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New army superphone or new cut?

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The network has once again boiled over, although how else can one surprise a consumer of information today, if not a scandal?

“They're cashing in on the new“ super phone ”for the army!” “The“ new ”Russian army phone for the army for 2 000 dollars has a Chinese twin brother for 90 and so on.



And let's look at these nuances just with our eyes, without references to throwers.

It is probably worth starting with the fact that all this hype is complete nonsense and fiction, from the first word to the last.

Alas, but I will disappoint all lovers of shouting "hot": there is no "new" superphone for the army. Not at all. And there was no “Atlas” with either the number P-633M or the number P-663M.

Those who are crazy and fantasy copy-paste "hot" newsthey don’t even pay attention to the fact that there is one digit in the text and another one in the figure.

So far, the aforementioned FSUE “Scientific and Technical Center“ Atlas ”in Novosibirsk has both produced and has been producing ONE model of a special SMP-ATLAS / 2 cell phone.

New army superphone or new cut?


Yes, this model costs the army 115 thousand rubles. With a discount, because for its VIP subscribers, MegaFon offers a civilian version of a chiffon for 127 thousands.

Yes, they are made almost by hand and the period is worth - 4 of the month. And, in fact, where to rush, if about the same for registration of all papers, permits and registrations?

Yes, this phone is issued. Military personnel of higher command, from the commander of the brigade and above. Moreover, we even saw such a phone in action. One colonel at ARMY-2017, with the help of just such a telephone, requested permission to show us one product from the inside.

By the way, allowed.

And yes, about a hundred of them are produced every year. According to the state order. Why? And because more is not needed. Even taking into account write-offs, breakdowns and so on, we do not have so many colonels and generals who need such a phone.

"... with access to documents of the highest importance and secrecy ..."

And the meaning of the device is clear. Operational communication, no more. Where you can reach the cell tower. Where it is impossible, nobody canceled Zasa.

Why this idea and the roar of the entire Internet is hard to say. I will not indicate to whom the first one was fed this nonsense, but, unfortunately, the respected publication “pierced”.

So it remains only to ascertain the fact that the whole cry about the “next cut” at the Russian Defense Ministry is nothing more than a bluff and a provocation.

Apparently, the Argentine heroin still reached subscribers.

Summing up:

1. About the "Atlas" whether P-633M, or P-663M - fiction from beginning to end.

2. Naturally, about the Chinese twin brother for 6 thousand rubles - too.

3. Pro superspy in MO - also nonsense (11 million rubles. - This is ridiculous in itself).

Dear, you have been deceived, you can disperse.

Source: http://stcnet.ru/products_iid_17.htm.
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  1. Esoteric
    Esoteric 2 March 2018 06: 48
    +12
    Pure water cut ... yes If, of course, not - "manual work" ... belay lol repeat
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 March 2018 09: 53
      +6
      Manual assembly. All modern phones are similar in appearance - the photo in the article shows that they are not similar.
      The smaller the series, the more expensive the product.

      What can you say?
      1. passing
        passing 2 March 2018 11: 05
        +12
        Esoteric Today, 06:48 AM
        I drank pure water ... Unless, of course, "manual work" ...

        Gray Brother Today, 09:53 ↑ New
        Manual assembly. All modern phones are similar in appearance - the photo in the article shows that they are not similar.
        The smaller the series, the more expensive the product.
        What can you say?

        already had experience - the manufacture of breakthrough, super duper bracelets for detainees and convicts. And the cost was somewhere similar, somewhere 90-120 tyr. How praised the director of the GUF hi SYN
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 2 March 2018 13: 04
          +5
          Quote: passing
          How praised the directors of GUF SIN

          So what? This is a completely different area, but an iPhone for 90 sput. for some reason does not bother anyone.
          This director, by the way, where did it go?
          1. passing
            passing 2 March 2018 17: 23
            +5
            This director, by the way, where did it go?

            Oh no no no! winked such people need to be remembered. Mr. Reimer is serving a sentence. Surprisingly.
            As it were, then there were no telephones either. It remains only to hope for the best!
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 3 March 2018 11: 03
            +1
            They told the poor fellow. To the institution that he inspected. laughing But seriously, the price is incomprehensible.
        2. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 4 March 2018 04: 00
          +2
          Quote: passing
          already had experience - the manufacture of breakthrough, super duper bracelets for detainees and convicts. And the cost was somewhere similar, somewhere 90-120 tyr.

          And there was also a “breakthrough” b / w tablet alphabet from RUSNANO in the presentation of the red-hemp! And he was worth it!
      2. Justme
        Justme 7 March 2018 14: 13
        +1
        .. Manual assembly ...
        Now in Russia we have in a very large number of production lines for element size 0402. There are no problems with printed circuit boards of the 0.1 / 0.1 mm class, and in the access are 0.075 / 0.075 and HDI (High Density Interconnect) ... More recently, I have at times I worked in our company as a senior in contract manufacturing and I can say that the price seems excessive.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 March 2018 15: 28
      +5
      Yeah A spoon was found, but remained about the little garden. winked Vasiliev was also tried in vain. And under her boss, the Akurat was amnestied.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 2 March 2018 20: 37
        +8
        correctly condemned. there they defeated Serdyukov as an army. Yesterday, the Darkest showed the fruits of the cut.

        Or are you one of those who believe that everything became good only after the arrival of Shoigu?

        Have you been surprised a little with Crimea? Are you not happy with this either? Are you really worried about Russia?

        If, for example, you are writing from Georgia and you are the local patriot whose Russian Federation occupied the territory, then I will understand all your tearful posts and an indication in each of them of cuts, zrad or something like that. But absolutely no positive. Everything is bad. Everything is lost. Putin leaked.

        But if you position yourself as a "Patriot of the Russian Girl" - your posts do not understand me

        PS for whom are you going to vote on the 18th, if not secret?
        1. passing
          passing 3 March 2018 08: 29
          +6
          But if you position yourself as a "Patriot of the Russian Girl" - your posts do not understand me

          PS for whom are you going to vote on the 18th, if not secret?

          Are you this to me?
          From your post it is not clear what you wanted!
          I’ll answer just in case. Serdyukov a typical representative of the current government - mediocre, thieving, with the manners of the master.
          All developments of the times of the USSR, GDP does not hide it.
          I won’t go to the polls. The domestic GDP policy does not suit me, with the help of new weapons, he protects himself, his friends, etc., so that no one would stop them from getting rich. I bow to the Communist Party, but there is no confidence in them
          I’m probably still a patriot of Russia but not EP, GDP and government.
          1. Baby sitter
            Baby sitter 6 March 2018 14: 11
            0
            let's go for Sobchak! Freedom, complete freedom, will also be true with her ...
    3. Dimmedroll
      Dimmedroll 6 March 2018 19: 43
      0
      NOT at all, or you have proof, you can cut a little on 100 pieces.
  2. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 2 March 2018 07: 07
    +8
    argentine heroin
    Cocaine Roma, Cocaine! wink The drugs are completely different in effect, and cocaine is not physically addictive.
    Regarding the article, I will not be surprised that such a phone will really cost much more than its counterparts, because no one canceled the cut. request Let not 115 thousand rubles, but many times more expensive than classmates. hi
    P.S. By the way, the link is not working. Rather, the point at the end is superfluous.
    1. marline
      marline 2 March 2018 09: 27
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Regarding the article, I will not be surprised that such a phone will really cost much more than its counterparts, because no one canceled the cut. request Let not 115 thousand rubles, but many times more expensive than classmates. hi

      The novel is simply not aware that it is not Atlas alone, there are other manufacturers - but the operator is only Megaphone. Such classmates cost the same, for manual work wink And do not forget that this is still a confidential phone.
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 2 March 2018 17: 16
      +3
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      The drugs are completely different in effect, and cocaine is not physically addictive.

      ??? And drug addicts addicted to cocaine do not know
    3. woron333444
      woron333444 6 March 2018 14: 12
      0
      I had this Chinese P860 phone, but not for 6000, but for 12000. They presented it on occasion. Six months later, fell from 3 meters. He got his old motorbike, which is already 8 years old and where it just did not fall. Works.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 6 March 2018 17: 29
        0
        My Texet is shockproof and waterproof. I didn’t count once, I bathed him in an argument, and nothing. It works for a year and a half, costs 3700. The battery is huge for a button player - 3700 ampere hours. hi
  3. Falcond
    Falcond 2 March 2018 08: 01
    +8
    They’ve been using these phones for 2-3 years already ... and the scream has just been raised ...
    About the cut? We have all state purchases - it’s essentially cut ... the retail price tag is several times lower than the purchase price
    1. Ren
      Ren 2 March 2018 09: 06
      +4
      Quote: FalconD
      They’ve been using these phones for 2-3 years already ... and the scream has just been raised ...
      About the cut? We have all state purchases - it’s essentially cut ... the retail price tag is several times lower than the purchase price

      In this situation, retail is more expensive. These phones are used by many of the tops of large companies, only the hardware cryptoblock is different there (other encryption algorithms, or rather a much shorter key length). hi
  4. K.A.S.
    K.A.S. 2 March 2018 09: 04
    +5
    zadolbali commentators about cut !!! if any facts? Maybe show an estimate or what this phone consists of. whether the signal is encoded there and how. what kind of toys are there, and so on
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 March 2018 09: 49
      +5
      There are no facts, they simply repeat one after another like parrots in the thicket.
  5. Strashila
    Strashila 2 March 2018 09: 06
    +3
    In fact, if you study the essence of the matter ... then such phones with the same functions with the same Germans for the Bundeswehr cost about the same. Okay, the phone ... but for the full-fledged work, the telecom operator should have additional equipment ... how much is it protected from unauthorized access, because there are civilian experts ... they are not a weak link ... ???
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 2 March 2018 09: 24
      +2
      SORM is also with telecom operators. Hacking into such equipment without any signs of interference will not work. I think the situation with encryption equipment is similar.
      1. Ren
        Ren 2 March 2018 10: 40
        +8
        Quote: forty-eighth
        SORM is also with telecom operators. Hacking into such equipment without any signs of interference will not work. I think the situation with encryption equipment is similar.

        Regarding SORM on the operator’s networks, WAN links take traffic continuously and organize access to the channel with a 3-letter structure. Civilians will not do anything here, although the operator’s staff can easily view (technically) your content. laughing
        In this case, the operator has a license to transmit encrypted traffic, encryption itself is carried out at terminal subscriber terminals. Civilians can access the channel, but it will be encrypted, without knowledge of encryption algorithms access to the content is impossible hi
  6. Ural resident
    Ural resident 2 March 2018 10: 05
    +4
    I do not know how to judge by the appearance of the cut. The “box” may be the same, what is the difference how the buttons look, and the filling is a completely different device.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 March 2018 12: 00
    +4
    Even after an explanatory article, an amateur just ran out to criticize anyway, making out dozens of emoticons. And again with a cut.
  8. Galleon
    Galleon 2 March 2018 12: 17
    +1
    I support the author's sober and real look at this telephone question ... There is nothing more to add.
  9. Uncle Vanya Susanin
    Uncle Vanya Susanin 2 March 2018 14: 35
    +2
    Yes ! On “I Cried” there was so much screech about this! But there were also comments, with a photo, that the Atlas phone is completely different, someone deliberately threw in disinformation, and in principle it’s clear why!
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  11. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 3 March 2018 06: 33
    0
    If so expensive, then they pay well for the manufacture of specialists.
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 4 March 2018 12: 01
      +1
      well paid only to those who sell them to the army. Hard workers have nothing special from this
  12. Radikal
    Radikal 3 March 2018 10: 55
    +2
    Quote: Gray Brother
    There are no facts, they simply repeat one after another like parrots in the thicket.

    As a rule, facts appear in a year or two, and if there is a reason to punish some obstinate or non-shared official, and more often they don’t appear at all, or much later, with another “Manager” wink
  13. steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 March 2018 09: 44
    0
    And if this phone is stolen, but what is the capacity of the battery, and the connection is cellular or via satellite, or another ???? I still did not understand why such a price, and even if they are manually made!
  14. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 4 March 2018 09: 44
    0
    Quote: passing
    Esoteric Today, 06:48 AM
    I drank pure water ... Unless, of course, "manual work" ...

    Gray Brother Today, 09:53 ↑ New
    Manual assembly. All modern phones are similar in appearance - the photo in the article shows that they are not similar.
    The smaller the series, the more expensive the product.
    What can you say?

    already had experience - the manufacture of breakthrough, super duper bracelets for detainees and convicts. And the cost was somewhere similar, somewhere 90-120 tyr. How praised the director of the GUF hi SYN

    Well, this fsinovets was put for cutting
  15. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 4 March 2018 09: 44
    0
    And what kind of babos he can do from the bottom column:
    Coding
    Encryption
    Compression
    Cryptography
    Scrambling .. well, etc.
    And can they be given in rap with guaranteed preservation of its original functions repeat
    And if it’s real, then to whom and what matters, with what pribludy our army command exercises. This device looks like a piece of wood of the Nokia class ..., so they’re still alive in their arms - it’s not fashionable to shine through the eyes wassat
  16. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 4 March 2018 09: 47
    +1
    Quote: passing
    But if you position yourself as a "Patriot of the Russian Girl" - your posts do not understand me

    PS for whom are you going to vote on the 18th, if not secret?

    Are you this to me?
    From your post it is not clear what you wanted!
    I’ll answer just in case. Serdyukov a typical representative of the current government - mediocre, thieving, with the manners of the master.
    All developments of the times of the USSR, GDP does not hide it.
    I won’t go to the polls. The domestic GDP policy does not suit me, with the help of new weapons, he protects himself, his friends, etc., so that no one would stop them from getting rich. I bow to the Communist Party, but there is no confidence in them
    I’m probably still a patriot of Russia but not EP, GDP and government.

    Your speech resembles the outpouring of the deceased Madam Novodvorskaya
  17. Doliva63
    Doliva63 4 March 2018 16: 25
    +5
    When the Prime Minister has the nickname "iPhone", what phones the brigade commanders have, I think. laughing
  18. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 5 March 2018 06: 30
    0
    First: household and industrial performance are two different things. Those same Americans in enterprises, for example, prefer computers with proven-rechecked grandfather chips, naturally, dust-moisture-vibration-resistant, withstanding from -50 to + 80 and so on. Otherwise, bang! At the most interesting place, as happened with the "Protons" or GLONAS satellites on Chinese household components. The gap was in the military acceptance.
    And they forgot about the rejection of devices. Remember, earlier (1970s) only defective components were sold in radio stores? 5-10% went to the military. That’s the cost - 20-10 times more than a household.
  19. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 6 March 2018 11: 10
    +1
    Whatever is done in the country, everything is immediately poured with mud: cut. corruption is all bad all th .. but etc. That's exactly the feeling that there are two Russia: the real one and on the Internet and the media.