CHP of Ukraine massively switch to fuel oil

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The official site of the company Kyivenergo, as well as the sites of a number of other energy companies in Ukraine, publish statements about emergency measures to restore the volume of heat generation and partly electricity. To this end, as stated, "local diversification". Generating capacities are transferred from gas fuel to fuel oil. The large-scale use of fuel oil by Ukrainian heat and power generating enterprises began for the first time in a long time. It is stated that this is done with the aim of "saving gas".

From the message press service Kyivenergo:
It is planned to use about 65,7 thousand tons of fuel oil every day at two heat stations of Kiev, which provide 2% of capital consumers with heat. Thus, the daily gas consumption at CHPP-5 and CHPP-6 will be reduced from 7 million cubic meters. m to 4,3 million cubic meters. Gas savings will amount to 10,9 million cubic meters. m for four days.




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The gas saving mode and the partial conversion of CHP-5 and CHP-6 to fuel oil will be canceled after the decision of the Ministry of Energy and Coal Industry.


CHP of Ukraine massively switch to fuel oil


The situation unfolds against the background of statements by Gazprom about the termination of all without exception contracts with Naftogaz.

Petro Poroshenko on this background, called on the citizens of Ukraine to "screw" the gas.

Poroshenko:
By joining this initiative personally, I also urge all government agencies to reduce the indoor temperature as much as possible. I also ask citizens to screw the heating on only one degree for a few days or to avoid heat losses in the houses as much as possible.
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  1. +28
    2 March 2018 18: 15
    Something tells me, tryndets comes - the power system! Yes, and heating - too. negative jumped around!
    1. +37
      2 March 2018 18: 18
      Where did they get fuel oil?
      1. +12
        2 March 2018 18: 22
        Victor hi Well, probably on an Amerz ship disguised as “shitty black oil” they drove ““ from Novorossiysk. And I advise Poroshenko to cover it myself ... siphon. And what, on the site the word ““, by the way, is it simply forbidden to translate?
        Quote: Monos
        Where did they get fuel oil?
        1. +25
          2 March 2018 18: 36
          Interesting times are coming.
          1. +13
            2 March 2018 18: 48
            Quote: cniza
            Interesting times are coming.

            Finally .. Everyone was waiting, when for all the "good" Bandera they will give a kick .. And so it began .. so delicious. I look forward to continuing ... I would like to see how the DNI and LC recognize.
            1. +12
              2 March 2018 18: 59
              But the West is silent, not hysterical, or it does not reach us. Canceled the contract, that's cool!
              1. +4
                2 March 2018 19: 39
                Quote: Rusland
                But the West is silent, not hysterical, or it does not reach us. Canceled the contract, that's cool!

                So they have a snout .. not even in fluff, but in a ram .. The decision is that the court made a crooked decision .. and a kick, including in their backside, came laughing
                1. +1
                  2 March 2018 21: 23
                  It always seemed to me that the gas industry was fusing liquefied gas to the neighbors at half price, they were selling to the population at the European price, they divided the difference in half. Why suddenly all these jumps on both sides of the valve while the beneficiaries change their minds?
              2. +8
                2 March 2018 19: 41
                Annul - loudly said. It turns out that the Stockholm arbitration by its decision cancels a significant part of the contract. Accordingly, it is necessary to sign documents regulating the formation of prices, based on the decision of the judges. Moreover, Gazprom cannot terminate the contract unilaterally, only through a court. In the meantime, there will be a court decision - December 2019 will come. That's it.
                In addition, the Americans (with their LNG) and the Baltic states (with an unloaded gas terminal) will obviously be happy.
                1. +2
                  2 March 2018 22: 00
                  And until a court decision for financial reasons, suspend the execution of the contract ....
                2. +2
                  2 March 2018 23: 25
                  It turns out that the Stockholm arbitration by its decision cancels a significant part of the contract.


                  I don’t understand. But Gazprom itself chose this court. Therefore, it is obliged to comply with court decisions. And to challenge in the highest instance, if provided. Saying now that the court is “bad”, making court decisions cause the contract to break is ridiculous and stupid. It’s Gazprom’s right to break, twist the valve, to answer Gazprom anyway for this, and not Stockholm.
                  "I will complain about the king !!! Baby, after me"
                3. +1
                  3 March 2018 00: 19
                  Quote: shura sailors
                  . In addition, Gazprom cannot terminate the contract unilaterally, only through court. In the meantime, there will be a court decision - December 2019 will come. That's it.

                  Here is the answer ...
                  Gazprom refused to start supplying gas for the needs of Naftogaz Ukrainy from March 1, despite the fact that the Ukrainian company made an advance payment. The reason for the refusal is the absence of an additional agreement to the existing contract approved by both parties.
                  “As they say, an expensive testicle is on the day of Christ. Therefore, in this situation, acting in good faith, we returned the full amount received from Naftogaz Ukrainy. Obviously, gas will not be supplied to Naftogaz of Ukraine from March 1, ”said Alexander Medvedev, deputy chairman of the Gazprom board, whose words are quoted in the company’s message to RBC.

                  Read more at RBC:
                  https://www.rbc.ru/business/01/03/2018/5a97bdfd9a
                  7947442304d6a5?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yan
                  dex.com
              3. +3
                2 March 2018 20: 59
                Quote: Rusland
                But the West is silent, not hysterical, or it does not reach us.

                they just understand what could be next
              4. SOF
                +2
                2 March 2018 21: 44
                Quote: Rusland
                And the West is silent, not hysterical or it doesn’t reach us

                As Shakhnazarov put it yesterday: "The President, has opened a ransom for the" partners. "
                Those, one must think, are a little prigigli ....
                Now, continuing the card theme, probably until they review their cards, they will keep quiet ...
            2. +7
              2 March 2018 20: 01
              CHP of Ukraine massively switch to fuel oil
              ... take canadian wassat
            3. +2
              2 March 2018 22: 30
              Quote: Svarog
              I would like to see how the DNI and LC recognize.

              It will be interesting if people from Ukraine begin to flee en masse to the Donbass ... wink
          2. +8
            2 March 2018 19: 11
            Quote: cniza
            Interesting times are coming

            Kizyak will save Square wassatand the times are really interesting
            1. +4
              3 March 2018 00: 04
              Quote: hrych
              Kizyak will save Square

              They don’t have cattle, only cattle remained, and with them what a dung - one thing is obscene for good needs!
          3. +3
            2 March 2018 19: 29
            Come on there. These “interesting times” will soon drive Ukrainians to the grave, and you will “advance”. Schoolchildren at home, fasten the heating, you can indulge in "fan" outages - the economy should be economical wassat ! And there, the president promises an early spring - in general, everything will be nothing, probably, maybe belay
          4. +4
            2 March 2018 22: 37
            I'm sorry, but ...
            By joining this initiative personally, I also urge all government agencies to reduce

            I sincerely want to believe that not everything in this piglet is gone ... wink
            In fact, everything !!! An animal arguing how its people should “tighten” the belt when this fattening pig walks in the Maldives against the background of an impoverished people ... am
          5. +2
            3 March 2018 01: 25
            Quote: cniza
            Interesting times are coming.

            Very interesting. On the one hand, glad for Ukraine, galloped laughing , on the other hand, I live here myself, so not really.
        2. +4
          2 March 2018 18: 59
          Greetings Dmitry hi
          Quote: 210ox
          And what, on the site the word "", by the way, is it simply not good in translation is already prohibited?

          laughing I know so many words ... "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "
          "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "
          "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "
          1. +2
            3 March 2018 05: 40
            Victor, my respect hi
            I know so many words ... "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "
            "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" ""
            "
            "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "" "

            Gee s! I know too good
            wink
            1. +1
              3 March 2018 11: 23
              Glad to welcome, Sergey! hi drinks
              Quote: Svarog51
              I know too

              Freedom to Untranslatable Idiomatic Turnovers !!! laughing laughing
              1. +2
                3 March 2018 13: 43
                Freedom to Untranslatable Idiomatic Turnovers !!!

                Yes, I don’t mind, but here are the rules of the site ... request
                1. +1
                  3 March 2018 14: 04
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Yes, I don’t mind, but here are the rules of the site ...

                  I don’t really insist. laughing Rules are rules. But they are sometimes interpreted in a peculiar way.
                  1. +2
                    3 March 2018 14: 13
                    Rules are rules. But they are sometimes interpreted in a peculiar way.

                    It’s a matter of fact - at first I also paid, due to an inattentive reading of the rules. Four "orders" and a week bath in the zashashnik are available. feel
      2. +3
        2 March 2018 18: 28
        Fuel oil reserve fuel. Each CHP has a necessary supply. Our TPPs operate on the main type of fuel, either gas or coal.
        1. +8
          2 March 2018 18: 40
          That's right. And this reserve is ten days.
          Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
          Fuel oil reserve fuel. Each CHP has a necessary supply. Our TPPs operate on the main type of fuel, either gas or coal.
          1. 0
            2 March 2018 19: 21
            That's right, 210Q Ten days if the tanks with fuel oil to the eyeballs and CHP carries the maximum load. Fuel oil must be regularly transported.
        2. +7
          2 March 2018 18: 46
          As a rule, a three-day supply (in tanks), with constant heating, steam boilers are involved.
          1. +3
            2 March 2018 18: 55
            It all depends on the location of the station and the timing of the fuel supply. Most importantly, it’s true for a few days. But I think it will be extended for a couple of weeks.
            Quote: ul_vitalii
            As a rule, a three-day supply (in tanks), with constant heating, steam boilers are involved.
            1. +9
              2 March 2018 19: 09
              Dmitry, welcome hi here with a constant supply they may have a problem, but in the heating season it is clearly reserved for us, immediately the train will be adjusted.
      3. +12
        2 March 2018 18: 29
        Quote: Monos
        Where did they get fuel oil?

        From Belarus.
        1. +8
          2 March 2018 18: 46
          Quote: Gray Brother
          From Belarus.

          you are not quite right
          According to the Russian office of the Argus Media group, in 2017, the export of diesel fuel from Russia to Ukraine grew 3 times to 1,2 million tons. According to the forecasts of the A-95 Consulting Group, its volumes in 2017 will reach 1,9 million tons. The difference in numbers may be explained by the fact that part of the Russian resource is re-exported to the Ukrainian market under the guise of a Belarusian one.
          1. +5
            2 March 2018 18: 58
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            you are not quite right

            Fuel oil is oil refinery waste, not diesel fuel.
            And the Belarusian refineries once provided fuel to the entire western group of troops of the USSR - there fuel oil piled up and it is cheap.
            1. +6
              2 March 2018 19: 09
              Quote: Gray Brother
              And the Belarusian refineries once provided fuel to the entire western group of troops of the USSR - there fuel oil piled up and it is cheap.

              it was once, now our two plants have been modernized for deep oil refining, and in \ in Ukraine there are two of their plants, they have not been modernized
              1. +3
                2 March 2018 19: 12
                Quote: Angel_and_Demon
                it was once, now our two plants are modernized for deep oil refining,

                Fuel oil is obtained in any way - there is no getting around it.
                Belarusian fuel oil is even delivered to Europe, by the way through Ukraine.
        2. +2
          2 March 2018 18: 56
          But no! This is our business.
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Quote: Monos
          Where did they get fuel oil?

          From Belarus.
        3. 0
          3 March 2018 09: 49
          Those. actually ours turns out.
          1. 0
            3 March 2018 09: 52
            Quote: Kent0001
            Those. actually ours turns out.

            From Belarusian refineries, but there are no oil fields in Belarus - yes. But there is no war, trading is not prohibited.
      4. +7
        2 March 2018 18: 44
        Today, 75% of all fuel that Ukrainian drivers refuel is either made from Russian oil or imported from Russia

        something like that request
        1. +2
          2 March 2018 19: 02
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon
          something like that

          Are they driving oil fuel oil? laughing
          1. +3
            2 March 2018 19: 11
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Are they driving oil fuel oil?

            no - they are transferring their own more into fuel oil and heating oil, well, there are still supplies from Azerbaijan, but this is also not enough
      5. +17
        2 March 2018 18: 45
        Monos hi
        Where did they get fuel oil?
        They took a loan laughing It seems to me that all the same VV Putin dill managed to get out of himself laughing Since 2014 they tried to do as they could. But it turned out to be a business to sue 2.5 lard of greenery. Petya still found a pain point. Petya run For that kind of money for any reason Karachun will now laughing
        1. +19
          2 March 2018 18: 54
          Quote: Observer2014
          Petya run For such money for any reason the karachun will now

          it's probably too late hi
          1. +3
            2 March 2018 19: 42
            Uh! What an evolution ..
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            Quote: Observer2014
            Petya run For such money for any reason the karachun will now

            it's probably too late hi
          2. +1
            4 March 2018 01: 32
            Quote: Angel_and_Demon
            Quote: Observer2014
            Petya run For such money for any reason the karachun will now

            it's probably too late hi


            the latter almost read "fuck you ... b'yut" belay
            1. +3
              4 March 2018 09: 29
              Quote: Yuyuka
              the latter almost read "fuck you ... b'yut"

              maybe this be, well these Svidomo understand
        2. +4
          2 March 2018 18: 56
          Greetings, Sergey hi
          And for the sake of this 4 year of torment ...?
          1. +15
            2 March 2018 19: 00
            Monos Victor is 100% .Well, you yourself see how it happened. Better a terrible end for Ukraine. What horror without an end. Probably it was that very last drop. And it fell into Putin’s patience. Now the main thing is to put pressure on all fronts that there is urine. It's time to finish this bacchanalia. At the same time, and APU to pour for shelling the people.
            1. +5
              2 March 2018 19: 02
              Quote: Observer2014
              Now the main thing for this reason is to press on all fronts that there is urine. It is time to finish this bacchanalia. At the same time, add the APU for shelling the people.

              So then it is so ... But now, then what?
              1. +16
                2 March 2018 19: 13
                Monos
                But then what then?
                Then join the southeast to Novorossiya. And build relations as with a neighboring state. In any case, Ukraine as a whole is not needed. Yes, it is no longer needed by itself. No territory has surrendered where any production is now unprofitable without a sales market and cheap energy. Even with debts of more than 80 lard, only chernozem remains. And make money migrant workers. it is necessary for this reason to pursue a cunning migration policy. Either permanent residence and just to visit. Or in any way. No work in the Russian Federation. You need to push on all fronts.
                1. +6
                  2 March 2018 19: 25
                  They’ll start putting the West on their ears again, our contract was canceled, they are in shock, they haven’t acted with them yet. hiGood evening everyone.
                  1. +9
                    2 March 2018 19: 27
                    ul_vitalii
                    they’ll start to put the West on their ears, our contract was canceled, they are in shock, they haven’t done so with them yet.
                    It’s bad that they didn’t act. There was nothing to clatter with them for so many years.
                    1. +4
                      2 March 2018 19: 48
                      Yes, Sergey, it seems that the last string we burst
                      1. +1
                        2 March 2018 20: 26
                        will be indicative flogging?
                        what
            2. +3
              2 March 2018 22: 04
              Quote: Observer2014
              Probably this was the very last straw. And it fell into Putin’s patience. Now the main thing is to press urine on all fronts. It’s time to end this orgy.

              Most likely, on March 1, the previously planned hunting season opened. The weapon is cooked, the equipment is refueled, the cold is over (spring on the calendar), ....
              In short, they themselves opened the Overton window. Russia has ceased to retreat and goes on a counterattack. Now everything will be tough!
              1. +6
                2 March 2018 22: 09
                Genry
                Russia has ceased to retreat and goes on a counterattack. Now everything will be tough!
                I personally put a candle in the church for such a thing
              2. +1
                2 March 2018 22: 15
                can it scare you by March 18 and then find a compromise? that would not really shouted "unfair choice." then we will agree.
                do not close the entire negotiation window; sometimes it is necessary to change notes in the window with notes
                1. +4
                  2 March 2018 22: 59
                  antivirus
                  can it scare you by March 18 and then find a compromise? that would not really shouted "unfair choice." then we will agree.
                  do not close the entire negotiation window; sometimes it is necessary to change notes in the window with notes
                  Compromise ?! Yes, Putin is balancing on the verge of which year. Spending nerves, energy and most importantly life Russian. Enough. Stop. I personally got tired of it all. am
                2. 0
                  4 March 2018 14: 06
                  Quote: antivirus
                  can it scare you by March 18 and then find a compromise?

                  There can only be one compromise with the West: liberate the occupied territories of Russia (occupied former republics), then we will agree with you.
      6. +2
        2 March 2018 18: 47
        Is fuel oil from Lukashenko?
        1. +6
          2 March 2018 18: 56
          Quote: Victor N
          Is fuel oil from Lukashenko?

          If a year ago, railway supplies from Belarus unconditionally dominated in this segment, then by the fall of 2017, Russian pipeline exports almost equaled them in weight and value. By the fall, 25% of all diesel fuel imports to Ukraine had already arrived through the product pipeline. This was noticed even by the battalion commander Semyon Semenchenko, who at the end of November added to the collection of his blockades also blocking the terminal in Novograd-Volynsky.
      7. 0
        2 March 2018 20: 46
        Quote: Monos
        Where did they get fuel oil?

        "Minsk will help us!" Or in vain kissed in a hickey?
      8. 0
        2 March 2018 20: 58
        Quote: Monos
        Where did they get fuel oil?

        yes figs with fuel oil, how are they going to use it at GAS stations ?!
      9. 0
        2 March 2018 21: 26
        And there’s not much firewood on the Wild Field!
      10. 0
        3 March 2018 14: 05
        for Kiev, these ki will of course find fuel oil, but for other stations this is a taboo - here is the Uglegorskaya TPP (which Zakhar captured during the mover of Debaltsevsky and then retreated and the activists who stormed it) punished the largest in Europe there are 3 sides of 800 kW for fuel oil stupidly standing since ancient times.
    2. +12
      2 March 2018 18: 28
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Something tells me, tryndets comes - the power system! Yes, and heating - too. negative jumped around!

      Well, they will survive until the summer ... But gas is now in price! It covered Europe and the USA with the Arctic cold ..
      Yet God does not forget Russia in difficult times ..! soldier
      1. +19
        2 March 2018 19: 00
        MIKHAN, you are so small ... wink
        1. +3
          2 March 2018 19: 27
          This is the first time that Crimea took in 1737, but could not restrain it. Dear uncle, a good engineer, he didn’t please Elizabeth, but he lived a long time.
        2. +2
          2 March 2018 21: 05
          Quote: sabakina
          MIKHAN, you are so small ... wink

          laughing good Well, everything is right Sabakina, I’m here as "childish spontaneity" telling the truth .. (almost)) ... And it terribly infuriates many!
          I don’t have to live long and therefore I have the right to say what I think (albeit clumsily ...) hi
          1. +1
            2 March 2018 21: 28
            I don’t have to live long ....

            Where are you going?
            1. +2
              2 March 2018 21: 43
              Quote: FalconD
              I don’t have to live long ....

              Where are you going?

              Attack ... Last! soldier

              I'm already tired of men ... That would be so and die in a bloody attack ....! soldier
              1. +6
                2 March 2018 23: 55


                Then like that!)
                1. +1
                  3 March 2018 09: 10
                  Quote: FalconD


                  Then like that!)

                  The blood began to boil and the genes spun straight .. Russian ones, edrites them into the soul!
    3. +8
      2 March 2018 18: 34
      Ukrainians hang out hang out and hang out before)))
      1. +3
        2 March 2018 18: 56
        Quote: Clever man
        Ukrainians hang out hang out and hang out before)))

        They also have a way to winter - lower their body temperature, and in suspended animation. Although the brain of these hammers will cease rosin.
        Do not give gas. They also have “reverse supplies,” a “Pennsylvania” coal. Biogas from its own, um, well, you understand what, again. Oh, this stuff they just heaps.
        1. +2
          2 March 2018 20: 51
          There are many ways, yes. But the heat will be the old people, definitely. But Bandera will not refuse to warm themselves. What were you fighting for?
      2. 0
        3 March 2018 09: 56
        Do not .... hang out hang out but don't hang out laughing Those. jump on.
    4. +10
      2 March 2018 18: 52
      "We will have work - they don’t have. We will have pensions - they don’t. We will have the support of people - children and pensioners - they don’t have. We have children going to schools and kindergartens, and they will have them in the basements. Because they don’t know how to do anything! That's it, that's how we will win this war, "- Wanted ....! Received !!! --- "By joining this initiative personally, I also urge all government agencies to reduce the temperature in the rooms if possible. I also ask citizens to tighten their heating by only one degree for a few days or to avoid heat loss in homes as much as possible." Poroshenko.
    5. +4
      2 March 2018 18: 56
      Xx Almost every student of the Soviet school could find out from the calorific value table that gas had more gas than fuel oil. lol Who are they fooling about there? belay
      1. 0
        2 March 2018 21: 29
        And what does it have to do with it? The question is what is available
    6. 0
      2 March 2018 19: 19
      In the old foundry at TAPOiCh (9th workshop), which runs on gas, fuel oil furnaces were still preserved, just in case.
    7. +3
      2 March 2018 19: 53
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Something tells me, tryndets comes - the power system! Yes, and heating - too. negative jumped around!


      A week later, a good plus in the regionrequest a month earlier ... and better in 2014
      1. 0
        3 March 2018 09: 59
        So gas is not only warm, it is industry, although this is not about Ukraine, but about GERMANY.
        1. 0
          4 March 2018 01: 24
          Quote: Kent0001
          So gas is not only warm, it is industry, although this is not about Ukraine, but about GERMANY.


          in warmth it tends to sleep, but in cold weather brains work better - how to keep warm? and as an option - give on the head to those who direct the heating ... this is already for Ukraine hi
    8. 0
      2 March 2018 20: 09
      NOW THE SMILE OF LAVROV MUST BE FULLY COLD.
      we are always for everything good, against everything bad (and against lice)
      1. 0
        2 March 2018 21: 30
        Happiness is not when your calf was born, but when your cow died at a neighbor! So in your opinion?
        1. +1
          3 March 2018 10: 01
          So the neighbor fed this cow for you and fed it with your feed, ate milk in one mug and every morning you crap out the door out of a feeling of gratitude. It is somehow true.
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    1. +14
      2 March 2018 18: 19
      You probably won’t wish it, don’t be like Ukram.
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        1. +3
          2 March 2018 19: 14
          Quote: Sofa General
          It started when in the 90s there was a complete collapse in the Russian Federation, the country stood on the edge of the abyss, including the grocery - something no one rushed to help us. and they shoved "bush legs" over rabid grandmothers. Soldered with Polish colorful liquors and so on. And no one "darling was sick."

          I do not want to be like that.
          1. +10
            2 March 2018 20: 08
            Some optimist, now on the left, and on the right, and between the eyes at the same time, and the change is received at the pharmacy after discharge. smile
    2. +15
      2 March 2018 18: 23
      And to think weakly with your head!? .. Children in maternity hospitals. The earth carries such people.
      Quote: Sofa General
      I am waiting for a picture of frozen children in maternity hospitals, old people in basements, and so on.
      I won’t let a tear down anyway.
      PS If only you didn’t turn out to be a pre-election game to the public from the side you yourself know whom.
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        1. +13
          2 March 2018 18: 42
          Where’s the drunkard Petka, and where are the babies? Do you catch the difference? Or did you feel completely ill with your head?
          Quote: Sofa General
          wears. photo remind the petit in the sign "I am of Wave!" or do you remember?
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            1. +7
              2 March 2018 19: 24
              Quote: Sofa General
              Well, since the first "image" has not reached, I will launch the second. Maybe it will become closer.
              By chopping off the gas, you naively believe that you turn it off to the evil "Bandera" and "right-hander" - i.e. selectively “bad and bad”, and “good and right” - are they all right? Do you think that now it will be freezing Klitschko, Poroshenko, tagnybok?


              Babies in maternity hospitals, children in schools have parents, fathers. The fate of their descendants is in their hands and on their conscience. And if they do not understand or do not want to understand the reasons for what is happening, they are ready to silently endure all the hardships of their politicians, then they should only blame themselves.
              1. 0
                2 March 2018 19: 30
                Well, tell me how parents, fathers and so on will provide central heating in the above institutions.
                understanding of the reasons does not matter. there is action, there is opposition. Both the first and the second have consequences. ALL,
                1. +1
                  3 March 2018 10: 03
                  They would have provided normal power for themselves, and it’s much harder to provide heat than organizing Russophobia. Let them jump and keep warm.
              2. +9
                2 March 2018 20: 21
                Yes, he doesn’t have children and he didn’t have such a collective image, he trolls you all, and you hung your ears.
      2. +15
        2 March 2018 19: 13
        And nobody chopped off anything to anyone! you go to the site of naphthoase and go counter and look at the days without moskalsky hazu counter. And he is still ticking - there are more than 700 days !! Voluntary refusal of gas from Gazprom !! So who chopped off to whom ?? request Moreover, I repeat, the reserves in the UGSF are more than 9 billion cubic meters, which means the possibility of using up to 5 billion cubic meters !! This is all over Ukraine for 2, I repeat - 2 months of life !! damn, until May !! What for do they generally buy gas from someone, but there is also their own production. After all, they have a gas deficit of only 12-14 billion cubic meters per year ...
        1. 0
          3 March 2018 10: 05
          And so everyone started to fuss - that. Plus, UGSs support gas exports by Gazprom as a reserve. And so the Ukrainians are doing well on gas, as always, in a mansion, he pressed the current even Petyun gas for heating in his mansion.
    3. +16
      2 March 2018 18: 24
      Quote: Sofa General
      I am waiting for a picture of frozen children in maternity hospitals, old people in basements, and so on.
      I won’t let a tear down anyway.

      Well, scumbag belay From where you just come from.
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        1. +5
          2 March 2018 18: 35
          Quote: Sofa General
          yeah. those. when SUDDENLY the state interests were announced (receiving a dough for gas) in such a cynical way, you got a lot of philanthropy. and I became a scumbag.

          If my grandmother had, she would be a grandfather! There is no desire to communicate with you, bye.
        2. DDR
          +3
          2 March 2018 19: 30
          Quote: Sofa General
          And if I would say: how so, because there are our people in Ukraine, they freeze and everything like that - you would object:

          And you remember how many people came out on Victory Day with St. George ribbons and in Kiev and Odessa and other cities!
          Quote: Sofa General
          On conscience, pity and other pressure ..

          And this is our difference from the West. Hate the enemy and feel sorry for the defeated! Yes
          1. 0
            2 March 2018 19: 32
            Yeah. Then let’s supply gas for “kindness of soul”. Due to the difference.
            By the way, nobody has been defeated there yet.
        3. +3
          2 March 2018 19: 33
          Actually, these are not the words of O. Henry, but his hero Sharks. And not kaura, but bay (the story is “The Roads We Choose.” The Soviet film was called “Business People.” It's always good to know the classics.
          1. 0
            2 March 2018 19: 34
            The story was written by O'Henry? :)
    4. +7
      2 March 2018 18: 26
      Quote: Sofa General
      I am waiting for a picture of frozen children in maternity hospitals, old people in basements and so on

      Th tin in people’s heads ...
      PS: you will not see such paintings ...
      1. +6
        2 March 2018 18: 43
        Unfortunately there are similar marginals ..
        Quote: Topgun
        Quote: Sofa General
        I am waiting for a picture of frozen children in maternity hospitals, old people in basements and so on

        Th tin in people’s heads ...
        PS: you will not see such paintings ...
    5. +4
      2 March 2018 18: 53
      Quote: Sofa General
      I am waiting for a picture of frozen children in maternity hospitals, old people in basements, and so on.
      I won’t let a tear down anyway.
      PS If only you didn’t turn out to be a pre-election game to the public from the side you yourself know whom.

      Well, you turned down, there was a better opinion of you .. Bandera himself is annoying, but children, old people ...
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        1. +4
          2 March 2018 19: 40
          Quote: Sofa General
          See the answer about naivety: who will suffer in the first place.
          Well, since I didn’t bother to immediately paint that “the damned fascist regime in Ukraine turned off the heat there and there, started saving on the most defenseless”, but simply threw out the ending: that I was waiting for photos of those freezing, I immediately fell into scumbags.
          I will survive.

          The Russians do not fight with the elderly and children, neither when nor where.
          1. +2
            2 March 2018 19: 56
            Those. Do you think that by shutting off gas to Ukraine we are fighting ONLY with the regime? And what are there other people besides “supporters of the Ukrainian regime” - do we not consider them? So?
            Well, can you tell me then HOW to punish only and exclusively bad, to protect and defend in all good?
            By the way, the economic war, and gas is the economic war of the state against the state - does not divide into good and bad - it hits primarily the elderly and children. And no other way.
            1. 0
              2 March 2018 20: 12
              Quote: Sofa General
              By the way, an economic war, and gas is an economic war of the state against the state

              Not quite so, two subjects, allegedly state, entered into litigation. Naftagaz won them, and the joint-stock company Gazprom changes its shoes in the air. I do not see any difference between our bourgeoisie and the bourgeoisie there, the hell alone sciatic nerves will be torn among the people.
            2. +3
              2 March 2018 20: 38
              Quote: Sofa General
              Those. Do you think that by shutting off gas to Ukraine we are fighting ONLY with the regime? And what are there other people besides “supporters of the Ukrainian regime” - do we not consider them? So?
              Well, can you tell me then HOW to punish only and exclusively bad, to protect and defend in all good?
              By the way, the economic war, and gas is the economic war of the state against the state - does not divide into good and bad - it hits primarily the elderly and children. And no other way.


              It is about your specific statement, where the opinion was created that you crave to see photos of frozen children and the elderly. It’s clear that it won’t come to this .. for the summer is soon .. But the fact that you are pleased is sad .. Anyway, but propaganda brainwashed Ukrainians for 30 years. Ours at that time were inactive and this is another failure of Russia in foreign policy ... all this is understandable .. but I think the desire to see the frozen children of old people is not normal.
            3. 0
              3 March 2018 10: 09
              Why should this be a problem for Russia, which for so many years contained Bandera, even to the detriment of itself. And Bandera from childhood instills Russophobia in children. Violet who will freeze in Hohland.
      2. +4
        2 March 2018 20: 06
        Quote: Svarog
        Well, you turned down, there was a better opinion of you ..

        Yeah. Yesterday, for example, when a recommenant general about the boyars, their slaves and other nonsense was broadcasting. And taperecha, then, have your eyes opened? Nude - Nude ...
        1. +4
          2 March 2018 20: 40
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Quote: Svarog
          Well, you turned down, there was a better opinion of you ..

          Yeah. Yesterday, for example, when a recommenant general about the boyars, their slaves and other nonsense was broadcasting. And taperecha, then, have your eyes opened? Nude - Nude ...

          The fact of the matter is that, in general, the Sofa General says the right things .. But not in this case.
          1. +3
            2 March 2018 20: 50
            Quote: Svarog
            The fact of the matter is that, in general, the Sofa General says the right things .. But not in this case.

            And you can not be "a little pregnant." For example, I immediately recognized in him a muddy personality. In the way of his thoughts and manner of action. Not only is the separatist, but also a ghoul. And most importantly - the base reasonably argued for its nonsense competently fails ... Indeed, according to its logic in 1945. it was necessary to crush German children and old people with tanks, and not porridge, which was taken away from their relatives, to feed. Do you feel the level of seasoned humanity !?
            1. +4
              2 March 2018 20: 57
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Quote: Svarog
              The fact of the matter is that, in general, the Sofa General says the right things .. But not in this case.

              And you can not be "a little pregnant." For example, I immediately recognized in him a muddy personality. In the way of his thoughts and manner of action. Not only is the separatist, but also a ghoul. And most importantly - the base reasonably argued for its nonsense competently fails ... Indeed, according to its logic in 1945. it was necessary to crush German children and old people with tanks, and not porridge, which was taken away from their relatives, to feed. Do you feel the level of seasoned humanity !?

              You see everything in black and white .. the world is much brighter wink
              1. +10
                2 March 2018 21: 02
                Vasily is right, we have a concrete pretzel in front of us, here is either a training manual or is making fun of it. But it’s swimming a little, inconsistencies are visible hi
                1. +2
                  2 March 2018 21: 18
                  Thanks for your support hi Yesterday, in a polemic with the recommended general in the phrase "in the crowd is more fun" I did not quite carefully use the word "crowd", which he immediately clung to, adding to all sorts of nonsense. I repent, mia kulpa! It was necessary to apply "in a group of like-minded people!" I am glad that you are part of this group and not just a plus sign, but also said a word for me. hi again.
                  1. +10
                    2 March 2018 21: 31
                    Well, you see, here you are not alone hi
              2. +2
                2 March 2018 21: 12
                Quote: Svarog
                You see everything in black and white .. the world is much brighter

                Not at all! The world is full of shades regardless of our attitude to this. And if some kind of crucian was wound up in our pond, then this is an extra reason to rally closer to protect OUR values, and not to assent to suspicious characters.
                1. +6
                  2 March 2018 21: 26
                  Vasily, I read yesterday’s dregs in milk, I completely agree with you. hi
                  1. +1
                    2 March 2018 22: 15
                    Quote: ul_vitalii
                    Vasily, I read yesterday’s dregs in milk, I completely agree with you. hi

                    Thank! Contact if that good
                2. +4
                  2 March 2018 21: 39
                  Quote: Vasyan1971
                  Quote: Svarog
                  You see everything in black and white .. the world is much brighter

                  Not at all! The world is full of shades regardless of our attitude to this. And if some kind of crucian was wound up in our pond, then this is an extra reason to rally closer to protect OUR values, and not to assent to suspicious characters.

                  You and rally to the Maidan laughing Is it easier to bite the crowd? wink They also rallied there so much that they still cannot remove the pots from their heads laughing I believe that any opinion can be interesting if it does not go beyond morality .. And even your opinion is interesting, but I do not share it ..
                  1. +1
                    2 March 2018 22: 13
                    Quote: Svarog
                    So you and rally to the Maidan Crowd easier to bite?

                    Well, firstly, do not "bite", but fight off such "generals" (feel the nuance?). He is not alone because he is like that here.
                    And secondly, Russia is precisely that Power, united from many nations. And invincible, due to its cohesion. Phrase: "century-old fraternal peoples" does anything tell you? I hope so."
                    And where is the reference to the Maidan here in my words?
                    Here you say: "You see everything in black and white .. the world is much brighter."! And you yourself have a very specific logical chain: rally - bite - Maidan. No more, no less... request How so?
                    Quote: Svarog
                    I believe that any opinion can be interesting if it does not go beyond morality ..

                    Again - you can not be a little pregnant. If a bird looks like a duck, quacks, like a duck and swims like a duck, then this is a duck. And if the character makes statements like the general and stubbornly defends them, i.e. is not a mistaken person, but deeply convinced of his innocence, then ANY of his opinion (going beyond morality or not going out) is not interesting to me personally, but causes instinctive rejection.
                    And thank you, EVEN my opinion is interesting to you, even though you do not share it.
                    Then, say goodbye ...
                    1. +4
                      2 March 2018 22: 18
                      Quote: Vasyan1971
                      Then, say goodbye ...

                      hi
          2. +1
            3 March 2018 10: 11
            HH can be oppressed "in the cold," as from a wilderness from an isolated space, where a certain small-town interpretation of what is happening around prevails.
  3. +6
    2 March 2018 18: 15
    And fuel oil is from where, from the forest. Well, nature does not teach ukrov neither the mind nor the mind. But peremoga-Gazprom bent.
  4. +1
    2 March 2018 18: 17
    And how can I screw the battery one degree?
    1. +7
      2 March 2018 18: 21
      Quote: Gray Brother
      And how can I screw the battery one degree?

      Well, probably - kick her! laughing
      1. +4
        2 March 2018 18: 23
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Well, probably - kick her!

        My dad once got on her feet and she is now regulated in a wide range)))
    2. +1
      2 March 2018 18: 24
      Well, probably you can. Try it. In the ram’s horn.
      Quote: Gray Brother
      And how can I screw the battery one degree?
      1. +1
        2 March 2018 18: 27
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, probably you can. Try it. In the ram’s horn.

        Well, this installation will succeed, and if there is boiling water, at the same time, the performance will whip.
    3. +1
      2 March 2018 21: 03
      Quote: Gray Brother
      And how can I screw the battery one degree?

      It’s very simple, with a vent, but not on Soviet, cast-iron batteries — that’s why this advice to Ukrainian grannies and grandfathers is up to the lantern.
      1. +1
        3 March 2018 08: 08
        Quote: Varna
        Very simple, vent

        The torsion of the valve at home does not affect the temperature of the coolant in the highway, this is just a matter of comfort.
        1. +1
          3 March 2018 10: 13
          In Moldova, physics is not taught. One Romanian language remained ... and national history.
  5. 0
    2 March 2018 18: 19
    Will fuel oil also be bought "European"?
  6. +2
    2 March 2018 18: 21
    Yes, even if they switch to dung.
    1. +2
      2 March 2018 18: 32
      Quote: vinni-puk
      Yes, even if they switch to dung.

      When we take Kiev, we’ll let some go to Siberia for firewood .. let them remember the past ..!
  7. +1
    2 March 2018 18: 29
    How quickly the state can become its shadow, and an enemy to the population, for there are no people in the ukraine, there are only those who still inhabit these lands!
    1. 0
      3 March 2018 10: 14
      There the people are the same as their rulers.
  8. +1
    2 March 2018 18: 32
    Petro Poroshenko on this background, called on the citizens of Ukraine to "screw" the gas.

    He can even open a window in a Spanish villa.
  9. +1
    2 March 2018 18: 48
    Something in my strange statement.
    Gas boiler houses can’t switch to fuel oil right away, it’s a lot of additional equipment and it must be working well, it cannot be assembled on the knee. I’m not talking about the fact that fuel oil also costs money and is simply not available. all educational institutions until March 7?
  10. +6
    2 March 2018 18: 50
    "Ukrainian Naftogaz and Polish PGNiG entered into an agreement for urgent gas supplies in March. The press service of the Polish company reports." - RT
    can the Poles also screw a faucet, otherwise I look at their surplus?
  11. +2
    2 March 2018 18: 50
    Manure, “fart steam”, is the main type of fuel in an independent one (forests are cut for sale on the foreign market! This is one of the most important export items of the Outskirts! There is no hope for firewood!) It seems that it remains only to “skip” until mid-April and may be remembered True in a slightly different interpretation, the words of the Great Gogol - "not every bird reaches the middle of the Dnieper!"
  12. +2
    2 March 2018 18: 58
    This is called - jumped ... To the handle ...
  13. +1
    2 March 2018 19: 06
    What nonsense! ?? According to the same Naftogaz in the underground gas storage facilities of Ukraine for 9 billion cubic meters of gas. The daily rise is possible a little more than 100 million cubic meters + own production has not gone anywhere + small but supplies from Slovakia, Hungary, Poland ... where are the non-brothers doing gas ?? This is taking into account that in mid-March they no longer need heating. request Or in storage facilities there is much less gas, but this is unlikely, because The EU tightly controlled this process or there is someone's interest in muddy schemes, well, or someone has a lot of unrealized fuel oil, and under the guise of it you can also float at OblEnergo with a margin of 30-50% .. Petro Oleseich, are you this? Confess your fuel oil! laughing
    1. NKT
      +1
      2 March 2018 20: 33
      The UGS facility must have a minimum of 6.5-7 billion gas in order to maintain sufficient reservoir pressure for gas production and the less gas in the UGS facility, the lower the pressure and, consequently, less production.
    2. +1
      2 March 2018 22: 59
      Quote: Lev Bronsch
      where do the brothers do gas?

      You know, Ukraine Power sold most of its UGS facility to the campaign, and they learned about it first in Gazprom and then in Europe. Therefore, Europe is silent, and Gazprom immediately washes his hands, a convenient moment to leave without excuses. That is, the UGS campaign is half empty and there is only enough reserves just to reach the spring, or maybe they stole more, even not reaching the spring. In general, they stole a lot from the campaign and now they will switch the arrows to Gazprom, that he didn’t deliver gas and they can’t reach warming, they will put pressure on pity ...... negative
  14. 0
    2 March 2018 19: 07
    Poison the whole of Europe!
  15. 0
    2 March 2018 19: 15
    Quote: cniza
    Interesting times are coming.

    It’s just that spring has come, it will be warm soon, and by the fall they’ll solve something.
  16. +2
    2 March 2018 19: 16
    As I understand it, this is a reserve in case of an accident at the hydraulic structures. How long will it last? For a week, if you hadn’t stolen before?
  17. +1
    2 March 2018 19: 26
    Sometimes, the author of the title of the article wants to be honest. Yes on the go, so that the sparks from the eyes flew. What are we happy about? That our people are freezing? Oh no no no! Shame on us, so there are ours in Crimea, but on the continent ₽ & @ Ukrainians who do not mind?
    Oh no no no.
    1. +2
      2 March 2018 19: 38
      our people do not need to hutskraynichat .... 4 years are silent
      1. Don
        +4
        2 March 2018 20: 53
        Those who did not remain silent are in prison or in coffins. So the rest have to keep quiet. And hutskraining is our common take off, but we, too, in the 90's did not go to hang up traitors on Red Square when the traitors of the Union collapsed, and then suffered devastation and are still suffering. In a stranger's eye we see a speck ..
        1. +1
          2 March 2018 21: 19
          Right. I didn’t answer to a comrade above, otherwise, the nationalist horror will overflow with foam.
          Thank you for your brevity.
        2. +1
          2 March 2018 21: 21
          Let's go. but too little ... and I see at home, including
  18. +1
    2 March 2018 19: 37
    No ... they are already buying gas from 600 Amertugars per 1000m3 from the Pan. "Gazprom" has cheapened ... by 300 offered ..
  19. +2
    2 March 2018 19: 54
    Apparently not in vain Yanukovych recently lit up ...
    Maybe everything will be easier to solve, now you can insist on the legal subtleties .. hi
  20. 0
    2 March 2018 20: 10
    there dung in bulk let drown on health
  21. 0
    2 March 2018 20: 24
    Quote: Rusland
    But the West is silent, not hysterical, or it does not reach us. Canceled the contract, that's cool!

    The West has another concern right now, Putin’s speech about rockets is being discussed! There was a smell of fried, not to the hills! belay lol
  22. 0
    2 March 2018 20: 24
    I also ask citizens to tighten the heating only one degree for a few days

    yyy feel that he’ll be screwed something wassat and maybe even unscrew .... lol
  23. +2
    2 March 2018 20: 26
    But it will be possible to award Poroshenko some medal or prize for his contribution to the fight against global warming.
  24. +1
    2 March 2018 20: 57
    The official website of Kyivenergo, as well as the websites of a number of other energy companies in Ukraine, publish statements on emergency measures to restore heat generation and partially electricity. For this, as stated, "local diversification" is being carried out. Generating capacities are transferred from gas fuel to fuel oil.

    sorry what nonsense ?!
    this is a complete restructuring of the station
    1. +5
      2 March 2018 21: 20
      The boilers are equipped with gas and fuel oil burners at the same time, i.e. fuel oil and gas pipelines are supplied, fuel oil is heated with steam to 130-150 gr. and is under pressure up to 25 kg.
  25. +2
    2 March 2018 21: 09
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Something tells me, tryndets comes - the power system! Yes, and heating - too. negative jumped around!

    So they are "non-volatile from" unwashed "Russia ?!
  26. 0
    2 March 2018 21: 14
    Urgently buy fuel oil, coal from Africa, installment payment - Petro Poroshenko.
  27. +1
    2 March 2018 21: 23
    Friends, I think this is all according to the worked out scheme, unfortunately, today there are loud statements, and tomorrow, then silence, then screams and letters from Tse European consumers to Mr. Putin .... and .... curtain ..... .It poured it all the time .. Ovation, gas is on, the contract has been extended, the budget will pay the costs, everything is fine, you stay there, something like that))
  28. 0
    2 March 2018 21: 35
    You can burn fat by the way, also very high-calorie)
  29. 0
    2 March 2018 21: 40
    So simple ? Why haven’t we done this before?
  30. 0
    2 March 2018 21: 46
    tolerated and will continue to tolerate
  31. 0
    2 March 2018 21: 48

    And laughter and tears
  32. +1
    2 March 2018 22: 01
    The most important production of steel, including armor without natural gas, will become more complex and costly. It was necessary to do this in 2014, for 4 years already the armored industry of Ukraine would slow down.
  33. 0
    2 March 2018 22: 31
    Kakly from Poland is cheaper to buy gas - run reverse turn on
  34. +2
    2 March 2018 22: 53
    Every day at two thermal power plants in Kiev, providing heat 65,7% metropolitan consumers...
    And in the regions what? I dare to suggest that it is much worse than in the capital. The howl stands on the censor: we turn out to be gas from ... to (well, you know ...) they were still eating - but 700 (1300 (!) From other sources) days ago, the Kiev authorities announced that they had completely stopped supplying gas from Russia. And everyone was sure that they fed on the return from Europe, and that the underground storage was full. And then something went wrong on the news. And very big suspicions about the underground storage flew. According to the assurances of the authorities, the gas storage facilities are completely filled, upon the termination of (say, emergency) gas supply, they must provide Europe wink uninterrupted supply due to these very PCH, and if something is wrong? feel And Petro blurted out something about saving. In 25 degree frosts in some regions (not my words, from the site). When will they see clearly?
  35. +1
    2 March 2018 23: 00
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Something tells me, tryndets comes - the power system! Yes, and heating - too. negative jumped around!

    Who jumped? So then we owe them 2 billion by court order. And today's Gazprom’s decision to terminate all contracts with Ukraine is a tantrum from powerlessness and anger.
    It was necessary to cut gas ends with Ukrainians back in 2014, and not now to build a girl with character from herself.
  36. +4
    2 March 2018 23: 24
    In joining this initiative in person, I also urge all government agencies to reduce the temperature in the rooms if possible. I also ask citizens to fasten the heating by only one degree for several days or to avoid heat loss in houses as much as possible, Poroshenko said.. Somewhere I heard something like this "... soldiers, we’ll conquer Russia by winter and meet Christmas at home ..." what
  37. BAI
    0
    2 March 2018 23: 33
    Let Westinghouse switch to fuel. The main thing is that the wind should be east.
    In general, the good news. Maybe it will reach the top in Russia that in 2019 it is necessary not to partially, but to completely stop transit through Ukraine.
  38. +1
    3 March 2018 00: 03
    Against the backdrop of such events, we have not only Nord Stream-2, as it will go by fuel oil, but also, possibly, 3,4 ....
    It is high time to take up our brothers and begin to correct their uterus where it should be. Indecision and gentleness in dealing with them, allows you to become infinite. It is true that we began to use the disagreement with the payment of past deliveries as an excuse. Pay, and we will talk further. And before that, heat fuel oil. Apparently, the chickens are not biting your money if you have the opportunity to convert your power plants to another type of fuel. Think it over, you have to convert it again, this time to gas. Need to learn. Hard. Without ceremony.
  39. 0
    3 March 2018 05: 57
    Well, with RB fuel oil then it will help, I hope that the price of a bit is turned upward,
    all the same brothers ...
    1. 0
      3 March 2018 11: 45
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well, with RB fuel oil then it will help, I hope that the price of a bit is turned upward,
      all the same brothers ...

      With Belarusians carried out outreach, carefully and efficiently. They explained that it is not good to get such an amount of oil at preferential prices from Russia, to drive gasoline and compete with breadwinners on the world market. Charity was decently reduced, and the supply volume left was sufficient for its own needs. But no more. Old Man yelled, yelled, but understood and calmed down. If you repeat something obscene, you have to repeat the lesson. Repetition is the mother of learning, it seems?
  40. 0
    3 March 2018 08: 39
    Quote: Gnefredov
    Sometimes, the author of the title of the article wants to be honest. Yes on the go, so that the sparks from the eyes flew. What are we happy about? That our people are freezing? Oh no no no! Shame on us, so there are ours in Crimea, but on the continent ₽ & @ Ukrainians who do not mind?
    Oh no no no.

    Where do you see our people? Yes, let it all freeze like dinosaurs? Crimea is Russian land and there is no need to distort it, and if people live there, then they consider themselves Russians, otherwise 95% would not vote for it.
  41. 0
    3 March 2018 09: 33
    And where do they get fuel oil from Russia?
  42. 0
    3 March 2018 11: 11
    They are trumpeting about saving gas, but will they extract fuel oil from the air?
    So the purchase of oil will increase. And where do we get oil in the region? Belorussia?
    Poland?
    Again, in Russia.
  43. 0
    3 March 2018 11: 15
    Let them talk about the environmental effect of the transition from gas to fuel oil.
  44. 0
    3 March 2018 13: 15
    . . . . . . . . . .

    . . . . . . . . . .
  45. 0
    3 March 2018 14: 17
    And the Americans are silent because they are not up to Ukraine. Then the Russians declassified such a weapon that "Mama Do not Cry." They would understand how now to live with new Russian weapons at hand. And the fact that some kind of Ukraine is somewhere there, on the outskirts of the planet, is freezing, so that’s all for the Americans "according to plan." They must, according to their plans, die out and freeze out so that America becomes fat.
  46. 0
    3 March 2018 19: 14
    Make friends with your head. VV went for the last term, HE did VERY a lot, and don’t have to yap, try to raise such a page. Everything is correct, but with mattresses it would be better, Ukrainians got to Fascism. VV does everything right, YOUNG man is under control. and no one will wipe us off this ball.

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