News from the president: the project "Sarmat"

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Last Thursday, Russian President Vladimir Putin addressed a message to the Federal Assembly. The most important place in the address of the head of state was the story of recent successes in the field of strategic nuclear missiles. The circumstances are forcing our country to develop this direction, and by now this development has led to the most interesting results. The president revealed some information about already known projects, and also for the first time announced the existence of some other developments. One of the topics of the presidential report was a complex with an intercontinental rocket under the code "Sarmat".

Starting his story about new strategic weapons, V. Putin recalled the events of recent years. So, at the beginning of the last decade, the United States unilaterally withdrew from the ABM Treaty, as a result of which Russia's nuclear potential was under threat. Despite the constant criticism of Moscow, Washington continued to develop anti-missile systems and deploy new complexes. However, Russia not only protested and warned. In recent years, Russian military and scientists have been working on promising weapons. As a result, they managed to make a big step in the development of strategic systems.




Transportation container with an experienced rocket


V. Putin recalled that in order to counter North American missile defense in Russia, not too expensive but very effective means of breaking through defenses are being created and constantly improved. Such equipment is carried by all Russian intercontinental missiles. In addition, the development of completely new models of high-performance strategic weapons was begun.

According to the president, the Ministry of Defense and enterprises of the rocket and space industry have already begun an active phase of testing the latest complex with ICBM heavy class. Perspective system received the designation "Sarmat". The head of state pointed out that a new product is being created in order to replace the existing R-36M “Voevoda” missiles, created in Soviet times and known for their high combat power.

V. Putin argues that the combat capabilities of the Sarmat are much higher than those of its predecessor. The new ICBM has a launch mass of more than 200 t. A characteristic feature of the rocket is the reduced active portion of the flight, which to some extent makes it difficult to intercept and destroy. In terms of flight range, number of warheads and warhead capacity, the promising Sarmat outperforms the old Voevod.


Loading the rocket into the mine


The flexibility of the missile is provided by the ability to carry warheads of various types. Sarmat will be able to use nuclear warheads of various capacities and modern means of breaking through missile defense. In addition, it will be possible to equip it with a hypersonic warhead, which has certain advantages over units of the traditional appearance.

The P-36M missile has a firing range of up to 11 thousand km. The new complex, as the president noted, has practically no range limits. As part of the Message to the Federal Assembly, a video was shown demonstrating the capabilities of the new complex. Among other things, it showed that the Sarmat rocket is able to get into the Western Hemisphere both through the North Pole and the South Pole. Such opportunities in an obvious way increase the potential of the complex in the context of a missile defense breakthrough of a potential enemy.

The president also noted some features of launchers for a promising rocket. The product "Sarmat" is proposed to be used with protected launchers with high characteristics. The parameters of the means of basing and the energy performance of the missiles, according to V. Putin, will ensure the use of the missile complex in any conditions and in different situations.


Layout of the PC-28 for the first time leaves the launcher


The last Message of the President to the Federal Assembly was curiously different from the previous ones. The speech of the head of state was accompanied by a demonstration of videos of a particular subject. Naturally, the videos were also present in the part of the presentation on advanced weapons.

For the first time, politicians and the general public were shown shots from the Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile tests. First, in the video demonstrated the process of loading the transport and launch container with a rocket into the mine launcher. Then showed the actual launch. The rocket in the characteristic black and white “chess” color, necessary for monitoring its work, with the help of a powder pressure accumulator flew out of the mine and started the engine. All further flight stages, however, were demonstrated in the form of computer graphics. The drawn rocket went along a predetermined trajectory, dropped warheads and successfully hit its intended targets in the Western Hemisphere.

Having completed his story about the progress of the Sarmat project and the consequences of its adoption, Vladimir Putin turned to other topics from the area of ​​strategic nuclear missile systems. In a matter of minutes, the president unveiled a number of new products that will be discussed for a long time at all levels and are likely to have the most serious impact on the strategic situation in the world. However, we will not hurry and carefully consider the Sarmat project, including taking into account the latest information read out personally by the head of state.


First moments after the start


First of all, it must be recalled that the PC-28 “Sarmat” project is already well known to specialists and the general public. The fifth-generation missile system with a heavy intercontinental silo-based missile is intended to replace outdated systems Р-36М and УР-100УТТХ. The project was developed at the State Rocket Center. V.P. Makeeva (Miass) with the participation of some other domestic defense enterprises.

According to reports from past years, in the foreseeable future, strategic missile forces were to receive a promising product with a launch mass of more than 100 t and the possibility of incurring a large combat load. Over time, it became known that "Sarmat" has a three-stage structure and is equipped with a stage of breeding warheads, ensuring their individual guidance. All stages of the rocket must be equipped with a liquid engine, "drowned" in the bottom of the tanks. From a certain time in the context of the PC-28 project, the possibility of using the promising hypersonic 4202 / U-71 hypersonic equipment was mentioned.

According to various estimates, depending on the task, the Sarmat rocket could carry up to 10 warheads and deliver them to a range of at least 16 thousand km. This means that such missiles, located in different parts of the Strategic Missile Forces, will be able to attack targets almost anywhere in the world. At the same time, in some cases, it was possible to choose the flight route that is optimal from the point of view of the missile defense bypass.


The inclusion of engines. Visible dumped powder charge tray


It is known that in the middle of the current decade the PC-28 project left the design stage, and the first tests began. So, in the middle of 2016, tests of new rocket engines were completed, after which preparation for the tests of the rocket as a whole was launched. It was reported that flight tests will be conducted at the Plesetsk test site. To perform them, one of the mine launchers of the landfill was repaired and restored. In the past, the press reported some delays, as a result of which the first Sarmat rocket launch was launched only at the end of December last year, with a noticeable delay in relation to the initial plans.

Apparently, it was the video from the December start that became the “illustration” for V. Putin’s speech. According to known data, the Sarmat tests were planned to begin with a throw start, and, apparently, it was shown to the public. Thus, the product with a characteristic color, emitted from the mine, was a mock-up of a full-fledged rocket, having the same mass and similar geometric characteristics. The task of the layout in throwing tests is to exit the launcher, during which a set of sensors captures all the main parameters.

For obvious reasons, the mock test design is not intended for full-fledged full-range flight. In this regard, in the demo video showing the capabilities of the rocket and its principle of operation, after the real launch frames, there was an animated flight with all the main operations. It is also necessary to remind that at the disposal of science and industry there are still no means capable of conducting high-quality video filming of ICBMs on a trajectory from the most spectacular angles. Therefore it is necessary to apply the achievements of modern cinema and animation.


Demonstration of possible rocket flight routes


In the past, when the promising PC-28 project was far from being fully implemented, officials talked about the possible adoption of a missile in service in the 2017-18 years. By now, plans have changed in a noticeable way. Flight tests of the rocket are scheduled for the current and next year, and the complex is expected to be put into service no later than 2020 of the year.

Over the next few years, the Krasnoyarsk Machine-Building Plant will have to prepare for full-scale serial construction of promising missiles for delivery to the Strategic Missile Forces. In parallel, the bases of this type of troops will be used to repair and upgrade the existing launchers of the Voevod missiles, which, after the upgrade, will have to work with the new Sarmatians. The process of replacing the P-36M missiles with new PC-28 will take several years. In the absence of serious problems, it can be completed by the mid-twenties.

According to known data, the heavy missiles P-36М and P-36М2 remain in service with only two strategic rocket forces, and their total number does not exceed fifty. Several dozen heavy UR-XNUMHUTTHs also continue to serve. This means that the program of rearmament of the rocket forces should not differ in special dimensions, and therefore will not be excessively expensive or long. In any case, no later than 100-2025, the Russian armed forces will have to abandon all the heavy ICBMs that are currently available, due to their complete moral and physical obsolescence.


Warheads on approaching the target


Based on the already known and recently announced information, it is possible to draw new conclusions about the goals and objectives of the PC-28 Sarmat project. The first and one of the main goals of this complex is to maintain the required combat capability of the strategic missile forces by timely replacing outdated weapons. Moreover, the replacement of old missiles will lead to a serious increase in the combat potential. With enhanced performance, the new rocket will even be able to more effectively solve the tasks assigned to it, even if it is replaced in a one-to-one proportion.

According to reports, the Sarmat ICBM will be able to deliver combat units to a range of at least 15-16 thousand km. This means that “on sight” of the missile complex can be any objects in almost any part of the planet. In the case of less remote areas, it is possible to choose the most convenient trajectory corresponding to the tasks. For example, due to improved energy, a rocket can literally bypass at least the stationary enemy missile defense systems. In combination with the means used breakthrough on the type of false targets, etc. this possibility dramatically reduces the effectiveness of missile defense.

V. Putin confirmed that the promising heavy rocket will be able to carry the newest hypersonic combat unit. Earlier in different sources it was repeatedly mentioned that one of the variants of combat equipment of the PC-28 could be the product "4202" or Yu-71. A guided combat unit of this type is a hypersonic aircraft with controls and the ability to carry a nuclear charge. It was argued that the unit Yu-71 will be able to reach speeds of up to several kilometers per second, maneuver along the course and be independently guided to the specified target.



The high speed of descent and approach to the target, as well as the ability to maneuver along the trajectory, are obvious advantages of the 4202 system. Existing foreign missile defense systems are designed to intercept high-speed ballistic targets. The possibility of hitting a maneuvering hypersonic object, at least, is questionable. For the correct and timely response to such weapon the probable adversary requires fundamentally new systems, the existence of which is not yet known.

To date, the promising heavy ICBM RS-28 "Sarmat" was put to the test, and in the next few years it is planned to adopt it. The emergence of such weapons will not only preserve the required capabilities of the Strategic Missile Forces, but also increase the potential of this kind of troops without a serious change in the number of deployed missiles. Due to this, in particular, it is possible to implement existing plans without contradiction with existing international agreements. In addition, it will be possible to solve one of the main tasks of recent times - to ensure the required combat effectiveness of intercontinental missiles in the conditions of the development and deployment of foreign anti-missile complexes.

News about the PC-28 “Sarmat” project, announced by Vladimir Putin, are undoubtedly a reason for optimism and pride in the Russian defense industry. However, having completed the story about the new ICBM, the president did not stop and announced the existence of even bolder and more interesting projects. Now it was about increasing defense capability at the expense of fundamentally new types of weapons with outstanding technical and combat characteristics.


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  1. +3
    3 March 2018 06: 37
    Smiled the abbreviation U-71 immediately remembered "Operation Y"! What would no one guessed.
    1. +4
      3 March 2018 06: 45
      News from the president:
      1. +7
        3 March 2018 08: 04
        of course, these statements sound premature; before adoption, there is still much to be done and tested. But you need to see it is necessary to cool the hot heads of partners, or the election does not give rest ...
        1. +3
          4 March 2018 00: 37
          No matter how it was them (hotheads), on the contrary, not pushed for the accelerated implementation of their plans and programs.
  2. mvg
    +13
    3 March 2018 07: 11
    Where did you get so many puppy squeals? From the previous article, I realized that it was already flying. And then the “carcass” on the powder keg was planted and rejoiced. Remember how hard the Mace "took off." And even the fact that it is liquid .... still 3-4 of the year, while flying.
    This is to Sith ...
    1. +10
      3 March 2018 08: 12
      Quote: mvg
      3-4 more years until it flies.

      Perhaps the first products will go to the troops at the end of the year. First at 13rd, then at 62rd. Sarmat, in terms of combat use, continues the line of Soviet R-36orb orbital missiles (8K69, "Cliff") withdrawn from service in 1983. Under the OSV-2 agreement of 1979, OSV-2 itself did not enter into force (there was a confrontation with the United States over Afghanistan and the agreement was not ratified by Congress), due to which the creation of orbital missiles was not limited in any way

      1. mvg
        +4
        3 March 2018 08: 28
        Perhaps the first products will go to the troops at the end of the year.

        I read it. We have much more experience in liquid than in solid fuel, and this is land ... but new blocks can slow down everything .. They will also be driven into mines from R-36, there will also be more options.
        ps: let it fly first, then you can beat the shoe on the table.
        1. +14
          3 March 2018 08: 38
          Quote: mvg
          let it fly first, then you can beat the shoe on the table


          You don’t need to beat the shoes .. it’s better to gently offer foreign partners-Do not want to conclude contracts with Gazprom? Sign a contract with the Strategic Missile Forces also brings light and heat to an unlimited number of foreign customers ... bully
          1. +5
            4 March 2018 03: 17
            Quote: Ascetic
            You don’t need to beat the shoes .. it’s better to gently offer foreign partners-Do not want to conclude contracts with Gazprom? Sign a contract with the Strategic Missile Forces also brings light and heat to an unlimited number of foreign customers ... bully

            EYN also thought, I’ll get a big bomb and then .... I got a blockade and now his people are starving, you know in the "West", they can also bite a bit and send it in 3 letters.
            Russia is not the only country with nuclear weapons, it must be remembered very well before putting forward ultimatums.
            1. +3
              4 March 2018 18: 46
              Gaddafi abandoned the big bomb, and Eun is alive, what not to say about Gaddafi
      2. +3
        3 March 2018 11: 26
        Quote: Ascetic
        Perhaps the first products will go to the troops at the end of the year.

        A year after the first throw test?
        1. 0
          3 March 2018 12: 07
          If a year after the throwing tests they fill the mines, the Americans will roar with grief: they invested so much money and energy in missile defense, and the Russians themselves eliminated the missile threat.
          1. AUL
            +2
            3 March 2018 12: 51
            Quote: sabotage
            If a year after the casting tests they fill the mines, the Americans will roar with grief.
            Do you think this prospect is real? After all, not even a product prototype took off on the cast ones - a mass-sized blank with a primitive engine to pull it away from the mine.
        2. +2
          3 March 2018 12: 23
          Quote: Cherry Nine
          A year after the first throw test?

          What's the problem? LCI a couple of starts to confirm the declared characteristics. if everything is fine, the pre-production game becomes experimental-combat ..
          1. +2
            3 March 2018 12: 43
            Quote: Ascetic
            LCI a couple of starts to confirm the declared characteristics. if everything is fine, the pre-production game becomes experimental-combat ..

            And how does this happen in real life? With any real rocket?
            1. +1
              5 March 2018 14: 00
              In the real life:
              "In the near future, the Russian army will receive several pre-production Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missiles, said Viktor Bondarev, head of the committee on defense and security.
              However, he noted that talking about serial production of Sarmat "prematurely in the next year or two". The equipment of the troops with these complexes is planned for 2018-2027. "
              RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/defense_safety/20180302/1515640231
              .html

              Translating into a normal language - full testing and deployment of mass production - no earlier than 2023-24. This is with a very optimistic assessment (given the current problems with the quality of design and production).
    2. +2
      3 March 2018 12: 11
      Quote: mvg
      Where did you get so many puppy squeals? From the previous article, I realized that it was already flying. And then the “carcass” on the powder keg was planted and rejoiced. Remember how hard the Mace "took off." And even the fact that it is liquid .... still 3-4 of the year, while flying.
      This is to Sith ...

      The Institute of Thermal Engineering and Makeeva GRC are completely different organizations, suffice it to say that the GREC developed Sineva, and they have plenty of experience in the field of liquid ICBMs ... there is reason for optimism (pah pah pah) Yes
    3. +4
      4 March 2018 23: 15
      You do not literally crawl out of the last articles on the President’s Address; bring your drinking companions with you. Do not believe? Don’t believe it. But you have one thought - And Katz offers to give up. Well, give up, why should the healthy part of society call for this? And the pluses you still put the Jews? Well, it looks like them.
    4. 0
      9 March 2018 15: 04
      notice how neither Bulava nor PAKFA flew before Serdyukov left, but Shoigu came and it all worked at once. Immediately held the largest exercises since the Soviet era on 100 thousand people,
      Does it happen in reality? Didn’t suggest a distracting move? just on 5 +. Better let the enemy think that you are weak to the moment you need.
      1. 0
        9 March 2018 15: 09
        Quote: nikon7717
        Immediately held the largest exercises since the Soviet era for 100 thousand people.,

        There were no such teachings in modern Russia. Up to a maximum of 10 thousand were involved (or even less) in conjunction with Belarus
  3. +4
    3 March 2018 07: 29
    Sarmat, of course, is a key project. Without it, we are completely naked, because we can’t endlessly extend the deadlines for the Voivode.
    I really hope that after 3-4 years, serial missiles will go to pieces. It is clear that there is still a lot of work, but this is a project that needs to be thrown away.
  4. +2
    3 March 2018 07: 37
    Thanks for the first most relevant article on this topic. It turns out a successful throw test passed, well then there is a start.
  5. +3
    3 March 2018 09: 00
    From throwing to the adoption takes 4-5 years. If everything is fine, and not like with a Mace. And the Voivode must be removed / extended this year. So - why did Putin show terrible cartoons ....
    1. 0
      4 March 2018 18: 49
      The cartoons showed about the caliber, at first it was just a cartoon talking, then they said one thing, then they remembered the contract ...
      1. +2
        4 March 2018 19: 58
        I do not know if cartoons about Tomahawks were shot in the USA, but they riveted this stuff so much that the remnants of our military-industrial complex could not even dream of.
  6. +7
    3 March 2018 09: 46
    Quote: groks
    From throwing to the adoption takes 4-5 years. If everything is fine, and not like with a Mace. And the Voivode must be removed / extended this year. So - why did Putin show terrible cartoons ....

    And they’re already shooting. Including and last year. See the START data exchange in 2017. On July 1, we had deployed 523 units and 1765 goals, on October 1 - 501 and 1561. The difference in 20 missiles and 200 BG indicates the removal of 20 Voyevoda missiles from service.
    1. 0
      3 March 2018 10: 48
      It could have been not the Voivode, but for example the R-29 sea missiles, which is more likely, well, or the UR-100UTTKh.
      1. +2
        3 March 2018 11: 29
        Quote: Rebus
        for example, R-29 sea missiles, which is more likely, well, or UR-100UTTX.

        Which of them carries 10 warheads?
        1. 0
          3 March 2018 12: 17
          R-29RM, for example.
          1. 0
            3 March 2018 12: 47
            Quote: Rebus
            R-29RM, for example

            That would be strange, but theoretically possible.
    2. +3
      3 March 2018 11: 32
      And even new Yars are released less than Topol.
      Although each Yars, I believe, is ten times cheaper than Sarmat.
      How many Sarmatians will pull the budget and facilities of the plants?
      1. +6
        3 March 2018 12: 17
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And even new Yars are released less than Topol.
        Although each Yars, I believe, is ten times cheaper than Sarmat.
        How many Sarmatians will pull the budget and facilities of the plants?

        And they don’t need a lot - there are not many weapons with ultimatally high characteristics, but it doesn’t matter - it either exists (throw ABM) or not (do not throw out yet) Yes
        1. +1
          3 March 2018 12: 47
          Quote: 11 black
          it or is (throw ABM)

          Finish missile defense.
          1. +1
            4 March 2018 18: 44
            While the missile defense system, capable of intercepting ICBMs of the current generation, will be finished, the following will appear. Or are technologies developed only by your favorite Americans?
      2. +4
        3 March 2018 16: 02
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And even new Yars are released less than Topol.
        Although each Yars, I believe, is ten times cheaper than Sarmat.
        How many Sarmatians will pull the budget and facilities of the plants?

        I liked the last question, especially regarding the capabilities and capacities of the plant. laughing
      3. 0
        3 March 2018 17: 01
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And even new Yars are released less than Topol.
        Although each Yars, I believe, is ten times cheaper than Sarmat.
        How many Sarmatians will pull the budget and facilities of the plants?

        Poplar is one-piece, and Yars has 4 to 6 BG, so one Yars will replace 2-3 Poplars
      4. +2
        3 March 2018 21: 43
        voyaka uh
        How many Sarmatians will pull the budget and facilities of the plants?
        How much is needed, so much will be hi
      5. 0
        4 March 2018 18: 51
        A lot is not necessary, an unacceptable damage is needed
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    4. +4
      3 March 2018 13: 05
      Quote: Old26
      See the START data exchange in 2017. On July 1, we had deployed 523 units and 1765 goals, on October 1 - 501 and 1561. The difference in 20 missiles and 200 BG indicates the removal of 20 Voyevoda missiles from service.


      As of February 5, 2018, our total potential is: 527 units for deployed ICBMs, deployed SLBMs and deployed heavy bombers

      1444 units for warheads on deployed ICBMs, warheads on deployed SLBMs and nuclear warheads counted for deployed heavy bombers "

      779 units for deployed and non-deployed launchers of ICBMs, deployed and non-deployed launchers of SLBMs, deployed and non-deployed heavy bombers
  7. +5
    3 March 2018 11: 27
    Sarmat is apparently the only real new weapon of all that is listed in the speech.
    Due to its enormous cost, several will make them and stop.
    But since his threat to the United States is great, his role: the psychological deterrence factor - Sarmat will fulfill.
    1. +2
      3 March 2018 12: 16
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Due to its enormous cost, several will make them and stop.

      And what should be disastrously expensive there?
      1. +2
        3 March 2018 22: 38
        sabotage hi
        And what should be disastrously expensive there?
        Essentially nothing. Let’s leave the Israelis with the thought that they’re still unlucky in life. Choose a little red-hot hell. They have summer ahead. God save us in those parts. Better with us. And in winter we have beauties in general !!!
    2. +1
      3 March 2018 13: 16
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Sarmat is apparently the only real new weapon of all that is listed in the speech.

      Invisible laughing
      Gagarin at the time, too, many, to say the least, surprised - so do not promise ...
  8. +3
    3 March 2018 11: 46
    Quote: Rebus
    It could have been not the Voivode, but for example the R-29 sea missiles, which is more likely, well, or the UR-100UTTKh.

    What R-29 missiles are taken out of service? Moreover, not one of the boats has been decommissioned? The second one. Which of the sea missiles has 10 warheads?
    As for the UR-100N UTTH, the number of BGs on them is 6. As of 1.1.2017, they unfortunately were already listed among the non-deployed ones. So here, alas, it doesn’t work

    Quote: voyaka uh
    How many Sarmatians will pull the budget and facilities of the plants?

    it's not primarily about the budget, you can move something there, buy something in 2019 or 2020. The question is primarily about factories. Votkinskiy on average releases about fifty strategic missiles a year, of which almost half are ICBMs. How much will produce Krasnoyarsk - not yet known

    Quote: voyaka uh
    Sarmat is apparently the only real new weapon of all that is listed in the speech.
    Due to its enormous cost, several will make them and stop.
    But since his threat to the United States is great, his role: the psychological deterrence factor - Sarmat will fulfill.

    Most likely you are wrong. They will do according to the number of mines that are available and into which, after modernization thereof, you can “shove” the new Sarmatians. That is, again, within fifty. Which is quite enough ...
    1. +4
      3 March 2018 13: 55
      Quote: Old26
      As for the UR-100N UTTH, the number of BGs on them is 6. As of 1.1.2017, they unfortunately were already listed among the non-deployed ones.

      In Tatishchevo, at this moment 30PU we multiply by 6 goals and get 180 warheads. and there is 60 Poplar-M one-piece, feel the difference. It’s good that at least 4 heads will be replaced by Yars M, 240 plus 120 = 360. In Kozelsk, a hundred have been removed a long time ago, now there are 20 Yars 80 warheads.
      Add 46 Governors in Dombar and Uzhur with 10 goals = 460. Thus, today there are 156 silo-based launchers with 780 warheads. In the future, in order not to violate the framework of strategic offensive arms and at the same time to renew the Republic of Kazakhstan, approximately 50 Sarmat are needed to replace Voivode 25 YaRS m to replace one hundred square meters and 15 to replace Topol-M. This results in 90 silo-based launchers. Yes, I forgot about Kozelsk, I don’t know how many regiments there are planned and what composition, but about 50 Yars can be added, in total 140 OS missiles
      The PGRK was left to replace 56 Topol, a total of at least 196 missiles needed before the Strategic Missile Forces were almost completely upgraded. Plus Rubezh and, possibly, in the future, a little BZHRK. So there is a lot of work for our capacities cut down in comparison with the Union.
  9. +2
    3 March 2018 12: 24
    Quote: 11 black
    Quote: mvg
    Where did you get so many puppy squeals? From the previous article, I realized that it was already flying. And then the “carcass” on the powder keg was planted and rejoiced. Remember how hard the Mace "took off." And even the fact that it is liquid .... still 3-4 of the year, while flying.
    This is to Sith ...

    The Institute of Thermal Engineering and Makeeva GRC are completely different organizations, suffice it to say that the GREC developed Sineva, and they have plenty of experience in the field of liquid ICBMs ... there is reason for optimism (pah pah pah) Yes

    At the GRC, here you are right, there is plenty of experience in the development of liquid rockets. But in the field of development LIGHT liquid rockets. GRC in its entire history NEVER I didn’t make rockets that are 4 times heavier than the Sineva. They simply do not have experience in developing heavy missiles of this class. In some ways, of course, the Chelomeevsk Design Bureau helps her, but they simply do not have experience in creating such an ICBM of such a mass (about 150-160 tons). And this experience will have to be gained by the GRC. so for six months or a year, these missiles will not be adopted. More realistic is the statement of Karakaev that the term for entering the Sarmat’s armament is 2019-2020.
    A lot of work to be done. In particular, the work on adapting this block of the Avangard to Sarmat. Since, apparently, the Makeyevtsy have not moved away from their signature chip - the pulling stage of breeding.
    Well, the statements that the “Sarmat” in general will be able to carry 10 warheads or 24 “maneuvering in general beyond the reasonable. Is this with the dimensions of the“ Sarmatian ”?
    1. +1
      3 March 2018 13: 27
      Quote: Old26
      In some ways, of course, the Chelomeevka Design Bureau helps her, but they simply do not have experience in creating such an ICBM of such a mass (of the order of 150-160 tons). And this experience will have to be gained by the GRC. so for six months or a year, these missiles will not be adopted. More realistic is the statement by Karakaev that the term for entering the Sarmat’s armament is 2019-2020.

      He is helped by the "State Rocket Center" of a masculine kind! Yes
      You are right that you didn’t design rockets of such a mass, but the P-39 also weighed a lot (more than 90 tons), which doesn’t make it easy to call it ... by the time it was put into service, it probably is.
      By the number of blocks it is impossible to say anything on it - this can only be known in the GRC itself, and even then not all ...
      Quote: Old26
      Well, only d.urak will throw missile defense. In any case, if there is such a weapon against them - the only option is to deploy additional PR for missile defense and not with the "Standards", which can only intercept the ballistic missile defense, but with the same GBI, for example. Yes, expensive, I would say monstrously expensive, but with a military budget of 700 billions, you can afford to take such a risk. And then the one whose economy is stronger will win. Who will suffer financial collapse before. Missile defense, in principle, has never been sharpened by the interception of a mass raid. But it will be able to intercept part of the enemy’s missiles, minimizing damage. It all depends on the outfit of forces on each side.

      Even the theoretical ability of the GBI to intercept a maneuvering target is doubtful; you need to bring the interceptor to the point of meeting with the missile. If the rocket is actively maneuvering, then there will be many possible meeting points.
  10. +2
    3 March 2018 12: 38
    Quote: 11 black
    it is either there (throw ABM) or not (do not throw it away yet)

    Well, only d.urak will throw missile defense. In any case, if there is such a weapon against them - the only option is to deploy additional PR for missile defense and not with the "Standards", which can only intercept the ballistic missile defense, but with the same GBI, for example. Yes, expensive, I would say monstrously expensive, but with a military budget of 700 billions, you can afford to take such a risk. And then the one whose economy is stronger will win. Who will suffer financial collapse before. Missile defense, in principle, has never been sharpened by the interception of a mass raid. But it will be able to intercept part of the enemy’s missiles, minimizing damage. It all depends on the outfit of forces on each side.
    1. +4
      3 March 2018 13: 18
      Quote: Old26
      Yes, expensive, I would say monstrously expensive, but with a military budget of 700 billion, you can afford to take such a risk

      This is monstrously expensive, as the best people of the country from Boeing, LM and Northropp (Orbital) do it. If what is happening will encourage the Americans to put things in order in their military budget (oh, dreams), then a thousand interceptors in the financial sense are nothing special. The much more powerful Vega launch vehicle costs a little over 20M without services. In terms of technology, the interceptor also does not represent anything beyond itself, except perhaps the homing system is comparable to any maneuvering upper stage. The controls on the ground have already been created; 20 interceptors or 200 are not much different.

      In the modern world, it is the civil industry that is the model for the military, and not vice versa. And in the technological, and especially in the economic aspects.
  11. +1
    3 March 2018 13: 17
    Quote: Ascetic
    Quote: Old26
    See the START data exchange in 2017. On July 1, we had deployed 523 units and 1765 goals, on October 1 - 501 and 1561. The difference in 20 missiles and 200 BG indicates the removal of 20 Voyevoda missiles from service.


    As of February 5, 2018, our total potential is: 527 units for deployed ICBMs, deployed SLBMs and deployed heavy bombers

    1444 units for warheads on deployed ICBMs, warheads on deployed SLBMs and nuclear warheads counted for deployed heavy bombers "

    779 units for deployed and non-deployed launchers of ICBMs, deployed and non-deployed launchers of SLBMs, deployed and non-deployed heavy bombers

    Yes, at the beginning of February it is. We have respectively 527 deployed, 779 non-deployed and 1444 charges.
    The United States has 652 deployed, 800 non-deployed, and 1393 charges, respectively. But I spoke of a spasmodic reduction between July 1 and October 1
  12. 0
    3 March 2018 14: 57
    Quote: Cherry Nine
    The controls on the ground have already been created; 20 interceptors or 200 are not much different.

    Well, the difference is ... In the number of intercepted targets
  13. +1
    3 March 2018 15: 07
    Quote: 11 black
    You are right that you didn’t design rockets of such a mass, but the P-39 also weighed a lot (more than 90 tons), which doesn’t make it easy to call it ... by the time it was put into service, it probably is.
    By the number of blocks it is impossible to say anything on it - this can only be known in the GRC itself, and even then not all ...


    Well, in principle, P-39 does not belong to the category of heavy ones according to the classification. Although over weighed a lot. But in any case, one and a half times less than the “Sarmat”
    Of course, we cannot know how many goals we have with 100% probability, but knowing certain restrictions that we and our opponents observe (namely, a dozen on ICBMs and 14 on SLBMs), you can imagine ...

    A vague suspicion that nevertheless the breeding stage was designed by the State Regional Center. And this means that, taking into account all their achievements, the dilution engine inside the toroidal ring. And the heads look down. In addition, it is unlikely that it will be possible to place more than 10 engines on a dilution step with a diameter of about 2,5 meters.
    Winged (controlled), by definition, should be larger in size than ordinary, uncontrollable, which means that placing them there in an amount of 24, where they have seats for 10 blocks, is very, very unlikely. I would have believed more if they said 10 NUBB or 4 managed. That would be more real.
  14. +1
    3 March 2018 15: 17
    Quote: 11 black
    Even the theoretical ability of the GBI to intercept a maneuvering target is doubtful; you need to bring the interceptor to the point of meeting with the missile. If the rocket is actively maneuvering, then there will be many possible meeting points.

    In principle, you are right about the probability of intercepting maneuvering targets, but the thing is that the parameters of the interception zones of this missile are such that it reaches the place where the blocks still do not maneuver. A range of 5000 km and a reach of 2000-2500 km in height are still not the parameters for the interception of the TCAAD or the "Standard"
  15. +3
    3 March 2018 17: 34
    Quote: Ascetic
    Quote: Old26
    As for the UR-100N UTTH, the number of BGs on them is 6. As of 1.1.2017, they unfortunately were already listed among the non-deployed ones.

    In Tatishchevo, at this moment 30PU we multiply by 6 goals and get 180 warheads. and there is 60 Poplar-M one-piece, feel the difference. It’s good that at least 4 heads will be replaced by Yars M, 240 plus 120 = 360. In Kozelsk, a hundred have been removed a long time ago, now there are 20 Yars 80 warheads.
    Add 46 Governors in Dombar and Uzhur with 10 goals = 460. Thus, today there are 156 silo-based launchers with 780 warheads. In the future, in order not to violate the framework of strategic offensive arms and at the same time to renew the Republic of Kazakhstan, approximately 50 Sarmat are needed to replace Voivode 25 YaRS m to replace one hundred square meters and 15 to replace Topol-M. This results in 90 silo-based launchers. Yes, I forgot about Kozelsk, I don’t know how many regiments there are planned and what composition, but about 50 Yars can be added, in total 140 OS missiles
    The PGRK was left to replace 56 Topol, a total of at least 196 missiles needed before the Strategic Missile Forces were almost completely upgraded. Plus Rubezh and, possibly, in the future, a little BZHRK. So there is a lot of work for our capacities cut down in comparison with the Union.
    Kamrad!
    I do not quite understand what your post is about. My remark about the number of warheads on the UR-100N UTTH and the number of blocks related to the phrase of my opponent that “minus 200” warheads and “minus 20 carriers” is a situation when exactly 20 R-36M2 were shot and no other options.

    In Tatishchevo, indeed, 30 silos remained from under the UR-100N UTTH, no one denies this, but the count of deployed carriers and blocks as of January 1, 2017 suggests that although the carriers are in the mines, the combat units seem to have been removed from them. Otherwise, the number of BBs would be a significant excess
    In Tatishchevo, so far no one is replacing Topol-M with Yars-M, as far as is known. Work is underway only in Kozelsk. I do not know if the work in the PR of the second regiment has ended, but in 2018 at least they plan to work on the third regiment
    In Dombark and Uzhur, I’m afraid there’s no longer 46, but only 26. From July 1 to October 1, the number of carriers decreased from 523 to 501, and charges from 1745 to 1561. Taking into account the arming of a number of Yars systems and the removal from service “Topol” of another option except for removing from service 20 “Governor” with 200 charges - I do not see another option

    Replacing the "hundred" to "Yars" will raise the number of deployed media to the desired level. For a complete upgrade of the entire arsenal of ICBMs, half a dozen Sarmatians will be needed. The number of Yarsev and Frontiers is now difficult to calculate. But up to the ceiling of 700 carriers, 180 more carriers will need to be deployed (more precisely 179)
    I’ve not seen a “breakdown” at the beginning of 2018 by type. But the problem of the carrier-charge ratio in the framework of START-3 has been resolved. Now, unlike previous treaties, the scheme for counting blocks on missiles is not to the maximum, but in fact
    1. +1
      3 March 2018 19: 07
      You are right, the author, having written:
      According to known data, the R-36M and R-36M2 heavy-class missiles remain in service with only two strategic missile forces, and their total number does not exceed fifty. Also, dozens of heavy UR-100UTTKhs continue to serve., a bit wrong. The governor was exactly 26, and the Hundreds have long been without goals.
  16. +16
    3 March 2018 20: 25
    One warrior is cutting
  17. +3
    3 March 2018 23: 09
    Unlike Sarmat, the Yu-71 (guided warhead) and Avangard (planning warhead) are unnecessary in their characteristics for a guaranteed breakthrough of the US missile defense (to achieve the latter, several high-altitude explosions of leading nuclear charges are enough to blind the radar).

    Most likely, both Yu-71 and Avangard are the means of hybrid warfare - to show the whole world the degree of excess of Russian technologies over American ones.
  18. +1
    5 March 2018 04: 20
    The essence of the panic of the West is that it will now be very difficult to explain to their taxpayers why they need systems that do not protect for anything. That all their strength is only in words. Actually, the president did not say anything new. Sarmat will not be soon and this is not so important. As Russia has the presence of hypersonic weapons. By the way, we have had it in iron for quite some time, since the mid-80s and specialists in the west it’s very well known. Yes, and you can dig up information on this topic in the network, there would be a desire.
  19. 0
    April 20 2022 16: 32
    Today, April 20, 2022, it was successfully launched. All BBs arrived in a given area of ​​the Kura training ground! Hooray ! hi drinks

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