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The most peaceful ship

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This ship is made of peace and love. Thank fate for the fact that we will never see the full functionality of the “Zamvolta”, as it was conceived by its creators.

With a dual-band radar, the three grilles of which looked up, the other three continuously scanned the horizon line.

With a full ammunition of missiles for any purpose, including long-range missiles and long-range kinetic inter-atmosphere interceptors.

With six-inch artillery systems capable of watering an endless rain of guided munitions at 100 + km. At gunpoint - the entire infrastructure of the densely populated coast, areas in which one third of the world's population lives.

With a closed loop near air defense, consisting of 57-mm automatic anti-aircraft guns with programmable projectiles.

With the full implementation of the plans of serial construction - 29 destroyers of the new generation on the guard of freedom.

The most peaceful ship


But enough to scoff at not the worst ship. What happened in practice from an ambitious rearmament program fleet?

It turned out, to put it mildly, rather weakly. The “Destroyer of the Future” no longer radiates its former confidence, and its sequestered functionality casts doubt on the very idea of ​​its construction. Despite all the difficulties, the project still attracts the attention of specialists and the public. For various reasons.

No matter what they said about a series of “experimental” ships, to test new technologies, “Zamvolt”, in the first place, remains a combat unit. With a potential exceeding the aggregate potential of fleets of many countries of the world.

80 rocket mines. Few modern ships have such power. You shouldn’t dismiss his large-caliber guns - an unexpected solution breaking the stereotypes of modern warfare (six-inch guns were not put on ships from the 1950-s).

Innovation "Zamvolta", at first glance, seem not obvious. The inhabitants see only the “iron” of an unusual form, without the promised railguns and other futurism. Specialists also do not express much enthusiasm - many elements of the “destroyer of the future” have long been used in practice.

It has long been observed that the silhouette with the collapse of the sides coincides in shape with the “Merrimak”. If the comparison with the battleship is just a curiosity, then other moments can no longer be explained by simple external similarity. One of the main features of Zamvolta, the electric transmission, was first installed on the Russian diesel-electric “Vandal” (1903). Then the scheme was applied on many military and civilian ships, incl. on Lexington-type aircraft carriers and battleships (Tennessee, Colorado). Nowadays, the British destroyers Daring use a similar electric transmission.

On the other hand, one should not underestimate technical progress. Turbogenerators and electric motors of battleships of the First World War could provide the power of the entire 28 ths. Hp A quarter of the possibilities of “Zamvolta”! With incomparable sizes and power density.



And not just a transmission. “Zamvolt” is a real bundle of electrical energy, penetrated by its threads from the keel to the dung. The main innovation in the field of power plant is the flexible management of energy flows. According to the creators, this allows for a few moments to redirect up to 80% of the generated power to a separate group of consumers.

As you might have guessed, this was done with respect to promising electromagnetic guns. Destroyers are unlikely to survive until the emergence of combat-ready "railguns," but the Yankees in the process of working on the "Zamvolt" gained practical experience in creating ship-based electrical systems and automation, operating with capacities of tens of megawatts.

As with any development in critical areas beyond the traditional concepts, such advances can change technology and technology at lower levels. And this is the whole DD-1000 project.

Many of the items presented in fragmented form met in the past. But only in the project “Zamvolt” they became part of a single structure.

For the first time such large-scale measures to reduce visibility were implemented on the ship of the “destroyer” class ship. Angular forms, radio-absorbing coatings, masking of thermal emissions of a power plant, a weakly pronounced wakefield ...

For the first time - complex automation, affecting many aspects that previously no one paid attention. Everything has been automated, including the loading of ammunition, food, spare parts and consumables in preparation for the march. Coupled with the increase in the turnaround time of all mechanisms and systems of the ship, which saved the crew from the need for repairs in the open sea. No workshops, teams of masters and electricians. All maintenance will be performed only in the database - before and after the end of the hike. The crew is reduced in 2-3 times compared with cruisers and destroyers of the previous generation.

For the first time, a multifunctional radar that combines the functions of a surveillance radar, a target illumination radar, a counter-battery radar and an electronic warfare station. Automatic detection of floating mines, targeting fired missiles, electronic intelligence - collecting information in a passive mode.

Fortunately, the radar has a limited detection range. Three other antenna arrays (AN / SPY-4) were never installed on the destroyer (empty area on the ill.)



Mixed rocket gun armament. New launchers (Mk.57), equipped with expelling panels and dispersed around the perimeter of the ship - to localize damage in case of fire and detonation of ammunition in the launch shaft. The maximum launch mass of the missiles was doubled (to 4 tons) - the air defense system Mk.57 was created based on the needs of the near future.

Anthology of problems

"Soldiers climbed to the edge of the parapet, but did not find the enemy ..." In the absence of any equal rival in the coming decades, the US Navy curtailed the program to create the next generation of destroyers.

Due to the fact that the project was in a high stage of readiness, it was decided to build a limited series of three destroyers, i.e. by American standards they didn’t even start building. The next step was to reduce the functionality. If Zamvolts are not a substitute for the entire fleet of destroyers, you can opt out of a number of expensive systems. “The ships of the future” lost three arrays of the general survey radar, - the tasks of the zonal air defense / missile defense were assigned to dozens of other destroyers with the Aegis complex.

Then the question arose: what to do with the “white elephants”? As noted above, this is not just an experiment. “Zamvolty” - full combat units. Due to the lack of long-range radar, they did not fit into the classic AUG. On the other hand, low visibility, a combination of rocket-gun armament and serious defensive capabilities (multi-purpose radar with AFAR + highly maneuverable short-range and medium-range ESSM anti-aircraft missiles) made the Zamvolt suitable for single actions off the coast of the enemy. Fire support units of the army and the ILC, leading the battle in the coastal strip, unexpected rocket-cannon attacks on targets on the coast.

The rejection of high-precision artillery ammunition type LRLAP entailed new changes in the concept.

The 155-mm Advanced Gun Systems (AGS) ship guns were a real disaster. The Americans in an unthinkable way perverted the idea of ​​naval artillery. Although the idea itself was rational grain. Artillery has its own scopein which it is superior in efficiency to any other means. Of the advantages: complete immunity to weather conditions, means of air defense and electronic warfare, high density of fire - the fire of the WWII cruiser was comparable in density to the wing of a modern aircraft carrier, the highest response time, the negligible cost art. ammunition - the usual “blank” in 1000 times cheaper than a cruise missile.


The automatic gun Mk.71 caliber 203 mm - the apotheosis of the development of naval artillery. Tests on the destroyer “Hull“ (1975 g.)


“Zamvolt” has nothing of the kind. Its magnificent guns are mothballed, until an acceptable ammunition that meets the requirements of practicality and economic justification for the application. The concept of AGS was initially erroneous: artillery does not need to compete with missiles, setting records in range and accuracy.

Currently, “Zamvolta” are trying on the role of “fighters” of enemy squadrons in naval combat. According to the calculations of admirals, a smaller visibility will allow them to secretly go to the distance of the start of the missile and the first strike.

Main anti-shipping weapons should become anti-aircraft missile RIM-174 ERAM (SM-6), capable of hitting beyond-the-horizon air and sea targets. According to official data, the launch range for the surface target can reach 268 miles. The relative weakness of the warhead (64 kg) is compensated for by the short reaction time and high speed of the 3,5М in a quasi-ballistic trajectory. The rocket was put into service in 2013 year. The military budget for the 2019 year laid the amount of 89,7 million dollars for the adaptation of “Zamvolt” under the SM-6 missiles.

The use of another promising development from the Zamvolt, the AGM-158C LRASM anti-ship missile with a multispectral seeker, new attack algorithms and a launch range over 300 miles, is out of the question. Tests AGM-158 are in the final stages, according to official data, its adoption is expected in 2018-2019.

The change of priorities only happens on paper. A modern destroyer-class warship with a displacement of> 10 thousand tons is versatile enough to fight any underwater, surface, air and ground enemy.



But the very fact of finding suitable tasks for built ships irrefutably indicates the miscalculations of their creators. The main mistake is the redundancy of the US Navy, operating a fleet of 90 cruisers and destroyers. Against this background, the Yankees, naturally, cannot understand why three more “non-standard” ships were built for this armada.

Cost question

Imagine the situation: “A tomograph worth 500 million rubles was purchased for the hospital of the county town N. from the city budget.” History, for sure, it will end up with the fact that a young doctor will complain to journalists that this is not a tomograph at all, but just an X-ray machine. And he has been unpacked for a year in a room on the first floor. There will be a fuss, fighters against corruption will run in, and there is a considerable chance that shreds will fly from the responsible persons.

Unlike the civilian sector, which is somehow controlled by the public, the scope of military orders is an inexhaustible source for embezzlement and “kickbacks” on a particularly large scale. 10-fold overpricing under a deaf veil of secrecy.

“Zamvolt” is blamed for the fact that it is indecent roads (4,24 billion dollars). And, this supposedly stands out for the worse. Take a look at other modern ships - yes there are “zamvolty” at every turn.

The announced cost of modernization of the Admiral Nakhimov TAKRK - 50 billion rubles, or 1,6 billion dollars. As of 2013, you can be sure that by the end of the work, the cost estimate for long-term construction will increase several times. It is difficult for an ordinary person to imagine such values.

For comparison: the cost of the world's largest cruise ship “Symphony of the Seas” was 1,35 billion dollars (2018). Just do not say that the process of building an 16-deck giant is less complicated and time consuming than building another “zamvolta”. What are some unprecedented measures to ensure the safety of 6000 passengers!


The total length of the 362 m. Displacement - like two nuclear aircraft carriers.


The only “adequate” item of expenditure in the implementation of military shipbuilding projects is scientific research. The total cost of R & D for the project DD-1000 was about 10 billion dollars, while the application of the results is not limited to one Zamvolt. For example, the dual-band radar complex Dual-Band Radar (DBR) is also installed on Ford-class aircraft carriers.

When creating the “destroyer of the future,” a vast reserve was obtained in the field of designing hulls of unusual shape, methods of reducing visibility, automation, creating combat information management systems, radar facilities and weapons of the new generation.

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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 2 March 2018 06: 48
    +6
    In general - money down the drain!
    1. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 3 March 2018 10: 27
      +1
      In general - money down the drain!

      I disagree (!) UVP Mk.57 on 80 cells - it is actually possible to load 240 missiles, 4 on 1.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 3 March 2018 11: 39
        0
        Quote: Romario_Argo
        actually loading 240 rockets, 4 on 1

        Do you mean short-range air defense missiles? What's the point?
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 2 March 2018 06: 49
    +25
    I immediately recognized Oleg !!!! fellow
    Um ... It turns out that the main weapon of Zamvolta is .... instant redistribution of 80% of the ship’s power !!! what Go nuts request
    A ship that carries less PU than the cheap (relatively) “Burki”, whose artillery was mothballed due to the absence of shells, whose number of radars was removed due to economy, whose automation has reached such an extent that there is no one to deal with floods and possible during the campaign or fighting breakdowns ... laughing Moreover, he can act like a cannabis against any Papuans who cannot adequately answer. For adequate opponents will immediately send this creation to Neptune yes
    In short, Oleg, no matter how you defend and do not justify your favorite, the output was a parody of a warship, only at sea. For another parody is trying to fly in the air of the Americans - F-35 laughing
    Best regards hi
    PS Compare the iron with a cruise ship? Oleg, on the liner, at least tourist-enclosed babosy will beat off wassat
    1. Santa Fe
      2 March 2018 08: 03
      +6
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Compare iron with a cruise liner? Oleg, on the liner though tourist nested babosy beat off

      Dear, I sometimes think you do not know how to argue. You make controversial statements yourself and argue with them yourself. I did not compare the liner and the destroyer on the subject of recoupment.

      The purpose of my comparison was to show a catastrophic difference in the cost of building a military and civilian ship.

      Who and how will beat the money - your question is not relevant to the topic. Obviously, in peacetime civilians earn. In war, economic interests protect warships
      Quote: Rurikovich
      It turns out that the main weapon of the Zamvolt is

      80 UVP and high combat stability
      how the composition of weapons will change in a decade - as yet unknown, the groundwork is great
      Quote: Rurikovich
      I eat cheap (relatively) "Burke"

      Cheap Burke costs 2,2 billion belay
      outdated in many respects ship, waste technology built, extremely large series (bulk equipment purchases for dozens of destroyers under construction)
      Quote: Rurikovich
      A ship that carries less PU

      and has other features that you have not noticed that increase its combat value (see my comment below)
      1. BAI
        BAI 2 March 2018 10: 42
        +4
        Military equipment is always more expensive than civilian. Any transistor with the letters "VP" was more expensive than the same transistor without these letters.
        Although, at the expense of technology, I admit that an army UAZ-469 is cheaper than the same UAZ at a car dealership.
      2. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 2 March 2018 17: 50
        +4
        Quote: Santa Fe
        I sometimes think you do not know how to argue.

        I was not going to argue, I just expressed my opinion wink
        Quote: Santa Fe
        80 UVP and high combat stability

        Combat stability in what? If the group is worthless, the price of publicized inconspicuousness is worthless. If alone, then I doubt that THIS will be sent to really fight alone against an adequate enemy.
        80 UVP scattered around the ship - dear, someone once crucified that protecting a pair of compact compartments is easier than those spread across the ship. Or rocket launchers have already become an element of the ship’s defense. I remember ravings about cofferdam "Zamvolta" wink
        Quote: Santa Fe
        how the composition of weapons will change in a decade - as yet unknown, the groundwork is great

        Yes, you can say about any ship with UVP ... Or is it special iron ??
        For the cost of "excellence" you can take 2 with a tail of "Burka" and there will be much more benefit from them. It is not surprising that they are going to continue to build them, unlike the "miracle"
      3. DrVintorez
        DrVintorez 3 March 2018 20: 38
        +2
        Quote: Santa Fe
        Dear, sometimes it seems to me you do not know how to argue.

        Oleg, you yourself do not know how to argue, just what - merge.
        Quote: Santa Fe
        The purpose of my comparison was to show a catastrophic difference in the cost of building a military and civilian ship.

        the purpose of your opus to show the difference between civilian and warship? you invented it right now? no brainer that the goal of your opus is praise to the dead.
        Oleg, when you learn to THINK, and evaluate your epics critically, it will be very good.
        otherwise I remember your “granites” launched from “Moscow” and “on the fingers count the carriers of heavy anti-ship missiles”.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 2 March 2018 13: 45
      +2
      hi Welcome Nikolaitch!
      Quote: Rurikovich
      at the exit there was a parody of a warship

      No, it's not a breed, it's a requiem dedicated to "Zamvoltu" crying
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 2 March 2018 06: 50
    +3
    The article does not address the question of the military stability of this “platform” in a real clash, even if not in the ocean, but where they are going to send it, against the “shore.” How many anti-ship missiles or torpedoes from a mosquito fleet, not to mention more, it’s capable of Withstand that it will act as part of a support group, but what about it? Who is in the know, enlighten!
    1. Santa Fe
      2 March 2018 07: 33
      +8
      Quote: andrewkor
      How many anti-ship missiles or torpedoes from the mosquito fleet, not to mention more, it can withstand.

      According to the American version, it will win, in the opinion of the Russian side, it will lose.
      In conscience - nobody knows


      Being in the same conditions, it should have an advantage over any other destroyer:
      - More chances to fight off - a new radar with AFAR with dozens of target illumination channels
      - More chances to go unnoticed for missiles and torpedoes
      - Greater durability, more chances to maintain combat capability after being hit:


      - large hull width (7,4 extension - against 9-10 in other warships), the presence of a massive solid superstructure → gives the body additional bending / torsion rigidity in all planes.
      - more frequent power set of frames (transverse ribs);
      - unexpectedly high plating strength - the casing is entirely made of HSLA-80 alloy steel (the yield strength of 550MPa, steel of similar grades is used in the manufacture of durable submarine hulls);

      - the presence of cofferdams between the boarding and the wall of rocket launchers - eight-meter vaulted corridor three meters widehaving a ⊿-shaped cross section. Narrow, impenetrable and uninhabited compartments for localization of damage when the outer skin is broken through.


      Taking into account all these factors, purely in theory, Zamvolt in any situation has more combat stability than any other cruiser or destroyer
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 2 March 2018 08: 55
        +1
        Thank you, I didn’t know anything about it. But still, what is the anti-torpedo protection? From the picture you can see that it is weak!
        1. Santa Fe
          2 March 2018 09: 00
          +7
          Quote: andrewkor
          But what kind of anti-torpedo protection?

          None of the modern ships have it, the double bottom of the 2 m high zamolt will not be able to help
          (and indeed, all efforts in the past led to 0 results, the division of the body into compartments by internal impenetrable bulkheads and automation was more important - remote control of valves, the ability of mechanisms to work in flooded (!) compartments

          And of course ship size does matter

          getting into the battleship "North Carolina" 533-mm torpedoes with a charge of 400 kg TNT fell into the nose from the left side (area 45-46 of the frames) in 6 meters under the waterline. Five people died, 20 were injured, a hole about 9,8 and 5,5 meters in height was opened in the board, four PTZ bulkheads were pierced. The explosion also led to a fire in the transshipping compartment of the tower №1, but the rapid flooding of the bow cellars avoided a disaster. But this damage did not affect the ability of the battleship to maintain its place in the ranks and maintain the speed of the squadron. The initial roll in 5,5 ° by the efforts of the emergency batches was quickly corrected within 6 minutes.

          Total - protection struck at times, but 40-th. a ton battleship is like an elephant
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          2. andrewkor
            andrewkor 2 March 2018 09: 49
            0
            Impressed! And also the torn feed from K.Kavkaz. "You, current, nutka." Griboedov, "Woe from Wit."
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 2 March 2018 10: 14
              +2
              Quote: andrewkor
              And also torn feed from the Caucasus.

              Is it with a total displacement of 9000 tons? Given the fact that the total displacement of the SK was 44800 tons, the difference is obvious.
              1. andrewkor
                andrewkor 2 March 2018 10: 53
                +1
                They fought with what happened, then it fell under the distribution! Can the current ones do this ?, Sheffield as an example.
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 2 March 2018 11: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: andrewkor
                  They fought with what it was, then it fell under the distribution

                  Actually, the point is that a large-tonnage ship is harder to sink than four times smaller.
                  1. andrewkor
                    andrewkor 2 March 2018 19: 09
                    0
                    A large ship, a large torpedo, as it is not trite.
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 2 March 2018 19: 52
                      0
                      Quote: andrewkor
                      big torpedo

                      And in order to release this torpedo you need a big ship.
                      1. andrewkor
                        andrewkor 3 March 2018 06: 27
                        0
                        Piranha will be enough wave, but the torpedo is 650 mm., Walk like a walk, shoot, shoot like that!
          3. BAI
            BAI 2 March 2018 10: 56
            +1
            Battleship "Nagato" - passed 2 nuclear tests. In both cases, the distance from the epicenter did not exceed 1.6 km. For an air explosion - hundreds of meters.



            1. andrewkor
              andrewkor 2 March 2018 11: 05
              +1
              I am happy for Nagato and his survivability (not to be confused with fighting efficiency), and for one also for the Japanese shipbuilders. But will the Iron pass such a test? At least a kiloton?
              1. BAI
                BAI 2 March 2018 12: 55
                0
                These are iron problems.
      2. yoyo1984
        yoyo1984 2 March 2018 17: 32
        0
        =) If it’s not difficult to predict (purely hypothetically) the consequences of getting PCR (whatever you like) into the add-in. Thank)
        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 2 March 2018 18: 18
          0
          If you are interested in the opinion of the deletant, then please. For a start, we agree that he will not stand against Russia
        2. andrewkor
          andrewkor 2 March 2018 19: 04
          +1
          I’ll continue from the second line ... well, just without a chance for that. If you don’t take the Papuans at all, they are real opponents of Iran and the DPRK. They have Soviet P-5,6 clones weighing 900 kg warheads. You made the condition that the missile hit add-on, I’ll clarify that it exploded, and it can happen. Yes, it will be blown clean, the ship will go blind and deaf, half the crew will die, the rest will fight for survivability, or rather for survival. This is another optimistic option, most likely "save who maybe "while the second, also hypothetical, hasn’t arrived. Is it fun, right ?! (Che the tablet is buggy, comments disappear, sorry for the indigestible text)
          1. yoyo1984
            yoyo1984 3 March 2018 13: 16
            0
            =) So I am about the same. Just if you believe infe about the "wooden superstructure", then the arguments from the series:
            "- Greater survivability, more likely to maintain combat effectiveness after being hit"
            - it's purely neighing. She (superstructure) wooden-WOODEN CARL (Oleg). What are the odds? what is the survival rate? All his protection is conditional invisibility, but if it has arrived, then everything is “thyme did not cope with peritonitis,” although perhaps the insidious American genius was a specialist here, he thought up such a dirty trick so that the PCR would fly by draft?)
            1. mmaxx
              mmaxx 27 March 2018 09: 29
              0
              For neighbors: this is not an add-on. This is essentially a mast. Made with walls from a three-layer composite construction with balsa aggregate. From an engineering point of view, there is nothing funny at all. The choice of material comes from the tasks.
          2. Abel
            Abel 5 March 2018 20: 54
            0
            With a mass raid. from single, in theory, should fight back
      3. pacific
        pacific 3 March 2018 01: 13
        +3
        the presence of a massive continuous superstructure → gives the body additional bending / torsional rigidity in all planes.

        In fact, ship bending has a decisive influence on bending and torsion, primarily stringers and their connection with frames. Especially in the area of ​​shirstreka, i.e. the upper part of the side adjacent to the main deck. The superstructure can also affect the resistance to bending and torsion, if it is a forecastle or poop. But this is not about Zamvolt, because it is smooth deck.
        A massive superstructure only affects the stability of the ship.
        But what does this have to do with combat performance?
        To seaworthiness, especially in severe stormy conditions - of course. But here the massiveness of the add-in just "plays" in the negative, because lowers metacentric height and, accordingly, stability. Although I read on the same site that the Zamvolt add-on is a wooden frame sheathed in the likeness of Kevlar.
        But actually - thanks to the Americans for ditching a huge amount of money such a trough. A couple of "color revolutions" are fewer; several "armies" of barmalei are not equipped with weapons. Well, how many people were left alive! That's for sure: "Zamvolt" - "dove of peace."
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 March 2018 11: 08
          0
          Dove of peace - until its long-range anti-ship missiles arrive.
          1. yakyu20
            yakyu20 3 March 2018 18: 32
            0
            It seems that they have already clearly said that he does not have long-range PKR with a sufficient warhead (64 kg in total). No and will not, but we and our friends have (Onyx, Caliber, P-270, etc.)
          2. Abel
            Abel 5 March 2018 21: 06
            0
            While these anti-ship missiles fly, the dove, as expected, will ruin everything
        2. mmaxx
          mmaxx 27 March 2018 09: 37
          0
          There is no massive add-on on Zamvolte. Above the bridges is the mast. And easy. Three-layer construction. And balsa is one of the best placeholders for three-layer structures. So there is no need for people here to laugh. This is not a wooden superstructure, but the mast has a box-like construction of a three-layer composite. And such a design today solves many problems of traditional masts. All the equipment is inside and there is a lot of space. Certainly also easier than steel.
          On the side view (photo, where 2 “Zamvolta” with cranes) it is clearly seen that the own superstructure is very low, which is good for stability. Far below board height. Plus body width. With such an architecture, the metacentric height cannot be where it is needed. Quite the contrary. On the contrary, it is necessary to cram more upward so that it is not excessive with such a width. For which, in fact, there is a lot of space in the mast. Which everyone takes as an add-on. This is a continuation of the add-in.
          In my opinion, the design school will simply not allow the Americans to make a fragile and non-navigable ship. Yes, and now. The superstructure is also short, so that the weight in the middle, which is only a plus for seaworthiness and strength.
          What is visible from the point of view of seaworthiness?
          1. High nose. Even very tall when viewed with respect to length.
          2. Low add-on
          3. Light mast with good aerodynamics.
          4. A large bulb in the nose, that is, a large supply of displacement in the nose. It is always good for seaworthiness.
          5. Just big sizes.
          6. A large supply of power EU. What exactly is needed for the wave-piercing concept of ships.
          7. There is nothing superfluous on the deck. Overboard in the nose too. So, spray will not fly in the stormy sea. Who doesn’t like it?
          For some reason, everyone sees the shape of the iron and believes that it will walk like an iron. Why does a man need a head?
          And no one has yet shown evidence of poor seaworthiness. At least an article in the tabloid press.
          You can find fault with the reliability of everything that is there. Small crew will affect the struggle for survivability. Well, maybe the missiles weren’t filled up, although who knows? No one has so much anyway.
          But, in fact, the box is made in an advanced way.
          Why is the price high? Do we know what is invested there? What is additionally done for construction? But unlike us, the Americans feed their war industry, rather than keep starving. Maybe there all production needed to be re-equipped? So the money is gone. Serial "Burke" is certainly cheaper. Only he does not develop shipbuilding at all.
          Offtop. We are making a good aircraft, the SU-30. But from the point of view of technology - this is technology 50 years ago. Only with CNC. C “A. Burke "the same crap. Therefore, with the DD-1000, Americans began a new page. Successful or not - we'll see. We don’t have so much anyway.
    2. Abel
      Abel 5 March 2018 20: 49
      0
      Judging by earlier articles, the superstructure is composites, Kevlar, aluminum armor. It burns well in case of fire. About the protection of the case - I do not know, but also very interesting.
  4. tlauicol
    tlauicol 2 March 2018 07: 36
    +3
    I’m somehow no longer upset by the cost of Zamvolt, but the initial cost of modernizing Nakhimov in comparison with the superliner at prices of the 13th year
    1. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 2 March 2018 09: 54
      +7
      Quote: Tlauicol
      I’m somehow no longer upset by the cost of Zamvolt, but the initial cost of modernizing Nakhimov in comparison with the superliner at prices of the 13th year

      And what, on the "superliner" are weapons or airplane lifts? to build a “box” with any number of decks is not expensive and not difficult in the current conditions. But the filling, and even such a specific and small-scale (or even single), like a military one, is expensive.
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 2 March 2018 10: 01
        +4
        yeah, it’s so expensive that the nuclear submarines and the TARKR were built for 4-6 years, respectively, and they are being repaired for 8+, constantly shifting the deadlines to the right. I wrote about theft
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 2 March 2018 13: 49
          +1
          Quote: Tlauicol
          I wrote about theft

          what And how much has already been stolen?
  5. tchoni
    tchoni 2 March 2018 10: 20
    +2
    Adequate article. Oleg is a big plus. It is pleasant to read, unlike some of his works.
  6. sxfRipper
    sxfRipper 2 March 2018 11: 52
    +3
    With six-inch artillery systems capable of irrigation with endless rain of guided ammunition
    I immediately remembered Zhukov’s memoir and “... and on ships 40 sets of ammunition” ...
  7. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 2 March 2018 13: 15
    +15
    Nautilus recalled)
  8. Berkut24
    Berkut24 2 March 2018 22: 44
    0
    The topic of reliability of this magnificence packed with electronics and electrics is not disclosed. each of them has repeatedly visited the docks with serious breakdowns in both energy and electronics. Just as the F-35s are not allowed to fly far from the airfield, so the Zamolty have a restriction on the distance from the bases.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 March 2018 11: 15
      +1
      F-35s have flown the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean dozens of times when they were transferred to military bases and customers. Their range (with refueling in the air) is unlimited.
      Service Center established in Italy. The second is in the USA. Israel serves itself.
      Zombolts will work in the Pacific against China.
      1. Berkut24
        Berkut24 3 March 2018 13: 21
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        Zumwalt in the Pacific will not work, because This is a coastal ship. Moreover, they will not go alone, because require air defense cover. Therefore, they are now moving accompanied by destroyers. For this stupid reason, their "stealth" is no longer stealth, because not a stealth cover ship. Maximum - they will stand in Japan and roam there in the straits.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 March 2018 16: 42
          +1
          Zumvolt is NOT a coastal ship. This is an ocean cruiser. His initial task was to strike the coast of the enemy overseas. Now they are being remade for missile attacks on surface enemy squadrons in the oceans.
          1. DrVintorez
            DrVintorez 3 March 2018 20: 31
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            min
            Quote: voyaka uh
            ocean cruiser

            or
            Quote: voyaka uh
            striking the coast of the enemy overseas

            I don’t understand how your head does not become square from such mutually exclusive premises?!?!?!
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 4 March 2018 11: 34
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              To strike the enemy’s coastline
              Beyond the ocean, this ocean must first be crossed. And do not drown in the storm.
              Is not it? wink
              Therefore, there is no logical contradiction in my words.
              Similar to the Zumvolt in the form of the hull of the cruiser Aurora (and her friends)
              successfully crossed from the Baltic to the Pacific Ocean 100 years ago.
              1. sxfRipper
                sxfRipper 5 March 2018 12: 43
                +1
                Similar to the Zumvolt in the form of the hull of the cruiser Aurora (and her friends)
                successfully crossed from the Baltic to the Pacific Ocean 100 years ago.
                Mostly along the coastline. And the iron must cross the Pacific Ocean across! Yes and the rule tricky ship - tricky torpedo the Chinese also know.
  9. Xscorpion
    Xscorpion 2 March 2018 23: 01
    +2
    Quote: BAI
    Battleship "Nagato" - passed 2 nuclear tests. In both cases, the distance from the epicenter did not exceed 1.6 km. For an air explosion - hundreds of meters.





    This is a photo after the first explosion, airborne. Out of 21 ships, 5 sank, almost all the others were seriously damaged or burned. Luckily, he was aft to the explosion, the damage was small, so it was decided to use it in the second part of the tests. There were 16 ships. Everyone drowned, except for 3, which they managed to tow to the shore. But only one submarine was restored, which continued to serve after repair. Nagato really drowned only on the fourth day. And the German cruiser Prince Eugen only after 5 months. He could be saved, but because of the high radiation on the ship they could not.
    1. BAI
      BAI 2 March 2018 23: 29
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      Whatever it was, Nagato withstood 2 JVs last - 26 kT. Sank after 4 days. Who else can boast such survivability?
  10. Odesit
    Odesit 3 March 2018 00: 14
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    Just byala. in theory, successful projects either hide or hack in all holes. and failure PR. Draw conclusions gentlemen are good. Are Russians still hawking.
  11. Bell pepper
    Bell pepper 3 March 2018 01: 38
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    The author does not write correctly, the pronunciation is not 'Zamvolt', but 'Zumwalt'. (Zumwalt)
    And this boat always reminded me of 'Virginia':
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Virginia
    :)
  12. Dart2027
    Dart2027 3 March 2018 07: 11
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    Quote: andrewkor
    Piranha will be enough wave, but the torpedo is 650 mm., Walk like a walk, shoot, shoot like that!

    In fact, they put 400-mm torpedo tubes on them, they didn’t even fit in 533 mm, where 650 mm were.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 3 March 2018 09: 02
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      Well, we are hypothetically reasoning. With 650mm. TA it will not be real Piranha, but alternative. If you will send Baby! The joke, banter, but you are serious!
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 3 March 2018 11: 45
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        Quote: andrewkor
        Well, we are hypothetically reasoning.

        Yes, no, not hypothetically. Heavy missiles or torpedoes can disable any ship, this is really a fact. But in order for them to be able to do this, we need carriers that also have large dimensions. If Onyx can be launched from MRK, then Granite needs at least a cruiser, and the same thing with torpedoes.
        1. andrewkor
          andrewkor 3 March 2018 13: 37
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          Give up, give up, give up!
  13. Kashey IMMORTAL
    Kashey IMMORTAL 3 March 2018 08: 47
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    I read somewhere last year that the "iron" has stability so-so ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 March 2018 11: 19
      +1
      He already walked in stormy weather in the Atlantic. And the results are better than those of the Berks, who fail in the wave.
      1. DM51
        DM51 4 March 2018 09: 00
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        He already walked in stormy weather in the Atlantic. And the results are better than those of the Berks, who fail in the wave.

        Can I link how many points? And how will it be in the northern latitudes, where icing is possible, and taking into account the design features of Zamvolt, it is impossible to fully lap around on it, and the superstructure is huge, when tons of ice stick to it, the iron will make an overclock
  14. Altona
    Altona 3 March 2018 20: 24
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    Quote: Santa Fe
    The purpose of my comparison was to show a catastrophic difference in the cost of building a military and civilian ship.

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    Your article is already in the middle turns into a hymn to this ship. Although any technique can be touted as a storehouse of technology, criticized for the cost and combat value.
  15. ilik54
    ilik54 4 March 2018 06: 43
    +1
    One would like to ask, to paraphrase the classic - How many “Caliber” and “Zircons” are needed to destroy it? Remember the wheel in Dead Souls? And to Kazan, I think it will not reach. No, it won’t reach Kazan.
  16. 3danimal
    3danimal 4 March 2018 11: 48
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    Quote: ilik54
    One would like to ask, to paraphrase the classic - How many “Caliber” and “Zircons” are needed to destroy it?

    There are probably more calibres than for Burke or BOD 1155.1 - the defense systems are much more advanced. And Zirconov - 0, since they do not exist in service. In general, the appearance of missiles with similar characteristics in such small sizes in the visible future is unlikely. I met information that under the name "Zircon" there was a project for the modernization of the P-800. Apparently, it’s flying farther and “smarter”. More realistic option.
  17. Altona
    Altona 4 March 2018 13: 03
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    Quote: 3danimal
    There are probably more calibres than for Burke or BOD 1155.1 - the defense systems are much more advanced.

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    Nothing is imperfect there, Zamvolt’s air defense is generally wretched.
  18. Abel
    Abel 5 March 2018 20: 44
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    Yes, testing new technologies. And we had types of weapons that gave impetus to further development, but we ourselves did not go into the series. Honestly, I am most interested in its seaworthiness. how he will behave in a good atlantic storm
  19. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 8 March 2018 20: 35
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    Kaptsov in his repertoire - large ships, guns.
    Okay, school level essays about economics no longer write. And then there were attempts))
    Let’s write about ships, he’s better at it.
    Only in this article did he move away from his “canons” - there is not a word about ARMOR.
    Is the world changing, and with it Oleg Kaptsov ???
  20. Cuba
    Cuba 10 March 2018 16: 19
    +1
    Quote: Theodore
    In general - money down the drain!

    Duc .... still print! .... own hand, sovereign !!