were driven into military conflicts in which the Union participated? So no. You did not even have our troops. One must be friends with one’s head, not fight. laughing

          And weapons (perhaps the best examples!) Received for free, and you can list indefinitely ...
          And now “Euro-occupation”, and immeasurably freedom, though with bare ass ...
          Victor- hi !
          1. +7
            3 March 2018 13: 49
            Greetings, Alexander hi
            Quote: Cutter
            and freedom immeasurably, though with bare ass ...

            Also here, they climb with their idiocy.
            1. +6
              3 March 2018 13: 56
              Also here, they climb with their idiocy.

              Here, more precisely, you will not say! Not only that, with the blood of Russian soldiers, they gained independence, but despite all the recent slap-blows, congratulations, oops! but it turns out the Russian occupiers ... Ugh!
              hi
            2. +3
              3 March 2018 14: 01
              Quote: Monos
              Also here, they climb with their idiocy.

              Well, listening to your opponent’s opinion is also useful, Victor hi
              1. +3
                3 March 2018 14: 07
                Hello, Volodya! hi
                Quote: Partyzan
                Well, listening to the opinion of the opponent is also useful

                ARGUMENTED! And not irresponsible nonsense!
                1. +4
                  3 March 2018 14: 26
                  Quote: Monos
                  ARGUMENTED! And not irresponsible nonsense!

                  but before it is also an indicator - the opponent’s state, though medical
          2. +3
            3 March 2018 14: 02
            Quote: Cutter
            And now “Euro-occupation”, and immeasurably freedom, though with bare ass ...

            Sanya hi they must go their own way, let them see how Europe will contain them
            1. +3
              3 March 2018 14: 09
              Quote: Partyzan
              Quote: Cutter
              And now “Euro-occupation”, and immeasurably freedom, though with bare ass ...

              Sanya hi they must go their own way, let them see how Europe will contain them

              Hi dear! hi Yes, let them pass ... only history has the tendency to repeat itself, no matter how it is necessary to release them again from some yoke ... But Europe has only one concern, there are “locomotives” of the European economy, the rest are half-empty wagons wound in the tail of the train , babbling and don’t tryndet!
              hi
              1. +3
                3 March 2018 14: 27
                Quote: Cutter
                no matter how they again had to be freed from some yoke ..

                not - I do not agree to this - myself, then myself
            2. 0
              3 March 2018 14: 55
              The command of the Bulgarian army admits that without allied forces they cannot ensure the integrity of the state in case of threat
              Watching an interview with the general
              On March 1, 2018, on the occasion of the holiday, the Strategic Planning Directorate of the Ministry of Defense, its head Brigadier General Krasimir Kanev, was interviewed.
              1 "As I think, Bulgaria itself will never be able to create the potential to protect its territorial integrity on a national scale. That is why the level of our political ambitions is that our country, in the form of an alliance, will fulfill its constitutional obligations to protect territorial integrity. And here we come to the defense planning process at NATO. Bulgaria is an active participant in it, like the other 28 countries of the bloc. ”

              2 “After the events in Ukraine at the Wales summit, at that time I was the Deputy Military Representative of Bulgaria in the NATO Military Committee, I was lucky to participate in decision-making processes on the adaptation of NATO.
              Then we saw that speaking about the threat in the most general sense against the Alliance, it still has well-organized reflex functions. We are talking about reflex.
              But the Alliance must be active.
              Proactivity began in 2015, 2016.
              Then the so-called response plans were developed. So NATO emerged, so to speak bluntly, from lethargy after a bloc confrontation. Because before Wells, the Alliance was fully focused on expeditionary operations outside the territory of the Member States.
              After the era of bloc confrontation, I defined it as a candy-flower period in relations between NATO and Russia, consultations, the Russia-NATO Council, ambassadors, and permanent military representatives. Then NATO did not plan a major operation in accordance with Article 5.
              After 2014, everything changed, since it was understood that the problem could be in our territories - hybrid or conventional. And currently, the Alliance has such preliminary planning that will allow in the short term to restrain the one who decided to take appropriate steps in relation to the country or countries of NATO. "
              1. +6
                3 March 2018 14: 59
                Quote: To be or not to be
                The command of the Bulgarian army admits that without allied forces they cannot ensure the integrity of the state in case of threat

                here from now on in more detail please - Russia threatens you? or Belarus? tell me who?
                1. +1
                  3 March 2018 15: 21
                  Quote: Partyzan

                  here from now on in more detail please - Russia threatens you? or Belarus? tell me who?

                  There is .. more in detail! As taught ...
                  "
                  On January 12, 2018, the Director of the Military Information Brigade Service, General Svetoslav Daskalov, on the occasion of congratulations on the 110th anniversary of the military intelligence of the Bulgarian Army noted. that the contribution of the service to the military intelligence structures and committees of NATO and the EU is highly appreciated by them "
                  In the same event, Deputy Minister of Defense Zapryanov: "Your assessments on current topics fully coincide with the assessments of our partners in NATO and the EU" "Chew yourself or yourself .. ?? ... on whom ... caved in ??
                  1. +2
                    3 March 2018 15: 38
                    Quote: To be or not to be
                    NATO and EU structures and committees

                    Well, go there, someone is holding you, or are they threatening you to go there? as far as I know, militarily you are not interested in Russia as a country with a low-fighting army, and you can’t imagine any big problems in the event of a conflict, and you can evaluate anything with your partners
      9. +14
        3 March 2018 13: 24
        Thracian warrior
        after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?
        Ha ha ha. Yes, at my place the Bulgarians were at 80 guests for several years .. They were friends of families. Why are you drizzling about the occupation? Who are you ? How Bulgaria lived under that Soviet "occupation" even now! Yes it is heaven and earth .. Yes, the Bulgarians themselves will smother you laughing Found here is a "frankian warrior"
      10. +3
        3 March 2018 13: 33
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

        Bulgaria, during WW2 was on the other side ... And please, tell me what was the "occupation" ???
        1. 0
          3 March 2018 13: 42
          caught on the scoop, not enough?
      11. +6
        3 March 2018 13: 38
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        what do you expect from us, flowers?

        I personally expect: in case the Bulgarians suddenly find themselves again (God forbid, of course), on the verge of destruction, they will not crawl to Russia with snotty memories of the brotherhood ...
        from the leadership of his country that it will forget about the imaginary fraternity with the Bulgarians, and will score a big and thick bolt for the whole Bulgarian people ...
      12. +5
        3 March 2018 13: 41
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        what do you expect from us, flowers?

        After everything that has already happened in our history - NOTHING, except for the next shot in the back.
      13. +1
        3 March 2018 13: 47
        stupid person you're date
      14. +2
        3 March 2018 14: 47
        an occupation? you, as I look, a pan on your head
      15. +5
        3 March 2018 15: 26
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

        Well, the Turks flowers waited. Tell me bluntly, you are rogues and we found a richer daddy. Shl-yush-ka you are Slavic, although you only have a language from Slavism.
        1. 0
          3 March 2018 23: 40
          and them him, that language?
      16. +1
        3 March 2018 17: 26
        In vain you were freed from the Turks.
      17. +2
        3 March 2018 20: 20
        Read the story. And in WWII, they, along with the Fritz, ironed the south of the USSR (Russia). Nah .., these are not brothers, such as "wet in sartir ..."
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    4. +9
      3 March 2018 13: 12
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      You’d see what programs in recent years devoted to these events appear on state TV in Bulgaria. They say the Russians came in vain, the Ottoman Empire was not so bad, etc.

      They have a chance to bring everything back. Erdogan will be glad and grateful. Well ... how grateful ... exactly to the extent that the Turks were usually grateful to the peoples they conquered.
      Good day, Sergey. hi
      1. +4
        3 March 2018 14: 04
        Quote: Monos
        They have a chance to bring everything back. Erdogan will be glad and grateful. Well ... how grateful ... exactly to the extent that the Turks were usually grateful to the peoples they conquered.

        there is still a variant - let’s wave to Constantinople, for not interfering laughing
        1. +4
          3 March 2018 14: 12
          Quote: Partyzan
          there is still a variant - let’s wave to Constantinople, for not interfering

          It is better to give Constantinople to the Greeks. What for us this hemorrhoids?
          1. +4
            3 March 2018 14: 43
            Quote: Monos
            It is better to give Constantinople to the Greeks. What for us this hemorrhoids?

            noooo - there must be a cross over Hagia Sophia, who is 3 Rome now?
            1. +3
              3 March 2018 14: 52
              Quote: Partyzan
              noooo - there must be a cross over Hagia Sophia, who is 3 Rome now?

              3-th Rome ended with the fall of the Empire. And let the Greeks put up the cross. The Byzantines have long-standing accounts with the Ottomans.
              1. +4
                3 March 2018 15: 01
                Quote: Monos
                3-th Rome ended with the fall of the Empire. And let the Greeks put up the cross. The Byzantines have long-standing accounts with the Ottomans.

                Victor - we took this cross near Byzantium, and drag it to us for the rest of our days - to pass it to no one request
                1. +2
                  3 March 2018 15: 28
                  Quote: Partyzan
                  we took this cross from Byzantium, and drag it to us for the rest of our days - to pass it to no one

                  Yes it is. And the fall of Constantinople recorded this fact. The House of God in Moscow is not given to us to turn history back! And the Lord showed the Russians more than once, not allowing Constantinople to return.
                  1. +2
                    3 March 2018 15: 40
                    Quote: Monos
                    not giving return to Constantinople.

                    we’ll only attach it, but we won’t transfer his house, we’re fine with him
                    1. +1
                      3 March 2018 15: 45
                      Quote: Partyzan
                      and we won’t move his house, it’s good for us

                      laughing good Amen!
    5. +2
      3 March 2018 13: 26
      90% of all Orthodox churches in Bulgaria were built during the Ottoman rule. Also in Russia, 99% of all mosques in the rule of Russia. The question is what happened after that in Bulgaria
      1. 0
        3 March 2018 21: 44
        and in France, not in the best, for the people, times, most temples were built.
        then they closed and broke
    6. +5
      3 March 2018 14: 05
      Bulgarians have always served the one who is strong. At one time they asked to join the USSR. But brainwashing began, as did the Ukraine. winked
      1. 0
        3 March 2018 14: 35
        Quote: siberalt
        Bulgarians have always served the one who is strong.

        If suddenly, ours on Shipka were defeated, don’t go to your grandmother
        together with the Turks, they would start shooting at us.
        I don’t know how, throw off this Thracian laughing troll
        a link to the Trufaldino movie from Bergamo with the lyrics,
        and I am always for those who win.
        This is their national anthem.
    7. +2
      3 March 2018 14: 24
      I also think that in vain the Russian soldier died for the "peppers". In all world conflicts, this ungrateful public was on the side against Russia.
      1. +3
        3 March 2018 15: 42
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        I also think that in vain the Russian soldier died for the "peppers". In all world conflicts, this ungrateful public was on the side against Russia.

        Well, let's say this, first of all, our soldier died over the straits. for geopolitics and interests of Russia. The liberation of the Slavs was an important factor, but secondary.
    8. 0
      3 March 2018 21: 12
      With what to congratulate? They are again in occupation now voluntary.
    9. +4
      3 March 2018 23: 11
      Quote: Sith Lord
      The Ottoman Empire was not so bad, etc.

      The Poles are saying the same thing now, they say the Germans were the same, and there was no need to release them. D.B.
  2. +9
    3 March 2018 13: 06
    “Brothers”, in turn, promised to diligently support the opponents of Russia, as they love us very much and are very grateful to us
    1. +1
      3 March 2018 13: 44
      00's we had no options. This is about NATO
      1. +6
        3 March 2018 14: 05
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        we had no options

        Sorry - but there are always options hi
        1. +1
          3 March 2018 14: 15
          fate of Yugoslavia?
          1. +7
            3 March 2018 14: 44
            Quote: Thracian Warrior
            fate of Yugoslavia?

            and you too could be divided? or are you running to who is stronger? is it national
      2. +5
        3 March 2018 16: 09
        Quote: Thracian Warrior
        00's we had no options. This is about NATO

        Tell the Finns about "no options."
      3. +3
        3 March 2018 19: 45
        And the option - to fight with the owners of the Fed does not suit you? But it’s not mean to hit the Serbs in the back, as in 1915, in 1941. and 1999
  3. +6
    3 March 2018 13: 07
    The President of the Russian Federation congratulated Bulgaria on the 140 anniversary of the liberation from Ottoman rule
    It was not interesting to know at their main eye. When did I read the letter? In general, the "little brothers" behaved and behave disgustingly. But nothing, but they are part of the free world now. Poverty is utter. There is a luxury cell phone. I’m not joking .. Ask who the Bulgarians have visited lately. The windows are off. Save.
    1. +3
      3 March 2018 13: 09
      There are no “fraternal” peoples. There are brothers abroad
    2. +9
      3 March 2018 13: 12
      They owe their statehood to the Russians, to those who remained there forever. But in general, black ingratitude ...
      1. +3
        3 March 2018 13: 49
        Lord them judge
  4. BAI
    +4
    3 March 2018 13: 13
    And why congratulate them, they still want to remember nothing.
    1. +2
      3 March 2018 13: 50
      this is called "Ivan does not remember kinship"
      and not only about them
  5. +4
    3 March 2018 13: 16
    Brothers ... How much Russian blood was spilled - and in both world wars Bulgaria was an adversary. True, they didn’t fight, unlike the Romanians ...
    And they bent under the EU with the South Stream (moreover, they bent the Americans. The EU there simply wound up the process).
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    1. +9
      3 March 2018 13: 25
      Quote: Thracian warrior
      what happened in the autumn of 1944: liberation from Nazi oppression or a new occupation by the Soviet regime?
      for me, the obvious answer was a new occupation

      I understand your feelings, but Bulgaria, becoming an ally of Nazi Germany, itself put itself in jeopardy. And this was not only the view of the USSR, but also of the Allies, who repeatedly attacked the ports and industrial centers of Bulgaria. And in the occupation of Yugoslavia and the fight against partisans, Bulgaria was also noted.
      1. 0
        3 March 2018 15: 46
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        I understand your feelings

        Do you agree that Bulgaria is now under US and NATO occupation?
    2. +2
      3 March 2018 13: 26
      Young man, please tell me, point by point, what exactly was the occupation ?! Russians killed you ?! Russian mocked at you ?! They drove to work in the USSR ?! What exactly?!
      1. 0
        3 March 2018 13: 49
        you buried us in a scoop, 15 years your parents were waiting for "Lada" :))
        1. +5
          3 March 2018 13: 59
          You had to bury in the Ryazan village! Or Smolensk.
        2. +5
          3 March 2018 14: 37
          In other words, the whole problem was only in the "Lada"?) My young friend, you absolutely did not care about mortgages, paid medicine, paid education, lack of work and much more ... Tell me, are your vegetables and fruits in Europe in great demand? ! Shipyards beat off orders ?! It's funny to read this from you))))
        3. 0
          3 March 2018 14: 54
          You are breaching. Tell me more about Verkhovyna's moped.
        4. +1
          3 March 2018 16: 14
          Quote: Thracian Warrior
          you buried us in a scoop, 15 years your parents were waiting for "Lada" :))

          Sorry, you yourself buried, no one drove you. They requested to be part of the USSR INDEPENDENTLY. Yugoslavia did not begin to join the Warsaw Pact bloc and there was nothing of it.
    3. +6
      3 March 2018 13: 27
      You are complete, you have an occupation now.
    4. 0
      3 March 2018 13: 49
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      for me, the obvious answer was a new occupation

      “Obviously” is not something that “can be seen”, but something that can be proved by first demand.
      The state of Bulgaria was part of the Nazi military bloc, which suffered a military and moral-political defeat. Following the results of World War II, the victorious states established a new world order in Europe. Bulgaria moved into the zone of influence of the USSR by a joint decision of the victorious states, let me remind you that this is the USSR, the USA and Great Britain (France, by and large, is also a collaborating state).
      As soon as the Yalta system was destroyed, Bulgaria moved into the zone of influence of Great Britain, although the United States took its place. It may not be considered occupation, but in fact it is.
    5. +2
      3 March 2018 14: 43
      Thracian warrior, perhaps you now live in this country, but you were not Bulgarian by birth. You are so competent in Russian punctuation rules that you betray yourself. I suppose a former resident of Ukraine or Moldova. Only of these are the majority of such theorists. This is an attempt to analyze the style of your writing from Siberia.
    6. +1
      3 March 2018 14: 50
      ----------- What happened in the autumn of 1944: liberation from Nazi oppression or new occupation by the Soviet regime?
      for me, the obvious answer was - a new occupation ------------------------ Remove the pan
    7. 0
      3 March 2018 15: 45
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      what happened in the autumn of 1944: liberation from Nazi oppression or a new occupation by the Soviet regime?

      If you continue logically, now you are under the occupation of the United States and NATO. Apparently, such an occupation suits you because there is more money)
    8. +2
      3 March 2018 16: 12
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      for me, the obvious answer was a new occupation

      Where in Bulgaria were the occupying forces? How much did Bulgaria pay indemnities to the invaders, how much did it pay taxes to the budget of the Union? Show me at least one sign by which the occupation can be recognized!
    9. +2
      3 March 2018 19: 50
      Which oppression? You were ALLY 3 Reich, that is, the Nazis. For this, only you had to burn from edge to edge, forcing reparations to pay until the end of time. But the Russian people are humane to their heads. I hope this time, your shoes in the air, when we gut your current owners will not be noticed and also rolled into asphalt.
    10. 0
      3 March 2018 21: 47
      everything is relative..
      only not 10-30 years A LIFE OF GENERATION -70-80 YEARS
      27 years have passed. ALREADY.
    11. 0
      3 March 2018 23: 44
      Yes, we are occupying you now! Say no? And the local population is not against such an occupation, only your politicians are bad. Where do you grow them?
  7. Maz
    +1
    3 March 2018 13: 31
    It’s a pity our then did not reach Istanbul
  8. +2
    3 March 2018 13: 36
    What a foolish thing to congratulate the country in two world wars that fought against Russia. Today, Bulgaria has given its land to NATO bases and is our enemy. I forgot the GDP, as they threw Gazprom with the gas pipeline, to impose sanctions against them, and not to share.
  9. +2
    3 March 2018 13: 36
    Quote: Thracian Warrior
    new occupation

    Yes, yes, occupation, and how, let's build factories and factories, and develop agriculture, parasites — urgently break down and destroy the remnants of the acts of the occupants — and demolish Alyosha so that someone wouldn’t have any more illusions about the little brothers, and tell him you should take
  10. +2
    3 March 2018 13: 43
    Well, I join our President. With the release of you, "bros" are traitors.
    1. 0
      3 March 2018 14: 47
      And I decided to wait for another anniversary - liberation from everything and joining the European Union without pants.
    2. +1
      5 March 2018 02: 14
      "Isn't it better to turn on yourself, godfather?" (Grandfather Krylov)
      The betrayal, which has no historical analogues, was committed in Moscow - it was from there that everything went. Since Gorbi is not condemned (and not even judged), his example is another science. Oh my god, what a bore ... urya! And small states have a small choice.
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      1. +4
        3 March 2018 14: 48
        Yes fluent it. Or a salary.
  12. +1
    3 March 2018 13: 57
    Just a protocol event. All GDP remembers and will remember, I hope!
  13. +2
    3 March 2018 14: 05
    Quote: Thracian Warrior
    you buried us in a scoop, 15 years your parents were waiting for "Lada" :))

    now you’ll be jumping for 40 years - some “horses” already get the stoves - they say that charcoal-grained coal is taken from a pension ship by ship.
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    1. +3
      3 March 2018 14: 46
      Quote: Thracian Warrior
      Hitler broke the Bulgarians, broke, and did not break up.

      plucked cock broke
    2. +5
      3 March 2018 14: 54
      but the Yugoslav partisans, paired with the Croatian fascists. killed
  15. +1
    3 March 2018 14: 10
    Noble trolling!
  16. 0
    3 March 2018 14: 14
    Why help if you haven’t asked for it?
  17. +3
    3 March 2018 14: 31
    Well done Putin !!! good He did as the president should and for one drop dead drop dead !!! (nothing personal).
  18. +2
    3 March 2018 14: 48
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

    ... in how. Well, not all Bulgaria thinks so. Although, freaks in any family are enough ...
  19. +3
    3 March 2018 14: 49
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    you buried us in a scoop, 15 years your parents were waiting for "Lada" :))

    ... you and donkey a lot ...
  20. +16
    3 March 2018 15: 16
    Congratulations to the Bulgarians
    1. +3
      3 March 2018 23: 46
      Thank you, you were the only one who congratulated us on the national holiday! I’ve read so much here that there’s enough for a month.
  21. +2
    3 March 2018 15: 57
    Or maybe you shouldn’t congratulate traitors? The GDP would still remind Bulgarian enemies with the centenary of the end of World War I and with the 1th anniversary of the alliance with Hitler ...
    1. +2
      4 March 2018 00: 02
      From me you have only one piece of advice - read the story, there the facts say something completely different.
  22. 0
    3 March 2018 16: 14
    Rather, he reminded of an unpaid debt.
  23. +6
    3 March 2018 16: 20
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?



    And was there a lot of Soviet occupiers on your territory? Or are you furious that Brezhnev did not take you to the USSR, despite repeated requests?
  24. +1
    3 March 2018 17: 21
    Yes, after liberation from the Turks, as a token of gratitude, the Bulgarians lay under the Germans, it seems, forever.
    1. 0
      5 March 2018 22: 54
      Bosch - Yes, after liberation from the Turks, as a token of gratitude, the Bulgarians lay under the Germans, it seems, forever.

      Bosch German company! Schutgard, Germany. bully
  25. +1
    3 March 2018 17: 24
    Yes, today something of the Bulgarian faction in the VO is poorly represented. Usually they three or four on these topics hum. Looks washed down in honor of the holiday. laughing
    1. +4
      3 March 2018 23: 51
      Already, you should not answer, at least three times, even four times. But when the fraction of your “brothers” Serbs in VO appears, who will write in Russian here, then you will praise them. But this will not happen soon. Continue to spit on my people in the same spirit, and in the near future you will be the only ones to pit here, although you, trolls, are everywhere.
      1. +1
        4 March 2018 17: 19
        Quote: Gado
        Already, you should not answer, at least three times, even four times. But when the fraction of your “brothers” Serbs in VO appears, who will write in Russian here, then you will praise them. But this will not happen soon. Continue to spit on my people in the same spirit, and in the near future you will be the only ones to pit here, although you, trolls, are everywhere.


        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! good
      2. +1
        5 March 2018 20: 10
        And I do not need to answer. I have my own opinion on this matter, and I certainly do not intend to discuss it with you. I know that there are many Serbs in the Donbass. I have not heard of the Bulgarians. And the fact that you have always chosen and will choose where is more satisfying, so God will judge you. It is better to have a worthy enemy than a miserable ally.
    2. 0
      5 March 2018 17: 38
      Yes, today something of the Bulgarian faction in the VO is poorly represented. Usually they three or four on these topics hum. Looks washed down in honor of the holiday

      Gado right!
      In the first, as you rightly noted, there is a Bulgarian faction in the VO! For some reason I do not see the "brothers" of the Serbs here!
      It is not worth answering all the dirt that a certain group of "forum users" regularly and how it pours under the carbon copy wherever the word Bulgaria is. In connection with the holiday The liberation of Bulgaria from Ottoman slaverythey have an aggravation am and we have joy good ! By the way, the on-duty Bulgarianophobes stood up under this article in their entire list! laughing Mobilization for the holiday! They gave them 2 buckets, instead of a random thing! lol
      And raise a toast and have a drink, in such a Great Den, and really need to! Health Brothers! drinks Bulgarians and Russians!
  26. +4
    3 March 2018 18: 34
    Quote: Thracian warrior
    after a half-century occupation of 1944-90 , what do you expect from us, flowers?

    There is your fellow countryman in VO, it’s so nice to talk, you are not a Thracian and far from a warrior! The impression that you visited ukromaydan, you carry such nonsense ...
    1. +3
      3 March 2018 23: 55
      You are right about the "Thracian warrior", he did not mature enough to talk about the "occupation" and other nonsense that he bears, but the Russians are also planning something similar - half of the people hanging out on the VO are frankly illiterate, and this says something.
      1. +1
        4 March 2018 08: 52
        half of those who hang out on VO are frankly illiterate, and this speaks of something.

        - This is affecting the United States for 25 years. You also have and will be worse
        1. +1
          4 March 2018 14: 05
          Yes, this is so, and as far as I know, this fact is also evident in Western countries. Maybe this is a world problem, so to speak, dumbfounded and stupid easier to manage? Only time will tell.
  27. +3
    3 March 2018 18: 39
    Quote: Caserogue
    Quote: Thracian Warrior
    new occupation

    Yes, yes, occupation, and how, let's build factories and factories, and develop agriculture, parasites — urgently break down and destroy the remnants of the acts of the occupants — and demolish Alyosha so that someone wouldn’t have any more illusions about the little brothers, and tell him you should take

    By the way, everything built by the Euro-hosts made them close and break! And he would dream of a peaceful cheap atom in Thracian gladiatorial dreams! Spartaki spineless ...
  28. 0
    3 March 2018 19: 17
    My ,, Second assault of Plevna ,,
  29. +8
    3 March 2018 19: 50
    So far, I have not read so many negative and disgusting words addressed to the Bulgarian people here. So what, it became easier for you, trolls? Keep up the good work, soon you will burst with anger.

    Happy Holidays to all Bulgarians and all Russians whose great-grandfathers died for the liberation of my Motherland! A deep bow to you!
    1. +4
      3 March 2018 21: 22
      I don’t know why they died? Again Bulgaria in the occupation.
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      1. +1
        3 March 2018 23: 49
        Your words you would shove back. it is unknown who you are at all!
        1. +1
          4 March 2018 14: 08
          Well, why not shove it? Who are you and what are you doing here?
          1. +1
            5 March 2018 13: 11
            Read the syllables - do-ho-hoo-hoo! Russian! Pensioner. Wife, daughter, mother, sister, aunt. One of his great-grandfathers with his family came to Russia from Bulgaria. Not Bulgarians, Greeks. What am I doing here? I am interested in the situation in the world and the opinion of smart people. Unfortunately, not all of them! So much negativity from the Bulgarians and about the Bulgarians, as here, has never been seen anywhere else! Both these and those are disgusting, although in the history of everything that has happened, I am one of those who do not forget evil, but who do not in vain remind. Losers and scoundrels open their mouths to Russia!
            1. 0
              5 March 2018 16: 10
              So much negativity from the Bulgarians and about the Bulgarians, as here, has never been seen anywhere else!

              There is hardly a topic about Bulgaria and the Bulgarians, where a certain group of "forum users" do not throw dirt from buckets against everything Bulgarian! True, some of them, the administration has already deleted. Thank! It is clear that such provocative behavior leads to a response from the Bulgarian forum users! Many Bulgarians know Russian and attend Russian-speaking forums. It does honor to them that they hold on much more restrained and culturally than their opponents! If you “run through” the page, you will immediately notice who starts with aggression and resentment! It began the first comments with falsification and insults to the Bulgarians!
              Such intensity in the forums, expressed in ostentatious, crude Bulgarianophobia, is connected with the fact that Bulgarians and Russians are closest in culture and history. It is beneficial to incite our peoples against one another, even at the everyday level ...!
              1. +1
                5 March 2018 17: 05
                I totally agree!
      2. +4
        3 March 2018 23: 57
        Stop it and write nonsense and let it be said, this is not a news story.
      3. 0
        4 March 2018 01: 58
        Our liberators

        All who come to you with weapons, then the Germans are now fascists laughing
    3. 0
      3 March 2018 21: 49
      + gave

      shortly I can’t write Lialalyal
    4. 0
      3 March 2018 23: 47
      Everyone knows about the Bulgarians who did not raise weapons against the Russians; they are talking about others and others like them.
      1. +2
        4 March 2018 09: 17
        As they did not raise him against the Germans, and even earlier - against the Turks. Fear is the main component of the existence of many states in Eastern Europe, populated by peoples with psychology: "my hut is from the edge, I know nothing." But this, alas, does not bring happiness to anyone.
      2. +3
        4 March 2018 14: 10
        Wow, a connoisseur of the Bulgarians appeared on VO, commendable.
    5. 0
      3 March 2018 23: 48
      yes there is no anger ... so a listing of facts .. and a memory of the past
    6. +1
      4 March 2018 17: 22
      [/ quote] Happy Holidays to all Bulgarians and all Russians whose great-grandfathers died for the liberation of my Motherland! A deep bow to you! [quote]

      Happy holiday!
  30. +2
    4 March 2018 02: 23
    Putin sent a telegram to his Bulgarian counterpart on congratulations on the 140th anniversary of the liberation of Bulgaria from Ottoman rule
    Actually, the Bulgarian president should write to Putin, congratulate and say thanks, for the freedom and independence of Bulgaria.
  31. +1
    4 March 2018 05: 02
    Why did they release me at all? Why are such brothers traitors. In the first and second world fought against us. Now in NATO. For me, the adversary (Germans, Turks, Angles, etc.) is more worthy of respect than vile traitors.
  32. 0
    4 March 2018 09: 11
    I think we came late to free the Bulgarians. It was no longer necessary, as they say. There was no one to release ... At the same time, they lost the lives of our soldiers, officers, generals, scooped up money, but did not gain a foothold in the Balkans, the Black Sea did not "be their". Unless Turkey was stopped for the sake of the British in its expansion into the Middle East. But for this, the British comrades said thanks to us, chuckling and rubbing their hands on the dividends received. The result of the Russo-Turkish war was that in World War I the so-called Bulgaria fought on the Germans' side, against Russia. In World War II, the situation repeated. She repeats now - the Bulgarians stubbornly oppose Russia and the Russians. (Still, JV Stalin was wrong. The peoples remain, and not the "Hitlers."). This, alas, is proved by facts. Which we stated, congratulating what we want to see. And the reality is completely different.
    1. +4
      4 March 2018 14: 29
      The thesis that the Bulgarians fought in two world wars against the Russians has been stubbornly and for a long time been supervised here, in VO. Of course, the facts are different, but you, flawed, do not understand this, and you do not want to understand. It’s more convenient for you to do what you love — to cherish everyone and everyone who does not agree with you. Learn a better story. As someone wrote up, what am I doing here and who am I? I promise, if in the future I will leave comments, then only from three, four words, so that people like you will understand me. Congratulations on your poor mind and negativism. All the best to you, stay happy!
  33. +4
    4 March 2018 11: 52
    Thank you for congratulations on President Putin! We thank Patriarch Kiril for the Russian people, for the service of the moleben in conjunction with the Bulgarian Patriarch Neophytos in the Temple-monument “Christmas of Christ”, Shipka! From the grateful to the Orthodox of Bulgaria.
    1. +4
      4 March 2018 14: 17
      Translation: Thanks to President Putin for congratulations! Thanks to the Russian patriarch Cyril for the service he served together with the Bulgarian patriarch Neophyt in the temple-monument "Christmas of Christ" in Shipka! From grateful Orthodox Bulgarians.
      1. +4
        4 March 2018 15: 04
        By the way, the speech of His Holiness Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill
        [/ quote] The Russian Orthodox Church always remembered that it was the Bulgarian missionaries - disciples of the holy Equal-to-the-Apostles Cyril and Methodius - who enlightened our ancestors with the holy Orthodox faith in the XNUMXth century, introduced them to Slavic writing, and opened for them the treasury of Christian culture and patristic thought.

        Without Bulgarian Orthodoxy there would have been no Russian Orthodoxy, or, if it had been, then perhaps it would have been completely different, because through Bulgarian Orthodoxy the Russian people received the foundations of the Orthodox faith in their native Slavic language.

        Therefore, the tens of thousands of Russian soldiers who sacrificed their lives for the deliverance of Bulgaria from bitter and unfaithful slavery returned this great historical duty to the Bulgarian brothers, for all centuries witnessing of unquenchable brotherly love between our Churches. [Quote]


        corresponds with the words of Vladimir Putin about the "restoration of the ancient Bulgarian statehood", which, of course, we Bulgarians are very pleased to hear. Thank you for the fair words in relation to the Bulgarian people. Well, illiterate, not reading stories, trolls here on the site, we have not paid attention for a long time :)
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      5 March 2018 15: 25
      Thank you, congratulations!
  34. +4
    4 March 2018 15: 26
    The Russian Empire lost thousands of people for our freedom, We lost thousands of people in the Second World War against the German forces as part of the Third Ukrainian. We fulfilled the blood debt that we had to free from the Turks. The material costs that the Russian Empire made in the Russo-Turkish war we they returned gold in the form of Bulgarian lands. Today we don’t have a debt to the Russian Federation because the Russian Empire lost people and money. All of this we returned with blood, gold and land and people. Our grandfathers returned everything. It remained only moral the duty to the soldiers who fell on our fields from the Russian Empire is the Russians, Ukrainians, Finis, Romanians. This duty is expressed in military honors and Christian commemoration of the fallen. All this we have been doing for 140 years.
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        4 March 2018 22: 43
        You would have learned to read and write, or else drooling and drool. Himself dohlyara, and do not teach others the mind. And stay in good health, I think you need it.
      2. +2
        5 March 2018 04: 16
        Sudoplatov, you are shell-shocked, apparently - you are utterly delirious ... You need to heal. And to the citizen - catch fish, breathe fresh air in nature ... It's good to wave a saber - think about your health, as Gado advised you.
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      4 March 2018 23: 52
      Quote: BGfen
      By today's den, we do not have a debt to the Russian Federation for the fact that the Russian Empire lost people and money.

      Russia never imposed any debts on Bulgaria and had no complaints. There is a debt of honor, but only those who have the honor can give it. The Bulgarians have never had honor.

      Quote: BGfen
      We lost thousands of people in the Second World War against the German forces as part of the Third Ukrainian. We carried out the blood debt that we had to free from the Turks.

      Miserable Bulgarians, with this blood you atoned for the service to Hitler and the Nazis. For sending punitive detachments to Yugoslavia and killing partisans and civilians. So you don’t need to drag Russia here, you should ask forgiveness from the Serbs and humanity on your knees. Consider the blood you atoned for.
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 04: 06
        Damaged you, conscript, whose blood is unclear look at the map in the article - see the west of Bulgaria where, huh? Where the Bulgarians lived for centuries. Squeals here, wretched, for Serbs hair and shirt rips! Good Tito spread yours with the partisans of Stalin ... Oh well ... And so the whole "cold war" of Yugoslavia from the USSR and the West roped ... And the partisans of the Titovites disturbed the Russian corps. Russian is NOT Soviet. But Russian. And remember: we should not ask forgiveness from anyone! Go crawl yourself - ask for forgiveness and fight with your forehead against the ground that your government has allowed the Serbs of your beloved to bomb.
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          5 March 2018 13: 28
          Quote: but still
          look at the map in the article - you see the west of Bulgaria where, huh? Where the Bulgarians lived for centuries.

          What `s next ?
          Quote: but still
          Squeals here, wretched, for Serbs hair and shirt rips! Good Tito spread yours with the partisans of Stalin ... Oh, good ... And so the whole "cold war" of Yugoslavia from the USSR and the West roped ...

          Rambo room do not envy the Serbs, they are men and people of honor. Tito fought for his camp, and neither Stalin nor Roosevelt decree him. It was you who fell under the Nazis and not just laid down, but voluntarily entered into an alliance and fought on the side of Hitler. If you would have at least a drop of honor you could act like Denmark for example.
          Quote: but still
          But the partisans of Titov’s Russian corps disturbed. Russian is NOT Soviet. But Russian.

          What is the Russian corps? That's right, it was the Nazi accomplices who were then caught and hung, they had nothing to do with Russia. And what about the Bulgarian corps that fought against the partisans? That's right, this is the Bulgarian army that was an ally of the Nazis.
          Quote: but still
          And remember: we should not ask forgiveness from anyone!

          So you have no honor, what forgiveness is there. A couple of decades will pass and you will demolish all the monuments to Soviet soldiers, and a couple of decades later the monuments of the Russian Empire.
          Quote: but still
          Go crawl yourself - ask for forgiveness and fight with your forehead against the ground that your government has allowed the Serbs of your beloved to bomb.

          Russia had a clear position against these bombings, so there’s NO reason for me to apologize.
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            5 March 2018 17: 45
            [/ quote] conspirator Today, 13:28 ↑ New
            Quote: but still
            look at the map in the article - you see the west of Bulgaria where, huh? Where the Bulgarians lived for centuries.

            What `s next ?


            And the fact that the aforementioned lands, inhabited mainly by Bulgarians, after the WWII went to the neighbors, which explains the presence of the Bulgarian army in those areas. But how in 1939 the USSR was half-Poland, western Ukraine, Belarus, Chernivtsi region, Moldova, part of Finland, the Baltic countries were annexed to itself - Russian conscripts, brothers and sisters lived there ... It is possible. Really, the consort?

            Rambo room do not envy the Serbs, they are men and people of honor. Tito fought for his camp, and neither Stalin nor Roosevelt decree him. It was you who fell under the Nazis and not just laid down, but voluntarily entered into an alliance and fought on the side of Hitler. If you would have at least a drop of honor you could act like Denmark for example.


            To whom to envy? Wow! Men and people of honor try to prevent bloodshed among the civilian population, take care of subordinates - do not expose them once again to bullets. You confuse HONOR with PROSIGNALITY. Here is the Bulgarian Tsar Boris the Third - a man of honor - being under the monstrous pressure of both Germany and the USSR, he saved his people from a bloody massacre. Ah, we give Denmark here as an example! And why, at a time when the armies of Italy and Germany crushed your Serbs and Greeks, the USSR supplied its partner, Germany, with raw materials and food, and? Until June 1941 ... Fellows, explain to us, otherwise I have something with the concept of HONOR not like you ...

            So you have no honor, what forgiveness is there. A couple of decades will pass and you will demolish all the monuments to Soviet soldiers, and a couple of decades later the monuments of the Russian Empire. [quote]

            You are our Great Honorable one, are you ashamed of me here prophylactically with future forecasts? Do not worry! Monuments to Russian liberators have been standing for 140 years ... And we are setting up new ones ... We don’t have it, where you have something - you arrange revolutions and war, you blow up churches, shoot tsar’s children, demolish your people after your enemy’s captivity send camps. Better worry about your country.
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              7 March 2018 00: 58
              Quote: but still
              You are our Great Honorable one, are you ashamed of me here prophylactically with future forecasts? Do not worry! Monuments to Russian liberators have been standing for 140 years ... And we put new ones ...

              Dya and not worried. These monuments have already offered to demolish and surely demolish. They just stop monitoring them and when they begin to collapse they will demolish, a proven method.
              Quote: but still
              We do not like yours, where you have a little something - you are organizing revolutions and warfare, you are blowing up churches, you are shooting tsar’s children, demolishing monuments and sending your own people after enemy captivity to your camps. Better worry about your country.

              Well, we do not go under the Nazis is true. Death is better than shame. We do not fight against our own people, as you killed Russians in Macedonia in WWI.
              We build ourselves and blow up ourselves, protect ourselves and defend ourselves.
              Do not RAII talk about prisoners.
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                7 March 2018 10: 19
                These monuments have already offered to demolish and surely demolish. They’ll just stop following them and when they begin to collapse they will tear down,

                All these monuments built with Bulgarian money, Bulgarians. They are the property of the Bulgarian state. Most of them will have a national cultural heritage status and are protected by law.
                That's when we take them down, then worry. While such monuments are not threatened.
                Well, we do not go under the Nazis is true. Better death than shame. We don’t fight against yours as you killed Russian for Macedonia in WWII. We build ourselves and blow up ourselves, protect ourselves and defend ourselves.

                Do not go to bed but collaborated with the Nazis very actively! Moreover, almost 1,5 million Soviet citizens participated directly in the collaborationist formations with the Germans during WWII! This is more than all the troops that the allies of Germany put to her!
                In WWI, we killed everyone who came to our land to kill and subjugate us! It'll be this way forever! Conclusion - come to us in peace and you will be met as dear Guests! Arrive with a sword, from a sword and perish!
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            6 March 2018 00: 00
            Change the training manual, but the fact that you, that your “colleagues” are one and the same. Well, God be with you, he will be your judge.
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    4 March 2018 22: 52
    And the little brothers will sell us safely again. They have long been accustomed to this, selling their liberators.
  37. +3
    4 March 2018 23: 09
    THANKS! ETERNAL MEMORYѝ OF THE FALLING FOR FREEDOM!

    Unfortunately, most of the parts of our land remained in Turkey, among the blush and the Serbs, the land also remained, and a lot of people!

    Thank you!
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      5 March 2018 08: 49
      Turks will return soon, east and west will be ours. Russia hidden Turkic country
      1. +2
        6 March 2018 00: 05
        Are you raving? Nothing will be yours - neither west nor east. Do you know why? The gut is thin!
        Aw, Russians, they called you Turks here!
  38. 0
    5 March 2018 19: 13
    What happened to you bros? You think one thing, say the other.
    The other day, Rumen, Patriarch Cyril, dared to dare! Of course, the Patriarch forgave him.
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      5 March 2018 19: 51
      Yeah. Yes, it was a long time ago and not true :) Yes, here your ambassador rebuked him! Of course, the Patriarch also forgave him. These are the pies. Come on. How is the monument to our Great Kubrat in the Poltava region? Were you going to enlarge something, not in the know?
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      5 March 2018 23: 11
      Nothing happened to us. As with you. Our languages ​​are close, Slavic! The letters are the same, but everything fails to agree!
      Public statements that have occurred are an expression of the same old contradictions! Remember in 2017, Mr. GDP was tempted by something about Cyrillic, when he visited the then Serbian Macedonian president in Moscow ... Then the beautiful M. Zakharieva threw up a provocation about the rescue of Bulgarian Jews ... Ours were then outraged!
      Now Cyril was invited not only to the holiday! The BOC held talks with the Russian Orthodox Church on the status of the Macedonian Orthodox Church! The IPC wants to get out of the custody of the Serbian HRC. Recently, the MOC recognized the BOC as its obscene church! TWS does not agree! Do not want to miss the "Macedonians"! For the TWS is the ROC! For the recognition of autocephalous / independence / MOC, the consent of all Orthodox Churches is needed! The Russian Orthodox Church did not give solasia, and in Sofia Partirakhi did not reach agreement. For Bulgaria, Macedonia is like your Stalingrad! It is impossible to surrender the ego, it is impossible! There is a line for which we have nowhere to retreat! Radev answered Cyril with a hint: "You are acting unfairly! Not according to the Orthodox! Then we will congratulate everyone there separately who fought in your army! Russians, Finns, Poles, Lithuanians, Romanians, etc.!" Such is the situation.
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        6 March 2018 00: 31
        Ehe, countryman, you here laid out all the ins and outs for review ... Even the hints of our president have seen and interpreted ... :) Come on you. Who remembers the old - that eye is out! The GDP congratulated — yes — besides, with the “restoration of our ancient statehood,” so that he said earlier about the Cyrillic alphabet that he had come from Russia to the Macedonian land. Especially after the words of Patriarch Cyril about the missionary role of the Bulgarian disciples Cyril and Methodius in enlightening Orthodoxy and writing to our Cyrillic Russian ancestors. I don’t want to touch upon the sensitive topic of the MPC. But Zakhariev - this is ours, Bulgarian, Catherine. And the one that Maria is, so she is Zakharova, Russian :) And the rest, a beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is good!
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          6 March 2018 09: 44
          Yes, this is one of the versions on which the forums. Whether she is true or not, I can’t judge. bully As for everything else, it is as you said. Maria Zakharova, of course ours! good Here it is! With Bulgarian national clothes! 100% Bulgarian definitely! Yes
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          7 March 2018 00: 35
          Quote: but still
          Ehe, countryman, you here laid out all the ins and outs for review ...

          Another .. which hit his head in childhood.
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            10 March 2018 20: 04
            I see that you were not allowed to hit. Maybe in youth they hit, or what?
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              10 March 2018 23: 49
              Quote: Gado
              I see that you were not allowed to hit. Maybe in youth they hit, or what?

              Yes, I don’t have everything in order, I’m not looking for reasons to justify betrayal and meanness as you Bulgarians do. Now you and the Ukrainians are brothers in betrayal.
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                11 March 2018 13: 18
                Oh well! I would not say. We have monuments, although there are rare species that paint them. And the Bulgarians are not going to fight to the center of Moscow, like your "brothers" Ukrainians. There are other differences, but there would be a desire, you yourself will find them. I do not condone my people, it was not we who betrayed you, but you, having destroyed the USSR with your own hands.
                I urge you not to look into the past, but to look into the future, to look for reasons for the rapprochement of two truly fraternal peoples - mine and yours. I think steps are already being taken in this direction, and when these stupid “sanctions” are stopped, we will live better, both we and you. With all my heart I wish you and us!
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                  11 March 2018 21: 57
                  Quote: Gado
                  Oh well! I would not say. We have monuments, although there are rare species that paint them. And the Bulgarians are not going to fight to the center of Moscow, like your "brothers" Ukrainians. There are other differences, but there would be a desire, you yourself will find them

                  I'm talking about mental betrayal. You are brothers with Ukrainians. Yes, YOU are smarter and understand that you will never reach Moscow, but they killed Russians in WWII with great pleasure. By the way, the Bulgarians in the Russian army were never taken prisoner, they were immediately put on the wall.
                  Quote: Gado
                  I urge you not to look into the past, but to look into the future, to look for reasons for the rapprochement of two truly fraternal peoples - mine and yours.

                  What common future do you have if you justify the past? You, like Ukrainians, are now the usual sixes of the West and the USA. And what kind of conversation can we have with the sixes? That's right, no. We will go to buy property from you and the girls to walk, we no longer have common interests.
                  1. +2
                    14 March 2018 22: 21
                    Well, live as you want. It’s more interesting for me to talk with you, your line is very straight.
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                    14 March 2018 22: 45
                    I'm talking about mental betrayal. You are in eom brothers with Ukrainians

                    We are brothers with all the normal Ukrainians, Russians, Belarusians and generally with all good people! And you can say anything.
                    What is our common future?

                    Specifically similar to you, none. But Bulgaria and Russia will have a common future and it is good!
                    We will go to buy property from you and the girls to walk, we no longer have common interests.

                    Question real estate pleases! good As for the "girls", just the opposite happens! There is my beautiful Irishka love , next to the computer stands and laughs at your stupid things. lol From time to time corrects my grammar / not in time /! I write with many mistakes in Russian, but for that I write quickly! bully
                    As for common interests, Russian companies, like all normal capitalists, are only interested in money. wink They do not care about your interests, believe me! fellow
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                      14 March 2018 23: 45
                      Quote: pytar
                      As for the "girls", just the opposite happens!

                      What does the opposite mean? wink Where you relax there and the girls walk, you are not Muslims. A Bulgarian lives in Russia, walks our girls and vice versa.
                      Quote: pytar
                      There is my beautiful Irishka, standing next to the computer and laughing at your stupidities.

                      The fact that a girl is good, and the words of women are just words.
                      Quote: pytar
                      As for common interests, Russian companies, like all normal capitalists, are only interested in money. They do not care about your interests, believe me!

                      Ally and partner always have special conditions. You cannot even be a partner, as people from overseas or in Brussels decide for you.
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                        15 March 2018 09: 50
                        Where you relax there and the girls walk ...

                        It is so in principle. Yes But since they talked about Bulgaria, I see much more Russian girls and women than men. And 90% of marriages with a foreigner among Bulgarians with Russian women. Which is very good! The Bulgarian-Russian connection is getting stronger! good
                        and women’s words are just words

                        No one has yet managed to understand women! And by the way, women's words are not just words, if they are backed up with a frying pan in her hands ... laughing
                        Ally and partner always have special conditions. You cannot even be a partner, as people from overseas or in Brussels decide for you.

                        The ally and partner have mutual obligations. Russia took its to Bulgaria with the collapse of the USSR. Accordingly, Bulgaria does not have an obligation of this kind to the Russian Federation. Bulgaria has its own interests and is getting old from protecting. This succeeds relatively successfully. For most ordinary Bulgarians, domestic politics takes precedence over foreign ones. And in the external priority is cooperation with the Balkan countries. They are our neighbors and get along better with our neighbors.
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          7 March 2018 10: 31
          I read and wonder. What do you personally care which church wants where and why others are against it? Are you a parishioner? Do you go to church every day? Without you, the pseudo-Christians will understand the church. In BULGARIA, only 17% go to the 1 church once a month, and the rest once a year is not a fact. Maybe you are personally interested financially?

          Yes! I am a parishioner, so this is definitely my personal business! Only the Antichrist can call pseudo-Christians to the people whom the FIRST Slavic adopted Orthodoxy and preserved the ego in the most terrible conditions of Ottoman slavery! How many go to church, how they pray, whether they believe ... it's definitely not your business! You will take care of your personal sins! A lot of dirt here you threw! As for my "personal financial interest", I regularly donate funds to the Orthodox Church. But it’s not your business either.
          You have already passed it. 50% of Macedonians consider themselves to be a separate people from the Bulgarians and this percentage will only grow.

          Just the process is going on to restore Bulgarian identity among the population of Macedonia. Before 20 years, 99% of Macedonians were considered non-Bulgarians. I myself am "Macedonian" - Bulgarian from Macedonia by origin. The process becomes irreversible, with the signing of the Treaty of Friendship and good neighborliness between BR and FYROM.
          Why, then, did he not mention Georgians, Ossetians, Tatars, Bashkirs? What do these nations not respect? What does the Finns have to do with it, if they have never served in the Russian army and could not liberate Bulgaria. In fact, you are hypocrites without honor and dignity, like your president.

          Question to the president! I also think that the Russians freed us! I do not agree with Radevu! no matter how much you started to be rude!
          Skins are Bulgarian.

          This is a direct violation of the rules of the site!
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            11 March 2018 00: 22
            Quote: pytar
            Yes! I am a parishioner, so this is definitely my personal business!

            What is coming? Who is your father? How many times do you attend church? When was the last time they confessed?
            Quote: pytar
            Only the Antichrist can call pseudo-Christians to the people whom the FIRST Slavic adopted Orthodoxy and preserved the ego in the most terrible conditions of Ottoman slavery!

            So you are Christians only on paper, even in the USSR we went to church more. Pseudo-Christians because I do not participate in the life of the church, they stick their nose in there and you don’t understand anything.

            Quote: pytar
            As for my "personal financial interest", I regularly donate funds to the Orthodox Church. But it’s not your business either.

            Tell me, do you understand why the Russian Orthodox Church does not agree with the transfer of the Macedonian diocese without the consent of the Serbs? How many years was the Macedonian diocese part of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church?
            What personal difference do you have for whom the Serbian or Bulgarian patriarch is praying during services in the Macedonian parishes? After that, do you lose faith in God?
            Quote: pytar
            Just the process is going on to restore Bulgarian identity among the population of Macedonia. Before 20 years, 99% of Macedonians were considered non-Bulgarians. I myself am "Macedonian" - Bulgarian from Macedonia by origin. The process becomes irreversible, with the signing of the Treaty of Friendship and good neighborliness between BR and FYROM.

            Everything happens exactly the opposite and passes according to the Montenegrin scenario. The Macedonian language is recognized as a separate language in the state. level and in the world, recognized the existence of a separate Macedonian people. The school studies the Macedonian language, documentation in the Macedonian language, etc. Among the ruling Macedonian elite there are no people who would recognize themselves as Bulgarians. The West will NEVER allow unification with Bulgaria even under confederation conditions. The younger generation in the majority already consider themselves Macedonians.
            Quote: pytar
            Question to the president! I also think that the Russians freed us! I do not agree with Radevu! no matter how much you started to be rude!

            You began to justify the president’s speech by saying that this is due to church disagreements. I do not like when they justify meanness.
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              11 March 2018 01: 47
              What is coming? Who is your father? How many times do you attend church? When was the last time they confessed?

              But all this is none of your business! No.
              Tell me, do you understand why the Russian Orthodox Church does not agree with the transfer of the Macedonian diocese without the consent of the Serbs?

              The MOCs decide for themselves what they want! The BOC officially asked the BOC to become her Mother Church and the BOC accepted!
              How many years was the Macedonian diocese part of the Bulgarian Orthodox Church?
              Do you know? Nope ...? No. From the adoption of Christianity in Bulgaria in 864 until the liquidation of the BOC from the Turks during the Ottoman invasion. The Bulgarian exarchy is being restored in 1870 to the entire territory of Macedonia, Dobrudja, Mysia, Thrace, Aegean Thrace. Until 1913, all Orthodox Christians in Bulgaria and Macedonia were one! They will be again! God will help!
              What personal difference do you have for whom the Serbian or Bulgarian patriarch is praying during services in the Macedonian parishes? After that, do you lose faith in God?

              I said that I myself have an affair with MK and there I have relatives. We are one people - Bulgarian! There is nothing for us to pray in Serbian churches! We have ours and God is with Us!
              Everything happens exactly the opposite and passes according to the Montenegrin scenario

              Černá hora exists as a state from the 14th to the present day, for the exclusion of the period under Ottoman shame. Macedonia appears as a republic in the SFRY from 1946. The scenario is clearly not the same.
              The Macedonian language is recognized as a separate language in the state. level and in the world, recognized the existence of a separate Macedonian people. At school they study .... etc.

              Yes. This is the same Bulgarian dialect spoken by all of western Bulgaria. In the BG it is recognized as one of the 3 Bulgarian language norms. Nothing wrong.
              Among the ruling Macedonian elite there are no people who would recognize themselves as Bulgarians. .

              You are mistaken! Many of them have Bulgarian passports. For example, former president Lyubcho Georgievsky. Currently about 200 thousand poppy. have bg passports and score increases. More and more young people study at Bulgarian universities. Thanks to the agreement with 2017, the information curtain between the BG and MK fell.
              You began to justify the president’s speech by saying that this is due to church disagreements. I do not like when they justify meanness.

              We do not justify the Dear President Radev, since there is nothing at all. request He did everything with dignity! Respect to them! hi
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                11 March 2018 21: 51
                Quote: pytar
                The MOCs decide for themselves what they want! The BOC officially asked the BOC to become her Mother Church and the BOC accepted!

                The MOC can only decide at home no more. Patriarch Kirill is not a PAPA and his word is not an order for other Orthodox churches. Today there are churches-dissenters of the UOC-KP, the Estonian HRC, etc. Nobody recognizes them from the churches, but so far the MOC has authority and respect. As soon as she helps one to the detriment of others, all these schismatics will be recognized and Orthodoxy will be divided and begin to fight with each other. Our enemies want this and act with the hands of people like you.
                Therefore, when the South Ossetian hierarchs asked the MPTs, they were refused. The Crimean diocese is still subordinate to the UOC-MP, and not the IOC. Therefore, you must among yourself amicably decide how the Macedonian diocese will move from the TWS to the BOC. After that, the MOC will agree with your decision and that’s it. But pseudo-Christians like you wanted to spit on Orthodoxy, your nationalistic dreams and movements are more important to you.
                Quote: pytar
                But all this is none of your business!

                Everything is clear with you bully
                Quote: pytar
                From the adoption of Christianity in Bulgaria in 864 until the liquidation of the BOC from the Turks during the Ottoman invasion.

                You do not know the history of your church. BOC autocephaly was recognized only in 1953. At this time, the Macedonian diocese was already part of the TWS. Go to the temple and learn the materiel.

                Quote: pytar
                I said that I myself have an affair with MK and there I have relatives. We are one people - Bulgarian! There is nothing for us to pray in Serbian churches! We have ours and God is with Us!

                Is TWS not Orthodox for you? You want to say that in the Macedonian churches services are in Serbian?
                That's right, you have a Bulgarian Nazi god and he theologized you for an alliance with Hitler.
                Quote: pytar
                Černá hora exists as a state from the 14th to the present day, for the exclusion of the period under Ottoman shame. Macedonia appears as a republic in the SFRY from 1946. The scenario is clearly not the same.

                Before the collapse of Yugoslavia, 95% of Montenegrins considered themselves Serbs, now only 45% consider themselves Serbs there. It is exactly the same in Macedonia.
                Quote: pytar
                Yes. This is the same Bulgarian dialect spoken by all of western Bulgaria. In the BG it is recognized as one of the 3 Bulgarian language norms. Nothing wrong.

                Do you understand Russian? MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE IS A SEPARATE LANGUAGE in Macedonia and for the whole world. All the guys went the process both in Montenegro and Ukraine. So, too, initially there were Serbian and Russian dialects, and now separate languages ​​which each year are increasingly artificially alienating from the mother language. You can consider the Macedonian dialect as much as you like, but officially it is Macedonian and the literary form differs from the Bulgarian one.
                Quote: pytar
                You are mistaken! Many of them have Bulgarian passports. For example, former president Lyubcho Georgievsky. Currently about 200 thousand poppy. have bg passports and score increases. More and more young people study at Bulgarian universities. Thanks to the agreement with 2017, the information curtain between the BG and MK fell.

                What am I wrong about? Give the name of at least one Macedonian politician in the Macedonian government who considers himself a Bulgarian and speaks out for entering Bulgaria.
                Passports are received only because you are a member of the EU and that’s it. As soon as Macedonia herself enters there, Bulgarian passports simply will not be needed.
                Quote: pytar
                We do not justify the Dear President Radev, since there is nothing at all. He did everything with dignity! Respect to them!

                You do not condone, but respect his speech? Only Bulgarians can justify meanness, because the whole history of independent Bulgaria consists of meanness to those who considered you brothers.
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                  12 March 2018 10: 42
                  What a pointless argument !!! I will remain on my opinion, you on your own! And what will the future show! The future is usually based on point vectors from the past! What are they like in Macedonia?
                  50 years ago, no one could have imagined that the SFRY would break up and Macedonia would acquire independently! But it happened!
                  20 years ago, no one could have imagined that Bulgaria and Macedonia would sign the Friendship Treaty and that the last “Berlin Wall” in Europe would fall! But it happened in 2017!
                  2 years ago, no one could have suggested that the BOC officially recognizes the BOC as its Mother! And that the Bulgarian Premier, together with the Macedonian, will put wreaths on the monuments of our common national Heroes!
                  The Bulgarian Spirit has one property! Even if one spark from him remained alive, it will flare up again! How Phoenix Rises! And in Macedonia there is more than one spark! There are many flames! The ego did not have time to fall for half a century, as it stands on the strong 13 centuries of history! What will happen ... see next!
                  As for our Dear President Radev, I will not comment. He said everything for himself.
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                    12 March 2018 16: 21
                    But I don’t argue with you, but enlighten you.

                    Stop writing nonsense, just answer who in the Macedonian elite considers himself to be Bulgaria and wants to unite with Bulgaria? What are your last names? Parties that are members of parliament?
                    Here's the answer and talk about sparks, contracts, etc.

                    Once again, do not stick your nose into things in which you understand nothing. Who recognizes whom as the mother of the church, who joins where, what diocese to which church does not belong to your mind. There are patriarchs, Orthodox Councils, and they themselves will solve all these issues. In Orthodoxy for Natsik type you have no place.



                    Judged by politicians on business, but not according to the words of reporters. He showed everything by his deeds.
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                      12 March 2018 17: 22
                      1. Don’t blame yourself. You don’t have a capacity to enlighten me. laughing
                      2. Don’t tell me to do something and I won’t tell you where to go.
                      3. Only God judges correctly. You are nobody.
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                        13 March 2018 00: 22
                        No or not, but someone should educate you. At this stage, it will be me.

                        God will judge in the next world, and on the earth man's actions are judged by other people.
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    15 March 2018 14: 59
    pytar,
    pytar,
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    The ally and partner have mutual obligations. Russia took its to Bulgaria with the collapse of the USSR. Accordingly, Bulgaria does not have an obligation of this kind to the Russian Federation. Bulgaria has its own interests and is getting old from protecting. This succeeds relatively successfully. For most ordinary Bulgarians, domestic politics takes precedence over foreign ones. And in the external priority is cooperation with the Balkan countries. They are our neighbors and get along better with our neighbors.

    Withdrawn what kind of obligations, for example, and why did we cease to be allies after the USSR? The Russian Federation began to pursue an anti-Bulgarian policy?
    For example, what is Bulgaria's success in protecting its interests?
    The Bulgarians have no foreign policy that they will say you and do it. You have forbidden UP you took under a peak, and it is profitable to you or not the tenth matter.

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