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Der Spiegel claims that he knows the details of the death of Russians in Deir ez-Zor

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Another publication about the fight with the participation of Russian citizens who were not representatives of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation appeared in the foreign media. Recall that we are talking about the fight, which foreign publications previously managed to christen "disastrous for hundreds of Russians." In the wake of the fakes, even such materials appeared, in which the death of almost 750 “Wagner’s men” was announced.


The material, which states that "the details of the battle in the valley of the Euphrates have become known," now publishes the German magazine Der Spiegel. The German edition writes that the citizens of the Russian Federation did not take part in the clashes and became accidental victims.

Der Spiegel:
Two pro-government detachments took part in the clashes, in which there were citizens not only of Syria, but also of Iran, Afghanistan and Iraq. There were no Russians in these units. The fighting began at the village of Tabia (Conoco oil fields). Not far from this locality was a group of Russian citizens.

Der Spiegel claims that he knows the details of the death of Russians in Deir ez-Zor


The article states that the Russians came under fire.

From the article:
According to a hospital employee in Deir ez-Zor, about ten bodies of mercenaries were delivered to the medical facility. It turned out that it was the Russians. Then the bodies were sent to the city of Kamyshly.


In a German magazine, it is claimed that in all during the shelling under Tabia, "before the Russians 20" died.

Recall that earlier the Foreign Ministry confirmed the information about the death of "four or five citizens of Russia" in the province of Deir ez-Zor, noting that they were not part of the structure of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 2 March 2018 14: 08
    +15
    There was a story there ... He stole the roofing felts ... The roofing felts were stolen from him ... The number of victims was from four to seven hundred ... then PMCs ... then civilians ... If only they were lying in harmony, otherwise someone forest, who is for firewood ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 2 March 2018 14: 11
      +6
      The coalition defeated the convoy .... And they say that soldiers from PMCs died there. The quantity is unknown.
    2. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 2 March 2018 14: 24
      +2
      In the media it is possible to buy third-party article printing. So they paid to print the rest with desa. And now it can be argued that this publication has conducted an investigation and claims. The old reception on des, -similar to here shines through ......
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 2 March 2018 15: 04
      +8
      Quote: Vard
      There was some kind of story.

      They asked the Armenian radio: "Is it true that Gogechkoria won 200 thousands in a casino?"
      "True" - the Armenian radio answers. - "Not only Gogechkoria, but Andranyan, and not 200 of thousands, but only 20. And he did not win, but lost, And not at the casino, but at the preference."
    4. papas-57
      papas-57 2 March 2018 20: 19
      +4
      Coalition laundering began. They are white and fluffy, and what happened it is not their fault. It was just by accident that coalition aviation and the stray B-52 flew nearby. Well, quite by accident.
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 2 March 2018 14: 09
    +10
    ... Der Spiegel claims that he knows the details of the deaths of Russians in Deir ez-Zor ...

    Dug the boogers.
    They would have written that the geldings are outraged - the elections in Russia are on the nose, but I am beginning to turn down.
    Nobody knows anything, but nemchura found out.
    ... Near this settlement there was a group of Russian citizens ...

    And then, already a statement based on the words "hospital employee" about the dead Russians, "mercenaries":
    ... According to an employee of the hospital in Deir ez-Zor, about ten bodies of mercenaries were delivered to the medical facility. It turned out that these are Russians ...

    Now they will start relishing, retyping from each other and referring to each other.
    1. penal battalion
      penal battalion 2 March 2018 14: 23
      +7
      The warriors would have been silent .....
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 2 March 2018 14: 33
        +4
        love
        Quote: Penalty
        The warriors would have been silent ...

        So he does not keep silent - rushing bending from all the technological holes. negative
      2. iouris
        iouris 2 March 2018 14: 40
        +10
        German hockey players cry in the finals of the Olympic Games, because they really could defeat the Russians, but they were just out of luck. This is another indicator of the humiliation of Soviet hockey. In general, Nazism defeated Russia-USSR, which was defeated, but the Russian team was not at this Olympics.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 2 March 2018 14: 54
          +17
          Quote: iouris
          ... German hockey players cry in the finals of the Olympic Games, because they really could defeat the Russians, but they were just out of luck. This is another indicator of the humiliation of Soviet hockey. In general, Nazism defeated Russia-USSR, which was defeated, but the Russian team at this Olympics was not ...

          My brain does not keep up with the flight of your imagination.
          You sympathize with the Germans, remember Soviet hockey or gloat about some kind of “defeat” of the USSR.
          Who defeated whom?
          I earnestly ask, put your thoughts in a digestible version. Maybe I didn’t see something between the lines?
      3. rumpeljschtizhen
        rumpeljschtizhen 2 March 2018 16: 27
        +3
        To this nonsense ... refers to the article ???? (he does not apply to sports)
    2. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 2 March 2018 14: 37
      +8
      Andrey, salute! hi
      Quote: Andrey K
      Now they will start relishing, retyping from each other and referring to each other.

      My colleague Lelek threw an interesting info here today:
      Quote: Lelek


      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 2 March 2018 14: 44
        +7
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        ... I’m here today, my colleague Lelek threw off an interesting info ...

        Be healthy Pash hi
        Ours, too, as they whistle - whistle fellow
        Information warming the soul. If true - then the earth is glassy to them negative
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 2 March 2018 16: 48
          0
          There are fewer dushmans than killed "mercenary instructors" :-)
          But more is better than less.
          Again, live with wolves ... If they write 700 Wagnerites, then we need to write about 100500 striped.
          "Forks" can then be found, but the sediment will remain
      2. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 2 March 2018 19: 38
        0
        at first it was about 100 amersk PMCs in gute
        and "annihilated" their SU-57 (T-50)
        why they supposedly flew there to "take revenge", and since they "took revenge", the question naturally arises for whom ? and here again they slip a topic about 100500 thousand of our PMCs.
        Foreign Ministry officially confirmed death
        4 or 5 people.
    3. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 2 March 2018 16: 29
      +4
      Quote: Andrey K
      retyping each other and referring to each other.

      fiction, if not strange - is in demand request harry rubbed - example laughing
    4. You Vlad
      You Vlad 2 March 2018 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: Andrey K
      Now they will start relishing, retyping from each other and referring to each other.

      The main thing has already been done, the fake has been distributed on the network, people have used it! But the truth is, it’s not true, it doesn’t matter! recourse
  3. loki565
    loki565 2 March 2018 14: 11
    +3
    PMCs do not have air defense in this is the main problem
  4. Gray brother
    Gray brother 2 March 2018 14: 11
    +4
    Spiegel sold out to Putin. Where is the Stasi looking?
    1. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 2 March 2018 15: 19
      +1
      The Stasi helps Putin, because this is the "daughter" of the KGB ..... from a distant GDR
  5. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 2 March 2018 14: 15
    +6
    Big name for details. The details themselves are zero point ten. The source of information is OBS (one grandmother said). In the firebox!
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 March 2018 14: 22
      +2
      Quote: Alex-a832
      In the furnace!

      Really. Everyone writes that 300/500/700 Russians died, and the corrupt Spiegel 20 wrote.
      This is wrong, but well - who will give the first one thousand !!!?
      1. Alex-a832
        Alex-a832 2 March 2018 17: 46
        +2
        The right digit is 100500 ... the right bolts on the brethren. I propose to focus on the information of the Russian Foreign Ministry. There will be new figures from our official sources - we will focus on them.
        The rest from the OBS - in the furnace!
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 2 March 2018 17: 51
          0
          Quote: Alex-a832
          There will be new figures from our official sources - we will focus on them.

          Official sources will never give any figures on Russian citizens present in Syria unofficially.
          1. Alex-a832
            Alex-a832 2 March 2018 18: 01
            +3
            So it should be. Kompndir said: "Unloading luminium, and who is not agreed ...". The question of trust in our foreign policy. I still trust.
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 2 March 2018 18: 08
              0
              Quote: Alex-a832
              So it should be. Compndir said

              No "commander said," just the Syrian or Russian government or company enters into a contract with a company with the appropriate personnel and all their relationships proceed exclusively within the framework of the contract.
              Therefore, all statistics on losses remains inside the company, it does not concern the employer.
              1. Alex-a832
                Alex-a832 2 March 2018 19: 39
                +2
                We still have state control over PMCs. In addition, this is a zone of political struggle where the appearance of our people at the wrong time at the wrong place can be the reason for political dives with mattresses and unnecessary conflicts with temporary partners such as the Turks. Verified information is issued to the public. Not PMCs steers this (I'm only talking about our PMCs).
  6. steelmaker
    steelmaker 2 March 2018 14: 20
    0
    According to open information that I heard from various sources, 7 people died. then they increased to 14. But there was no information that it was shelling. They talked about the dead.
  7. svp67
    svp67 2 March 2018 14: 23
    +2
    According to an employee of the hospital in Deir ez-Zor, about ten bodies of mercenaries were delivered to the medical facility. It turned out that these are Russians.
    Wait, only recently the most “truthful” Western mass media just shouted about HUNDREDS of the dead Russians, and so loudly as we did, some unstable ones started shouting that “everything was lost” .... Here is this message of “Der Spiegel”, this Well, it’s just “zrada” somehow ... I’ve “ruined” it.
    1. IGOR GORDEEV
      IGOR GORDEEV 2 March 2018 14: 37
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      ... so loudly as with us, some unstable began to shout that "everything was lost" ....

      I would like to listen to these comrades now, what they will say.
      1. svp67
        svp67 2 March 2018 14: 43
        +2
        Quote: IGOR GORDEEV
        I would like to listen to these comrades now, what they will say.

        They will not say anything because they are "ashamed"
  8. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 2 March 2018 14: 45
    +2
    When our authorities say something, this information should be divided or multiplied by 2. Zakharova spoke of 5 dead - that means there are 10. So Spiegel, speaking of 10 dead - is right.
    The latest news in the media: the Skynewsarabia channel reports that another Su-25 was shot down in Syria, unfortunately.
    It seems that no conclusions have been drawn after the previous tragedy. am
    1. seal78
      seal78 2 March 2018 15: 01
      +2
      When our authorities say something, this information must be divided or multiplied by 2.

      So. By the way, whose is yours?
      Zakharova spoke of 5 dead - which means there are 10 of them.
      Stop. You yourself write "divide or multiply" above. Why in this case, multiply, but not divide?
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 2 March 2018 17: 09
        +1
        Quote: seal78
        Stop. You yourself write "divide or multiply" above. Why in this case, multiply, but not divide?

        So if you divide, so throw less on the fan yes These guys will not miss their ..
      2. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 2 March 2018 17: 11
        +3
        Quote: seal78
        Why in this case, multiply, but not divide?

        Because all the unpleasant facts our authorities are trying to play down or even shut up.
        1. Andrey K
          Andrey K 2 March 2018 17: 39
          +8
          Quote: 16112014nk
          ... Because all the unpleasant facts our authorities are trying to play down or even shut up ...

          With what fright, the truth printed by the Germans for you, and what is being said by our legitimate authority, is being questioned?
        2. seal78
          seal78 3 March 2018 07: 25
          0
          That is, in which case to divide, and in which to multiply, do you personally decide?
    2. Andrey K
      Andrey K 2 March 2018 17: 52
      +8
      Quote: 16112014nk
      ... When our authorities say something, this information should be divided or multiplied by 2. Zakharova spoke of 5 dead - that means there are 10. So Spiegel, speaking of 10 dead - is right.
      The latest news in the media: the Skynewsarabia channel reports that another Su-25 was shot down in Syria, unfortunately.
      It seems that no conclusions have been drawn after the previous tragedy. am...

      There is only one conclusion - you can’t stop with dancing on the bones.
      Kindly reference to the "news" distributed by you.
      You don’t lie, do you?
  9. Alexex
    Alexex 2 March 2018 14: 54
    +3
    Quote: Penalty
    The warriors would have been silent .....

    no need to drag hockey ...
    1. LASVEGAS
      LASVEGAS 2 March 2018 17: 18
      0
      In reality, the Germans were close to victory. Ours pulled out. Thanks for the interesting game.
  10. unignm
    unignm 2 March 2018 17: 04
    0
    and that this nonsense is still relevant or the other is not and you need to lie
  11. LASVEGAS
    LASVEGAS 2 March 2018 17: 15
    0
    Losses of enemies multiply by TWO everything - and proto-Ukrainians, and Syrians, and Koreans, and the DNI and all-all-all :)
    Their losses are divided into THREE, also all-all :)
    Advocacy she is :)
  12. Snail N9
    Snail N9 2 March 2018 18: 15
    +2
    “Der Spiegel” turns out to know everything, .... but from the Russian officials the same “song” - “ichtamnet”. By the way, did you read an article from Spiegel? The Spiegel version of those events is fundamentally different from what was told in the Russian media.
  13. iaroslav.mudryi
    iaroslav.mudryi 2 March 2018 18: 45
    +1
    [/ quote] A combined detachment of Syrian militias (a set of local tribes), the Syrian special forces "ISIS Hunters" (international composition of fighters) and Russian "private traders" who could be part of the aforementioned unit or be in a separate combat group fell under fire. It is hardly possible to reliably confirm that PMC employees belong to the "Wagner detachment". The total losses, calculated according to indirect sources, are close to the figures declared by the Americans in “about 100 killed”: at least 60 local, 20 “hunters” and five citizens of the Russian Federation (the Russian Foreign Ministry officially recognized our losses).
    source: http://expert.ru/expert/2018/08/amerikantsev-budu
    t-davit /? utm_referrer = https% 3A% 2F% 2Fzen.yandex.co
    m
    “This is for you guys!”: Russian VKS killed American PMC mercenaries before 2000 in a week
    source: http://maxpark.com/community/4109/content/6227615
    [Quote]
    Peace enforcement: SU-57 defeats mercenaries from the US PMC and helps Americans become more accommodating at the UN
    source: http://x-true.info/66987-prinuzhdenie-k-miru-su-5
    7-razgromil-naemnikov-iz-amerikanskoy-chvk-i-pomo
    g-amerikancam-stat-sgovorchivey-v-oon.html
  14. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 2 March 2018 20: 13
    +1
    Quote: 16112014nk
    When our authorities say something, this information should be divided or multiplied by 2. Zakharova spoke of 5 dead - that means there are 10. So Spiegel, speaking of 10 dead - is right.
    The latest news in the media: the Skynewsarabia channel reports that another Su-25 was shot down in Syria, unfortunately.
    It seems that no conclusions have been drawn after the previous tragedy. am


    And they also write that 2000 thousands of amers died from one blow of SU-57. Let's discuss this.
    1. tomket
      tomket 3 March 2018 00: 35
      +2
      Quote: Xscorpion
      And they also write that 2000 thousands of amers died from one blow of SU-57. Let's discuss this.

      There is already a transcript of a phone call from a Black Water mercenary to the Pentagon: "Oh mine gat !!!! Oh mine gat !!! Oh mine gat !!!!! Its New Vietnam !!! Its Hell !!! Us hit hellish Satan !!!! Help mi pliz !!!! "
    2. karish
      karish 3 March 2018 00: 40
      0
      Quote: Xscorpion
      Quote: 16112014nk
      When our authorities say something, this information should be divided or multiplied by 2. Zakharova spoke of 5 dead - that means there are 10. So Spiegel, speaking of 10 dead - is right.
      The latest news in the media: the Skynewsarabia channel reports that another Su-25 was shot down in Syria, unfortunately.
      It seems that no conclusions have been drawn after the previous tragedy. am


      And they also write that 2000 thousands of amers died from one blow of SU-57. Let's discuss this.

      moreover, that 5 Russians and 2000 amers died - the same resource writes. laughing
      I believe.
  15. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 March 2018 03: 48
    0
    Liberasty, as always, lied as eyewitnesses - with snot, crocodile tears and screams.
  16. Captain45
    Captain45 3 March 2018 11: 30
    0
    Note the rubbish who posted is not very smart. If you post, so the whole, and not pull the slander. Accordingly, and comments. On the Empire website, yesterday I read a translation of an article from Spiegel. Nothing to do with the above. In general, as they say, Google will help you all.
  17. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 3 March 2018 15: 59
    0
    Quote: Xscorpion
    And they also write that 2000 thousand amers died from one blow of the SU-57

    and they wrote that a hundred American and Jewish generals were taken prisoner in Aleppo, they even called their names. And where are they in the basements of the KGB?