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Who will lift our Crimea?

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In the ministerial circles of the Crimea split. The Ministry of Resorts and Tourism was divided into two camps. And now two groups of officials drag the tourist rope, arranging the infamous "push-and-pull" instead of working to develop the hospitality industry. It looks especially funny in an important election year, secondly, and after the disastrous last year - firstly.

Meanwhile, the situation is not improving at all. The industry is swinging very slowly, and the tourism industry is looking at the industry and is also not in a hurry.

We will try to show you the situation from the inside (from the market participant), and from the outside (from the consumer of tourist services).

Open Crimea?

More recently, 20 February, opened a tourism forum "Open Crimea". If we wrote that February 20 opened the tourism exhibition "Open Crimea", we would not have lied: the Ministry of Tourism could not decide on the name of the event.

The website of the Ministry says about the forum.



And on the site of the tourist center of the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism, this is already called an exhibition.



Apparently, for one ministerial clan this is a whole forum, and for another - an ordinary exhibitor. We will not know this, but the feeling that something is wrong in the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism of Crimea is clear.

Then another oddity. It turns out that the forum-exhibition is not held in one place, as is usually the case in view of simplifying the logistics of exhibitors and participants (some of which are not from the Crimea).

The forum-exhibition is broken into two (again) parts: one site in Simferopol, the second in Yalta. The public, to put it mildly, is not thrilled with such “blurring”, but what to do: the clan war does not ask the public, especially when it is being redistributed.

The statement of the new Minister of Tourism of the Republic Vadim Volchenko, speaking before a half-empty conference hall in Simferopol, looked funny: "We organized such a large-scale tourist forum for the first time in the capital of Crimea, in a new international exhibition center, and this is a small revolution for the tourist industry."

This remark is like a black mark for the opposing clan, which did the exhibition in the old manner in Intourist’s moor Yalta, and the words about the “little revolution” as if should convey the idea of ​​seriousness to competitors.

New Old Expocentre

Separately, it should be said about the “new international exhibition center”. The story about him needs to start as early as the 6 century, from stories Tauris

Long ago, in the Middle Ages, Byzantines began to master the mountainous regions of the Crimea. On high peaks, military architects cocked cave cities, turning the pagan temples of the Taurians into ruins. One of the most vivid examples of such cities is the site of ancient settlement Mangup, on which the principality of Theodoro was located in those years.

In one of the hundreds of caves in this city, you can easily see how the purpose of the voids carved in the stone changed over time. From the place where grain was stored, the cave turned into a stall for sheep and goats, then after a year it became a barn for storing household utensils, and after a while - a Christian temple.

Similarly, the premise in which the Connect Center exhibition center in Simferopol is located was a few years ago the building shop Nova Linia of ancient ukrov who dug out the sea. For us, for example, curiosity became the main motive for visiting the exhibition-forum: how can a shopping center on the outskirts of the bypass road be turned into an exhibition center?


The transformation of the shopping center in the exhibition

This exhibition center unexpectedly appeared quite recently. And it was made by a team led by a Canadian Frenchman, whose name is Cedric William Bell. Eight years ago, he met Krymchanka Eugenia, married her and moved to Crimea. Cedric's team has been publishing the Crimea Holiday magazine for several years and organizing wine festivals.

Yes, Mr. Minister!

Who will lift our Crimea?

Ex-Minister of Resorts and Tourism of Kazakhstan S. Strelbitsky

During the time when Crimea was part of Russia as Minister of Tourism, three people have already visited. About the first, or rather, the first, Elena Yurchenko, is no longer interesting to talk about. The second, Sergey Strelbitsky, was remembered by the fact that instead of developing tourism on the peninsula, he created various associations of tour operators with paid membership, and the minister’s favorite occupation was pathetic speaking at tourist exhibitions of solemn speeches in the spirit of “We are pleased to inform you that this year Crimea visited 5 million man, it's 500 thousand more than the previous one! ”

Although they have always waited for the development strategy of the industry, but, unfortunately, they did not wait. I remember that we asked Strelbitsky to work together with tour operators bringing Chinese to the Crimea, normative documents regulating the behavior of guides in the republic, even proposed a bill. But they could not persuade them to take up this business. And to the free help in translating the materials of the ministry into Chinese, he generally responded with his charming smile and took up other issues. And the Chinese are very not weak interest in the Crimea, and in historical terms. And we are ready to go in droves and pay.

Needless to say, what is the crowd of Chinese who want to look at the historic dacha of the teacher of the great Mao? In quantitative terms?


Acting Minister of Resorts and Tourism of the Republic of Kazakhstan V. Volchenko

The new minister, Vadim Volchenko, in his speech, addressed mainly to journalists, and not to the visitors of the forum-exhibition, spoke about his hopes for the best. And when he recently stated that in 2017, the Crimea was visited by 5 million, the audience was overwhelmed with a sense of deja vu, only a charming smile was missing.

Exhibition

We will not talk about holding an exhibition forum at the Intourist Hotel, since this is a common post-Soviet tradition that is not outstanding. We are interested in exactly the Simferopol component.

The exhibition and forum in the new exhibition center "Connect center" was organized at the level of student initiatives. There were three zones: the main stage at the entrance, the congress hall with speakers and directly the zone with exhibition stands. The person who first appeared in this building, it was very difficult to figure out where that. Navigation let down. We saw a lot of people rushing around the corridors of the former shopping center.

A separate item was the issuance of badges to participants. They were given out almost in the middle of the day, as there were difficulties with the designers and the organizers could not bring the handouts in time.


Congress Hall with main speakers

The start was also impressive. It seems that the first important event was the opening of the forum, but the people at the main stage were very few. We walked into the hall, where serious people sat in front of the half-filled chairs (minister, head of Rostourism, permanent representative of Crimea to the president), and very quietly and uninterestingly talked about idle things, including the prices for air travel to Crimea, which this year were just space.

It was surprising that the people occupying key positions in the locomotive of development of the peninsula did not have their eyes at all. They were more like tired of the routine activities of the nomenklatura officials of the district center. On the huge screens behind the backs of the speakers, throughout their “conversational performance” hung the frozen “Open Crimea” inscription, without being replaced by any slides of a beautiful future, or even views of the Black Sea. Everything was very formal.


Main stage and absence of spectators

"Fun" was at the main stage. There were presentations of innovative projects that have already begun to change the tourism industry of the Crimea. Young guys from Siberia and Chernozem region told about the site with artificial intelligence, which selects the Crimean offers for tourists as accurately as possible, allowing you to plan your trip “from time to time” in terms of time and money.

The performances at the stage were much more alive than the monotonous speech of distinguished speakers in the congress hall. But it struck us that this main stage did not have a single viewer! The organizers could not properly distribute the flow of visitors. Almost no one came to the speakers, because it was far away, and no one lingered at the stage, perceiving it as a secondary platform.

On the same stage, the project of the information portal about Crimea in 4 languages ​​was presented. Led the presentation of St. Petersburg in Russian, Italian, French and English. The development of the news portal, breaking through the international information blockade of the Crimea, according to logic, should have been discussed with the ministers as the main strategists of the industry. But the presentation was held in the void, in the lobby with rare spectators.

Given that participation in the exhibition was paid, the speakers were humiliated in full - both materially and morally. As a result, money for participating in the forum was wasted, and interesting presentations were made in the humiliating atmosphere of the absence of spectators, with the success provided by the organizers - the Crimean Ministry of Tourism. I wonder if the speakers in Rospotrebnadzor will serve for the service, which is not fully provided?

Boiled over



It is interesting whether the leadership of the peninsula understands that while they will openly “merge” the most important forums and exhibitions devoted to the republic’s main potential, tourism, the Crimea will remain a “catching dead end” - a place where state employees go for a vacation on holiday tickets, grandmothers, not carrying air travel, and poor students who do not have enough money for Turkey or Egypt?

Although, I'm sorry, enough. This we overdo it slightly. Alas, but the fact that at a cost the Crimea is again ahead of the rest of the world and only urgent barriers against Turkey, Egypt and Thailand can save the 2018 season.

And we are all calm. All the same.

And whose Crimea is in terms of forgetting about the prices of air carriers, for example, and banks in particular?

The naked eye can see how much power ministerial officials are spending on the internal power struggle, totally ignoring their responsibilities, bringing strategic events to commonplaceness.

Statistics tourist flow to the Crimea is not an indicator of the success of the Ministry of Tourism. And it should be voiced by extras, secretaries, deputies, but not the minister. The minister must issue a strategy that will lead 10, 20 million tourists to the peninsula. The minister should draw incredible prospects, images of the Crimea of ​​the future, in which the beaches are perfect, the staff is talented, the prices are democratic ...

The Minister of Tourism of the Crimea should not attribute the services of the Kerch Bridge and the Taurida Route to the merits of his department: all these megaprojects were created by a large Russia. And republican managers should, using this chance, build a garden city on the peninsula. Not less!

I would like to appeal to the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism of the Republic of Crimea. If you are deaf to small business, which is the core of the development of territories in successful cities of Russia, then at least listen to the presidential decrees, which have already set the only right direction. Why take up something that you dislike? In general, as the People would say, development or death!

And the beaches this year will show how we were wrong ...
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  1. Esoteric
    Esoteric 2 March 2018 06: 39
    +3
    Our Crimea will increase the availability of leisure in it for most Russians and an acceptable price-quality-service ratio ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 07: 12
      +18
      Quote: Esoteric
      Our Crimea will increase the availability of leisure in it for most Russians and an acceptable price-quality-service ratio ...

      right now I’ll give my pension for a communal apartment in February, and for the rest of the money, I’ll break into the Crimea ... affordable ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 March 2018 07: 44
        +16
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        right now I’ll give my pension for a communal apartment in February,

        Moreover, our communal apartment is growing far ahead of official inflation. And complaints to the antimonopoly committee remain unanswered. hi
      2. K.A.S.
        K.A.S. 2 March 2018 09: 24
        +4
        how many people do you live and have?
        yes Crimea available. You can rest for 80-100 families!
        and better than any Turkey, because unlike Turkey you don’t sit on the reservation
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 09: 34
          +20
          Quote: K.A.S.
          yes Crimea available. You can rest for 80-100 families!

          belay pension for 8-9 months ... provided that you do not eat or pay a communal apartment ...
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 2 March 2018 09: 52
            +4
            Explain how a pensioner if he lives alone, or together with his wife can have a communal apartment for 10000! I think you are cunning. You do not live alone! because such a rent is possible only if not many people live and enjoy the benefits of civilization to the fullest so that the meter does not stop! or the area of ​​your apartment is like a stadium! need to live within our means! Do you offer to pay to the state all who live with you?
            I have parents for kopeck piece w / p pay 4 with a penny in the winter. we paid 5 this month, but we live in three. daughter lives separately paid 2t.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 10: 48
              +17
              Quote: K.A.S.
              Explain how a pensioner if he lives alone, or together with his wife can have a communal apartment for 10000! I think you are cunning.

              it’s easy ... I showed a receipt there, four people are registered (where will I get the children, do they live without a residence permit? They rent housing in the regional center, we don’t have a job ... and of course you have to change the housing, who will register there?) so I don’t “dissemble”, you just don’t know the modern realities of life, “in the area” with killed enterprises. at what the latter were finished off under Soltselik, about three years ago ...
              1. K.A.S.
                K.A.S. 2 March 2018 11: 02
                +5
                Well, why are you outraged. how much lives for so much and pay. probably no counters? pay at the rate of consumption per meter! That's what I like in people so instead of solving the problem they start whining !!!
                I, for example, also registered with my parents. but they don’t pay so much!
                I know reality no worse than you. And enough to crave about the enterprise, the chicken that carries the golden eggs does not cut. and if they slaughtered then the eggs were bad.
                1. Andrey Yuryevich
                  Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 11: 08
                  +11
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  That's what I like in people so instead of solving the problem they start whining !!!

                  smart-offer a solution. to expel children? to kill? refuse? "everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side ..."
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  I, for example, also registered with my parents. but they don’t pay so much!

                  doesn’t it come to mind that the authorities and the regions are different? and deal with them, how? we have two houses of the same three floors, two porches, on the contrary, everyone roars the third winter, what's the point? not breakable everything! absolutely! local kings in the form of "heating centers" - with a thorn and with protection. - feudalism.
                  1. K.A.S.
                    K.A.S. 2 March 2018 11: 18
                    +6
                    Well, firstly, I'm really smart at parenting! The apartment to change the meters to put. . With neighbors, a question to discuss about individual heating to do - is it not fate?
                    it was the same situation my parents lived in treshki, they also paid 6-7 thousand. lived alone. only I registered. soon they were sick of it. mother spoke. we don’t need such a big apartment, we live in, we pay for air. sold to another family. This family apartment is satisfied with the rent suits.
                    1. Sofa General
                      Sofa General 2 March 2018 15: 05
                      +8
                      CAS you are a theorist, completely divorced from life.
                    2. Alber
                      Alber 2 March 2018 15: 10
                      +4
                      Quote: K.A.S.
                      Well, firstly, I'm really smart at parenting! The apartment to change the meters to put. . With neighbors, a question to discuss about individual heating to do - is it not fate?
                      it was the same situation my parents lived in treshki, they also paid 6-7 thousand. lived alone. only I registered. soon they were sick of it. mother spoke. we don’t need such a big apartment, we live in, we pay for air. sold to another family. This family apartment is satisfied with the rent suits.

                      He’s married, have children?
                      and then all "mom said, parents ...."
                      1. K.A.S.
                        K.A.S. 2 March 2018 18: 55
                        +3
                        I have one, but my opponent has no children, they grew up and live in another city! most likely my peers are his words there a ticket showed, four were registered (where will I go to children, what should they live without a residence permit? They are renting housing in the regional center, we have no work ... and of course it is necessary to change the housing, who will register there?
                        that is, he pays for the air and is outraged that much!
                        But it’s good to remember mom and parents. because it shows that a person maintains a relationship with them!
                    3. Stas157
                      Stas157 2 March 2018 15: 49
                      +13
                      Quote: K.A.S.
                      Well, firstly, I'm really smart at parenting! Changing an apartment ... ... is this not fate?

                      To reduce the fee for a communal apartment to change ?? Do you need to change your country of residence? Really smart! Is it too radical? Are you by any chance, not an admirer, of that Frenchman who believed that the best way to get rid of dandruff is the guillotine?
                      That just do not come up with confusion to justify any dirty trick of the ruling regime.
                      1. K.A.S.
                        K.A.S. 2 March 2018 19: 00
                        +3
                        There is a simple way: live within our means, and not try to pull an owl on the globe!
                        whom scoops do not blame for their problems: only not themselves! The dirty trick of the regime is that a person does not live by means of
                      2. Stas157
                        Stas157 2 March 2018 22: 14
                        +8
                        Quote: K.A.S.
                        whom scoops do not blame for their problems: only not themselves! The dirty trick of the regime is that a person does not live by means of

                        Of course, the traitors think so, the people are to blame for all the problems, and Solntseky is to blame for the achievements. According to the means, only oligarchs and officials live in Russia, and those 20-30 million who live below the poverty line live on! Did I understand you correctly?
                  2. Serhiodjan
                    Serhiodjan 6 March 2018 12: 31
                    0
                    You yourself just said that the children live separately. The next troll and that’s all :) it pierced and didn’t notice itself. No work? For some reason, everyone I know work has; ₽ there is no campaign for the trolls, well, and even a layer of whiners - drunks to whom everyone should and who do not want to accept reality
              2. woron333444
                woron333444 3 March 2018 12: 45
                0
                Andrey Yuryevich Spelled out in the fourth, I pay from 2500 to 3000r per month. Come to our Altai. A better way to a private house. And the garden is nearby, and the garage and neighbors are not heard from behind the wall.
          2. Clumsy
            Clumsy 6 March 2018 09: 36
            0
            Well, I don’t know how you worked, my aunt came to visit me, she has more than 20 thousand pensions, she says enough.
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 2 March 2018 11: 11
          +15
          Quote: K.A.S.
          yes Crimea available. You can rest for 80-100 families!
          Ahah. Yes, for such grandmas it is better to fly to Vietnam or Cambodia. The climate is tropical, beaches and the sea will fly away, service is 10 times better, and prices are low.
          1. K.A.S.
            K.A.S. 2 March 2018 11: 38
            +3
            Is it for 3-4 people to Cambodia or Vietnam for 80-100 thousand for ten twelve days? cool. did not know.
            Enough for Turkey praying, where will you go?
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 2 March 2018 12: 21
              +5
              Quote: K.A.S.
              it’s for 3-4 people in Cambodia or Vietnam for 80-100 thousand for ten twelve days
              Easy, money will only take away plane tickets. Inside the country, everything is very cheap.
              Quote: K.A.S.
              Enough for Turkey praying, where will you go?
              It’s not in Turkey itself, it can be said about any resort country. I can’t understand if someone bothers you to go outside the hotel and ride around the city and its surroundings?
              1. K.A.S.
                K.A.S. 2 March 2018 12: 45
                +2
                stop uploading about 100000 to Cambodia in 4 people for 10 days.
                prices from 80 thousand, for 2 people for 5 nights.
                Neighborhood in Crimea at a speed I will ride this entire peninsula
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 2 March 2018 13: 31
                  +6
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  stop uploading about 100000 to Cambodia in 4 people for 10 days.
                  We open Booking.com and see that even in the center of Phnom Penh a week-long rest in a 4 * hotel with a pool costs an average of 13-20k rubles for two (I watched the month of May). In small cities, the sea is even cheaper. Prices are low, for 200-300 bucks it is quite possible to live for more than one week. Sightseeing is better to ride on their own to watch, since the Internet is full of information. And on the spot you can always find a guide for inexpensive.
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  prices from 80 thousand, for 2 people for 5 nights.
                  Link to me, link. 80k is the price of a trip to developed countries like South Korea and Japan. Southeast Asian countries are much cheaper. Unless, of course, you are planning to go for six months.
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  Neighborhood in Crimea at a speed I will ride this entire peninsula
                  You won’t go round the peninsula in a week.
                  1. K.A.S.
                    K.A.S. 2 March 2018 14: 16
                    +2
                    https://www.1001tur.ru/kambodzha/tury/days_14/
                    http://www.kudaexat.ru/country/cambodia/tour
                    https://saletur.ru/Камбоджа/
                    and thanks for the information for consideration
                    1. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 2 March 2018 15: 02
                      +2
                      If I understand correctly, then offers are offered from travel agencies. It is quite possible to fly to the countries of Southeast Asia independently, without paying extra to our hucksters. You are looking for cheap tickets from Aeroflot or S7, book your own hotel at this time in Bucking and fly. There is a chance to save some money. And most importantly, you will not run there for a guide, but to manage your time yourself for your own pleasure. You can rent a bike or a moped and ride anywhere.
                      1. Maksus
                        Maksus 2 March 2018 22: 59
                        0
                        Villa in Tenerife for a week - 100 euros, only a hundred. Flight for two - 45 round-trip, 500 Euro for a week for two - this is dofiga. Here you have 100 thousand. And yes, I forgot about renting a car - 80 euros per week, during which time even a gas tank was not burned. Prices for fall 2017.
                2. Alber
                  Alber 2 March 2018 15: 12
                  0
                  Quote: K.A.S.
                  Neighborhood in Crimea at a speed I will ride this entire peninsula


                  On skates?
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 2 March 2018 12: 19
            +1
            Chukotka is more exotic

            in 18 g the transition period for the Crimea + bridge ends

            everything will change and people dr will come
        3. Greenwood
          Greenwood 2 March 2018 11: 11
          +5
          Quote: K.A.S.
          and better than any Turkey, because unlike Turkey you don’t sit on the reservation
          Hmm, what's the problem of getting out of the reservation?
        4. Horon
          Horon 2 March 2018 13: 57
          +2
          Depends on the number of people. I had a good rest for 150, with which I went in five and half of this amount was eaten by the road. Rested actively, ate in cafes and canteens.
        5. captain
          captain 2 March 2018 18: 01
          +3
          The worst thing is that the officials were not changed during the accession. All shit comes from this.
          1. Don
            Don 2 March 2018 22: 47
            +1
            Quote: captain
            The worst thing is that the officials were not changed during the accession. All shit comes from this.

            Wow what a clean found belay You do not happen to be an Aryan?
        6. dnestr74
          dnestr74 5 March 2018 09: 20
          +1
          Yes, FIG needs Crimea for 100 TR, and if you fly from the Urals? For this money, I will sail for three weeks in the Red Sea, moreover, by samturism.
        7. Maverick1812
          Maverick1812 6 March 2018 13: 22
          +1
          Everyone has a different vacation! That's only 80-100 thousand in Derbent all summer you can live! The sea is cleaner, the prices are lower, the service is present, again cognacs, barbecue .... and in Crimea redneck at every step. That in other things and officials demonstrate. The country has changed, and bureaucrats with ukrovsky habits remained at the feeding trough.
    2. Vend
      Vend 2 March 2018 08: 42
      +3
      Cadres decide everything. Finding a sensible minister who will not think of a warm chair, but of business is not so easy.
      1. RomanS
        RomanS 2 March 2018 16: 12
        +2
        First, a specialist must be found, then persuaded to leave. And last but not least, how to start working in a new place. If a person is “nobody” (doesn’t know him) and calling him “no way” (there are many who want to). Here the nineties are not over yet ...
    3. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 2 March 2018 09: 32
      +16
      Those who do not have enough to rest in the Crimea, go to Spain.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 10: 51
        +8
        Quote: forty-eighth
        Those who do not have enough to rest in the Crimea, go to Spain.

        and the "foreign car" is kept by those who are not able to contain the "top ten" ....
      2. woron333444
        woron333444 3 March 2018 12: 48
        0
        forty-eighth Do you mean Grudinin?
    4. Baloo
      Baloo 3 March 2018 21: 18
      +1
      Quote: Esoteric
      Our Crimea will increase the availability of leisure in it for most Russians and an acceptable price-quality-service ratio ...

      People say the same thing when they discuss Crimea, Sochi or Turkey.
    5. Semen1972
      Semen1972 6 March 2018 13: 00
      0
      Quote: Esoteric
      Our Crimea will increase the availability of leisure in it for most Russians and an acceptable price-quality-service ratio ...

      Judging by the number of tourists, the service and the price are level! Nothing needs to be changed, lower prices will lead to overpopulation, traffic jams, deficits and other inconveniences. Prices need to be smoothly raised ... this is not ordinary, but an elite vacation in a historical place. A trip there must be earned or bought for a lot of money! Otherwise, value is lost. The law of the market.
  2. Snail N9
    Snail N9 2 March 2018 06: 57
    +20
    Crimea is now part of Russia and the mess there is now the same as in Russia — officials are busy with their (precisely their) business, the people themselves are forced to organize and survive. But for now. Time will pass, the people will fix everything themselves, through the “stump deck”, but they will establish tourism and business, and so on, and then the officials will wake up and say: “And so you have already done everything, everything has been established and organized, now our turn has come we’ll start cutting, strangling you with taxes and various exactions. "
  3. Ham
    Ham 2 March 2018 07: 00
    +17
    I can write about my region - "who will raise the Orenburg province?"
    otherwise we are like second cousins ​​and everything is fine here
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 2 March 2018 07: 24
      +8
      Quote: Ham
      otherwise we are like second cousins ​​and everything is fine here

      And here in Kuzbass - ... coal, but I would like there was gas ... belay If in the country the number of prisoners per 100 inhabitants (on average) is 000 people, then in the Kuzbass it is 468 !!! belay And in 2011 there were 22, which equaled 000/800 !!! fellow Tell me, you don’t know why during this time the population in the region decreased by more than 50 people, and what can the youth of Kuzbass learn if there are so many “mentors” in the region?
    2. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 2 March 2018 09: 53
      +4
      - "who will raise the Orenburg province?"
      and most weakly. Putin forbids or mother laziness interferes?
      1. passing
        passing 2 March 2018 10: 39
        +6
        Quote: K.A.S.
        - "who will raise the Orenburg province?"
        and most weakly. Putin forbids or mother laziness interferes?

        Yes, such as you and interfere! Wring out the "newsstand" and feel like the middle class.
        And for the fact that no one is asking you, for the squeezed kiosk and not paying taxes, you praise the current government. Since, a mess in a country such as you are satisfied.
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 2 March 2018 10: 47
          +3
          Chatterbox you are the talker. something always hurts a bad dancer: someone will press a kiosk .. someone will not pay taxes. power is to blame, and the weakest kiosk back. pay taxes and change the power? to make sure that there wouldn’t be a mess in the country and that everything would suit you?
          1. passing
            passing 2 March 2018 10: 56
            +5
            and most weakly return the kiosk back. pay taxes and change the power?

            LLC, are you an anarchist? Or just a kid young?
            Do you feel like a master? Country? District? or just a kiosk?
            That's who the talker is, it's you. "Change of power" lol
            1. Alber
              Alber 2 March 2018 15: 15
              0
              Quote: passing
              passing Today, 10:56 ↑
              and most weakly return the kiosk back. pay taxes and change the power?
              LLC, are you an anarchist? Or just a kid young?

              ))) the second is obvious
            2. 82т11
              82т11 2 March 2018 17: 40
              +1
              Quote: K.A.S.
              Chatterbox you are the talker. something always hurts a bad dancer: someone will press a kiosk .. someone will not pay taxes. power is to blame, and the weakest kiosk back. pay taxes and change the power? to make sure that there wouldn’t be a mess in the country and that everything would suit you?


              He says the whole thing, if you do nothing you won’t get anything.

              The main thing here is to understand that people are to blame for many problems.

              Example "one friend decided to open a store, it didn’t work out. But he managed to transfer the land for the store to trade. And now he sends a" letter of happiness "with large amounts of tax to him and fines. They all tell him to go to the tax change the type of land use and he didn’t rest, like the last tax chief didn’t give him a business to open and now he won’t pay taxes for this plot.Well, who does he do better with this obstinacy and childish insult? "
              But now this acquaintance recalls this grudge against a ruined business (this was 15 years ago) and writes complaints about unfair tax claims!)
          2. Esoteric
            Esoteric 4 March 2018 06: 16
            +1
            Quote: K.A.S.
            power is to blame, and the weakest kiosk back.

            Return for two years conditionally? The authorities are not to blame, we are to blame for choosing such a system ...
      2. Sofa General
        Sofa General 2 March 2018 15: 12
        +9
        CAS
        I already wrote, I repeat.
        Organize jobs MANDATED by the state. Although now, under capitalism - you are starving, this is your problem.
        I specifically explain for you. Small business is a cafe, hairdresser, minor repairs of car wash household appliances ... How many jobs will you create there? 100 ?, 1000? 10000? - and the population is ABOVE half a million.
        Second moment. There are a huge number of people for whom creating your own is difficult. It’s just not their topic. They are ready to work in production.
        So, to create a turner production - how much does he need to work to buy a CNC turning and milling machine? And for the mass production of such machines, thousands are needed. But no one bothers you, though - organize. Buy, take loans from the bank, yes, do not forget about the white salary of at least 50 rubles to employees.
        And then sit, out of bounds, divorced from reality ... Do not erase your fingers on the keyboard.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 10: 52
      +2
      Quote: Ham
      otherwise we are like second cousins ​​and everything is fine here

      learn "Latin" ... and how will you go to the neighbors?
      1. Ham
        Ham 2 March 2018 12: 41
        +4
        yeah ... what do they do then? so far the "neighbors" are foolish to us ... so let these jesters have a headache for the Latin alphabet ... let them at least introduce cuneiform scripts on their own head
        if something was introduced in my native Uzbekistan back in 1993 ... still everyone writes in Cyrillic)))
  4. samarin1969
    samarin1969 2 March 2018 07: 13
    +14
    I live in Crimea, and not far from this Mangup. But the material of the article is extremely far from Crimeans. To create a worthy infrastructure, to make the land market transparent, taxable - this is enough to turn the region into a "donor" of the budget. And these "ministries of resorts and tourism", "forums" - it is better to reduce as unnecessary.
    The beauty of nature, the objects of history - this is a resource in the Crimea 1000 times more than the "emirates" ... We need order and infrastructure - AND NO MORE THAN ANYTHING!
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 2 March 2018 08: 39
      +6
      We need order and infrastructure - AND NO MORE THAN ANYTHING!

      Hmm ... Adolf said the same thing when he raised the Weinmar Republic ..... true, he added to this: ".... and defense."
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 2 March 2018 17: 24
        +1
        Quote: Snail N9
        . true, he added to this: ".... and protection."

        hi
        Well, the defense didn’t get up. Here is what TNI’s enmity writes about:
    2. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 2 March 2018 10: 02
      +3
      build a bridge people will go! Crimeans do not need to listen to this nonsense Turkey and other Egyptians, the Crimea has the advantage that, unlike T.E. And the fact that they whine about prices is understandable forge the iron without leaving the cash register. although I think that chain stores will cut food prices, and housing prices will be regulated by the people themselves, they will be different for all price categories!
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 2 March 2018 10: 25
        +11
        “They will build a bridge and go,” and turnstiles with fare payment in front of the bridge — do you have to “beat off” the construction site ... or do you think that travel to Crimea will be free?
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 2 March 2018 10: 35
          +3
          I think what needs to be done and will be paid, because you need not only to beat off the construction site. but also contain the bridge, the structure of the bridge and carry out further development of the project!
          freaked out freeloaders brought up in the faith of a communist freebie that everything is free !!! Nothing happens for free! if for free: it means someone else pays or underpay!
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 2 March 2018 10: 43
            +13
            freaked out freeloaders brought up in the faith of a communist freebie that everything is free !!! Nothing happens for free! if for free: it means someone else pays or underpay!


            Correctly! And to pay the fare, so 5 thousand one way, and the "Crimeans" free of charge, with special passes to discourage the desire to go berserk-beaten to beat the beaches and interfere with rest: the "right", "worthy" people. winked
            1. K.A.S.
              K.A.S. 2 March 2018 10: 50
              +4
              about 5 tons of nonsense I will not comment. I will ask the question: at whose expense do I need to maintain the bridge to repair it?
              I foresee your answer, it will be simple and not intricate: at the expense of the state, well, or is it even easier to take money from the rich?
              1. Snail N9
                Snail N9 2 March 2018 10: 57
                +6
                So I wrote about the "turnstile" -normal practice around the world. Do not like 5 thousand? Well, let it be 1 thousand, then there will be many "savages" - "rogue" - that is, there is a flea market everywhere, a lot of dirt, noise, -br-r-r-goodbye comfortable, relaxing holiday .... winked And something tells me that the money from the “turnstile” will go straight to someone’s pocket with the usual sweat, complaints about the need for “state assistance” in the maintenance of the “strategically important object for the state” ... wink
              2. 82т11
                82т11 2 March 2018 17: 49
                +2
                What do you argue I won’t fail, they will introduce payment then you will argue)
                But seriously, any infrastructure, and such a large one, should all the more be supported by taxes collected by the state from this territory.

                Therefore, to be honest, listening to the nonsense that officials bear about all kinds of resort fees is difficult. If you want to invest money on the development of local business, you just need to leave part of the income tax in the region and not send everything to Moscow. And then we saw how in Moscow they make sidewalks with heating and her mayor argues that Muscovites are the most working ((
                1. Snail N9
                  Snail N9 2 March 2018 18: 33
                  +3
                  If you want to invest money on the development of local business, you just need to leave part of the income tax in the region and not send everything to Moscow ...... And then we saw how sidewalks with heating are made in Moscow .......

                  But what about the "unparalleled" nuclear fuel rocket? .....
                  1. 82т11
                    82т11 4 March 2018 10: 08
                    +2
                    And where does the rocket? Let the rocket be built, but in Moscow you can make smaller heated sidewalks!
              3. johnik
                johnik 3 March 2018 08: 45
                0
                At the expense of Crimeans and their guests. And in general: it was necessary to collect money from them on the bridge, and let them then put the price tag on the fare
              4. karish
                karish 3 March 2018 19: 21
                0
                Quote: K.A.S.
                I’ll ask a question: at whose expense do I need to maintain a bridge to repair it? To protect pay salaries to security personnel?

                Let Assad pay?
                As compensation
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 2 March 2018 16: 17
            +6
            Quote: K.A.S.
            I think what needs to be done and will be paid, because you need not only to beat off the construction site. but also contain the bridge, the structure of the bridge and carry out further development of the project!
            freaked out freeloaders brought up in the faith of a communist freebie

            So freeloaders will count the money, and they will rush to Turkey or Thailand. And then you don’t have to shed tears that the season is again a failure in the Crimea. The bridge, of course, should be free! Ultimately, this will be repelled by increased Crimea attendance. No other way! If tourists put obstacles, so no one will go.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 2 March 2018 19: 21
              +3
              I would also add to all this the service and the level of infrastructure, which in Crimea, as well as in the whole post-Soviet space, is ill on both legs and even not quite close to Asian states, despite the fact that the price tag in the latter is usually lower.
          3. Alber
            Alber 3 March 2018 15: 26
            +1
            Quote: K.A.S.
            I think what needs to be done and will be paid, because you need not only to beat off the construction site. but also contain the bridge, the structure of the bridge and carry out further development of the project!
            freaked out freeloaders brought up in the faith of a communist freebie that everything is free !!! Nothing happens for free! if for free: it means someone else pays or underpay!

            Well, finally opened the face, the capitalist ...
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 2 March 2018 11: 23
        +2
        Quote: K.A.S.
        you don’t sit on the reservation, but at any moment you can pack up and go to any place of the Crimea.
        I can’t understand what is the problem in Turkey to ride a self-propelled vehicle around the country?
        1. 82т11
          82т11 2 March 2018 17: 55
          +2
          Not knowing the local language, customs, hanging around in a foreign country? And you are an extremal old man))
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 2 March 2018 19: 14
            +1
            Quote: 82т11
            Not knowing the local language, customs, hanging around in a foreign country? And you are an extremal old man))
            I lived in China and Japan just like that, riding and walking everywhere myself or with friends, without any ridiculous guides. What is extreme? Or are you getting abroad, afraid to be behind the guide? lol
            Just before the trip, study on the Internet information on travel methods, prices for public transport, taxis, download a city map. Nothing complicated. Well, there should be at least some kind of small-scale level of the English language. Locals may not speak it, but police or civil servants usually own it. Turkey is hardly very different from East Asian countries in this regard.
            1. Anti-Corr.
              Anti-Corr. 2 March 2018 19: 17
              0
              Quote: Greenwood
              I lived in China and Japan just like that, everywhere walking myself or with friends, without any ridiculous guides. What is extreme? Or are you getting abroad, afraid to be behind the guide?

              many need to drive, because the helmsman leads them by the handle)
            2. 82т11
              82т11 4 March 2018 10: 05
              0
              Not everyone knows English, both with us and with them. But there are different situations.
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood 4 March 2018 14: 12
                0
                Quote: 82т11
                Not everyone knows English
                Learn what I can say. A bunch of courses. In the 21st century, in the era of globalization and the developed Internet with social networks, it is embarrassing not to be able to communicate in English even with general phrases. Knowledge of foreign languages ​​broadens the mind, after all.
                Quote: 82т11
                But there are different situations.
                Certainly.
      3. ZVO
        ZVO 3 March 2018 22: 25
        +1
        Quote: K.A.S.
        build a bridge people will go! Crimeans do not need to listen to this nonsense Turkey and other Egyptians, the Crimea has the advantage that, unlike T.E., you are not sitting on a reservation, but at any moment you can pack up and go to any place of the Crimea.


        You or greasy a troll, or simply a stubborn and belligerently illiterate person.
        And apparently, you have never been to Turkey or Egypt ...

        Equivalent rest conditions in Crimea are 3-4 times more expensive than Turkish.
        If you remove the coat in the yard with a shared street toilet with a hole. With a street kitchen for 20 houses with vacationers and without meals and flights - Crimea will be cheaper.

        Crimea - will never see such a sea as the Red Sea and such reefs. For there is no such sea with us.
        Crimea - it will never receive 20 types of meat, 20 different side dishes, 30 different names of fruits, 10 soups, 100 types of sweets and 10 types of ice cream - which are always present on the buffet menu in any normal Turkish 5 star hotel. For it is not so customary with us.

        Chain stores will never cut prices. You simply do not understand the trade and desires of creditors and shareholders. The average margin in Magnets and Pyaterochka is at least 100%. I know that for sure. And no one will reduce it.
        Housing prices (with a season of 3 months) - no one will cut it either - for snatching right away and heartily is the only possible option.
        it’s not customary for us to have a profit margin of 3% ...
        In general, you are either simply illiterate, or a troll that deliberately makes ordinary people a little nervous to see your fantasies and our realities.
        And such droplets create a wave of discontent.
        In general, you are another patriot idiot. Enemy of the country.
        1. K.A.S.
          K.A.S. 4 March 2018 10: 53
          0
          Yes, I am a Troll and a belligerently illiterate person !!! and didn’t go any further. therefore, people like me will do our best to make people like you unable to go to Turkey and bring money to the Crimea and it has developed !!! After all, people like you could help develop Turkey. Egypt? then you will develop Crimea. if you think that you can’t cope, don’t worry! we will help you.
          and in the Crimea will be
          Quote: ZVO
          20 types of meat, 20 different side dishes, 30 different names of fruits, 10 soups, 100 types of sweets and 10 types of ice cream - which are always present on the buffet menu in any normal Turkish 5 star hotel.

          And according to your statements about the wrapping in magnets (and what is expensive in mannitol?), It becomes clear that for people like me, not everything is lost! so that
          Wellcome that Crimea
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 4 March 2018 20: 15
            0
            Quote: K.A.S.

            And according to your statements about the wrapping in magnets (and what is expensive in mannitol?), It becomes clear that for people like me, not everything is lost! so that
            Wellcome that Crimea


            I just worked in this structure a little ... And I know the markup level ...

            To Crimea. I am I will not go.
            I will go better в Pitsundo or Soul.
            For there the sea is better and fewer people ...

            Will such an illiterate militant sofa warrior also close Abkhazia?
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 March 2018 10: 52
      +7
      Quote: samarin1969
      We need order and infrastructure - AND NO MORE THAN ANYTHING!

      conscience would still be there ....
    4. Horon
      Horon 2 March 2018 14: 12
      +6
      I did not like the authors' phrase about the desire of the Chinese to go to Crimea. They everywhere respond poorly about the Chinese as tourists: "they are thieves, tight-fisted and dirty." And here the authors worry about their absence in the Crimea.
    5. karish
      karish 3 March 2018 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      .Need order and infrastructure - AND MORE THAN NOTHING IS NEEDED!

      And just that?
      And with our Crimea - the order has not increased?
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 3 March 2018 19: 52
        0
        ... order and infrastructure - AND MORE THAN ANYTHING IS NOT NECESSARY! [/ quote]
        And just that?
        And with our Crimea - the order has not increased? [/ Quote]
        Increased ... but not enough. Migrants were driven away from the capital, but they remained. The work of various electronic services, compared with Ukraine, is a big plus. The work of numerous "services", sometimes too "numerous", is striking ... But, most importantly, our Crimea, the rest is secondary.
        1. karish
          karish 3 March 2018 19: 57
          0
          Quote: samarin1969
          Ribbed ... but not enough. Migrants were driven away from the capital, but they remained

          belay i.e ?

          Quote: samarin1969
          The work of numerous "services" is striking, sometimes too "numerous" ... But, most importantly, our Crimea, the rest is secondary.

          yes, this brother-in-law cousin told me 3 years ago. Our Crimea, our Crimea (he is from Simferopol) came to visit his daughter (they live in Haifa)
          But after three days, he himself arrives at a permanent place of residence (in Israel) and besides a full well ..., nothing was heard from him.
          That's about. request
          1. Crane operator Nahamkinson
            Crane operator Nahamkinson 3 March 2018 20: 14
            +1
            Now if all your %%%%%,
            move from Crimea to haifa.
            That would be a fairy tale !!!! wassat
            1. ZVO
              ZVO 3 March 2018 22: 28
              +2
              Quote: Crane Operator Nahamkinson
              Now if all your %%%%%,
              move from Crimea to haifa.
              That would be a fairy tale !!!! wassat


              when Abkhazians also spoke about Georgians.
              Georgians fled.
              Ukrov was taken out, everyone was taken out.
              Only Abkhazians. how did not know how to work. never learned.
              how was destroyed Abkhazia. and still stands.
              Nothing changed.
              In addition to the number of stolen cars, which every second in Abkhazia. From Russia stolen.
          2. samarin1969
            samarin1969 3 March 2018 21: 07
            0
            Well, if your relative is not a rice farmer or a railway worker ... then the problems are exceptional in his "f" ... wink ..
            .Medicine in Israel, say the cosmic level. But Russian is definitely better than Ukrainian.
  5. Alex66
    Alex66 2 March 2018 07: 46
    +13
    Crimea is beautiful, water is clean, food is a fairy tale. But I’ll go to Asia, it’s cheaper to fly there for 9 hours than in Crimea for 3 hours, I don’t know why.
  6. Vard
    Vard 2 March 2018 08: 01
    +15
    Not ... we’re better off to Turkey ... but in the Crimea the security forces didn’t take off prices ... We don’t get such money as servants of the people ...
  7. maxim1987
    maxim1987 2 March 2018 10: 45
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Esoteric
    Our Crimea will increase the availability of leisure in it for most Russians and an acceptable price-quality-service ratio ...

    right now I’ll give my pension for a communal apartment in February, and for the rest of the money, I’ll break into the Crimea ... affordable ...


    and in Nizhny Novgorod, we have reduced the cost of heat by 6% tongue tongue
    1. Opera
      Opera 2 March 2018 11: 46
      +1
      They will tell you now that you have no conscience!)))
  8. Opera
    Opera 2 March 2018 11: 49
    +2
    Quote: samarin1969
    The beauty of nature, the objects of history - this is a resource in the Crimea 1000 times more than the "emirates" ... We need order and infrastructure - AND NO MORE THAN ANYTHING!

    And there is still a problem - a considerable part of the bureaucracy of Ukrainian times. I lived in Crimea for a long time and I can say - this is really a problem.
  9. Curious
    Curious 2 March 2018 11: 56
    +1
    "Who will raise our Crimea?"
    What is the problem. Someone raised Turkish resorts to the Turks, Egyptian Egyptians, Dominican Dominicans, Spanish Spaniards, etc. etc. Here and turn to them.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 2 March 2018 13: 01
      +2
      Well, you are bent! After all, everything on this site is clear who should: Putin. Medvedev, and commentators will only indicate how to do what would be good !!!
      1. Curious
        Curious 2 March 2018 14: 45
        +1
        You want to say that the comrades you indicated have lifted the entire world resort business? No, they, of course, are powerful guys, but not so much. There are probably others.
  10. Galan
    Galan 2 March 2018 13: 49
    +4
    Thought this year to go to the Crimea. He began to take an interest in the situation, conditions, in general, collected information about life in the Crimea. In general, I was born and raised in Makeevka, Donetsk region, studied in Nikolaev shipbuilding. In general, I am familiar with the region. But the desire disappears, it really smells there, it doesn’t even smell, but it stinks of Ukraine, this is confirmed by the situation in the Ministry of Resorts and Tourism, the same situation in other executive bodies. For 25 years of the occupation of Crimea ukraine, the Ukrainian mentality has taken root there, both among local politicians and at the household level, everything to itself, everything to its “khatynka”. This is all confirmed by a series of scandals in the Crimean government over the past couple of years. No, I’ll wait a couple of years to go there until the spirit of Great Ukriya disappears.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 2 March 2018 16: 33
      +3
      Quote: galan
      For 25 years of the occupation of Crimea ukrami

      They told the locals that they were occupiers?
  11. turbris
    turbris 2 March 2018 16: 43
    +2
    It is necessary to change the mentality of the inhabitants of the Crimea - an established tradition of snatching holidaymakers to the maximum during the summer season, and even though the grass does not grow there, it does not allow Crimea to develop. Why do Crimeans work if you can just provide yourself a comfortable life the rest of the time simply by passing the living space? What industry is there, but do they need it? That's why even trolleybus drivers are not enough, just nobody wants to work, why? Crimea will develop when people from deep Russia come to work there, and this must be done now, while the authorities, on the contrary, obstruct the displaced people. We must not hesitate to tax numerous private hotels so that renting out is no longer profitable, otherwise no one will work in Crimea, because they are already fine, the season has passed and we will be preparing for the next.
    1. Curious
      Curious 2 March 2018 18: 31
      +4
      That's right, all the inhabitants of Crimea to resettle on the southern coast of the Kara Sea, or the Laptev Sea. To think before doing something.
      This is really a man of state mind.
      1. turbris
        turbris 2 March 2018 18: 46
        +1
        Quote: Curious
        That's right, all the inhabitants of Crimea to resettle on the southern coast of the Kara Sea, or the Laptev Sea. To think before doing something.

        Nobody offers to relocate, there is no need to “be clever”, but it is necessary to change the consumer mentality, otherwise there can be no talk of any development.
        1. Curious
          Curious 2 March 2018 19: 10
          +3
          But where can I get clever, I listen to the revelations.
          "Crimea will develop when people from deep Russia come to work there and this must be done now ..."
          Where will he work? Where to live? Whom to work? Or in deep Russia people are burdened with capital, which they seek to invest in the development of the Crimean industry and infrastructure?
          Well, about the change in consumer mentality, this is generally a pearl.
    2. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 2 March 2018 21: 24
      +6
      "Why do Crimeans work if you can just provide yourself a comfortable life the rest of the time by renting a living space? What industry is there, but what do they need it for?"
      But in this place I strongly disagree with you. This is a stamp that pops up everywhere you can people far from the Crimea and not knowing what is really happening here. To explain all this to me is not enough time, and for this I need to write an article.
  12. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 2 March 2018 17: 01
    +4
    Crimea now, this is Russia 1998, maybe 2002 model. The peninsula will have to go a difficult way in a short time. In my opinion, Crimeans are not ready for such a jump (Sevastopol will pull, maybe even Kerch right now, but no more).
    The crest approach will disappear in fifteen, twenty or more years.
    But, I must report to you, it's worth it.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 March 2018 19: 26
      +5
      Quote: Gnefredov
      may 2002 sample
      It’s even become interesting to me, but how do you think Russia 2002 differs from Russia 2018? How much has changed? Putin has not changed. What then was the president, what now. lol Stability!
  13. 1536
    1536 2 March 2018 17: 08
    +3
    With tourism in Russia everywhere tight. Both for youth and for pensioners. There aren’t enough hotels, the private sector is uncomfortable and even more expensive, problems with food, parking for those involved in car tourism, security, entertainment, etc. And Crimea is no exception. Only there, apparently, the past also affects. Tourism issues need to be addressed at the Government level, and here it’s a matter of seams, of course, people don’t get their hands on everything ... Because young people don’t go into the recreational business, he believes that it’s dangerous, because it belongs to "unknown" to whom. And money, what is money? Those same young people, for example, do not skimp on Thailand and Vietnam, which means they will go to our penises when they consider that the goal justifies the means, and the memories of the rest do not come down to the questions of studying a penny or criminal code.
    1. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 2 March 2018 17: 16
      0
      drinks
      In general, problems were correctly identified.
  14. LASVEGAS
    LASVEGAS 2 March 2018 17: 34
    +1
    Quote: Esoteric
    Our Crimea will increase the availability of leisure in it for most Russians and an acceptable price-quality-service ratio ...

    Not funny. And it’s not true - Crimea is very expensive for recreation. If anything, I live in Sevastopol.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 2 March 2018 21: 12
      +3
      But Sevastopol itself is an expensive city if that. Apparently, the overpayment for the brand. Why should everyone equal him?
  15. Sewer krainiy
    Sewer krainiy 2 March 2018 18: 08
    0
    Quote: Snail N9
    so 5 thousand one way,

    So it’s for entry .... and for departure it’s all 30. If you want to leave, you’ll pay where you will go ... wink laughing
  16. turbris
    turbris 2 March 2018 19: 29
    +1
    Quote: Curious
    Where will he work? Where to live? Whom to work? Or in deep Russia people are burdened with capital, which they seek to invest in the development of the Crimean industry and infrastructure?

    In order to have where to work and where to live, it is necessary to launch industry and build housing, and who will do it? Something is not visible for those wishing to work, even now not all vacancies are filled and there are no queues at the labor exchange, why? Yes, because young people are doing the same thing - they serve customers in private hotels at the height of the season, and then they wait in the bars for the start of the new season and it suits everyone - that’s the mentality. I also understand the pensioners who rent housing to receive an increase in their pension, but for young people it’s not a job, but a complete disintegration, and this is what you need to think about, and there are plenty of opportunities in the Crimea. I see nothing but wine, I don’t see anything Crimean in Russia anymore, is there nothing grown there anymore?
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 2 March 2018 21: 00
      +6
      There is no water, my friend. Reported four years ago, Ukraine blocked the channel. In the summer, up to forty-five degrees in the yard happens. What will you grow up in such conditions?
      1. Curious
        Curious 2 March 2018 22: 00
        +5
        Yes, this is a person from the sofa broadcasting theories. Typically, such theorists are heavier than their own scribble did not take anything in their hands, but they know how, what and where to do what.
  17. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 2 March 2018 20: 55
    +2
    What happened?! I am a witness. While I was at work, they blew the Crimea ?! It can't be like that. Did they report to Comrade Aksyonov? Tomorrow he dismisses all the villains, and even then closes. He is stern muscine.
  18. Brushing
    Brushing 3 March 2018 11: 12
    +4
    Crimea was interesting when it was not expensive in terms of accommodation and transport accessibility !!!
    They will build a bridge - everything will work, but for now, just wait and endure .... as I understand it, every minister of tourism is trying to stupidly wait for the completion of construction, and they demand the impossible from him here and now ....)))
    + It is necessary to break the soviet mentality of local residents who are accustomed to freebies at minimal cost ....
    In the same Krasnodar Territory, the competition is becoming insane and the people slowly but surely began to fight for the client, improving the quality of the services offered ... and the Crimea has been in conservation for 23 years, slowly and steadily dragging on mold, since the Ukrainians only taunted him and developed they didn’t want .... who is richer - Turkey, and the private sector was quite happy with a hawk with his havchik .... and the social feed that fed in the offseason - died ....

    Patience, good luck and prosperity to Crimeans !!! But remember - now fucking capitalism and what kind of competition .... WORK ABOUT YOURSELF !!! The service sector is the ability to cater to the client, which is to the west, and your bread ....)))
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 3 March 2018 19: 11
      +4
      Thanks for the kind words of course. But there is one thing but! I'm tired of writing this already. Have you seen Crimea on the map? If you saw this ... You must understand that most of them live completely not at the expense of tourists! Namely, due to industry and agriculture. Which are not in good shape to this day for various reasons. And these reasons should be discussed in reality.
  19. turbris
    turbris 3 March 2018 11: 30
    0
    Quote: Curious
    Yes, this is a person from the sofa broadcasting theories.

    Well, you slipped into insults, and after all it seems to be a decent person, I don’t say that I know all the problems of Crimea. Yes, from the couch, I certainly gave you some not very pleasant conclusions, it’s an analysis of some of the people’s statements on the network, but they have a right to be and there is such a problem - there aren’t enough hands, if I'm wrong, I apologize in advance.
    1. Curious
      Curious 3 March 2018 13: 54
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      Two questions.
      1. What was the insult? I didn’t accurately indicate the heaviest item you lifted?
      2. How can your conclusions be unpleasant to me?
  20. iouris
    iouris 3 March 2018 12: 44
    0
    Crimea is not needed for rest. More precisely needed, but few people. As a place of military service, Crimea is not bad.
  21. worms
    worms 3 March 2018 18: 57
    0
    why think or work ?? Russia will either decide what to do with tourists, or just give money so that they don’t stretch their legs ... Russia MUST and MANDATORY ... and if something goes wrong we can vote repeat for some reason, it seems to me that such logic prevails among the average Crimean bureaucrats .... in general, Sumerian logic ... lol
  22. fa811147
    fa811147 3 March 2018 22: 43
    +4
    I pay my earned money in order to relax, for good service. The choice in the world is huge, prices are many times lower than in Crimea. Why look for poor service, proud and unapproachable staff, dubious food, sucked-out excursions? I am satisfied with a completely different level and real prices. Why pay a lot for the bad, when you can do little and for the good. Simple and logical. By the way, there is a question: "Where does the Crimean leadership spend its holidays? *
  23. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 4 March 2018 06: 00
    +2
    Where did the Black Sea “resorts” get such wild prices? They shoot themselves in the leg! Why don’t I have Crimea or Sochi? Eight pensions per week? I have a good garden in Siberia! And the prices in stores are half as much!
    "And where is our head of the transport department?" In the sense of the antitrust committee?
    Corrupt ad infinitum!
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 4 March 2018 18: 13
      +1
      Patch so many errors in spelling? Where in Siberia are the prices in the shops of the town of Primorsky known, for example? ...
      1. ZVO
        ZVO 4 March 2018 20: 28
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        Quote: Benzorez
        Patch so many errors in spelling? Where in Siberia are the prices in the shops of the town of Primorsky known, for example? ...


        I won’t say about mistakes - not the author ...

        But everything is very well known about prices.
        for example, reviews of vacationers.
        There are many forums on which vacationers post the full alignment of one. how, where and how much did they rest.
        What they saw. what they bought. what kind of money.
        And what eventually came of it.

        If you find a couple of weeks and go through sites like "Vinsky Forum". "Autotravel", etc. then you will probably learn to correctly understand the rest financially.
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 6 March 2018 20: 55
          +1
          I do not go in for tourism. I do factory work. I carry out a defense order. I leave at seven in the morning, I arrive at eight in the evening. Therefore, I personally do not give a damn about how high the bell tower rises. Our part of the island, in general, has never hit very hard on tourism. There were other development priorities. Suddenly, out of nowhere, where is the service level of Antalya what a thread ?! Yes, right there will be tomorrow. If you send money. Otherwise, where does the service come from? Out of the air?
          Somewhere they asked where the leadership is resting? And nowhere! Comrade Aksyonov does not go on vacation for four years. By the way, I also do not remember when he was with me. What rest at all ?! It is necessary to work, to raise the country. We will rest in the next life. Tired they are unbearably see ...
          1. ZVO
            ZVO 6 March 2018 21: 41
            +1
            Quote: Benzorez
            Suddenly, out of nowhere, where is the service level of Antalya what a thread ?! Yes, right there will be tomorrow. If you send money. Otherwise, where does the service come from? Out of the air?


            And where did he get up in Antalya?
            State chtoli all paid?
            Believe me, there is a state participation share of less than 0.01% percent ...
            But thousands of hotels have been built. Hundreds of thousands of employees are trained and trained.
            Millions work to provide these hotels from tomato growers, to manufacturers of washing powder and carriers of liquefied gas.
            Etc.

            the most important thing is that people wanted to work ... For millions just like that, by government order - you can’t convince ...
            It's all about the people - not the state.
            1. Petrol cutter
              Petrol cutter 8 March 2018 19: 04
              +1
              Well, okay. In Crimea, shit, not people. Anyway, we are non-Russians. This is all I have already heard. Sadly from this gentlemen. Crimea played all-in. And he remained all dogen. For some reason ...
              1. karish
                karish 8 March 2018 19: 16
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                Quote: Benzorez
                Well, okay. In Crimea, shit, not people.

                No, normal people, but especially likes to work
                Quote: Benzorez
                .Krym played all-in

                why did you play?
                Quote: Benzorez
                And he remained all dogen. For some reason ...

                request
                1. Petrol cutter
                  Petrol cutter 8 March 2018 19: 46
                  +1
                  Apparently have to explain in detail.
                  Whether you see us, we don’t really like to work. How did you decide so ?! Where did such conclusions come from? From bazaars, taxi drivers at train stations ?! So these are corrupt idlers. What do you judge by their conclusions? What on the mainland are taxi drivers altruists directly? They stand straight and say, let me bring you my dear for free.
                  We are going further. Crimea, unlike any Donetsk, was built for two reasons, there were already troops. In addition to transfer specialists there was no problem. Then Crimea voted as needed. This is not enough for you to assume. RF Crimea is needed purely from geopolitics. This is no one hides. And where do you order two lemons of the people ?! And they also want to eat, and so that they have a Megaphone with Sberbank! ...
                  1. karish
                    karish 8 March 2018 19: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: Benzorez
                    Whether we work, we don’t really like. How did you decide that?

                    I was in Crimea 5 years ago, I doubt that a lot has changed.
                    Quote: Benzorez
                    Where did such conclusions come from? From bazaars, taxi drivers at train stations ?! So these are corrupt idlers.

                    No, I still remember how at the tire fitting I was asked to remove the punctured wheel myself.
                    Quote: Benzorez
                    . Crimea, unlike Donetsk all

                    belay
                    Quote: Benzorez
                    RF Crimea is needed purely from geopolitics. This is no one hides.

                    Yes, and before it was no secret.
                    Quote: Benzorez
                    And where do you order two lemons of the people ?! And they also want to eat, and so that they have a Megaphone with Sberbank! ...

                    You yourself wanted this, why cry then?
                    1. Petrol cutter
                      Petrol cutter 8 March 2018 20: 07
                      +1
                      And who is crying? I am pleased with my choice. True Russians are crying. Someone has the wrong cheese, then Crimea consumed everyone. May bi need to go stupidly work to go? It is hard and unpleasant. There you can get tired.
                      Speaking of nuts. Why from a hero city ?! This is classified information.
  24. Serhiodjan
    Serhiodjan 6 March 2018 00: 29
    +1
    I am writing now from the Crimea from a hotel near Simferopol near the airport, I spent the whole day here on a business trip today, I want to share my impressions. Before that I was here in 2011 and at sea.
    1. First and foremost, I have the feeling that I got into the time machine and returned 20 years ago - complete devastation everywhere, civilization has simply not reached here, can not be compared with other regions in the central part of the country where I was recently, the Internet is bad, wild taxi drivers, disgusting hotels, Yandex.Taxi does not work ....
    2. Roads, locals say that they are actually made in another part of Crimea, but where I traveled and this Simferopol-Yevpatoriya is just quiet horror, the most crippled road in the Moscow Region is much simply incomparably better than this highway.
    3. People, let’s say so .... that’s how we were only 15-20 years ago, good fun, everywhere we are trying to find our own profit, honesty is not held in high esteem, no one can be trusted.
    Of course, it is clear that all this is the result of the rule of Ukraine and recently they are beginning to do something, but in the minds of devastation, to grab and run away is the main thing for the local authorities ....
    I don’t even know, I used to think that if the east of Ukraine joins the Russian Federation, it will be good now I doubt it, it’s not a fact that we will pull a 10-fold Crimea with this inertia of minds and a full bottom in the economy.
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 6 March 2018 13: 29
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      you would have a separate article with photos !!!! It is necessary!!! let everyone read and Crimeans and future tourists !!!! it will help everyone !!!!
      What do you want.
      when I communicate with immigrants from Ukraine, I catch myself thinking that we were only 25 years ago !!!!
    2. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 6 March 2018 21: 25
      +1
      You are being forcibly collected somewhere and sent under the escort of machine gunners to the island ?! !! This is not a website. Why write this canoe here? You do not like in the Crimea, why are you coming here? Sit at home and write in your local newspaper notes about problems with hot water supply, high mortgage interest, low pension, etc.
      Four unhappy years have passed! Nothing has been done yet — why isn’t Las Vegas here so far ?! Where are the aircraft carriers ?!
      Is it okay that I get every nut from St. Petersburg with a car, then they take me with a ferry? How much will such a nut cost? But I didn’t decide so. This is where they decided. But nothing that people have nowhere to work, but where there is a salary of 12-15 thousand rubles. And the prices you say are sky-high. And the price is what it is for you, what is the same for me. You’ve arrived, you’ve left, and we are trying to live here. And we are not writing anything libelous towards Russia. We have some kind of conscience.
      1. karish
        karish 6 March 2018 21: 41
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        Quote: Benzorez
        Is it okay that I get every nut from St. Petersburg with a car, then they take me with a ferry?

        Why from St. Petersburg?
        Quote: Benzorez
        But nothing that people have nowhere to work, but where there is a salary of 12-15 thousand rubles.

        Well, the whole country from behind the Crimea sits under sanctions and many suffer the same.
        It can be said because of you.
        But don't cry

        Quote: Benzorez
        And the price is what it is for you, what is the same for me. You’ve arrived, you’ve left, and we are trying to live here.

        And what was better in Ukraine?
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 8 March 2018 19: 11
          +1
          Should I answer as long or short?
          What country? Israel under sanctions because of me? This is nonsense !!!
          1. karish
            karish 8 March 2018 19: 23
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            Quote: Benzorez
            Should I answer as long or short?

            Long.
            the day before yesterday, a brother-in-law's brother-in-law came from Simferopol for permanent residence.
            He kept a parts store.
            Before Crimea, we had 5 employees, after which all communications were broken, and Russian chain stores came to Crimea.
            He was crushed, although his prices (as he says were lower) - in general, the result.
            2 days ago in Israel there were 2 more citizens (he and his wife).
            What struck him most (according to his story) was that from the moment he arrived and before leaving the airport (with a new passport of an Israeli citizen, lifting 2.5 tons of bucks for the first month, paid for a taxi to the place where he had to go (Haifa) and Paid 2 SIM cards (for 3 months) - exactly 40 minutes have passed.
            As he said, in order to get a Russian passport in the Crimea, he ran around for almost 2 months.
            1. Petrol cutter
              Petrol cutter 8 March 2018 20: 38
              +2
              That's terrible. I don’t even know whether I should be happy for him or be upset ... I got everything "automatically." There are a lot of problems, but these are our small-town problems. And on a global scale, I always wanted to live in Russia. She-mother is as close as possible to me in spirit, and for her I am ready to die if necessary. Here I am such a principled reptile.
              1. Petrol cutter
                Petrol cutter 8 March 2018 21: 02
                +1
                "the day before yesterday came to permanent residence from Simferopol brother-in-law cousin."
                Honestly, I don’t understand who you have it to, but the loafer is probably the same.
                1. karish
                  karish 8 March 2018 21: 05
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                  Quote: Benzorez
                  Honestly, I don’t understand who you have it for.

                  Shurin - sister's husband. - arrived - his cousin
                  Quote: Benzorez
                  but apparently the loafer

                  You can’t live in Israel as a loafer.
                  Need to work .
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  25. Clumsy
    Clumsy 6 March 2018 09: 32
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    I would like to go to the Crimea, in particular Sevastopol, just do not understand how to get there, and how the cards work there, a boom to find out)))
    1. K.A.S.
      K.A.S. 6 March 2018 13: 39
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      don't know how to get there? I will tell! from Latvia you can generally by car! if you like traveling by car! and don’t say that far and long. my comrades from central Russia went fishing to Baikal in cars !!
      if you don’t like it by car, it’s by train or bus to Moscow, but it’s easy there! I don’t know through RB!