"Dagger of retribution" from Putin. How will the hybrid X-15 and Iskander punish the USA for the Atlantic approaches to Russia?

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About a week ago, on the vastness of the Russian Internet, data on the ongoing work on the project of a promising heavy aircraft-carrying complex of pr. 23000 Shtorm appeared again. Several dozen said this with reference to the head of the Institute of Shipbuilding and Weapons of the Military Educational and Scientific Center of the Navy of the Russian Ministry of Defense Nikolai Maksimov. news and analytical sources. A promising aircraft carrier with a displacement of more than 100 thousand tons will receive a 4-position launch system, represented by a 2-springboard complex and a complex of two electromagnetic catapults, which will provide the aircraft carrier with a unique operational efficiency of the wing even in the Arctic latitudes. The very same air wing (shipborne fighter regiment), consisting of 90-100 aircraft and helicopters, in the future can receive not only promising multifunctional MiG-29KUB fighters equipped with new on-board radar systems Zhuk-AE and Zhuk-AME, but also a slightly heavier deck version of the promising Su-57 aircraft complex with a reinforced chassis and airframe. Valentin Belonenko, head of the surface ships design department of the FSUE Krylov State Scientific Center, recently announced the probable introduction of the PAK-FA into the Shtorm air wing.



If Belonenko’s assumption is destined to be embodied “in the gland,” then Su-57K will be the first in stories deck aviation a heavy fifth-generation multi-functional fighter, because in 5 the Lockheed Martin and Boeing curtailed the design of a deck modification of the Raptor with variable wing geometry AX (A / FX) in favor of the cheaper F / A-1993E / F “Super Hornet”, all the more so since real turmoil prevailed in Russia at that time. What is noteworthy, the “numbed” Su-18 will open up completely new horizons for the Storm ship fighter regiment in terms of establishing no-fly zones and delivering long-range strikes on surface and coastal targets in remote parts of the World Ocean, which will be achieved thanks to 57 - 70% more combat radius of action than the US F-80B and F-35C. But today, all such thoughts can only be considered dreams with an unclear future, because according to the statement of the general designer of the United Aircraft Corporation PJSC Sergey Korotkov, made for the Interfax agency, the Russian Ministry of Defense has not yet put forward requirements for the development of the deck version of the Su-35.

In reality, given the available Northern fleet heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser Project 1143.5 Admiral Kuznetsov, with its 279th separate naval fighter regiment, represented by Su-33 fighters with outdated highly specialized N001 radar, the surface component of the Russian Navy in a global conflict with NATO’s air force is absolutely not ready to operate even 2,5-3 thousand km from the Russian coast. After all, in the near future, at least 13 active aircraft carriers (10 Nimitz classes, 1 Jerald Ford class, 1 Queen Elizabeth class and 1 Charles de Gaulle class) with more than than 950 fighters of generations “4 ++ / 5” (“Super Hornets”, “Rafali” and “Lightning”).

Until yesterday’s speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin with a message to the Federal Assembly, it was quite logical to assume that for combat duty of anti-submarine aircraft of the Russian Navy, or to perform a powerful proactive anti-ship strike on a reinforced NATO OGVM off the coast of Iceland or Scotland, fighter air defense was required cosmic forces. In the first case, air defense aviation was in dire demand for anti-submarine escort Il-38N and Tu-142M4 and samolotov- repeaters Tu-142MR "Eagle" in communication with ballistic missile submarine or Maple through superlong radio with 8,6-kilometer cable antenna. In the second case, - to cover the Su-34 and Tu-22М3, performing the opening of the “anti-missile umbrella” of the enemy's AUG using X-58 anti-radar missiles and heavy X-32 anti-radar missiles. Here, the probability of an airborne meeting with the on-duty squadrons of enemy fighter planes is extremely high.

The problem was that to exit the above tactical and long-range aviation (including Su-34, Tu-22М3 and covering Su-35С / Su-57) to the southern borders of the Norwegian Sea, without the costly overflight flight of the Scandinavian Peninsula, there was a need for "breakthrough »Air defense of Finland, Sweden and Norway. And this task is not so simple, given the fact that the Swedish Air Force is armed with 100 light multipurpose JAS-39C / D Gripen fighter jets, some of which have been upgraded to MS20, and therefore equipped with the most advanced With radar stations c AFAR PS-05 / A Mk4 and for more than a year and a half, the “direct-flow” guided air-to-air missile of the long range MBDA “Meteor” carries on the suspensions. Moreover, in the near future, the armed forces of Sweden will receive from the United States the latest Patriot PAC-3 anti-missile systems, capable of operating as on the ballistic elements of high-precision weaponsand aerodynamic targets at distances from 30 to 80 km, respectively, and altitudes to 35000 m. An immediate and effective asymmetric response was required to the dominance of NATO’s naval strike forces in the North Atlantic and on the Mediterranean long-distance approaches to Russia, allowing them to strike with “Tomahawks” on strategic facilities in the Western and Southern military districts.

It was this asymmetrical answer that Vladimir Putin announced during his speech in the central exhibition hall "Manege". This is a strategic dagger hypersonic aeroballistic missile (the product index is not yet known), which is a distant descendant of the Soviet tactical attack aeroballistic missile X-15 (Item 115). In the video for official use presented to the Federal Assembly, you can see the long-range interceptor MiG-31Д3 with the on-board number "592" (serial number 5902, "Product 01Д3"), which became the first Foxhound adapted for air refueling and known for its refueling over the North geographical and North magnetic poles under the control of test pilot Roman Taskaev and test navigator Leonid Popov. This car was the first Russian fighter that flew over the poles due to a double refueling in the air.

Analyzing the video material, we can conclude that the design of the Dagger rocket attachment units involves all 4 front vent knots for air combat P-33 / С, with an estimated length of the product corresponding to 6,5 — 7 meters, body diameter - around 1000— 1100 mm. The appearance of the rocket has similarities with the operational tactical ballistic missile 9М723-1 Iskander-M, which leads to the likely unification of the Dagger and the Iskander in many modules of the electronic-guided missile air defense system, including: an inertial navigation system, a control system (represented by a gyro-stabilized platform BTsVM), active radar type guidance system (ARGSN radome transparent fairing is visible on the video, perhaps, the 9B918 product from the Radar MMS production association), as well as the control complex on the basis of the aerodynamic control surfaces, the gas-jet system of the deflection vector thrust, as well as four paired (2-nozzle) units of gas-dynamic control.

Despite the solid constructive similarities with the Iskander, the Dagger’s flight performance is about an order of magnitude better than the 9М723 and X-15 combined. In particular, according to Vladimir Putin, the new air-based missile system is capable of hitting targets with conventional high-explosive and nuclear combat "equipment" at a distance of 2000 km! Such a long range with such a small size is achieved by a high-altitude stratospheric launch, which allows the rocket to avoid the ascending branch of the trajectory in the dense layers of the troposphere, which burns an impressive percentage of precious fuel. This automatically classifies the "Dagger" as a medium-range missile system (RSD), and even in the super mobile version! Moscow’s excellent response to the recent endorsement by the US Congress of the allocation of 58-million allocations for the development of a medium-range ground-based missile, isn't it? The most interesting in the second part of the video.

Aeroballistic hypersonic rocket “Dagger” possesses a “quasi-ballistic” flight trajectory at altitudes from 35 to 50 — 80 and more than a kilometer, due to which the means of air attack can overcome practically any anti-missile defense system over their ultimate high-altitude interception line. MIM-104F anti-missiles (“Patriot PAC-3”), “Aster-30 Block 1NT” will not be able to “reach” to the “Dagger” on the march high-altitude trajectory. Conclusion: promising hypersonic missiles launched from air platforms (tactical fighters) over the territory of the Leningrad Region will be able to strike at the forces of the United Navy in the North Atlantic, indicated at the beginning of our review, without difficulty. At the same time, the Swedish “Patriots” and “Gripenes” will not be able to oppose anything to the “Dagger” rocket flying in the stratopause or thermosphere.

In the immediate vicinity of the battlefield, where the enemy’s naval formation is located, the “Dagger” falls within the range of the RIM-161B / RIM-174 REAM anti-missile missiles and the Aegis system and the AN / SPY-1D radar. Here, in favor of our hypersonic aircraft carrier killer, such advantages as the super-small EPR (approximately corresponding to the radar signature of 9М723-1 missiles of the Iskander-M complex) will play, a huge flying speed in 10500 km / h (depriving the Idzhis operators of precious seconds on the “launch of the route of the target” and “seizure”), as well as the possible implementation of anti-aircraft maneuvers with overloads over 30 - 35 units. This will not allow intercepting it not only on the descending branch of the trajectory in the thermosphere / upper stratosphere using the Mk 142 exoatmospheric combat stages, but also in the more dense layers of the atmosphere using RIM-174 ERAM (Standard Missile-6) anti-aircraft interceptor missiles and RIM-162 ESSM, unable to work on such maneuverable objects. Americans may not even dream of intercepting the “Dagger” on the follow-up course using the “Standards”, because its speed is 2 times higher than that of the SM-6 and roughly corresponds to the SM-3. The highlight of the Dagger multipurpose aeroballistic missile is the ability to attack at a dive angle of 90 degrees, which makes it difficult for the AN / SPY-1 radar complexes, which have a noticeably smaller angle of elevation of the scanning beam, to detect. Apparently, the product can also be used for terrestrial radio-emitting / radiocontrast purposes such as "radar", "PU OTBR", etc.

Information sources:
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-125.html
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-816.html
http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/03/01/sarmat-kinzhal-i-avangard-putin-pokazal-novye-vidy-oruzhiya.html
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  1. +37
    2 March 2018 07: 01
    Listen, well, it's good to fantasize! Russia will not have any aircraft carrier in the next 30 years! The USSR missed its chance since the times of Zeppelin, then the economy did not pull, then the collapse, now the economy also rules. Not from good life tanks are being modernized from storage, ships repaired over the years. In fairness, I note the appearance of Armata, Su-57, a new development of the Arctic, there is simply NO resources for another expensive “toy” (According to the materials of VO).
    1. +28
      2 March 2018 07: 22
      Quote: andrewkor
      Listen, well, it's good to fantasize! Russia will not have any aircraft carrier in the next 30 years!

      fig yourself, already 30 years ahead you know how to look ... Was Vanga in kindred?) I'm not sure what will / will not be in 5 years, but here's the forecast)
      Quote: andrewkor
      Not from a good life, tanks from storage are being modernized.

      it's generally from the category of nonsense - they are engaged in modernization of old equipment all, including the USA.
      1. +7
        2 March 2018 08: 48
        Dear, at least read the quote you quoted. Are there thousands of tanks in storage in the USA? I’ll also admit that they will seize the B-52 from Mojave, but it’s unlikely that you can’t cut a lot of dough here!
        1. +10
          2 March 2018 09: 02
          Quote: andrewkor
          Dear, at least read the quote you quoted. Are there thousands of tanks in storage in the USA?

          there are thousands of planes in the USA, as they always made tanks and produce many times less than us, because they do not need)
          Quote: andrewkor
          I will also admit that the B-52 will be removed from Mojave, but it is unlikely that you can’t cut a lot of dough here!

          oh, do not worry, they cut down enough dough on ships and planes, standing like ships))
          Quote: andrewkor
          ! Wang and for 5 years that Kuzya will not enter the system!

          Well, this is a real time, and I believe in such.
          1. +2
            2 March 2018 09: 39
            Well, at least here they are in solidarity with me, thank you, otherwise I almost lost faith in my “vanging”!
        2. +4
          2 March 2018 19: 38
          So far, the old T-72 wins all in the tank biathlon. And the notorious USA does not even appear because they are a complete zero zero in tank battles. Yes, and tanks are now fighting only where there are no Caliber, Dryers and UAVs. So the new Armat tank - overtook and surpassed the rest by 50 years in advance.
          1. +3
            3 March 2018 00: 07
            Now tanks are needed for war, and not for fun pokatushek, and there should be a lot of them, quickly, reliably, repairably and crews should come from stock to familiar tanks. Armata does not meet these requirements, so they’ll make a half-ass - another for cantemation ...
            But with Kuzey ... they can also keep a season in the ranks, just in case, because "If there is a war tomorrow ...". And we have no other. Till .
            I think they will start building a new aircraft carrier in the 20s, as soon as the industry is ready, the reactors on icebreakers will break in. And there will be money. In the 20s they will definitely be enough for everything you need.
            1. +3
              3 March 2018 11: 01
              Quote: Natalia777
              So far, the old T-72 wins all in the tank biathlon. And the notorious USA does not even appear because they are a complete zero zero in tank battles.

              What does biathlon have to do with tank battles?
              Quote: bayard
              And there will be money. In the 20s they will definitely be enough for everything you need.

              Well it is necessary.
            2. 0
              14 March 2018 00: 36
              Quote: bayard
              fast, reliable, repairable

              It is with such qualities that Armata is created.
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      1. +2
        2 March 2018 18: 05
        Dear Geisenberg, you are wrong, to put it mildly, my opinion was formed as a result of discussions at the VO. What does the US State Department have to do with it, it is not clear. If you know something about their manuals, share it, everything will be interesting. And more and great (Russia) is clearly visible from far away!
        1. +1
          3 March 2018 08: 13
          Geeks, Geisrnberg dumped and deleted his comment, so as not to disgrace. Here I pinched him hire a State Department. Still reibert stirs up the water, also dump, I hope "daughter ahvitsera"!
    3. +1
      2 March 2018 16: 55
      Normal gunpowder)))
      1. +3
        2 March 2018 17: 35
        Dear Geisenberg, in what training manual you know, the institution you have indicated is at least a word in favor
        The Russian achievements I mentioned?. And in my comment there is. The topic of aircraft carriers as part of the Russian Navy was repeatedly discussed at the VO, I voiced my position, she has support for not a small part of the audience, justify my vision of the problem, I will only be grateful for broadening my horizons.
        My flag is really Uzbek, I have nothing to hide, I’m only proud, but my soul is still Russian and I worry more than some of its citizens for Russia. My criticism has real grounds for it, and you are offended by the State, as I understand you.
      2. +1
        2 March 2018 17: 45
        Dear reibert, excuse me, with a capital letter, you would be more worried about your missile defense, which it doesn’t plow, but you are looking for bots in the dark!
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  2. +11
    2 March 2018 07: 05
    Putin almost said to the designers: you yourself understood what you did, my dears?
    1. FID
      +19
      2 March 2018 08: 13
      Rather, on the contrary, he himself does not understand anything ....
      1. +12
        2 March 2018 11: 04
        Quote: SSI
        Rather, on the contrary, he himself does not understand anything ....


        Especially about the small-sized nuclear engine for cruise missiles ...
        The effect of the destruction of which by radioactive contamination will exceed the effect of the explosion of a wearable nuclear charge ...
        1. +19
          2 March 2018 11: 34
          This is a strategic weapon. If it comes to its use, then no one will think about radioactive contamination.
          1. +8
            2 March 2018 14: 17
            Quote: Midshipman
            This is a strategic weapon. If it comes to its use, then no one will think about radioactive contamination.


            Do not be naive - how will the flight tests be conducted? How will the exercises be done? The risk of loss in non-combat conditions for technical reasons on its territory is very high.
            That is why the tests of the nuclear power plant on the Tu-95 in the early 60s were stopped.
            Which ram will step on the same rake again?
            1. +7
              2 March 2018 14: 29
              Tests of an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant are conducted on Novaya Zemlya with flights over the waters of the Arctic Ocean, in the event of a fall, the reactor goes under water.

              About this (New Earth) yesterday said Shoigu.
              1. +1
                2 March 2018 20: 05
                And why the cruise missile NRE? In this case, 1 unit will cost as a regiment of the Sarmat ICBM.
                1. +2
                  2 March 2018 20: 10
                  The engine is not rocket, but jet. And its value is not equal to the cost of the Sarmatians regiment.

                  Although, by and large, you are right - the Sarmat is an ideal weapon: cheap, cheerful, universal, global, operational, not intercepted (taking into account maneuvering Vanguard-type warheads).
                  1. +4
                    2 March 2018 21: 15
                    Quote: Operator
                    Although by and large you are right - “Sarmat” is an ideal weapon: cheap, cheerful, universal, global, operational, not intercepted

                    Much cheaper, not intercepted and more versatile looks underwater drones with nuclear warheads. There are no missile defense systems at a depth of one kilometer, as well as warning systems. And you can equip such a torpedo robot with anything you like, unlike the stationary Sarmatian.
                    1. +2
                      2 March 2018 22: 39
                      And where did you get the idea that it is possible to intercept at least one ICBM combat unit (even in the absence of false targets and maneuverability of the units) in conditions of high-altitude detonation of leading nuclear weapons, totally jamming all air defense / missile defense radars without exception?

                      Sarmatia’s universality is different - it can fly to America even through the North, even through the South Pole, hit any target at any distance, deliver to the target at least a monoblock warhead with a capacity of several tens of megatons, at least an 20 warhead with an output of 100 ctn each, even in any other assortment.

                      And the invulnerability of the Sarmat missile itself lies not in itself, but in the SPRN, which should record an adversary’s nuclear missile attack with 10 reserves of minutes for the missile to go through the active section of the trajectory and separate all the warheads from it.

                      As far as I understand, the Russian SPRN more than provides this reserve of time.
                      1. +1
                        2 March 2018 22: 54
                        Quote: Operator
                        And where did you get the idea that it is possible to intercept at least one ICBM combat unit (even in the absence of false targets and maneuverability of the units) in conditions of high-altitude detonation of leading nuclear weapons, totally jamming all air defense / missile defense radars without exception?

                        And where is it written to me that it is possible to intercept Sarmat’s blocks? I’m talking about the issue’s price and its effectiveness. Status is an order of magnitude cheaper, and creating it technically is two orders of magnitude simpler. That's what I'm talking about.
                      2. +2
                        5 March 2018 13: 24
                        Quote: Operator
                        at least 20 BB

                        Under the OSV-2 agreement, the number of shared warheads is limited:
                        In order to limit the total number of warheads, the OSV-2 Treaty set limits on the equipping of missiles with individual guidance warheads. In particular, it was forbidden to increase the number of warheads on ground-based ballistic missiles, as well as equip sea-based missiles with more than 14 warheads. Heavy bombers of the existing types should not have been equipped with more than 20 cruise missiles, and taking into account the new bombers, the average number of cruise missiles per bomber should not exceed 28. Thus, unlike OSV-1, the new Treaty established certain restrictions by the number of warheads that could be deployed on strategic carriers.l

                        So 20 cannot be installed until OSV-2 has been denounced, usually on "free" places, elements of overcoming missile defense are installed.
                        Besides:
                        The SALT-2 Treaty provided for measures aimed at containing the process of modernization of strategic weapons. So, each of the parties could deploy no more than one new ICBM, which could be equipped with 10 warheads.

                    2. +1
                      3 March 2018 11: 13
                      Quote: Danila75
                      There are no missile defense systems at a depth of one kilometer, as well as warning systems

                      There is one tiny little problem, so, nothing.

                      Offshore with depths of 30-200 meters off the US coast for 100 (TO) -200 (AO) km. So quietly trump to trump to the toilet will not succeed.
                      1. +2
                        4 March 2018 19: 07
                        Will it fail at a speed of 3 knots? Yes you are a dreamer.
                      2. +3
                        4 March 2018 19: 10
                        Quote: kerosene
                        Will it fail at a speed of 3 knots?

                        40 hours in the area where the enemy can come across any number of active sonar stations?
                        Oh well.
                2. +3
                  2 March 2018 21: 43
                  Due to what will it cost as a regiment of Sarmat? Such a reactor is the simplest device, the main trick of which is the selection of the necessary materials and isotopes.
              2. +2
                5 March 2018 13: 11
                Quote: Operator
                Tests of an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant are conducted on Novaya Zemlya with flights over the waters of the Arctic Ocean, in the event of a fall, the reactor goes under water.


                It has become exceptionally easier from the fact that a nuclear source with minimal biological protection will collapse into the Arctic Arctic - that’s just easier ...
              3. +2
                5 March 2018 13: 15
                Quote: Operator
                Tests of an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant are conducted on Novaya Zemlya with flights over the waters of the Arctic Ocean, in the event of a fall, the reactor goes under water.


                You can see the statistics of how many air disasters of strategic carriers with the destruction of nuclear weapons or losses occurred in the 1968th century (the US Department of Defense first published a list of cases of accidents with nuclear weapons in 13, in which 1950 serious nuclear accidents were mentioned between 1968 and XNUMX over the years).
                Strategic nuclear-powered weapons are, above all, a potential threat to the territory on which they are based.
                1. +1
                  5 March 2018 15: 46
                  “Territory threat”, but what about without it: a kitchen knife and that threat (it will fall on one’s leg, break small bones of the foot, and you’re tortured to go to doctors) laughing

                  Nuclear weapons are primarily a threat to potential adversaries (a strategy of intimidation), since they are not exposed to 13 catastrophes for 18 years, but to the one and only Armageddon, but before that fear-fear-fear, which from time to time requires its escalation bully
                  1. +2
                    6 March 2018 09: 31
                    Quote: Operator
                    Territory threat ", but what about without it: a kitchen knife and that threat (it will fall on your leg, break small bones of the foot, you’re tortured to go to doctors)
                    Nuclear weapons are primarily a threat to potential adversaries (a strategy of intimidation), since they are not exposed to 13 catastrophes for 18 years, but to the one and only Armageddon, but before that fear-fear-fear, which from time to time requires its escalation


                    I’m just living not so far from the EURT — the consequences of the “potential threat” that resulted in large-scale pollution and the removal of large areas of their territory, as well as due to the constant discharge of liquid radioactive waste into the open water basin along the Techa River.
                    The consequences of a nuclear bombing of its territory would have a much smaller effect of nuclear waste pollution.


                    You have to be frank idiots to poison your land and your population, while the potential adversary has experienced only “hypothetical fear”.
                    Before the Chernobyl disaster, the Kyshtym disaster that caused the EURT was the most powerful nuclear disaster in the USSR and in the world. Radioactive discharges into the Techa River, which poisoned the water basin along which 22000 people lived and no one has yet eliminated the consequences (if at all possible), so they draped the river along the road bridges in places, and signs of radioactive infection carefully came across.
                    1. +1
                      6 March 2018 09: 34
                      Leaders come and go - and after them remains the earth, poisoned for millennia.
                      1. +2
                        6 March 2018 09: 36

                        in the areas of the EURT
                    2. +1
                      6 March 2018 10: 13
                      Ay-ah-ah, 22 thousands of evacuated - "we all die" (C)

                      Do not like in the Urals - move to an ecologically clean region of Russia, we have 99,9 percent of their territory.

                      After the American nuclear bombing of the USSR in the 1950's, everything would be exactly the opposite.
            2. 0
              14 March 2018 00: 41
              Quote: DimerVladimer
              Do not be naive - how will the flight tests be conducted? How will the exercises be done? The risk of loss in non-combat conditions for technical reasons on its territory is very high.

              The trouble is that you are even more naive in this situation. Recognize that you do not know how this power plant is designed and how harmful its emissions are.
        2. +1
          2 March 2018 12: 57
          Not a trace of the tests found over Europe recently
          1. +2
            2 March 2018 14: 38
            Quote: Evil543
            Not a trace of the tests found over Europe recently


            No The lighthouse threw a radioactive cloud, which the "reputable commission" called the entry of a satellite with a nuclear power plant into the atmosphere.
            The authoritative commission was not even embarrassed that the sensors around the lighthouse showed a multiple increase in concentration
            when in Roshydromet information from all weather stations formed a plate, from which it is clearly visible that the posts around the Mayak software show a significant excess.
        3. +7
          2 March 2018 13: 36
          Quote: DimerVladimer
          Quote: SSI
          Rather, on the contrary, he himself does not understand anything ....


          Especially about the small-sized nuclear engine for cruise missiles ...
          The effect of the destruction of which by radioactive contamination will exceed the effect of the explosion of a wearable nuclear charge ...


          Where does the data come from ??? You know nothing about this engine. Neither the principle of action nor the fuel nor the scheme ... What do you produce fakes?
          1. +7
            2 March 2018 13: 58
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Where does the data come from ??? You don't know anything about this engine

            SSI is one of the few people on the site who understand something about rocketry, as far as I remember.
            Quote: Geisenberg
            What are fakes producing?

            Are you on "you" with the Supreme? Ask him.
          2. +3
            2 March 2018 15: 01
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Where does the data come from ??? You know nothing about this engine. Neither the principle of action nor the fuel nor the scheme ... What do you produce fakes?


            What are we so familiar to switch to YOU?

            I have an idea how such installations work.
            In principle, the functioning of such an engine is no secret, the complex technological issue of effective heat transfer from nuclear power to the air flow was resolved. From a heavy and vulnerable nuclear reactor, the logical transition was to radio isotope installations - compact and more secure, tested on space satellites. In addition, there is no reason to think that the matter has advanced beyond laboratory prototypes :))


            It used to be a bulky nuclear reactor in a flying laboratory, now it will be a compact source.
            1. +1
              4 March 2018 19: 08
              The greatest pollution with ruthenium-106 was found over Romania. So do not la la.
        4. +1
          2 March 2018 22: 59
          If the nuclear power plant is installed in the Kyrgyz Republic, then what's the difference, will there be pollution from the reactor or not ....?
      2. +13
        2 March 2018 11: 37
        Quote: SSI
        Rather, on the contrary, he himself does not understand anything ....

        Yesterday, in general, so much was said: lasers, blasters, flying saucers (the last two jokes of course), and everything is already in trial operation! By no means do I want to say that the President lied, but what can this laser do? To make strong coffee and a strong body for Volkswagen, or something really worthwhile, that’s the question. About a hypersonic missile, there is, as it were, more faith in the fact that this thing is and really works IMHO. But in any case, the wow effect happened. Whether we will have an aircraft carrier or not, in any case, we don’t have to worry about the current state of the defense, it is a pity that we are relegating internal problems to the background, and it was they who destroyed the Soviet Union with all its military power.
        1. +4
          3 March 2018 00: 30
          There are reasons for every phenomenon. So this year the restless “hegemon” appointed a war ... Well, he doesn’t dance with him otherwise, he tried everything else ...
          Mikhalkov, in my opinion, had the film “Don’t even think” ... The character will only reveal with his brain about the bad, and he already has a trunk in the lobeshnik - “don’t even think”. And how else to stop the inadequacy if he thinks that he is a cowboy, and the rest are digging manure ... But he won’t understand - he’ll spread his brains around the neighborhood, and with his entire population, with friends and allies. In such matters, humanism is redundant.
      3. 0
        3 March 2018 13: 55
        And you are not SSI against the wind, you will understand better than him.
    2. +7
      2 March 2018 13: 37
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      Putin almost said to the designers: you yourself understood what you did, my dears?


      The designers just very well understand what they did. Did everyone else understand? )))
  3. +14
    2 March 2018 07: 27
    The cells of my brain reserved for the perception of scientific and non-science fiction, absurdity and technical absurdities are already full in the middle of the text.
    Make me don't see this!
    1. +4
      2 March 2018 08: 06
      Quote: Alex_59
      The cells of my brain reserved for the perception of scientific and non-science fiction, absurdity and technical absurdities are already full in the middle of the text.

      In general, especially for this author on the Military Review, it is necessary to allocate a special heading: “Non-scientific fiction”. Otherwise, this work can not be called. wassat
    2. +5
      2 March 2018 11: 44
      Make me don't see this!

      it is just the same!
    3. +1
      2 March 2018 18: 05
      Quote: Alex_59
      Make me don't see this!

      Make me not see this

      By the way a good idea for an article
  4. FID
    +25
    2 March 2018 08: 17
    I apologize, I myself worked with X-15 ... They are no longer there, replacement ... ???? On which element base are the autopilots of these "new" missiles made? On the animation you can show a lot of things ... But, yes, Hurray !!!!
    1. +20
      2 March 2018 08: 22
      Quote: SSI
      I apologize, I myself worked with X-15 ... They are no longer there, replacement ... ???? On which element base are the autopilots of these "new" missiles made? On the animation you can show a lot of things ... But, yes, Hurray !!!!

      Sergey Ivanovich, most of at least a few technically savvy readers of Damantsev have not taken seriously for a long time. It either cancels survey radars and detects aerial targets with the help of cell towers, or creates a missile defense system in the Kuril Islands. belay
      1. FID
        +7
        2 March 2018 08: 24
        Thank you for your support!
        1. +11
          2 March 2018 08: 34
          Quote: SSI
          Thank you for your support!

          Sergey Ivanovich, I acknowledge your vast experience, balanced position, and competent comments. hi But this is not only the point, because there were times when we disagreed. I believe that authors published on VO required be responsible for the accuracy of the information!
      2. +3
        2 March 2018 09: 47
        Here, the real possibilities of the new shock complex are extremely clearly described. But your recent “annealing” in the comments will be remembered for a long time. And yes, by the way, here is an interesting development for you from the British company Roke Manor Research, with the assistance of British Aerospace, which can be considered a competitor of our Field-21:

        This is about cell towers, which in some cases can replace the radiating elements of a radar ..
        1. +4
          2 March 2018 10: 09
          Quote: Fulcrum29
          The real possibilities of the new strike complex are very clearly described here ..

          The existence of which is not confirmed by anything. request
          Quote: Fulcrum29
          But your recent "annealing" in the comments will be remembered for a long time.

          You better tell us how they were going to direct radio command missiles, without a guidance station?
          Quote: Fulcrum29
          And yes, by the way, here is a rather interesting development from the British company “Roke Manor Research”, with the assistance of “British Aerospace”, which can be considered a competitor of our “Field-21”:

          The picture is beautiful, just how far have the practical work progressed?
          Yes, and why did you delete the most “interesting” comments of your own in your profile?
          1. 0
            2 March 2018 10: 28
            You are also the author on this resource, and you should know that for this purpose, the Pechora-2D complex uses the CHP-125 antenna post in the updated FCR-125 version .. which can both direct missiles using the radio command method and highlight the goals of the PARGSN recently developed for the 5B27 family of rockets. The illumination and targeting path works FCR-125 in the X-band of the 8-12 GHz.
            1. +3
              2 March 2018 10: 33
              Quote: Fulcrum29
              You are also the author on this resource, and you should know that for this purpose, the Pechora-2D complex uses the CHP-125 antenna post in the updated FCR-125 version .. which can both direct missiles using the radio command method and highlight the goals of the PARGSN recently developed for the 5B27 family of rockets. The illumination and targeting path works FCR-125 in the X-band of the 8-12 GHz.

              Where is this model adopted, and where serially produced SAM "5B27 family" with a semi-active head? And how do you propose aiming these missiles at the target without backlighting and commands, only with the help of Karat? In addition, I have great doubts that one and the same missiles created on the basis of 5В27 can be equipped with a radio command and radar guidance system. Thus, as a part of one short-range air defense system, several types of anti-aircraft missiles appear?
          2. 0
            7 March 2018 07: 52
            > The existence of which has not been confirmed.

            again, you take on the role of chief of general staff. How do you know about secret developments?
            1. +2
              7 March 2018 14: 06
              Quote: xtur
              again, you take on the role of chief of general staff. How do you know about secret developments?

              Well, if you are more fully informed in Armenia about the state of affairs in the Russian armed forces, then of course yes. No.
              Actually, especially for you, a lover of secrecy and conspiracy theories, I recently published a report on the state of your republic’s air defense system. It is only a pity that you did not participate in the discussion, which, frankly, I am disappointed. But apparently in Russian realities you understand better than me. hi
              1. 0
                10 March 2018 22: 49
                > I recently made a publication about the state of the air defense system of your republic

                I will look at your publications, now I don’t remember, maybe I just skipped an article
      3. +2
        2 March 2018 10: 15
        Quote: Bongo
        and detects aerial targets using cell towers

        Why not? This is technically feasible.
        We, as far as it is known from open sources, developed the Rubezh complex of NPP Kant for this
        And such work is conducted not only with us
        Here is the French version on a glider:
        1. +4
          2 March 2018 10: 18
          Quote: Spade
          why not? This is technically feasible.

          Dear Lopatov, this system can work anywhere in France, in peacetime , for air traffic control. Its combat stability is zero. How do you expect to issue target designation of IA and ZRV? Can you imagine how this happens in practice?
          1. +1
            2 March 2018 10: 51
            Quote: Bongo
            How do you expect to issue target designation of IA and ZRV?

            And how does radio intelligence carry out this?

            At least three receiving stations remove the directional and elevation. The computer receives data and builds an error figure (on the plane - a triangle of errors)

            Such a system will most likely not give exact coordinates, as well as RTR stations that perform a notch on the radiation of airborne radars. But for guidance, this will be enough. As well as to indicate the air defense system where to look closely.
            1. +4
              2 March 2018 10: 57
              Quote: Spade
              And how does radio intelligence carry out this?

              Lopatov, I am very poorly versed in artillery, but you also have a very superficial understanding of the principles of operation of air defense systems. Passive radio equipment, which by the way is very few in the troops, is unable to give target designation with high accuracy, and in practice they work as a warning device.
              Quote: Spade
              At least three receiving stations remove the directional and elevation. The computer receives data and builds an error figure (on the plane - a triangle of errors)

              In peacetime, as a means of air traffic control. Well then you don’t have to tell why?
              Quote: Spade
              Such a system will most likely not give exact coordinates, as well as RTR stations that perform a notch on the radiation of airborne radars. But for guidance, this will be enough. As well as to indicate the air defense system where to look closely.

              In our conditions, now it is absolutely impossible.
              1. +3
                2 March 2018 11: 31
                Quote: Bongo
                Lopatov, I am very poorly versed in artillery, but you also have a very superficial understanding of the principles of operation of air defense systems. Passive radio equipment, which by the way is very few in the troops, are unable to give target designation with high accuracy

                That’s the problem, that you are poorly versed in artillery. In artillery, the low accuracy of the obtained target coordinates has never been a reason for abandoning them. At least, reconnaissance


                Quote: Bongo
                and in practice they work as a means of warning.

                8)))))
                And what is a "notification tool"? If you provide the IA with information that, for example, in a triangle with sides 10 km there is a target, is this an alert or target designation?

                Quote: Bongo
                In peacetime, as a means of air traffic control. Well then you don’t have to tell why?

                Let me guess why ... Apparently, nowhere to get the money? They swell them into low-current air traffic control devices, when the secondary radar is able to obtain the coordinates and altitude of the aircraft with an accuracy of a meter. And a bunch of other parameters. If you want, even the names of the pilots and the list of passengers 8)))
                1. +2
                  2 March 2018 13: 41
                  Quote: Spade
                  That’s the problem, that you are poorly versed in artillery. In artillery, the low accuracy of the obtained target coordinates has never been a reason for abandoning them. At least, reconnaissance

                  Well, you do not propose replacing radar reconnaissance artillery positions with sound stations?
                  In my time, the main reconnaissance and warning stations were the two-coordinate P-14 and 5Н84A “Defense” meter radars and the decimal P-37. After detecting the target, the height and exact coordinates were specified using PRV-13. After that, these data over the radio network were transmitted directly to the CP ZRBR, ZRP and Zrdn. Under the alert should be understood as a signal of the detection of an air enemy. It seems to me that the accuracy of measuring the range and angular coordinates of meter-wide stations is still higher than that of radio-intelligence equipment.
                  Quote: Spade
                  Let me guess why ... Apparently, nowhere to get the money? They swell them into low-current air traffic control devices, when the secondary radar is able to obtain the coordinates and altitude of the aircraft with an accuracy of a meter. And a bunch of other parameters. If you want, even the names of the pilots and the list of passengers 8)))

                  Well, not only ... add here the stationary placement, extremely low combat survivability and the lack of autonomous power supply of the transmitters. In addition, probably not even the entire European territory of our country is covered by cellular communications, what can we say about Siberia and the Far East.
          2. +1
            2 March 2018 10: 52
            Quote: Bongo
            How do you expect to issue target designation of IA and ZRV?

            And how does radio intelligence carry out this?

            At least three receiving stations remove the directional and elevation. The computer receives data and builds an error figure (on the plane - a triangle of errors)

            Such a system will most likely not give exact coordinates, as well as RTR stations that perform a notch on the radiation of airborne radars. But for guidance, this will be enough. As well as to indicate the air defense system where to look closely.
    2. 0
      4 March 2018 19: 11
      Tu-22M3 are carriers of aeroballistic missiles X-22H and X-32. For what purpose are you interested in autopilots? Have you been to the FSB for a long time?
    3. +1
      7 March 2018 07: 49
      > On what element base are the autopilots of these "new" rockets made?

      What's the problem ? if you are hinting at radiation, then it wouldn’t be a sin to tell you about this clearly, so that you wouldn’t have to guess what your doubt was about, whether it doesn’t exist at all, or if it’s not domestic ...
      So, the element base of the space class should be quite enough for one flight. In space, particle energies are many orders of magnitude greater than from any reactor

      By the time this rocket is developed, a domestic element base suitable for the device will appear.
  5. +6
    2 March 2018 09: 05
    The speed of a medium-range ballistic missile “Dagger” with a detachable warhead is 1,8 km / s, flight time to the target is 20 minutes



    The use of active-passive RGSN allows you to hit mobile surface and ground targets.

    Not a single agreement impedes the deployment of the Dagger aboard surface ships and submarines, including unmanned Status submarines.
    1. 0
      4 March 2018 19: 14
      The Status-6 is not an unmanned submarine, but an unmanned super torpedo with a nuclear power plant and a 100 Mt charge with a cobalt shell.
  6. +7
    2 March 2018 09: 22
    When I watched the video from the speech of the GDP, it seemed to me that our engineers themselves should be surprised at that. what they built ...
  7. +6
    2 March 2018 09: 48
    Well, judging by the comments, there is no “Dagger” - it’s a bluff ... Then is everything else - shown - also? And instead of cheers you have to shout - guard? Somehow too ...
    1. +3
      2 March 2018 10: 11
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, judging by the comments, there is no “Dagger” - it’s a bluff ... Then is everything else - shown - also? And instead of cheers you have to shout - guard? Somehow too ...

      Something is of course. Including new ICBMs, they have been known for a long time, but as for the “flying Chernobyl,” frankly speaking, a similar president was set up here.


      As the head of the Institute of Space Policy, Ivan Moiseyev, told the Insider, nuclear-powered cruise missiles cannot exist in nature. You cannot put a nuclear engine on a cruise missile, and there are no such engines, - the scientist noted. He added that there is one such engine in development, but it is space, no tests could be carried out in 2017. It would be good if such installations were tested in 2027.

      1. +2
        2 March 2018 10: 56
        And what is this institute of space policy?
        Who is financing it?
        1. +6
          2 March 2018 11: 52
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          Who is financing it?

          He is sawing money in Skolkovo 8)))
        2. +3
          2 March 2018 13: 24
          Quote: Alexey Sommer
          And what is this institute of space policy?

          This panimAsh comrades-in-arms of sytiny, amnuel and other evil spirits, throwing Merde on the fan ...
      2. +14
        2 March 2018 11: 01
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        As the head of the Space Policy Institute, Ivan Moiseev, told the Insider publication

        Ivan Mikhailovich Moiseev was born in 1953. In 1981 he graduated from the Moscow Higher Technical School. N.E. Bauman. In 1981 - 1991 he worked as a research fellow at the All-Russian Research Institute of Hoisting and Transport Engineering. In 1991-1992 - an expert of the Working Group under the Government of the Russian Federation. In 1992 - 1993 - engineer at Onyx. In 1994 - expert expert at the Parliamentary Center of the Russian Federation. In 1995 - 1998 - engineer of the Russian Law Academy of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation. Since 1999 - Head of the Space Policy Institute. Scientific director of the Moscow Space Club, expert of the Cosmos Cluster of the Skolkovo Foundation.

        I'm afraid he does not have sufficient knowledge in this area 8))))))))))))))
      3. Ren
        +6
        2 March 2018 11: 20
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Something is of course. Including new ICBMs, they have been known for a long time, but as for the “flying Chernobyl,” frankly speaking, a similar president was set up here.

        Your right not to believe that the tests at the end of September (Kapustin Yar - Chebarkul) showed the opposite. hi
        1. +2
          2 March 2018 11: 23
          Quote: Ren
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Something is of course. Including new ICBMs, they have been known for a long time, but as for the “flying Chernobyl,” frankly speaking, a similar president was set up here.

          Your right not to believe that the tests at the end of September (Kapustin Yar - Chebarkul) showed the opposite. hi

          Is it that a nuclear reactor exploded there? what
          1. Ren
            +1
            2 March 2018 11: 25
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Is it that a nuclear reactor exploded there?

            Seek, yeah, look. laughing (there was a small release of ruthenium, but within normal limits)
            Still, GDP personally came to the test.
            Chelyabinsk car also played with other colors. feel
          2. +1
            2 March 2018 13: 55
            Traces of ruthenium in the air come from the plutonium core of a thermoelectric installation of a French satellite burned in the atmosphere over the Urals.
      4. +5
        2 March 2018 11: 51
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        nuclear-powered cruise missiles cannot exist in nature. You cannot put a nuclear engine on a cruise missile, and there are no such engines, - the scientist noted.

        According to ours, as usual, there is very little information ...
        But here is the American HTRE-3. In iron. And besides, it was successfully tested in 1956.


        Apparently the "scientist" despite a bunch of self-assigned titles is simply not in the know 8)))))))))))
        1. 0
          2 March 2018 13: 43
          Quote: Spade

          Apparently the "scientist" despite a bunch of self-assigned titles is simply not in the know 8)))))))))))

          And what came of this project.
          1. 0
            2 March 2018 13: 45
            6% more in favor
        2. +1
          2 March 2018 23: 04
          Beautiful assembly
      5. +2
        2 March 2018 12: 41
        An insider about a Ukrainian site, an incomprehensible expert in space politics (what kind of nonsense is this, and not an expert), American intelligence confirmed foxnews a test of this rocket in the Arctic. I never thought that Jews (like smart people) would reprint such nonsense.
        1. +1
          4 March 2018 19: 18
          Among the Jews in Israel, a huge percentage of uneducated, mentally retarded and mentally ill people. Information about some kind of extra mental ability of Jews is a myth. The Jews themselves confirmed in one of the experiments that the children of Jewish immigrants who speak Russian are much smarter and smarter than their peers who speak only Hebrew. That's all, little ones.
      6. +16
        2 March 2018 13: 21
        Yesterday, the GDP nobly crushed eggs to homegrown "experts" such as Goltz, Bongo, Moiseev and other copy-pasters of borrowed information without a king in his head.

        Today they, courageously overcoming the pain of crushed eggs, squeak about the impossibility of the Dagger aeroballistic complex and an intercontinental cruise missile with a nuclear power plant.

        Damn, what, the "experts" do not have enough photos of the MiG-31 with the Iskander on the external sling, while the flight range of the latter increases from 500 to 2000 km due to the use of the MiG as the first acceleration step?

        Or is it not clear that a compact plutonium reactor with a liquid metal coolant and a high-speed turboelectric generator is quite suitable as a source of energy for an air propulsion device with an electric drive of an unlimited-range subsonic cruise missile in X-101 dimensions?

        Exactly the same power plant with an electric propeller is installed on an unmanned Status submarine.

        The aforementioned “experts” got worse yesterday from fear for their ignorance in the area where they graze in herds, and today they continue to smash in bricks, trying to deflect the achievements of the Russian military-industrial complex, to which the American military-deities worshiped by them as far as the moon.

        In other words, the United States, Europe, China and all the others lagged behind Russia in the field of nuclear missile weapons forever (until they begin to catch up, we will leave for a new gap).

        Pichalka for "experts" and their sponsors bully
        1. +2
          2 March 2018 13: 44
          Well written :))) drinks
        2. +14
          2 March 2018 13: 46
          Quote: Operator
          Pichalka for "experts" and their sponsors

          You read this, and remember the catch phrase of our Minister of Foreign Affairs ... fool
        3. +2
          2 March 2018 14: 13
          Well written :))) drinks Perhaps even an electric generator is not needed - theoretically, you can insert a reactor heat exchanger directly into a turbojet engine.
          1. +1
            2 March 2018 14: 37
            Then it will be a direct-flow air turbojet engine, the rocket must be accelerated to supersonic speed, and there is nothing to cool the wing edges - there is no liquid fuel as a class on board.

            Therefore, in an intercontinental cruise missile (under the code name "Arctic fox" laughing ) uses a nuclear power plant with a liquid metal coolant (for compactness and quick access to the calculated power mode), a high-speed turbogenerator and an electric motor of an air propulsion device (most likely, turbines with air heating behind it by cooling the coolant).
            1. +1
              2 March 2018 15: 04
              Why direct-flow? Namely - turbojet, i.e. with a turbine. Like on a conventional cruise missile, except that the air in the engine is heated not by burning fuel, but by heating from a heat exchanger.
              1. +2
                2 March 2018 17: 36
                “Turbojet” means the presence of an air turbine that needs to be turned around - nothing can be twisted by direct heat transfer from plutonium. So, we need a coolant that heats and evaporates, turns the coolant turbine, that turns the electric generator, the current from which turns the electric drive of the air turbine.

                It is also possible mechanical drive of an air turbine from a heat transfer turbine through a gearbox.

                Acceleration of a cruise missile to a speed of at least 2000 km / h makes it possible to use a ramjet engine whose chamber is charged by means of high-speed air pressure, and the air in the chamber is heated by heat carrier.

                It is possible that this option was implemented in the Arctic fox - provided that the flight speed does not exceed 2000 km / h, when cooling of the edges of the air intake and wings is not yet required. Highly heat-sensitive liquid metal coolant is the most for this option.
        4. +2
          2 March 2018 21: 15
          I support the previous speaker drinks
      7. +4
        2 March 2018 14: 20
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Something is of course. Including new ICBMs, they have long been known

        What is known about them? What were the throw tests a couple of months ago?
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        here, frankly, they seem to have framed the president.

        And with the cartoon of 2007? And, excuse me, what does it mean "framed"? Who hired these beautiful people?
      8. +1
        2 March 2018 15: 21
        I doubt very much that the head of the institution with the very strange name "Space Policy Institute" may be an expert in this matter. In general, in any developments on the subject, Moses was never seen, and he spent almost all his life in politics.
        But to you from the scientific literature, words are already from experts
        “Manned and unmanned nuclear planes, ramjets and turbojet engines, reactors with air heating or with an intermediate circuit with liquid metal or inert gas, reactors based on thermal and fast neutrons, ceramic fuel elements and fuel elements in metal shells have been developed. Experimental reactors and nuclear rocket engines, space reactors with thermionic emission and thermoelectric converters. The experience of aviation and rocket reactors was used in projects of high-temperature helium reactors for electric power and industrial technologies. Design work was accompanied by experimental-bench testing of technical solutions and basic equipment. Small size. High energy tension and the fast dynamics of these reactors required increased accuracy in predicting neutron-physical, thermohydraulic, and thermal strength parameters and processes. for use in aircraft was determined by the ability to create a compact gamma-neutron protection and ensure radiation safety "
        (c) Grebennik V. N. et al. High-temperature gas-cooled reactors - an innovative direction in the development of nuclear energy - 2008, M, Energoatomizdat.

        Those. in the official literature published by Energoatomizdat, it is said that such engines are already created.
      9. 0
        2 March 2018 23: 03
        The principle of operation is very interesting .. A nuclear ramjet, it’s been tested, a turbojet engine can be delivered ... In the Kyrgyz Republic, subsonic speed and ramjet will be ineffective. I did not hear about nuclear turbojet engines.
      10. +1
        3 March 2018 09: 34
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Including new ICBMs, they have been known for a long time, but as for the “flying Chernobyl,” frankly speaking, a similar president was set up here.
        Two units IL-976 Skip modernized
        At the airfield in Zhukovsky, the IL-976 SKIP aircraft, which received painting after major overhaul and extensive modernization, was registered (registration number 76453, serial number 0063466995, serial number 50-09, built in 1987). Now the plane, having lost the mushroom-shaped antenna of the Bumblebee radar complex, characteristic of the previous SKIPs, bears the inscription of the departmental affiliation Rosatom State Atomic Energy Corporation and the characteristic emblem of the Rostatom structure RFNC-VNIIEF (Russian Federal Nuclear Center - The All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Experimental Physics, located in the closed city of Sarov, Nizhny Novgorod Region)

        The question arises: why did the RFNC need its SKIPs? And the Moscow Defense Forces met its requirements, and so, from THREE IL-976, it gave DVA. There is reason to think.
    2. +1
      2 March 2018 10: 45
      I want to remind you that misinformation, bluffing is also a weapon. A simple example of a bluff with heavy German tanks in front of WWII. Ours fell for him, Marshal Kulik, in particular, the consequences were not good, to say the least!
  8. +1
    2 March 2018 09: 48
    Interestingly, the s-400 will be able to work on such goals?
    1. 0
      2 March 2018 23: 05
      KR with a nuclear engine?
  9. +2
    2 March 2018 10: 09
    with the advent of hypersonic missiles, aircraft carriers as a class of ships can go nowhere, like battleships at one time, or degenerate into something with drones, and very cheap, the loss of which can not be beaten
    1. +1
      2 March 2018 10: 15
      Hypersonic missiles are very expensive and countries that will produce units aircraft carriers are fighting countries like Libya or Iraq
      1. +1
        2 March 2018 11: 44
        How should they be expensive? They took a rocket from the iskander, lifted it into the stratosphere and received hypersound on the same engine due to low air resistance and an additional accelerator. Very budget.
        1. 0
          2 March 2018 14: 29
          Well, can the S-400 work for such purposes?
        2. 0
          2 March 2018 16: 32
          Quote: Midshipman
          got hypersound. Very budget.

          And thermal insulation, and communication - target designation?
      2. +1
        2 March 2018 13: 37
        The 31 momentum accelerates to 3M, the Iskander rocket is about the same. Add 3 + 3, we get 6, plus 1 due to the low resistance of the medium, total 7. Such a hypersonic is normal, and already serial :)
        1. 0
          2 March 2018 14: 29
          There seems to be 10 mach and not 3 + 3
        2. Don
          +5
          2 March 2018 18: 22
          Quote: Midshipman
          The 31 momentum accelerates to 3M, the Iskander rocket is about the same. Add 3 + 3, we get 6, plus 1 due to the low resistance of the medium, total 7. Such a hypersonic is normal, and already serial :)

          forgot the fair wind add to speed lol
  10. +14
    2 March 2018 10: 49
    When Putin spoke about Russia's new weapons, did I alone laugh like a horse from utter nonsense? These are not even fairy tales; they are some kind of myths and legends.
    1. +14
      2 March 2018 11: 45
      Looks like one :)
    2. +2
      2 March 2018 12: 44
      Armed with the rocket myth, are you okay? Even with nuclear stuffing, the American intelligence confirmed foxnews, though they said that the launches in the Arctic ended unsuccessfully
      1. +2
        2 March 2018 14: 59
        Quote: RedFox11
        Armed rocket myth

        You are worried, it seems.
        At the end of 2017, the successful launch of the latest Russian cruise missile with a nuclear power plant took place at the Central training ground of the Russian Federation. During the flight, the power plant reached the set power, provided the necessary level of thrust.

        The missile launch and ground-based testing complex allow us to move on to the creation of a fundamentally new type of weapon - a strategic complex of nuclear weapons with a missile equipped with a nuclear power plant.

        Already what the grandfather is a storyteller, but until "put into service" has not agreed yet.
        Quote: Bronevick
        When Putin spoke about Russia's new weapons, did I alone laugh like a horse from utter nonsense?

        What did you expect from him?
    3. Don
      +9
      2 March 2018 18: 25
      Treat Putin’s speech as a confirmation of the old truth that they never lie so much as before the election and fishing. wink
      1. +2
        3 March 2018 11: 18
        Quote: Donskoy
        never lie as much as before the election

        What kind of election? Or does he think fishing?
  11. +3
    2 March 2018 10: 53
    Quote: andrewkor
    I will also assume that the B-52 from Mojave will be removed

    Little. In the B-52G 9 variant, not capable of carrying the ALCM) - about fifty. B-52N - missile carriers - 12-13. And from 4 to 16 V-1V to those 67 that they have

    Quote: Operator
    Not a single agreement impedes the deployment of the Dagger aboard surface ships and submarines, including unmanned Status submarines.

    If you carefully read the OSV-2 treaty, and all subsequent treaties confirm in one way or another the parameters of the previous ones and nothing that was forbidden in particular by this treaty was not created, you will see that it and START-1 contain a ban on the creation and deployment of aeroballistic missiles with a flight range of more than 600 km. And despite the fact that the term of the Protocol on them has long expired - DO NOT CREATE. The same was a ban on ballistic missiles with the same range on ships (vessels) other than submarines. That is, on the submarine you can deploy these missiles. on airplanes and surface ships - no. The authors of the report strongly framed Putin. That he declares that we do not violate any contracts, then voicing TTX "Dagger" declares another
    1. 0
      7 March 2018 08: 17
      > there is a ban on the creation and deployment of aeroballistic missiles with a range of more than 600 km. The authors of the report have strongly set up Putin.

      But is there a boundary between an aeroaballistic missile capable of maneuvering over the entire portion of the trajectory and a hypersonic missile whose engine has been running for some time?
  12. +4
    2 March 2018 10: 54
    In the immediate vicinity of the battlefield, where the enemy’s naval compound is located, the “Dagger” will fall into the range of the RIM-161B / RIM-174 REAM missiles of the Aegis systems and AN / SPY-1D radars. Here, in favor of our hypersonic “killer of aircraft carriers”, such advantages as ultra-low EPR (approximately corresponding to the radar signature of 9M723-1 missiles of the Iskander-M complex), a huge flight speed of 10500 km / h (taking away precious seconds from the Aegis operators) will play to “tie the track of the target” and “capture”), as well as the possible implementation of anti-aircraft maneuvers with overloads of more than 30 - 35 units. This will not allow it to be intercepted not only on the descending branch of the trajectory in the thermosphere / upper layers of the stratosphere using the exoatmospheric combat stages Mk 142, but also in denser layers of the atmosphere using anti-aircraft missile interceptors RIM-174 ERAM (“Standard Missile-6”) and RIM-162 ESSM, unable to work on such maneuverable objects


    An interesting assumption, though not supported by anything, except for the author's conclusions.
  13. +7
    2 March 2018 10: 55
    It was worth Putin to speak and so many poop surfaced in VO that it was impossible to imagine.
    How many disguised "patriots" are already sitting here!
  14. +3
    2 March 2018 11: 21
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Including new ICBMs, they have been known for a long time, but as for the “flying Chernobyl,” frankly speaking, a similar president was set up here.

    So fiction and animation

    http://k-politika.ru/bez-ogranichenij-po-dalnosti
    /?utm_source=warfiles.ru
    ...
    According to experts, these systems are weapons of deterrence. They use air heated by a nuclear power plant to move.
    According to experts, we are talking about a product with an index of 9M730, developed by OKB "Innovator". In an endangered period, such missiles can be lifted into the air and put into designated areas. From there, they will be able to hit important enemy targets.
    ...
    “There are special compartments on the sides of the rocket with powerful and compact heaters operating from a nuclear power plant,” the expert noted. - They get atmospheric air, which heats up to several thousand degrees and turns into a working body of the engine. Leaking hot air creates traction. Such a system really provides an almost unlimited range.
    ...
  15. +1
    2 March 2018 11: 28
    In theory, after such articles, if they are placed on European and American resources, a mass exodus from the armies of the NATO countries should begin in view of the contingent's understanding of the complete futility of their existence.
    And on the borders with the Baltic Limitrophs, there should generally be queues of people wishing to surrender in advance to the Chukhons.
  16. +1
    2 March 2018 11: 50
    Not special even once, but didn’t the Americans on Gerald Ford break their teeth on electromagnetic catapults?
    I remember that the weakest point was precisely in them, and they brought it to mind long before (and did it?).
  17. +2
    2 March 2018 12: 07
    Election promises aimed at a very specific target audience.
  18. +7
    2 March 2018 12: 40
    Just the case when they try to compensate for the lack of knowledge with an excess of "enthusiasm" Well, Putin is allowed. Election speech, after all. And before choosing what you just can’t say and you won’t promise. Although the one who palms him like a bullshit needs to be put against the wall ... with indicators of scientific and technological progress and ask a couple of nice questions not to face.
    1. +4
      2 March 2018 13: 04
      I see a lot of such strange comments, the same foxnews source in American intelligence specializing in Russian weapons confirmed the fact of testing a rocket with a nuclear engine in the Arctic, though he said that the tests failed, if this rocket exists then there are others. Why is there such disbelief in Russian scientists and designers.
      1. +4
        2 March 2018 13: 12
        Yes there are. But still, their characteristics are far from those declared by your leadership. If your scientists had advanced, this would have surfaced in the scientific community, at conferences, etc., the awl in a bag cannot be hidden. There is great doubt in the central cloud in the plasma cloud., This is all unstable and in limited modes.
        1. +7
          2 March 2018 13: 17
          Your commentary reminded Amer’s hysteria in 1961 when Yu. Gagarin flew into space first.
          So there then similar doubts were cited, based on their own arrogant conceit ....
          Not all smart heads changed their homeland for a passport with a residence permit in the promised land.
          1. +2
            2 March 2018 13: 23
            Well yes. But the story began earlier. In sharashka. Are you talking about this? Really believe that no one in the West knew about the Queen's plans?
            1. +7
              2 March 2018 13: 31
              Are you up to date with scarab stories? Or was it a whim of L.P. Beria?
              By the way, it was under his general leadership that the USSR was able to quickly acquire nuclear weapons.
              The tests were conducted on Novaya Zemlya. The partners saw what they were given to see. And then - a field for an extensive fantasy from the theme "We are the most, the most ..."
        2. +5
          2 March 2018 14: 16
          Quote: Shahno
          Yes there are. But still, their characteristics are far from those declared by your leadership. If your scientists had advanced, this would have surfaced in the scientific community, at conferences, etc., the awl in a bag cannot be hidden. There is great doubt in the central cloud in the plasma cloud., This is all unstable and in limited modes.

          Enough, conferred, do not wait for a freebie.
        3. +5
          2 March 2018 19: 56
          Quote: Shahno
          Yes there are. But still, their characteristics are far from those declared by your leadership. If your scientists had advanced, this would have surfaced in the scientific community, at conferences, etc., the awl in a bag cannot be hidden. There is great doubt in the central cloud in the plasma cloud., This is all unstable and in limited modes.

          are you stupid?
          which conferences, these are closed design bureaus, such scientists are not visiting and few know their names
      2. +2
        2 March 2018 16: 02
        After Putin’s speech, a group of Russian scientists said that there wasn’t and is not expected to be any vigorous engine for cruise missiles. There is one vigorous engine for heavy space rockets in development, but how soon it will be born and whether it will appear at all is difficult to say.
        And further. There have already been cases in history when individual leaders of individual states have relied on some sort of “wunderwaffe”. And the same story showed that it did not end with anything other than a wild waste of resources and putting human civilization on the brink of extinction. Those. there can be no winners in a war using all these vigorous and not only vigorous horror stories. So what for all these songs. Scare America? So she can really shoot with fright. And we are in response. And who will evaluate the results of the process? Which of the sofa "ikspertov" who will have time to hide under the sofa?
        1. +8
          2 March 2018 17: 42
          Quote: gregor6549
          a group of Russian scientists

          With permanent residence in Israel laughing
        2. +3
          2 March 2018 21: 08
          These were British scientists.
  19. 0
    2 March 2018 12: 58
    Yeah interesting! The nuclear engine, as I understand it, is similar to the ion engines of spacecraft! So there is a penny thrust! This is how much power it must be in order to lift itself and disperse! Big doubt! Most likely they just slipped a duck to our Chief! And the rest is real!
    1. 0
      2 March 2018 14: 16
      perhaps it’s only there as a subsonic marching engine, with emphasis on efficiency
    2. +1
      3 March 2018 23: 14
      Quote: Eugene 1475
      The nuclear engine, as I understand it, is similar to the ion engines of spacecraft!

      You misunderstand, no semblance of an ion engine, just a working fluid is heated by nuclear energy.
  20. +3
    2 March 2018 13: 07
    Let’s not forget, however, that the West comes first with BUSINESS. Yes, the Americans built dozens of super duper aircraft carriers that the AH cannot go to sea, then deadwood flows, or toilets burst. But the loot that loot has already been capitalized. And what's the point in an aircraft carrier if an inhabited frigate with hypersonic rockets floats in space ?? The rocket will overcome 100 km in 36 seconds. There is already nuclear dvigun, so it’s evident that the time is near when the Russian LAPOT will endlessly be in the tropo and other areas. Whoever does not understand this is already behind, although of course the dough can be raised at the construction of aircraft carriers more than on something more complicated.
  21. +5
    2 March 2018 13: 22
    Quote: DimerVladimer
    Quote: SSI
    Rather, on the contrary, he himself does not understand anything ....


    Especially about the small-sized nuclear engine for cruise missiles ...
    The effect of the destruction of which by radioactive contamination will exceed the effect of the explosion of a wearable nuclear charge ...


    Which of this is fantastic? In the USSR, at one time they created a reactor for nuclear engines measuring 100 * 50 cm. In the middle of the last century.
    Regarding such engines these days, work has been conducted since 2010. Here is a quote:

    Since 2010, Russia began work on a project of a megawatt-class nuclear electric propulsion system (YEDU) for space transport systems. According to the director and general designer of NIKIET OJSC, Yuri Dragunov, whose enterprise is designing the reactor installation, according to the plan for nuclear power plants should be ready in 2018. At the beginning of 2016, preliminary design, design documentation were completed, tests of the reactor control system were completed, TVEL tests were carried out, reactor shell tests were conducted, full-scale models of radiation protection of the reactor installation were tested.

    Other countries are also working on this:

    In November 2017, the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) published a roadmap for the development of China's space program for the period 2017–2045. It provides, in particular, the creation of a reusable ship operating on a nuclear rocket engine.

    In February 2018, there were reports that NASA was resuming research on a nuclear rocket engine

    That is, there’s nothing like that, and we weren’t the first to announce it. In the USSR, we simply stopped financing this program in the 80s against the backdrop of Chernobyl, and so a working prototype was ready, there were tests in Semipalatinsk. And it could be so already in the order of things it would be to fly into space on nuclear traction.
    1. +1
      2 March 2018 13: 28
      That's it for spacecraft! And how to put on a cruise missile!
      1. +1
        2 March 2018 13: 34
        It’s not possible ... We are testing an ion engine at 200km this month, but in the atmosphere, at supersonic sound. Well, what are the dimensions of the installation?
        1. +8
          2 March 2018 14: 19
          Rest after yesterday, all brilliant ideas come in a dream, maybe you’ll be lucky. hi
  22. 0
    2 March 2018 14: 30
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: SSI
    Thank you for your support!

    Sergey Ivanovich, I acknowledge your vast experience, balanced position, and competent comments. hi But this is not only the point, because there were times when we disagreed. I believe that authors published on VO required be responsible for the accuracy of the information!

    . *. but can you still have the key to the apartment where the money is .. *
    1. +4
      3 March 2018 02: 36
      Quote: ver_
      but can you still have the key to the apartment where the money is .. *

      Those. can i lie
  23. +1
    2 March 2018 15: 32
    Quote: RedFox11
    I see a lot of such strange comments, the same foxnews source in American intelligence specializing in Russian weapons confirmed the fact of testing a rocket with a nuclear engine in the Arctic, though he said that the tests failed, if this rocket exists then there are others. Why is there such disbelief in Russian scientists and designers.


    Why doesn't it exist? The development of such a rocket has essentially been underway since the 60s of the last century.

    RD0410. Nuclear rocket engine. Promising spacecraft
    1. Completed the development of the units of the CGM "cold" engine in NIIKHIMmash with a thermal simulator of a nuclear reactor. Number of starts - 230, total operating time 169900 s.
    2. Research of neutron-physical characteristics of the reactor and shielding at IPPE and IAE at the reactor of "zero" power was carried out.
    3. A series of fire tests of the reactor at the Semipalatinsk nuclear test site was carried out.
    Nuclear rocket engine made in a closed circuit
    (c) site of the Design Bureau of Chemical Automation, OJSC
    And this is only official infa and only about those tests that were completed in the 80s
  24. +3
    2 March 2018 15: 35
    Quote: Xscorpion
    Since 2010, Russia began work on a project of a megawatt-class nuclear electric propulsion system (YEDU) for space transport systems.


    A megawatt class nuclear power system is created for TEM and has nothing to do with the "nuclear missile" announced by Putin. There YaEDU + several tens of ion exchangers and only for space applications.
    Putin’s “nuclear missile” is more specifically a missile with nuclear engine - this is not the same as YaEDU
  25. 0
    2 March 2018 15: 38
    Quote: Shahno
    If your scientists advanced, it would pop up in the scientific community, at conferences


    Of course, this is in the scientific community and conferences, but not in those and not in those to which the broad masses of the population have access.
  26. +1
    2 March 2018 15: 39
    Quote: Lex.
    Interestingly, the s-400 will be able to work on such goals?


    No, the C400 will not be able to intercept such targets.
  27. +2
    2 March 2018 15: 40
    What the hell is an aircraft carrier to us, when did the missiles show which missiles laughing
  28. +1
    2 March 2018 15: 49
    Quote: Operator
    Exactly the same power plant with an electric propeller is installed on an unmanned Status submarine.


    I know directly what the status of the Status project is, and I’ll say that the bench complex where the reactor for the Status will be tested is still under construction.
    1. +1
      2 March 2018 17: 51
      Status's energy source is not a classic nuclear reactor, but just a monolithic fuel element - a plutonium ball the size of an orange weighing 5 kg.

      The ball is cooled in a standard way for the Russian defense industry (as in the world's only series of Soviet nuclear submarines of the 705 project) - a stream of liquid metal (lead), which in turn is cooled by gas fired in a gas turbine with direct drive of an electric generator that generates current for the propeller motor .

      The chip of the "Status" technical solution is only in the type of ceramic protection of the plutonium ball from contact with liquid metal.
    2. +1
      2 March 2018 19: 26
      We believe, we believe - not everything is so simple ...
  29. +4
    2 March 2018 15: 55


    guns instead of oil
    1. +1
      2 March 2018 18: 51
      Bondarev said today at RIA Novosti that the Kyrgyz Republic with a vigorous engine and the Vanguard system are expected to be up to 10 years, so it’s not soon but the Dagger is already quite combat-ready
  30. 0
    2 March 2018 20: 00
    remember at the end of autumn Europe screamed about the leaks of radioactive contamination in Russia
    so most likely it was a nuclear rocket test
  31. +1
    2 March 2018 20: 04
    The commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Sergey Surovikin, called the staff index “Dagger” - X-47М2.
    1. 0
      2 March 2018 21: 33
      It’s interesting, however, that they showed more than 2 times longer than 3 meters which the Commander-in-Chief declared. Maybe for the Su-57 - another smaller product
      1. +2
        2 March 2018 22: 41
        3 meters is the length of a detachable warhead.
  32. 0
    2 March 2018 23: 02
    Danila75,
    The operation of "Sarmatians" in mines in our territory is three orders of magnitude cheaper than the operation of "Statuses" in the oceans.
  33. 0
    3 March 2018 02: 52
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: ver_
    but can you still have the key to the apartment where the money is .. *

    Those. can i lie

    ..so exactly- * .. the talker is a godsend for the spy * .., and fantasies and fiction - well, it’s very entertaining to read fiction .., and without negative consequences .. - and are not subject to ban ...
  34. +3
    3 March 2018 13: 03
    Quote: Operator
    Status's energy source is not a classic nuclear reactor, but just a monolithic fuel element - a plutonium ball the size of an orange weighing 5 kg.
    .


    Who told you such nonsense? 5 kg per 8 megawatt reactor?
    The reactor for the Status weighs several tons, and the torpedo itself - tens of tons. A building the size of a large shopping center is being built under the bench complex for this reactor (you yourself can drive up to NITI and see it from far away).
    1. +1
      4 March 2018 21: 37
      Yes, "Status-6" in terms of mass-dimensional characteristics, approximately like the T-15. Those. about 30 tons. and 1.5-2 m in diameter.
    2. +2
      4 March 2018 23: 06
      The thermal power of a nuclear reactor of a supersonic cruise missile can be estimated at 10000 MW - a trifling matter for 5 kg of plutonium.

      Several years ago, Rosatom demonstrated microTVELs in a carbon-carbon shell coated externally with silicon carbide (to protect against oxidation). The cruise missile reactor can be assembled from such micro-fuel elements cooled by liquid lead.

      In addition to a shielded reactor and a lead coolant, the nuclear power plant includes a thermionic panel (electric generator, it is also a lead / air heat exchanger) and a linear electric motor for circulating lead. All this fits perfectly into the 1,5-2 tons of weight saved on the lack of kerosene - the fuel of the X-101-analogue rocket with turbojet engine.

      The ramjet engine itself with air heating from the reactor itself weighs less than the turbojet engine.

      The same nuclear reactor located on Status will additionally require a second combined cycle gas turbine-electric generator drive, a heat exchanger with overboard water pumping, plus a low-speed electric motor for a gearless propeller drive, plus a reactor power control device (absorber rods and their mechanism movement).

      That is why the “Status” propulsion and propulsion system is an order of magnitude larger and heavier than the propulsion and propulsion system of a cruise missile with the same nuclear reactor.
      1. +1
        5 March 2018 00: 06
        10000 kW, not MW
      2. 0
        5 March 2018 00: 08
        But in the dimensions of the KR, it will be very "dirty" ... If the "super torpedo" can be equipped with a fire protection, then on the device the total weight is less than 5 tons, alas.
        1. +1
          5 March 2018 02: 20
          I agree - 10000 kW (10 MW).

          The reactor core with 5 kg of plutonium will have the size of an orange, which significantly reduces the linear dimensions of the radiation screen, for example from beryllium. Plus the shielding properties of a lead coolant shirt. Plus, one can neglect radiation directed not toward the warhead of the cruise missile, where the warhead and control equipment are located - the maximum distance of neutrons in air does not exceed 2 km.
  35. +1
    4 March 2018 21: 35
    Further development of the X-15C on a new base. It’s quite reasonable.
  36. +1
    5 March 2018 15: 40
    DimerVladimer,
    20 - this is based on the denunciation of the contract (from the United States, of course laughing )
  37. +1
    6 March 2018 09: 55
    DimerVladimer,
    in the same area in the EURT

    So "show concern" for the population.
  38. 0
    6 March 2018 16: 05
    I understand, of course, that anyone can offend the author, but the Tomahawks flying from the North Atlantic to our southern military district? What does the author smoke? The range of the latest modification of the tomahawk with the “light” apple is just over 2000 km ... not enough will reach. Patriot Pac 3 and 35 km of interception altitude ??! Even more nonsense, there is the whole chip in the new ERINT ballistic missile near-missile with a target hit height of 20 km. A standard mim 104 is shot at planes with a target hit height of 24 km ..
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  40. +1
    7 March 2018 12: 02
    Well, by the number of product designations and their fragments, Damantsev is immediately visible.
    Quote: xtur
    But is there a boundary between an aeroaballistic missile capable of maneuvering over the entire portion of the trajectory and a hypersonic missile whose engine has been running for some time?

    Aeroballistic called a "classic" rocket, no difference, supersonic or hypersonic with a rocket engine. But if there will be a ramjet engine on the rocket, and there will also be aerodynamic planes - then it will be a cruise missile and will not be subject to restrictions. So far, all of our developments - both the X-15 and the Krechet - were all aeroballistic missiles (otherwise they are referred to in the agreement as "air-to-ground ballistic missiles. If something like" Iskander "- with such a range this is a direct violation If a case is just a casing covering something like this, that’s another matter.


    Quote: Operator
    DimerVladimer,
    20 - this is based on the denunciation of the contract (from the United States, of course laughing )

    Andrew. But you forget only one thing. Denunciation of the treaty is an opportunity for Americans to do what they cannot do now. And given their industrial and economic potential, one can easily predict that for each exotic weapon system deployed by us in the amount of 10 pieces, they will be deployed in the amount of hundreds. The SALT / START treaty will “fly” - flights and INF. And what will we do if not only in Italy, Belgium, weekly land, Britain and the Federal Republic of Germany will be deployed RSD? And in Turkey, Romania, Hungary, Poland, the Baltic states, Japan .... What will we do with our 20 heads on a rocket when we are covered with missiles from all sides ??? Hope for 20 warheads? Stupid and short-sighted. You must hold on to the contract until the last. We are not so strong as to compete in the new arms race with the whole world. In the days of the Union, 2–3 divisions of 3–4 regimental personnel were re-equipped at a PGRK per year. Now we are reequipping the division for 2-3 years. Is this talking about something ???
    1. 0
      10 March 2018 22: 56
      > Denunciation of the treaty is an opportunity for Americans to do what they cannot do now. And taking into account their industrial and economic potential, one can easily predict that for every exotic weapon system deployed by us in the amount of 10 pieces, they will deploy in the amount of hundreds

      for so many years that I have been observing US foreign policy, I am convinced that they will only fulfill the agreement if the balance is in their favor. So, if they do not withdraw from the contracts, then they see more advantages for themselves in this than in a situation where there will be no contracts.

      Therefore, the question of withdrawing from contracts or not is not at all easy to analyze, kmk
      1. 0
        10 March 2018 23: 22
        Everything is simpler - Sarmat will have 10 BB each, while the US is complying with the START treaty, and Sarmat will have 20 BB each if the US violates or withdraws from the START treaty.

        Such an incentive.
  41. 0
    9 March 2018 09: 12
    Which aircraft carrier? These tales are tired of ... still say your favorite phrase "which has no analogues in the world." We are building destroyers for 8 years, and then the aircraft carrier ... yes, with our level of corruption, kickbacks and theft, it will cost a pretty penny, we will also drop off for completion, but we don’t want to hear about the su-57k, even if the usual version will launch a series
  42. 0
    10 March 2018 13: 54
    Well, you tell me, all the same, all-crawlers again ached. Yes, we will have the declared aircraft carrier "Storm" because it is needed at least to prevent the United States from unpunished passage across the Atlantic to Europe .. We will simply block their path to prevent another war in Europe.

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