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The head of the Ministry of Education and Science: We need to know about the nuclear explosion, but the content of the life cycle must be changed

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Olga Vasilyeva, Minister of Education and Science, said it was necessary to make changes in the school life cycle. According to Olga Vasilyeva, who travels to the Penza region, there is a problem in the country when an increasing number of young people choose not to live in the provinces, but in major cities. The Minister of Education noted that it is necessary to introduce topics in the school life cycle in this connection that will tell young people and girls about new challenges.


Olga Vasilyeva at a meeting with teachers in the region:
When we prepare our children, who then choose big cities, we must still warn and talk about the challenges that they (there) are waiting for. There are new challenges, you need to talk about them. Yes, about a nuclear explosion, we certainly need to know, but the content of the life cycle must be changed.


It should be noted that the modern course of life safety is a combination of those on civil defense, the fundamentals of personal security (including road safety), society and the state, medical knowledge, military service and the military component of security. In which of these sections to introduce topics about the challenges awaiting young people in large cities (or creating a new section for provincial schools), the minister did not specify.

The head of the Ministry of Education and Science: We need to know about the nuclear explosion, but the content of the life cycle must be changed


The head of the Ministry of Education and Science also noted that serious attention should be paid to talented children. According to her, for such purposes such projects as Sirius and Kvantorium were created, the number of representative offices of which in the regions will grow.
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Press Service of the Ministry of Education and Science of Russia
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 2 March 2018 19: 38
    +35
    But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?
    1. Logall
      Logall 2 March 2018 19: 45
      +8
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      According to Olga Vasilyeva, who is making a trip to the Penza region, there is a problem in the country
      -ge! And the Singaporean education system ... And Vasilyeva herself!
      Give the Soviet ...!
      1. pjastolov
        pjastolov 2 March 2018 21: 16
        +15
        Hello to all
        Quote: Logall
        -ge! And the Singaporean education system ... And Vasilyeva herself!

        Quote: Logall
        And back to the Soviet?

        The exam was invented by the Americans to test mentally retarded children who had communication problems, and our "educators" want to make such
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 2 March 2018 21: 29
          +11
          Quote: pjastolov
          The exam was invented by the Americans to test mentally retarded children

          The point is no longer about the USE, it has already changed so much that it no longer looks like the American one, but not the Soviet one either. The problem is that the amount of data that needs to be crammed into children has grown .. As a result, not everyone is able to equally perceive all disciplines exactly. Therefore, they are divided into humanitarians and techies. The time of generalists will end with the last graduates of the Soviet school .., and it is on them that science and technology now rest .. That's the problem ..
          1. pjastolov
            pjastolov 2 March 2018 21: 34
            +8
            Quote: dvina71
            This is the trouble ..

            the trouble is that the teachers no longer want to bother - there is the Internet and search, and this has been going on for a long time - they pretend that they are paid, but they pretend to work, and look who goes to pedagogical universities - what is their average score? and who then teaches our grandchildren?
            1. Arzoo
              Arzoo 4 March 2018 14: 42
              0
              We need to change the Minister of Education. Where did they find this woman? Return the Soviet system.
          2. Falcond
            Falcond 2 March 2018 22: 31
            0
            This is not a problem, this is a global trend ... the field of scientific knowledge is expanding, but the capabilities of the human brain are not ... therefore everything is fine ...
            For example, take the poorest countries in Africa ... there are all the "generalists" ...
            In modern complex sciences, a professional lawyer cannot understand as masterly in cybernetics as for example .., because these areas have become very complex and require a huge intellectual resource for their study. Therefore, the number of specialties is growing, adjacent and intermediate ones appear, which over time are transformed into independent ones. For example, there was once physics and chemistry ..., and over time, physical chemistry appeared ... etc., etc. There is such an object - the History and philosophy of science ... so he very clearly describes these processes! So there is no problem with that!))

            PS Over time, even the languages ​​of communication are transformed from national into professional ones.
          3. tracer
            tracer 3 March 2018 00: 38
            +2
            That's absolutely the point. We were taught .... learns on its own and gain the necessary knowledge.
          4. Orionvit
            Orionvit 3 March 2018 00: 42
            +5
            Quote: dvina71
            The problem is that the amount of data that needs to be crammed into children has grown.

            Examples please. Don't confuse data with knowledge. Since the gymnasium of the late 19th century, the amount of knowledge necessary for the full development of the child has remained the same. Only the flow of informational garbage has increased, which some people mistake for knowledge.
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 3 March 2018 02: 28
              +3
              Since the time of the gymnasium at the end of the 19th century, the amount of knowledge required for the all-round development of a child has remained the same.
              Do you yourself believe in what you wrote? Nowadays you have to finish your studies after school all the time, but at school .... I WOULD HAVE A Pity THAT IN SCHOOL I DIDN'T USE ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN MORE !!!
              Only the stream of informational garbage has increased, which some mistake for knowledge.
              Gaining knowledge about something without anything? An interesting opinion, but I think it is VERY wrong. Only by working with information (data) can one gain knowledge about this information. At least in the Soviet Union they tried to explain this to me, it's a pity that I understood my teachers only when faced with life.
              There is nothing wrong with conducting tests if the tests are not written by idiots! Itself recently passed to obtain the right to conduct and guidance in conducting gas hazardous work. So the test questions were composed in such a way that without knowledge and understanding of the subject of the question, it was not possible to pass the test! Of the group of 25 people, only 6 people passed the test without an additional interview, and I am among them with the best result (45 correct answers from 49 questions, I thought about one too long, the time limit has ended, the second did not understand, the test is in Latvian, well, one I did not know the topic or did not remember, and complete idiocy, I confused the buttons on the remote control), according to the test results 7 people flew out of the exam and with me three more at the interview, I have suspicions that only 9 people passed the exam (test + interview), including me. hi
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 3 March 2018 04: 22
                0
                Quote: sharp-lad
                Do you yourself believe in what you wrote?

                I know very well what I wrote.
                Gaining knowledge about something without anything?
                You are confusing the level of general education with a narrow specialization, and these are completely different things.
                1. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 3 March 2018 16: 51
                  0
                  You are confusing the level of general education with a narrow specialization, and these are completely different things.
                  Narrow specialization is detailed knowledge about the subject of specialization.
                  Universal education is a simplified and generalized information about many subjects of narrow specializations plus the development of thinking as such.
                  For example: I know what each part of a nuclear charge consists of and what it is for, but I can only imagine the manufacturing and assembly technology in my imagination. hi
                  1. Orionvit
                    Orionvit 3 March 2018 17: 06
                    0
                    Quote: sharp-lad
                    development of thinking as such.

                    So what am I talking about? It is in the development of thinking that the task of school education consists, plus a set of general systematized knowledge necessary for the harmonious development of personality and a correct worldview. Individuals should leave the school, not specialists.
                    1. sharp-lad
                      sharp-lad 3 March 2018 17: 52
                      0
                      good Diversified personality with a holistic moral and psychological foundation. hi
        2. Falcond
          Falcond 2 March 2018 21: 57
          +3
          The exam was invented by the Americans

          And certainly not Ukrainians, who are the descendants of the Sumerians ??? Were you on these tests by chance ??? And the program "who wants to become a millionaire," you probably think the propaganda of the exam?
          Everything is bad with you - it's the Americans!
          In fact, the analogue of the exam was first introduced by the French! And there is nothing to make unfounded statements!
          1. pjastolov
            pjastolov 2 March 2018 22: 06
            +3
            Quote: FalconD
            And certainly not Ukrainians, who are the descendants of the Sumerians ???

            for sure, you can sleep well
            The USE was introduced in France after the former French colonies in Africa became independent states. A wave of African immigrants rushed to France. Their education was so primitive that they could clearly answer at the level of "yes", "no" ... Many of them could only count to ten. Everything that followed was designated by the word "a lot." We heard that there are millions, but how many it is, we did not know exactly.
            It was because of them that the exam system was simplified, the USE and the test survey system were introduced, in which the ability to think is replaced by guessing. A year later, demonstrations and unrest began in France ... The people protested, the thinking of young people from multipolar began to turn into bipolar. In short, they wanted the best, but it turned out according to Chernomyrdin!
            However, the French were great! They did not want to live according to the prophet of the future. Three years later, the French government was forced to abandon innovations, because not only the French people, but also the government itself, began to become dull.
            It would seem that one could put an end to the system of a unified exam-testing. But no! England all these years carefully and happily watched the dulling France - its eternal rival. It was in those years that America began to annoy England more and more. It was gaining such economic power that it did not want to remain a subsidiary of the London financial branch any longer. The energy of this arrogant young state had to be cut off immediately in the bud. It was then that the conclusions made by the British intelligence service came in handy, observing the "successful" USE results in France.
            It was in the depths of British intelligence that a plan to "castrate" American education was developed. They understood that they had to start zombifying the Americans with the youth. To do this, it is necessary to promote the tested learning system as more profitable. Disconnect the student from the interlocutor teacher. Produce average cramps instead of those who must learn to create.
      2. Falcond
        Falcond 2 March 2018 21: 51
        +2
        Give Soviet
        two bottles !!!
        1. pjastolov
          pjastolov 2 March 2018 22: 18
          +2
          why not Veuve Clicquot Ponsardin
          nostalgia woke up?
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 March 2018 19: 45
      +2
      OBZH was made specifically to give the opportunity to work for the retired military personnel. But they don't know a damn thing about pedagogy. What kind of education is there! belay
      Even a sausage dealer in the city market requires a medical card. And then the children, and not smoked bacon "at home" from what "house" knows!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 2 March 2018 19: 49
        +5
        Around the teacher. One. So many jobs have been created .. chiefs, inspectors, advisers and method developers .. There is no one to teach ..
        Quote: siberalt
        OBZH was made specifically to give the opportunity to work for the retired military personnel. But they don't know a damn thing about pedagogy. What kind of education is there! belay
        Even a sausage dealer in the city market requires a medical card. And then the children, and not smoked bacon "at home" from what "house" knows!
        1. SmokeR 47RU
          SmokeR 47RU 2 March 2018 20: 43
          +1
          I completely agree. Soon we will live as the saying goes - one with a bipod, seven with a spoon ...
      2. sogdy
        sogdy 2 March 2018 19: 49
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        OBZH was made specifically to give the opportunity to work for the retired military personnel.

        And not CWP?
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 2 March 2018 19: 54
          0
          Quote: sogdy
          And not CWP?

          NVP of course (which does not exist now), physical education instructors usually conduct life safety.
      3. Strategia
        Strategia 2 March 2018 19: 50
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        But they don't know a damn thing about pedagogy

        Stunned! That's what the dog rummaged in! And who, then, trains and educates soldiers and sergeants, prepares officers?
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 2 March 2018 19: 56
          +9
          The Minister of Education and Science Olga Vasilieva announced the need to amend the school life course.

          Women in education will ruin Russia! I would go, but they will immediately go to prison for insults and physical impact on the headmistress and the defeat of the OBR, etc. angry
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 2 March 2018 20: 02
            +3
            MIKHAN hi
            I would go, but they will immediately go to prison for insults and physical impact on the headmistress and the defeat of the CBR, etc.
            Vitaly. Only without sacrifices. Calm down. The time is coming with education, now something normal to do. By the way, Vitaly, how do you like the new military-industrial complex? And I remember you reacted very violently to the termination of the topic "Barguzin"
          2. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 2 March 2018 20: 02
            +3
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Women in education will ruin Russia!


            And in the USSR there were many men in education?
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 2 March 2018 20: 05
              +7
              B.T.V.
              And in the USSR there were many men in education?
              It is shameful that there were few men there in the USSR .. The teachers need to pay money. To live and not exist, the teacher could. Then men will go into the profession.
            2. Beby
              Beby 2 March 2018 22: 56
              +1
              I cannot say for sure, but judging by the books (memoirs / evocations that I happened to read) and eyewitness accounts, the percentage of male teachers in schools after World War II was significantly higher than in the late USSR. Some people who lived in those days told me that there was a noticeable decrease in the real salaries of teachers, which led to the outflow of men from schools. they needed to provide for their families.
            3. Orionvit
              Orionvit 3 March 2018 00: 55
              +1
              Quote: B.T.W.
              And in the USSR there were many men in education?

              The necessary subjects were taught by men. For example, at the school I was finishing, the men taught such subjects as labor, physical education, chemistry, respectively, the CWP (retired officer) and the school director was also a man. Even somehow there was one teacher of Russian literature.
            4. Vitaly Anisimov
              Vitaly Anisimov 3 March 2018 06: 56
              0
              Quote: B.T.W.
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Women in education will ruin Russia!


              And in the USSR there were many men in education?

              With me, the director of the school, the military instructor of the NVP, the physical education instructor, the trudovik, the historian, the head of the RUO .. The school was kept in "iron grip" hehe ..
          3. SmokeR 47RU
            SmokeR 47RU 2 March 2018 20: 48
            +4
            In my recent time, the teacher was kicked out for a bream (slap in the face) to one overage son ... And what can I say? ...
            He called the teacher of the past Afghan - gondon ...
          4. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 3 March 2018 02: 38
            0
            I had only three male teachers (a physical education instructor, a trudovik and a retired major, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, and a temporary history teacher, just during the Second World War) and I do not consider myself deprived and ruined. smile
        2. The black
          The black 2 March 2018 20: 00
          +4
          Lesson topic: How to survive on a scholarship ....
      4. alstr
        alstr 2 March 2018 20: 01
        +1
        Well, actually, they understand. First, you need to know how to build personnel. Secondly, in schools and even in military departments there is a special subject on this matter. So officers must have the basics of pedagogy.
        But how - this is how they learned. However, as ordinary teachers are different.
        1. SmokeR 47RU
          SmokeR 47RU 2 March 2018 20: 51
          0
          To build a variegated mountaineers and that's a problem! I'm not talking about our mother's sons.
          1. alstr
            alstr 3 March 2018 09: 51
            0
            Here the question is more about desire, not knowledge. The problem stretches back to the 90s, when the personnel were openly beaten shyly.
            Just like teachers came to school then, who didn't care about everything.

            Therefore, everything depends not only on knowledge, but also on the desire to work.
      5. Falcond
        Falcond 2 March 2018 22: 38
        0
        But modern teachers understand pedagogy, they know about life safety, but they don't understand anything about it ... because. for many of them, OBZH is how to survive in a hostel by eating a little pot and be able to save up for an iPhone)))
        I do not presume that the military are virtuoso teachers, but in terms of practice, they have something to tell, and with good examples from their own lives!
        I was taught like this once upon a time)
    3. Herculesic
      Herculesic 2 March 2018 19: 47
      +1
      On the "holy" coveted-you still can begin to crush the officials? wassat
    4. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 2 March 2018 20: 11
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      Of course it is necessary, but for this it is necessary to change all the pro-Western liberals in the government.
    5. dauria
      dauria 2 March 2018 20: 38
      +3
      Shouldn't the ENTIRE education system be changed?


      What for? It is enough for Minister Olga Vasiliev with the ministry to relocate from Moscow to the village of Sukhaya Khokhloma, Koverninsky District, Nizhny Novgorod Region. There are no "urban dangers". Just let the rubber boots not forget the sweatshirt.
    6. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 2 March 2018 20: 39
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      Well this is very difficult. The West will not understand us, and our youth will die of laughter, how can one master such a mountain of knowledge. One mathematician-physics ..., and then training hours! (as well as working hours in factories).
      I mean, absolutely everything needs to be changed: from the hospital to the cemetery.
      Mosaic is an interesting thing, but life is a whole thing.
      The Soviet education system set a goal - the creation of a person-creator, the modern system - a person-consumer. Do you see the difference?
      "From the beginning cognac, then cherry, then stone." From the beginning, the goal, then the method, and only then the tool. The education system is a tool.
      Imagine that there is a system of values ​​around: money, success, venality. And at school there are values: Karenina and Lobachevsky.
      Surround the young man. From the beginning a horse, then a cart.
      1. SmokeR 47RU
        SmokeR 47RU 2 March 2018 20: 52
        +1
        See the gist.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 2 March 2018 20: 58
          0
          Quote: SmokeR 47RU
          See the gist.

          Mercy for the rating.
    7. Alf
      Alf 2 March 2018 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      It is impossible! Categorically! Then you get a “thinking man”, but you need a “consuming man”.
      A thinking person will start asking unpleasant questions.
      1. free
        free 2 March 2018 22: 40
        +2
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: 210ox
        But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

        It is impossible! Categorically! Then you get a “thinking man”, but you need a “consuming man”.
        A thinking person will start asking unpleasant questions.

        And do unpleasant things!
    8. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 2 March 2018 21: 22
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      Under the conditions of wild capitalism to make a socialist education system ??
      However ..
      Yes, and the students are no longer the same - not from the Soviet test and the Soviet sourdough Children of the Z-generation and the alpha generation.
      To make the education and training system better than it was.
      The task is within our powers ... but ..
    9. the most important
      the most important 2 March 2018 21: 47
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system

      And what does the education system and the fact that people leave for Moscow? The entire system of life in Russia is turned inside out. All taxes from the territories go to the capital. Therefore, salaries there are 3-5 times higher. And the village and small towns, and some millionaires simply die from lack of money and lack of work. One solid Pikalevo throughout Russia ... Over 8 years, the number of jobs in the country decreased by 10 million people, while 200 million new high-tech jobs were promised. For 000 years, Russia's GDP grew by 25%, while global growth was 8%, while India and China almost doubled. People are fleeing to the capitals, because so far everything is "stable" only there. But is it necessary for the residents of the capital? Crowds of people, traffic jams from millions of cars. high cost of life ... But can you still put everything upside down? To give taxes to the subjects and the people will begin to return. A decrease in the number of cars in the capital, even by 6, will immediately become noticeable. In the meantime .... so far only the next promises of a good life, And from a stable ... the price of gasoline is steadily growing, regardless of anything.
    10. Falcond
      Falcond 2 March 2018 21: 50
      0
      What is your habits - to return everything to the USSR? Calm down!
      You read the Hegelian dialectic ... and then think about your desires again!
      We must take all the best from that time, soberly assess the realities and go to a new level!
      And you propose a path of degradation and regression!
      Modern children live in the future, they don't need a scoop!
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 3 March 2018 02: 42
        0
        To the level of the Union, we all need to develop for a long time! And the scoop is also useful, to clean up the dirt!
    11. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 2 March 2018 22: 02
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      This is possible ... only then you also need soviet society to return, with all the values ​​and customs .. and so yes, it would not be bad.
    12. Cutter
      Cutter 2 March 2018 23: 43
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      But is it necessary to change the entire education system? And return to the Soviet?

      That's it!!! good hi What was wrong with the Soviet education system? Are not thousands of specialists in Soviet education now working in West American-European countries ??? EXACTLY HEARED a German say: "They have an excellent education, they simply cannot submit it ..." Recently there was a super-educator from Finland in Belarus, so at the master class he said that knowledge at school in Suomi is given BASIC, knowledge is not needed the heights of Mount Kilimanjaro ... etc. The main thing is to know how to ASK GUGL ABOUT IT! belay
    13. NordUral
      NordUral 3 March 2018 19: 59
      0
      It is necessary, absolutely necessary! Only change to the whole system, starting with the social system! Otherwise, it will be an imitation of changes on the way to disintegration.
  2. Vlad Morozov
    Vlad Morozov 2 March 2018 19: 41
    +3
    We must explain to the youth that chips are grown in the village. And popcorn too. Rural life should prevail over a nesting city.
    1. Herculesic
      Herculesic 2 March 2018 19: 46
      +3
      Well, yes, candy grows on the trees along with money!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 2 March 2018 19: 51
      +1
      Do you think that you’re completely fools? Will they break to the roots of their parents? I doubt it ..
      Quote: Vlad Morozov
      We must explain to the youth that chips are grown in the village. And popcorn too. Rural life should prevail over a nesting city.
  3. Waroc
    Waroc 2 March 2018 19: 45
    +6
    And people go to big cities not for safety, but for the opportunity to live and work. If there will be more adequate living conditions in the villages and villages, then the course of life safety will probably not have to be changed.
    1. Retired2012
      Retired2012 2 March 2018 19: 53
      +3
      But you said the truth, the truth! The villages are becoming smaller and smaller, and the cities are swelling, like by leaps and bounds .....
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 2 March 2018 19: 53
    +2
    Attention must and should be given to all children in general! Each child is talented in his own way, but no one is in a hurry to reveal his talent, or to help children with this! Those who have dad mom's money bags are selected, and for a change they push real talented children to them side by side! And the rest of the children are brought up and trained on a leftover principle! This is not the USSR, this is terry capitalism.
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 March 2018 19: 56
    0
    Listened / watched the speech of Minister Vasilyeva .... Miracle! She acknowledged that it was important not only the ability to "google", but also KNOWLEDGE! ... Seeing the degree of insanity in education became dangerous even for the "top" ....
    The general course of the previous 15 years - "knowledge is nothing - the main thing is the process of obtaining it ..." ... Now we have nothing.
    ps I must admit that in the speech of Vasilyeva there were many true thoughts ... incl. about the value of training an engineer, etc.
  6. Chichikov
    Chichikov 2 March 2018 19: 56
    +1
    One must at least say something to the whole minister. Except how to speak, it seems that in the education system, they can do nothing more. Can the Public Council, at ..., really turn its eyes to the Soviet system of preschool and school education. And to nominate the ministers, not for "paper diplomas", theorists from science and SUVs-bureaucrats, but practitioners recognized as the best teachers and organizers of work with children!
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 2 March 2018 19: 57
    +8
    The head of the Ministry of Education and Science also noted that it is necessary to pay serious attention to talented children.

    every child is talented from birth, if there were no serious problems during pregnancy and childbirth in the mother or hereditary pathology. It all depends on preschool and school education.
    In the framework of life safety, it is important to teach the simplest ways of self and mutual assistance, to develop skills.
    As for the "Environment" it is something with something. What clever guys made up the program, no words.
    Our teachers (blessed memory of them) even the poor students from the courtyard were able to captivate with studies. They did not become excellent students, but if they learned, they received well-deserved fours and fives. And the current ones? My daughter studied, the teacher at the meeting: I deal only with those who want to study. What time! What about the current textbooks? The grandson is studying - they are given tasks from IQ tests, with which not every shtirlits will cope. Parents in the whole class frantically rummage through the Internet.
    The drawing task is to draw a hero with paints. Charming. But they learn to draw first with a line pencil, then more complex shapes, then light and shadow, then a sense of color and only after that paint. Or here's another: warm up the plasticine, stuff it into a syringe and then make a colored fish with plasticine. I do not understand who composes these programs, they generally think about what. Teacher at the meeting: Our task is to instill a love of learning, so that there is no aversion to classes. There are fewer and better students, more and more two-year-olds, people began to transfer children to other schools. Enough to focus on the West, you need to return to the Soviet system of education. Why do our kids need Halloween or Groundhog Day? It's boiling, I won't anymore, in general, something needs to be done with the education system, or we'll lose this generation too.
    1. Falcond
      Falcond 2 March 2018 22: 15
      +2
      By the way, in the West, in order to become a teacher of mathematics, you must first become a mathematician, and then receive additional pedagogical training ... the same with other disciplines! But for us it is the other way round - in pedagogical universities train managers in education ... but not specialists in their subject areas ... hence the statement about "working only with those ..." and "our task is to instill love ...". ..And this is natural .. because managers from education are not able to teach ... they themselves were taught how to "work with ..", "vaccinate" .. and anything else, but not to the subject !!!
      It is not possible to return to the union system, and it’s not worth it anymore .... but to take all the best from there is simply necessary!
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 3 March 2018 02: 55
        0
        That is, the entire system in full and supplement according to modern realities! hi
  8. Igor V
    Igor V 2 March 2018 21: 48
    +1
    "When we prepare our children, who then choose large cities, we must still warn and talk about the challenges that await them (there)"
    What are these challenges? "Call girls" going to cook? belay
  9. Falcond
    Falcond 2 March 2018 22: 03
    +1
    The Minister of Education noted that in this regard, topics that will tell young people and girls about new challenges should be introduced into the school curriculum for life safety.


    We need to tell children about the dirt that can be encountered in big cities: gays, daring "rhinos", "golden" youth and other evil spirits ....!
  10. Falcond
    Falcond 2 March 2018 22: 18
    0
    Minister of Education and Science Olga Vasilieva

    Suspiciously familiar surname of this lady
  11. Dikson
    Dikson 2 March 2018 22: 58
    +1
    Didn't she say anything about Housekeeping lessons? Well, those where the girls were taught to sew and cook soups? It is necessary to change the OBZH now .. And then all sorts of village people, you know, come to cities, and really can't understand anything .. Introduce lessons of tolerance in schools, along with the Law of God ..))) Yes, in Moscow and the region in schools of Muslims there are already so many that a mullah needs to go to every school and hall for prayers .. It's not about that, is it? At the CWP lessons, children were taught how to handle weapons, the basics of chemical protection, talked about first aid and actions in case of emergency .. Now, instead of a refined and amorphous OBZH, the minister proposes to teach rednecks etiquette and courtly manners, so that they, arriving in cities, do not create inconvenience for indigenous inhabitants of provincial capitals and did not irritate the elite?
    1. Retired2012
      Retired2012 3 March 2018 06: 57
      +2
      In vain you are so about the village ... the city people do not know where the milk flows from the cows, the oil is released from where ...
  12. Terenin
    Terenin 2 March 2018 23: 06
    +7
    Minister of Education Vasilyeva announced the need to amend the school course of life safety... I don’t understand, is she a representative of some public council or a Minister? request It is necessary to make changes, then make. Tired of this brothel in education.
  13. sgapich
    sgapich 2 March 2018 23: 46
    +1
    Hmm, I had a full-fledged NVP in my school, and a shooting gallery in the basement of the school with TOZ-8.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 3 March 2018 03: 05
      0
      and a shooting gallery in the basement of the school with TOZ-8.
      And our military instructor was constantly indignant that the field of delivery of just 660 rounds per shell class had to carry out two buckets, or even more! laughing What was surprised? Almost half of the school is the children of officers. 20 rounds from the respected one and another hundred from his pocket! laughing But almost everything was shot accurately, except for a couple of girls, but there were no options, “chicks”!
  14. Clone
    Clone 3 March 2018 00: 43
    +3
    And how did we live without this liberal OBZH? For me, this is the "Course of initial military training" ... moreover, in the status of a compulsory subject, with topics developed by the Ministry of Defense, and not by "educators." The war may not be on the verge, but every citizen must know which way to approach the assault rifle.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 3 March 2018 03: 08
      +2
      And how to open a trench, and how to survive the effects of WMD, and how to provide first aid for injuries, and how to burn a tank and stay alive, and ..... so many useful I. hi
  15. earloop
    earloop 3 March 2018 02: 33
    +2
    It is a pity that many people involved in the education of others wander in two “pines”, the first of which is “literacy,” and the second is education. ”Literacy, it is from the teacher, education is from God. For example, two triplets from famous people : Lady Sobchak, Navalny, Zyuganov - literate, but uneducated. But: Kurginyan, Zhirinovsky, Vl. Solovyov - both literate and educated. In Soviet times there were educated people among non-partisans and among party members.
  16. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 3 March 2018 11: 03
    +1
    What is OBZH?
  17. Bureaucrat
    Bureaucrat 3 March 2018 11: 53
    0
    Nuclear explosions, extremism, terrorism, while 9 of 10 do not know how to use a fire extinguisher. I'm not talking about the first medical care.
  18. rus-5819
    rus-5819 3 March 2018 11: 59
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    The Minister of Education and Science Olga Vasilieva announced the need to amend the school life course.

    Return at least the old, proven CWP over the years. Moreover, in the light of recent events
  19. rus-5819
    rus-5819 3 March 2018 12: 00
    +1
    Quote: Alex Justice
    What is OBZH?

    As my children said: "Oh God!"
  20. operator_75
    operator_75 3 March 2018 12: 17
    +1
    To chase these optimizers in the neck, only a return to the Soviet education system can save Russia. Because the USE system is slowly but surely making a herd out of the country. Five to ten more years, and who will teach the teachers ?!
  21. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 3 March 2018 16: 16
    0
    It will hardly be possible to return to the Soviet school - time has gone far ahead, and with them discoveries in science and technology! But to adopt the best, God himself commanded! And the time has come to modernize the school curriculum long ago. This applies not only to life safety, but to almost all subjects, even physical education. But I have always advocated that there should be as much teaching of practical skills as possible in the school with reference to real life. Once, when you were taught in electrical engineering lessons, it was useful for a lifetime! But many theories in physics, mathematics, Russian and other subjects have remained a theory. Although, decades later, I learned that even in tsarist Russia there were collections of practical experiences, experiments and tricks that help students master the theory, and at the same time instill these very skills. And in Russian there are a lot of interesting works exploring the deep meaning of letters, words, word constructions and the construction of sentences. And we all ran into computers, and then look for yourself. And they themselves are looking for what their age needs. In short, dumb theorists.
  22. fa811147
    fa811147 3 March 2018 23: 03
    0
    This Vasilyeva is very similar to the other * Vasilyeva * Are there any relatives from the Linnik clan?
  23. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 4 March 2018 23: 04
    0
    IT IS NECESSARY TO RETURN THE SOVIET EDUCATION SYSTEM. So that our children and grandchildren are diversified. And Fursenko needs to be put in a cage to show on the square as a traitor to the MOTHERLAND.